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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, I've been waiting for this because she knows a
lot about real estate. She comes from a construction family.
Her dad was a builder. So if anybody's got special
expertise on this, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
Grace vuoto full disclosure. Men, did I marry up my
(00:28):
wonderful wife, Grace. Look, you're a realtor. You do a
lot of real estate. You know real estate, you know construction.
Your dad, as I said, was a builder. Trump, out
of his own pocket and with private funding, not taxpayer money,
wants to expand the East Wing, tear it down, demolish
(00:48):
part of it, expand and at the heart of it
a big, beautiful ballroom. The left says, he's the filing
sacred ground. He's taking a literal wrecking ball to the
White House. This is an attack on history, and as
Hillary said, it's an attack on the people's house. He's
(01:09):
destroying the people's house. It's a massive scandal. What say you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So much for having me on? Well, I think I
have a perspective that's going to surprise you today, Jeff,
because I really do not like this project at all,
and I'll tell you why. I know that his intentions
are noble, and I know that he's being maligned at
every turn by the left, and so we feel the
need to come to his defense all the time. But
(01:40):
on this one, I just think that building a ballroom
right now is a huge luxury project. When you think
about this, Who's going to benefit from a ballroom like that?
Foreigners like Emmanuel mccron, I don't know, the leader of
Saudi Arabia, Mark Karney and his wife Zelenski and his wife,
(02:00):
Chancellor Mertz. Who's going to really benefit from a bigger ballroom.
We really don't need this right now. I think the
country has so many big, big problems that to be
doing this luxury project right now it seems to me
just a very very bad timing. So I'm sorry to
(02:22):
disagree with you, and I know a lot of the
audience is excited about this. I also want to say
that I visited the White House. It was beautiful as
it was now. There's a difference between you want to
keep the carpet updated, you want to make sure that
the leather seating is updated. There's a difference between keeping
a white House updated to a massive renovation, a massive expansion.
(02:48):
Those two things are very different. I toured many, many
of the most beautiful places in the world, the Chateau Versailles,
beautiful places in Europe, and yet I found the austere
and the simplicity of the White House as it was
absolutely stunning and in keeping with our American traditions, we
(03:09):
don't need to show off. And I do not like
what he's done to the Oval Office. All that gold,
I think is tacky. I would take all that down,
and so I'm just not agreeing with his asceticism at
all on this. I'm not agreeing with the timing, and
I think it's a luxury project that is really out
of step with what the people need right now, which
(03:30):
is a laser focus on the economy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Jeff, Well, let me well, actually he's improving the economy
because he's got construction crews working around the clock. He's
literally creating jobs right there at the White House. That's
number one. But number two, it's not as if he's,
you know, a construction foreman, and he's there telling him
tear this down, tear that down, put this up. He's got,
(03:55):
you know, a professional with the most professional crew in
the world and working, he's working on other things. It's
not distracting him a single bit. And you know, Grace,
I'm a little surprised that your opinion on this, and
I'll tell you why. Yes, he invites foreign dignitaries. But
the White House holds all kinds of events for Americans.
(04:17):
School children will go visit. You know, you win the
super Bowl, the teams go visit, members of Congress go visit.
There's all kinds of you know, staffers, events for Americans
all the time. There's bill signings. In other words, this
idea that this is all just for Macron or Zelensky
(04:39):
or Mark Karney, the Prime Minister of Canada, it's not true.
And you know Trump's point is they stick them in
this cocktail room and you can barely fit eighty people
in there. It's embarrassing. And let me just add one
other point, and I want to get your rebuttal. Theodore
Roosevelt literally did a massive expand he built the West Wing,
(05:01):
the whole West Wing. President William Howard Taft built the
Oval Office, the actual Oval Office FDR. In the midst
of the Great Depression on taxpayer money, built the entire
East wing and a swimming pool. Harry Truman literally gutted
and reconstructed and rebuilt the entire White House, including a
(05:26):
massive bowling alley. I mean, I could go on and on.
Obama a basketball court. Suddenly Trump wants to build the ballroom,
and it's tacky. It's the timing is wrong. We have
to focus on the economy, you know. I mean, the
West Wing. You like the West Wing, the Oval Office,
(05:48):
you like the Oval Office, the East Wing, you like
the East Wing. The modern white House that was Truman.
