July 23, 2025 • 55 mins
In this powerful episode of Wildly Wealthy Life, Kat and Lee sit down with the multi-talented Kim Manning—singer, actress, champion artistic roller skater, and creative force behind Royal Rollers. Kim shares her journey from poverty in small-town Oklahoma to international stages, the Grammys, and the big screen. She opens up about limiting beliefs, perfectionism, reclaiming joy through movement, and redefining success on her own terms. Through her story, Kim reminds us that confidence and creativity flourish when we stop apologizing for our existence.
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00:00 Kim reflects on how her upbringing became her superpower
02:00 Introduction to Kim’s artistic journey and career highlights
04:59 What keeps skating magical after all these years
06:49 Kim’s first job after college: skating for Oprah
08:00 How skating re-entered her creative life on the P-Funk tour
10:00 George Clinton’s advice: “Put on your skates and try it”
13:00 Partnering with Trey Knight and the lessons of grit and greatness
19:05 Letting go of the “shoulds” and doing what brings true joy
24:22 Bringing engineering thinking into teaching skating
26:03 Advice to young Kim: stop apologizing for your existence
29:00 Reframing her life as a success—even if it looks different than expected
32:05 The power of mentorship and guidance in childhood
33:00 Exercises to challenge limiting beliefs and reframe self-talk
38:22 Owning her message and teaching others to embrace imperfection
45:00 Sharing fun moments from her acting career, including Jane the Virgin and Barbie
52:00 What Kim learned from George Clinton about soul over skill
53:00 Kim’s definition of a “Wildly Wealthy Life”
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I think at some point I had to forget,like there was a lot of hurdles that
I had to go over that a lot of otherpeople did, but in some ways I. That
poverty that I came from was actuallymy strong suit because it allowed me a
to, you know, suck it out and like stayin the industry and keep moving forward.
(00:21):
It gave me sort of preservationand, um, creative abilities.
Um, and it also like kept me working.
Like, I was always kind of constantlyworking and so I used to like sort of be
sort of a ashamed of that, but now I'mlike, wow, that's actually like the reason
that I was like on the road forever.
'cause I could deal with it.
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I like had this career a littlebit because of it, you know?
And I think I've been.
In light of that and like, um, I,I, I've been going through all of
the family photos and everything andseeing the me skating and like me in
pageants, it was very interesting.
Like I saw the age in which you couldsee sort of my posture change and like my
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insecurities creep in and I could see it.
Like, I could see all a sudden mebeing like, oh, I'm so excited, but
I'm actually here and here I was thislike pretty little girl, you know, with
loads of talent and like, you know,sort of apologizing for my existence.
And I think that in general, that's.
Like a big note that I'm cominginto him when I'm skating.
I'm like, I didn't have toapologize for my existence.
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Like how would I skate?
How would I move?
How would I talk?
I think that that's like perfectionism andthen you have like perfectionism in there
that like creates the problems becausethen you're here, so then you got third
place instead of first place, which youwould've got if you were, you know, not
apologizing for your existence, you know?
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Today's guest is Kim Manning.
Kim is a champion artistic roller skater.
She's been skating since she was threeyears old and owns her own entertainment
company called Royal Rollers, as wellas works with night Rollers, moxie
skate team, and other pro skate groups.
Kim and her partner Trey Knight.
Our regular featured acts for LagunitasBeer Circus, as well as Debbie
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Allen's Hot Chocolate Nutcracker.
Kim Manning's also been on a lot oftelevision appearances in the role of
actor, singer, dancer, or P Funk All Star.
Uh, Kim has appeared on TheTonight Show with Jay Leno, the
Late Show with David Letterman.
She's been a part of BET fortheir silver anniversary special
and the 46 annual Grammy Awards.
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As an actor, Manning has made appearanceson Boston Public, the Bernie Mac Show.
Uh, she's also known as Peaches and theVH one Reality Show Flavor of Love, which.
17 million of y'all,uh, I've already seen.
But, uh, she does an excellent job onscreen, in person, on stage, and we're
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very excited to have her on our show.
Awesome.
Well stay tuned.
Hey, my name is Kat.
And I'm Lee.
And welcome to the
Wildly Wealthy Life Podcast.
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wealthy, wildly wealthy life.
Well, in just a second, we're goingto bring Kim in, but before that
we'll do a little quick recap onwhat we loved about the episode.
That's right.
And uh, when you get a chance to hearher story, you're gonna hear how she's
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really great at finding her identityand identifying different triggers
in her own life and being able tolike, grow and adapt from those I.
Standpoints.
Yeah.
And I think my favorite part about,uh, what Kim, uh, discussed in
our conversation today is the toolthat she shared that really helped
her overcome some of the limitingbeliefs that she had as a child.
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And I think that you're not gonna wannamiss this episode, so make sure you
stay tuned all the way till the end.
Here we go.
O.
Well, Kim, thank you for being here today.
It is such a pleasure to have you and tosee your smile, to see your face, because
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it's been a while since I've seen you.
And, um, I just wanna start with,you've been skating for a very, very,
very long time, which is amazing.
What keeps it magical for you?
You know, skating.
I think a lot of peoplethat skate feel this way.
And maybe it's just like one of thosethings that it's sort of like if
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it's your destiny or whatnot, but youknow, it's just, it never gets old.
I mean, I think it's, it's one of thoseskill sets you'll, you'll never master.
Um, you know, even when you're like, uh,train night, who, who's my, my, my old
partner and that he's been coaching meand he's a world champion in our sport,
and I remember one of my students.
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Asked me once, you know thatif Trey went to a coach, would
he have anything to teach him?
And I was, that's a good question.
So I asked Trey, and Trey was like, well,of course, why else would I get a coach if
I didn't expect him to teach me something?
You know?
And I was like, well, yeah, I guess,you know, the skating never ends.
And so that in itself kind ofperpetuates the excitement about it.
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Um, I don't know.
I, I, I didn't skate forabout four years of my life.
I maybe longer 'cause I quit.
Well, I roller bladed for awhile, so I guess that counts.
I quit competitively skatingwhen I was like 16 or 17.
Then I roller bladed I guessfor about a year or so.
And so, yeah, I didn'tskate all through college.
And then like my first year out ofcollege, after I graduated from college,
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I just had all these dreams when I wassleeping that I would be, um, skating
and I would be doing an air best.
You know, like guess we call it aspiral, but I would be doing an air
best and I always had this big smile.
And I realized like, wow.
And so I had my mom mail me my old skates,which at that time were from when I
was like 16 years old or 15 years old.
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So my feet had grown, but Istuffed my feet in 'em and,
and started skating again.
I actually got my first job within aweek for Oprah Winfrey of all things.
So, you know, it, it'sfunny how that works, right?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's awesome.
That's really cool.
Was there anything that you learned,um, did you actually like, get
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a chance to interact with her?
Was there anything that you learnedfrom that experience with her?
You
know, I didn't really get to interactwith her, but it was this private
party that was for, I believe only fourindividuals and she was one of those four.
So, and then it was like aprince and a whatever, and,
and we were doing Anna Carina.
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They do like a book club.
And, um, so we were performing AnnaCorina, which was like incredible.
But um, the woman who was thedirector, she was, she played the
waitress in PeeWee's Big Adventure.
She was absolutely in Incre, youknow, the redhead like, oh my God,
she was incredible and I learned alot from her and actually continued
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to work with her as an acting coach.
And so, you know, you know,I guess that's how it works.
You know, your first, you know, youget these Hollywood, I was already
singing with George Clinton at thetime, but hadn't thought about skating
on P-Funk stage for like anotheryear or so before that happened.
So yeah, this was kind of like thefirst time sort of my Hollywood
career was like happening, but.
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That's really cool.
So, took a break, did schooldream, started flooding you?
Was there, I mean, I guess like once youstep into that, that circle and you had
that immediate like, um, gratification'cause you had the first job and
whatnot, um, was it just an accelerationfrom right then, or did you have to
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build up to where you are currently?
What, what was kind oflike the, the life cycle.
Yeah, the list, God, it waslike, gosh, it was like a, it's
the never ending cycle, right?
So I did that and then shortly afterthat I got a film as an actress being in
a roller derby called Room 33 and like,you know, we were roller derby girls.
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So, okay.
That started to happen.
And then, um, why did Iput on, I must have just.
Put them my skates on myfeet one day in UNK tour.
And George was like,everybody was like, oh my god.
You know?
And it's weird because I wentto college for music theater.
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So, you know, I, I wasactually double major.
I studied engineering as well,but my degree in music theater and
um, so it's really weird that I.
Didn't skate because I thoughtI was trying to be serious.
You know?
I was trying to like act andsing and dance and do things
that would further my career.
Like I never, and all my collegefriends are like Kim, like the
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people that were in theater with me.
They're like, why did we not know?
Why do we not know that you did this?
You know?
And I was thinking in my mind, likeno one would ever wanna see me skate.
Like I just, I don't know, as anartistic skater really kind of.
Like, we're so technicalthat we just know.
We get focused on what we'renot versus what we are.
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You know?
And I quit figure skating, right?
Whenever I should have been entering thejunior world class, so like right when I
should have been ready to be, you know,best in the world, but I quit, right?
So there's always, in my mind,I wasn't good enough, right?
So anyway, um, yeah.
So one day I put my skates on my feet inP-Funk and everybody was like, oh my gosh.
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And then from that pointforward it was like, um.
Kim, you're wearing the skates.
And George actually had a phrase, uh,George Clinton, and he would say, um, you
know, go put on your skates and try it.
So like, if we'd, if they'd be doinglike a little dance, like a little, you
know, they're doing their like, cooldance moves and I'm like trying to do
it and I am probably like, don't blend.
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And then George is like, Kim,go get your skates and try it.
Right.
So that makes sense.
Right.
And he'd be right.
Normally I put on my skatesand actually he's right.
All of a sudden now I lookcool like everybody else.
Right.
Then it came a thing where it waslike, even if I was singing, like if
I couldn't hit the high note, it'd belike, go get on your skates and try it.
Or if like I wasn't singing itwith the right inflection, go
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get on your skates and try it.
You know, even if my skates werelike back at the hotel, you know,
it became like a joke and, and in mylife that's kind of what it became.
So, um, you know, I quit that band and.
2015 and I thought I was gonna focuson my, uh, solo singing career.
And that's about the time that I met you.
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I was also really interested inthe circus arts and I just, that
kind of came outta left field.
I always had this sensethat I wanted to fly.
And so I just started training thecircus, and I thought too, oh, if
I had like a trapeze, then I couldwear my skates on smaller stages
and have like a center point.
It was a, it's a wrong idea there.
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I need more space, but whatever.
You know, it.
That was what got me there.
And so I'm studying circus.
I quit P-Funk because I wannafocus on my solo career.
And then I got, um, an agentthat works for like background
specialty people and does like,you know, through my yoga school.
And she got me this Apple commercialrollerskating and I. Met Trey Knight
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there, and then Trey Knight does, he'sthe world champion who I mentioned
earlier, and he does the stunts,the skate stunts that, you know, I
had been wanting to do for about 20years but could never find a partner.
And um, so he was like, Hey.
You know, let's, let's do youknow, have you ever tried this?
And so then I started doing that.
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And then right away, you know,we started booking things.
We booked the, uh, the Olympic commercialfor Toyota and we did Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.
And then we started, um, doing, we did alot of Nita Beer circus and did a bunch
of different like private events andit all my sort of music career contacts
all of a sudden were like, because of.
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That was, I was so involved withthe Burning Man community and that
underground culture as a musician.
So they all knew me as likeKim from Wanderlust or Kim
from, you know, the singer.
But like all of a sudden they were like,oh, you got a, you got a circus act.
