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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. The there
are some media outlets, some that are reporting that it
appears that aids close to Trump and to Elon are
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hoping for some kind of a possible detonte. They are
saying there could be a truce phone call between the
two men later today. We shall see, uh. But anyway,
just so that you know, there is work being done
behind the scenes to try to have both men bury
the hatchet. Hopefully they will, but with this this volatile relationship,
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who knows what the hell's gonna happen. Six one seven
two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay.
This is from Sharon, and she's making a point that
many of you and Cooner Country are making. And that's
why I want to give it as much exposure as
I can, because I want to represent all possible sides,
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voices and angles in this, you know, in this massive
feud between Trump and Elon, which is clearly the biggest
story in the world, there's no question. Good morning, Jeff,
Well good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sharon.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I have a slightly different take on Elon's behavior. I'm
not excusing Elon crossing the line, but I think what
we witnessed yesterday is emotional disregulation on full display. People
with Aspergers, and Elon has aspergers, typically do not apply
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quote unquote filters or know when to stop when they
respond in anger. I also think Elon experienced friendship positive
reinforcement with Trump in a personal life, and I agree
with Trump and you that he misses it and he
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doesn't know how to process that loss. So now this
is interesting. So what Sharon is saying is, look, it's
partly the ass burgers. There's no filter, and many of
you are saying that, and when they get angry, they
just they get worse and worse and worse, and they
just start to lash out. In other words, it's irrational.
(02:28):
At a certain point, it becomes irrational. But the other
point is no, Look, he's generally an isolated guy. By
his own admission, he's socially very awkward, has been his
entire life. In some sense, he's almost half mature.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Trump says he's half genius, half boy. Trump says that
about him all the time he goes There's no question
the guy's IQ is off the charts. There's no question
he's a brilliant entrepreneur, inventor, businessman, but he says I
don't get a lot of his humor. Trump has often
said that it's like he's a bit boyish, like a
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bit immature in some in some levels, in some ways.
So and what Sharon is saying is Elon really connected
with Trump, really forged a personal bond. So it's not
even so much the attention, the glamour, the spotlight being
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at the center of it all, although that may be
part of it. It's also I had a lot of
fun with Trump. We really bonded, we really connected. Now
that's gone, and with Asberger's it almost feels like a
personal betrayal and a deep personal loss. There's something about
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Elon's response. It's just it's off kilter. You're like, whoa, whoa,
It's just you're you're going on, going off the rails,
like whoa, what?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Impeach?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What a new political party?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
He's in the Epstein files. What it's all going to
come out. The truth is going to come out, Mark
this post. He's in the Epstein files, and that's why
they don't want to release it. So he's gone from
a you know, zero to one hundred miles per hour
in eighteen hours in two days. So again, I don't
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know if it's the drugs. I don't know if it's
the aspergers. I don't know what it is. But yeah,
I think they should have a phone call. I don't
know at this point would you make up with him?
I mean maybe superficially, but I don't know how you
walk any of this back. Six one seven two six
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six sixty eight sixty eight. Harry in Maine. Thanks for
holding Harry, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Good morning. I've got so much to unload here. I'll
try to make it as consolidated and concise as I can.
One thing I want to get off my mind quickly
is get on the record quickly, is that I don't
agree that Trump should have used the term trumps arrangement
syndrome in this instance. I think it triggered the whole thing.
There are other ways he could have handled it, and
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the example could be there are several Republicans who Trump
gets along with Rick Scott to a degree, Ran Paul,
and there's others that don't support this bill the way
it is currently structured. Ron Johnson included, but there's no
way that he's going, you know, off the rails with
these folks. He's handling it professionally, and he's sticking to
his point. The second thing I want to say is
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you mentioned earlier in the show how much Elon has contributed.
No doubt, he did an unbelievable job explaining it, and
we shouldn't forget that, we shouldn't disregard it. But Trump
has also given up a lot. The guy's been attempted
to be assassinated twice in the head. His brand took
a major beaten from twenty fifteen right up until now,
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and he suffered financially as well as personally. So as
far as you know, who sacrifice what Trump's right up there.
He hasn't taken a paycheck from the government as well.
You asked earlier to Jeff, who do I support? This
is simple whose name was on the ballot. I didn't
vote for Elon Musk. I voted for President Donald J. Trump.
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This is his agenda, this is his legacy. That's at stake.
We the people voted for his agenda. He controls his
own legacy. Now he's going to make the decisions he
feels that need to be made to pull us out
of the ruck that we're in domestically and internationally. So
I'm going to let the guy do what he needs
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to do. I'm going to let the man do what
he thinks is right, and then history will tell us
whether he was right or wrong. But I'm not going
to pull the rug from under him. I support him
one hundred and ten and I think the American people
should rally behind that. One other final point last night,
Nukeenrich made a great point about this whole situation. His
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analogy was that Elon Musk. He said it very nicely.
He just said, it's a tempa tantrum and he needs
to basically grow up and get himself back in the
saddle and get his mind in his head in the
right spot and you know, move on. But all this
stuff about the Epstein file and so forths all flassical
and at the end of the day, Jeff, you put
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this woman, Sharon, I think she she stated very very
nicely in the text that you just read, this could
be something that is just a little bit beyondest you know,
Musk's control. I'm not going to, you know, speculate whether
he's on drugs or whatever, but certainly people with the condition.
And I'm not an expert on Asperger, but certainly with
that type of condition. You know, No, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Trump versus Elon the bromance. Oh boy, it's over two
six six is the number? Okay? Let me ask all
of you. Should Elon issue a public apology to Trump?
I mean, especially after the whole Epstein files. He's in
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him and that's why they don't want to release them.
And trust me, market you know you'll see this post
is true. Should Musk be forced to issue a public
apology after calling for the impeachment of the president, saying
that the president would never have been elected without Elon
and that it's time to form a completely new political
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party with essentially Elon as the titular head, and to
lead a revolt against the Trump administration now if not,
if he doesn't issue an apology, should Trump ask for
the keys to the White House to be returned if
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if you remember, you know they did when he sent
give him his beautiful send off just last week. Here
are the keys and you can You're always welcome here, Elon.
So what do you think Trump should should Trump? I
mean personally if I was Trump, I want the keys back.
That's what I would be talking on. You know, if
they're gonna have their phone call today, I'd be like, Elon,
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send me the keys back, please, or I'm gonna change
the locks. Yeah, change the locks. You know, So Elon,
give me the keys back, or I'm changing the locks.
