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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six x sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
lines are jammed. I want to go to the phone lines,
but I want to read this. Please, all of you
need to hear this. This is why I so strongly
support this executive order and why I really want to
see it codified into law. It's from Sharon. I want
(00:20):
to protect her privacy, so I won't say her last name.
Good morning, Jeff, Well, good morning to you, Sharon. Families
with children or even adults living with genetic or chronic disease,
Lowering the cost of RX drugs means the difference between
(00:41):
having to choose between medication or living expenses. Now listen
to this. Our sun has cystic fibrosis. I'm very sorry
to hear that, Sharon. And while the miracle drug has
been life changing, the cold each month is seven thousand
(01:03):
dollars Holy mackerel, and that is just one medication he
is on seven. We work with the manufacturer to get
copay assistance and with nonprofits for copay grants to make
the copay manageable. And while we are humbled and grateful
(01:26):
for the assistance, I cannot imagine what we would do
if we didn't have this help. The price of medication
is unsustainable, and I feel almost bad now, to be honest,
I'm being serious to talk about my insulin and my
(01:47):
met foreman and my you know, my blood pressure pills
and my cholesterol pills, and you know, complaining about you know,
two three hundred dollars a month, and I feel like
a jerk now, to be honest, you know, compared to this,
But that's what I mean. You start lowering prescription drugs
three four, five, six, seven times what you're paying now,
(02:11):
you're for some families it's thousands and thousands and thousands
of dollars a month, especially those with you know, genetic
or chronic conditions. It's the difference between life and death.
It's the difference between literally food or medications. That's why
I support this all the way. Agree, disagree. Mags in
(02:37):
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Mags and welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi Mags.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I know I've been missing to you. I've been listening,
but I haven't been calling. Well, I'm gonna tell you
I was somewhat calm until that text. Sharon, God bless
you and your family.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
This is so discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't even know like now what to say. I mean,
I'm blown away. And I'm also now realizing why all
of these people in our government are so wealthy, because
if somebody like that has to pay seven thousand dollars
cafe for one thing, one prescription drugs. We have total
(03:20):
rip bop issues between the governments ripping us off our
own government, which they're criminals, which I've been saying for years,
excuse me, and they are to be prosecuted. And I'm
going to tell you when we start prosecuting these people
that have been stealing for us on both sides of
the aisle, which is disgusting. Even worse, we will see
(03:42):
these things start to change because they can. They're not
gonna be able to take their money anymore, and these
people are gonna have to buck up. It's disgusting, Jeff,
I don't even know what to say anymore. I was
almost crying when you were reading that text.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's heartbreaking. And you know, Mags, I would love to
have Thune on this show. He wouldn't come on, he
wouldn't have the guts to come on, But I would
love to have Thune come on this show. I don't
care Schumer Pelosi, Hakim Jeffries, Mini, Mike Mike Johnson, I
don't care any of anyone in the leadership and read
that text and say, why is it too controversial for
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us to get most Favored Nation treatment for our citizens?
You can't pass a bill so in other countries because
we're subsidizing it, they can pay I don't know, five
hundred dollars for this medication, but here we have to
pay seven thousand dollars for this medication. So why do
you know? Why are citizens around the world more privileged
(04:44):
than us? Why are they Why are you willing to
give them deals that you wouldn't give to your own people?
And the answer is obvious, because they're all on the take.
They're all on the freaking take. Just follow the money.
And that's why I think they should be ashamed of themselves.
(05:05):
You know, when they steal, they're really stealing from us,
and they're stealing our children and our future. That's what
they're really doing. So Mags, look, I've got to ask you,
are we now starting to see a sea change in
the Republican Party. I'm not talking the leadership, obviously, but
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among Republican voters. Where we're now becoming the pro working class,
pro middle class party, where we want to give ordinary
Americans cheaper prescription drugs, lower energy, lower gas, lower grocery prices.
In other words, we're the party of the little person.
