Worcester Fall Out

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, this headline pretty much says it all. Today's Boston
Herald actually was Yesterday's Boston Herald. Forgive me. Worcester becomes
transgender sanctuary city after public compares Trump administration to Nazis.
So there you go. I mean, I mean so. My

(00:22):
sister is weighing in on this all the way from Tucson, Arizona.
Here is what she texted me. Jeff Trump needs to
put into law that any city that declares itself a
sanctuary city stop receiving any federal money and services. The
city must vote with and have more than fifty percent

(00:42):
of its citizens in favor via a legal referendum or vote.
And if they're still crazy enough to do so, then
they're on their own. Trust me, this will end sanctuary cities.
Uncle Sam is not Uncle Sucker anymore. Look, this is
the other thing. How to nine people on the city council?

(01:06):
How do they suddenly turn an entire city into a
sanctuary city and all the ramifications and consequences that flow
from that, I e. You know, losing federal funding. At
a bare minimum, put it to a vote. That's the
people of Worcester, I mean, at a bare minimum. So
you need fifty percent plus one at least do that.

(01:30):
But suddenly nine crazy moonbats can destroy an entire city
and jeopardize all of its federal funding. I don't think so.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Agree, disagree,
And this is a really really good text. You can

(01:51):
text us, by the way. Seven zero four seven zero
seven zero four seven zero. This is from eight oh
two Jeff. The Red Sox are the most woke team
in baseball. So just wait until the Wooster Red Sox

(02:11):
have trans night and have a trans person throw out
the first pitch. I'm telling you it's coming, and I
can also see the PA announcer. Good afternoon, ladies, gentlemen, kats, gebels,
hee him hershey them, they it and welcome to I

(02:35):
mean it's I agree with eight O two. It's coming.
All the Red Sox are gonna milk this now for
all that it's worth. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Dave in Vermont, thanks for holding Dave, and.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Welcome getting a little crazy down here, Ray, you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Know, honestly, Dave, you know I thought this would be
more like you know, your territory up there in Vermont
with crazy Bernie Sanders and you know, all the all
the crazy moon bats. But now we seem to be
beating you to punch. Now, Dave, again and again and again,
we're out moon batting you. We're out moon batting California.

(03:22):
We're out moon batting everybody right now.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Burlington's still trying they get the answer of.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Dave, what do you think the fallout ultimately is going
to be from this? We lost?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Dave?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Let me ask all of you really, what do you
think the fallout is going to be? Do you think
this is going to stand? Or do you think Worcester's
going to be forced to have to revoke and recin this?
I mean, I hope the people of Worcester rise up
and you know, give the city council a piece of

(03:59):
their mind and tell you better evoke this resolution and
if you all know what's good for you politically, But
I don't know. Once these sanctuary cities, you know, once
they take hold, it's very hard to get rid of them.
As Trump and Pam Bondi and everybody's finding out. Lee
in Waltham, thanks for holding Lee, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Good morning, Jeff Hiley, and so an answer to your question.
I'm glad you asked the question. What's the fallo going
to be? Well, those brilliant light bulbs out in Worcester
just put the revolver to their heads with one bullet

(04:46):
in and they're going to be keep spinning and spinning that.
Here's what's going to happen now that is officially a
sanctuary city for every every creature walking. Think about the
police department, the fire department, the teachers, the e mts.

(05:08):
They are going to have to allow them to apply
like everybody else does. Could you see any of those
people that demand to be part of this sanctuary city.
They're going to be among the volunteer volunteer services, the
services of the community. And if they aren't allowed to apply,

(05:32):
or if they even feel a hint of being scrutinized,
there's going to be lawsuits. I think that they're going
to make more of a hot mess out of Worcester
than it was already. I went to a wedding there
three years ago. There were portholes all over that downtown.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
It's the.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Only gem in that city is the Hanover Canter, which's
a gym in that city. But wait and see, it.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Will become like the gentleman from Lynn said, be my guest.
Everybody can move. You know, all those folks can move
to Worcester. But you're going to see them in the streets.
You'll see them in the restaurants. They will be overwhelming
the community. But what you saw on TV was just