But that's that's me. Six one seven two six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Uh okay, very
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quickly listen now to Trump attacking Elon yesterday, it was
still somewhat civil. It was more the policy of the bill,
the motivations behind trum Elon's opposition to the bill.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I e.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That Trump took out or the bill takes out billions
of dollars in credits and in subsidies for electrical vehicles,
EV batteries and solar panels. Roll cut one a mike.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And you know, Elon's upset because we took the EV
mandate and you know, which was a lot of money
for electric vehicles. And you know, they having a hard
time the electric vehicles, and they want us to pay
billions of dollars in subsidy. And you know, I Elon
knew this from the beginning. He knew it for a
long time ago. That's been in there, that's been I
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would say, JD. That hasn't changed, that's been right for
the beginning. Mister I think, mister secretary, that hasn't changed
it right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But I know that it disturbed him. He wanted and rightfully,
you know he so basically you know he's saying, that's
why he's so upset. So in other words, this is
personal for Elon, it's financial, it's monetary. Now to me,
this is what Elon now needs to answer. You're now
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claiming that he's in the Epstein files and that's why
they're not being released, and that eventually they will come
out that Trump essentially was diddling underage girls. That's his argument. Well,
you knew this before, so why As an example, when
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this was when he was at Doge working for Trump,
riding high just a few months ago. Here's what he
said about the president. Then this is on Fox roll
cut for b Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I think President Trump is a good man. The President
has been so unfailure attacked in the media. It's truly outrageous.
And I've spent at this point, I spent a lot
of time with President and not once have I seen
him do something that was mean or cruel or own.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Hello really, hell, hello, Now you want him impeached? Now
the guy's a pedophile.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Look, either you're lying or you're just looking now to
go for his throat and you're just gonna you know,
you're defaming the guy. It's just slanderous libel after slanderous libel.
But I think there's no question he has stabbed Trump
in the back. Now, to be fair, now both men are,
you know, starting to spit on each other. But it
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wasn't always like this. Now this is just a recent montage.
I'm not talking about you know, during the election or
six months ago or you know, like this is just
seven days ago, last week. Listen, now this is Trump
an Elon World cut four C Mike.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
To be joined tonight by one of the people who
is going to help us build this incredible future. And
he is a truly incredible guy.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And his name is Elon Musk.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
President Trump must win to preserve the Constitution. He must
win to preserve democracy in America.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Do we have a new star? A star is born?
Elan I love Tesler is doing with dray Job he's
finding tremendous fraud and corruption and waste.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor
to the president.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It was a bit of a different cut. I wanted
to play the montage of their meeting last Friday where
they were just slapping each other on the back, but
still fine. So this is them over the last couple
of months, just during the election. After the election, you
could see the bromance. It just kept going, going and
going and going and going. And then it went from
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in three days to I don't like the bill, to
kill the bill to impeach Trump, to now the guy's
a pedophile six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight Mark in Medford. Thanks for holding Mark, and welcome.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Good morning, Jeff. First of all, I just want to
make it clear I think if you or I were
on the ticket, we were to beat Tommala and tampon.
Tim just saying it because I still don't believe Kamala
got the votes that she really got. So but let's
but as you would say, let that go, okay, Jeff,
I'm I'm a little disappointed with Elon. I wrote this
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down in a message just the case I didn't get
on the air with you. And first of all, Elon
knew that Trump was going to reverse the easy mandates.
He campaigned on it. So I don't know where he's
coming from with this, with this nonsense, okay. And as
far as Trump not showing gratitude, Jeff Trump has showed
tremendous gratitude to Elon and his family. I mean he
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included him in many situations, in many meetings where Trump
really didn't have to, he didn't want to, Okay, And
this is how he acts. Yeah, I think there's a
little something off with Elon. Maybe he needs to hup
his dose on his medication. I don't know. And thirdly,
you accuse him of being on the island. Well, Jeff,
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in all honesty, if he thought for one second, if
he thought for one second that Trump was on that
island he wanted to lift a finger to help him
with his campaign, with Dode or anything else. He's lying,
And yes he does owe the President of the United
States an apology.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know you're dead on Mark. That's why I said,
I think Elon's lying. He just made that up just
to hurt Trump. He got personal, he got vish, and
he just started to lash out, and what's the way
I can hurt him the most, accuse him of being
on the island. And look, I just want to read
the tweet that he sent out and this is exactly
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what he said on X Really I could when he
When I read it, I couldn't believe it. So here's
what he wrote. This is Elon Musk time to drop
the really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in
the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have
not been made public. Have a nice day DJT. And
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then he followed that up with Mark this down. This
will be proven true in the future. Mark, I'm with you,
he Owes, I'm sorry, he Owes the president and apology.
And of course the Dems and the media are salivating now.
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They're they're they're wrapping Epstein around Trump's Let me throw
another super small log on the fire, as I like
to say, now that we've seen this ugly public feud
between Elon and Trump, especially a lot of this stuff
that Elon, the personal stuff, the defamation, the slander that
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Elon has now leveled against Trump, Have you lost some
respect for Elon? Have you lost some respect for Trump?
I'm just curious, has either man been reduced in your eyes?
Or do you just see this as some of you do.
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These are two alpha males, There are two big dogs.
As they say, these are two business titans. One is
a political force of nature. Elon is the wealthiest man
in the world. This is what you get, you know.
These are men with big egos, big personalities. They're gonna clash,
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They're gonna fight, then they make up, then they fight
and then they make up that. In other words, ultimately,
this is much ado about nothing. Or do you think
this has hurt their public image and their credibility at
least the way you see them. I'm just curious. Six
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one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Ellie
in Worcester. Thanks for holding Ellie and welcome.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Hey buddy, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ellie?
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Pretty good? I have a take on this. I don't
know if you'll agree or not, but these are the
reactions of two men who love each other and have
affection for each other. He gave him the key to
a wife. I mean, it seems like they had built
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up this father son relationship, you know, and they The
hurt is always more intense when you get hurt feelings.
If you've ever dealt with family members, the viciousness could
get pretty bad because there's hurt involved, hurt feelings because
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you love someone and have affection for them. I think
that they had a father dad relationship. I mean he
was there in the office, just like little John John
was with President Kennedy, you know, and he had affection
for his you know, Elon's son. You know, you can't
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be an employee employer and father son image and not
have some clashes. I think the two got mixed up,
and I think that they should just you know, kiss
and make up, because it's obvious to me that they
they love each other and they have great effects for
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each other. But just like family members, the same thing
that could get pretty vicious with each other. You know,
I've seen it happen a million times.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because oh no, no, I agree with you. You're completely right, Absolutely,
you're completely right. My question is this, Look, I get it,
family fights. It can get really ugly, very you know, nasty, vicious.
