Black AF History with Pyschologist Dr. Warren Harper

Black AF History The Un-Whitewashed Story of America by Michael Harriot is presented by Psychologist and Mental Health Specialist Dr. Warren Harper on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.

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Warren Harper is here this morning.Doctor Harper's topic of conversation Black af History,

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the un white Washed Story of Americaby Michael Harriet. And let me
say good morning to you doctor Harper, How are you, Graydon, How
are you. I'm doing well.I'm doing well. I wanted to say
good. Was good seeing you onWednesday evening when you came to celebrate with
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your name's Believe me. You knowwe don't get out that often from
from time to time, but youknow it was our honor to be invited
and to be amongst those great,great human beings, black folks who had
done so much to help educate ourcommunity. Well, thank you, then
yourself, well, thank you,brother, Thank you brother, thank you
brother. Well this morning, doctorHarper. Door. This is a topic

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I'm ready for. This Black afhistory. The un Whitewashed Story of America
by Michael Harriet. Okay, okay, let's start, brother. Okay.
If there ever was a book thatis witty, easy reading, and chock
full of untold, shocking facts regardingthe experience as African Americans in this settler

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colony state called America, then thisis the book to purchase and read immediately.
It's that the African village as well. Anyway. The author of the
book is Michael Harriet, who isa columnist at The Grio, where he
covers at the intersection of race,politics, and culture. His work has
appeared in The Washington Post and TheAtlantic, and on NBC and BEET.

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Michael writes that quote America's backstory isa whitewash mythology implanted in our collective memory.
It is sugar coated legend based onan almost true story. It could
even be said that the devaluation anderasure of Black experience is as American as
apple pie. This is a bookwith a combination of both provocative storytelling and

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meticulous research, sprinkled with enough humorso that the painful and terroristic atrocities inflicted
on our African and African American ancestorscan be read without causing us to become
depressed, then enraged, and furthertake up arms against those who not only
oppressed our ancestors, but who havebeen brainwashed far too many of us to
hate, to hate our condition,the hate our militated skin, and to

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hate ourselves. The author, MichaelHerritt, begins the story centered in blackness.
That's important. It's centered in blacknessversus European whiteness. Whereas a man
named Juan Gerardo born in fourteen eightyseven in West Africa, was the first
hearing there' saying now the first documentedAfrican American. He is believed to have

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been the son of an African kingwho sent him to Portugal as an embissary.
At the age of fifteen, hejoined explorer Juan Ponce de leon expedition
to the New World. He traveledto Hispaniola, which is Haiti, then
throughout the Caribbean Islands, then ontoLa Napasa, Florida, later to become
the state of Florida. Then hetook up with Fernando Cortez and joined the

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Spanish conquest of Mexico, and laterhe traveled to the island of Califiga,
which became California, nearly a centurybefore the Mayflower even left England. Another
unwhitewashed fact about our ancestors is thatAfricans were first illegally trans reported here in
what would be called America on Augustninth, fifteen twenty six, not sixteen

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nineteen. Let me repeat that wewere here. We were brought here as
enslaved people August ninth, fifteen twentysix, not sixteen nineteen, when the
Spanish explorer Lucas Vasquez di Alegon broughtto the shores of what would be called
South Carolina dozens of enslaved Africans.In November of that year, the enslaved

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Africans and indigenous people joined forces andinitiated the America's first slave revolt, setting
fire to the buildings in the settlementand chasing Alvan and his colleagues Hellenisers out
of the city. Another one ofthe first three black men on North American
continent was Mustafa al Zamari named Astaban, who explored more of the North American

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continent than Lewis or Clark, buthe did so before Jamestown settlers were even
born. Esteban accompanied the explorer namedPapilio Narveres en route to La Florida in
fifteen twenty eight. He also exploredwhat would become Texas, Mexico, and
Arizona and crossed the Sierra Madre,a feat that had not been unsuccessfully attempted

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by every notable Spanish explorer on thecontinent. It is believed that Estebane died
a freeman along with the Zuni tribein Arizona. The author Michael Harris research
indicates that Native American tribes still sharestories of the mysterious black skinned man who
discovered more of America than Christopher ColumbusPonst. Deelion and Leif Ericson combined,

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and they described him as quote,the first white man our people saw was
a black man. They said,Let's move on to April twenty six,
sixteen oh seven, where one hundredand four English barbarians arrived in what would
be called Virginia, which was alreadyoccupied by thirty one individually governed tribes of
human beings, and immediately, asyou would imagine racists and vaders to do,

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they declared this land their own,ignoring the fact that a civilization was
already here. The author of thebook recounts the failures of the original colonists
who arrived in what is now calledVirginia with no knowledge as to how to
grow crops in this land, andwith even less knowledge regarding the proud indigenous
human beings who had who they hadto call upon to keep them from starving

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and to give them an almost permanentebt card so that they could stay alive.
As you can imagine, over time, the hungry disease filthy and desperate
Europeans wanted to be colonizers again,chose to resort to eating each other,
specifically quote, murdering pregnant women andeating their own children unquote. However,
we were not told by our Eurocentricoriented teachers in our integrated school classrooms that

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our Caucasian brothers and sisters engaged incannibalism anyway. So twelve years later,
in sixteen nineteen, when the Britishship named the White Lion arrived in what
is now called Virginia, it hadquote twenty and odd Negroes unquote, who
would be forced forced to provide theliving for the colonists and to send back
cash crops to England. And thatis how the enslaved Africans saved the day

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for the colonists, and this instituteinstituted the further illegal transhipping of Africans to
the Americans. Again, moving forwardfrom the book, beginning on September ninth,
seventeen thirty nine, we find nineteenand Goland and Goland African people outside
the city of Charleston, South Carolina, whose leader was named Jimmy. Jimmy

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was a warrior, combat strategist,fearless leader. He was literate in three
languages and believed to be an Angolandwarrior who was captured and sold during a
battle with the Rape and neighboring kingdomin Africa. But more importantly, Jimmy
and his band of brothers wanted freedomand retribution for what had been done to
them. For they robbed an armyof its guns and ammunitions, executed the

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shopkeepers, then proceeded to the Godfreyfamily plantation and killed the owner and his
family. Moving on, they encountereda white militia, resulting in twenty white
militiamen and over thirty black militiamen beingkilled and in the end of Jimmy and
his fearless force. This is knownas as the Stoner Rebellion and is sent
shockwaves of fear throughout colonial America,especially in places like South Carolina, where

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at least three fourths of the populationof that place where Africans or people of
color, and only one fourth werewhite. This resulted in many plantation owners
sending their families out of state toavoid any kind of trouble. This also
resulted in many plantation owners temporarily pausingof the slave trade and the decision to
bring to not bring any more enslavedchattel from Africa, and particularly from Angola.