(06:26):
a taste of what they demanded.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You agree, Lee, I think this is a brilliant call.
This is an absolutely brilliant call. And look, the resolution
even says, forget even being considered for opportunities. They have
to be hired. You know, I'm just thinking if they
got to start hiring them as you know, police officers, firefighters, teachers, judges,

(06:48):
you know, the whole kitten kaboodle. What if a police officer,
you know, when he's trans activists, he pulls you over.
They're dressed in drag. You know, I got you going
sixty miles an hour. We're in a forty mile an
hour zone. I identify as a turtle. That's what I
would say. Now, you got the wrong person. That do

(07:09):
I call you? Officer? I mean, I don't know what
do I call you? But anyway, I'm a turtle. I
can't go more than one mile per hour, So you
got the wrong you got the wrong guy. Give somebody
else a ticket because I identify as very slow, very
very slow. Six one seven two six six sixty eight

(07:32):
sixty eight is the number Jen in Bridgewater. Thanks for
holding Jen, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
How you doing.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm good? How are you Jen?

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Good? I just wanted to give kind of a different take.
I'm a therapist and obviously conservative. You know, my field
is really focused on social justice, LGBTQ. You know, all
of those things have really kind of taken hold, and
as we're seeing in Western you know, are influx of
referrals are higher than ever when it comes to LGBTQ.

(08:05):
So for people like myself, you know, are kind of
an anomaly in my field, maybe in this part of
the country, you know, where I'm focused on everybody and
trying to support everybody.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
You know, we've had.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
To change a lot of what we do when it
comes to this population, in terms of language, how we
adapt our therapeutic models, you know, and really how we
keep people safe. More often than not, I'm conducting risk assessments,
making sure this person faces you know, making sure they
don't have access to means. You know, for example, if

(08:36):
we have somebody come in who say, you know, hey, Jen,
I need to work on some childhood trauma. You know,
we're going to work on that. We have kind of
the source. We're going to have a you know, a
trauma informed care plan. We're going to have a recovery model.
When it comes to situations like this, we're getting you know,
this person isn't affirming me, this relative is using my
dead name, this person did not use my pronouns at work.

(08:57):
I'm quitting my job. So a lot of what you know,
what we see in sort of the therapeutic space is
shifting so much to just validation, trying to keep people alive.
So again from our perspective, you know, again from the
conservative perspective, I'm to feel so limited in what I
can do, what I can do because keep people feeling well,

(09:19):
because again, so many of these instances are happening where
it's not enough, no matter what it's this person's not
doing enough for me, this city council, you know, this town,
this school system, and then people are coming to us,
you know, and it's like I'm still depressed, I'm still
you know, struggling with my safety. And then you know,
people like myself are like, I don't know what else

(09:40):
to do. And you know, on our end too, it's
all about keep people safe, keep people coming back, you know,
keep them in a space where they're not going to
be hospitalized. But again, we're seeing so much more of
people needing higher levels of care because of situations like.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
This, Jen, if you don't mind me asking, and if
I'm getting too personal or violating patient you know, doctor confidentiality,
please tell me. But in fact, you know what, let
me just play a cut, and I think the cut
will make my point for me. This is a transactivist
who is convinced that his life is in mortal danger

(10:19):
and that other trans people are being killed by Donald Trump,
that they're dead already, and that his days are numbered
if they don't pass this sanctuary city status like now now, now, now,
he's dead man walking. He's done. Roll cut twenty eight C. Mike,
Can you look at me and tell me how many
of my friends need to die before you do anything?

(10:41):
Please look at me. Okay, we're all done here.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
What's that out?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
We're all done now, Jen. You mentioned you're dealing with
a lot of patients from the trans community who come
to you and you say, they keep fearing for their
own safety. They keep fearing for their own safety. Why
are they so afraid for their own safety? Why are
they so convinced that I'm gonna kill them, You're gonna
kill them. Trump's gonna kill them. The Trump administration is

(11:10):
gonna kill them, that they're being hunted down like the
Jews under Hitler? What is driving this hysteria and paranoia?
Do you have I mean, can you know, do you
have a theory on that?

