Which is Harder: Peace in the Mideast or Peace with Antifa?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six, sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, we've defeated Hamas, it's now Tom,
it's now time to defeat Antifa. Agreed, disagree? So let
me ask all of you. It is the Kooner country
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What I'm just curious, which is more difficult Peace in
the Middle East or peace with Antifa. Trump's done it,

(00:47):
He's broken. He's broken Hamas. It wasn't easy, but he
did it. Can he now break Antifa? So which is
more difficult? Peace in the Middle East or peace with Antifa?
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is in national Er. Caroline in Maine, Thanks for holding Caroline,
and welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's Caroline, Carolyn.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
My bad Carolyn go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Carolyn Jeff, I appreciate your passion, and I listened to
our WRK O when I was a kid. I'm calling
because you asked a question about so I hope you
will respectfully let me express my opinion and I'll be
open to yours. The reporting ANTIFA is actually an abbreviation
for anti fascist, which I seriously hope that most of

(02:13):
us are, and it's they're feverishly pro American. People that
are anti fascists are also pro American and nonviolent speech.
And I feel like, and it's all reporting, all right,
everyone that's reporting. We need to stop being so one sided.
When I was young, and I'm a retired nurse. When

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I was young, the reporters were held so accountable for
what they said that when they made a mistake or lied,
sometimes they lost their jobs for it. But what I
didn't hear your reporter mentioned is the EMT that was
held up in Chicago from bringing a patient to the hospital.
I'm a nurse, so I understand what the AMT person

(02:58):
was up against. Also, Minister that was with a pepper
bullet from the rooftop. I know it's unlawful to prohibit
the path of an ambulance. Literally, the people that were
there were dancing, it was It looked very nonviolent to me,
and I just think primarily selective reporting is wrong. So

(03:20):
I would love for you to report the whole story,
because I think the audience deserves that. I also think
that news reporters and talk shows have a moral obligation
to the listeners to prevent unbiased reporting and support peaceful
actions that encourage us to work together. I love your passion,
and thank you so much for that. And thank you

(03:40):
to Donald Trump for the ceasefire, thank you to the
Democrats for trying to protect healthcare, and thank you to
the Republicans for bringing deficits to the attention of Americans.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Thanks Carolyn.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Are you still there or did we lose Carolyn? No,
I'm here, Okay, Oh, Carolyn. I mean I agree with
much of what you said. I do think reporters should
be held accountable. If they lie, they should lose their jobs.
I completely agree with you on that many other things
as well. What I don't understand is you're saying Antifa

(04:12):
is pro American. Antifa stated goal I mean just literally,
it's in their Antifa handbook. It's their stated goal. Is
the violent overthrow of the American government. They want to
overthrow capitalism, they want to overthrow our constitution, they want
to overthrow our Bill of Rights. And you say Antifa

(04:35):
stands for anti fascism, You're right. And of course half
my family were wiped out by the Nazis. I have
no love for fascism. I hate it with every fiber
in my being. But the anti fascism that they refer
to is a Marxist terminology, meaning that everyone is either.
They divide the world into fascist anti fascist. The only

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anti fascists are the radical leftists. Everyone else is a fascist.
That's why, for example, for Antifa, all Republicans are fascists,
All Conservatives are fascists. Frankly, most moderate Democrats are fascists.
Donald Trump is a fascist. The police are fascists. So

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this is why if you look at their literature, if
you look at them, and you know on their websites,
if you look at their manifestos, they're clearly a violent
revolutionary Marxist group. That's what we have. Those were the people,
along with Black Lives Matter, literally the very same people

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who were burning, rioting, looting, vandalizing, murdering, maiming during the
so called Summer of Love of twenty twenty. So I'm
all for peace. I believe in peaceful protest and peaceful dialogue.