(05:50):
The Democrats and the establishment on the GOP side, they're
the party of the big, powerful interests. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You are one hundred percent right, But I'm going to
just phrase it a little bit differently, if you don't mind.
We are the people for this hundred the people that
want to see America thrive, do better. We need to
get rid of all these people that have been ripping
us off. Okay, it's time for them to go, go go.
I'm done, And I know a lot of people have
(06:21):
to be waking up because Trump is showing us on
both sides of the aisles. The Democrats and the Republicans
are both evil, and we need to get rid of
all of these people that are willing to screw us
and rip us off over and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, Jeff, drop the mic as usual, Mags, Please, you
gotta call them more often. Don't be a stranger. Six
to one, and thank you again for that call, Mags
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
let me ask you. Do you support Trump's executive order?
I'm just curious lowering or dramatically reducing prescription medications and
(07:03):
drug costs? Should it be made into law? And have
we been unfairly subsidizing and financially supporting healthcare systems socialist
healthcare systems all over the world? And does this need
to end? And above all, will cutting drug prices by three, four,
(07:30):
five times, basically cutting your drug product costs in half,
if not more. How much of a benefit is that
for you and your family? I am very sorry. I
don't know what else to say. I'm getting blown to
pieces on messenger, on email, on text. Jeff, you got
(07:53):
to take better care of your health. For God's sake.
This is ridiculous. How many medications you're on? Just being
honest with all of you, I'm not gonna pretend I'm
on one or two when I'm really on five or
six or maybe even seven.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know, Yes, I'm eating better, i am exercising more,
I'm watching what I eat, I'm watching my diet. But
you know, look, I don't want to have high blood pressure.
Call me crazy. That's why I take the blood pressure pills.
You know, I don't want my veins clogged with cholesterol. No,
I don't want to just drop dead of a stroke
or a heart attack. So I do take the anti
(08:29):
cholesterol medication. You know, I got type two diabetes. I
got to keep the sugar in line. I'm sorry, So
I take the met foreman and the insulin. Now would
I like to get off all of that? Of course
I'd love to, but you know I'm me, I'm not you.
I don't know what else to say. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
(08:51):
I drive by the Golden Arches and I start imagining
a big, juicy big Mac with extra sauce, large French
frut in a large dive coke, and something just overcomes me.
It's like a demon possessing me. I don't know what
else to tell you. I just turn the car around
and go through that drive through. You know I'm sorry.
(09:15):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
George in Malden. Thanks for holding George, and welcome.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Hey, Jiff. One of the things we could do is
why don't you get all the donations that these senators
and congress men take from the pharmacy pharmaceutical companies, and
that would help people understand who's getting what from who.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's a great point. And George, let me and let
me tell you what else they do. I promise I'll
let you finish, George. But this is another This is
the legalized This is the legal corruption. It's legal, but
it's corrupt.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What they also do, and they do it with the
big defense contractors as well, is that they put their spouses.
I'm just gonna give John Thune as an example. Now
I'm not saying he does it with big pharma, but
I'm saying this is I wouldn't be surprised if something
like this happened. You take Thune's wife and you put
her on the board of one of these big pharma companies,
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and so you pay her millions of dollars. So you
see the scam is well, it's like what Biden did, right.
You don't pay Biden, you don't pay the big guy.
You pay a family member. But of course it all
goes whatever the cut goes to the big guy. So
this is the racket in Congress. They have family members,
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spouses that they put on these boards. And that's where
they rake in millions and millions and millions. So the
money they say, oh no, no, it's not going to me,
it's one of my wife. Well yeah, but it's really
going to you. So that's Dick Morris talked about this
for decades and he said that's one of the biggest
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ways they get rich. The other thing that they do, George,
is very quick, is they pay you for a speech.
So it's not as if it's not a brown paper bag.