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Absolutely? Jeff, you know, And really it comes down to
news and social media. I mean, the amount of conversations
I'm having with folks about what they're seeing on TikTok,
you know, a headline, a very short clip, an edited clip.
You know, they're getting very few snippets of information, and
people are typically running with that. I mean not just
lgbtqu clients that I have, you know, I have a

(11:46):
lot of you know, left leaning clients, and they're talking
about this, you know what Trump gonna do. Trump's gonna
take away my rights, Trump's gonna take away my ability
to stay married to my spouse. You know. So they're
getting fed all the information and then that's what we know.
That's what the news does anyway, but people are really
running with it. And what we try to do when
it comes to people who have, you know, intrusive thoughts.

(12:09):
You know, we're trying to present reality based rational thinking.
And when you try to introduce that, you know, to
people who are so dead set on I saw this
on CNN, you can't convince me. Otherwise I feel powerless
in what I can do. And again, you know, I'm
working with people, you know, across you know, many different
mental health diagnoses to the most extreme, and with this situation,

(12:33):
it gets more extreme by the day. Because I mean,
even simply you could call somebody by their name and
they say, well, that's not my name today, you've huned me.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
So again harmless, What do they say you did what
to me?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
You know, because they sometimes go by certain names, so
you might assume, which is a problem, that the name
that you used at the last session is the accurate name.
And then they might say, you know what, Jen, that's
not the name I'm using today. You have harmed me.
You've harmed me.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So in other words, if they went by Bill the
last conversation and now they go by Jenny and you say,
you know, hi, Bill, no, I'm Jenny. So you've harmed
them by calling them a name that they don't want
you to call them. Correct, correct, ya yay ay, yeah, yay. Jen.
I've got to ask you this and again, if you're

(13:25):
violating any confidence or confidentiality, I understand. Are there some
patients that you're talking to because we keep hearing now
about transgender shooters transgender terrorism. When you hear how paranoid
so many of them are, you think, oh, I wouldn't
want a gun in their hands, you know. So do

(13:45):
you fear that maybe some of them are so extreme,
so paranoid, so hysterical, so in fear of their lives,
that maybe they do pose a serious danger to the community,
as in they may start shooting up a school, or
shoot up a Conservatives or shoot up a Trump rally
or something like that.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
There, I mean, there's always that risk. I mean again,
what's being fed from the news and social media. It's
not exactly, you know, the complete opposite. You know, it's
not saying, you know, Trump is doing these exact policies
and signing these executive orders. It's fear based. It's fear mongering.
As you know, as you talk about a lot, you know,
and again, as I talk about, I have to do

(14:27):
a lot of risk assessment. I have to ask somebody
if they're a harm to themselves, if they're harmed to
somebody else, if they have access to means, and access
to means can also be lethal means. So obviously we
have to determine a person's ability to remain safe in
the community because if somebody can't demonstrate that, if there is,
you know, any indication, and some people will be honest

(14:49):
and forthcoming about that, some people you do have to
kind of unpack that a little bit more. But then
we do have to do the appropriate measures and section
them or you know, send them to the hospital for evaluation,
you know, change in medication, whatever it is, you know,
because we have an obligation as mandated reporters to ensure
these people are safe and other people are safe. So

(15:09):
it's constantly an assessment of safety, which again is at
a core of being a therapist, but not so much
where it's happening every single session where you have these
concerns about stability.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Incredible, Jen, this is an incredible call. I have to
tell you, Jen before I let you go. Incredibly informational
I've learned so much. Jen. If I came to you
they say, you know, I did a therapy session with you, Jen,
and I'm telling you I've got six pack abs, I'm
one hundred and eighty pounds, and that I should be

(15:48):
a model. What would you say to me? What would
you would you say, yeah, Jeff, keep feeding that delusion?
Or would you put me on medication?

Speaker 8 (16:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
How would you take care of somebody like me that says, hey, hey,
I'm God's gift to women. What would you what would
you say to that?

