November 22, 2024 • 42 mins
In this episode of Wildly Wealthy Life, Kat and Lee sit down with Jennifer Kumiyama, known as Kumi, a performer, disability rights advocate, and Citywide Accessibility Coordinator for Long Beach. Kumi shares her journey as a singer, her work on Disney's Aladdin, and her role as Dahlia in the animated movie Wish. Together, they discuss overcoming identity crises, balancing multiple passions, and using creativity in government roles. Kumi offers insights on cultivating a growth mindset in children, the importance of mentorship, and why empowering youth is essential. Join us to be inspired by Kumi’s journey of resilience, creativity, and service.
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00:00 Introduction to Jennifer “Kumi” Kumiyama: Singer, advocate, and performer
05:00 Kumi’s family background and how teamwork shaped her leadership values.
06:50 Transition from Disney’s Aladdin to a career in city government
09:03 Working with youth and helping kids with disabilities find their strengths
10:49 Kumi’s love for performing and what drives her passion
12:34 Navigating an identity crisis after Aladdin ended
20:38 Kumi’s role as Citywide Accessibility Coordinator and her vision for Long Beach
26:14 Why mentorship and guidance are vital for youth, especially those with disabilities
38:25 Kumi's definition of a Wildly Wealthy Life
Long Beach Disability Pride
https://www.lbdisabilitypride.com/
Wish (2023)
https://www.disney.com/movies/wish
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11304740/
"Ms Wheelchair is Disney Resort performer - 2010-07-02"
YouTube, uploaded by Orange County Register, 24 July 2015,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfLU1UYfXo
Connect with Kumi
https://www.instagram.com/kumirocks/?hl=en
jnkumiyama@gmail.com
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Kumi (00:00):
I think having the mindset of being able to be passionate and having
(00:05):
the capacity to allow yourself to bepassionate about more than one thing
in life and the thing, those multiplethings for me, our community and the
arts, um, in addition to, of course,like my family and things like that.
But I think.
It's completely possible to existin multiple worlds, I guess,
(00:25):
professionally, you know, when theopportunity for Wish came along, um,
that was just another testament toGod providing for my performer's soul.
I never really closed that door, right?
Um, mentally or emotionally.
Um, after I got over the identitycrisis, I was like, well, I can be both.
(00:46):
And.
That's exactly the way that I live.
Kat (00:58):
Today's guest is Jennifer Kumiyama, really known as Kumi.
She's a friend of mine and I workedwith her together on the show Aladdin
at Disney California Adventure.
She was born with anthrogryposisand uses a wheelchair daily.
Um, she earned a spot on WarnerBrothers reality TV show, Pop Stars,
and earned national accolades frommany publications, including Variety
(01:20):
Magazine and TV Guide, referring toher as the girl in the wheelchair,
whose voice blew everyone away.
Everyone out of the water and shereally does have an amazing voice.
If you get to hear her, listen to herin the movie, wish she is the voice of
Dahlia and she also won Miss wheelchair,California and Miss wheelchair,
America in 2011 as first runner up and.
(01:44):
During her reign, she really spread themessage of hope through her platform,
empowering children with disabilitiesto make their own dreams come true.
And we are just so excitedto share Kumi with you.
She is currently the City of Long BeachCitywide Accessibility Coordinator.
And I promise you, I know the catis in front of our camera right
now, and it's jiggling the camera.
(02:06):
But I promise you watch thison YouTube, you'll see the cat.
Um, you are not going towant to miss this episode.
She is incredible.
Hey, my name is Kat.
Lee (02:16):
And I'm Lee.
Kat (02:17):
And welcome to the
Lee (02:18):
Wildly Wealthy Life podcast.
In this show, we explore the journeyof what it means to live a truly
exceptional and fulfilling life.
Kat (02:27):
Each episode focuses on how a foundation of brilliant minds and
brave hearts Nurtured through thearts leads to lifelong success.
Lee (02:34):
Get inspired with actionable tips to foster a growth mindset,
leadership values, and creativityin children and adults, turning
their potential into lastingcontributions for their communities.
Kat (02:45):
We hope you embrace the challenge to shift your perspective as we equip
you and the next generation for a
Lee (02:52):
Wildly Wealthy Life.
Kat (03:01):
Well, in a moment, we're going to bring Kumi in, but before we
bring her in, babe, what was yourfavorite part about that interview?
Lee (03:08):
I liked Kumi's heart for people and her, her willingness to like, really
serve her community, but also justpeople at large, uh, her connection.
To the youth also was really touching.
I think seeing her come alive when she'sworking with those kids and the messaging
(03:31):
that she's able to share with them.
There's just so much in therethat is, is really special.
Kat (03:36):
Yeah, I really love, you know, I know I've known Kumi through our work
together on Aladdin, um, but I, you know,You know, I don't, I know her from there,
but it's not like we talk every day.
So I didn't even know, um, the stuffthat she does with the youth and,
um, especially, you know, youth withdisabilities and how she's really giving
them a way to know themselves a way toalso exercise their leadership values
(04:01):
and skills, a way to help them, uh, knowwho they are as people and their worth.
And so I just reallylove what Kumi is doing.
So if you're a parent, uh, or aneducator, and you just want some
tips on how to mentor the youth,this is an episode that's for you.
(04:27):
Well, Kumi, I want to get started with,um, you have done some pretty incredible
things and it's really awesome to justwatch you and just be such an inspiration
to so many people around you, you know,knowing you from Aladdin, like everybody
just loves you cause you are truly likean inspiration to everybody growing up.
(04:47):
What are some of the leadershipvalues that you feel like you
learned as a child that you carry on?
To now as an adult that has allowedyou to accomplish so many things.
Kumi (05:00):
I'm the oldest of six kids and my father was in the military and the
mindset in my household was you alleither swim together or you sink together.
And I think that really made us asthreatening and, and, and traumatic
as that sound, I think that reallymade us six kids learn how to.
(05:22):
Live as a unit and a team.
Um, and I think we really diddevelop those, uh, those team skills.
You know, we were there for each other.
Chores had to be done by a certain time.
So if one person was finishedbefore they'd help the other
person and vice versa, we were allresponsible for making sure that
our homework was done before dinner.
(05:43):
Um, so it was a lot of us sittingaround the table and helping
each other complete homework.
And of course our parents were thereto guide us and, and, and what have
you, but Um, you know, because therewas six of us, there was somebody
at the table who knew what somebodymight need help with in homework,
um, aside from me being the oldest.
So, um, you know, it was verymuch, um, that mentality in the
(06:04):
household that we are a team andthat we need each other to thrive.
And when somebody, um, needshelp, you're always there for
that person and vice versa.
Um, so I think that really, really,um, helped develop my mentality of kind
of, um, Really focusing on community.
I'm very, very close with mycommunity outside of my family.
(06:26):
Um, the people that I live next to andwith each other in this great city, like
it's the same thing when we were kids.
Um, you know, what does somebody need?
How can we help?
How can we connect them to theresources that they need to thrive?
Kat (06:39):
Now that you're sharing this, I could totally seem like, Oh
yeah, that's exactly how you werewhen we were working together.
That's really awesome.
Lee (06:45):
Do you see yourself like as the big sister when you step
into the room for everybody or?
Kumi (06:50):
So funny that you asked that because, um, when I started working after
Latin closed in the local councilman'soffice, I was a 36 year old intern.
Like that is not somethingthat you really hear of.
That's not normal.
Kat (07:04):
Yeah.
Kumi (07:04):
It's not typical.
I don't want to say normal, but, um,so I found myself really learning
people and having to be okay with,I don't have an issue with how
old you are, how old you're not.
Um, but if, you know, if you can helpme learn, better understand something,
um, so I can therefore help somebodyelse and do my job better, then, then
that's the kind of relationship ThatI'm open to work wise, but sometimes
(07:26):
I, you know, where I do definitelyfeel like sister, especially when I see
chaos and people stressed out, I'm like,everybody, stop, what are we doing?
What needs to be done now?
What can we not help that?
We just, we just have to let it go.
Cause there's not, sometimes there'snothing you can do about things.
So my mentality is always tohelp people differentiate.
(07:47):
What is worth stressing out aboutand what you have to kind of let go.
We can't have control over everything.
And, you know, we live in suchan urgency culture and it's so
unhealthy, you know, what needs tobe done right now in this moment.
Not everything is a priority.
We have to learn how toset realistic priorities.
Kat (08:06):
Yeah.
And that's already, again, anotherleadership skill that you have
actually being able to pinpoint,um, what is actually important right
now that's going to move the needle.
And then the other thing thatI really love is, uh, humility.
I think humility is such a, uh, leadershiptrait that I think gets really overlooked
and, uh, you know, going back to what yousaid about being an intern who's older,
(08:29):
then that's not usually the case, right?