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This also led the enslavers to theidea of breeding the enslaved people that
were already here, versus purchasing morefrom the African continent, at least for
a while. As a result ofthe Stoner rebellion, legislation was passed in
South Carolina which forbid enslave chattel peoplefrom growing their own food, earning money,
learning to write, or gathering ingroups of three or more. It

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prohibited black males from traveling together ingroups of seven or more without the presence
of a white man, and gaveowners of enslaved human beings the right to
kill an enslaved person who was rebellious. The author says, quote, the
legislation became the law of the landand the fabric of America. It was
intentionally a color coded, never ending, legally protected, constitutionally enshrined system of

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human trafficking that exhorted labor, intellectualproperty, and talent in the most brutal
way imaginable. It was born outof white fear and white supremacy. Now,
let's take a look at the RevolutionaryWar where we were still where we
were still taught that it was causedby the British bringing down economic wrath in
the form of overtaxation without representation onthe colonists. But what really shook the

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colonists into a war status was arumor that England was going to outlaw the
practice of owning human beings. Theywere going to outlaw the practice of slavery,
which you know, brought terror tothe white nationalist and slaver's plantation owners,
especially in places like Charleston, SouthCarolina. At that time it was
the slave capital of the New World. So in seventeen seventy five, when

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George Washington became Commander in chief ofthe new Continental Army, he ensured that
white supremacy was the rule by banningblacks from fighting, and he kicked out
all of the black soldiers who servedin state militias and replaced them with the
new all white army. But inApril seventeen seventy five, Virginia's royal Governor

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John Murray, he was the fourthEarl of Dunmore, he declared martial law
and seized the local militia's armory anddeclared that it belonged to the Royal Crown
of England, and on November seventh, seventeen seventy seven, the same governor
of Virginia, who was loyal toEngland and who owned enslaved people himself,
made the proclamation that quote all indentedservants, Negroes or others would be declared

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free unquote if they joined up withthe Brits. This resulted in the majority
of twenty five thousand black people whoin tim antionally and unenslaved themselves, and
most joined the British Army. Thegovernor also established the Ethiopian Regiment, a
British military unit composed of African freedomfighters who were commanded by a former enslaved

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man named Colonel Titus Cornelius. Thesefreedom fighters were issued uniforms featuring sashes inscribed
with the words quote liberty to slavesunquote. Colonel Titus Cornelius led a brigade
of grenegade of guerrilla fighters and burneddown the houses of patriots, stole cattle,
and freed the enslaved from white patriots. Shortly thereafter, George Washington rethought

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not allowing Negroes to fight, resultingin the establishment of the Rhode Island First
Regiment, which was the first blackAmerican military unit, which guaranteed freedom for
all enslaved men who fought in theRevolutionary War, which also became the policy
followed by other states. However,in the aftermath of the Revolutionary War,
Black historian George W. Williams wrotein eighteen eight that when people spoke of

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black patriotism in the American Revolution,quote, Negroes were rated as chattel property
by both armies America and the Berts, and both governments during the entire war.
This is the cold fact of history, and it is not pleasing to
contemplate. He said. The Negrooccupied the analogous position of an American slave
and an American soldier. He wasa soldier in the hour of danger,

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but a chattel slave in times ofpeace and quote. To this end,
the author rites that quote, theAfrican warriors were as useful to the cause
of American liberty as slaves were tothe cause of American wealth. Just as
they had become tools of the whiteman, so had they become the white
man's fighting force. While they soughtthe opportunity for freedom, they were hoodwinked

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into hitching their stars to patriotism orloyalty. As we now know, the
American won the Revolutionary War, butblack human beings did not gain their freedom
on either side of the ocean.The SATTII is that in each of American
wars, we as a people seekingfreedom, full citizenship, and racial justice,

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have continued to be hoodwinked and bamboozledinto believing that if we kill for
white America's freedom, then we willbe rewarded or have proven ourselves worthy of
our rightful freedom and liberties. Butthis has never been the case, and
in my opinion, it never willbe. Now. I am sure that
the listening audience has heard about amental illness diagnosed as drape domania, which,

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as white racist doctors would indicate itto be either runaway from home or
plantation madness. The cure for thisblacked enslaved mental madness was literally to beat
the hell out of the recaptured enslavedperson to teach him or her a lesson.
But more about this later. Moreabout this later. Well. There
was one so called drape domaniac namedForrest Joe, who was a Maroon bandit

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escape from the Carol Plantation in SouthCarolina. He had a propensity for leadership
and vanishing in thin air. Hewas six feet tall, light skinned,
and he dressed in a high fashionedmanner to blend in with his oppressors.
He also developed a vest a vestquote through which no ball could well pass
unquote, which meant he was theinventor of the first bulletproof vest. Also,

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he didn't give a damn about whitefolk's laws, and since they could
not catch him, the white slavecatchers made up the lie that Forrest Joe
knew magic and had extra long legsthat allowed him to outpace slave chasers and
other black maroon chasers. Therefore,he was not able to be shot and
killed. As he went about freeingand slaved Africans, every trap that was

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set to catch him failed, andthe enslaved men, women and children ensured
that he was kept aware of theplans that the slave catchers had for him.
Plantation owners and white races in generalwere terrified of Forest Joe, and
their terror grew even stronger when heopenly went to one of the plantations in
broad daylight and shot the plantation ownersdriver for snitching on his girlfriend and shout

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out the overseer as well. Joefinally sold was sold out by a Negro
who was promised his freedom, andduring the battle to destroy Forrest, he
was killed. The negro who soldhim out never was free. Wow.
Yeah, Wow, Wow boy.I got questions. Okay, I got
questions. We are in a session. This all I can say is wow,

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Doctor Harper. Oh my goodness,Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.
I like it. I like it. We are talking today, Doctor
Warren Harper is here. We arein session. Black af History, The
un white Washed Story of America byMichael Harriet. Our phone lines will be

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open. Let me give you thosenumbers. Let me give you those numbers
so you can have them. Ninezero one, five three, five,
nine three four two nine zero onefive three five nine three four two or
eight hundred five zero three, ninethree four two, eight hundred five zero

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three, nine three four two oreight three three five three five nine three
four two eight three three five threefive nine three four two. If you
have a question for Doctor Warren Harperthis day, as we continue our conversation,

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We are talking about the book calledBlack af History, The un Whitewashed
Story of America by Michael Harriet.Before you continued, doctor Harper, interesting
to know that I wrote down whenyou talked about and how many of us
knew this? It was fifteen twentysix, yes, not sixteen nineteen when