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Oh? Jeff, Well, I gotta validate you first and foremost,
I gotta you know, acknowledge that I hear what you're saying,
you know, and I'm trying to stay with you and
unpacked that a little bit more, kind of figure out,
you know, where are you getting that from and what's
driving that?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
So, yeah, Jen, thank you very very much for that call.
You know, I may pay you a visit. I'll validate
that first. Hey, Hey, I'd be willing to pay for that. Yeah, Jeff, Okay,
that's what you think. Jen, Thank you very much for
that call, really really good call. Six one seven two

(16:42):
six six sixty eight sixty eight. So Look, I mean here,
you hear it straight from a therapist. More people are
coming to her with these issues every day. It's getting
worse all the time. They're a threat to themselves. There
are a threat to people in the community, and you're
doing violence or you're doing harm to them. If they
had one name the last session and then the next

(17:05):
session they go by a different name. Now yeah, I
mean you just turned it straight from an expert who's
you know, been dealing treating these people. You're gonna give
them sanctuary status in the second biggest city in Massachusetts.
You see the problem? Okay, just as a very very
quick aside, it's practically irrelevant. But I don't know, I'm

(17:27):
kind of cheering here when we were off air. So
they've got these USAID hearings now that the house is holding,
and one of the main witnesses that's going to be
testifying against all of this waste, fraud and abuse is
actually a friend of mine. Couldn't even tell me he
was going to testify.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Max.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
He's a great Croatian American, a conservative, big Trump guy.
And I'm watching TV and I go that's Max, So
good for you. Max. So Max is a test all right, okay,
good job, Max, all right. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Uh, this

(18:09):
is from six oh three and it's an absolute doozy.
You can text us by the way. Seven zero four
seven zero seven zero four seven zero, Jeff. The only
people killing transgendered people are wait for it, transgendered people.

(18:29):
Have you seen the suicide rate among these people? It
is off the charts. The only ones who present a
danger to these people most of the time is themselves. Well,
and that's what Jen was also bringing up. Are therapist,
you know, Cronic Country's resident therapist, you know, Jen and Bridgewater,

(18:52):
you know, are they a threat not just to others
but obviously a threat to themselves? And when you hear
a lot of them talk, especially at that Worcester City
Council meeting a couple nights ago, holy shimoli. I mean
they looks unhinged, deranged, seriously medically you know ill, like
there's got serious medical issue, a mental health issues. Yeah,

(19:15):
I'd be very worried about the suicide rate among many
of them. They are not psychologically well. You can see that.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Chris in Witchingdon. Thanks for holding Chris, and welcome.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
Well, I'm third generation Croatian American whoa my grandfather from
a little place called Sabinik and on the Adriatic.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh, Chris, holy mackerel. So I got my buddy, who's
a Croatian American from Chicago, right from Chicago, testifying as
you and I speak. And now I got another Croatian
American calling me third generation. This is Chris. I've never
had so I'm been surrounded by so many Croatian Americans
in my life. Welcome Chris, A double welcome, my friend.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
You know, I was torn between a few different movies
that I saw relating this city council meeting and just
make him quick, a few quick points. You know Idiocracy
the movie, I see elements of that. I see Patch
Adams where Robin Williams went in to the institution and

(20:29):
he was met by whom he thought was a head
doctor and draft dressed impeccably in a lab in a
doctor's coat, and it turned out to be a patient. Well,
these people in the council meeting weren't as conventionally attired.
But I think, sir, of the movie Animal Farm, if
you read thick into the book. Toward the end, they

(20:52):
when the jig is up, when the people had been
deceived on the farm, they say, well, what's going on?
And the author or Well writes, well, he says, all
animals are free, but some are more equal than others.
And I see this moving into these hate crime laws,

(21:15):
you know, and I support protection. All these people have
equal protection under the law. Jet I've never seen a
codebook that exempts them from equal protection. And we all
want that. We don't want anybody to be heard. And
they're already protected. Now hate crime laws they codify unequal
justice under color of law, and so I'm concerned about

(21:39):
that because they already have life, liberty, pursuit of happiness,
and they have protection under the law. So what is
this all about. They're not exempted from that protection.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh no, you're dead on Chris yours. I mean, as
I like to say, in not one hundred, you're one
thousand percent correct. Now, Look, Chris, I think what's becoming
very obvious, very crystal clear. And I was so happy
that Jen called because she really confirmed what everyone sort
of knows. But she's like, look, I treat them, I
talk to them on a daily basis, one appointment after another.