But you stepped in being fully okay withlearning from someone younger than you.
And that really goes backto growth mindset, you know?
And so as a child, just looking back,how did you develop that growth mindset?
Especially, you know, withyour situation, right?
Like, how did you grow up?
thinking, okay, I am enough.
(08:51):
I can do things.
I am capable, like all of these things.
How did you develop that?
Or did you have a mentoraside from your parents?
Like, did you have like amentor that really helped you
and guide you through that?
Kumi (09:03):
Yeah, I think it was really fortunate to grow up in an environment
outside of like my immediate,immediate where like my extended
family was like, that's just Kumi.
That's how she, she's in a wheelchair.
She just thinks differentlyor sometimes she needs help.
Um, I think, I really found myself inkind of exercising growth mindset when
(09:23):
I hit about my thirties, right after Itook over the Miss Wheelchair California
Foundation, um, and was working at Disneyfull time, I was juggling multiple tasks,
including my day to day job, which, youknow, was the primary source of income
for, um, Me to do things outside of thatjob, like, like Miss Orchard, California.
So I think just relocate, well,I have to do the show now.
(09:45):
It started really simple.
I have to do the show.
Now I have to do these four shows.
What can I do during break?
I'm during breaks.
I prioritize things that I need todo, phone calls that I need to make.
And even today, like, you know, as aformer legislative staffer, um, I had
a great experience and I'm not knockingthat experience at all, but I think, cool.
Working in the political realm canreally lead to like an unhealthy
(10:09):
lifestyle of, you know, again, likeliving in that urgency culture or,
you know, prioritizing work overself and health and things like that.
Um, I think that's where I waslike, okay, what can I do now again?
And then what, what can I focus on later?
Because not everything is goingto be, you know, the best that it
(10:30):
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Receives the amount offocus that it deserves
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Lee (12:33):
I have a question because being in, in the politics side
of things and then, um, the Ms.
Wheelchair also with Aladdin, um, You'vebeen just exposed to different levels
of theater, of play, of creativity,just solving different problems in
different creative ways in that.
When did that creative bugkind of come to life for you?
(12:54):
Like, where did that start in your life?
Kumi (12:57):
I grew up in a very musical family.
instrumental vocal and creative too.
Um, like my mom was a very greatartist that can paint, you know,
drawing and things like that.
Um, but I think it really hit me likein middle school, uh, when we started
doing like curriculars, um, like thechoir joining the band and things like
(13:21):
that, and, um, I grew up in a Catholicchurch choir, um, and singing there.
And that was really fun for me.
Um, I learned a lot there.
Um, but then in the summer when I'd visitmy mom's father, my grandfather, um, he
was Southern Baptist and we would go toa Baptist church and then I would sing
(13:41):
with the choir at the Baptist church.
Now that's two.
Two completely different types of music.
I think realizing that there ismore types of music out there really
sparked this and I think, you know,my parents were like, okay, uh, uh,
every, every one of the kids had.
Something to do after school,um, it, most of the time it was
(14:04):
sports and with me, they werelike, well, what do you want to do?
And you have to do something.
You can't just do nothing.
I think essentially they're like,you have to get out of my house
after school because we need time.
All these kids need to go dotheir extracurriculars, but
I think it was really at thattime where I got bit by the bug.
You know, making friends and choirand theater and going to, um,
(14:24):
other shows, you know, like, uh,community theater or high school.
And then, you know, in highschool, going to like regional
theater and so on and so forth.
I think that's when I really realizedthat, um, singing and performing
was something that I could not livewithout and be happy and be satisfied.
Yeah.
Lee (14:42):
Cause you have such a, There's like a presence about you that I always
loved when I got to go to watch you guysdo the Aladdin show and that, and just
having you come out and just like yourfacial expression, just the joy of that,
but it's also like now thinking back,it's, you know, you really paved a way
for other, other people to have that.
And then now too, with.
(15:03):
Uh, Delia in, in Wish, there's justthat extra layer of like your, your
voice coming through to this likecharacter on screen and when we went
to go see Wish and like, you werethere and just like the audience
erupting and screaming and all that.
How have those happened?
Moments kind of inspired you to, to keepgoing, to live your best life, you know,
(15:23):
to really kind of raise the bar in, inyour own, um, process of doing life.
Kumi (15:29):
First of all, I was so grateful to share that with both of you at theater.
And I really loved having like my Aladdinfair and, you know, the extension of that
for others and kids and, you know, um,even mothers and fathers of, of our former
cast mates were, were, um, in attendance.
Um, and.
I think that, you know, I had areal identity crisis when Aladdin
(15:52):
ended because I was no longersinging and performing every day.
So for 13 years, people wouldask you, what do you do?
I'm a singer.
I'm a singer.
I'm a performer.
That's what I do.
And then all of a sudden itjust stops like cold turkey.
There's no phase out.
Nothing.
Kat (16:09):
I'm having chills thinking about it.
Kumi (16:12):
Yes.
You remember that?
Kat (16:13):
Yeah.
I just have chills ofthat, that identity crisis.
I it's so real.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kumi (16:18):
I went through that for a long time while, um, being an intern.
At city hall, I waslike, what do you do now?
I'm not just an unemployed person.
Like, you know, I'm volunteering.
I'm a community member and I'm stilla singer and I'm still a performer.
And I think having the mindsetof being able to be passionate
(16:42):
and having the capacity to allowyourself to be passionate about
more than one thing in life.
And the thing, those multiple thingsfor me are community and the arts.
Um, in addition to, of course, likemy family and things like that.
But I think it's.
Completely possible to exist in multipleworlds, I guess, professionally,
(17:04):
you know, when, um, the opportunityfor wish came along, um, that
was just another testament to.
God providing for my performer's soul.
Um, I never really closed that door.
Right.
Um, mentally or emotionally, um,after I got over the identity crisis,
I was like, well, I can be both.
(17:25):
And that's exactly the way that I live.
You know, I still do have a regularnine to five job and I do go to school
and, you know, I still audition.
Yeah.
I audition, um, often, very often.
Kat (17:42):
I love that.
Oh gosh, there's so many there to unpack.
Just the, even just the process of goingthrough the identity crisis and, and,
and all of that, and the realizationthat we are multi multifaceted beings.
And just because we connected with being asinger as our identity, doesn't mean that
that goes away when that job goes away.
(18:02):
And it's really incrediblethat you share that.
Now, leading up to let's, the, theproject would, would wish, right.
Leading up to that, um, Obviously, like,like, I feel that too, like, if I haven't
done a performing job in a while andI go to audition for something, right?
I have a lot of fears, right?
It's like, do I even know how to do this?
Do, do I, do I even belong here still?
(18:24):
You know?
So there's a lot of limiting beliefs.
Can you pinpoint maybe a specific limitingbelief that really maybe gripped you?
And how you overcame that inthe process of auditioning?
Getting into the movie wish
Kumi (18:40):
it's exactly that.
Like I don't sing every day, thisinstrument does not work the way it did.
You know, when we ended in 2016, but youknow, I speak at a lot of schools, like
grade schools, and I think the one thingthat I tell kids who are on that path to
be in this industry is that as performers,your only job is to do your best.
(19:06):
Your best.
You'll hear many, many no's, butthere's no room to take those no's
personally because It's a very limitedamount of people's like, dislike.
So I always see them as
like little gifts, right?
I, you know, it's so funny that justto go back a little bit, we always
(19:28):
think that we want what's best for us.
And we think that we know what'sbest for us, but I am a firm believer
that God will provide what is bestfor you when the time is right.
And I think that is very muchso my, um, frame of thought.
When I go to these types of audition,and especially for Wish, I was like,
(19:50):
Oh gosh, first of all, I was really,I was really intimidated because they
were like, Oh, they're all teenagers.
I was like, I was like, I don't thinkI sound like a teenager, but okay.
So, you know, the best thing you cando is, you know, I, I got coached.
You have to hone your craft constantly.
And I think that people in thisindustry, even like people who are
super successful in this industry,um, still training with people.
(20:14):
It's so important to remember thatthere is no like, cap for training
when you're a performer, it's, it'skind of like working out, you have to
keep working out those muscles in yourmemory and in your, in whether it be
vocal or your movement to keep themat your best, at your personal best.
So,
Kat (20:32):
yeah.
Kumi (20:33):
Oh, I love it.
It was so awesome.
Like I was so shocked.
I remember I was working forour former mayor at the time.
And my email went off on my phone.
It says audition Disney cartoon,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, Oh, that's cool.
And then I remember going backand my agent called me right away.
And I was like, what is going on?
Everybody's calling me right now.
(20:54):
It was just blowing up.
And she goes, Oh, there you are.