You know, we got circuses.
So, so, you know, we werekind of all of a sudden.
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That all of it was weird how that momentumthat I created as a musician overlapped
quite nicely into circus artists.
And, um, so I don't know.
And then we were doing that upuntil around Covid and then Trey got
cancer, um, and he's been fighting,uh, the, the Good Battle and mm-hmm.
Currently is cancer free.
Wow, that's great.
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Ever since.
Yeah.
It's really amazing.
He had stage four and it moved through.
I'm like trying to count how many organs?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Ithink six of his organs.
I believe that's correct.
Oh gosh.
Wow.
Um, so, um, yeah, but you know, again,I had the opportunity to really see
what a world champion is and backto the ME that was 16 and gave up my
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dreams of trying to become a worldchampion, you know, world class Gator.
Um, I understood actually like.
Why?
There were a lot of reasons,like there was not that level of
coaching where I was at in Oklahoma.
There was not really the financial meansfor me to like compete at that level.
Um, but also, like, I don't, that's alot of grit, like to be a world champ.
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I saw it in him like, you know,he faced cancer like a world
champion, you know, and, um.
I was kind of like, oh, I'm a funkadelic.
Like I'm gonna use these things, youknow, can we just go sing for a little
bit and then get back to the hard work?
You know, I understood myselfa little bit better and seeing
his experience fight with that.
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But, um, yeah, so Covid came and,you know, people were teaching that,
like maybe it just started skating.
They don't, they didn'tunderstand the principles.
There's like an actual, you know,it's like a 300 year old technology.
So there's principles that arejust sort of physics, you know,
they're just, it's physics.
It's not, you know, we don'tneed to reinvent the wheel.
It's physics.
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It works in a certain way.
It's like an airplane works, youknow, because of the physics.
And so, um, I felt like just this profoundneed to like help people because like in
particular, people are saying, oh, youcan't stop using your toe stop, which is.
Ridiculous.
And like, it's called a toe stop.
You know, like, because it's justto stop with your toe, you know?
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But you know, that's like why it has thename, but for some reason, I mean, I don't
understand why, because it's not good todo it in Derby when you have people that
are aggressively coming from behind you.
But you know, provided that that'snot the situation, you know.
Yes, it's the proper way.
And so these are like foundationsof skating and we're like getting
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lost because if you don't practicestopping with your toe A, people
aren't learning how to stop properly.
And so then they're sort ofskating wildly outta control.
And then B, you're not building innergroin strength to actually push off
and have control as a skater thatyou need to in doing that stop.
So anyway, I'm gettingtoo deep with it all.
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Uh, with the, um, your whole story,like you think about the, the creativity
that you had as a child, going up toabout what I think 16, 17, when you,
you had the break, um, pressing intoengineering, so getting like that side of
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your brain to, to really click and then.
Just how everything is really kindof culminating and come together
for you is like a beautiful story,although on its own, it's really
awesome just hearing that from you.
And, um, it's more of a comment, Iguess question, but when, uh, one
thing you had mentioned was some ofthe, the beliefs that you had Yeah.
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That were kind of against maybe like your.
Planned Destiny, um, or what you thought,you know, what you, what you thought,
um, how, what was it like for you kindof getting past that and, and was there
a particular moment that was like,alright, now I'm, I'm all in on, on this.
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Mm-hmm.
And I, I believe in myselfto be able to, to, to really
just run with this right now.
Well, okay.
So when I was a child.
I told my mom, I wannabe a singing actress.
Mind you, I was trying tobecome an Olympian at the same
time, but I just didn't thinkof that as a career, you know?
Yeah.
And, um, we already went over that, right?
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So, uh, then when I graduatedfrom college, everybody was
like, oh, you gotta focus.
You can't be a singer and an actress, Kim.
Right?
Right.
Kat.
Mm-hmm.
You can't DA singer, you know, dancing.
You know, you gotta do, like,you gotta pick one, right?
So I was like, okay, you know.
I'll drop my acting agent.
I'm gonna be a singer.
And then for like, uh, for waytoo long, I was just focused and I
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was like, you know, doing all thethings that I ought to do, doing the
marketing, the flyers, the puttingout the CDs, the like tours nonstop.
Nonstop tours.
I'm telling you guys for likethree or four years of my life, I
was only home for 11 days a year.
And that would be like twodays at a time, you know?
And every day I was in a different city.
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And so I would go from tour with.
Parliament and then I would leave, youknow, parliament Funkadelic, it's one
band for those of you guys that don'tknow, um, I would leave it and then
I would go on tour with my own band.
I would like literally go fromone tour to another and it was
just, you know, virtual nonstop.
And, um, and then I, you know, I, Ihad a breakup with my, uh, solo band,
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which was called Wanderlust at the time.
And I saw the, like howfragile everything was.
Um.
Within the music business.
And I saw how, uh, difficult it is as afemale, uh, to be in the music business
because, um, that band was moving sofast and a large part of it was, it
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was me and, um, another man, Lance.
And we were the fronts of theband and was, I mean, I really
liked that project a lot.
I thought it was great.
I loved singing with him andI loved our project, but it
also really helped to have.
A male be in a band like venuesthat wouldn't book me before all
of a sudden would, and it, itdidn't make much sense, you know?
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And it was just very like dishearteningto like finally see what was happening
on the other side and recognizing it.
And um, and so I quit that bandand then about a month later
I quit Parliament Punk Ade.
Right?
So I was just in this place of like.
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Being done with doing allthe things that I should.
You know, like I had this band thatwas like, we had a record deal in hand
and we were starting to headline majorfestivals, and then I had this other
band, which is of course well known.
And you know, you get to meet everybodyand stay in the band and you're in
the industry and all these things.
And I was just like, I justcouldn't do it anymore.
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So then I decided I'm gonna quit doingthat thing where you like manifest
destiny and you are like, oh, this iswhat I'm gonna do and this is my goals,
and blah, blah, blah, and dah, dah dah.
And I just like waslike, I'm done, I'm done.
I'm just gonna become a trackies artist.
Right?
And then I spent like way toomuch money to do that, you know?
And way.
Tons.
I went back to that old me thatalthough I wasn't a world class
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skater, I was still skating 40 hoursa week pretty much my whole childhood,
you know, 30 to be realistic.
But like, you know, I wentback to that mode and I went
back into being an athlete.
Um, I guess that was it.
I just was so disheartened by music.
I almost feel sad sayingit, that I just went into.
Being an athlete.
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And, and, and I began to just dothat, which I was inspired by.
And I had this phrase where I woulddo not what I, what I ought to, but
what I want to, what do I wanna do?
Not versus what should I do,what am I supposed to do?
And then that was kind of when everythingjust started to fall into place.
And like you said, you know, I, I trainedthe circus for like, I don't know, five
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years, six years before I met Trey.
And so then when Trey and Istarted doing those spinny stunts.
Although my stomach still had to, youknow, get used to it, my body was trained
for it, you know, like my bo and he saidthat, 'cause I'm, I'm big as a fire.
I'm five, seven and a half, so I'm,I'm five, seven and three quarters,
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you know, so I'm, I'm not five big yet.
You gotta grab that corridor.
Okay.
Yeah, I know, right?
It was really the quarter under, I'm not.
Five eight.
But, um, so anyway, but youknow, it's like, that's it.
I used to wanna be tall and I'm giant, youknow, but like, I'm very big for what I
do, but it's because of the strength thatI built in the circus training that it
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was no problem for Trey and other partnersto lift me because of, you know, I was.
So it was weird how that just kind ofcame into place and then all of a sudden,
you know, and then I think to continue onwith your point is like, and then whenever
Covid hit and, uh, we all started doing,you know, I started doing my tutorials.
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All of a sudden, that was wheneverit came clear that the, the math
and engineering training that I.
Had came into play because of, I basicallyteach people from the perspective of
like mechanical engineering, you know,I'm kind of multi-variable cal. I'm
breaking down multi-variable calculusfor people, like in a way that I can
sort of see it quite easily, you know?
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Yeah, I was gonna say like that'sthe part, like where you just,
uh, like in that little moment ofexplaining like how the toe break
works and then the inner core mm-hmm.
Or inner groin muscle specifically thehold and to stop and like how all of
that is kind of unpacked for you becauseyou have that left and right side.
That's It's, yeah.
Sounding awesome.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
And I bet there's also a lotof the, you know, I mean, of
course, like you did music, right?
And, and there's so many researchnowadays with how music really helps
with our like, like math skillsand brain and, and all of that.
So I feel like it's just allfor you, like coming together.
Um, what I want to know is youhad moments, right, like growing
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up where you are always like.
Thinking about, well, what should I be?
And, uh, now you're coming into thisfull circle where you're realizing
it's not always from the perspectiveof like, what, what do I need to be?
Or what should I be?
What do I ought to be for the world?
But it's like, what do I reallywant for myself that's gonna
give me joy and, and what's gonnamake it feel like home for me?
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And I feel like.
Like what you saidearlier, it became a joke.
Well go grab your skates, Kim.
Go grab your skates.
If something wasn't workingout, go grab your skates.
And I was like, that'skind of like your home.
It became your, your magicso sauce in your home.
What would you say to Young Kim now,like every time Young Kim has that.
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Thing in her mindset and herthought pattern where she doesn't
believe in herself because shewould rather appease what she
thinks other people want from her.
What would you say to that little Kim now?
Well, being back home, it's beenvery, um, obviously going through.
Like recognizing where I came from.
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I'm from a very small town inOklahoma that's, it's different in
the Midwest than it is, you know, onthe coast and the medium, like, um,
sort of poverty levels, you know.
And, uh, I kind of forgot like whatI come from, to be honest, until I
was back here and then, you know, Imean, I, I didn't forget, but I just
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like forgot how far I went I guess.
Like I forgot.
I think at some point I had to forget,like there was a lot of hurdles that
I had to go over that a lot of otherpeople did, but in some ways I.
That poverty that I came from was actuallymy strong suit because it allowed me a
to, you know, suck it out and like stayin the industry and keep moving forward.
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It gave me sort of preservationand, um, creative abilities.
Um, and it also like kept me working.
Like I was always kind of constantlyworking and so I used to like sort of be
sort of a ashamed of that, but now I'mlike, wow, that's actually like the reason
that I was like on the road forever.
'cause I could deal with it.
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I like had this career a littlebit because of it, you know?
And I think.
I've been in light of that and like,um, I, I, I've been going through all
of the family photos and everythingand seeing the me skating and like me
in pageants, it was very interesting.
Like I saw like this very, um.
I saw the age in which you couldsee sort of my posture change and
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like my insecurities creep in and Icould see it, like, I could see all
of a sudden me being like, oh, I'mso excited that I'm actually here.
And here I was this like prettylittle girl, you know, with load
of talent and like, you know, sortof apologizing for my existence.
And I think that in general, that'slike a big note that I'm coming into.
And when I'm skating, I'm like, I didn'thave to apologize for my existence.
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Like how would I skate?
How would I move?
How would I talk?
I think that that's like perfectionismand then you have like perfectionism
in there that like creates theproblems because then you're here.
So then you got third place insteadof first place, which you would've
got if you were, you know, notapologizing for your existence.
You know, for
people who are listening and don't seewhat you're doing, like the hunching of
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the shoulders are kind of cowering back.
Mm-hmm.
And then just boom, likethe expression mm-hmm.
Of opening up the shouldersand just being you like it's.
Awesome to watch.
Yeah.
Continue on.
Sorry.
And when I've been skating at the rinkfor fun, you know, which I rarely do,
I'm normally sort of practicing if I'mthere, but sometimes I'll skate around
for fun and like I've been experiencing.