(06:06):
Antifa is the opposite of peace. Caroline. I want to
give you a chance to respond. I'm up against a heartbreak.
Please hang on if you want to hang on, I
will come right back to you. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
let's go right back to Carolyn in Maine. Carolyn, you

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were saying that Antifa, for the most part, is a
nonviolent group in many ways pro American. They're anti fascist.
We should all be anti fascist. I gave you my
thoughts and feelings about Antifa. I think they're a dangerous
domestic terrorist organization. They've been designated as such by President Trump.
They're running wild in Portland, they're running wild in Chicago,

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and now they need to be dismantled, cracked down upon,
and arrested.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
What say you, Carolyn, Well, Jess, I would love if
you could please share the website that you got that
information from, because I mean, I don't know any Democrats
that would support any of the things that you said
Antifa supports. I mean I just don't know any But
if there's the groups out there that are like that,
we should all be against them. Violence is wrong, period

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in a snow way to be a good American.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, the mayor of Portland's a Democrat, and he has
no problem with Antifa. He refuses to condemn Antifa. Governor
Kotik of Oregon, another Democrat, has no problem with Antifa
and is coddling Antifa. I mean, I could go on
and on. I mean, these the ones that are obstructing ICE,

(07:47):
the ones that are attacking ICE agents, both here in
Boston or in New York, or in California and Los Angeles.
They're for the most part, these are Antifa thugs, or
they're far left anti ICE militants who form an alliance
with Antifa. But the mayor of Chicago has openly embraced Antifa.

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He's calling for resistance against ICE agents and resistance against
the National Guard who are only being brought in to
protect ICE and Border Protection agents because they're literally being
attacked by people as they try to arrest murderers, child molesters,
violent illegal criminal aliens. I'll be honest with you, Carolyn,

(08:32):
I'm choosing my words very carefully. Antifa, like Black Lives Matter,
have become now the street militia of the Democratic Party.
They didn't condemn Antifa in the Summer of Love in
twenty twenty when they burned parts of Portland to the ground.
They were cheered on. When they burned parts of Seattle
to the ground, they were cheered on, when they burned

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Kenosha to the ground. They were cheered on in Boston
when they burned parts of Boston down. Then Attorney General
Mora Heally, she's now the governor. But then she said, well,
you have to burn things down because that's how forests grow.
So Antifa has had nothing but support from the Democratic

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Party going back years and years and years. Carolyn, with
all due respect, I just don't think you like the
fact that what the Democrats have become. They've now become
a radical, far left party that is now controlled by
the aocs and the Bernie Sanders and the Elizabeth Warrens.

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They are now controlled essentially by the Marxist socialist wing.
And I think that's why Donald Trump won in twenty
twenty four, and that's why I think he's going to
win the midterms. And that's why I think jd Vance
is going to win in twenty twenty eight because the
Democrats now have really become too extreme for the mainstream

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of American society.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
To you, Carolyn, thank you, Jess. You didn't give me
the website, but.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I have to say, they have their handbook, and just
look up Antifa because they have multiple websites. If you
want the website for Portland, it's called Rose City Antifa
Rose Rosee City Antifa, and you'll see the hammer and
sickle with a fist right through it, and you can

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see exactly what they stand for. There's also the Antifa handbook,
which by the way, Keith Allison, the Attorney General of Minnesota,
has fully endorsed. It's right there in the handbook. And
I've had Antifa on my show. They want the overthrow
of our constitutional republic, the revolutionary overthrow, the overthrow of

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our government, and the overthrow of the entire free market
capitalist system. They are a Marxist anarchist group. Honestly, Carolyn,
there's no debating this. The question now is what do
we do with them? But anyway, look up Rows City Antifa.
It's all there. Thank you, Jeff, Carolyn.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Anything else you want to add, well, as a Democrat,
I'd like to say Antifa does not represent me. It's
a description you just gave of it at all, or
any of the people that I know. I mean, I
know a lot of independent people too. That doesn't represent
anybody that I know. So you know, there's always extremes, Jeff,

(11:31):
in everything. They're just crazy people in every place, including
our own little homes and families. Right, So we need
to manage those, but we don't accuse the whole family
of being sick because one member is well.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, as things stand, right, I mean, I hear
what you're saying, Carolyn, and I really I'm very happy
that you call and believe it. I really do respect
your opinion, and I respect your courage for calling into
the show. But you look at Chicago and you look
at Portland. The last thing they are now is Dave.
They don't want ICE to come in and do their jobs.