(22:12):
So much of their fear is irrational. It's being driven
by the news media, the fake news. It's the state
run media. Now that's what he really should be called
with after this huge USAID scandal. I don't know if
you heard, but Elon says, it's I think it could
be billions now that we have been secretly funneling to
the New York Times and the Boston Globe and the

(22:33):
Washington Post and CNN and the BBC, and so it's
it's the state run media. So all of this stuff,
that the fear mongering from the state run media on
social media coming from Democrats, that Trump is the second
coming of Hitler, that Trump is going to go into
the trans community and start shipping in them off and

(22:55):
killing them and massacring them and rounding up into death
camps and concentrate camps. That's where so much of this
insane hysteria and paranoia is coming from. Now that's misinformation,
that's blatant, you know, deliberate, premeditated disinformation. They've got to

(23:16):
be held accountable for that. And I'm sorry, but I
go back to the Worcester City Council as an adult
in the room who's sane and normal. They should say.
You know, when they're saying I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die,
You're not gonna die. Calm down, you're being lied to,
You're not being rounded up, you're not being shot, you're

(23:39):
not being persecuted. Nobody wants to put you in death camps.
This is one thousand percent bull you know what, Bravo
Sierra like. People got to start telling them. Instead, they
keep indulging their there, they keep indulging their neuroses. You know,
when someone is mentally ill, don't indulge them. If they're

(24:03):
telling you they're a pigeon, don't say, yeah, you're a pigeon.
Or if they're telling you they're a dog. You know
a dog. Don't start going rough. Reff rough, roff ref rough.
Tell them you're not a dog. I'm sorry. No, you're
a person with no here. Let me show you a mirror.
Here's the mirror that's you. Does that look like a dog.
That's not a dog. So it's the same thing. You're

(24:24):
not gonna die. Trump's not gonna round you up. In fact,
you're gonna have more money in your pocket. You're gonna
have more economic opportunities. We're taking the illegals off the streets.
Crime is going down. You're actually gonna be much safer.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Trump's gonna make America great for you too. All right, now,
go see Jen in Bridgewater and she needs to help you.
That's what we have to start saying to people. Chris,
am I.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Wrong using them for putting them on a plantation in
because further divisiveness? And I have I feel sorry for them,
And I'm so thankful for your venue and what I've
learned from listening to you and your listeners. And I
want to end this call with that, and just I'm great.
I'm grateful for this venue. Thank you, Jeff, Thank.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
You, Chris. And please, my fellow Croatian American, don't be
a stranger call again. We got to stick together. There's
so few of us, Chris, we got to stick together.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
Al in Florida, Thanks for holding Al and welcome.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Hey, Jeff. I'm I'm seventy one years old, Jeff going
to be seventy two in March, and I'm thinking about
this and I'm thinking about how the greatest generation would
deal with something like this. Let's say the Greatest Generation
were the console people at the at Wister. What do

(25:56):
you think they would say? How would they handle that?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
They would have laughed in their face, and they would
have cleared the room. They would have said, get out.
They wouldn't even have held a vote, say the greatest Generation.
There's eleven council members. Okay, so it's the greatest generation.
I'm telling you eleven to zero. It doesn't matter if
it's Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, it doesn't matter. They would

(26:22):
laugh in their face and then they would say get out.
A few may say, you need mental help, or you
need help. You know, you need help. You you should
see a doctor or a psychiatrist or jen in Bridgewater.
Here's got it, you know, here's a card here. Let
me give you a card and go see that person.
But generally they say get out, clear the room, out out,

(26:44):
We don't have time for this stupidity.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Next.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm telling you that's what would happen. That's it, al,
that's exactly what would happen. Security clear them. That's what
they would say. No, no, one's trying to kill you. No,
but I'm a woman. No, you're a man, keep go
to just throw them out. Got bye bye all. I'm
telling you that's exactly how they would handle it.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
One more thing, Jeff, can you hear me.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I can hear you. I mean now, I mean agreed, disagree,
I mean, what do you think?