You like the modern White House. So how come every
other president can add an expansion.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But Trump, well, Jeff Trump campaigned differently. He has a
different campaign. His campaign was a laser focus on the
forgotten man and woman. How many people actually have the
chance to go sit in the new ballroom. It's going
to be a very small portion of the American people
that'll ever go there. And the larger point is this,
(06:20):
The White House is beautiful as it is. Like I said,
I've toward some of the most beautiful places in the world.
And when I went there, actually I went with my mom,
one of the most memorable moments of my whole life.
I was astonished by the beauty of the White House
as it was, and I even bought a book because
I thought that so much of it was gorgeous. I
wanted to emulate some of its decor. So the idea
(06:42):
that it has to be improved because we're an embarrassment
to the world is just wrong. And he's imitating the
aesthetic of Europeans and of the Arab world, rather than
the aesthetic of America, which is puritanical, which is austere,
which is simple, which is dignified. And I think a
lot of his taste in architecture and what he's done
(07:05):
to the White Ass it's just gaudy. Listen, Milanya has
beautiful taste in her clothes, but her interior decorating tastes
are just deplorable, and I strongly dislike it. I think
he should have just think about that two hundred million.
Had he raised it, say to do something magnificent for
our vets, I would be cheering today. But this is
(07:25):
a luxury project that just rubs me the wrong way.
I'm sorry to disagree with you and many people of
the audience, but that's sincerely how I feel.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, no, I, Lissa, I appreciate your sincerity and your authenticity. Look,
let me just make two quick points and then you know,
I'll get your Obviously, I want to give you a
chance to respond. Every building Trump is built, whether it's
in New York, in New Jersey, in Florida, in Chicago,
never mind around the world, they're beautiful, they're stunning. Yeah,
(07:57):
they're a bit more on the ostentatious side, that's his.
But when you say, you know, it's got to be
austere and puritanical and that's your taste. New Yorkers would
disagree with you, Floridians would disagree with you, Midwesterners would
disagree with you. Californians would disagree with you. So what
(08:17):
I'm saying is, we have some very beautiful, big, impressive
buildings that Trump has built, not just him, but others.
So you know, this is not the eighteenth century. With
all due respect, you know, we're not a small, fledgling
republic an agrarian country. We're the greatest superpower in the
(08:40):
history of the world. And the world comes to us
and then you say, well, it's not going to be
used by the American people. I disagree. We see the
White House all the time, you see it from the outside.
He's also making it beautiful, not just on the inside,
but on the outside. So you know, I'm sorry. Sorry.
(09:00):
Every other country in the world can have a spectacular ballroom.
You name your country, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia.
I could go on and on. Suddenly we have a big,
beautiful ballroom. And Grace Voto says, he's not focused on
the on the little man. He's now forgotten the forgotten man.
(09:24):
That yeah, we're having state dinners in a tent. That's
what it's been, literally in a tent outside with the rain.
State dinners and a tent.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, this is wrong. Having we already have a ballroom.
He just wants a much bigger one and a much
more ostentatious one. We have a place to greet foreigners.
We have a beautiful oval office that has served this
country well. We have a unique aesthetic. We don't need
gold on the walls, because we have bombs that can
blow up an Iranian facility with such precision. That's what's impressive.
(09:56):
It's not gold on the walls that impresses anybody you
know around the world.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
World.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This is the mindset of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,
not in the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
By the way, we don't have a ballroom. What we
have is an East wing and you can barely fit
eighty people in there. And if you have more than
eighty people at a function, they put you in a
tent outside. Now you're right, that's a bit more on
the Saudi style, you know, like the Middle East Arab
style a tent. All that's missing is the camels. Okay,
So I'm just saying, no, we're a modern Western country
(10:30):
and I think we should have a nice ballroom and
frankly a modern, upgraded white house. But that's me, and
I respect your opinion. By the way, you know you
tend to like gold. I'm just saying privately, your style
is more in the Trump vein. You know, you like
mar You're Italian, for God's sake, you like marble, you
(10:52):
like gold, you like the nice stuff. And on that note, thanks.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys
for Boston w RKO
Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston wrko.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, I've been waiting for this because she knows a
lot about real estate. She comes from a construction family.