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Okay, like, Kim, don'tapologize for your existence.
You know, like, and what I see immediatelyis I. Stop looking down at the ground
and I start looking up, you know, likein the rink, I can trust the surface.
I don't need to look down.
I look up and all of a suddenmy posture goes up and then it's
like a totally different Kim.
You know?
So I guess maybe that's likewhat I would say to her.
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And I think I would in addition tothat, say to her like, I just like
recently, like literally maybe like.
A week or two ago.
I feel like in a lot of waysI feel like a failure in life.
You know, I don't feel like Iachieved the grand goals I had,
but ultimately what were my goals?
Like my goals were to like get meout of this town, which I did, and
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to like make a living in the arts.
Which I did.
Which you did?
Yeah.
And you're doing, yeah.
You know, to travel the world making art,which I did, you know, to be on TV and
film, which I did, you know, like, uh, beof influence for people, you know, which,
which I get to do with the skating, like,and teaching people to skate on Instagram.
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So I'm like, so, you know,it doesn't feel like.
I got where I want it to be becauseI expected it to be different.
You know, I think all that's like GenXs and, you know, and young millennial
or millennials, you know, life is thatwe're all, like, we were all told we'd
be able to buy a house by this time.
We were all told, we'd be like morecomfortable with our jobs that especially,
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oh, you went to college, like, youknow, you got graduated with honors.
Like, good going, like, you'regonna, you're gonna be able
to, but it's just, it's not.
I guess that's, you know, what I wouldsay to her, like, just like, relax,
you know, stop apologizing for yourexistence and just, you know, I guess
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accept the ride you'll get there.
But it's like, it doesn't, it's not gonnalook the way we thought it would, I guess.
Yeah.
What would have helped you, um,as a kid to, what do you think?
Like, just looking back, you know,part of the reason why we kinda, um,
brought the Wildly Wealthy Life Podcastback is for us, you know, a wildly
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wealthy life is really like steppinginto your own, you know, like your own.
Life.
Like your own power.
Your own energy.
You said identity.
Identity, yeah.
Your own identity and, andliving that to the fullest.
Right.
And it doesn't matter what people say,oh, this is what success should be.
No, it's your definition of afulfilling and, and an exceptional life.
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And, but I really believe that a lot ofthat has to do with our, um, upbringing
and our mindset as we're growing up.
Uh, we are so, you know.
Open to learning when we're kids.
And so anything that peopletell us, we believe it.
Like I remember, I rememberas a kid, someone telling me
like, oh yeah, you can't sing.
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You know, and I. I, I took thaton like as an identity that I'm
just someone who's trying to sing,but I actually really can't sing.
I actually really have a terrible voice.
But that one voice, you know, tolike, I I took that on as an identity.
What would have really helped you, orwhat would help kids in general, you
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think, um, to be able to push past of thothose mindset and self-limiting beliefs?
Well.
I too had people tell me I couldn't sing.
I also wasn't over actor, you know?
Um, and would certainly neverhave a career in the arts.
I had my mother who was incrediblysupportive of everything I did, and then
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I had my father and stepmother and thatside of the family that was the opposite.
So I too heard a lot about my lackof talent and possible future,
and it affected me gravely.
And you know, how we were talking about.
When I'm skating, if I stop apologizingfor my existence and all of a sudden I
look up and then I, my posture's better.
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And now as we discussed,my physics are now better.
'cause if your head's off, your axisis off, you know, and like, you know,
you're compensating somewhere, youknow, um, you know, so obviously
I'm skating better and we can assumethat I'm more magnetic, right?
Whenever I am not in thatplace of like, you know, in
those negative thoughts, right?
So.
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For me, my, one of mine wasthat I couldn't sing on tune.
And I remember, um, I had acounselor early on and she's lovely.
Um, Dr. Jill Grove,and she, um, shout out.
Yeah, she's little shout out.
She's amazing.
And she made me do an exercise.
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And this is what I would suggest forsomeone in this circumstance, and that is.
She made me okay sing.
She made me sing like alittle like kid songs, right?
And like Mary had a little Lamband ro and that kind of stuff.
She said, when you drive home today,sing those songs and I want you to pay
attention to the thoughts in your head.
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Right?
So I was doing it and I'm all like,Mary had a little lamb, like, I don't
want, I'm most afraid to like havethe, the voice that I had, you know?
And she was just like, you'reoutta tune this and that.
You know that note,your voice sound closed.
This, you know, like she is just off,you know, talking as I was singing,
you know, like she's not there anymore.
But she used to just have like athousand terrible things to say, right.
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I was like, wow, this is really bad.
And so I went back the next week,told my counselor like I did it,
and boy, she's really terrible.
You know, this is all the things she said.
And then my counselorwas like, okay, good.
Now I want you to go home and on your wayhome today, I want you to put on the radio
and I want you to listen to your favoriteartists, and I want you to listen to
them with the same critical voice, right?
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Oof.
Yeah, but I listened to like one of myfavorite epic singer artists, and I'm all
like, oh, she's kind of outta tune there.
Like, well, you know, like she sure hadsome slimming her throat on that note.
You know?
Like, I started hearing it and Iwas like, oh, like, so, you know,
music isn't about being perfect.
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Like, you know, maybe thesedays it's weird with, you
know, auto tuning, whatever.
Mm-hmm.
It's still not, you know, uh, you know,I think Chapel Rowan's showing us that,
and I, I'm not sure how I feel abouther, but she can sing and she is singing
and, you know, I listened to her.
I did like a deep dive of her.
And then I went on Spotify, listened tomyself, and I'm like, oh, like what's the,
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you know, what's the sound difference?
What's the, like, you know, what, whatis the production level sound like?
You know, this and that.
And it was interesting.
My overall impression was like, wow.
My music's really joyous, evenwhen I'm talking about like
sort of socially progressivethings or like, you know, anger.
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Like there's still this senseof like joy and hopefulness.
And then when I was going through allthe family pictures, I'm like, wow.
Like I'm always like big cheesy grin Kim.
You know, like, like Iguess like my, my natural.
State is sort of joy and kindness.
You know, I think we struggle and likeall of us have been, like, the pandemic
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was tough, but I think I, I had theforesight and I feel in my life, I
don't know if other people in, in othercareers, but especially in the arts or
failing this, where sort of like thepandemic was tough, but it's like been
tougher after like, it's like the fallout,you know, that's like been, you know.
Harder to deal with and therewas a lot of support during the
(36:15):
pandemic, but after the pandemicthey were like, oh, everyone's fine.
Right?
You're back to work.
And we're, you know, kind of like,no, we're actually not back to work.
And you know, like, you know, so,um, even through the dark times,
like I still find myself to.
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Have a sense of joy and humor about lifeand maybe, you know, we were talking
about identities and like maybe that's anidentity that I'm beginning to recognize.
Like I never thought of myself that way.
Right?
I never wanted to bethat even necessarily.
I. As a musician, I alwayswanted to be very serious.
All my songs were very serious.
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And then my most famous songsare Cannonball Before You Fall.
Or, you know, sticks andStones May Break Your Bones.
You know, they're all like,these do the roller skit songs.
Right.
So, you know, like the, the lighter I gotwith that, like, even though that wasn't
like, you know, in my mind, my identity,but you know, perhaps that is, and when
I look back through all the pictures orwhen I listened to myself Chapel Row and
(37:20):
then listen to Kim Manning, I'm like, oh.
Yeah, same, same.
But like, wow, like she's selling alot of this and I'm selling a lot of
like, Hey everybody, let's just bejoyous and happy and spirit filled.
You know?
So like, that's what I would say.
It's an exercise, you know, youhave to find those limiting beliefs.
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Do the action that you're havingdifficulties with whatever it is,
singing, skating, whatever it is.
Pay attention to theway you're thinking now.
Watch someone and or listen to someone whodoes what you do that you totally admire.
I guarantee if you watch meskate, you will see mistakes.
You know what I mean?
Like I know that they will, Treywill tell you all about 'em.
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Trey hears them, Trey,Tina, he'll hear me.
Don't have to look at me.
I'll be like, Kim, you aren'tpushing off that toast off enough.
I'm like, how did you hear that?
You know?
So it's like, you know, likewe're all in practice, I guess.
So that's, that's what I would say.
I.
Someone to guide them.
'cause obviously as a child, likeI feel like, you know, we, we
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don't know how our minds work.
You know, nobody teaches us how,how our minds work at school.
Nobody tells us, people teach us howto do math and science and history, but
nobody tells us that, oh, our brainshave a very specific way of working.
And if we don't know how it works,it can actually literally take over
our entire life in, in a, in a nuts.
So good way, way.
(38:47):
And I just, what I really love isthat someone was there to be able to
guide you through that and then youwere, you became conscious of it and
you were able to navigate around that.
And the other thing that I really tookaway from that, when you were saying, you
know, you just stand strong because you'reno longer apologizing for who you are.
Guess what?
You actually skate better because yourhead is in line with your body and now
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you're more imbalanced in your skates.
Talk about how, like just the waywe were created as human beings.
When we're in alignment,even in our posture.
Mm-hmm.
That's really how we were made tofunction in this world, is fully
in alignment of who we are as humanbeings, because then we can step into
our power, which is just incredible.
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I, I just, I got chills when you talkedabout that, Kim, because I'm like, wow.
Simply by being in alignmentin your body physically
makes a change.
Well, in skating.
And Ariel's perfect for that 'causeof the moving, you know, the fact
that we're moving, we'll immediatelyknow, why am I not spending, oh,
well, because you know, your, youknow, hips are forward or whatever.
(39:49):
Right.
Or you pick up a little wobblebecause you're not quite Yes, exactly.
You know?
Yeah.
That's great.
Wobble,
wobble, wobble.
Yeah.
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I love too, the, um, I, when you weretalking about like the, the person
who told you like, you're missing allthese notes with Mary had a little
lamb in that, and I'm thinking back,I had an art teacher, um, and I think
it's how we take things in too, right?
I had an art teacher thattold me, um, nothing about the
art or painting or anything.
She was good on that end, butshe also was like, oh, you're
such a good, um, like rural boy.
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Like, you're not gonna go anywhere.
You're gonna be one of those who like.
Lives and dies in this little town.
And I grew up in a little small town, uh,in between Buffalo and Rochester, like
cornfields and cabbage, like all over.
And, um, that I was like, you wannasee me do something, tell me I can't,
and then I'm gonna go after that.
And, um, just as you said that,I'm just thinking back of like the
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different voices and how, you know,we have to be careful on, on who
we say certain things to, but also.
Aware of what we're saying, you know, whenwe let those, those words out because they
have so much power and, um, that got me toget up and move, like I've been to mm-hmm.
I mean, around the world also,uh, just through travel and
vacations and all that kinda stuff.
Moved to la um, I. Almost, not completelyout of spite, but it was like, I don't
(42:54):
wanna be just, I don't wanna be just here.
No.
You know?
Um, but there's other things that, youknow, I, I didn't fly as far as hard,
um, in different aspects because the samethings that you're saying, you know, you
have these thoughts, you have these fears,you have these words, um, that kind of.
Lean into and you know, I've hada big martial arts background, so
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I was like looking at getting intothe stunt world and everything too.
And then part of me was like,
hmm,
I dunno if I'm make it like there's thatwhole nine to five world, I can just like.
Be in a job and I can makemoney and I can provide, and I
can do that stuff on the side.
But, you know, kind of gave, I mean,honestly like gave up on that, those
passions and, you know, can't tellanybody what to do, but like, going
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after the what brings you to thelife brings, you know, go after what,
what, where your identity really lies.
I think those are some ofthe more important things.
And
yeah,
listen, listen to the wordsthat really uplift you.