Speaker 8 (27:16):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I agree? But one thing I want to say, and
that I'm going to hang up.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
I think this country, this country right now needs to
get back to the greatest generation. The country will then
straighten out. And that's what Donald Trump is trying to do.
Thank you, Jeff, thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Wel oh, no, look here, what the hell? At this point,
I'm going to go to Worcester and I'm going to
identify as a billionaire. I mean, if if they're up,
they're all going to go crazy over there in Wister,
What the hell, I might as well get my cut.
So maybe you know what, guy, you know what I'm thinking,
Sandy and Mike, let's relocate the show to Worcester. Okay,
here's what I'm thinking. And I'm going to identify as

(27:54):
a billionaire. So when I go to the bank, Hey,
this one may be a man, this one may be
a woman, this one may be an alien, this one
may be well everything. This one may be a cat,
this one may be a little doggie. I'm a multi
billionaire the last time I checked. It's it's a race

(28:14):
between me and Elon who's richer. I hear he's worth
four hundred billion. I'm four oh one, So please give
me my cash. I'm taking out a billion dollars a
big withdrawal, and give it to me in twenties. So
I mean, I think then Wooster will say no. But

(28:38):
whoa I identify as a billionaire? What the hell? My
civil rights? Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number John in Rhode Island. Thanks
for holding John.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
And welcome, Hey Jeff.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
I'm really glad to count on your show. First off, Jeff,
you may recognize that voice. I'm a big fan of yours.
I have unlessen for years. I send you tips sometimes.
I also I'm just I'm a very big kunk fan conservative.
I am so close to the story, and I hope
some people here will listen to this. I'll try and
be as the saint as I can. That therapist made

(29:14):
a lot of sense. The first thing I want to
make two points. The reason this is being passed in
Worcester is because of this human rights campaign. What the
human rights campaign is is a coalition of LGBQT plus,
so as anybody who's gay, you know, lesbian, France, blah

(29:36):
blah blah, people of color, so you can have immigrants
and HIV positive. So the reason it's being what they
do is they band together through their social media to
get each other's agenda passed. That's why it's actually passing
in my opinion in Worcester. But more importantly, I have

(29:57):
a very a very very brank kid who's I've been
identifying as trans since the pandemic, and she is now
at one of the best colleges of America Ivy League level.
I'm I tried to use my financial aid leverage to

(30:19):
help my kid, to tell her, like you said, where's
the parent in the room, that if she stayed on
this path, I wasn't going to support her to about
thirty thousand dollars a year out of my pocket. She
told the school, and the school wiped me off the

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financial aid criteria as if I didn't exist, gave her
an additional thirty thousand dollars and I'm out of her life. Additionally,
in Rhode Island. By law, all therapists and all teachers
if a kid identified this trance, by law can only
affirm them this is how this this cellas grew and

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how I became out of my kid's life. They are
not allowed to say, hey, maybe something else is going
on here, or even see if a kid might be autistic,
which I potentially my kid is. They are only allowed
to affirm. That's called gender affirming careative. And I'd love
you to do a story on gender affirming care because

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there's a lawsuit which are using on the Jennifer firming
care model. Judicial Watch is taking the court is going
to the Supreme Court. And what they have they did
is they rigged at the American Associated Sation of Pediatricians
three years ago. The steering committee was all the genderferming

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care policy was written by all LGTPQ doctors. Seventy percent
of already subscribing cross sex or monst their patients. That's
why they has gotten to where it's at. So don't
take it out on these poor kids, my kids when
when you use a word in and these you know

(32:09):
there their dogs or cats, My kids. An incredibly right
kid that is so indoctrinated I can't get her.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Back, I know, I hear you. No, no, John, Look, please,
uh you know, don't mistake me trying to add a
little levity to a very serious conversation, because it's look,
this is really depressing, you know. So you know, people
are in their cars, they're battling traffic. I want them
to laugh a little bit, you know, as well as
well as obviously in form and and you know, we