(12:07):
They're coddling murderers and rapists and child molesters who are
illegal aliens and ICE agents now here, I'll play you
the cut. You have ICE agents now literally having their
families threatened by Antifa, calling for them to be murdered,
and the Democrats aren't lifting a finger. You've got a mayor.

(12:27):
I've just laid it out. You've got a mayor that
is turning a blind eye. They are occupying streets, blocking traffic,
literally assaulting citizens, and the police are doing nothing. The
mayor is doing nothing, the Democratic mayor, And I don't
see anybody condemning Antifa. They're condemning Trump for sending in

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the National Guard. That's what they're upset about. They're condemning
Trump for sending in Ice agents to arrest these criminal,
illegal aliens, even though he won the election on the
issue and has a mandate to do it and has
the overwhelming support of the American people. So they're obstructing that.
But they're not obstructing Antifa. Look, I'll be honest with you, Carolyn.

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The Democratic Party of your father and of your grandfather
is gone. This is now AOC's party, this is Bernie's party.
This is now the party of the hard left. And
they're making alliances with the hard left, and it's going

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to become clearer and clearer and clearer as every day
goes on. But again we agree to disagree. Carolyn. Thank
you very much for that call. I really appreciate it
nice call, smart call, civil call Andy in Milford. Thanks
for holding Andy and welcome.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Hello, want to go and hey they there's a part
of President Trump's mission to the Middle East indirectly affects this.

(14:20):
He has defanged the free Palestine issue as in terms
of the left using that for the propaganda value. And
I've seen, Jeff, I've watched many clips of these anti
ICE protests outside the ICE facilities, many just on Facebook

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and elsewhere. And what's clear to me, Jeff, is where
we are in the timeline of this thing. They very
much want the propaganda value of the blood of their
own people running in the streets. The one thing that

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Antifa and hamas have in common is they will use
their own people as human shields. And just understanding that
this is what President Trump needs to do. He needs
to declare the Insurrection Act because right now Antifa fits

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the legal definition of an insurrection. And what he needs
to do is not only National Guard, but he has
to do a whole of military approach domestically to confront Antifa.
And the situation you have in Portland, we're they're where

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Antifa's patrolling the streets with pipes and guns and all
of this. What I do, Jeff, is is it beyond
the National Gun?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Andy? Can you please hang on? I'm up against the break.
I'm gonna come right back to Andy. No, look, Andy,
you're right. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, Let's go right back
to Andy and Milford. He was on a roll saying
Antifa is out of control in Portland, which they are,

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out of control in Chicago, which they are. Trump now
needs to drop the hammer. He has to invoke the
Insurrection Act, start arresting members of Antifa, go after their funding,
go after their donors. But he says even that may
not be enough. Andy, please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay, Jeff. Not even beyond the National Guard. They also
should look at arming the eighty second Airborne with rubber bullets,
water cannons, and tear gas. And the idea is that

(17:12):
you absolutely, you and you and you unleash full force
on these armies of Antifa, and you do it as
non legally as possible, and you just pound them, and
you keep pounding them until you take them down, and
then at that point you take them into custody, into

(17:36):
federal custody, and immediately start prosecuting them under the federal
anti terrorism laws. Those local Portland police that say it's
out of our hands, Jeff, let's take them up on that.
Let's take it completely out of their hands and make
it a federal issue and just weep up all these