You know, here is I don't know, here's five hundred
thousand dollars, John, wink wink, you know which way we
want you to vote?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What they do is they'll say, no, John, in front
of this group, in front of this policy group, in
front of this organization, we would like for you to speak,
but of course your time is so valuable. So well,
you know, what do you charge one hundred thousand dollars
a speech? Well, we've got a couple of speaking engagements
lined up for you. And so he comes there, he
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bloviates for an hour and I'm not just picking on
Thune that that's the racket, that's they all do that,
And he picks up a couple hundred thousand dollars just
like this, and you know, a couple hundred thousand here,
a couple hundred thousand there, before you know it, you're
talking millions and millions. So that's the racket, George. It's
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not just the donation, which is you know, that's a
powerful incentive. It's the other things they do and then
you can't vote against them. I mean, they've got their
claws in you. And that Tom tillis by the way,
huge big pharma guy on the Republican side, huge McConnell.
Oh my god. It was legendary. It was legendary. You
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do have a few that buck the line. You know,
they bucked the trend. But George, I'm telling you can
kin him on two hands. And to be fair, some
are Democrats. This Roque Rocanna in California does not take
money from big Pharma. That's why he's the only one
with the bill. He can't get one Democrat or one
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Republican to join him. You have a Democrat and by
the way, he's a progressive Democrat. He's pretty much, you know,
pretty hard left, but he doesn't take pharma money. And
he's like, yeah, why don't we codify this should be
great and so far not one co sponsor, not one, George,
but I digress, Please go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I just feel that we've got to find a way
to have a law that Congress cannot do these things anymore.
At least there are some people out there stead are
publishing what Pelosi does in the stock market, and it's
got to be done, and we can't go along now.
I think the President ought to bludgeon these guys about
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their financing of me getting from Congress. Thanks a lot,
Thank you, George.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Great idea, great idea. And I'm going to try to
track down to get all the donations that Big Pharma
gives to Senators, Democrats, Republicans, Senate House. You're going to
be astonished, Jeff. I can't believe it. And they have
the most powerful lobbying firm in DC. People think it's
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the military industrial complex, very powerful, number two to Big Pharma.
No one has no one has that place locked down
better than Big Pharma. Maria in New Hampshire. Thanks for
holding Maria, and welcome.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Hi, good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
If you think about it, when has Congress ever passed
the law that benefits us the people and not them?
It either has to be that they can exempt themselves
from what they think is best for us, or they
don't pass anything. This we we you know, I've said
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this for a while now. We are the Hunger Games.
If you read that those books, that's exactly what we
live in. We pay for everything and they live their
best lives. No one gets into politics to help the people.
(15:05):
They get into politics to take from the people. And
we don't. We don't, we don't push anything.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
My husband is on a lot of medications also, and
we used to get it from Canada, but it got
too difficult to have our his doctor's right prescriptions to
get them from Canada on a regular basis, so we
came back to buying getting his medications here. But our
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politicians will tell you, oh, no, no, no, we're here
for you, but they're not. They get they get kickbacks
from everyone, and the United States pays for everyone, just
like we did with the COVID shot that Biden came
straight out and said, we the people are paying for
the entire world for all of their shots. Why is
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it that we have to give all of our money
to every hungry person on the planet. We have to
pay for settling everybody on the planet. We have to
pay for every time someone gets in a war. We
have to pay to rebuild their country, we have to
pay to help them fight. We have to pay for everything.
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No one gives us a break, and we don't demand it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Maria, you're on fire. Really, I got to tell you,
you're absolutely on fire. I think this could be the
call of the week. Really, this is out. I mean,
you're dead on and just to again, just all I
can do is add to what she said. You know,
I'm thinking as you when you said to me, have
they ever passed the bill? Have they ever passed the bill?