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enlighten and we talk and we we we discuss. But
please don't mistake me having a little levity as not
understanding just how deadly serious and I mean deadly for
some people it's it's life and death. They commit suicide
over this, you know. They or they get you know,
a permanent gender reassignment surgery as they call it, a

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sex change operation, and their lives are irreversibly changed forever.
So please don't mistake my levity for not being serious
about this. Now, let me just get to the heart
of the issue, because you touched on something very, very profound.
There's a lot of social pressure in school. I know
because my children tell me, both my son and my daughter,

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both Ashton and Eva tell me now at school, especially
among their peers, the culture around them. You have to
be either gay or trance. The pressure is immense, so

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either come out as you know, homosexual or lesbian or bisexual.
Even if it's not true. They just want you to
come out and say you are, and then you're being
they call it affirmed. Then they go, yeah, you're cool,
you're you're an it kid, you're you're part of the crowd.
But genderism in particular, there is tremendous pressure now over

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every little thing, every little thing. If a boy just
likes to dance, are you a girl? You sure? Maybe
you're a girl. Do you identify as a girl? A
girl's in particular, let's say they like sports. I don't
know hockey. I'm just gonna make something up. Oh like, well,
we could sider gonna be a tomboy, right growing up?
Are you a boy? Do you identify as a boy?

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Maybe you are a boy? Have you thought you're a boy?
And so they're the ones. And I'm talking at seven, eight, nine,
you know, years old. Never mind now Ash's fourteen, Avis twelve.
The pressure is even getting more and more so they
try to put these ideas in your head and it's
a form of brainwashing. Indoctrination, the power of suggestion and conformity,

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and it's relentless, it doesn't stop. And so what happens is,
as John Rightley says, you have a son her daughter
who after many years of this, of this constant, relentless
pressure and indoctrination, starts to become convinced whatever you're a boy,
you're now a girl, or you're a girl and you're

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now a boy. And there's massive money involved. There's huge
money involved, you see. It's not just an ideological thing.
By the way, look at the USAID scandal. They were
peddling transgenderism in Cambodia, in Sri Lanka, a transgender comic

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book in Peru, transgender operas in Colombia, transgenderism all across Africa,
all across the Middle East. There is massive money involved
in this, and a lot of it here. And by
the way, ask yourself, how did we get to this point? No, really, look,
I don't want to sound like one of these guys.

(35:58):
Oh you know Becken, my dad you know, no, No,
there were problems obviously, but you went to school. It
was reading, writing and math. Throw in a little history
whatever phized, yes, a little bit of art, class. Now,
how do we go from that? And I'm not saying
there weren't problems, there were problems, but still, how do

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we go from that to six seven year olds have sex,
gay pornography to third graders at telling kids again, you're
a cat, you're a dog, meow, We're gonna put a
bowl of milk, licked the bowl, trying to convince a

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nine ten year old girl, no, you really should get
yourself shot up on testosterone and take puberty blockers which
will destroy your fertility for the rest of your life.
And really maybe just you know, chop your breast off
and chop your you know, your private part off, and
you know, get an artificial penis. Sorry to say it,

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but that's a twelve. How did you go from How
did we go from reading, writing, math, civics, history, sciences,
whatever to this? This has no place in the classroom,
This has no place to children. I can't believe I

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even have to say this. And by the way, Trump
is right, we're going to talk about it probably tomorrow
or on Monday. It's time to get rid of the
Department of Education. A lot of this is money tied
to the Department of Education in Washington, and noticed since
Carter gave us the Department of Education was at late seventies. Okay,

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that was forty five years ago. We spend the most
money in the world per capita, on pupils, on students.
No country comes close. We spent about twenty thousand dollars
per student in this country. We ranked fortieth on math proficiency,

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writing proficiency, reading proficiency, literacy proficiency. There's literally an inverse
relationship to how much money we spend and to the
education results of our kids. It's almost like the more
we spend, the dumber our kids get. Kick it back
to the States, demolish the whole building, get rid of

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the entire Department of Education. It's been a disaster, an
absolute disaster, and they used it exactly as the critics predicted,
as a laboratory to experiment on our children. This is
all top down, tied with massive amounts of money and

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funding our money.