But calling a guy a pedophile, what I'm saying is
there's certain lines, you know, to me, you just don't cross, now,
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you know, if you have evidence, And that's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Grace made this point to me as well. She said, look,
if he really has evidence, then be a man and
show it. If you're saying that Trump is in the
Epstein files and you know this for sure, and you're
gonna be vindicated on this, mark this post. You know
I'll be proven true in the future. Well then if
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you got it, show it. But don't accuse and tease
and intimate, not on something like this. So what I'm
saying is this, Ellie, I get it. You know, I
hate you, you know or whatever. You know, you're a
jerk or whatever. If you say things in anger with
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family you don't really mean, or you just want to
hurt them because your feelings are hurt. But ay ya yai,
you know, I mean, look, let's just play this out
just for the sake of argument, Elie. They call and
they make up what do they say?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Really like Okay, So you're gonna be in front of
the media. The media is going to ask the obvious question,
do you still think Trump should be impeached?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Do you still what about your call for a political party?
Political party that represents eighty percent of Americans in the
middle In other words, people should break away from Trump's
Republican Party. You still yeah? And yes, no, okay, so
he's not in the Epstein files. He's not a pedophile.
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How does Elon? What's he gonna say? I said that
in anger? Like, just think about it? So what when
are you an anger? When are you not an anger?
When can we take you seriously?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
When are you lying? When are you not lying? I
don't know. It's one thing. Also, Ellie, when you say
something in like most family fights, it's in private, it's
behind closed doors. Ah okay, but this is an open
public feud. They didn't you know, it wasn't on the phone,
them yelling and screaming at each other. And how do
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I say this?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You know?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Reporters said, Oh, sources are saying they had an argument,
and here's what was allegedly said. No, this is it's
on act. I mean, there it is. And then Elon
puts a video after he makes this outrageous, explosive accusation
to me, you know, outside of he raped a woman,
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I don't know what's worse. He's diddling a minor, you know,
an underage girl. So he and then he puts out
a video and people are looking at him, like, are
you on drugs? It's a nineteen ninety two party. It's
a public party. Cameras are everywhere, it's no secret. And
it's Epstein with these NFL cheerleaders, and Trump is there,
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you know, in a suit, and he's you know, he's
dancing and he's snapping his fingers and boogeying. And but
these are all grown up women. I mean they're clearly.
I mean they're like I said, they're under twenties, easy, easy,
So these are all adults. So that's not the island.
That's not underage girls. That's not so what I'm sa
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saying is this, Elie, When you make this kind of
a slanderous, definite, defamatory accusation, how do you how do
you walk it back? Unless it was Elon going to grovel?
Is he long going to say, hey, I was on
my you know, I was off my meds. Is he
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long going to say I was on too much ketamine?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
How I for Elon to say have any credibility left?
I don't see how the two patch things up.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Ellie?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Hmm, it's a pickle that that is for sure? What
what they should do is just privately call each other,
talk it out and decide what you're gonna say to
the media. You know, you know, work it out. I know,
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saying those things are really really bad. That's really low blow.
And it's like everybody in the planet I think has
met up with you know, what's his name, Epstein, you know,
because everybody rubbed elbows with him. You know, some people
are innocent and some some people are not. But yeah,
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I know that was a low blow. But what they
should do is just call each other privately, work it out,
and you know, try to because I still I believe
that these two have affection for each other, and it's
it's just the emotion behind the heart. And if they're
just lashing out bam bam bam, it's like, knock it off.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
It's it kind of screwed things up because it turned
into like a father's son relationship when it's it should
have been employee employer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're right, you nailed it. You nailed it. You nailed it.
It got too personal, it got too close. And look,
this is an open secret. Elon has said this, so
I'm not saying anything out of school. Elon has had
a horrible relationship with his father. In fact, let me
just say this, Just look up Elon's dad. You want
to talk about the father from hell, you want to
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talk about really seriously an s ob okay with a
capital S, capital O, capital B. That's Elon's dad. And
you can see that. So basically, I mean, he's got
a father, but he doesn't have a father, if you
know what I mean. So you can see with Elon,
if you can just tell, Trump almost became like a father,
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like the father I never really had. So there was almost, like,
as you put it, a father son relationship. And in
a sense, it's beautiful, it's nice, it's it's great, you know,
it's it's a wonderful thing. But when you start mixing
it with the job, with Doge, with the administration, with politics, look,
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it's a mess. That's the problem. It's a mess. And
you're right, they have to talk to each other. I
think they have to make up, and I like the way,
you know, their formula. Just make up like in a family.
And then we'll decide, we'll worry about what we tell
the public. You know, we'll come up with some way,
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you know, we'll just try to patch this up and
say face and let's just move forward. So I hope
that's what happens. Ellie, thank you very much for that call.
Let me ask all of you this and again, Look,
maybe I'm taking things too seriously. Again, maybe that's me
my upbringing. I don't know. I look at both men,
and honestly, I'm a little disappointed in Bothay, now you
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know where I stand. I mean, you know, I think
Elon crossed the line. I believe fundamentally Elon is in
the wrong, not on the substance. I think the pork
and the spending was a valid, genuine criticism and you
can agree to disagree, and I think it's good to
have a good, robust debate. I don't think that's bad.
It's the personal attacks that I thought were WHOA, that's
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really below the belt. Okay, But I gotta say this,
This is much bigger than these two men. You know,
I'm not exaggerating the fate of the countries hanging in
the balance. Like guys, I'm sorry, but this is not
about you or your relationship, or your ego or who
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betrayed who. We've got Americans who are hurting. We need
this economy to take off. We've got Americans who are
because of Biden in particular, are living hand to mouth
check to check, like they need this bill to be passed.
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We're flooded and invaded by illegals. Ice cannot even do
three thousand deportations a day because they don't have the
manpower and the resources. This bill will give them the
man power they need. We're talking about saving American lives
and saving our country. We're in a very dangerous world now.
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We need this global dome, this missile defense shield. What
I'm saying is there are so many important things in
this bill that we need to save our country. And
Trump is facing a rebellion from the federal judiciary. These
rogue judges. You got the Democrats now, if they win
the midterms, are going to impeach him, and god forbid,
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maybe even take back power and finish the country off.
Like I'm looking at both of them, I'm like, guys, Ah,
who's right, who's wrong? Who stobbed?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Who?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Who didn't stob Who who betrayed? Who who didn't betray?