Mm-hmm.
And listen to the words thatadd to your life, you know,
instead of like taken away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's just great thingsthat you're saying, Kim.
I'm just,
yeah, thank you Kim.
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You know when I read your bio itsaid something like, uh, Kim is many
things to different people, you know?
And it's true because you have hada whole world of different things.
It's so funny 'cause I would bewatching some random things on Netflix.
I'm be like, oh, that's Kim.
I saw you one time onlike Jane the Virgin.
And I was like, I wasliterally sleeping that
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day.
They were like, that girlhere, she's sleeping.
She's perfect.
She gets it, move her, and they like move.
They literally movedsomeone out, moved me over.
I was afraid I was in trouble'cause I like, I had no sleep.
And I was like, because I had a rehearsalthe night before in Anaheim for skating.
And so I was in rehearsal until 11:00PM and then I got my call time oh
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3:00 AM in, oh my gosh, Redondo Beach.
Oh gosh.
I had to go back to Hollywood.
I had about two hours of sleep.
Had to come in curlers.
Right.
Show up.
Yeah.
So I literally was asleep like this.
Like, 'cause they, we werein a waiting room, right?
And they had us like waiting and itwas so hard to stay awake, you know?
So I was asleep and the nextthing I know they were like, Hey
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miss, miss, you know, wake you.
They didn't say wake up, butthey woke me up, miss, miss.
They're like, move over here, move over.
And I was like, what's.
Going on.
You know, they like putme right between me.
They're like, she's perfect.
She gets it.
She's
so, you never know.
Sleeping on the job is actually okay.
There was one time it worked for me.
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That's amazing.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
I would just see you randomly onon different things and, and I
knew that you were in the Barbiemovie, but when I was on the plane
and I was like, oh look, it's Kim.
It's just really funseeing you everywhere.
I feel the
same way.
I. Think of you and I like seeus spinning or I see you spinning
around, smiling with me being like,it's okay, Kim, you can do it.
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Just put right back here.
I'd be like, oh, ka.
Oh, you're right.
I can do it.
Thanks, KA.
You know, like that's sort of like, you
know,
you still, uh, when you're here inLA do you still go to Circ School
or no, you haven't been there?
Well, I haven't
been, you know, I started doing thehair suspension and then, you know,
now I've been doing a lot of SR wheels.
(46:04):
You know and mm-hmm.
I saw you with the steering wheeland I've been on it when someone
just takes me along for the ride.
It's a trip.
It's a trip.
It's a trip.
It is so
scary.
Yeah.
Be worried.
Like your finger.
It really is scary.
It's scary.
I mean, I haven't done the upsidedown yet, so I'm not there at
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that level of scare, but alreadylike the, for the fingers.
But like the, it's scary.
I mean, it's, it's heavyand it's got its own life.
And I'm not like, um, a ball person orjuggles or frisbees or throw me your keys.
Like if you throw me your keys.
There's a 90% chanceI will not catch them.
Like, I'll be like, Ugh, Ineed throw 'em over there.
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You know, like, I'm not,like, that's not how I roll.
So it's that, that part's scaryfor me, but it's also, it's heavy.
Well, I wear skates when I do it, sothat actually made it a lot better.
Oh, you mean to catch the keys?
Actually that maybe would work.
'cause I have really fast like musclereaction, so I maybe would have enough
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time to like catch myself with the skates.
You know?
I'm like, oh, ooh, no, I got it.
You know?
Yes.
Can't put your skates on.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
But anyway, yeah, so the whatever,you know, just I, who knows?
And like I started doing the cereal'cause I wanted to, and, and then,
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you know, I start posting it and.
Be virals, like, can we repostevery single one of these?
And you have more, you know,it's like people like love it.
And I'm like, well, youknow, and I just did a job.
And they were like, oh, willyou, you know, bring the sr.
Well, I was, I've actually beenlike requested to bring the S wheel
a lot and I'm like, oh, you know,because I, again, you know, you
(47:51):
get stuck on what you can't do.
Like I know I can't coin roll.
I know I'm not very goodat spending in it yet.
Like, I know I don't havethese like sort of like.
Big, you know, like I'm not areal SR wheel person, right?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not a real contortionist.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not a world class skater, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like I could say all these things.
I'm not.
I'm not, I'm not.
Yeah.
But the truth is, it's likejust me skating around, like
spinning the stupid SR wheel.
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Like people like that more thanme doing crazy tricks skating
in a thousand splits, you know?
Yeah.
It's like, like, I don't know, like,you know, it's sometimes it's just like
whatever's most visually app pleas.
Whatever's most visuallypleasing for everyone.
Yeah.
Versus that which is like themost technically exciting.
Yes.
Like or gratifying for ego.
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Look what I can do, you know?
And everyone's like, ah, that was cool.
That thing, where's young by her neck?
I don't know, whatever.
But man, when she did thosesplits, you know, like.
Yeah, you just gotta do the splits then.
It's always the splits.
Ever since I was young, likeevery family like gathering,
they're like, Kat, do the splits.
I'm like, what am I a split monkey?
What?
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You're the split we're we aresplit monkeys, but there's
no splits with the wheel.
Because like, you know, oh yeah, true.
You, you can't because I'm kindof holiness, so I can't really
get down to the ground, you know?
Yeah.
But, um, maybe I'll find a way,but I have yet to figure it out.
If
anyone could find a way, you would
probably,
you know, as your bio said, like your,a lot of things to different people.
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But to me, you know, when Ithink about you, Kim, it's just.
It's this woman that I met atCirc School with the biggest
smile and the kindest soul.
Like, I just really, every time Iget to see you, I'm just like, oh,
you're just such a bright light.
So thank you for being that.
Because you know, in, I think thatin this industry sometimes, um, when
people do a lot of like amazing thingsand you, you do, you, you become.
(49:39):
Accomplish in like what you do sometimesthere's just that ego, you know?
And, and it's like, like,I'm, I'm, I'm too cool now.
You know?
And, and I never, I feel like youare just one of those people who's
always like, remained so grounded.
Um, and I. In who you are as aperson and like your, your desire
to help people, you know, with,with your skating and all that.
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So I just really appreciate thatabout you and thank you for showing
up for yourself over and over again.
'cause when you show up for yourself,um, it becomes an encouragement to other
people and that's actually how otherpeople are impacted by who you are,
simply by showing up fully as yourself.
So thank you for that.
Well, you know, I have to reallygive that to George Clinton.
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Um, he taught me that, he taught me allof that, you know, you know him and Gary
Schneider, uh, who's, who's now passed.
But, you know, I remember Gary, he,when you did really good, he'd be
like, you know, like, you'd be like,oh, you know, good job tonight.
When you kind of got thatlike, you know, oh, I did good.
He'd like, well, you know, but youknow, it, he'd always back down You.
(50:48):
You know, and George would alwayskind of, you know, say the same thing.
Like they were, they were neverreally like, I don't know, the, the
better you got, sort of the greateran understanding you had for how much
further there was to go, I guess.
And, um, I think that itwas never about talent.
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Like there are so many talentedpeople in the world, you know?
Um.
In Parliament, like the way that you gotinto that band was like, yeah, you had to
be talented, but it was more about likea, a spirit and a and a soul that you
had and you, and, and in order to likehave that spirit, you couldn't sort of.
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You had to kind of have a, a sense ofhumbleness, like they came hand in hand.
And so, you know, I guess that'slike the nature of funk, right?
It's funky for a reason.
Right.
You know, and like, and I guesslike that's when I said, you
know, working with Trey, youknow, being a and tres public too.
Like, but you know, he's this.
Pristine world champion skater.
And I was like, oh, Ithink I'm a funkadelic.
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Like, I kind of get it, likeI have to tell him sometimes,
like when he is training me, I'mlike, Trey, I'm a funkadelic.
Don't forget.
Like, you know, there's like, you know,like, you know, there's a a sense of like.
George installed in me a sensethat soul is more important than
ability, and that your spirit ismore important than your ability and
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the message that you're channelingis more important than your ability.
Wow, that's great.
Well,
so you know.
That's where it's at for me, I guess.
That's amazing.
I love that.
Well, I feel like thatwas a very strong note.
I know we could probably goon forever, but that was a
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pretty strong note to end on.
So thank you, Kim.
I really appreciate yourtime spending with us.
Babe, do you have any last words for Kim?
I mean, I was gonna ask like what, howwould you define a wildly wealthy life?
Oh yeah, last one, but you kind of.
Did it a little bit 'cause you kindaalready did it, but how about in
your own words,
you know,
if in your own words.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's ultimatelywhat it came down for.
You know, the wildly, wildly wealthylife because wealth is, um, comparative.
Right.
Like in LA a person who is poor andfeels poor, trust me, I know, comes
to a small town in Oklahoma andthey're gonna be like Rich, you know,
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they're gonna be on the rich sideof town in their nice hybrid car.
Literally, you know, that's me.
Like, you know,
you know, I don't have a Tesla, but I havea Prius, you know, so it's like, um, you
know, money is, wealth is comparative.
You know, health is real wealth andspiritual health and sort of balance
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with your soul and feeling happy withwho you are and knowing that you're.
Following your dailymessages as they come.
And you know, like you were talking aboutidentities and you know, in some ways
finding your identity is the process oflosing identities, you know, and when
you're losing those identities and thenyou're able, and I feel like right now
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I'm going through a huge shift in thatwith, you know, my mother passing and
with everything that's happening in theindustry and with Trey getting sick.
You know, it's like, okay, Kim, likeI've, I've accomplished this, far
gone this far, and I, I have thismuch more time left in my life.
Physical, active sort of life, right?
What do I wanna do with those years?
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You know, what, what do I want to do?
You know?
And I think that a person that'sliving in that, you know, place.
Of doing what they want and making choicesso that they're set up in the future
so that they can do what they want.
You know, on some level, like obviouslythings change and we don't have the
(54:51):
perfect knowledge, but, you know, makingthose choices so that you're like,
well, in 10 years I really hope that Ican still be doing cart Wilson splits.
Well then I probably shouldkeep stretching up doing PT now.
Start adding some theand, start,you know, eating, whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like.
I think that that is, and, andhaving the ability to do that.
Like even just to be able to affordnice food, you know, healthy food, you
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know, like that is, you know, maybethat is, like, I was thinking just
this morning, well, what would happenif I can't afford nice food anymore?
Like, I, I, I have to startgardening like all the time.
Right.
You know?
So even that's, well having like enoughland and water where you can, you know,
have your own garden and your own chickensor whatever, you know, you want, you know.
(55:36):
To me, that's what it is.
Yeah,
that's great.
Thank you, Kim.
I appreciate it.
We enjoyed chatting with you.
This is so fun.
And, uh, where can people find you?
Well, um, I'm on Instagram andTikTok and Facebook occasionally.
I'm Kim Manning's, space Queen.
I also am on YouTube and uh, Pinterest.
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Sometimes you can find me there.
And I have a website if you wanna.
To roller skate, uh, skate like apro.com, and that's skate with an
eight, SK eight, like a pro.com.
And uh, you can sign up for my freeprogram and learn to fall, which is, you
know, good if you ever just wanna evengo to the rink for a birthday party.
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And, uh, yeah.
That's awesome.
I, I feel like I actually need that,
right?
I, I mean really everyone should.
Yeah.
I'm the worst at skating.
Uh, Kim.
Like really the worst.
I It's hilarious.
It's, it's too funny.
It, it am not good.
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Well, you sound brave, so.
You sound brave enough and Iknow you can do a cannonball, so
I could probably get you there.
We could get you there.
That's true.
Between bravery and a cannonball,anyone can learn to skate.