And I'm racking my brain, and I'm thinking, well, Trump
(16:47):
wanted the border wall. No, they wouldn't fund that, right,
I mean even now the mass deportations, they haven't passed
the bill to fund it. Trump says I need a
lot more resources. They're not passing that. So I'm just
thinking over the only thing, Maria is maybe the Trump
tax bill, you know, the and now the current his
big beautiful bill. Okay, this is from Seethin Open pronouncing
(17:11):
his name correctly on Messenger and here it is. Okay,
this is what they call drop the mic. This is
the checkmate argument, Jeff, the very same HIV medication in
India costs three hundred dollars in America. It costs three
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thousand dollars the exact same medication from the exact same
pharmaceutical company. There's nothing, there's nothing, There's not an iota
of difference. It's the exact same product, literally ten times
cheaper in India than it is here HIV. And Trump
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is saying, no, you're gonna charge India three hundred. You're
gonna charge American forgive me American consumers, Americans who need HIV,
you're gonna charge them three hundred. If three hundred is
good enough for a billion people at whatever billion sum
now in India, then it should be good enough for
the three hundred and forty million here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Period. Full stop.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
To me, there's no counter argument to this. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Wendy in Westford,
Thanks for holding Wendy, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Hi, Jeff. I'm a first time caller to you. All
the way called great one other time.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, Well, welcome, Wendy, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I listen to you every morning, but I was gonna
talk on both sides. Niche pharmaceuticals which aren't quite big,
but then they get caught, they get bought out by
Big BAMA and millions of dollars in research and development.
Then they have to go through study upon study worldwide
to bring it to market through FDA. It takes years.
(19:12):
Now I understand that they're really concerned because FDA has
seen a lot of job cuts in the worried it's
going to even take longer. However, I also and I
can't reference the study, but I heard a study had
taken place within the last year that said the cost
growing up in the United States is because of the
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layers of bureaucracy and middlemen that are just pushing costs
higher and higher BIRTHUS the other countries, and it's making
the other countries less. That I heard on it may
have been one of your speakers that I'm sure I
listened to your channel all the time, so I know
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I heard that study. I just don't know who, But
I do think there's layers within the process. I also
know on the pharmaceutical side it takes years to bring
a new drug to market.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Undy you're right now, You're right on both counts. You're
completely right, there's way too much red tape, which is
what takes so long. You're right, with the FDA and
approving these medications and and by the way, a lot
more red tape here than in other countries around the world.
And that and that drives the cost up. A it
delays these some of these drugs that are life saving
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number one. Number two, it drives the cost up and
up and up. So you're right, bureaucracy, red tape, huge problem.
And that's why Trump's executive Order, to your second point,
says we're going to go around the middleman. Now, the
insurance companies, CBS, pharmacies, the retail pharmacies where they do
a markup where they you know, they add costs just
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to line their pockets, you know, get a they can
get a piece of the pie. So from now on,
under the executive order, it's the drug manufacturer and the
drug company will sell their medication or prescription drug directly
to the consumer. There is no middleman. The middleman is
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carved out. And it's incredible. We're talking thirty forty fifty
in some cases eighty one hundred percent cheaper. I mean,
it's night and day. So there's so much fat and
frankly corruption in the whole system. And that's what Trump
is trying to eliminate. And again you would think Congress
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would be saying amen. Instead Congress is saying no, why
follow the money, Wendy. Thank you for that call, Phil
in Rainom, Phil, I hate to do this to you.
One minute left.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Go.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Senior citizens the most
vulnerable in the nation, and they're gonna swipe off. No
tax on seniors, Trump, don't sign the bill. Do not
screw over the seniors. We've been getting robbed and screwed
for decades. This is unspeakable. Don't don't flinch, don't blink
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an eye. It's this is this is just incredible. And
they'll continue to steal, steal our money and at the
same time tell us it's running out of money. We
got murderers, rapists, and child molesters getting our souls in security,
medicare and medicaid. Anybody with half a brain can see
what's going on. And I'm really fed up. I'm fed
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up with this crap. And we've got one potty in
this nation now.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
The Uniparty, No, you're dead on look, he promised no
tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on
Social Security. He's got to hold the line on all three.
Six one seven two six x sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
lines are jammed. I want to go to the phone lines,
but I want to read this. Please, all of you
need to hear this. This is why I so strongly
support this executive order and why I really want to
see it codified into law. It's from Sharon. I want
(00:20):
to protect her privacy, so I won't say her last name.