Come on, what is wrong with you? We've got a
country to save for God's sake, and look, make no
mistake about it. This is Maga's last chance. This is now,
whether we like it or not, because of the alliance
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that these two men formed, for better or for worse,
we have a Maga president, we have a Maga House
and a Maga Senate. I notice a lot of rhinos.
But the fact of the matter is the country now,
says Maga is running the country. Yeah, you ask most
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ordinary people, you go, who's in power, and they said, well, no,
it's Trump, It's America first, it's Maga. He Trump endorsed
Speaker Mike Johnson, he endorsed John Thune. John Thune came
out and said, we're gonna deliver on this big, beautiful bill.
We're delivering for Trump. Johnson, We're gonna deliver for Trump
his campaign promises, we're gonna put him in the bill.
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So what I'm saying is whatever criticisms, and you know,
I have many criticisms of the bill, the the fact
of the matter is this bill has got to pass.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Think of the perception if this completely unravels, because remember
what Elon is saying, it's not just a cheap shot
and another cheap shot. What he's saying is it's either
me or Trump. As he put it on X. Not
only does Trump have to be impeached, he said, we
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need a whole new political party with me as its leader.
It's a complete defection and revolt against MAGA. And he's saying, remember,
if you want to read you the the tweet directly,
Trump's only going to be around for three and a
half years. He put it three point five years. I'm
(31:47):
going to be around for forty plus years. So it's
either him or me choose wisely. Now, let me tell you,
the country sees you guys are shooting at each other.
You guys are bitterly divided. You guys can't even pass
(32:08):
a bill. It looks dysfunctional, It looks fractured, It looks
frankly at times, almost comedic, like a clown show. And
if we blow this, the country is not gonna trust
MAGA ever again. So I'm looking at this and I'm like,
(32:31):
the stakes could not be higher. Shut up and get
the damn bill passed. I'd like it with a lot
more spending cuts. If you can't do the spending cuts,
then do them later, but past the damn bill.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Instead.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Elon has said kill the bill and essentially kill Trump's
presidency again. I don't know how you bridge that. I
mean superficially, yes, okay, Elon, I accept your apology whatever, Okay.
In other words, look, I'm gonna stop bashing you. Please
(33:13):
don't take away my government contracts and my government subsidies. Okay, Okay,
So I'm not gonna hurt you financially. I'm want to
stop burning you to the ground verbally, rhetorically, and let's
just pretend none of this happened.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So superficially you can patch it up. I don't know
how in reality you can ever really come back. But
the bigger issue is what's gonna happen to the bill? Now,
let's really think about it. Can they salvage the bill?
Or has too much damage now been done? And make
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no mistake about it. If this bill goes down, Trump's
presidency is in free fall. The Dems and the media
will be dancing on Trump's political grave six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. He will not
have been able to deliver his seminal campaign promises. That's
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what's at stake. Agree, disagree six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight eight o'clock ish Friday. You know,
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Speaker 1 (34:41):
I can hear you? Can you hear me? Thanks for
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Speaker 9 (34:46):
I read a book in high school. They had a
character Most the village idiot. I mean, that's what we're
dealing with is a dual reality, and the premise of
this character was he would come back to the village and.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Say, hey, this is what's going on.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
The rallying up Jewish people and they're caddling into camps,
and everybody would be like, you're just the village idiot.
What do you know?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Da da da da da.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
And to me, that's what's been going on.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
China's declared unrestricted.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
War with US.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Bottom line comes down to this, and that's why I
brought that Most character up. How do you teach someone hardship.
We've been so indifferent as a country for so long,
and the local person is thinking about the next tattoo.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And you know, just stupidity.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
They don't understand. They're not worried about the next food,
or taking care of their family, or taking and raising
their own kids. I don't know how you change that.
In our culture, everybody's looking at the phone. They're worried
about modaine things that really don't matter it to anything
in terms of survival. And I don't know how you
correct it, but they've declared war on us. And like
it or not, what we decide to do, we decide
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to do.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
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Speaker 1 (36:17):
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the business, Steve and Quinsey. Thanks for holding Steve and welcome.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Yeah, good morning, jeffst. When it comes to musk Okay,
he's brilliant in business, but socially he's like a little kid.
And I realized this when Trump was having all these rallies.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What did much do?
Speaker 7 (36:44):
When it comes on the stage, he's jumping around like
little kid, hands up. You would never think he was
the richest man in the world. You know, look at me,
I'm great and all this stuff. He needs the attention
he never got before and now everything is he wants
(37:04):
to go his way. He rebels like a little kid.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And this is what.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Happens if he apologizes and tells Trump I never got
this much attention before and and I hope you can
forgive me and let's pass that bill and make America
great again.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But that was the key.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
I thought it was awful, weird jumping on the stage
like a little kid, which tells you socially he's not there.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Oh that's a great point. And I mean, you know,
he'd have these crazy, funky sunglasses. You're right. Do you
remember the one where he took out a chainsaw. He
put on these sunglasses. They're indoors and I know he
was trying to imitate Malay, the leader of Argentina. But
he's like, he's got these goofy sunglasses. He has this chainsaw,
(38:00):
and like me, you're like, socially likely, like, dude, you're
the richest man in the world. Like what are you?
My Ashton, like my son would do something like this
and think it's cool, you know what I mean, It's
just yeah, I think, Look, I think Steve. I think
(38:21):
if he calls and says, hey, look, you know, I'm sorry,
it all got to my head, you know, I just
I you know, I lose my mind sometimes. And you know,
you're like a second father to me. And I just
feel really hurt, and you know, I'm sorry, and you know, look,
I'm you know, I got asbergers. I don't want else
to tell you. And you know, I hope Trump is
(38:41):
the bigger man, and says, okay, elon, for the good
of the country, for the good of MAGA, you know,
to make America great again. Let's just forget this never happened.
And honestly, Steve, you know, Mike is saying, Jeff, things
are so crazy right now. He goes, I wouldn't be
shocked if by Monday that not only have they patched
(39:06):
everything up, but you may see you on back in
the cabinet or at the cabinet meetings.
Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. The there
are some media outlets, some that are reporting that it
appears that aids close to Trump and to Elon are
(00:20):
hoping for some kind of a possible detonte. They are
saying there could be a truce phone call between the
two men later today. We shall see, uh. But anyway,
just so that you know, there is work being done
behind the scenes to try to have both men bury
the hatchet. Hopefully they will, but with this this volatile relationship,
(00:45):
who knows what the hell's gonna happen. Six one seven
two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay.