I called her back and she waslike, they want you to audition.
I was like, well, what is it?
She was like, well, we don't know.
And I was like.
So, you know, and I also, I also make it apoint like after auditions to make a plan,
like I, you know, auditioned virtually,but I also made a plan afterwards to
the person that helped me audition togo out and see a movie, like just to get
(21:16):
distracted and not, I don't want to allowany like downtime for my brain to start
spiraling because that's just who I am.
Kat (21:24):
Yeah.
And I love that, you know, that aboutyourself and you know how to kind of.
Navigate through all of that becauseI think as performers, as artists,
we there's so many things goingin the brain and, you know, and,
and the stuff that we, I mean, theimposter syndrome is, is huge, right?
Like that it's, it's just so real andthat's just us in the artist world.
(21:46):
But I think with, with everybody,I think we just, there's just this
epidemic of, we feel like we're neverenough, you know, because of everything
that we see on social media, italways feels like we're not enough.
Yeah.
Kumi (21:58):
Yeah.
There's this like unhealthyperfectionism that comes along with,
I mean, not just this industry,
Kat (22:06):
right?
Kumi (22:07):
It can't just be this industry.
Um, and I think it has to do withthe culture of work in this country.
Kat (22:14):
Yeah.
Awesome.
Lee (22:15):
So with the, um, more on the, the political realm that you're in right now,
um, do you feel a lot of similaritiesbetween that, uh, Cause you said you
were a 30 plus year old intern, kindof a new, new area, new ground now, you
know, with the work that you're doing,um, do you feel like a lot of those
(22:38):
same fears and kind of burdens you haveto kind of press through every day?
Do you feel confident now where you're at?
Kumi (22:45):
I do feel confident where I'm at, but there's always room to learn more.
In my day to day job, I'm theCitywide Accessibility Coordinator
for the City of Long Beach.
This, um, role requires me tomake sure that the city is in
compliant with specific titles ofthe Americans with Disabilities
Act, which is pretty much basic.
people with disabilities civil rights law.
(23:07):
And I don't have a law background.
So of course, it seems veryintimidating, but I feel like I
learned something every single day.
If you know, Sometimes even from hourto hour, and it's just great to be able
to build that like toolbox of thingsthat I need to help me do my job, um,
at the level that I need to, to betterserve the community, but I definitely do
(23:29):
feel a lot more comfortable navigating,um, you know, the local government.
Process and helping people navigatethe local government process on
the other end, a government phone.
You'll find very often that people arecalling you at their very last straw.
Like, they've talked to everybodyand gotten nowhere at all.
(23:49):
So I think.
You know, it's really helpful to have hadthat experience of, you know, knowing,
um, how to dispatch issues to differentdepartments in the city, um, into how
to really talk to, and I like people,I've always liked people, so how to talk
to people and kind of bring them down alittle bit and help them figure out the
(24:11):
issue, but also empower them to be able toaddress issues on their own in the future.
Kat (24:16):
Yeah,
Kumi (24:16):
I think that's where I feel really confident.
Kat (24:19):
I love that.
When it comes to creativity, what doyou think is, um, you know, your kind
of like your definition, your view oncreativity and how does that help you,
especially in your position right now?
Kumi (24:32):
So when a lot of people think about government, they
think about so boring, right?
So, um, and it can be.
If you deliver it in a boring manner,and it's so interesting because I'm
taking this communications class atschool right now, and I'm reading
this book called to facilitate studentsuccess and lessons from instructional
communication and educational psychology.
(24:54):
So what can I do to make thisinformation both for people and as you
know, When we were locked down in thatdungeon, we are very creative beings.
We made all kinds of videos.
We, we, you know, and I think,you know, it helps to have that
entertainment background and to beable to facilitate meetings that would
(25:15):
typically seem kind of boring and makethem more interesting for our audience.
A wide variety of people, and I think thatreally helps, uh, my job also, um, entails
a lot of event planning and executing andthat for me is where I feel like it can
really execute like, or you utilize mycreative side, you know, and making sure
(25:37):
that, you know, People feel welcome andprioritized when they come to, you know,
they take these courses or these classesor attend these meetings and are, are
connected to these resources and programs.
But, you know, it's been reallyhelpful in the smallest of ways too.
Like one time we were planning to havea state of the district event at night
outside and nobody thought that wewould need a spotlight , but for months
(26:01):
I said we need a, we need a spotlight.
And we were going the two daysbefore and they were like.
It's dark.
I was like, you think ? What do we need?
And everybody was like a spotlight.
I was like, alright, thank you,. They're just simple things, you know?
Kat (26:18):
Yeah.
They're not listening to theone who's had years performing.
Come on guys.
No,
Kumi (26:22):
nobody's gonna look at somebody in the dark.
So it's just funny.
And of course, you know, the One Spotlightwas one of our former cast members.
Oh.
So it's nice to be ableto, you know, bring that.
entertainment side to thiswork that doesn't seem too
interesting to people who aren't.
(26:43):
Typically involved like this.
Kat (26:45):
Yeah.
Was it Elijah?
It
Kumi (26:48):
was.
It was like, Elijah, I need a photobooth, I need a stage, I need a spotlight,
I need a DJ, and I need microphones.
Kat (26:58):
He's got everything.
If you want, you know,costumes, he's got everything.
So,
Kumi (27:01):
yeah, he asked, he's like, do we need any wigs?
I was like, no, Elijah, it's not thatkind of party, but hold that thought.
Let me just ask really
Kat (27:09):
quick.
That's for the next one.
Okay.
Oh, I love that.
That's awesome.
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Kind of going back to you saidyou talk a lot to children.
Um, you know, one of the reasonswhy we are putting the show back on.
We had this idea about our podcast, but.
You know, I think everybody in2020 started something and then
stopped and just kind of faded off.
(29:17):
Right.
And so that's kind of what happenedto our show, but then I'm doing
this sort of shifting in likethe way I teach my piano lessons.
And one of the reasons why we broughtthis show back on is because I really
want to explore with kids, right?
I think some people are bornwith an aptitude for leadership.
But it's not something that,you know, it's impossible at all
(29:39):
for for everybody else, right?
I think it can be learned andI think I do think it starts
with a growth mindset, right?
Like if you have a growth mindset and youknow, you're you can always learn anything
then you can learn how to be a leader Sowhen you talk to kids, you know, what are
some of the things that you feel like?
They really need help with the mostwhen it comes to growth mindset
(30:02):
or maybe a lack of leadershipskills or values that they have.
Um, what is that thing that youfeel like they need the most?
Kumi (30:10):
I think there are two things that are really needed when we talk about kids
and developing growth mindset and skills.
One, it's the, theircapacity to believe that.
They have what it takes and to theiraccess to things that they think or know
(30:33):
will help them become better leaders.
So when I talk to kids, we spend a lotof time first, we talk about our dreams
and our hopes and our wishes, right?
Because we're allresponsible for that wish.
Um, Yes.
Yes.
We're all responsible for all of that.
But then we talk about things intheir life that they see as potential
(30:54):
roadblocks to becoming whatever itis that they want to be, um, and
being the leader of their own life.
Right.
Because there's some part of, youknow, our day to day life where we
just have to lead for ourselves.
Everybody does.
Yeah.
And I think.
You know, sharing not only the good life,but the really hard things about life
(31:15):
and the potential hard things about life.
It's really important too, right?
Because I think there's, yes, peopleconnect on the level of, um, positivity,
but we also connect on the thingsthat brought us here and sometimes
that's not all, you know, Positive oreven things that we want to remember.
(31:36):
Um, so acknowledging those traumas, maybe,and those scars and packing them away
in a healthy manner and just rememberingthat, that those are just steps is.
I know it sounds really complicated,especially for children, but, you know, we
do a lot of, um, exploring, we talk a lotabout, um, what their home lives are like,
(31:58):
you know, how they perceive themself andhow they think people perceive themselves
and how they want people to perceive them.
Um, we talk a lot about school,um, you know, the hardships in
school I'm finding more and more.
And I think it has a lot to do with theuse of technology and just how much.
(32:21):
This generation hasbecome dependent on it.
There's like a huge gap in, um, beingsocially, I don't want to use the word
trained, but just socially being okay.
And social matters,social settings, right.
Versus text mailing ortalking through a screen.
Like a lot of people get a lot ofanxiety and just the thought of
(32:42):
talking to somebody face to faceor simply making a phone call.
So we, we address those things.
Um, and we talk about them.
Um, I love making lists.
Um, I share with them that lists aremy way of making sure that, um, I do
everything that I need to do in orderto have a successful day or event,
(33:04):
or do great on a test for school.
You can use lists for everything.
And then we also talk about journaling,you know, um, if kids don't feel That
they confidently can confide in somebody.