Good morning, Jeff, Well, good morning to you, Sharon. Families
with children or even adults living with genetic or chronic disease,
Lowering the cost of RX drugs means the difference between
(00:41):
having to choose between medication or living expenses. Now listen
to this. Our sun has cystic fibrosis. I'm very sorry
to hear that, Sharon. And while the miracle drug has
been life changing, the cold each month is seven thousand
(01:03):
dollars Holy mackerel, and that is just one medication he
is on seven. We work with the manufacturer to get
copay assistance and with nonprofits for copay grants to make
the copay manageable. And while we are humbled and grateful
(01:26):
for the assistance, I cannot imagine what we would do
if we didn't have this help. The price of medication
is unsustainable, and I feel almost bad now, to be honest,
I'm being serious to talk about my insulin and my
(01:47):
met foreman and my you know, my blood pressure pills
and my cholesterol pills, and you know, complaining about you know,
two three hundred dollars a month, and I feel like
a jerk now, to be honest, you know, compared to this,
But that's what I mean. You start lowering prescription drugs
three four, five, six, seven times what you're paying now,
(02:11):
you're for some families it's thousands and thousands and thousands
of dollars a month, especially those with you know, genetic
or chronic conditions. It's the difference between life and death.
It's the difference between literally food or medications. That's why
I support this all the way. Agree, disagree. Mags in
(02:37):
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Mags and welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi Mags.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I know I've been missing to you. I've been listening,
but I haven't been calling. Well, I'm gonna tell you
I was somewhat calm until that text. Sharon, God bless
you and your family.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
This is so discussion.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't even know like now what to say. I mean,
I'm blown away. And I'm also now realizing why all
of these people in our government are so wealthy, because
if somebody like that has to pay seven thousand dollars
cafe for one thing, one prescription drugs. We have total
(03:20):
rip bop issues between the governments ripping us off our
own government, which they're criminals, which I've been saying for years,
excuse me, and they are to be prosecuted. And I'm
going to tell you when we start prosecuting these people
that have been stealing for us on both sides of
the aisle, which is disgusting. Even worse, we will see
(03:42):
these things start to change because they can. They're not
gonna be able to take their money anymore, and these
people are gonna have to buck up. It's disgusting, Jeff,
I don't even know what to say anymore. I was
almost crying when you were reading that text.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's heartbreaking. And you know, Mags, I would love to
have Thune on this show. He wouldn't come on, he
wouldn't have the guts to come on, But I would
love to have Thune come on this show. I don't
care Schumer Pelosi, Hakim Jeffries, Mini, Mike Mike Johnson, I
don't care any of anyone in the leadership and read
that text and say, why is it too controversial for
(04:21):
us to get most Favored Nation treatment for our citizens?
You can't pass a bill so in other countries because
we're subsidizing it, they can pay I don't know, five
hundred dollars for this medication, but here we have to
pay seven thousand dollars for this medication. So why do
you know? Why are citizens around the world more privileged
(04:44):
than us? Why are they Why are you willing to
give them deals that you wouldn't give to your own people?
And the answer is obvious, because they're all on the take.
They're all on the freaking take. Just follow the money.
And that's why I think they should be ashamed of themselves.
(05:05):
You know, when they steal, they're really stealing from us,
and they're stealing our children and our future. That's what
they're really doing. So Mags, look, I've got to ask you,
are we now starting to see a sea change in
the Republican Party. I'm not talking the leadership, obviously, but
(05:27):
among Republican voters. Where we're now becoming the pro working class,
pro middle class party, where we want to give ordinary
Americans cheaper prescription drugs, lower energy, lower gas, lower grocery prices.
In other words, we're the party of the little person.
(05:50):
The Democrats and the establishment on the GOP side, they're
the party of the big, powerful interests. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You are one hundred percent right, But I'm going to
just phrase it a little bit differently, if you don't mind.