This is from Sharon, and she's making a point that
many of you and Cooner Country are making. And that's
why I want to give it as much exposure as
I can, because I want to represent all possible sides,
(01:09):
voices and angles in this, you know, in this massive
feud between Trump and Elon, which is clearly the biggest
story in the world, there's no question. Good morning, Jeff,
Well good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Sharon.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I have a slightly different take on Elon's behavior. I'm
not excusing Elon crossing the line, but I think what
we witnessed yesterday is emotional disregulation on full display. People
with Aspergers, and Elon has aspergers, typically do not apply
(01:45):
quote unquote filters or know when to stop when they
respond in anger. I also think Elon experienced friendship positive
reinforcement with Trump in a personal life, and I agree
with Trump and you that he misses it and he
(02:06):
doesn't know how to process that loss. So now this
is interesting. So what Sharon is saying is, look, it's
partly the ass burgers. There's no filter, and many of
you are saying that, and when they get angry, they
just they get worse and worse and worse, and they
just start to lash out. In other words, it's irrational.
(02:28):
At a certain point, it becomes irrational. But the other
point is no, Look, he's generally an isolated guy. By
his own admission, he's socially very awkward, has been his
entire life. In some sense, he's almost half mature.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Trump says he's half genius, half boy. Trump says that
about him all the time he goes There's no question
the guy's IQ is off the charts. There's no question
he's a brilliant entrepreneur, inventor, businessman, but he says I
don't get a lot of his humor. Trump has often
said that it's like he's a bit boyish, like a
(03:07):
bit immature in some in some levels, in some ways.
So and what Sharon is saying is Elon really connected
with Trump, really forged a personal bond. So it's not
even so much the attention, the glamour, the spotlight being
(03:28):
at the center of it all, although that may be
part of it. It's also I had a lot of
fun with Trump. We really bonded, we really connected. Now
that's gone, and with Asberger's it almost feels like a
personal betrayal and a deep personal loss. There's something about
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Elon's response. It's just it's off kilter. You're like, whoa, whoa,
It's just you're you're going on, going off the rails,
like whoa, what?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Impeach?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What a new political party?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
He's in the Epstein files. What it's all going to
come out. The truth is going to come out, Mark
this post. He's in the Epstein files, and that's why
they don't want to release it. So he's gone from
a you know, zero to one hundred miles per hour
in eighteen hours in two days. So again, I don't
(04:29):
know if it's the drugs. I don't know if it's
the aspergers. I don't know what it is. But yeah,
I think they should have a phone call. I don't
know at this point would you make up with him?
I mean maybe superficially, but I don't know how you
walk any of this back. Six one seven two six
(04:51):
six sixty eight sixty eight. Harry in Maine. Thanks for
holding Harry, and welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Good morning. I've got so much to unload here. I'll
try to make it as consolidated and concise as I can.
One thing I want to get off my mind quickly
is get on the record quickly, is that I don't
agree that Trump should have used the term trumps arrangement
syndrome in this instance. I think it triggered the whole thing.
There are other ways he could have handled it, and
(05:21):
the example could be there are several Republicans who Trump
gets along with Rick Scott to a degree, Ran Paul,
and there's others that don't support this bill the way
it is currently structured. Ron Johnson included, but there's no
way that he's going, you know, off the rails with
these folks. He's handling it professionally, and he's sticking to
his point. The second thing I want to say is
(05:43):
you mentioned earlier in the show how much Elon has contributed.
No doubt, he did an unbelievable job explaining it, and
we shouldn't forget that, we shouldn't disregard it. But Trump
has also given up a lot. The guy's been attempted
to be assassinated twice in the head. His brand took
a major beaten from twenty fifteen right up until now,
(06:07):
and he suffered financially as well as personally. So as
far as you know, who sacrifice what Trump's right up there.
He hasn't taken a paycheck from the government as well.
You asked earlier to Jeff, who do I support? This
is simple whose name was on the ballot. I didn't
vote for Elon Musk. I voted for President Donald J. Trump.
(06:29):
This is his agenda, this is his legacy. That's at stake.
We the people voted for his agenda. He controls his
own legacy. Now he's going to make the decisions he
feels that need to be made to pull us out
of the ruck that we're in domestically and internationally. So
I'm going to let the guy do what he needs
(06:49):
to do. I'm going to let the man do what
he thinks is right, and then history will tell us
whether he was right or wrong. But I'm not going
to pull the rug from under him. I support him
one hundred and ten and I think the American people
should rally behind that. One other final point last night,
Nukeenrich made a great point about this whole situation. His
(07:10):
analogy was that Elon Musk. He said it very nicely.
He just said, it's a tempa tantrum and he needs
to basically grow up and get himself back in the
saddle and get his mind in his head in the
right spot and you know, move on. But all this
stuff about the Epstein file and so forths all flassical
and at the end of the day, Jeff, you put
(07:30):
this woman, Sharon, I think she she stated very very
nicely in the text that you just read, this could
be something that is just a little bit beyondest you know,
Musk's control. I'm not going to, you know, speculate whether
he's on drugs or whatever, but certainly people with the condition.
And I'm not an expert on Asperger, but certainly with
that type of condition. You know, No, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Trump versus Elon the bromance. Oh boy, it's over two
six six is the number? Okay? Let me ask all
of you. Should Elon issue a public apology to Trump?
I mean, especially after the whole Epstein files. He's in
(08:15):
him and that's why they don't want to release them.
And trust me, market you know you'll see this post
is true. Should Musk be forced to issue a public
apology after calling for the impeachment of the president, saying
that the president would never have been elected without Elon
and that it's time to form a completely new political
(08:38):
party with essentially Elon as the titular head, and to
lead a revolt against the Trump administration now if not,
if he doesn't issue an apology, should Trump ask for
the keys to the White House to be returned if
(09:01):
if you remember, you know they did when he sent
give him his beautiful send off just last week. Here
are the keys and you can You're always welcome here, Elon.
So what do you think Trump should should Trump? I
mean personally if I was Trump, I want the keys back.
That's what I would be talking on. You know, if
they're gonna have their phone call today, I'd be like, Elon,
(09:23):
send me the keys back, please, or I'm gonna change
the locks. Yeah, change the locks. You know, So Elon,
give me the keys back, or I'm changing the locks.