Her dad was a builder. So if anybody's got special
expertise on this, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
Grace vuoto full disclosure. Men, did I marry up my
(00:28):
wonderful wife, Grace. Look, you're a realtor. You do a
lot of real estate. You know real estate, you know construction.
Your dad, as I said, was a builder. Trump, out
of his own pocket and with private funding, not taxpayer money,
wants to expand the East Wing, tear it down, demolish
(00:48):
part of it, expand and at the heart of it
a big, beautiful ballroom. The left says, he's the filing
sacred ground. He's taking a literal wrecking ball to the
White House. This is an attack on history, and as
Hillary said, it's an attack on the people's house. He's
(01:09):
destroying the people's house. It's a massive scandal. What say you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So much for having me on? Well, I think I
have a perspective that's going to surprise you today, Jeff,
because I really do not like this project at all,
and I'll tell you why. I know that his intentions
are noble, and I know that he's being maligned at
every turn by the left, and so we feel the
need to come to his defense all the time. But
(01:40):
on this one, I just think that building a ballroom
right now is a huge luxury project. When you think
about this, Who's going to benefit from a ballroom like that?
Foreigners like Emmanuel mccron, I don't know, the leader of
Saudi Arabia, Mark Karney and his wife Zelenski and his wife,
(02:00):
Chancellor Mertz. Who's going to really benefit from a bigger ballroom.
We really don't need this right now. I think the
country has so many big, big problems that to be
doing this luxury project right now it seems to me
just a very very bad timing. So I'm sorry to
(02:22):
disagree with you, and I know a lot of the
audience is excited about this. I also want to say
that I visited the White House. It was beautiful as
it was now. There's a difference between you want to
keep the carpet updated, you want to make sure that
the leather seating is updated. There's a difference between keeping
a white House updated to a massive renovation, a massive expansion.
(02:48):
Those two things are very different. I toured many, many
of the most beautiful places in the world, the Chateau Versailles,
beautiful places in Europe, and yet I found the austere
and the simplicity of the White House as it was
absolutely stunning and in keeping with our American traditions, we
(03:09):
don't need to show off. And I do not like
what he's done to the Oval Office. All that gold,
I think is tacky. I would take all that down,
and so I'm just not agreeing with his asceticism at
all on this. I'm not agreeing with the timing, and
I think it's a luxury project that is really out
of step with what the people need right now, which
(03:30):
is a laser focus on the economy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Jeff, Well, let me well, actually he's improving the economy
because he's got construction crews working around the clock. He's
literally creating jobs right there at the White House. That's
number one. But number two, it's not as if he's,
you know, a construction foreman, and he's there telling him
tear this down, tear that down, put this up. He's got,
(03:55):
you know, a professional with the most professional crew in
the world and working, he's working on other things. It's
not distracting him a single bit. And you know, Grace,
I'm a little surprised that your opinion on this, and
I'll tell you why. Yes, he invites foreign dignitaries. But
the White House holds all kinds of events for Americans.
(04:17):
School children will go visit. You know, you win the
super Bowl, the teams go visit, members of Congress go visit.
There's all kinds of you know, staffers, events for Americans
all the time. There's bill signings. In other words, this
idea that this is all just for Macron or Zelensky
(04:39):
or Mark Karney, the Prime Minister of Canada, it's not true.
And you know Trump's point is they stick them in
this cocktail room and you can barely fit eighty people
in there. It's embarrassing. And let me just add one
other point, and I want to get your rebuttal. Theodore
Roosevelt literally did a massive expand he built the West Wing,
(05:01):
the whole West Wing. President William Howard Taft built the
Oval Office, the actual Oval Office FDR. In the midst
of the Great Depression on taxpayer money, built the entire
East wing and a swimming pool. Harry Truman literally gutted
and reconstructed and rebuilt the entire White House, including a
(05:26):
massive bowling alley. I mean, I could go on and on.
Obama a basketball court. Suddenly Trump wants to build the ballroom,
and it's tacky. It's the timing is wrong. We have
to focus on the economy, you know. I mean, the
West Wing. You like the West Wing, the Oval Office,
(05:48):
you like the Oval Office, the East Wing, you like
the East Wing. The modern white House that was Truman.