We are the people for this hundred the people that
want to see America thrive, do better. We need to
get rid of all these people that have been ripping
us off. Okay, it's time for them to go, go go.
I'm done, And I know a lot of people have
(06:21):
to be waking up because Trump is showing us on
both sides of the aisles. The Democrats and the Republicans
are both evil, and we need to get rid of
all of these people that are willing to screw us
and rip us off over and over again.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, Jeff, drop the mic as usual, Mags, Please, you
gotta call them more often. Don't be a stranger. Six
to one, and thank you again for that call, Mags
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
let me ask you. Do you support Trump's executive order?
I'm just curious lowering or dramatically reducing prescription medications and
(07:03):
drug costs? Should it be made into law? And have
we been unfairly subsidizing and financially supporting healthcare systems socialist
healthcare systems all over the world? And does this need
to end? And above all, will cutting drug prices by three, four,
(07:30):
five times, basically cutting your drug product costs in half,
if not more. How much of a benefit is that
for you and your family? I am very sorry. I
don't know what else to say. I'm getting blown to
pieces on messenger, on email, on text. Jeff, you got
(07:53):
to take better care of your health. For God's sake.
This is ridiculous. How many medications you're on? Just being
honest with all of you, I'm not gonna pretend I'm
on one or two when I'm really on five or
six or maybe even seven.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know, Yes, I'm eating better, i am exercising more,
I'm watching what I eat, I'm watching my diet. But
you know, look, I don't want to have high blood pressure.
Call me crazy. That's why I take the blood pressure pills.
You know, I don't want my veins clogged with cholesterol. No,
I don't want to just drop dead of a stroke
or a heart attack. So I do take the anti
(08:29):
cholesterol medication. You know, I got type two diabetes. I
got to keep the sugar in line. I'm sorry, So
I take the met foreman and the insulin. Now would
I like to get off all of that? Of course
I'd love to, but you know I'm me, I'm not you.
I don't know what else to say. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
(08:51):
I drive by the Golden Arches and I start imagining
a big, juicy big Mac with extra sauce, large French
frut in a large dive coke, and something just overcomes me.
It's like a demon possessing me. I don't know what
else to tell you. I just turn the car around
and go through that drive through. You know I'm sorry.
(09:15):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
George in Malden. Thanks for holding George, and welcome.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Hey, Jiff. One of the things we could do is
why don't you get all the donations that these senators
and congress men take from the pharmacy pharmaceutical companies, and
that would help people understand who's getting what from who.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's a great point. And George, let me and let
me tell you what else they do. I promise I'll
let you finish, George. But this is another This is
the legalized This is the legal corruption. It's legal, but
it's corrupt.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What they also do, and they do it with the
big defense contractors as well, is that they put their spouses.
I'm just gonna give John Thune as an example. Now
I'm not saying he does it with big pharma, but
I'm saying this is I wouldn't be surprised if something
like this happened. You take Thune's wife and you put
her on the board of one of these big pharma companies,
(10:21):
and so you pay her millions of dollars. So you
see the scam is well, it's like what Biden did, right.
You don't pay Biden, you don't pay the big guy.
You pay a family member. But of course it all
goes whatever the cut goes to the big guy. So
this is the racket in Congress. They have family members,
(10:42):
spouses that they put on these boards. And that's where
they rake in millions and millions and millions. So the
money they say, oh no, no, it's not going to me,
it's one of my wife. Well yeah, but it's really
going to you. So that's Dick Morris talked about this
for decades and he said that's one of the biggest
(11:04):
ways they get rich. The other thing that they do, George,
is very quick, is they pay you for a speech.
So it's not as if it's not a brown paper bag.