That's so true.
You know, like
a squat, like a primal squat.
Yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
Those are the two
necessities for learning to skate.
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It is very fun though, watching people,and I love, I do love every time I
get to see you, um, and your videos.
It is, it's just fun.
Well, thanks.
Thank you, Kim.
This has really been wonderful.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Thanks guys.
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I think at some point I had to forget,like there was a lot of hurdles that
I had to go over that a lot of otherpeople did, but in some ways I. That
poverty that I came from was actuallymy strong suit because it allowed me a
to, you know, suck it out and like stayin the industry and keep moving forward.
(00:21):
It gave me sort of preservationand, um, creative abilities.
Um, and it also like kept me working.
Like, I was always kind of constantlyworking and so I used to like sort of be
sort of a ashamed of that, but now I'mlike, wow, that's actually like the reason
that I was like on the road forever.
'cause I could deal with it.
(00:42):
I like had this career a littlebit because of it, you know?
And I think I've been.
In light of that and like, um, I,I, I've been going through all of
the family photos and everything andseeing the me skating and like me in
pageants, it was very interesting.
Like I saw the age in which you couldsee sort of my posture change and like my
(01:02):
insecurities creep in and I could see it.
Like, I could see all a sudden mebeing like, oh, I'm so excited, but
I'm actually here and here I was thislike pretty little girl, you know, with
loads of talent and like, you know,sort of apologizing for my existence.
And I think that in general, that's.
Like a big note that I'm cominginto him when I'm skating.
I'm like, I didn't have toapologize for my existence.
(01:24):
Like how would I skate?
How would I move?
How would I talk?
I think that that's like perfectionism andthen you have like perfectionism in there
that like creates the problems becausethen you're here, so then you got third
place instead of first place, which youwould've got if you were, you know, not
apologizing for your existence, you know?
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Today's guest is Kim Manning.
Kim is a champion artistic roller skater.
She's been skating since she was threeyears old and owns her own entertainment
company called Royal Rollers, as wellas works with night Rollers, moxie
skate team, and other pro skate groups.
Kim and her partner Trey Knight.
Our regular featured acts for LagunitasBeer Circus, as well as Debbie
(02:12):
Allen's Hot Chocolate Nutcracker.
Kim Manning's also been on a lot oftelevision appearances in the role of
actor, singer, dancer, or P Funk All Star.
Uh, Kim has appeared on TheTonight Show with Jay Leno, the
Late Show with David Letterman.
She's been a part of BET fortheir silver anniversary special
and the 46 annual Grammy Awards.
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As an actor, Manning has made appearanceson Boston Public, the Bernie Mac Show.
Uh, she's also known as Peaches and theVH one Reality Show Flavor of Love, which.
17 million of y'all,uh, I've already seen.
But, uh, she does an excellent job onscreen, in person, on stage, and we're
(02:53):
very excited to have her on our show.
Awesome.
Well stay tuned.
Hey, my name is Kat.
And I'm Lee.
And welcome to the
Wildly Wealthy Life Podcast.
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Each episode focuses on how a foundationof brilliant minds and brave hearts.
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wealthy, wildly wealthy life.
Well, in just a second, we're goingto bring Kim in, but before that
we'll do a little quick recap onwhat we loved about the episode.
That's right.
And uh, when you get a chance to hearher story, you're gonna hear how she's
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really great at finding her identityand identifying different triggers
in her own life and being able tolike, grow and adapt from those I.
Standpoints.
Yeah.
And I think my favorite part about,uh, what Kim, uh, discussed in
our conversation today is the toolthat she shared that really helped
her overcome some of the limitingbeliefs that she had as a child.
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And I think that you're not gonna wannamiss this episode, so make sure you
stay tuned all the way till the end.
Here we go.
O.
Well, Kim, thank you for being here today.
It is such a pleasure to have you and tosee your smile, to see your face, because
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it's been a while since I've seen you.
And, um, I just wanna start with,you've been skating for a very, very,
very long time, which is amazing.
What keeps it magical for you?
You know, skating.
I think a lot of peoplethat skate feel this way.
And maybe it's just like one of thosethings that it's sort of like if
(05:05):
it's your destiny or whatnot, but youknow, it's just, it never gets old.
I mean, I think it's, it's one of thoseskill sets you'll, you'll never master.
Um, you know, even when you're like, uh,train night, who, who's my, my, my old
partner and that he's been coaching meand he's a world champion in our sport,
and I remember one of my students.
(05:25):
Asked me once, you know thatif Trey went to a coach, would
he have anything to teach him?
And I was, that's a good question.
So I asked Trey, and Trey was like, well,of course, why else would I get a coach if
I didn't expect him to teach me something?
You know?
And I was like, well, yeah, I guess,you know, the skating never ends.
And so that in itself kind ofperpetuates the excitement about it.
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Um, I don't know.
I, I, I didn't skate forabout four years of my life.
I maybe longer 'cause I quit.
Well, I roller bladed for awhile, so I guess that counts.
I quit competitively skatingwhen I was like 16 or 17.
Then I roller bladed I guessfor about a year or so.
And so, yeah, I didn'tskate all through college.
And then like my first year out ofcollege, after I graduated from college,
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I just had all these dreams when I wassleeping that I would be, um, skating
and I would be doing an air best.
You know, like guess we call it aspiral, but I would be doing an air
best and I always had this big smile.
And I realized like, wow.
And so I had my mom mail me my old skates,which at that time were from when I
was like 16 years old or 15 years old.
(06:33):
So my feet had grown, but Istuffed my feet in 'em and,
and started skating again.
I actually got my first job within aweek for Oprah Winfrey of all things.
So, you know, it, it'sfunny how that works, right?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's awesome.
That's really cool.
Was there anything that you learned,um, did you actually like, get
(06:55):
a chance to interact with her?
Was there anything that you learnedfrom that experience with her?
You
know, I didn't really get to interactwith her, but it was this private
party that was for, I believe only fourindividuals and she was one of those four.
So, and then it was like aprince and a whatever, and,
and we were doing Anna Carina.
(07:16):
They do like a book club.
And, um, so we were performing AnnaCorina, which was like incredible.
But um, the woman who was thedirector, she was, she played the
waitress in PeeWee's Big Adventure.
She was absolutely in Incre, youknow, the redhead like, oh my God,
she was incredible and I learned alot from her and actually continued
(07:38):
to work with her as an acting coach.
And so, you know, you know,I guess that's how it works.
You know, your first, you know, youget these Hollywood, I was already
singing with George Clinton at thetime, but hadn't thought about skating
on P-Funk stage for like anotheryear or so before that happened.
So yeah, this was kind of like thefirst time sort of my Hollywood
career was like happening, but.
(08:00):
That's really cool.
So, took a break, did schooldream, started flooding you?
Was there, I mean, I guess like once youstep into that, that circle and you had
that immediate like, um, gratification'cause you had the first job and
whatnot, um, was it just an accelerationfrom right then, or did you have to
(08:21):
build up to where you are currently?
What, what was kind oflike the, the life cycle.
Yeah, the list, God, it waslike, gosh, it was like a, it's
the never ending cycle, right?
So I did that and then shortly afterthat I got a film as an actress being in
a roller derby called Room 33 and like,you know, we were roller derby girls.
(08:43):
So, okay.
That started to happen.
And then, um, why did Iput on, I must have just.
Put them my skates on myfeet one day in UNK tour.
And George was like,everybody was like, oh my god.
You know?
And it's weird because I wentto college for music theater.
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So, you know, I, I wasactually double major.
I studied engineering as well,but my degree in music theater and
um, so it's really weird that I.
Didn't skate because I thoughtI was trying to be serious.
You know?
I was trying to like act andsing and dance and do things
that would further my career.
Like I never, and all my collegefriends are like Kim, like the
(09:24):
people that were in theater with me.
They're like, why did we not know?
Why do we not know that you did this?
You know?
And I was thinking in my mind, likeno one would ever wanna see me skate.
Like I just, I don't know, as anartistic skater really kind of.
Like, we're so technicalthat we just know.
We get focused on what we'renot versus what we are.
(09:45):
You know?
And I quit figure skating, right?
Whenever I should have been entering thejunior world class, so like right when I
should have been ready to be, you know,best in the world, but I quit, right?
So there's always, in my mind,I wasn't good enough, right?
So anyway, um, yeah.
So one day I put my skates on my feet inP-Funk and everybody was like, oh my gosh.
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And then from that pointforward it was like, um.
Kim, you're wearing the skates.
And George actually had a phrase, uh,George Clinton, and he would say, um, you
know, go put on your skates and try it.
So like, if we'd, if they'd be doinglike a little dance, like a little, you
know, they're doing their like, cooldance moves and I'm like trying to do
it and I am probably like, don't blend.
(10:29):
And then George is like, Kim,go get your skates and try it.
Right.
So that makes sense.
Right.
And he'd be right.
Normally I put on my skatesand actually he's right.
All of a sudden now I lookcool like everybody else.
Right.
Then it came a thing where it waslike, even if I was singing, like if
I couldn't hit the high note, it'd belike, go get on your skates and try it.
Or if like I wasn't singing itwith the right inflection, go
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get on your skates and try it.
You know, even if my skates werelike back at the hotel, you know,
it became like a joke and, and in mylife that's kind of what it became.
So, um, you know, I quit that band and.
2015 and I thought I was gonna focuson my, uh, solo singing career.
And that's about the time that I met you.
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I was also really interested inthe circus arts and I just, that
kind of came outta left field.
I always had this sensethat I wanted to fly.
And so I just started training thecircus, and I thought too, oh, if
I had like a trapeze, then I couldwear my skates on smaller stages
and have like a center point.
It was a, it's a wrong idea there.
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I need more space, but whatever.
You know, it.
That was what got me there.
And so I'm studying circus.
I quit P-Funk because I wannafocus on my solo career.
And then I got, um, an agentthat works for like background
specialty people and does like,you know, through my yoga school.
And she got me this Apple commercialrollerskating and I. Met Trey Knight
(11:57):
there, and then Trey Knight does, he'sthe world champion who I mentioned
earlier, and he does the stunts,the skate stunts that, you know, I
had been wanting to do for about 20years but could never find a partner.
And um, so he was like, Hey.
You know, let's, let's do youknow, have you ever tried this?
And so then I started doing that.
(12:18):
And then right away, you know,we started booking things.
We booked the, uh, the Olympic commercialfor Toyota and we did Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.
And then we started, um, doing, we did alot of Nita Beer circus and did a bunch
of different like private events andit all my sort of music career contacts
all of a sudden were like, because of.
(12:39):
That was, I was so involved withthe Burning Man community and that
underground culture as a musician.
So they all knew me as likeKim from Wanderlust or Kim
from, you know, the singer.
But like all of a sudden they were like,oh, you got a, you got a circus act.
You know, we got circuses.
So, so, you know, we werekind of all of a sudden.
(13:02):
That all of it was weird how that momentumthat I created as a musician overlapped
quite nicely into circus artists.
And, um, so I don't know.
And then we were doing that upuntil around Covid and then Trey got
cancer, um, and he's been fighting,uh, the, the Good Battle and mm-hmm.
Currently is cancer free.
Wow, that's great.
(13:24):
Ever since.
Yeah.
It's really amazing.
He had stage four and it moved through.
I'm like trying to count how many organs?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Ithink six of his organs.
I believe that's correct.
Oh gosh.
Wow.
Um, so, um, yeah, but you know, again,I had the opportunity to really see
what a world champion is and backto the ME that was 16 and gave up my
(13:49):
dreams of trying to become a worldchampion, you know, world class Gator.
Um, I understood actually like.
Why?