There's always a journal.
Yeah.
We talk about journaling.
All right.
We're wrong way to do it.
Just, you know, I call it minddumping, soul dumping, whatever,
(33:27):
whatever you feel needs to be.
Put out on a piece of paperfor you to visualize and see.
So we talk a lot about that when Italk about, when I talk to kids, I'm
mentoring an amazing student who's inthe fifth grade, who is neurodivergent.
And they're starting their own littlebusiness to get other students that.
(33:48):
Um, have neurodivergence together, um,in a setting where they can just talk
about their life, you know, the joys,the sadness, the highs and the lows.
And, and how leaning on your community isreally more helpful than people sometimes.
Kat (34:03):
Wow.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Lee (34:06):
Question with.
That role, was that something thatyou like volunteered to step into?
Is it something that camefrom your time in the theater?
Is it time that came, or is ita position that came from like
the work that you're doing?
In the political realm,how'd that come to be?
Kumi (34:24):
So I, um, founded Long Beach Disability Pride toward
the end of the pandemic, right?
We were all finding ourselvesisolated and people, many people,
disabilities already live isolation.
And that was just compounded by everythingthat was going on with the whole pandemic.
So sometimes at these events, um,I'll have people come up to me and
(34:44):
say, you know, I'm doing this project.
I would really love if you couldtake a look and you know, I'm very
realistic My schedule and my time.
And I don't want to halfgive myself to somebody as a
mentor or anything like that.
So some of these meetings turn intoa mentor mentee type of relationship.
(35:05):
And some of them, youknow, it's just a one off.
Do you have any advice for me?
That's it.
Um, there is someone that I metthrough Long Beach Disability Pride.
Um, and right now I have three mentees.
Um, uh, one is in collegeand they're neurodivergent as
well, and they're an author.
And then the other one is actuallya parent who's significantly older
(35:25):
than me of a child with a disability,um, who really wants to get into, you
know, voiceovers and things like that.
And, um, so it just, it varies.
Um, I tend to go with my heart.
And typically my heart is pretty much.
Right.
You know, um, I don'tjust mentor everybody.
Like I, if, if I feel that the person isreally, really like dedicated to doing the
(35:50):
work and, and, you know, being present,making the meetings and things like that,
then, you know, we, it's, it's give andtake, but you know, somebody did it to
me when I was younger and many mentors,whether they were teachers or people
at church or people in the community.
So, and that's what.
Communities for,
Kat (36:07):
you
Kumi (36:07):
know, and we're there to lean on each other and be there for each other
Kat (36:12):
and talking about mentorship and, you know, coaching kids, right?
Being there for them and beingthat kind of guide for them.
Why is it important to,for kids to have that?
Because, you know, versus likelooking up to their parents and
letting the parents to be the onlyguide, you know, why is it important
for a child to obviously have that?
(36:34):
Amazing parents, butalso have a great mentor.
Kumi (36:37):
So when I was younger, my dad would come see my, my little concerts, right?
And he would say, you're the best.
And my response was, you have tosay that because you're my dad.
You know, I think that, um, it's importantfor kids to have, you know, connection.
With people outside of just theirfamily because human connection itself
(37:00):
is important and vital for life.
Right.
But also because to provide differentperspectives, you know, and I'm not saying
that all perspectives matter, but, um,You know, I, I also think it puts the
onus on the child to become a part ofa community to learn more and then turn
(37:21):
it, I always tell people, if somebodyis pulling you up the ladder and there's
comes a, there will come a point whereyou feel like you can let go with one hand
and reach around and gritty behind you.
And that's always what the.
The mentor mentee relationshipshould look like, right.
Um, so, you know, I'm gratefulfor what my parents did 100%.
(37:43):
Um, but I'm also really equally grateful.
They pushed me to go outside of thehome, to do community theater, to join
these choirs, to attend, you know, andperform in these concerts with friends,
et cetera, et cetera, and at church.
Um, it's just a part of, of life.
Two churches,
Kat (37:59):
Catholic and Baptist.
One, it was not enough.
Kumi (38:04):
Yes.
Two churches.
Um, and my c I've definitely found likea church in my community, you know?
Yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
So I want kids to be able tofeel like they can rely on their
community like that as well.
Kat (38:18):
Yeah.
That's
Kumi (38:18):
great.
Kat (38:18):
Wonderful.
Do you have any more parting questionsfor Kumi as we're wrapping it up?
Lee (38:23):
I was going to, oh, yeah.
Okay.
I wasn't sure.
Kat (38:25):
Go for it.
Lee (38:26):
Feeling the vibe between the two
Kat (38:28):
Go for it when not to.
Lee (38:30):
Um, no, I just, I, it's more of like a comment and I don't know
if there's like feedback that youhave on the end, but it's just.
It's awesome to hear, like theexperiences that you've had, they've
all accumulated into where you are now.
And I'm sure it's going to continueon, um, going through and the gifts
that God has given you, um, in voiceand talent and patience and, um,
(38:51):
leadership has really just accelerated,you know, as, as you go on with life.
And now what I'm seeing is.
The, the gifts that you were given, you'resharing that downstream, so to speak,
but those kids now, like the one that youmentioned is starting your own business
or starting their own business, like thatacceleration, you know, and the impact
(39:13):
that I think you're having without, maybe,you know, it, maybe not, but, um, the
impact that you have by giving back, youknow, um, it's such like, uh, you know,
we can be that little pebble in a pondor we can be like a big boulder and throw
it down and huge waves and everything.
Um, it's just.
Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
(39:33):
It's, it's inspiring just hearing theway that you look at life, the way that
you're sharing your life with othersand, and really pulling people up.
As you said, it sounds like almost likeyou're grabbing them and like really
nice hard whip to send them forward.
But, um, Yeah, I justwanted to comment on that.
That's all.
Kat (39:53):
Yeah, for me too, Kumi.
I mean, you know, it's, it's not, wedon't really talk a lot, you know,
so it's like, I mean, yeah, we worktogether, but it's not like we talk a lot.
So it's, I was just telling Liam, like,I really, I'm excited about this idea
of like, Putting up the podcast again,because it gives us an opportunity to
kind of just talk to people and like,Hey, learn a little bit more about them.
And, you know, so some of the thingsthat you shared, you know, today, I
(40:16):
mean, I didn't really know about you,you know, and so it's just incredible
to, to learn that and to just hear ofall your experiences, a lot of it, right.
And, um, and where you are now,it's, it's really incredible.
So thank you for being here.
Do you have any sort of, um,if you were to tell, you know,
(40:37):
especially parents, right?
What is like the one thing that theycan do for their kids to really help
their kids grow up into this growthmindset and having a growth mindset and
and be leaders for life, not just inthe future, In the present in there.
You know, how is thisrelatable to a third grader?
(40:58):
You know, like, how can a parent help thatchild become the leader that they need to
be in the present, not just in the future?
Kumi (41:05):
Yeah, I think it's really, I think it really boils down to providing your
child with the tools to recognize theirleadership skills and opportunities
to use their leadership skills.
So that can be anything from, youknow, You know, making sure you carve
enough time out to finish your homeworkbefore you go outside and play, or if
(41:27):
you want to join that extracurricularsport, you know, making sure your
grades are at a certain level.
And, you know, even like havingfriends over, like, is your room clean?
Is the bathroom clean?
What do we typically offer peoplewhen they come over to our house?
Something to drink, maybe somesnacks or something like that.
Like giving them.
Real situations and treating them likethey're in charge of their own life,
(41:49):
because at some point or another, theywill be, you know, and I think it really
shows when people allow their kids tofind that side of themselves, that leader
and that little adult who, you know, isgood at planning and considers, you know,
what it takes to even play or work withother people is really, it really shows.
(42:11):
I
Kat (42:12):
love that.
And what is your definitionof a wildly wealthy life?
Kumi (42:17):
I think my definition of a wildly wealthy life is being
immersed in having access to endlessamounts of what makes you happy.
It could be love.
It could be laughter.
It could be friendship.
It could be traveling.
It could be nature.
Wealth can come in many different forms.
(42:40):
We just have to realizethat for ourselves.
Kat (42:44):
Yeah.
Kumi (42:44):
What makes us happy.
Kat (42:46):
I love it.
Thank you, Kumi.
Thank you both so much.
Kumi (42:50):
This is so great.
I love spending time with both of you.
Kat (42:53):
It's really
Kumi (42:54):
fun.
Kat (42:55):
Kumi, I forgot to ask one more question.
Um, where can people find outmore about you, and if there's
anyone that wants to kind of getinvolved with what you're doing?
What you're doing, um, you know, howdo they, uh, keep in touch with you?
Kumi (43:08):
Sure.