You know, here is I don't know, here's five hundred
thousand dollars, John, wink wink, you know which way we
want you to vote?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What they do is they'll say, no, John, in front
of this group, in front of this policy group, in
front of this organization, we would like for you to speak,
but of course your time is so valuable. So well,
you know, what do you charge one hundred thousand dollars
a speech? Well, we've got a couple of speaking engagements
lined up for you. And so he comes there, he
(11:42):
bloviates for an hour and I'm not just picking on
Thune that that's the racket, that's they all do that,
And he picks up a couple hundred thousand dollars just
like this, and you know, a couple hundred thousand here,
a couple hundred thousand there, before you know it, you're
talking millions and millions. So that's the racket, George. It's
(12:03):
not just the donation, which is you know, that's a
powerful incentive. It's the other things they do and then
you can't vote against them. I mean, they've got their
claws in you. And that Tom tillis by the way,
huge big pharma guy on the Republican side, huge McConnell.
Oh my god. It was legendary. It was legendary. You
(12:26):
do have a few that buck the line. You know,
they bucked the trend. But George, I'm telling you can
kin him on two hands. And to be fair, some
are Democrats. This Roque Rocanna in California does not take
money from big Pharma. That's why he's the only one
with the bill. He can't get one Democrat or one
(12:47):
Republican to join him. You have a Democrat and by
the way, he's a progressive Democrat. He's pretty much, you know,
pretty hard left, but he doesn't take pharma money. And
he's like, yeah, why don't we codify this should be
great and so far not one co sponsor, not one, George,
but I digress, Please go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I just feel that we've got to find a way
to have a law that Congress cannot do these things anymore.
At least there are some people out there stead are
publishing what Pelosi does in the stock market, and it's
got to be done, and we can't go along now.
I think the President ought to bludgeon these guys about
(13:34):
their financing of me getting from Congress. Thanks a lot,
Thank you, George.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Great idea, great idea. And I'm going to try to
track down to get all the donations that Big Pharma
gives to Senators, Democrats, Republicans, Senate House. You're going to
be astonished, Jeff. I can't believe it. And they have
the most powerful lobbying firm in DC. People think it's
(14:01):
the military industrial complex, very powerful, number two to Big Pharma.
No one has no one has that place locked down
better than Big Pharma. Maria in New Hampshire. Thanks for
holding Maria, and welcome.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Hi, good morning, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
If you think about it, when has Congress ever passed
the law that benefits us the people and not them?
It either has to be that they can exempt themselves
from what they think is best for us, or they
don't pass anything. This we we you know, I've said
(14:44):
this for a while now. We are the Hunger Games.
If you read that those books, that's exactly what we
live in. We pay for everything and they live their
best lives. No one gets into politics to help the people.
(15:05):
They get into politics to take from the people. And
we don't. We don't, we don't push anything.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
My husband is on a lot of medications also, and
we used to get it from Canada, but it got
too difficult to have our his doctor's right prescriptions to
get them from Canada on a regular basis, so we
came back to buying getting his medications here. But our
(15:34):
politicians will tell you, oh, no, no, no, we're here
for you, but they're not. They get they get kickbacks
from everyone, and the United States pays for everyone, just
like we did with the COVID shot that Biden came
straight out and said, we the people are paying for
the entire world for all of their shots. Why is
(15:56):
it that we have to give all of our money
to every hungry person on the planet. We have to
pay for settling everybody on the planet. We have to
pay for every time someone gets in a war. We
have to pay to rebuild their country, we have to
pay to help them fight. We have to pay for everything.
(16:19):
No one gives us a break, and we don't demand it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Maria, you're on fire. Really, I got to tell you,
you're absolutely on fire. I think this could be the
call of the week. Really, this is out. I mean,
you're dead on and just to again, just all I
can do is add to what she said. You know,
I'm thinking as you when you said to me, have
they ever passed the bill? Have they ever passed the bill?