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Africans were illegally transported. That's right. This is wow. This is the
un white washed version and the truthabout black history and that this brother was
writing about. I see. Keepin mind, we have been given a
white version of our of our historyin this country, all our textbooks.
Basically we were coming up basically talkedDick and Jane. Everybody was happy and

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spot all the rest of that crazinesswas going on, and we were under
the impression that they were telling usthe truth about our arron here. It
was not sixteen nineteen, it wasfifteen twenty six. And quite frankly,
if we're talking about the Americas itself, Yeah, we were here back fifteen

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hundred year fifteen fifteen hundred BC.Wow, where they found the Omec heads
in Central America. So you know, the whole idea that we had to
wait on Ponce de Leon or Cortezor any other explorer. Hell, we
showed them the way Africans were travelingacross the ocean to what would become the
Americas, thousands of years before anyof these people were born. Wow,

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that's our history. That's the unwhitewashedversion of our history. Wow. So
to get it right, because Iwas thinking, like, okay, we
got it fifteen twenty six, nine, sixteen nineteen. And it's interesting.
See, they wanted, you know, the liars wanted to act as if
we you know, the Brits didit. The connection betwe in Europe and

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Britain in the United States. Yeah, no, No, the Spanish were
here long before the Brits were.Yeah, you know, they were the
ones that found what became a Floridaand all of South Carolina, all those
places. The Spanish were here,and they brought Africans with them, and
probably the Africans were one of steeringthe ships to begin with, you know.
And when you're interesting when you saythe Spanish did it, and look

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now we don't want them here,dude, that's something, isn't that something?
Wow? You know if they whenand if they do come, they're
gonna want to know their true historyas well. Sure. And the main
thing that scares the hell out ofwhite nationalists is truth. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, speak truth to power becausewhiteness is fear. Yes it is

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all right, doctor Harper. Let'scontinue Black af History. The un Whitewashed
Story of America by Michael Harriet backto drake the mania. As I said
earlier, the cure for runaway fromthe plantation madness was to beat the hell
out of the recaptured enslaved person well, according to the un Unwashed Unwhitewashed Story

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of America, in order to beatthe brother or sister or child almost to
death. There was an institution developedaround the punishment of runaways and other enslaved
chattel who refused to go along withthe enslaver's rules of conduct. This institution
was developed in the city of Charleston, South Carolina. The system was named
quote the corrections unquote industry, wherethe unruly enslaved person who had run away

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or just needed an adjustment and isher attitude was sent Locally, it was
called quote the sugar house unquote,which, according to the author Michael Herritt,
was an old sugar factory where cityworkers listen to this it was a
factory where city workers were paid towhip the mean, publicly, embarrassed and

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brutalize enslaved people who were runaways orotherwise defined and unruly Enslavers who did not
want to bloody their hands with beatingthe enslaved person would send him to the
sugar house quote for a bit ofsugar unquote, where enslavers would pay a
fee. They would pay a feein order to have someone else commit this
cruel act for them with a paddlewhip or cut of nine tails. This

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place of racial inflicted pain and terrorwould eventually become referred to as quote the
Department of correctionsuote unwhitewashed history. Brothersand sisters. Here we go, and
one more thing about South Carolina,which, as I've stated before, had
over twenty five thousand enslaved people andonly a fraction of Caucasian nationalists citizens.

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So as the author has indicated thatquote whiteness is fear, so in line
with this fear, we have ineighteen twenty two when South Carolina passed the
Negro Seamen Act. They passed theNegro Seamen Semen is a Sailor Act,
And to add insult to injury,the imprisoned sailors, who had committed no
crime had to pay for their owntime spending jails. And what I left

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out here is that when they passedthis law, that meant that any time
a seaman a black man came intothis country to that state on a ship,
they were put in jail. Theyhad to go to jail first,
okay, all right, required allsailors to be imprisoned when their ships were
docked in that state, and toadd insult to injury, the imprisoned sailors,

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black sailors who had committed no crime, had to pay for the time
spent in state jails or be soldinto slavery. This was declared by a
judge to be unconstitutional, but thestate continued to do it anyway. Overtime,
Georgia, North Carolina, Florida,Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas passed
black sailor laws as well. Nowas an aside, what they did is

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exactly what critical race theory is allabout. Where you have government and other
agencies and institutions who push laws orpolicies onto the books which are purely racist
and thereby make racism legal. Now, let's find out what African American women
were doing in the name of ourfreedom. Has anyone ever heard of Mary
Ellen Poissant? You never heard ofMARYA? I have not, Okay?

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Who was the author who the authorof the book describes as an un undercovered
billionaire and the smartest and richest blackwomen in American history. She was born
in eighteen fourteen whereabouts unknown. Shekept her background in mystery by claiming that
she was a former slave who purchasedher freedom, and at another time she
claimed to be voodoo priestess from theCaribbean. She worked initially for an abolitionist

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family in Nantucket Island. She hada formal education. She married a wealthy
Massachusetts business owner of Cuban descent,who died four years later and left her
with tens of thousands of dollars tofund her enslaved emancipation underground railroad career.
She remarried at Cook, who workedon a whaling ship, which gave her
the opportunity to transport runaway maroon enslavedpeople to Nova Scotia. She eventually moved

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to South Carolina. Excuse me.She eventually moved to California, but not
before being schooled in New Orleans bya voodoo queen. In California, although
she was worth a half million dollars, she took a job as a domestic
violence servant anyway and invested in oil. She used her good looks to manipulate

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wealthy white men, and by eighteenseventy five, she and her financial advisor,
Thomas Bell had made thirty million dollars, which is nearly a billion dollars
in today's currency. And oh yeah, she passed for white, but was
not ashamed or afraid to show hertrue color to her black beneficiaries. With
this money, she funded civil rightscases and earned the name of the Harriet

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Tubman south of Carolina, excuse meof California. Through funding the underground Railroad
and also funding the resettlement of newlyfreed Africans and their families, She also
filed a lawsuit for not allowing blackpeople to testify in court. We weren't
allowed to testify in court. Youknow that, don't you? Okay?
She also filed She also filed lawsuitsagainst the railroad to outlaws segregation on San

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Francisco public transportation, and she wonthe case. She also kept a book
regarding the wealthy white men that tookpart in the brothels that she owned,
as well as kept track of theillegitimate children and background political dealings of these
white people. Mary Ellen Plaisant spenther last years living in a thirty room

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mansion that spans six blocks. Youknow what I'm saying? I heard you
a thirty room mansion that spans sixblocks. Now let me interject John Brown
here. John Brown comes into theequation here. As we were taught in
every elementary and high school across Americathat John Brown was a somewhat insane abolitionist.