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people federally, prosecute them federally.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Andy, I agree with you. I think there's no question
the gloves have to come off. The situation in Portland
now is unacceptable, it's intolerable. Were Look, we're at the
risk now of becoming a third world banana republic. You
cannot have a major American city, and by the way,

(18:24):
it's cities because Seattle now is very close to Portland
in terms of the anarchy now in the downtown core
because they're obstructing ICE facilities. Chicago is out of control.
But let's just stick to Portland.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Look, it's compared to what Antifa does at night, and
that's where they really terrorize the residents and ICE and
these federal buildings. They do their damage at night. Oka
like vampires, they come out at night. But you know, again,
I want to go back to what I started with
the show on a Sunday, and there were family in

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the parks. There are people, you know, just strolling on
the streets trying to enjoy a beautiful Sunday afternoon. And
you have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pro Antifa
anti Iiced militants naked. I mean there were a few,
and I'm not kidding, a few in frog and banana costumes.

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So it wasn't one hundred percent nudity, you know, but
about ninety percent of the crowd, and we're talking hundreds now,
there were at least three four hundred easy naked from
head to toe. They had helmets and they had shoes,
and that was it. Men, women, forgive me. They're private

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parts both, you know, the top and the bottom exposed.
The men, they're junk just hanging out, and they're there
for hours, and they're blocking traffic. They're blocking the roads.
They're surrounding ice agents, they're spitting on ice agents. They're

(20:03):
blocking entrances into the ice building. They're doing these dye
ins on the street. I don't know who the hell's
going to shoot them, but anyway or oh, they're killing
all these illegals. No, they're just arresting them and deporting them.
That's what you're supposed to do when you enforce federal
immigration law. And they're lying butt naked on the freaking

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pavement and the mayor does nothing. The governor does nothing,
the police chief does nothing. So another dimension to this is,
so is this now going to be the new norm?
Like slowly but surely. I know in San Francisco is

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a thing. For a while they had people going naked
on buses and going into restaurants completely naked. Now so
we want to sit on bus you know, like on buses,
you know, unhealthy and and unhygienic, that is, But anyway,
let that go. So this is now what this kind
of publicly publican decency and loutness. This is now how

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the left rolls. This is how the Democrats roll now,
and nobody condemns them, and the mayor is just letting
this go on, and the police are not the Only
time they arrested a handful only when they started to
violently attack ice agents, And even then, the ice agents

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will tell you normally, when they attack them at night,
they don't arrest them. But this was in the middle
of the day where they were all buck naked, buck naked,
and there were cameras everywhere, media everywhere. So it's like,
you gotta, right, you gotta make a few arrests. I mean,
for god's sakes, CBS is here, NBC is here, ABC

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is here. You can't just let them whack an Antifa
guy over the head or you know, with her giant
balloon breasts one of them and all just liketush tush,
you know in the face. No, no, you got to
arrest them. That thing is a dangerous weapon. You've got
to arrest them. But outside of that, they don't arrest

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Anti fed no matter how outrageous are violent their behavior
and their conduct. So what We're just gonna let Portland
slide into a third world healthscape, Seattle a third world
healthscape here. Big story. Now, huge left wing democrat billionaire
rabbit Anti Trumper has now come out and said that

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San Francisco is so out of control with Antifa, with crime,
with illegal immigration, with drugs, with forgive me public defecation, homelessness,
urination on the streets. He's begging Trump saying, please forget
everything I ever said about you, Please call in the

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National Guard do for us in San Francisco. What you
did in Washington, DC, and what you're doing now in Memphis.
Save San Francisco before it's too late. And you know, Andy, look,
I notice a temptation in this incredible audience. And you
know how much respect I have for this incredible audience.

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But I get it all the time. I get text messages, messages,
emails where they say, let them go, Jeff, if they
want to burn themselves down, if they want to destroy
themselves these blue cities and blue states, just let them fall,
let them go. You want to go down, go down.