There were a lot of reasons,like there was not that level of
coaching where I was at in Oklahoma.
There was not really the financial meansfor me to like compete at that level.
Um, but also, like, I don't, that's alot of grit, like to be a world champ.
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I saw it in him like, you know,he faced cancer like a world
champion, you know, and, um.
I was kind of like, oh, I'm a funkadelic.
Like I'm gonna use these things, youknow, can we just go sing for a little
bit and then get back to the hard work?
You know, I understood myselfa little bit better and seeing
his experience fight with that.
(14:35):
But, um, yeah, so Covid came and,you know, people were teaching that,
like maybe it just started skating.
They don't, they didn'tunderstand the principles.
There's like an actual, you know,it's like a 300 year old technology.
So there's principles that arejust sort of physics, you know,
they're just, it's physics.
It's not, you know, we don'tneed to reinvent the wheel.
It's physics.
(14:55):
It works in a certain way.
It's like an airplane works, youknow, because of the physics.
And so, um, I felt like just this profoundneed to like help people because like in
particular, people are saying, oh, youcan't stop using your toe stop, which is.
Ridiculous.
And like, it's called a toe stop.
You know, like, because it's justto stop with your toe, you know?
(15:17):
But you know, that's like why it has thename, but for some reason, I mean, I don't
understand why, because it's not good todo it in Derby when you have people that
are aggressively coming from behind you.
But you know, provided that that'snot the situation, you know.
Yes, it's the proper way.
And so these are like foundationsof skating and we're like getting
(15:38):
lost because if you don't practicestopping with your toe A, people
aren't learning how to stop properly.
And so then they're sort ofskating wildly outta control.
And then B, you're not building innergroin strength to actually push off
and have control as a skater thatyou need to in doing that stop.
So anyway, I'm gettingtoo deep with it all.
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Yeah,
yeah.
Uh, with the, um, your whole story,like you think about the, the creativity
that you had as a child, going up toabout what I think 16, 17, when you,
you had the break, um, pressing intoengineering, so getting like that side of
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your brain to, to really click and then.
Just how everything is really kindof culminating and come together
for you is like a beautiful story,although on its own, it's really
awesome just hearing that from you.
And, um, it's more of a comment, Iguess question, but when, uh, one
thing you had mentioned was some ofthe, the beliefs that you had Yeah.
(18:38):
That were kind of against maybe like your.
Planned Destiny, um, or what you thought,you know, what you, what you thought,
um, how, what was it like for you kindof getting past that and, and was there
a particular moment that was like,alright, now I'm, I'm all in on, on this.
(19:00):
Mm-hmm.
And I, I believe in myselfto be able to, to, to really
just run with this right now.
Well, okay.
So when I was a child.
I told my mom, I wannabe a singing actress.
Mind you, I was trying tobecome an Olympian at the same
time, but I just didn't thinkof that as a career, you know?
Yeah.
And, um, we already went over that, right?
(19:20):
So, uh, then when I graduatedfrom college, everybody was
like, oh, you gotta focus.
You can't be a singer and an actress, Kim.
Right?
Right.
Kat.
Mm-hmm.
You can't DA singer, you know, dancing.
You know, you gotta do, like,you gotta pick one, right?
So I was like, okay, you know.
I'll drop my acting agent.
I'm gonna be a singer.
And then for like, uh, for waytoo long, I was just focused and I
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was like, you know, doing all thethings that I ought to do, doing the
marketing, the flyers, the puttingout the CDs, the like tours nonstop.
Nonstop tours.
I'm telling you guys for likethree or four years of my life, I
was only home for 11 days a year.
And that would be like twodays at a time, you know?
And every day I was in a different city.
(20:05):
And so I would go from tour with.
Parliament and then I would leave, youknow, parliament Funkadelic, it's one
band for those of you guys that don'tknow, um, I would leave it and then
I would go on tour with my own band.
I would like literally go fromone tour to another and it was
just, you know, virtual nonstop.
And, um, and then I, you know, I, Ihad a breakup with my, uh, solo band,
(20:29):
which was called Wanderlust at the time.
And I saw the, like howfragile everything was.
Um.
Within the music business.
And I saw how, uh, difficult it is as afemale, uh, to be in the music business
because, um, that band was moving sofast and a large part of it was, it
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was me and, um, another man, Lance.
And we were the fronts of theband and was, I mean, I really
liked that project a lot.
I thought it was great.
I loved singing with him andI loved our project, but it
also really helped to have.
A male be in a band like venuesthat wouldn't book me before all
of a sudden would, and it, itdidn't make much sense, you know?
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And it was just very like dishearteningto like finally see what was happening
on the other side and recognizing it.
And um, and so I quit that bandand then about a month later
I quit Parliament Punk Ade.
Right?
So I was just in this place of like.
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Being done with doing allthe things that I should.
You know, like I had this band thatwas like, we had a record deal in hand
and we were starting to headline majorfestivals, and then I had this other
band, which is of course well known.
And you know, you get to meet everybodyand stay in the band and you're in
the industry and all these things.
And I was just like, I justcouldn't do it anymore.
(21:53):
So then I decided I'm gonna quit doingthat thing where you like manifest
destiny and you are like, oh, this iswhat I'm gonna do and this is my goals,
and blah, blah, blah, and dah, dah dah.
And I just like waslike, I'm done, I'm done.
I'm just gonna become a trackies artist.
Right?
And then I spent like way toomuch money to do that, you know?
And way.
Tons.
I went back to that old me thatalthough I wasn't a world class
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skater, I was still skating 40 hoursa week pretty much my whole childhood,
you know, 30 to be realistic.
But like, you know, I wentback to that mode and I went
back into being an athlete.
Um, I guess that was it.
I just was so disheartened by music.
I almost feel sad sayingit, that I just went into.
Being an athlete.
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And, and, and I began to just dothat, which I was inspired by.
And I had this phrase where I woulddo not what I, what I ought to, but
what I want to, what do I wanna do?
Not versus what should I do,what am I supposed to do?
And then that was kind of when everythingjust started to fall into place.
And like you said, you know, I, I trainedthe circus for like, I don't know, five
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years, six years before I met Trey.
And so then when Trey and Istarted doing those spinny stunts.
Although my stomach still had to, youknow, get used to it, my body was trained
for it, you know, like my bo and he saidthat, 'cause I'm, I'm big as a fire.
I'm five, seven and a half, so I'm,I'm five, seven and three quarters,
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you know, so I'm, I'm not five big yet.
You gotta grab that corridor.
Okay.
Yeah, I know, right?
It was really the quarter under, I'm not.
Five eight.
But, um, so anyway, but youknow, it's like, that's it.
I used to wanna be tall and I'm giant, youknow, but like, I'm very big for what I
do, but it's because of the strength thatI built in the circus training that it
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was no problem for Trey and other partnersto lift me because of, you know, I was.
So it was weird how that just kind ofcame into place and then all of a sudden,
you know, and then I think to continue onwith your point is like, and then whenever
Covid hit and, uh, we all started doing,you know, I started doing my tutorials.
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All of a sudden, that was wheneverit came clear that the, the math
and engineering training that I.
Had came into play because of, I basicallyteach people from the perspective of
like mechanical engineering, you know,I'm kind of multi-variable cal. I'm
breaking down multi-variable calculusfor people, like in a way that I can
sort of see it quite easily, you know?
(24:22):
Yeah, I was gonna say like that'sthe part, like where you just,
uh, like in that little moment ofexplaining like how the toe break
works and then the inner core mm-hmm.
Or inner groin muscle specifically thehold and to stop and like how all of
that is kind of unpacked for you becauseyou have that left and right side.
That's It's, yeah.
Sounding awesome.
Yeah.
(24:42):
Yeah.
And I bet there's also a lotof the, you know, I mean, of
course, like you did music, right?
And, and there's so many researchnowadays with how music really helps
with our like, like math skillsand brain and, and all of that.
So I feel like it's just allfor you, like coming together.
Um, what I want to know is youhad moments, right, like growing
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up where you are always like.
Thinking about, well, what should I be?
And, uh, now you're coming into thisfull circle where you're realizing
it's not always from the perspectiveof like, what, what do I need to be?
Or what should I be?
What do I ought to be for the world?
But it's like, what do I reallywant for myself that's gonna
give me joy and, and what's gonnamake it feel like home for me?
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And I feel like.
Like what you saidearlier, it became a joke.
Well go grab your skates, Kim.
Go grab your skates.
If something wasn't workingout, go grab your skates.
And I was like, that'skind of like your home.
It became your, your magicso sauce in your home.
What would you say to Young Kim now,like every time Young Kim has that.
(25:49):
Thing in her mindset and herthought pattern where she doesn't
believe in herself because shewould rather appease what she
thinks other people want from her.
What would you say to that little Kim now?
Well, being back home, it's beenvery, um, obviously going through.
Like recognizing where I came from.
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I'm from a very small town inOklahoma that's, it's different in
the Midwest than it is, you know, onthe coast and the medium, like, um,
sort of poverty levels, you know.
And, uh, I kind of forgot like whatI come from, to be honest, until I
was back here and then, you know, Imean, I, I didn't forget, but I just
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like forgot how far I went I guess.
Like I forgot.
I think at some point I had to forget,like there was a lot of hurdles that
I had to go over that a lot of otherpeople did, but in some ways I.
That poverty that I came from was actuallymy strong suit because it allowed me a
to, you know, suck it out and like stayin the industry and keep moving forward.
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It gave me sort of preservationand, um, creative abilities.
Um, and it also like kept me working.
Like I was always kind of constantlyworking and so I used to like sort of be
sort of a ashamed of that, but now I'mlike, wow, that's actually like the reason
that I was like on the road forever.
'cause I could deal with it.
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I like had this career a littlebit because of it, you know?
And I think.
I've been in light of that and like,um, I, I, I've been going through all
of the family photos and everythingand seeing the me skating and like me
in pageants, it was very interesting.
Like I saw like this very, um.
I saw the age in which you couldsee sort of my posture change and
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like my insecurities creep in and Icould see it, like, I could see all
of a sudden me being like, oh, I'mso excited that I'm actually here.
And here I was this like prettylittle girl, you know, with load
of talent and like, you know, sortof apologizing for my existence.
And I think that in general, that'slike a big note that I'm coming into.
And when I'm skating, I'm like, I didn'thave to apologize for my existence.
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Like how would I skate?
How would I move?
How would I talk?
I think that that's like perfectionismand then you have like perfectionism
in there that like creates theproblems because then you're here.
So then you got third place insteadof first place, which you would've
got if you were, you know, notapologizing for your existence.
You know, for
people who are listening and don't seewhat you're doing, like the hunching of
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the shoulders are kind of cowering back.
Mm-hmm.
And then just boom, likethe expression mm-hmm.
Of opening up the shouldersand just being you like it's.
Awesome to watch.
Yeah.
Continue on.
Sorry.
And when I've been skating at the rinkfor fun, you know, which I rarely do,
I'm normally sort of practicing if I'mthere, but sometimes I'll skate around
for fun and like I've been experiencing.
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Okay, like, Kim, don'tapologize for your existence.
You know, like, and what I see immediatelyis I. Stop looking down at the ground
and I start looking up, you know, likein the rink, I can trust the surface.
I don't need to look down.
I look up and all of a suddenmy posture goes up and then it's
like a totally different Kim.
You know?
So I guess maybe that's likewhat I would say to her.
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And I think I would in addition tothat, say to her like, I just like
recently, like literally maybe like.
A week or two ago.
I feel like in a lot of waysI feel like a failure in life.
You know, I don't feel like Iachieved the grand goals I had,
but ultimately what were my goals?
Like my goals were to like get meout of this town, which I did, and
(29:31):
to like make a living in the arts.