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But the truth is that he wassaying and that he gave his life
for our struggle for the evolution ofenslavement. And when he was hanged for
the trees and his murderers found anote in his pocket that read, quote,
an axe is laid at the footof the tree. When the first
blow is struck, there'll be moremoney to help unquote the note. The

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note was initial w E P.Well, what does that have to do
with Mary Ellen Plaisant. Well,the murderers who found the note inadvertently read
the initials on the note upside downas being w EP, but the initials
were E P. Mary Ellen Plassant, who along with others, funded John
Brown's abolition abolition movement. Next,let's take a look at the woman who

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desegregated Montgomery busses in nineteen fifty five. We all give credit to Rosa Parks,
but as the author of the bookentitled Black af History The Unwhite War
Story of America tells us this leavesout the others who were Claudette Covin are
really a browder Susie MacDonald, MaryLouise Smith, and Janetta Reese. Claudette

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coven On March second, nineteen fiftyfive, was fifteen years old and sitting
in the colored section of the buswhen she was demanded by the bus driver
to give up her seat to awhite woman, which she refused. She
was dragged off the bus and takento jail. She was also ridiculed.
The jailers ridiculed her body image.When interviewed later, she stayed a quote

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history kept me stuck to my seat. I felt the hand of Harriet Tubman
pushing me down on one shoulder,and so Jonah Truth pushing me down on
the other end quote the second busseat and civil rights fighter was a really
a browner who had six children,not a high school graft. However,
while enrolled in Alabama State University,she was encouraged by one of her professors

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to become involved in the civil rightsmovement. So on April nineteenth, nineteen
fifty five, she was arrested forsitting in the white section of a Montgomery
bus. She later earned her bachelor'sdegree in science. The third bus seat
and civil rights fighter was Susan McDonald, a seventy somemidd year old black woman
who could pass for being white.She was arrested for violating the bus rules

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on October twenty first, nineteen fiftyfive. She had forty two to inform
the bus driver that she was blackbefore she took her seat, and that
same day, a sister named MaryLouise Smith, aged eighteen, was also
arrested for sitting in the white seatsalong with genetic reefs. However, it
was Rosa Parks who was chosen totake the case to court, and why

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well, because Miss Park's bus protestswas planned, she had civil rights training,
and she had served as the secretaryof the Montgomery ANDAACP, and she
presented herself well. Claudette Coven wasnot chosen because she was dark skinned and
outspoken, pregnant and unmarried. Now, the rest of Claudette Coven's story is
that the professor who encouraged Claudette totake a seat for racial justice got mad

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when Claudette was arrested and through herWomen's Movement organization drafted thirty thousand flyers calling
for the Black community of bus ridersto stay off the buses for one day.
This is the sister that initially calledfor the orcott for one day in
process of unfair bus policy. Butthe civil rights movement was known to be

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driven by men versus women. Thendoctor Martin Luther King was nominated to give
the address, but King was reluctantand took a different narrative only calling for
a first come, first served seating. You didn't know that digit no,
I didn't more. And he alsowanted the bus drivers to be more courteous
towards Black residents and more African Americandrivers on bus routes. However, the

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African American famous lawyer named Fred Graycheck out the movie on Netflix entitled The
Servant that's about Fred Gray. Anyway, the civil rights leader named Fred Gray
did not choose to go along withthe soft pedal of doctor Martin Luther King
Junior, and so he took chargeand found Covin Crowder McDonald reeson Smith and

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found a civil rights lawsuit against thecity and they won the case as well
as the Supreme Court case with thecourt finding that segregation was unconstitutional on Montgomery
City transportation back in December twentieth,nineteen fifty six, and the bus boycott
ended. Now, this is thebackstory and the unwhitewashed story as well as

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the unblackwashed story, as well asthe Montgomery bus boycott and all the sisters
and Attorney Fred Smith, who isstill alive today, the brothers Fred Sprig
is at least now Again, wewere taught that everything just kind of fell
in place, right that Martin LutherKing and doctor King called for the bus
boycott. No, he didn't.Let's tell the truth. He didn't.

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He was reluctant to sue the wholething. He had to be forced to
do it because he was new.Yeah, I mean, how could say,
I mean hearing anyone who would believehim. But anyway, the bottom
line is that they were able topush for at least one day and it
was because this sister was the professorwithout thirty thousand flyers saying we need the
boycott for one day anyway. Again, before I go on to tell another

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story from the book entitled Black Airof History, The Unwhitewashed Story of America,
I just want to say again howreasonable this book is, and how
the brother wrote this book as ifhe were telling a long story to the
reader who was sitting on pins andneedles to hear more and more like I
felt while reading this powerful book onstruggle, conflict, resistant, self emancipation

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and fighting full force for our freedom. Now, as anyone ever heard of
sister Mary LOVISTI, well neither didI. The author Michael Harriet says that
she changed the history of warfare andhelped millions of enslaved people taste freedom.
Well, what does she do?Mary Levuste was a seamstress, artist and
a free woman who, while workingoverheard a Confederate engineer talking about a plan

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to reinforce confederateships with iron to keepthem from being so sinkable. With this
knowledge, she literally traveled to Washington, d c. And reported what she
had overheard to officials at the Departmentof the Navy, who in turn rushed
up the building of the unionship namedthe USS Monitor, which, as a
result of her information, was reinforcedwith iron and with which won the battle

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with the Confederate ship named the USSMerrimac during the Civil War. This gained
nationwide attention and gave the Navy aclear advantage on the seas. Next,
how many of you and the listeningartists know that there are three versions of
the Confederate flag. Now, someof you may say it doesn't really matter,
it does not a big thing,But there were three versions of it.

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Confederate Flag one it was too familiar, too similar to the US flag
with the exception of fewer stripes.Confederate Flag member two called quote the white
Man's flag unquote by its developer,William Thompson back in eighteen sixty three,
who was quoted by the author ofthe book as saying, quote, as
a people, we are fighting tomaintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white

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man over the inferior or colored race. A white flag would thus be emblematic
of our cause. But no,this flag didn't fly either. Confederate Flag
number three, the Confederate fag thatis known of today is Walde, the
battle flag of the Army of theNorthern Virginia under the command of General George.