(23:41):
Every country needs great cities. I'm telling you as an historian,
dying cities means a dying country. With all due respect
to people like myself who live in the suburbs or exerbs,

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or people who live in rural areas, as important as
we are. Ultimately a country is made by its cities.
And if you have a country with dying cities, you
have a dying country. I'm sorry, there's no getting around
that fact. And you know, I understand we're on the

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right side of history when it comes to this invasion
at the border that was unleashed by Biden and he
let in what ten twenty million illegals in just four years,
disproportionate number of them criminals, violent criminals. So I know
we have to go in there and start deporting them
en mass But you know, let's just leave illegal immigration

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alone just for a second. Andy, just look at Portland.
I'm just going to use Portland as a test case.
But you can apply it to Boston. You can apply
it to Atlanta, to Los Angeles, to fill a Das,
to Baltimore, to Chicago, to Milwaukee, to I can name you,
to San Francisco, I can name you La, I can

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name you city after city. You go through Portland. It
is full of homeless encampments. I don't mean a homeless
person here or a homeless person there. There is mass homelessness.
People walking on the streets, homeless, many of them crazy

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in saying they need medication, they need mental health treatment.
They're urinating, they're defecating. You walk on the sidewalk or
in the parks. There are used needles everywhere. You see
people odining on the streets, odeing, injecting themselves, people injecting

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needles into their toes in the middle of At a
park in downtown Portland on a weekend, describes the scene.
He goes, I was in Portland, he goes, I'm making
two yards away, I see this young woman in her twenties,
somebody's daughter, somebody's sister, and literally a drug addict, and

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right there in the middle of the park a needle
in her toe, shooting herself up with black tar, heroin
or whatever and saying she's gonna die. It's only a
question of When you have a seventy two year old
man literally now smoking meth on the street, smoking meth.

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He's killing himself smoking meth. You have people passed out
in front of businesses where you and the business owners
like I can't touch them. I call the police. The
police won't remove the body. They're stoned. There's you know,
they're high, they're whatever they're doing. They're having sex in

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these parts, in these makeshift bathrooms. They're having public sex.
This is what's happening in Portland. This has been documented,
and nobody cares. The mayor doesn't care, The governor doesn't care,

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the police chief doesn't care. The citizens of Portland don't care.
This is your city, This is a city many of
them were born and raised in and you allow this
to take place.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
You have no.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Conscience, you have no humanity, Like I'm forget the illegal
immigration issue. When did it become acceptable for this to
happen to our cities in public life like this, where
we just say yeah, okay, sure, yeah, yeah, no crazy
homeless people yeah yep, yeah yep. People defecating on the

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streets yep. Urinating yep, yep, od ing right there, yep, yep,
Literally shooting up in front of businesses yep. Yeah, well
nothing you can do, yep, yep. Things boarded up, homes,
constantly vandalized cars, car jacked, business is boarded up. Everybody
is like a ghost town. And we just shrug our

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shoulders and go, yep, this is our country, these are
our fellow citizens, and this is okay, this is now
suddenly acceptable. I'm sorry, it's not acceptable to me. This
is not my America. This is you know, this is
our homeland. It's our homeland. It's the land of our home.

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I'm telling you, God is my witnesses. We wouldn't tolerate this.
If a dog owner did this to his dog, if
his dog was overdosing, if his dog was put in
filthy conditions to live in, we would say that's animal abuse.
We would not tolerate a dog owner to mistreat his

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dog the way we allow the Democrats to mistreat human
beings on the streets of our cities. So if it's
not acceptable for dogs, why is it acceptable for fellow
American citizens. So no, I'm very different than most of
these so called conservatives who say, oh no, you can't

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frond in the National Guard. Oh my god, they've got
federalized the Guard. That's says tyranny, authoritarianism, that says a dictatorship. No,
this is saving our cities and saving our country. It's
saving fellow Americans. There is a big apartment complex. Last

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point that I want to go right back to you, Andy,
there is a big apartment complex right behind that Ice
building federal building in downtown Portland, the one that Antifa
and these anti ice militants have now targeted. It's overwhelmingly minority,