Which I did.
Which you did?
Yeah.
And you're doing, yeah.
You know, to travel the world making art,which I did, you know, to be on TV and
film, which I did, you know, like, uh, beof influence for people, you know, which,
which I get to do with the skating, like,and teaching people to skate on Instagram.
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So I'm like, so, you know,it doesn't feel like.
I got where I want it to be becauseI expected it to be different.
You know, I think all that's like GenXs and, you know, and young millennial
or millennials, you know, life is thatwe're all, like, we were all told we'd
be able to buy a house by this time.
We were all told, we'd be like morecomfortable with our jobs that especially,
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oh, you went to college, like, youknow, you got graduated with honors.
Like, good going, like, you'regonna, you're gonna be able
to, but it's just, it's not.
I guess that's, you know, what I wouldsay to her, like, just like, relax,
you know, stop apologizing for yourexistence and just, you know, I guess
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accept the ride you'll get there.
But it's like, it doesn't, it's not gonnalook the way we thought it would, I guess.
Yeah.
What would have helped you, um,as a kid to, what do you think?
Like, just looking back, you know,part of the reason why we kinda, um,
brought the Wildly Wealthy Life Podcastback is for us, you know, a wildly
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wealthy life is really like steppinginto your own, you know, like your own.
Life.
Like your own power.
Your own energy.
You said identity.
Identity, yeah.
Your own identity and, andliving that to the fullest.
Right.
And it doesn't matter what people say,oh, this is what success should be.
No, it's your definition of afulfilling and, and an exceptional life.
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And, but I really believe that a lot ofthat has to do with our, um, upbringing
and our mindset as we're growing up.
Uh, we are so, you know.
Open to learning when we're kids.
And so anything that peopletell us, we believe it.
Like I remember, I rememberas a kid, someone telling me
like, oh yeah, you can't sing.
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You know, and I. I, I took thaton like as an identity that I'm
just someone who's trying to sing,but I actually really can't sing.
I actually really have a terrible voice.
But that one voice, you know, tolike, I I took that on as an identity.
What would have really helped you, orwhat would help kids in general, you
(31:57):
think, um, to be able to push past of thothose mindset and self-limiting beliefs?
Well.
I too had people tell me I couldn't sing.
I also wasn't over actor, you know?
Um, and would certainly neverhave a career in the arts.
I had my mother who was incrediblysupportive of everything I did, and then
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I had my father and stepmother and thatside of the family that was the opposite.
So I too heard a lot about my lackof talent and possible future,
and it affected me gravely.
And you know, how we were talking about.
When I'm skating, if I stop apologizingfor my existence and all of a sudden I
look up and then I, my posture's better.
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And now as we discussed,my physics are now better.
'cause if your head's off, your axisis off, you know, and like, you know,
you're compensating somewhere, youknow, um, you know, so obviously
I'm skating better and we can assumethat I'm more magnetic, right?
Whenever I am not in thatplace of like, you know, in
those negative thoughts, right?
So.
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For me, my, one of mine wasthat I couldn't sing on tune.
And I remember, um, I had acounselor early on and she's lovely.
Um, Dr. Jill Grove,and she, um, shout out.
Yeah, she's little shout out.
She's amazing.
And she made me do an exercise.
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And this is what I would suggest forsomeone in this circumstance, and that is.
She made me okay sing.
She made me sing like alittle like kid songs, right?
And like Mary had a little Lamband ro and that kind of stuff.
She said, when you drive home today,sing those songs and I want you to pay
attention to the thoughts in your head.
(33:42):
Right?
So I was doing it and I'm all like,Mary had a little lamb, like, I don't
want, I'm most afraid to like havethe, the voice that I had, you know?
And she was just like, you'reoutta tune this and that.
You know that note,your voice sound closed.
This, you know, like she is just off,you know, talking as I was singing,
you know, like she's not there anymore.
But she used to just have like athousand terrible things to say, right.
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I was like, wow, this is really bad.
And so I went back the next week,told my counselor like I did it,
and boy, she's really terrible.
You know, this is all the things she said.
And then my counselorwas like, okay, good.
Now I want you to go home and on your wayhome today, I want you to put on the radio
and I want you to listen to your favoriteartists, and I want you to listen to
them with the same critical voice, right?
(34:29):
Oof.
Yeah, but I listened to like one of myfavorite epic singer artists, and I'm all
like, oh, she's kind of outta tune there.
Like, well, you know, like she sure hadsome slimming her throat on that note.
You know?
Like, I started hearing it and Iwas like, oh, like, so, you know,
music isn't about being perfect.
(34:49):
Like, you know, maybe thesedays it's weird with, you
know, auto tuning, whatever.
Mm-hmm.
It's still not, you know, uh, you know,I think Chapel Rowan's showing us that,
and I, I'm not sure how I feel abouther, but she can sing and she is singing
and, you know, I listened to her.
I did like a deep dive of her.
And then I went on Spotify, listened tomyself, and I'm like, oh, like what's the,
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you know, what's the sound difference?
What's the, like, you know, what, whatis the production level sound like?
You know, this and that.
And it was interesting.
My overall impression was like, wow.
My music's really joyous, evenwhen I'm talking about like
sort of socially progressivethings or like, you know, anger.
(35:32):
Like there's still this senseof like joy and hopefulness.
And then when I was going through allthe family pictures, I'm like, wow.
Like I'm always like big cheesy grin Kim.
You know, like, like Iguess like my, my natural.
State is sort of joy and kindness.
You know, I think we struggle and likeall of us have been, like, the pandemic
(35:53):
was tough, but I think I, I had theforesight and I feel in my life, I
don't know if other people in, in othercareers, but especially in the arts or
failing this, where sort of like thepandemic was tough, but it's like been
tougher after like, it's like the fallout,you know, that's like been, you know.
Harder to deal with and therewas a lot of support during the
(36:15):
pandemic, but after the pandemicthey were like, oh, everyone's fine.
Right?
You're back to work.
And we're, you know, kind of like,no, we're actually not back to work.
And you know, like, you know, so,um, even through the dark times,
like I still find myself to.
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Have a sense of joy and humor about lifeand maybe, you know, we were talking
about identities and like maybe that's anidentity that I'm beginning to recognize.
Like I never thought of myself that way.
Right?
I never wanted to bethat even necessarily.
I. As a musician, I alwayswanted to be very serious.
All my songs were very serious.
(36:57):
And then my most famous songsare Cannonball Before You Fall.
Or, you know, sticks andStones May Break Your Bones.
You know, they're all like,these do the roller skit songs.
Right.
So, you know, like the, the lighter I gotwith that, like, even though that wasn't
like, you know, in my mind, my identity,but you know, perhaps that is, and when
I look back through all the pictures orwhen I listened to myself Chapel Row and
(37:20):
then listen to Kim Manning, I'm like, oh.
Yeah, same, same.
But like, wow, like she's selling alot of this and I'm selling a lot of
like, Hey everybody, let's just bejoyous and happy and spirit filled.
You know?
So like, that's what I would say.
It's an exercise, you know, youhave to find those limiting beliefs.
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Do the action that you're havingdifficulties with whatever it is,
singing, skating, whatever it is.
Pay attention to theway you're thinking now.
Watch someone and or listen to someone whodoes what you do that you totally admire.
I guarantee if you watch meskate, you will see mistakes.
You know what I mean?
Like I know that they will, Treywill tell you all about 'em.
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Trey hears them, Trey,Tina, he'll hear me.
Don't have to look at me.
I'll be like, Kim, you aren'tpushing off that toast off enough.
I'm like, how did you hear that?
You know?
So it's like, you know, likewe're all in practice, I guess.
So that's, that's what I would say.
I.
Someone to guide them.
'cause obviously as a child, likeI feel like, you know, we, we
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don't know how our minds work.
You know, nobody teaches us how,how our minds work at school.
Nobody tells us, people teach us howto do math and science and history, but
nobody tells us that, oh, our brainshave a very specific way of working.
And if we don't know how it works,it can actually literally take over
our entire life in, in a, in a nuts.
So good way, way.
(38:47):
And I just, what I really love isthat someone was there to be able to
guide you through that and then youwere, you became conscious of it and
you were able to navigate around that.
And the other thing that I really tookaway from that, when you were saying, you
know, you just stand strong because you'reno longer apologizing for who you are.
Guess what?
You actually skate better because yourhead is in line with your body and now
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you're more imbalanced in your skates.
Talk about how, like just the waywe were created as human beings.
When we're in alignment,even in our posture.
Mm-hmm.
That's really how we were made tofunction in this world, is fully
in alignment of who we are as humanbeings, because then we can step into
our power, which is just incredible.
(39:29):
I, I just, I got chills when you talkedabout that, Kim, because I'm like, wow.
Simply by being in alignmentin your body physically
makes a change.
Well, in skating.
And Ariel's perfect for that 'causeof the moving, you know, the fact
that we're moving, we'll immediatelyknow, why am I not spending, oh,
well, because you know, your, youknow, hips are forward or whatever.
(39:49):
Right.
Or you pick up a little wobblebecause you're not quite Yes, exactly.
You know?
Yeah.
That's great.
Wobble,
wobble, wobble.
Yeah.
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I love too, the, um, I, when you weretalking about like the, the person
who told you like, you're missing allthese notes with Mary had a little
lamb in that, and I'm thinking back,I had an art teacher, um, and I think
it's how we take things in too, right?
I had an art teacher thattold me, um, nothing about the
art or painting or anything.
She was good on that end, butshe also was like, oh, you're
such a good, um, like rural boy.
(42:09):
Like, you're not gonna go anywhere.
You're gonna be one of those who like.
Lives and dies in this little town.
And I grew up in a little small town, uh,in between Buffalo and Rochester, like
cornfields and cabbage, like all over.
And, um, that I was like, you wannasee me do something, tell me I can't,
and then I'm gonna go after that.
And, um, just as you said that,I'm just thinking back of like the
(42:30):
different voices and how, you know,we have to be careful on, on who
we say certain things to, but also.
Aware of what we're saying, you know, whenwe let those, those words out because they
have so much power and, um, that got me toget up and move, like I've been to mm-hmm.
I mean, around the world also,uh, just through travel and
vacations and all that kinda stuff.
Moved to la um, I. Almost, not completelyout of spite, but it was like, I don't
(42:54):
wanna be just, I don't wanna be just here.
No.
You know?
Um, but there's other things that, youknow, I, I didn't fly as far as hard,
um, in different aspects because the samethings that you're saying, you know, you
have these thoughts, you have these fears,you have these words, um, that kind of.
Lean into and you know, I've hada big martial arts background, so
(43:15):
I was like looking at getting intothe stunt world and everything too.
And then part of me was like,
hmm,
I dunno if I'm make it like there's thatwhole nine to five world, I can just like.
Be in a job and I can makemoney and I can provide, and I
can do that stuff on the side.
But, you know, kind of gave, I mean,honestly like gave up on that, those
passions and, you know, can't tellanybody what to do, but like, going
(43:35):
after the what brings you to thelife brings, you know, go after what,
what, where your identity really lies.
I think those are some ofthe more important things.
And
yeah,
listen, listen to the wordsthat really uplift you.
Mm-hmm.
And listen to the words thatadd to your life, you know,
instead of like taken away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's just great thingsthat you're saying, Kim.
I'm just,
yeah, thank you Kim.
(43:56):
You know when I read your bio itsaid something like, uh, Kim is many
things to different people, you know?
And it's true because you have hada whole world of different things.
It's so funny 'cause I would bewatching some random things on Netflix.
I'm be like, oh, that's Kim.
I saw you one time onlike Jane the Virgin.