But that's that's me. Six one seven two six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Uh okay, very
(09:45):
quickly listen now to Trump attacking Elon yesterday, it was
still somewhat civil. It was more the policy of the bill,
the motivations behind trum Elon's opposition to the bill.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I e.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
That Trump took out or the bill takes out billions
of dollars in credits and in subsidies for electrical vehicles,
EV batteries and solar panels. Roll cut one a mike.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And you know, Elon's upset because we took the EV
mandate and you know, which was a lot of money
for electric vehicles. And you know, they having a hard
time the electric vehicles, and they want us to pay
billions of dollars in subsidy. And you know, I Elon
knew this from the beginning. He knew it for a
long time ago. That's been in there, that's been I
(10:41):
would say, JD. That hasn't changed, that's been right for
the beginning. Mister I think, mister secretary, that hasn't changed
it right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But I know that it disturbed him. He wanted and rightfully,
you know he so basically you know he's saying, that's
why he's so upset. So in other words, this is
personal for Elon, it's financial, it's monetary. Now to me,
this is what Elon now needs to answer. You're now
(11:10):
claiming that he's in the Epstein files and that's why
they're not being released, and that eventually they will come
out that Trump essentially was diddling underage girls. That's his argument. Well,
you knew this before, so why As an example, when
(11:31):
this was when he was at Doge working for Trump,
riding high just a few months ago. Here's what he
said about the president. Then this is on Fox roll
cut for b Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I think President Trump is a good man. The President
has been so unfailure attacked in the media. It's truly outrageous.
And I've spent at this point, I spent a lot
of time with President and not once have I seen
him do something that was mean or cruel or own.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Hello really, hell, hello, Now you want him impeached? Now
the guy's a pedophile.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Look, either you're lying or you're just looking now to
go for his throat and you're just gonna you know,
you're defaming the guy. It's just slanderous libel after slanderous libel.
But I think there's no question he has stabbed Trump
in the back. Now, to be fair, now both men are,
you know, starting to spit on each other. But it
(12:42):
wasn't always like this. Now this is just a recent montage.
I'm not talking about you know, during the election or
six months ago or you know, like this is just
seven days ago, last week. Listen, now this is Trump
an Elon World cut four C Mike.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
To be joined tonight by one of the people who
is going to help us build this incredible future. And
he is a truly incredible guy.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And his name is Elon Musk.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
President Trump must win to preserve the Constitution. He must
win to preserve democracy in America.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Do we have a new star? A star is born?
Elan I love Tesler is doing with dray Job he's
finding tremendous fraud and corruption and waste.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor
to the president.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It was a bit of a different cut. I wanted
to play the montage of their meeting last Friday where
they were just slapping each other on the back, but
still fine. So this is them over the last couple
of months, just during the election. After the election, you
could see the bromance. It just kept going, going and
going and going and going. And then it went from
(14:03):
in three days to I don't like the bill, to
kill the bill to impeach Trump, to now the guy's
a pedophile six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight Mark in Medford. Thanks for holding Mark, and welcome.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Good morning, Jeff. First of all, I just want to
make it clear I think if you or I were
on the ticket, we were to beat Tommala and tampon.
Tim just saying it because I still don't believe Kamala
got the votes that she really got. So but let's
but as you would say, let that go, okay, Jeff,
I'm I'm a little disappointed with Elon. I wrote this
(14:43):
down in a message just the case I didn't get
on the air with you. And first of all, Elon
knew that Trump was going to reverse the easy mandates.
He campaigned on it. So I don't know where he's
coming from with this, with this nonsense, okay. And as
far as Trump not showing gratitude, Jeff Trump has showed
tremendous gratitude to Elon and his family. I mean he
(15:07):
included him in many situations, in many meetings where Trump
really didn't have to, he didn't want to, Okay, And
this is how he acts. Yeah, I think there's a
little something off with Elon. Maybe he needs to hup
his dose on his medication. I don't know. And thirdly,
you accuse him of being on the island. Well, Jeff,
(15:30):
in all honesty, if he thought for one second, if
he thought for one second that Trump was on that
island he wanted to lift a finger to help him
with his campaign, with Dode or anything else. He's lying,
And yes he does owe the President of the United
States an apology.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know you're dead on Mark. That's why I said,
I think Elon's lying. He just made that up just
to hurt Trump. He got personal, he got vish, and
he just started to lash out, and what's the way
I can hurt him the most, accuse him of being
on the island. And look, I just want to read
the tweet that he sent out and this is exactly
(16:13):
what he said on X Really I could when he
When I read it, I couldn't believe it. So here's
what he wrote. This is Elon Musk time to drop
the really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in
the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have
not been made public. Have a nice day DJT. And
(16:36):
then he followed that up with Mark this down. This
will be proven true in the future. Mark, I'm with you,
he Owes, I'm sorry, he Owes the president and apology.
And of course the Dems and the media are salivating now.
(16:56):
They're they're they're wrapping Epstein around Trump's Let me throw
another super small log on the fire, as I like
to say, now that we've seen this ugly public feud
between Elon and Trump, especially a lot of this stuff
that Elon, the personal stuff, the defamation, the slander that
(17:22):
Elon has now leveled against Trump, Have you lost some
respect for Elon? Have you lost some respect for Trump?
I'm just curious, has either man been reduced in your eyes?
Or do you just see this as some of you do.
(17:45):
These are two alpha males, There are two big dogs.
As they say, these are two business titans. One is
a political force of nature. Elon is the wealthiest man
in the world. This is what you get, you know.
These are men with big egos, big personalities. They're gonna clash,
(18:06):
They're gonna fight, then they make up, then they fight
and then they make up that. In other words, ultimately,
this is much ado about nothing. Or do you think
this has hurt their public image and their credibility at
least the way you see them. I'm just curious. Six
(18:29):
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Ellie
in Worcester. Thanks for holding Ellie and welcome.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Hey buddy, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ellie?
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Pretty good? I have a take on this. I don't
know if you'll agree or not, but these are the
reactions of two men who love each other and have
affection for each other. He gave him the key to
a wife. I mean, it seems like they had built
(19:03):
up this father son relationship, you know, and they The
hurt is always more intense when you get hurt feelings.
If you've ever dealt with family members, the viciousness could
get pretty bad because there's hurt involved, hurt feelings because
(19:25):
you love someone and have affection for them. I think
that they had a father dad relationship. I mean he
was there in the office, just like little John John
was with President Kennedy, you know, and he had affection
for his you know, Elon's son. You know, you can't
(19:48):
be an employee employer and father son image and not
have some clashes. I think the two got mixed up,
and I think that they should just you know, kiss
and make up, because it's obvious to me that they
they love each other and they have great effects for
(20:10):
each other. But just like family members, the same thing
that could get pretty vicious with each other. You know,
I've seen it happen a million times.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because oh no, no, I agree with you. You're completely right, Absolutely,
you're completely right. My question is this, Look, I get it,
family fights. It can get really ugly, very you know, nasty, vicious.