Um, uh, you can, um, visit my Instagramat Kumi rocks, um, and send me a
message or you can email me at J NKumiyama, K U M I Y A M A at gmail.
com.
Awesome.
Lee (43:25):
Is it rocks?
R O C K S.
Yes, R O C K S.
Kat (43:30):
Because she rocks, you know?
You have to believe it,or else you're doing it.
Kumi (43:37):
Exactly.
100%.
Kat (43:39):
You have to say it all the time.
I rock.
I freaking rock, okay?
Kumi (43:43):
You have to wake up, look in that mirror, and be
like, Good morning, beautiful.
That's how you start your day.
Then that's how you start your day.
Kat (43:49):
Exactly.
Awesome.
Well, can we thank you againfor just being with us?
I really appreciate your time.
Kumi (43:57):
Thank you all so much.
Have a great one.
Kat (44:00):
All right, friends.
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the capacity to allow yourself to bepassionate about more than one thing
in life and the thing, those multiplethings for me, our community and the
arts, um, in addition to, of course,like my family and things like that.
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professionally, you know, when theopportunity for Wish came along, um,
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I never really closed that door, right?
Um, mentally or emotionally.
Um, after I got over the identitycrisis, I was like, well, I can be both.
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And.
That's exactly the way that I live.
Kat (00:58):
Today's guest is Jennifer Kumiyama, really known as Kumi.
She's a friend of mine and I workedwith her together on the show Aladdin
at Disney California Adventure.
She was born with anthrogryposisand uses a wheelchair daily.
Um, she earned a spot on WarnerBrothers reality TV show, Pop Stars,
and earned national accolades frommany publications, including Variety
(01:20):
Magazine and TV Guide, referring toher as the girl in the wheelchair,
whose voice blew everyone away.
Everyone out of the water and shereally does have an amazing voice.
If you get to hear her, listen to herin the movie, wish she is the voice of
Dahlia and she also won Miss wheelchair,California and Miss wheelchair,
America in 2011 as first runner up and.
(01:44):
During her reign, she really spread themessage of hope through her platform,
empowering children with disabilitiesto make their own dreams come true.
And we are just so excitedto share Kumi with you.
She is currently the City of Long BeachCitywide Accessibility Coordinator.
And I promise you, I know the catis in front of our camera right
now, and it's jiggling the camera.
(02:06):
But I promise you watch thison YouTube, you'll see the cat.
Um, you are not going towant to miss this episode.
She is incredible.
Hey, my name is Kat.
Lee (02:16):
And I'm Lee.
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And welcome to the
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Wildly Wealthy Life podcast.
In this show, we explore the journeyof what it means to live a truly
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Each episode focuses on how a foundation of brilliant minds and
brave hearts Nurtured through thearts leads to lifelong success.
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Get inspired with actionable tips to foster a growth mindset,
leadership values, and creativityin children and adults, turning
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Kat (02:45):
We hope you embrace the challenge to shift your perspective as we equip
you and the next generation for a
Lee (02:52):
Wildly Wealthy Life.
Kat (03:01):
Well, in a moment, we're going to bring Kumi in, but before we
bring her in, babe, what was yourfavorite part about that interview?
Lee (03:08):
I liked Kumi's heart for people and her, her willingness to like, really
serve her community, but also justpeople at large, uh, her connection.
To the youth also was really touching.
I think seeing her come alive when she'sworking with those kids and the messaging
(03:31):
that she's able to share with them.
There's just so much in therethat is, is really special.
Kat (03:36):
Yeah, I really love, you know, I know I've known Kumi through our work
together on Aladdin, um, but I, you know,You know, I don't, I know her from there,
but it's not like we talk every day.
So I didn't even know, um, the stuffthat she does with the youth and,
um, especially, you know, youth withdisabilities and how she's really giving
them a way to know themselves a way toalso exercise their leadership values
(04:01):
and skills, a way to help them, uh, knowwho they are as people and their worth.
And so I just reallylove what Kumi is doing.
So if you're a parent, uh, or aneducator, and you just want some
tips on how to mentor the youth,this is an episode that's for you.
(04:27):
Well, Kumi, I want to get started with,um, you have done some pretty incredible
things and it's really awesome to justwatch you and just be such an inspiration
to so many people around you, you know,knowing you from Aladdin, like everybody
just loves you cause you are truly likean inspiration to everybody growing up.
(04:47):
What are some of the leadershipvalues that you feel like you
learned as a child that you carry on?
To now as an adult that has allowedyou to accomplish so many things.
Kumi (05:00):
I'm the oldest of six kids and my father was in the military and the
mindset in my household was you alleither swim together or you sink together.
And I think that really made us asthreatening and, and, and traumatic
as that sound, I think that reallymade us six kids learn how to.
(05:22):
Live as a unit and a team.
Um, and I think we really diddevelop those, uh, those team skills.
You know, we were there for each other.
Chores had to be done by a certain time.
So if one person was finishedbefore they'd help the other
person and vice versa, we were allresponsible for making sure that
our homework was done before dinner.
(05:43):
Um, so it was a lot of us sittingaround the table and helping
each other complete homework.
And of course our parents were thereto guide us and, and, and what have
you, but Um, you know, because therewas six of us, there was somebody
at the table who knew what somebodymight need help with in homework,
um, aside from me being the oldest.
So, um, you know, it was verymuch, um, that mentality in the
(06:04):
household that we are a team andthat we need each other to thrive.
And when somebody, um, needshelp, you're always there for
that person and vice versa.
Um, so I think that really, really,um, helped develop my mentality of kind
of, um, Really focusing on community.
I'm very, very close with mycommunity outside of my family.
(06:26):
Um, the people that I live next to andwith each other in this great city, like
it's the same thing when we were kids.
Um, you know, what does somebody need?
How can we help?
How can we connect them to theresources that they need to thrive?
Kat (06:39):
Now that you're sharing this, I could totally seem like, Oh
yeah, that's exactly how you werewhen we were working together.
That's really awesome.
Lee (06:45):
Do you see yourself like as the big sister when you step
into the room for everybody or?
Kumi (06:50):
So funny that you asked that because, um, when I started working after
Latin closed in the local councilman'soffice, I was a 36 year old intern.
Like that is not somethingthat you really hear of.
That's not normal.
Kat (07:04):
Yeah.
Kumi (07:04):
It's not typical.
I don't want to say normal, but, um,so I found myself really learning
people and having to be okay with,I don't have an issue with how
old you are, how old you're not.
Um, but if, you know, if you can helpme learn, better understand something,
um, so I can therefore help somebodyelse and do my job better, then, then
that's the kind of relationship ThatI'm open to work wise, but sometimes
(07:26):
I, you know, where I do definitelyfeel like sister, especially when I see
chaos and people stressed out, I'm like,everybody, stop, what are we doing?
What needs to be done now?
What can we not help that?
We just, we just have to let it go.
Cause there's not, sometimes there'snothing you can do about things.
So my mentality is always tohelp people differentiate.
(07:47):
What is worth stressing out aboutand what you have to kind of let go.
We can't have control over everything.
And, you know, we live in suchan urgency culture and it's so
unhealthy, you know, what needs tobe done right now in this moment.
Not everything is a priority.
We have to learn how toset realistic priorities.
Kat (08:06):
Yeah.
And that's already, again, anotherleadership skill that you have
actually being able to pinpoint,um, what is actually important right
now that's going to move the needle.
And then the other thing thatI really love is, uh, humility.
I think humility is such a, uh, leadershiptrait that I think gets really overlooked
and, uh, you know, going back to what yousaid about being an intern who's older,
(08:29):
then that's not usually the case, right?
But you stepped in being fully okay withlearning from someone younger than you.
And that really goes backto growth mindset, you know?
And so as a child, just looking back,how did you develop that growth mindset?
Especially, you know, withyour situation, right?
Like, how did you grow up?
thinking, okay, I am enough.
(08:51):
I can do things.
I am capable, like all of these things.
How did you develop that?
Or did you have a mentoraside from your parents?
Like, did you have like amentor that really helped you
and guide you through that?
Kumi (09:03):
Yeah, I think it was really fortunate to grow up in an environment
outside of like my immediate,immediate where like my extended
family was like, that's just Kumi.
That's how she, she's in a wheelchair.
She just thinks differentlyor sometimes she needs help.
Um, I think, I really found myself inkind of exercising growth mindset when
(09:23):
I hit about my thirties, right after Itook over the Miss Wheelchair California
Foundation, um, and was working at Disneyfull time, I was juggling multiple tasks,
including my day to day job, which, youknow, was the primary source of income
for, um, Me to do things outside of thatjob, like, like Miss Orchard, California.
So I think just relocate, well,I have to do the show now.
(09:45):
It started really simple.
I have to do the show.
Now I have to do these four shows.