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General Robert E. Lee, theloser Confederate General. Now, as
I wrap up my reviewing of thisamazing easy reading book storytelling of the Black
aff his Unwashed History of America.I would like to leave the listening audience
with a few quotes as to whatthis book is all about. Want me
to go on? And should Istop here before I go for the quotes,
Let's let's stop here. Okay,let's stop here, and then this

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will give us an opportunity, DoctorHarper. We will open up our phone
lines for some of our listeners.If you have questions for Dr Harper this
day, we do invite you tocall nine zero one, five three,
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to two eight hundred five zero threenine three four to two eight hundred five
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have heard this history? Think aboutit, get your questions in. You

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and welcome back to the second halfof the Bev Johnson Show here on WDIA.
When session with psychologists mental health specialists, Doctor Warren Harper is in the
house. Topic of conversation black af history The un whitewashed story of America
by Michael Harriet and doctor Harper.We're going to our phone lines to talk

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to some of our listeners. Thankyou all for waiting. Hi, Robert,
do you say how you doing today? I'm doing well in yourself,
he is rested. Lower listen,all I want to try to find out
on the path that Savage twenty lostdown the street and New Beginning Bible.
I'll reach ministry, but I showI got all these children I gut.

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But listen, I'll show a lotto get this book. Know how to
get this on the whitewash book,Yes, sir, yes, all you
have to do is contact Norman redWing at the African Village. I had
mentioned the book to him about threeweeks ago. He was going to order
him. I'm sure he probably hasthem now. The book is go over
there and believe me when you readit. I believe the book is about

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three hundred and eighty some of mypages long. I've given you a small
taste of the kind of the kindof things that you will learn from that
particular book. And it's not allnecessarily new history, but it is the
untold story behind the history that thatblack people knew, not the whitewashed version
of it. There's some new heretoryto a lot of us because I had

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never heard it before him. I'mseventy years old. Okay, I hear
you, brother. So so misterRobert, Pastor Robert, do you have
a pencil you can write down Norman'snumber. Yes, Norman red Wing Wing

(42:19):
that's right. And here here's hisnumber. It's nine zero one eight five
nine one six eight nine. Yeah, and call Norman and tell him telling

(42:42):
me you heard doctor Harbur and youwant to get that book. I heard
doctor or doctor uh hunh, that'sit. And he was talking about the
Black a f History, the unwhitewashed story of America by my Harriet.
And tell them you want to getthat book, and you want to get
it for some children. And Ilove that, Pastor Robert, get it

(43:06):
for some children. Yeah, that'sall. I got a lot of young
children at my church and new atseven twenty Los Angeles Street, and I
show this is one of the bestthings that you're don't rate. And I
don't heard listening to that, youngman, I said, go look at
God. I need to know.Halloelujah, Yes, sir, hallelujah.

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Well you call Norman today, Okay. Now that's eight five, nine one
six A man, that's on one. That's correct, that's correct. I
am going to call him. Whattime can I call call him? You
can call him when you hang upfrom me. I got you, man,
keep up the good work out meanGod stun up and bless you over

(43:49):
and over you and miss Bill.That's right. Well, thank you so
much. Thank you, Pastor Robert. Okay, bye bye bye bye.
See doctor Harper. We love tohear that when he said he has a
lot of children at his church.That's right, that's exactly what I like
to hear. You know, fromtime to time, you know, you
think that you're kind of out there, just kind of out there by yourself,
just kind of howling at the moon. But then again, we have

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a number of callers here. We'revery bright callers here. You basically want
to know more about what's going on. And believe me, if you if
you can't buy the book, butwhich I recommend everyone do, check him
out on YouTube. He's all Michael, Michael Harriet is all over YouTube talking
this book. Okay over YouTube,okay, YouTube, going back to our
phone line to talk with you.Thank you for waiting. Hi, mister

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James, good morning. How youdoing, Belwie? How you doing?
Doctor Harper. How you you great, great, great doctor Hopper. You
just keep bringing it. Huh,I see you just you don't let up,
hunh you just keep bringing it.Can't stop doing it, can't stop
doing. I heard that. Iheard that, and Belie, I really
enjoyed a Friday when you guys hadall the WA historians on and I just

(44:59):
enjoyed listen to all all love it. Uh uh you and and and John
the Newsman, Johnohn, John lawstoh Man. You know, I would
just uh you know, I wasjust in all all the things that you
guys were saying, all the thingsthat you guys were bringing, because I
grew up on the news, andwhenever me and my brothers were sisters would

(45:20):
get to fighting over the TV,my mom would saying, just put it
on the news. She said,the world could be coming to end and
we'll never know. So we justset there and watched the news. And
I'm you know, I just loveinformation like that, Dr Happer. But
doctor Hopper, uh, it's youknow, it's it's good for black people
to read the Bible. I mean, if you want to read that Bible,
read the Bible. But there areso many more other books that Black

(45:43):
people need to read to get thesole truth, the soul truth, and
that's what we need. And whendoctor Happer, when you was talking about
the Spaniards coming to North America,South America, Africans were here already.
Native American Indians were talking about Africansbeing here and they described them as tall
dog gods. They wore a lotof gold. Africa was trading with with

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with North America. And when Africawent to South America, Uh, they
brought the same thing, go tradeand the sport of soccer. African Africans
brought that. Wow, that's thethat's that is the most played sport,
the most popular sport in the world. Africans brought that to South America.

(46:29):
And the best soccer player ever wasPlate black Man. So doctor Harper,
I'm you know, I'm just gonnacontinue to listen. Uh. You bring
so much good information, so muchI would like to ask and and and
and talk to people, but thisis just a radio station. So I'm
gonna let you go ahead on andtalk. You have a question, get
a question in now, come on, come on, mister James. You
can get a questions. No no, no, no, no no no,

(46:50):
I just want to listen. Ijust I just I just want to.
Like I said, I just haveso many questions. I don't know
where to start stop Hurst, butI just want to listen and and and
and thank you so much for takingmy caller. And I'm just gonna continue
to listen. Other people need tohear It's just like I need to hear
it. James, thank you somuch. Brother Omar, Yes, good
afternoon, all morning, whatever itis, be alive. I want to

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add some to this. I readthe book here The African Presence in America
by brand Cirtauma, and he wasshowing where the Nubian heads in ancient America
or our ancestors. Yes, uh, the black Nubian had statues and things
like that was all they said,Nigroyd. But it was our people.

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Our ancestors have been all over theworld, even in China when you look
at Boodle's hair, not the hairrolled curse. Our people have been everywhere.
Am I not right? Brother?You're exactly right, you know?
And and see you know there wasthere was a brother I'm trying to think
of his name now, who wasWho was the expert who just recently passed.