But calling a guy a pedophile, what I'm saying is
there's certain lines, you know, to me, you just don't cross, now,
(20:46):
you know, if you have evidence, And that's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Grace made this point to me as well. She said, look,
if he really has evidence, then be a man and
show it. If you're saying that Trump is in the
Epstein files and you know this for sure, and you're
gonna be vindicated on this, mark this post. You know
I'll be proven true in the future. Well then if
(21:09):
you got it, show it. But don't accuse and tease
and intimate, not on something like this. So what I'm
saying is this, Ellie, I get it. You know, I
hate you, you know or whatever. You know, you're a
jerk or whatever. If you say things in anger with
(21:30):
family you don't really mean, or you just want to
hurt them because your feelings are hurt. But ay ya yai,
you know, I mean, look, let's just play this out
just for the sake of argument, Elie. They call and
they make up what do they say?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Really like Okay, So you're gonna be in front of
the media. The media is going to ask the obvious question,
do you still think Trump should be impeached?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Do you still what about your call for a political party?
Political party that represents eighty percent of Americans in the
middle In other words, people should break away from Trump's
Republican Party. You still yeah? And yes, no, okay, so
he's not in the Epstein files. He's not a pedophile.
(22:17):
How does Elon? What's he gonna say? I said that
in anger? Like, just think about it? So what when
are you an anger? When are you not an anger?
When can we take you seriously?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
So?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
When are you lying? When are you not lying? I
don't know. It's one thing. Also, Ellie, when you say
something in like most family fights, it's in private, it's
behind closed doors. Ah okay, but this is an open
public feud. They didn't you know, it wasn't on the phone,
them yelling and screaming at each other. And how do
(22:52):
I say this?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You know?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Reporters said, Oh, sources are saying they had an argument,
and here's what was allegedly said. No, this is it's
on act. I mean, there it is. And then Elon
puts a video after he makes this outrageous, explosive accusation
to me, you know, outside of he raped a woman,
(23:16):
I don't know what's worse. He's diddling a minor, you know,
an underage girl. So he and then he puts out
a video and people are looking at him, like, are
you on drugs? It's a nineteen ninety two party. It's
a public party. Cameras are everywhere, it's no secret. And
it's Epstein with these NFL cheerleaders, and Trump is there,
(23:38):
you know, in a suit, and he's you know, he's
dancing and he's snapping his fingers and boogeying. And but
these are all grown up women. I mean they're clearly.
I mean they're like I said, they're under twenties, easy, easy,
So these are all adults. So that's not the island.
That's not underage girls. That's not so what I'm sa
(24:00):
saying is this, Elie, When you make this kind of
a slanderous, definite, defamatory accusation, how do you how do
you walk it back? Unless it was Elon going to grovel?
Is he long going to say, hey, I was on
my you know, I was off my meds. Is he
(24:21):
long going to say I was on too much ketamine?
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
How I for Elon to say have any credibility left?
I don't see how the two patch things up.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Ellie?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Hmm, it's a pickle that that is for sure? What
what they should do is just privately call each other,
talk it out and decide what you're gonna say to
the media. You know, you know, work it out. I know,
(24:57):
saying those things are really really bad. That's really low blow.
And it's like everybody in the planet I think has
met up with you know, what's his name, Epstein, you know,
because everybody rubbed elbows with him. You know, some people
are innocent and some some people are not. But yeah,
(25:18):
I know that was a low blow. But what they
should do is just call each other privately, work it out,
and you know, try to because I still I believe
that these two have affection for each other, and it's
it's just the emotion behind the heart. And if they're
just lashing out bam bam bam, it's like, knock it off.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
It's it kind of screwed things up because it turned
into like a father's son relationship when it's it should
have been employee employer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're right, you nailed it. You nailed it. You nailed it.
It got too personal, it got too close. And look,
this is an open secret. Elon has said this, so
I'm not saying anything out of school. Elon has had
a horrible relationship with his father. In fact, let me
just say this, Just look up Elon's dad. You want
to talk about the father from hell, you want to
(26:18):
talk about really seriously an s ob okay with a
capital S, capital O, capital B. That's Elon's dad. And
you can see that. So basically, I mean, he's got
a father, but he doesn't have a father, if you
know what I mean. So you can see with Elon,
if you can just tell, Trump almost became like a father,
(26:39):
like the father I never really had. So there was almost, like,
as you put it, a father son relationship. And in
a sense, it's beautiful, it's nice, it's it's great, you know,
it's it's a wonderful thing. But when you start mixing
it with the job, with Doge, with the administration, with politics, look,
(27:01):
it's a mess. That's the problem. It's a mess. And
you're right, they have to talk to each other. I
think they have to make up, and I like the way,
you know, their formula. Just make up like in a family.
And then we'll decide, we'll worry about what we tell
the public. You know, we'll come up with some way,
(27:22):
you know, we'll just try to patch this up and
say face and let's just move forward. So I hope
that's what happens. Ellie, thank you very much for that call.
Let me ask all of you this and again, Look,
maybe I'm taking things too seriously. Again, maybe that's me
my upbringing. I don't know. I look at both men,
and honestly, I'm a little disappointed in Bothay, now you
(27:44):
know where I stand. I mean, you know, I think
Elon crossed the line. I believe fundamentally Elon is in
the wrong, not on the substance. I think the pork
and the spending was a valid, genuine criticism and you
can agree to disagree, and I think it's good to
have a good, robust debate. I don't think that's bad.
It's the personal attacks that I thought were WHOA, that's
(28:08):
really below the belt. Okay, But I gotta say this,
This is much bigger than these two men. You know,
I'm not exaggerating the fate of the countries hanging in
the balance. Like guys, I'm sorry, but this is not
about you or your relationship, or your ego or who
(28:31):
betrayed who. We've got Americans who are hurting. We need
this economy to take off. We've got Americans who are
because of Biden in particular, are living hand to mouth
check to check, like they need this bill to be passed.
(28:54):
We're flooded and invaded by illegals. Ice cannot even do
three thousand deportations a day because they don't have the
manpower and the resources. This bill will give them the
man power they need. We're talking about saving American lives
and saving our country. We're in a very dangerous world now.
(29:16):
We need this global dome, this missile defense shield. What
I'm saying is there are so many important things in
this bill that we need to save our country. And
Trump is facing a rebellion from the federal judiciary. These
rogue judges. You got the Democrats now, if they win
the midterms, are going to impeach him, and god forbid,
(29:40):
maybe even take back power and finish the country off.