What can I do during break?
I'm during breaks.
I prioritize things that I need todo, phone calls that I need to make.
And even today, like, you know, as aformer legislative staffer, um, I had
a great experience and I'm not knockingthat experience at all, but I think, cool.
Working in the political realm canreally lead to like an unhealthy
(10:09):
lifestyle of, you know, again, likeliving in that urgency culture or,
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Lee (12:33):
I have a question because being in, in the politics side
of things and then, um, the Ms.
Wheelchair also with Aladdin, um, You'vebeen just exposed to different levels
of theater, of play, of creativity,just solving different problems in
different creative ways in that.
When did that creative bugkind of come to life for you?
(12:54):
Like, where did that start in your life?
Kumi (12:57):
I grew up in a very musical family.
instrumental vocal and creative too.
Um, like my mom was a very greatartist that can paint, you know,
drawing and things like that.
Um, but I think it really hit me likein middle school, uh, when we started
doing like curriculars, um, like thechoir joining the band and things like
(13:21):
that, and, um, I grew up in a Catholicchurch choir, um, and singing there.
And that was really fun for me.
Um, I learned a lot there.
Um, but then in the summer when I'd visitmy mom's father, my grandfather, um, he
was Southern Baptist and we would go toa Baptist church and then I would sing
(13:41):
with the choir at the Baptist church.
Now that's two.
Two completely different types of music.
I think realizing that there ismore types of music out there really
sparked this and I think, you know,my parents were like, okay, uh, uh,
every, every one of the kids had.
Something to do after school,um, it, most of the time it was
(14:04):
sports and with me, they werelike, well, what do you want to do?
And you have to do something.
You can't just do nothing.
I think essentially they're like,you have to get out of my house
after school because we need time.
All these kids need to go dotheir extracurriculars, but
I think it was really at thattime where I got bit by the bug.
You know, making friends and choirand theater and going to, um,
(14:24):
other shows, you know, like, uh,community theater or high school.
And then, you know, in highschool, going to like regional
theater and so on and so forth.
I think that's when I really realizedthat, um, singing and performing
was something that I could not livewithout and be happy and be satisfied.
Yeah.
Lee (14:42):
Cause you have such a, There's like a presence about you that I always
loved when I got to go to watch you guysdo the Aladdin show and that, and just
having you come out and just like yourfacial expression, just the joy of that,
but it's also like now thinking back,it's, you know, you really paved a way
for other, other people to have that.
And then now too, with.
(15:03):
Uh, Delia in, in Wish, there's justthat extra layer of like your, your
voice coming through to this likecharacter on screen and when we went
to go see Wish and like, you werethere and just like the audience
erupting and screaming and all that.
How have those happened?
Moments kind of inspired you to, to keepgoing, to live your best life, you know,
(15:23):
to really kind of raise the bar in, inyour own, um, process of doing life.
Kumi (15:29):
First of all, I was so grateful to share that with both of you at theater.
And I really loved having like my Aladdinfair and, you know, the extension of that
for others and kids and, you know, um,even mothers and fathers of, of our former
cast mates were, were, um, in attendance.
Um, and.
I think that, you know, I had areal identity crisis when Aladdin
(15:52):
ended because I was no longersinging and performing every day.
So for 13 years, people wouldask you, what do you do?
I'm a singer.
I'm a singer.
I'm a performer.
That's what I do.
And then all of a sudden itjust stops like cold turkey.
There's no phase out.
Nothing.
Kat (16:09):
I'm having chills thinking about it.
Kumi (16:12):
Yes.
You remember that?
Kat (16:13):
Yeah.
I just have chills ofthat, that identity crisis.
I it's so real.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kumi (16:18):
I went through that for a long time while, um, being an intern.
At city hall, I waslike, what do you do now?
I'm not just an unemployed person.
Like, you know, I'm volunteering.
I'm a community member and I'm stilla singer and I'm still a performer.
And I think having the mindsetof being able to be passionate
(16:42):
and having the capacity to allowyourself to be passionate about
more than one thing in life.
And the thing, those multiple thingsfor me are community and the arts.
Um, in addition to, of course, likemy family and things like that.
But I think it's.
Completely possible to exist in multipleworlds, I guess, professionally,
(17:04):
you know, when, um, the opportunityfor wish came along, um, that
was just another testament to.
God providing for my performer's soul.
Um, I never really closed that door.
Right.
Um, mentally or emotionally, um,after I got over the identity crisis,
I was like, well, I can be both.
(17:25):
And that's exactly the way that I live.
You know, I still do have a regularnine to five job and I do go to school
and, you know, I still audition.
Yeah.
I audition, um, often, very often.
Kat (17:42):
I love that.
Oh gosh, there's so many there to unpack.
Just the, even just the process of goingthrough the identity crisis and, and,
and all of that, and the realizationthat we are multi multifaceted beings.
And just because we connected with being asinger as our identity, doesn't mean that
that goes away when that job goes away.
(18:02):
And it's really incrediblethat you share that.
Now, leading up to let's, the, theproject would, would wish, right.
Leading up to that, um, Obviously, like,like, I feel that too, like, if I haven't
done a performing job in a while andI go to audition for something, right?
I have a lot of fears, right?
It's like, do I even know how to do this?
Do, do I, do I even belong here still?
(18:24):
You know?
So there's a lot of limiting beliefs.
Can you pinpoint maybe a specific limitingbelief that really maybe gripped you?
And how you overcame that inthe process of auditioning?
Getting into the movie wish
Kumi (18:40):
it's exactly that.
Like I don't sing every day, thisinstrument does not work the way it did.
You know, when we ended in 2016, but youknow, I speak at a lot of schools, like
grade schools, and I think the one thingthat I tell kids who are on that path to
be in this industry is that as performers,your only job is to do your best.
(19:06):
Your best.
You'll hear many, many no's, butthere's no room to take those no's
personally because It's a very limitedamount of people's like, dislike.
So I always see them as
like little gifts, right?
I, you know, it's so funny that justto go back a little bit, we always
(19:28):
think that we want what's best for us.
And we think that we know what'sbest for us, but I am a firm believer
that God will provide what is bestfor you when the time is right.
And I think that is very muchso my, um, frame of thought.
When I go to these types of audition,and especially for Wish, I was like,
(19:50):
Oh gosh, first of all, I was really,I was really intimidated because they
were like, Oh, they're all teenagers.
I was like, I was like, I don't thinkI sound like a teenager, but okay.
So, you know, the best thing you cando is, you know, I, I got coached.
You have to hone your craft constantly.
And I think that people in thisindustry, even like people who are
super successful in this industry,um, still training with people.
(20:14):
It's so important to remember thatthere is no like, cap for training
when you're a performer, it's, it'skind of like working out, you have to
keep working out those muscles in yourmemory and in your, in whether it be
vocal or your movement to keep themat your best, at your personal best.
So,
Kat (20:32):
yeah.
Kumi (20:33):
Oh, I love it.
It was so awesome.
Like I was so shocked.
I remember I was working forour former mayor at the time.
And my email went off on my phone.
It says audition Disney cartoon,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, Oh, that's cool.
And then I remember going backand my agent called me right away.
And I was like, what is going on?
Everybody's calling me right now.
(20:54):
It was just blowing up.
And she goes, Oh, there you are.
I called her back and she waslike, they want you to audition.
I was like, well, what is it?
She was like, well, we don't know.
And I was like.
So, you know, and I also, I also make it apoint like after auditions to make a plan,
like I, you know, auditioned virtually,but I also made a plan afterwards to
the person that helped me audition togo out and see a movie, like just to get
(21:16):
distracted and not, I don't want to allowany like downtime for my brain to start
spiraling because that's just who I am.
Kat (21:24):
Yeah.
And I love that, you know, that aboutyourself and you know how to kind of.
Navigate through all of that becauseI think as performers, as artists,
we there's so many things goingin the brain and, you know, and,
and the stuff that we, I mean, theimposter syndrome is, is huge, right?
Like that it's, it's just so real andthat's just us in the artist world.
(21:46):
But I think with, with everybody,I think we just, there's just this
epidemic of, we feel like we're neverenough, you know, because of everything
that we see on social media, italways feels like we're not enough.
Yeah.
Kumi (21:58):
Yeah.
There's this like unhealthyperfectionism that comes along with,
I mean, not just this industry,
Kat (22:06):
right?
Kumi (22:07):
It can't just be this industry.
Um, and I think it has to do withthe culture of work in this country.
Kat (22:14):
Yeah.
Awesome.
Lee (22:15):
So with the, um, more on the, the political realm that you're in right now,
um, do you feel a lot of similaritiesbetween that, uh, Cause you said you
were a 30 plus year old intern, kindof a new, new area, new ground now, you
know, with the work that you're doing,um, do you feel like a lot of those
(22:38):
same fears and kind of burdens you haveto kind of press through every day?