(47:55):
He was expert on Asian Africas inAsie Africans in age. Uh,
it wasn't best and it wasn't vantit was maybe maybe his name will come
to me. But anyway, yearsago, when I was first stationed here,
I was with a group called agroup we called ourselves the Pyramid Circle,
and you know the the the LeastSisters were part of that, and

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Chef will Burn and a few otherpeople that I kind of forget their name,
but anyway, we we facilitated bringingof doctor Charles Finch, which is
a physician who studied who studied allabout African medicine as well as UH as
well as UH five three three orfour other brothers who were who were were
who were experts on the African continentas well. Here back back when the

(48:38):
Pyramid was first when when they broughtthe what was that when they bought the
Downtown Downtown, when they bought Ramseythe exposition, Yeah, we bought we
facilitated the bringing of those brothers hereto talk about the real history of Africans

(48:58):
throughout the world. And believe me, it blew my mind when he was
showing when this brother was showing picturesof the real Buddha. The real Buddha
is a black man. Yes,sir, we're currently hair with curly hair,
na napi hair. Those all mickheads, I think they call them all
the heads head all Mexico were ourpeople, up and down. We've been

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all over the world. We've beenall over the world. And uh,
you asked where the black man history? You take Egypt right now, the
Egyptology they try to paint it iswhite. But it's our people, the
Pharaohs and all over these rounds isafter Nat took to common all if those

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were our ancestors. But in uhin uh Egyptology they try to paint everything.
Right now, you take the holidaythis holiday now for Christmas and all
that kind of stuff. Taking holidays. I don't pay no attentions. Uh,
just so man, I will haveI won't have you to hang I'm

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gonna hang up and listen that youcome in with and tell me if I'm
right. Thank you, brother,thank you brother. Ma. Well everything
you said was correct. You know, any anyone that that also wants to
get further educated, you can goback again to the African village because Norman
red Wing has plenty of copies ofof Anthony Browner's book. And believe me,
that was one of the first booksthat I read when I was over

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when I was stationed in in Tokyo, and I got with a an African
American Brothers and Sister study group onbase and we we basically read all a
lot of these books. We alsohad all we had videotapes of doctor named
A. Bar and other people whowere who were given classes on and helping
us to really understand our history.That was many, many years ago.

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I wanted to ask doctor Harper thatwhen go back one of the things before
we continue that when you talk aboutthe Montgomery bus boycott, Yes, and
and and I had heard the storyof one woman, Yeah, yeah,
but that she was before Rosa Parks. All these were four ros before Rosa

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Parks, and and they were inthe civil rights movement. They sure were.
They basically knew that they were thereto protest the unfair treatment that African
Americans were given in terms of busriding and bus seating in Montgomery. And
they were willing to go to jailfor protests and their protests. And but
again, you know, since sinceRosa Parks basically was with the NAACP,

(51:35):
she she had gone to training,so she basically they had taught it,
groomed her on how she's supposed tocompose herself when she is arrested. And
you know the other ladies were youknow, one had children, one was
seventy years old. But again theyall felt a need to basically protest in
the way that they did one ofthe things. And and and and I
was thinking when you talked about theNUBLEACP and so A proposed and I will

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be there this this Saturday. NDouble a CP is having their membership drive.
But they they've always been there forfighting. That's right, that's right,
you know, And I don't carewhat people will say. We've heard
the story, but the N doublea CP was there in the beginning and
now they still need our help.And you know the thing that that that

(52:22):
that that upsets me is that isthat the N Double a CP Legal Defense
Fund. Yes, I mean,these were the lawyers that were out there.
I mean think about this, Thesebrothers and sisters were literally leaving Washington,
d C. Where they were relativelysafe, and traveling into the Deep
South where you know that there thatthere was a bounty on their heads.

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To begin with and they stayed there. They stayed in the homes of other
African American people. They had guardson their houses, and the black folks
who were there said, they ain'tgonna these white folks ain't gonna touch you
because we will basically keep you,keep you safe. And they stayed in
the South and they fought these battlesfor us. They were not cowards,
they were heroes. And see forthat kind of for that kind of greatness,

(53:07):
we ordered all fund the NAACP comeevery day of our life because it
seems like, you know, backthen the struggle, now what we're going
through, we're going through the samesame thing, the same thing now twenty
twenty three, they're still fighting thecivil war, still fighting the civil war,
and they want to put us backin the black codes again. Black

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codes. Yeah. One of thethings that that I love doctor doctor Harper,
and that's why we love doctor Harperbecause he gives us his history.
A brother invented the bulletproof vest.What he he he said that he was
going to put some some some somelining up there that was going to keep
that. You know, they followwhat they call shots, you know,

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and the shot basically could not penetratewhat he had, what he had invented.
So yeah, he was the onethat invented the bullet proof vest.
Now they may say somebody else didit. Yeah, but he was the
one that that people knew who hadput this this this gear together to put
on himself because he knew he waswalking amiss amongst his oppressors. I liked
it. And when we were talkingabout getting the true history, and I

(54:13):
learned something yesterday, doctor Harper,looking at Sunday morning that people when we
hear doctor King the march on Washingtonand the brother who put it together,
who told doctor King he was theorganizer? Oh his baniard, his name

(54:34):
just just wasn't wasn't wrestling? Yeah, yeah, yeah that I didn't know
that that he was the organized heput that march together. That's a genius.
Yes he was, they said hewas. Yeah, he was a
put it together. Wow. Andsee again you know the the the white

(54:54):
version of all these things. It'skind of the quick version. The same
way as as and why to hearpeople talk about MLK, how how dare
you say EMLK? His name wasdoctor Martin Luther King Junior. That's the
same see see when when you start, when you start following these oppressors ways
of dealing with us and talking aboutus and characterizing us, because they'll say

(55:16):
MLK, that's it. You quicklyget away, get away from it.
The bottom line is that he ishe's deserving me with the respect of being
called doctor Martin Luther King Junior.And we ought to respect that ourselves.
I agree. Back to our phoneline is doctor Hopper w D I a
Hi caller, hellober Hey, youon the air? Oh you doing doctor

(55:37):
Hopper? What hey Woodson? Howy'all doing great? Well? I hadn't
heard that book that you mentioned her. But when I tell I try to
go to all the black locations andwhatever see that go to. And I
think I finally got around to goingto Mont Domber and my wife took me
so long. And they have thewhat the Confederate White House there, you

(55:58):
see Confederate White House. But theyhad their statue on the corner where Rosa
Parks, where the restaurant used tobe, and they got her and the
name of the four other women theywho went before her too. I can't
can't find my picture of her yet, but yeah, they had the whole
statue of her and everything like that. But I've been thinking Alabama seemed to
have more Black history sites in anyof their state. You got your Selma

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at the Montgomery n Ham Tuskegee uhand a mobile. I'm thinking, dang
Black Book were really you know,cutting up in Alabama and Mississippi Tuesday.
Yes, But whenever, whenever Igo to different cities like just where you
in Chicago, and they have afew Black history sites in a face like