You like the modern White House. So how come every
other president can add an expansion.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But Trump, well, Jeff Trump campaigned differently. He has a
different campaign. His campaign was a laser focus on the
forgotten man and woman. How many people actually have the
chance to go sit in the new ballroom. It's going
to be a very small portion of the American people
that'll ever go there. And the larger point is this,
(06:20):
The White House is beautiful as it is. Like I said,
I've toward some of the most beautiful places in the world.
And when I went there, actually I went with my mom,
one of the most memorable moments of my whole life.
I was astonished by the beauty of the White House
as it was, and I even bought a book because
I thought that so much of it was gorgeous. I
wanted to emulate some of its decor. So the idea
(06:42):
that it has to be improved because we're an embarrassment
to the world is just wrong. And he's imitating the
aesthetic of Europeans and of the Arab world, rather than
the aesthetic of America, which is puritanical, which is austere,
which is simple, which is dignified. And I think a
lot of his taste in architecture and what he's done
(07:05):
to the White Ass it's just gaudy. Listen, Milanya has
beautiful taste in her clothes, but her interior decorating tastes
are just deplorable, and I strongly dislike it. I think
he should have just think about that two hundred million.
Had he raised it, say to do something magnificent for
our vets, I would be cheering today. But this is
(07:25):
a luxury project that just rubs me the wrong way.
I'm sorry to disagree with you and many people of
the audience, but that's sincerely how I feel.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, no, I, Lissa, I appreciate your sincerity and your authenticity. Look,
let me just make two quick points and then you know,
I'll get your Obviously, I want to give you a
chance to respond. Every building Trump is built, whether it's
in New York, in New Jersey, in Florida, in Chicago,
never mind around the world, they're beautiful, they're stunning. Yeah,
(07:57):
they're a bit more on the ostentatious side, that's his.
But when you say, you know, it's got to be
austere and puritanical and that's your taste. New Yorkers would
disagree with you, Floridians would disagree with you, Midwesterners would
disagree with you. Californians would disagree with you. So what
(08:17):
I'm saying is, we have some very beautiful, big, impressive
buildings that Trump has built, not just him, but others.
So you know, this is not the eighteenth century. With
all due respect, you know, we're not a small, fledgling
republic an agrarian country. We're the greatest superpower in the
(08:40):
history of the world. And the world comes to us
and then you say, well, it's not going to be
used by the American people. I disagree. We see the
White House all the time, you see it from the outside.
He's also making it beautiful, not just on the inside,
but on the outside. So you know, I'm sorry. Sorry.
(09:00):
Every other country in the world can have a spectacular ballroom.
You name your country, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia.
I could go on and on. Suddenly we have a big,
beautiful ballroom. And Grace Voto says, he's not focused on
the on the little man. He's now forgotten the forgotten man.
(09:24):
That yeah, we're having state dinners in a tent. That's
what it's been, literally in a tent outside with the rain.
State dinners and a tent.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, this is wrong. Having we already have a ballroom.
He just wants a much bigger one and a much
more ostentatious one. We have a place to greet foreigners.
We have a beautiful oval office that has served this
country well. We have a unique aesthetic. We don't need
gold on the walls, because we have bombs that can
blow up an Iranian facility with such precision. That's what's impressive.
(09:56):
It's not gold on the walls that impresses anybody you
know around the world.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
World.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This is the mindset of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,
not in the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
By the way, we don't have a ballroom. What we
have is an East wing and you can barely fit
eighty people in there. And if you have more than
eighty people at a function, they put you in a
tent outside. Now you're right, that's a bit more on
the Saudi style, you know, like the Middle East Arab
style a tent. All that's missing is the camels. Okay,
So I'm just saying, no, we're a modern Western country
(10:30):
and I think we should have a nice ballroom and
frankly a modern, upgraded white house. But that's me, and
I respect your opinion. By the way, you know you
tend to like gold. I'm just saying privately, your style
is more in the Trump vein. You know, you like
mar You're Italian, for God's sake, you like marble, you
(10:52):
like gold, you like the nice stuff. And on that note, thanks.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from
his wife. The Kooner Report weekend edition on the Boys
for Boston w RKO
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