Do you feel confident now where you're at?
Kumi (22:45):
I do feel confident where I'm at, but there's always room to learn more.
In my day to day job, I'm theCitywide Accessibility Coordinator
for the City of Long Beach.
This, um, role requires me tomake sure that the city is in
compliant with specific titles ofthe Americans with Disabilities
Act, which is pretty much basic.
people with disabilities civil rights law.
(23:07):
And I don't have a law background.
So of course, it seems veryintimidating, but I feel like I
learned something every single day.
If you know, Sometimes even from hourto hour, and it's just great to be able
to build that like toolbox of thingsthat I need to help me do my job, um,
at the level that I need to, to betterserve the community, but I definitely do
(23:29):
feel a lot more comfortable navigating,um, you know, the local government.
Process and helping people navigatethe local government process on
the other end, a government phone.
You'll find very often that people arecalling you at their very last straw.
Like, they've talked to everybodyand gotten nowhere at all.
(23:49):
So I think.
You know, it's really helpful to have hadthat experience of, you know, knowing,
um, how to dispatch issues to differentdepartments in the city, um, into how
to really talk to, and I like people,I've always liked people, so how to talk
to people and kind of bring them down alittle bit and help them figure out the
(24:11):
issue, but also empower them to be able toaddress issues on their own in the future.
Kat (24:16):
Yeah,
Kumi (24:16):
I think that's where I feel really confident.
Kat (24:19):
I love that.
When it comes to creativity, what doyou think is, um, you know, your kind
of like your definition, your view oncreativity and how does that help you,
especially in your position right now?
Kumi (24:32):
So when a lot of people think about government, they
think about so boring, right?
So, um, and it can be.
If you deliver it in a boring manner,and it's so interesting because I'm
taking this communications class atschool right now, and I'm reading
this book called to facilitate studentsuccess and lessons from instructional
communication and educational psychology.
(24:54):
So what can I do to make thisinformation both for people and as you
know, When we were locked down in thatdungeon, we are very creative beings.
We made all kinds of videos.
We, we, you know, and I think,you know, it helps to have that
entertainment background and to beable to facilitate meetings that would
(25:15):
typically seem kind of boring and makethem more interesting for our audience.
A wide variety of people, and I think thatreally helps, uh, my job also, um, entails
a lot of event planning and executing andthat for me is where I feel like it can
really execute like, or you utilize mycreative side, you know, and making sure
(25:37):
that, you know, People feel welcome andprioritized when they come to, you know,
they take these courses or these classesor attend these meetings and are, are
connected to these resources and programs.
But, you know, it's been reallyhelpful in the smallest of ways too.
Like one time we were planning to havea state of the district event at night
outside and nobody thought that wewould need a spotlight , but for months
(26:01):
I said we need a, we need a spotlight.
And we were going the two daysbefore and they were like.
It's dark.
I was like, you think ? What do we need?
And everybody was like a spotlight.
I was like, alright, thank you,. They're just simple things, you know?
Kat (26:18):
Yeah.
They're not listening to theone who's had years performing.
Come on guys.
No,
Kumi (26:22):
nobody's gonna look at somebody in the dark.
So it's just funny.
And of course, you know, the One Spotlightwas one of our former cast members.
Oh.
So it's nice to be ableto, you know, bring that.
entertainment side to thiswork that doesn't seem too
interesting to people who aren't.
(26:43):
Typically involved like this.
Kat (26:45):
Yeah.
Was it Elijah?
It
Kumi (26:48):
was.
It was like, Elijah, I need a photobooth, I need a stage, I need a spotlight,
I need a DJ, and I need microphones.
Kat (26:58):
He's got everything.
If you want, you know,costumes, he's got everything.
So,
Kumi (27:01):
yeah, he asked, he's like, do we need any wigs?
I was like, no, Elijah, it's not thatkind of party, but hold that thought.
Let me just ask really
Kat (27:09):
quick.
That's for the next one.
Okay.
Oh, I love that.
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Kind of going back to you saidyou talk a lot to children.
Um, you know, one of the reasonswhy we are putting the show back on.
We had this idea about our podcast, but.
You know, I think everybody in2020 started something and then
stopped and just kind of faded off.
(29:17):
Right.
And so that's kind of what happenedto our show, but then I'm doing
this sort of shifting in likethe way I teach my piano lessons.
And one of the reasons why we broughtthis show back on is because I really
want to explore with kids, right?
I think some people are bornwith an aptitude for leadership.
But it's not something that,you know, it's impossible at all
(29:39):
for for everybody else, right?
I think it can be learned andI think I do think it starts
with a growth mindset, right?
Like if you have a growth mindset and youknow, you're you can always learn anything
then you can learn how to be a leader Sowhen you talk to kids, you know, what are
some of the things that you feel like?
They really need help with the mostwhen it comes to growth mindset
(30:02):
or maybe a lack of leadershipskills or values that they have.
Um, what is that thing that youfeel like they need the most?
Kumi (30:10):
I think there are two things that are really needed when we talk about kids
and developing growth mindset and skills.
One, it's the, theircapacity to believe that.
They have what it takes and to theiraccess to things that they think or know
(30:33):
will help them become better leaders.
So when I talk to kids, we spend a lotof time first, we talk about our dreams
and our hopes and our wishes, right?
Because we're allresponsible for that wish.
Um, Yes.
Yes.
We're all responsible for all of that.
But then we talk about things intheir life that they see as potential
(30:54):
roadblocks to becoming whatever itis that they want to be, um, and
being the leader of their own life.
Right.
Because there's some part of, youknow, our day to day life where we
just have to lead for ourselves.
Everybody does.
Yeah.
And I think.
You know, sharing not only the good life,but the really hard things about life
(31:15):
and the potential hard things about life.
It's really important too, right?
Because I think there's, yes, peopleconnect on the level of, um, positivity,
but we also connect on the thingsthat brought us here and sometimes
that's not all, you know, Positive oreven things that we want to remember.
(31:36):
Um, so acknowledging those traumas, maybe,and those scars and packing them away
in a healthy manner and just rememberingthat, that those are just steps is.
I know it sounds really complicated,especially for children, but, you know, we
do a lot of, um, exploring, we talk a lotabout, um, what their home lives are like,
(31:58):
you know, how they perceive themself andhow they think people perceive themselves
and how they want people to perceive them.
Um, we talk a lot about school,um, you know, the hardships in
school I'm finding more and more.
And I think it has a lot to do with theuse of technology and just how much.
(32:21):
This generation hasbecome dependent on it.
There's like a huge gap in, um, beingsocially, I don't want to use the word
trained, but just socially being okay.
And social matters,social settings, right.
Versus text mailing ortalking through a screen.
Like a lot of people get a lot ofanxiety and just the thought of
(32:42):
talking to somebody face to faceor simply making a phone call.
So we, we address those things.
Um, and we talk about them.
Um, I love making lists.
Um, I share with them that lists aremy way of making sure that, um, I do
everything that I need to do in orderto have a successful day or event,
(33:04):
or do great on a test for school.
You can use lists for everything.
And then we also talk about journaling,you know, um, if kids don't feel That
they confidently can confide in somebody.
There's always a journal.
Yeah.
We talk about journaling.
All right.
We're wrong way to do it.
Just, you know, I call it minddumping, soul dumping, whatever,
(33:27):
whatever you feel needs to be.
Put out on a piece of paperfor you to visualize and see.
So we talk a lot about that when Italk about, when I talk to kids, I'm
mentoring an amazing student who's inthe fifth grade, who is neurodivergent.
And they're starting their own littlebusiness to get other students that.
(33:48):
Um, have neurodivergence together, um,in a setting where they can just talk
about their life, you know, the joys,the sadness, the highs and the lows.
And, and how leaning on your community isreally more helpful than people sometimes.
Kat (34:03):
Wow.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Lee (34:06):
Question with.
That role, was that something thatyou like volunteered to step into?
Is it something that camefrom your time in the theater?
Is it time that came, or is ita position that came from like
the work that you're doing?
In the political realm,how'd that come to be?
Kumi (34:24):
So I, um, founded Long Beach Disability Pride toward
the end of the pandemic, right?
We were all finding ourselvesisolated and people, many people,
disabilities already live isolation.
And that was just compounded by everythingthat was going on with the whole pandemic.
So sometimes at these events, um,I'll have people come up to me and
(34:44):
say, you know, I'm doing this project.
I would really love if you couldtake a look and you know, I'm very
realistic My schedule and my time.
And I don't want to halfgive myself to somebody as a
mentor or anything like that.
So some of these meetings turn intoa mentor mentee type of relationship.