(56:45):
Jesse Jackson's uh Operation Rainbow Place andwhat you call I can't think of that.
My mind's gone now. But theyhave a few sites there. But
I know it's in Alabama from ona small towns. They have a lot
more Black history sites, but someblack folks there have never even been to
I asked him where it is.I don't know. That's right? Rightetting

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that good knowledge, doctor, Thankyou Woodson. Before I go to this
other phone line, doctor Harper,I just got an email from my soa.
I love her, Elaine Lee turning, She says, BEV tell doctor
Harper, the historian that he referencedis Ronoko no Karashidi. Yes that's right,

(57:30):
Elaine Lee turned Thank you so much. Yeah, so you know that
ain't not ron. I've never heardthat name before. Korrashidi, the brother
just died about maybe a year orso ago. Believe me, this this
brother had had a power, hadhad PowerPoint slides of Africans in in Asia,

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and believe me, you could kindof see how how how Africans kind
of kind of morphed into looking moreof what we call Asian over a period
of time. All right, butbelieve me, we saw I saw black
Africans in Asia. He had picturesof Wow, we were the first Africans.
We were the first people in asin Asia. That's right, Wow,

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all over the world were all overthe respect Hey we had we bad,
we bad wd. I a highcaller bell, Yes, hey Bill,
this is big Hebrew. How youdoing? I'm doing fine, big
Hebrew? How are you really good? Like a Hebrew? Sholt? What's
up? Doctor Harper? You brotherall the time? Hey, let me

(58:37):
share this shit with y'all. Now, there were Egyptologists in the eighteen hundreds,
okay, maybe late eighteen hundreds,and what they did they found quanial
remains in Egypt, and they foundquanial remains of the Negroes in America.

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But they also found they found twocranial heads in Egypt, and they they
matched them up with the cranial headsin my uh in America. Now,
one of the cranial heads in Egypt, it didn't match the cranial head in

(59:21):
America. But the other cranial headthat they found in Egypt, it matched
the head in America. And theone head of the cranian in Egypt was
of the superior people, Okay,And they found one of the slaves.
So what the Egyptologists found out,y'all, now the old marb this is

(59:44):
to you because I share with y'allwe are the Israelites. The Israelites were
the people that were in bondage inancient Egypt. Okay. And so these
egypt toologists found out that there weretwo races of black people. And what
I'm trying to show with y'all,if doctor Harper, if you go into

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an African store and see an Africanbehind the counter, you know that they're
black. But for some reason youknow that we are different. Okay.
After the blood, doctor Harper,Noah had three sons, Ham, him
and Jeffet. If you look inthe Zondervan Bible Dictionary, of the definition

(01:00:34):
of ham Bill, It's gonna sayham live approximately ninety six years after the
blood. He is the progenitor ofthe dark races, the Egyptians, the
Libyans, the Ethiopians, and theCanaanites, but not the Negro What are

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the Bible's dollars saying, doctor Harper, You're not Africans. Africans are Hamatic,
they come from Hem. We areSemites. That's why when Pharathon talks
about the Jewish people, they sayinghe's being anti Semitic. They took that

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ates off to further convince the worldthat they are God's people. If they
were God's people, doctor Harper,and everybody's listening to Big Hebrew, they
would be calling themselves the Israelites.But they call themselves the israel Lies because
they July. Thank you, doctorHarper. I want y'all to understand something.

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No, we are not African.Look, doctor Harper, just like
you said about the guy with Obamawhen Oba was on the phone, he
had curly hero. Yes, doctorTarborough, we've been scattered because doctor Harper,
you got eleven brothers that are blackfrom the days of the Bible that
are still on the earth. Thetwelve tribes and y'all isaaik. Look,

(01:02:00):
we are scattered throughout the whole world. So just understanding when you say that
we're Africans, we're not Africans.We're shams Us and the a Rams because
they come from Abraham. Thank you, Dot Pop. Yeah, well,
well let me let me respond.Let me respond to that just a little.

(01:02:21):
You know, my understanding of scienceis that there is there is only
one race, big Hebrew, onerace. It's the human race. Now,
when we start breaking off people intoraces of people, it does not
exist. There's no such thing asthis race and that race and this race.
It all came from one seed.All right, Now that's my understanding.

(01:02:44):
Now, I'm not necessarily saying you'rewrong. I just don't know you're
understanding enough to be able to comprehendwhat you're saying enough so that I could
I could have an intelligent conversation withyou. But I can say one thing,
According to all science that I know, there's only one race, one
race, and that race began onthe African continent. And if it then

(01:03:06):
get on the African continent, theywere probably black people. And during that
time they were either called they wereeither called Nubians or they were called Ethiopians,
and what have you. Matter offact, they were people before there
was religion. I mean people werehere first. They didn't come out,
they were not they were not producedby by by God, and all of
a sudden they automatically went into aparticular religious group. They were people here

(01:03:30):
first. So therefore, if thepeople were here first, and the people
were Africa, were born on theAfrican or Ethiopian or the a queb A
line continent, then they were blackAfricans. That's how I see it.
But I understand that you have adifferent perspective, and that's school too,
Doctor Harper. When we come back, we'll get you to wrap things up
as we continue to talk again ifyou have a question or two four doctor

(01:03:54):
Harper, nine zero one five threefive nine three four two eight hundred five
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(01:04:15):
Happy birthday, Byron Hope. Youhave a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful
day to day. I know you'vedone and Dada's the most cowboys I can't
stand over. Happy Birthday Byron fromyour wife Renee and your children, the
folks who love you. Yeah,continue to celebrate your life when we come

(01:04:35):
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Okay. As I wrap up reviewingof this amazing easy reading storytelling of
the black, af un white warststory of America, I would like to
leave the listening audience with a fewquotes as to what this book is about,

(01:07:11):
which was penned by author Michael Harriethimself. Beginning with quote, this
book recognizes that the English, Dutch, Spanish and French land thieves are just
white people. While it may sometimesseem abrasive, confrontational, even dismissive,
the book recognizes that the only differencebetween a burglar and a settler is who

(01:07:32):
writes the police reports. In fact, the only difference between the Black af
version of history and the way America'sstory is customarily recounted is that the whiteness
is not the center of the universearound which everything else revolves. In this
book, Africas are not victims,their warriors from the Ashante Kingdom and the
founding fathers of the true Gullah cultureand the creators of America's first democracy.