Like I'm looking at both of them, I'm like, guys, Ah,
who's right, who's wrong? Who stobbed?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Who?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Who didn't stob Who who betrayed? Who who didn't betray?
Come on, what is wrong with you? We've got a
country to save for God's sake, and look, make no
mistake about it. This is Maga's last chance. This is now,
whether we like it or not, because of the alliance
(30:13):
that these two men formed, for better or for worse,
we have a Maga president, we have a Maga House
and a Maga Senate. I notice a lot of rhinos.
But the fact of the matter is the country now,
says Maga is running the country. Yeah, you ask most
(30:35):
ordinary people, you go, who's in power, and they said, well, no,
it's Trump, It's America first, it's Maga. He Trump endorsed
Speaker Mike Johnson, he endorsed John Thune. John Thune came
out and said, we're gonna deliver on this big, beautiful bill.
We're delivering for Trump. Johnson, We're gonna deliver for Trump
his campaign promises, we're gonna put him in the bill.
(30:55):
So what I'm saying is whatever criticisms, and you know,
I have many criticisms of the bill, the the fact
of the matter is this bill has got to pass.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Think of the perception if this completely unravels, because remember
what Elon is saying, it's not just a cheap shot
and another cheap shot. What he's saying is it's either
me or Trump. As he put it on X. Not
only does Trump have to be impeached, he said, we
(31:25):
need a whole new political party with me as its leader.
It's a complete defection and revolt against MAGA. And he's saying, remember,
if you want to read you the the tweet directly,
Trump's only going to be around for three and a
half years. He put it three point five years. I'm
(31:47):
going to be around for forty plus years. So it's
either him or me choose wisely. Now, let me tell you,
the country sees you guys are shooting at each other.
You guys are bitterly divided. You guys can't even pass
(32:08):
a bill. It looks dysfunctional, It looks fractured, It looks
frankly at times, almost comedic, like a clown show. And
if we blow this, the country is not gonna trust
MAGA ever again. So I'm looking at this and I'm like,
(32:31):
the stakes could not be higher. Shut up and get
the damn bill passed. I'd like it with a lot
more spending cuts. If you can't do the spending cuts,
then do them later, but past the damn bill.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Instead.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Elon has said kill the bill and essentially kill Trump's
presidency again. I don't know how you bridge that. I
mean superficially, yes, okay, Elon, I accept your apology whatever, Okay.
In other words, look, I'm gonna stop bashing you. Please
(33:13):
don't take away my government contracts and my government subsidies. Okay, Okay,
So I'm not gonna hurt you financially. I'm want to
stop burning you to the ground verbally, rhetorically, and let's
just pretend none of this happened.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So superficially you can patch it up. I don't know
how in reality you can ever really come back. But
the bigger issue is what's gonna happen to the bill? Now,
let's really think about it. Can they salvage the bill?
Or has too much damage now been done? And make
(33:49):
no mistake about it. If this bill goes down, Trump's
presidency is in free fall. The Dems and the media
will be dancing on Trump's political grave six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. He will not
have been able to deliver his seminal campaign promises. That's
(34:13):
what's at stake. Agree, disagree six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight eight o'clock ish Friday. You know,
what that means Caller of the Week Cooner's Call Log.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
It's time for Cooner's Call Log, where we showcase our
favorite color from the week.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I can hear you? Can you hear me? Thanks for
holding George.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
I read a book in high school. They had a
character Most the village idiot. I mean, that's what we're
dealing with is a dual reality, and the premise of
this character was he would come back to the village and.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Say, hey, this is what's going on.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
The rallying up Jewish people and they're caddling into camps,
and everybody would be like, you're just the village idiot.
What do you know?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Da da da da da.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
And to me, that's what's been going on.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
China's declared unrestricted.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
War with US.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Bottom line comes down to this, and that's why I
brought that Most character up. How do you teach someone hardship.
We've been so indifferent as a country for so long,
and the local person is thinking about the next tattoo.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And you know, just stupidity.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
They don't understand. They're not worried about the next food,
or taking care of their family, or taking and raising
their own kids. I don't know how you change that.
In our culture, everybody's looking at the phone. They're worried
about modaine things that really don't matter it to anything
in terms of survival. And I don't know how you
correct it, but they've declared war on us. And like
it or not, what we decide to do, we decide
(35:48):
to do.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
To be here every weekday on the Cooner Report between
six and ten am. And next week it could be
you on Cooner's call log.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Please don't be a stranger. Call again. Best audience in
the business, Steve and Quinsey. Thanks for holding Steve and welcome.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Yeah, good morning, jeffst. When it comes to musk Okay,
he's brilliant in business, but socially he's like a little kid.
And I realized this when Trump was having all these rallies.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What did much do?
Speaker 7 (36:44):
When it comes on the stage, he's jumping around like
little kid, hands up. You would never think he was
the richest man in the world. You know, look at me,
I'm great and all this stuff. He needs the attention
he never got before and now everything is he wants
(37:04):
to go his way. He rebels like a little kid.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And this is what.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Happens if he apologizes and tells Trump I never got
this much attention before and and I hope you can
forgive me and let's pass that bill and make America
great again.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But that was the key.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
I thought it was awful, weird jumping on the stage
like a little kid, which tells you socially he's not there.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Oh that's a great point. And I mean, you know,
he'd have these crazy, funky sunglasses. You're right. Do you
remember the one where he took out a chainsaw. He
put on these sunglasses. They're indoors and I know he
was trying to imitate Malay, the leader of Argentina. But
he's like, he's got these goofy sunglasses. He has this chainsaw,
(38:00):
and like me, you're like, socially likely, like, dude, you're
the richest man in the world. Like what are you?
My Ashton, like my son would do something like this
and think it's cool, you know what I mean, It's
just yeah, I think, Look, I think Steve. I think
(38:21):
if he calls and says, hey, look, you know, I'm sorry,
it all got to my head, you know, I just
I you know, I lose my mind sometimes. And you know,
you're like a second father to me. And I just
feel really hurt, and you know, I'm sorry, and you know, look,
I'm you know, I got asbergers. I don't want else
to tell you. And you know, I hope Trump is
(38:41):
the bigger man, and says, okay, elon, for the good
of the country, for the good of MAGA, you know,
to make America great again. Let's just forget this never happened.
And honestly, Steve, you know, Mike is saying, Jeff, things
are so crazy right now. He goes, I wouldn't be
shocked if by Monday that not only have they patched
(39:06):
everything up, but you may see you on back in
the cabinet or at the cabinet meetings.
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