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overwhelmingly frankly African American, not completely, some Latinos, some white people,
but overwhelmingly black. Have you noticed that the media has
not interviewed one person in that residential building, that apartment building. Notice,
they're always there to play the race card and to
pit the races against each other. And they'd love, they'd

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love to get a quote Trump is killing us. Trump
should just get out of Portland, get Ice out of Portland.
But they can't even get one to say that. Why
is it? Because every resident to a man, woman and child,
is saying, get Antifa out of Portland. They're begging for

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the National Guard. They're begging for it, saying, we can't
live like this anymore. This is not fit for animals
to live like this. So what they have no rights to?
They have no rights. Now in Chicago, let me tell

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you what the media is not showing you. The five
hundred National Guard troops that Trump is sent in on
the South Side of Chicago, overwhelmingly minority, overwhelmingly black. They're
coming out on the streets. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yes,
it's about time. It's about time. They're cheering the National Guard.

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They're cheering the National Guard. And just to understand the context,
and look, I'm going to take a lot of heat
for this, but if I'm not here to speak the truth,
honest to god, what's the point of me being behind
this microphone. I think Trump is going way too soft.
You have my honest opinion, five hundred National Guard troops
for Chicago is nothing. Two hundred National Guard troops for

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what the crisis now in Portland. It's a drop in
the bucket. It's nothing. And let me just give you
an example when you see that idiot Pritzker go on
MS left PC as he did recently and say ESEs unprecedented.
This is authoritarian. To send in the National Guard over

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the objections of the governor just has never, never, never
been done in American history before. You're a buffoon. I'm
telling you to your face, you're not just mister Golden Corral.
You're not just a freaking slob. You're a buffoon. Has
everybody forgotten Board v Board of Brown v Board of

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Education already? This is the problem when you don't teach
history in school anymore. Everybody's now a historical ignoramus. After
Brown b Board of Education at Central High School in Arkansas,
one high school. I'm just explaining to everybody the context.

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It wasn't even a college, it was one high school.
For one student to be integrated. In nineteen fifty seven,
one black student, Dwight the Eisenhower, over the objections of
the Arkansas governor, called in the hundred and first Airborne

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If you know anything about World War two, that was
our most effective fighting unit, our most devastating fighting unit.
He called in the one hundred and first Airborne to
enforce federal law and the Supreme Court decision, against the

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objections of the governor, against the objections of the mayor,
against the objections of many of the citizens of that
area around Central High School. You don't like that example,
let me give you one more five years later. This
time it's a university Mississippi. One student wanted to go

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to Mississippi University. John F. Kennedy, over the objections of
the governor, over the objections of the local mayor, called in,
listen to this, thirty to one thousand National Guard troops,

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not five hundred, not two hundred, not three hundred, thirty
one thousand, so that one black student would be allowed
to go and be integrated and attend college. And by
the way, there were five thousand students at the campus

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at the time, so thirty one thousand for five thousand,
six to one. Now I could go on. It's been
done hundreds of times, not dozens hundreds of times, against
the wishes of the governor, against the wishes of the mayor.

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But suddenly now Trump is doing it. It's a the tatorship.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
It says, tyranny.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
We only have what was the latest? Now they came out,
what was it, Chuck Schumer? We have four months left
before our democracy is over. They're inciting. They know exactly
who they're inciting. They're going wink wink to Antifa, burn
the whole damn thing down. That's what they're doing, Andy,

(36:19):
That's what they're doing. Trump shouldn't send in five hundred
National Guard troops. He should send five thousand to Chicago.
He shouldn't be sending in three four hundred National Guard
troops to Portland. He should be sending three to four
to five thousand into Portland. In other words, exactly to
your point, invoke the Insurrection Act, Send in the National Guard,

(36:45):
send in federalized troops. Go hard, go heavy. Eisenhower did it,