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In this book, the country weknow as United States is just a parcel
of land that was stolen and repurposedas a settler state using European logic and
the laws of white supremacy. Thisbook is a story about a strong armed
robbery. It is about family andfriends trying to recover what was stolen.
It is the testimony and the verdictthat a jury of our peers has never

(01:08:19):
heard. He goes on to sayevery single stereotype that remains about black people
was disproven after the Civil War.We were smarter, we worked harder,
and we were not the violent ones. The criminal enterprise called America is nothing
but a self perpetuating white supremacy machine. The only parts that are good and

(01:08:40):
decent are the ones we shine withour spit. Everyone who calls themselves the
citizen is a byproduct of our determinationto free ourselves. Due process exists because
of us. The founders said,all men are created equal. We,
the ones who made this country,proved it. All of the evil that
the world has ever had to offerhas been lobbed in our direction. They've

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enslaved, they brainwashed. They lynchedus separately and massacred us by the hundreds.
They enslaved us by the boatloads,and sold our families in pieces.
They mined our muscles and minds forthe prophet and build an empire from it.
And when we did the same withouttheir help, they set it on
fire. This is America, afloor slick of blood. But that is

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not who we are. And lastly, the author writes in the last two
paragraphs of the book, quote,like its history, this nation is the
mirage. Its greatness is a figmentof a collective white imagination that envisions a
bright, shining star where there isonly a dumpster fire. America is a
con arters. It is a counterfeitforest of a white country convinced of its
own supremacy. It is a booton every black throat and a noose on

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every negro's neck. Yet it remainslike the perseverance that overcomes white supremacy,
like love that conquers hate, likethe truth that outshines justice, Like the
backs and hands and muscles and mindsof the beloved black disper that will collectively
build our imperfect union into a home. If this nation ever truly becomes a

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post racial society with the liberty andjustice for all that the history of black
people in America reflect, we weredoing it first, Brother Michael Harriet powerful
book. Wow, Wow, Ilove this information you've given us because,
like I said, some of itI've hadn't heard and a lot of people
haven't heard on It's so much morein the book. It's a lot,

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So you need to get the bookto read it. If you need to
get the book. Yeah, oneof the things I will talk about is
we were talking. I was thinking, doctor Harper, Big Hebrew said,
it doesn't matter what we call ourselves, but what we got, you know,
because you people will think and dowith them. But the main thing

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now, in twenty twenty three,we better get ready for twenty twenty four.
We have to get ready of twentytwenty four. Question is you know,
are our is our thinking going tobe divided around how we classify ourselves
or is it going to be isit going to come together about what is
the goal of black people? Arewe going to be free? How do

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we stay free? How do wekeep certain people coming from all coming into
office who are going to further oppresspeople of color? This is what Trump
is all about. And for usto, from time to time disagree on
who we are one thing. Forsure, we're black. We know that
for sure black, whether we likeit or not. And some might say,
well, well I'm brown, I'mwell no, no, Well,

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the bottom line is that we areconsidered as black people by most, if
not, if not all, andwe are considered as Africans or African Americans.
And that's cool with me. Ifyou choose to see yourself as a
black israel like, that's fine too, you know. But see if we
keep splitting ourselves into let's see,light skin negroes, dark skinned negroes,

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brown skin color people, black fivepercenters, whatever. See, the Europeans
have used that tactic for I don'tknow how long to try to keep us
apart. The bottom line is thatwhatever religion you are, you are still
a person of color, and youare still in this country oppressed. So
your religious background does not give adamn about being respected by nobody else.

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The bottom line is that if you'renot white, you're not considered valuable or
human being. So, whether youare a Black Israelite, a Black Christian,
black Christian Nationalist, a Catholic orwhatever, musliu, a Muslim,
black Muslim, in this country,you are not free. And we need
to come together under whatever banners wehave and get ready to fight this fight

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for twenty twenty four. If not, we are going to be crushed out
of the people. We're going backinto slavery. Hell, we're smiling right
now, walking towards it. Who'sgonna stop the smile? And as you
said, hey, your vote counts. It definitely counts. Your vote counts.
And when people say your vote don'tcount, I'll go back and say,

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look at the big fight they washaving in the house represented the vote
count. Vote count. Your votecounts, and that's something that's right.
Your vote counts. And believe me, you'll say, well, all politics
are like all politicians are like,no, you voted the fool in there
if the fool is not doing thisjob, you're the fool because you should
have investigated anybody that you put inthat office. And if you didn't,

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you're the ass not the person yougot. The person you put that you
put in there is doing what heor she decided to do, and that
was to gain the system and makemoney or gain power political power themselves.
You didn't do the investigative work.Therefore, you're responsible for people who are
not representing you correctly. And asyou we said, and we got to
get our minds right back car.We got to got mine right because again

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people are out here continuing trying tosuppress, opress and depress us, and
we have to start waking up tothe fact that that we're the only ones
gonna save us from anybody. Yeah, because no one else. As as
doctor Clark said that, other peoplehave said, nobody wants to help the
black man. Accept the black man. That's right. Get this last phone
called doctor Harper before we get outof here. W D I A hi

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caller. Hey, hey beb howyou doing doing well? Common man?
All right? How you doing doctorHarper? Great brother? All right,
all right. I was really justlistening to y'all today. But I just
you know, listen to Big Hebrewmy thing about the comings that he made.
Number One, let let people chooseto believe or understand what they believe

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or understand. Stop trying to shovesomething down on people, you know.
And at the end of the day, we are a group of people,
whether we're called the Israelites, blacks, you know, or Negroes or whatever,
we are people. And stop tryingto force us to divide and separate.
We need to become unifad whether we'recalled Israelite or whatever. And if

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you know something that somebody else don'tknow, understanding, everybody don't know what
you know, if we don't knowwhat you're saying is correct or not,
whether it's correct or not, Sostop trying to force it down on people.
For stars, but the beginning,just stop, you know, I
mean, enough is enough of bighe boo, you know. But that's
kind that's all. Like I'm justlistening to you all today. But man,

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come on, you know, Imean, he boo, Come on,
man, that's all I got,Bill, Thank you, coming man?
All right? Any other last words, Doctor Harper, I think it's
important that we continue to read andread and read, and read and read
the right books. In order todo that. You're not going to find
a better place to find the booksthan the African village. You know.
It's sad that the city this big. I don't know no other store that

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sells the the these kinds of booksand in the type of variety that he
has, and the fact that we'renot making him well. The behind all
the bookselling and all the other thingsthat he's doing over there says that we
still are neglecting ourselves and putting ourselveson the back burner of civilization. We

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ought to stop that, Doctor WarrenHarper, Thank you brother. Until the
next time. Thank you callers,thank you listeners for joining us this day
on the Bev Johnson Show. Wedo, we really do appreciate you.
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