And I was like, I wasliterally sleeping that
(44:16):
day.
They were like, that girlhere, she's sleeping.
She's perfect.
She gets it, move her, and they like move.
They literally movedsomeone out, moved me over.
I was afraid I was in trouble'cause I like, I had no sleep.
And I was like, because I had a rehearsalthe night before in Anaheim for skating.
And so I was in rehearsal until 11:00PM and then I got my call time oh
(44:36):
3:00 AM in, oh my gosh, Redondo Beach.
Oh gosh.
I had to go back to Hollywood.
I had about two hours of sleep.
Had to come in curlers.
Right.
Show up.
Yeah.
So I literally was asleep like this.
Like, 'cause they, we werein a waiting room, right?
And they had us like waiting and itwas so hard to stay awake, you know?
So I was asleep and the nextthing I know they were like, Hey
(44:57):
miss, miss, you know, wake you.
They didn't say wake up, butthey woke me up, miss, miss.
They're like, move over here, move over.
And I was like, what's.
Going on.
You know, they like putme right between me.
They're like, she's perfect.
She gets it.
She's
so, you never know.
Sleeping on the job is actually okay.
There was one time it worked for me.
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That's amazing.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
I would just see you randomly onon different things and, and I
knew that you were in the Barbiemovie, but when I was on the plane
and I was like, oh look, it's Kim.
It's just really funseeing you everywhere.
I feel the
same way.
I. Think of you and I like seeus spinning or I see you spinning
around, smiling with me being like,it's okay, Kim, you can do it.
(45:42):
Just put right back here.
I'd be like, oh, ka.
Oh, you're right.
I can do it.
Thanks, KA.
You know, like that's sort of like, you
know,
you still, uh, when you're here inLA do you still go to Circ School
or no, you haven't been there?
Well, I haven't
been, you know, I started doing thehair suspension and then, you know,
now I've been doing a lot of SR wheels.
(46:04):
You know and mm-hmm.
I saw you with the steering wheeland I've been on it when someone
just takes me along for the ride.
It's a trip.
It's a trip.
It's a trip.
It is so
scary.
Yeah.
Be worried.
Like your finger.
It really is scary.
It's scary.
I mean, I haven't done the upsidedown yet, so I'm not there at
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that level of scare, but alreadylike the, for the fingers.
But like the, it's scary.
I mean, it's, it's heavyand it's got its own life.
And I'm not like, um, a ball person orjuggles or frisbees or throw me your keys.
Like if you throw me your keys.
There's a 90% chanceI will not catch them.
Like, I'll be like, Ugh, Ineed throw 'em over there.
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You know, like, I'm not,like, that's not how I roll.
So it's that, that part's scaryfor me, but it's also, it's heavy.
Well, I wear skates when I do it, sothat actually made it a lot better.
Oh, you mean to catch the keys?
Actually that maybe would work.
'cause I have really fast like musclereaction, so I maybe would have enough
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time to like catch myself with the skates.
You know?
I'm like, oh, ooh, no, I got it.
You know?
Yes.
Can't put your skates on.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
But anyway, yeah, so the whatever,you know, just I, who knows?
And like I started doing the cereal'cause I wanted to, and, and then,
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you know, I start posting it and.
Be virals, like, can we repostevery single one of these?
And you have more, you know,it's like people like love it.
And I'm like, well, youknow, and I just did a job.
And they were like, oh, willyou, you know, bring the sr.
Well, I was, I've actually beenlike requested to bring the S wheel
a lot and I'm like, oh, you know,because I, again, you know, you
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get stuck on what you can't do.
Like I know I can't coin roll.
I know I'm not very goodat spending in it yet.
Like, I know I don't havethese like sort of like.
Big, you know, like I'm not areal SR wheel person, right?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not a real contortionist.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not a world class skater, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like I could say all these things.
I'm not.
I'm not, I'm not.
Yeah.
But the truth is, it's likejust me skating around, like
spinning the stupid SR wheel.
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Like people like that more thanme doing crazy tricks skating
in a thousand splits, you know?
Yeah.
It's like, like, I don't know, like,you know, it's sometimes it's just like
whatever's most visually app pleas.
Whatever's most visuallypleasing for everyone.
Yeah.
Versus that which is like themost technically exciting.
Yes.
Like or gratifying for ego.
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Look what I can do, you know?
And everyone's like, ah, that was cool.
That thing, where's young by her neck?
I don't know, whatever.
But man, when she did thosesplits, you know, like.
Yeah, you just gotta do the splits then.
It's always the splits.
Ever since I was young, likeevery family like gathering,
they're like, Kat, do the splits.
I'm like, what am I a split monkey?
What?
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You're the split we're we aresplit monkeys, but there's
no splits with the wheel.
Because like, you know, oh yeah, true.
You, you can't because I'm kindof holiness, so I can't really
get down to the ground, you know?
Yeah.
But, um, maybe I'll find a way,but I have yet to figure it out.
If
anyone could find a way, you would
probably,
you know, as your bio said, like your,a lot of things to different people.
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But to me, you know, when Ithink about you, Kim, it's just.
It's this woman that I met atCirc School with the biggest
smile and the kindest soul.
Like, I just really, every time Iget to see you, I'm just like, oh,
you're just such a bright light.
So thank you for being that.
Because you know, in, I think thatin this industry sometimes, um, when
people do a lot of like amazing thingsand you, you do, you, you become.
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Accomplish in like what you do sometimesthere's just that ego, you know?
And, and it's like, like,I'm, I'm, I'm too cool now.
You know?
And, and I never, I feel like youare just one of those people who's
always like, remained so grounded.
Um, and I. In who you are as aperson and like your, your desire
to help people, you know, with,with your skating and all that.
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So I just really appreciate thatabout you and thank you for showing
up for yourself over and over again.
'cause when you show up for yourself,um, it becomes an encouragement to other
people and that's actually how otherpeople are impacted by who you are,
simply by showing up fully as yourself.
So thank you for that.
Well, you know, I have to reallygive that to George Clinton.
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Um, he taught me that, he taught me allof that, you know, you know him and Gary
Schneider, uh, who's, who's now passed.
But, you know, I remember Gary, he,when you did really good, he'd be
like, you know, like, you'd be like,oh, you know, good job tonight.
When you kind of got thatlike, you know, oh, I did good.
He'd like, well, you know, but youknow, it, he'd always back down You.
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You know, and George would alwayskind of, you know, say the same thing.
Like they were, they were neverreally like, I don't know, the, the
better you got, sort of the greateran understanding you had for how much
further there was to go, I guess.
And, um, I think that itwas never about talent.
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Like there are so many talentedpeople in the world, you know?
Um.
In Parliament, like the way that you gotinto that band was like, yeah, you had to
be talented, but it was more about likea, a spirit and a and a soul that you
had and you, and, and in order to likehave that spirit, you couldn't sort of.
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You had to kind of have a, a sense ofhumbleness, like they came hand in hand.
And so, you know, I guess that'slike the nature of funk, right?
It's funky for a reason.
Right.
You know, and like, and I guesslike that's when I said, you
know, working with Trey, youknow, being a and tres public too.
Like, but you know, he's this.
Pristine world champion skater.
And I was like, oh, Ithink I'm a funkadelic.
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Like, I kind of get it, likeI have to tell him sometimes,
like when he is training me, I'mlike, Trey, I'm a funkadelic.
Don't forget.
Like, you know, there's like, you know,like, you know, there's a a sense of like.
George installed in me a sensethat soul is more important than
ability, and that your spirit ismore important than your ability and
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the message that you're channelingis more important than your ability.
Wow, that's great.
Well,
so you know.
That's where it's at for me, I guess.
That's amazing.
I love that.
Well, I feel like thatwas a very strong note.
I know we could probably goon forever, but that was a
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pretty strong note to end on.
So thank you, Kim.
I really appreciate yourtime spending with us.
Babe, do you have any last words for Kim?
I mean, I was gonna ask like what, howwould you define a wildly wealthy life?
Oh yeah, last one, but you kind of.
Did it a little bit 'cause you kindaalready did it, but how about in
your own words,
you know,
if in your own words.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's ultimatelywhat it came down for.
You know, the wildly, wildly wealthylife because wealth is, um, comparative.
Right.
Like in LA a person who is poor andfeels poor, trust me, I know, comes
to a small town in Oklahoma andthey're gonna be like Rich, you know,
(53:21):
they're gonna be on the rich sideof town in their nice hybrid car.
Literally, you know, that's me.
Like, you know,
you know, I don't have a Tesla, but I havea Prius, you know, so it's like, um, you
know, money is, wealth is comparative.
You know, health is real wealth andspiritual health and sort of balance
(53:43):
with your soul and feeling happy withwho you are and knowing that you're.
Following your dailymessages as they come.
And you know, like you were talking aboutidentities and you know, in some ways
finding your identity is the process oflosing identities, you know, and when
you're losing those identities and thenyou're able, and I feel like right now
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I'm going through a huge shift in thatwith, you know, my mother passing and
with everything that's happening in theindustry and with Trey getting sick.
You know, it's like, okay, Kim, likeI've, I've accomplished this, far
gone this far, and I, I have thismuch more time left in my life.
Physical, active sort of life, right?
What do I wanna do with those years?
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You know, what, what do I want to do?
You know?
And I think that a person that'sliving in that, you know, place.
Of doing what they want and making choicesso that they're set up in the future
so that they can do what they want.
You know, on some level, like obviouslythings change and we don't have the
(54:51):
perfect knowledge, but, you know, makingthose choices so that you're like,
well, in 10 years I really hope that Ican still be doing cart Wilson splits.
Well then I probably shouldkeep stretching up doing PT now.
Start adding some theand, start,you know, eating, whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like.
I think that that is, and, andhaving the ability to do that.
Like even just to be able to affordnice food, you know, healthy food, you
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know, like that is, you know, maybethat is, like, I was thinking just
this morning, well, what would happenif I can't afford nice food anymore?
Like, I, I, I have to startgardening like all the time.
Right.
You know?
So even that's, well having like enoughland and water where you can, you know,
have your own garden and your own chickensor whatever, you know, you want, you know.
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To me, that's what it is.
Yeah,
that's great.
Thank you, Kim.
I appreciate it.
We enjoyed chatting with you.
This is so fun.
And, uh, where can people find you?
Well, um, I'm on Instagram andTikTok and Facebook occasionally.
I'm Kim Manning's, space Queen.
I also am on YouTube and uh, Pinterest.
(55:59):
Sometimes you can find me there.
And I have a website if you wanna.
To roller skate, uh, skate like apro.com, and that's skate with an
eight, SK eight, like a pro.com.
And uh, you can sign up for my freeprogram and learn to fall, which is, you
know, good if you ever just wanna evengo to the rink for a birthday party.
(56:20):
And, uh, yeah.
That's awesome.
I, I feel like I actually need that,
right?
I, I mean really everyone should.
Yeah.
I'm the worst at skating.
Uh, Kim.
Like really the worst.
I It's hilarious.
It's, it's too funny.
It, it am not good.
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Well, you sound brave, so.
You sound brave enough and Iknow you can do a cannonball, so
I could probably get you there.
We could get you there.
That's true.
Between bravery and a cannonball,anyone can learn to skate.
That's so true.
You know, like
a squat, like a primal squat.
Yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
Those are the two
necessities for learning to skate.
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It is very fun though, watching people,and I love, I do love every time I
get to see you, um, and your videos.
It is, it's just fun.
Well, thanks.
Thank you, Kim.
This has really been wonderful.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Thanks guys.
All right, friends, that's a wrap ontoday's episode of Wildly Wealthy Life.
We hope you're feeling firedup and ready to take on the
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