(35:05):
And some of them, youknow, it's just a one off.
Do you have any advice for me?
That's it.
Um, there is someone that I metthrough Long Beach Disability Pride.
Um, and right now I have three mentees.
Um, uh, one is in collegeand they're neurodivergent as
well, and they're an author.
And then the other one is actuallya parent who's significantly older
(35:25):
than me of a child with a disability,um, who really wants to get into, you
know, voiceovers and things like that.
And, um, so it just, it varies.
Um, I tend to go with my heart.
And typically my heart is pretty much.
Right.
You know, um, I don'tjust mentor everybody.
Like I, if, if I feel that the person isreally, really like dedicated to doing the
(35:50):
work and, and, you know, being present,making the meetings and things like that,
then, you know, we, it's, it's give andtake, but you know, somebody did it to
me when I was younger and many mentors,whether they were teachers or people
at church or people in the community.
So, and that's what.
Communities for,
Kat (36:07):
you
Kumi (36:07):
know, and we're there to lean on each other and be there for each other
Kat (36:12):
and talking about mentorship and, you know, coaching kids, right?
Being there for them and beingthat kind of guide for them.
Why is it important to,for kids to have that?
Because, you know, versus likelooking up to their parents and
letting the parents to be the onlyguide, you know, why is it important
for a child to obviously have that?
(36:34):
Amazing parents, butalso have a great mentor.
Kumi (36:37):
So when I was younger, my dad would come see my, my little concerts, right?
And he would say, you're the best.
And my response was, you have tosay that because you're my dad.
You know, I think that, um, it's importantfor kids to have, you know, connection.
With people outside of just theirfamily because human connection itself
(37:00):
is important and vital for life.
Right.
But also because to provide differentperspectives, you know, and I'm not saying
that all perspectives matter, but, um,You know, I, I also think it puts the
onus on the child to become a part ofa community to learn more and then turn
(37:21):
it, I always tell people, if somebodyis pulling you up the ladder and there's
comes a, there will come a point whereyou feel like you can let go with one hand
and reach around and gritty behind you.
And that's always what the.
The mentor mentee relationshipshould look like, right.
Um, so, you know, I'm gratefulfor what my parents did 100%.
(37:43):
Um, but I'm also really equally grateful.
They pushed me to go outside of thehome, to do community theater, to join
these choirs, to attend, you know, andperform in these concerts with friends,
et cetera, et cetera, and at church.
Um, it's just a part of, of life.
Two churches,
Kat (37:59):
Catholic and Baptist.
One, it was not enough.
Kumi (38:04):
Yes.
Two churches.
Um, and my c I've definitely found likea church in my community, you know?
Yeah.
Mm-Hmm.
So I want kids to be able tofeel like they can rely on their
community like that as well.
Kat (38:18):
Yeah.
That's
Kumi (38:18):
great.
Kat (38:18):
Wonderful.
Do you have any more parting questionsfor Kumi as we're wrapping it up?
Lee (38:23):
I was going to, oh, yeah.
Okay.
I wasn't sure.
Kat (38:25):
Go for it.
Lee (38:26):
Feeling the vibe between the two
Kat (38:28):
Go for it when not to.
Lee (38:30):
Um, no, I just, I, it's more of like a comment and I don't know
if there's like feedback that youhave on the end, but it's just.
It's awesome to hear, like theexperiences that you've had, they've
all accumulated into where you are now.
And I'm sure it's going to continueon, um, going through and the gifts
that God has given you, um, in voiceand talent and patience and, um,
(38:51):
leadership has really just accelerated,you know, as, as you go on with life.
And now what I'm seeing is.
The, the gifts that you were given, you'resharing that downstream, so to speak,
but those kids now, like the one that youmentioned is starting your own business
or starting their own business, like thatacceleration, you know, and the impact
(39:13):
that I think you're having without, maybe,you know, it, maybe not, but, um, the
impact that you have by giving back, youknow, um, it's such like, uh, you know,
we can be that little pebble in a pondor we can be like a big boulder and throw
it down and huge waves and everything.
Um, it's just.
Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
(39:33):
It's, it's inspiring just hearing theway that you look at life, the way that
you're sharing your life with othersand, and really pulling people up.
As you said, it sounds like almost likeyou're grabbing them and like really
nice hard whip to send them forward.
But, um, Yeah, I justwanted to comment on that.
That's all.
Kat (39:53):
Yeah, for me too, Kumi.
I mean, you know, it's, it's not, wedon't really talk a lot, you know,
so it's like, I mean, yeah, we worktogether, but it's not like we talk a lot.
So it's, I was just telling Liam, like,I really, I'm excited about this idea
of like, Putting up the podcast again,because it gives us an opportunity to
kind of just talk to people and like,Hey, learn a little bit more about them.
And, you know, so some of the thingsthat you shared, you know, today, I
(40:16):
mean, I didn't really know about you,you know, and so it's just incredible
to, to learn that and to just hear ofall your experiences, a lot of it, right.
And, um, and where you are now,it's, it's really incredible.
So thank you for being here.
Do you have any sort of, um,if you were to tell, you know,
(40:37):
especially parents, right?
What is like the one thing that theycan do for their kids to really help
their kids grow up into this growthmindset and having a growth mindset and
and be leaders for life, not just inthe future, In the present in there.
You know, how is thisrelatable to a third grader?
(40:58):
You know, like, how can a parent help thatchild become the leader that they need to
be in the present, not just in the future?
Kumi (41:05):
Yeah, I think it's really, I think it really boils down to providing your
child with the tools to recognize theirleadership skills and opportunities
to use their leadership skills.
So that can be anything from, youknow, You know, making sure you carve
enough time out to finish your homeworkbefore you go outside and play, or if
(41:27):
you want to join that extracurricularsport, you know, making sure your
grades are at a certain level.
And, you know, even like havingfriends over, like, is your room clean?
Is the bathroom clean?
What do we typically offer peoplewhen they come over to our house?
Something to drink, maybe somesnacks or something like that.
Like giving them.
Real situations and treating them likethey're in charge of their own life,
(41:49):
because at some point or another, theywill be, you know, and I think it really
shows when people allow their kids tofind that side of themselves, that leader
and that little adult who, you know, isgood at planning and considers, you know,
what it takes to even play or work withother people is really, it really shows.
(42:11):
I
Kat (42:12):
love that.
And what is your definitionof a wildly wealthy life?
Kumi (42:17):
I think my definition of a wildly wealthy life is being
immersed in having access to endlessamounts of what makes you happy.
It could be love.
It could be laughter.
It could be friendship.
It could be traveling.
It could be nature.
Wealth can come in many different forms.
(42:40):
We just have to realizethat for ourselves.
Kat (42:44):
Yeah.
Kumi (42:44):
What makes us happy.
Kat (42:46):
I love it.
Thank you, Kumi.
Thank you both so much.
Kumi (42:50):
This is so great.
I love spending time with both of you.
Kat (42:53):
It's really
Kumi (42:54):
fun.
Kat (42:55):
Kumi, I forgot to ask one more question.
Um, where can people find outmore about you, and if there's
anyone that wants to kind of getinvolved with what you're doing?
What you're doing, um, you know, howdo they, uh, keep in touch with you?
Kumi (43:08):
Sure.
Um, uh, you can, um, visit my Instagramat Kumi rocks, um, and send me a
message or you can email me at J NKumiyama, K U M I Y A M A at gmail.
com.
Awesome.
Lee (43:25):
Is it rocks?
R O C K S.
Yes, R O C K S.
Kat (43:30):
Because she rocks, you know?
You have to believe it,or else you're doing it.
Kumi (43:37):
Exactly.
100%.
Kat (43:39):
You have to say it all the time.
I rock.
I freaking rock, okay?
Kumi (43:43):
You have to wake up, look in that mirror, and be
like, Good morning, beautiful.
That's how you start your day.
Then that's how you start your day.
Kat (43:49):
Exactly.
Awesome.
Well, can we thank you againfor just being with us?
I really appreciate your time.
Kumi (43:57):
Thank you all so much.
Have a great one.
Kat (44:00):
All right, friends.
That's a wrap on today'sepisode of Wildly Wealthy Life.
We hope you're feeling fired upand ready to take on the world with
your brilliant mind and brave heart.
Lee (44:09):
If you love this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button on YouTube
or your favorite podcast platform.
It helps us Keep bringingyou the good stuff.
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And Hey, while you're at it, drop us a rating or review.
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Lee (44:22):
Also, if you know someone who could use a little guidance on growth,
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Sometimes that one conversationcan spark up a whole new direction.
Kat (44:31):
Thanks for hanging out with us today.
Go out there, live wildly, be wealthyin all the ways that matter to you.
And we'll catch you on the next one.
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