And I'm racking my brain, and I'm thinking, well, Trump
(16:47):
wanted the border wall. No, they wouldn't fund that, right,
I mean even now the mass deportations, they haven't passed
the bill to fund it. Trump says I need a
lot more resources. They're not passing that. So I'm just
thinking over the only thing, Maria is maybe the Trump
tax bill, you know, the and now the current his
big beautiful bill. Okay, this is from Seethin Open pronouncing
(17:11):
his name correctly on Messenger and here it is. Okay,
this is what they call drop the mic. This is
the checkmate argument, Jeff, the very same HIV medication in
India costs three hundred dollars in America. It costs three
(17:37):
thousand dollars the exact same medication from the exact same
pharmaceutical company. There's nothing, there's nothing, There's not an iota
of difference. It's the exact same product, literally ten times
cheaper in India than it is here HIV. And Trump
(18:00):
is saying, no, you're gonna charge India three hundred. You're
gonna charge American forgive me American consumers, Americans who need HIV,
you're gonna charge them three hundred. If three hundred is
good enough for a billion people at whatever billion sum
now in India, then it should be good enough for
the three hundred and forty million here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Period. Full stop.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
To me, there's no counter argument to this. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Wendy in Westford,
Thanks for holding Wendy, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Hi, Jeff. I'm a first time caller to you. All
the way called great one other time.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, Well, welcome, Wendy, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I listen to you every morning, but I was gonna
talk on both sides. Niche pharmaceuticals which aren't quite big,
but then they get caught, they get bought out by
Big BAMA and millions of dollars in research and development.
Then they have to go through study upon study worldwide
to bring it to market through FDA. It takes years.
(19:12):
Now I understand that they're really concerned because FDA has
seen a lot of job cuts in the worried it's
going to even take longer. However, I also and I
can't reference the study, but I heard a study had
taken place within the last year that said the cost
growing up in the United States is because of the
(19:35):
layers of bureaucracy and middlemen that are just pushing costs
higher and higher BIRTHUS the other countries, and it's making
the other countries less. That I heard on it may
have been one of your speakers that I'm sure I
listened to your channel all the time, so I know
(19:57):
I heard that study. I just don't know who, But
I do think there's layers within the process. I also
know on the pharmaceutical side it takes years to bring
a new drug to market.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Undy you're right now, You're right on both counts. You're
completely right, there's way too much red tape, which is
what takes so long. You're right, with the FDA and
approving these medications and and by the way, a lot
more red tape here than in other countries around the world.
And that and that drives the cost up. A it
delays these some of these drugs that are life saving
(20:34):
number one. Number two, it drives the cost up and
up and up. So you're right, bureaucracy, red tape, huge problem.
And that's why Trump's executive Order, to your second point,
says we're going to go around the middleman. Now, the
insurance companies, CBS, pharmacies, the retail pharmacies where they do
a markup where they you know, they add costs just
(20:58):
to line their pockets, you know, get a they can
get a piece of the pie. So from now on,
under the executive order, it's the drug manufacturer and the
drug company will sell their medication or prescription drug directly
to the consumer. There is no middleman. The middleman is
(21:18):
carved out. And it's incredible. We're talking thirty forty fifty
in some cases eighty one hundred percent cheaper. I mean,
it's night and day. So there's so much fat and
frankly corruption in the whole system. And that's what Trump
is trying to eliminate. And again you would think Congress
(21:40):
would be saying amen. Instead Congress is saying no, why
follow the money, Wendy. Thank you for that call, Phil
in Rainom, Phil, I hate to do this to you.
One minute left.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Go.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Senior citizens the most
vulnerable in the nation, and they're gonna swipe off. No
tax on seniors, Trump, don't sign the bill. Do not
screw over the seniors. We've been getting robbed and screwed
for decades. This is unspeakable. Don't don't flinch, don't blink
(22:19):
an eye. It's this is this is just incredible. And
they'll continue to steal, steal our money and at the
same time tell us it's running out of money. We
got murderers, rapists, and child molesters getting our souls in security,
medicare and medicaid. Anybody with half a brain can see
what's going on. And I'm really fed up. I'm fed
(22:41):
up with this crap. And we've got one potty in
this nation now.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
The Uniparty, No, you're dead on look, he promised no
tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on
Social Security. He's got to hold the line on all three.
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