Dr. King Then & Now with Dr. Warren Harper

Dr. King's Message to All Americans Then & Now with Dr. Warren Harper, Behavioral Political Health Consultant on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.

Episode Transcript

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Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome into w
U d I A The beb Johnson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
It is in a deed a pleasure to have you
with us.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Once again on this Thursday, September twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.
Enjoyed this fabulous day to day. Well, get ready to
put your ears on back in the house. Our brother
is here, our behavioral political health consultant.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Doctor Warren Harper, is in the house. When it's your
turn to talk, you know you can.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
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And if this day, this day Thursday, September twenty fifth,
twenty twenty five, enjoyed this fabulous day today, And if
this is your birthday, Happy birthday to each and every
one of y'all out there who may be celebrating on

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a birthday this day, this day was my grandmother, my beloved,
my beloved grandmother's birthday, Maybell Rogers Dinner, my grandmother responsible
for me being in radio. My grandmother, my grandmother, Doctor Harper,

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my grandmother, so heavenly, Happy birthday to my grandmother, Maybell
Rogers Dinner. And all of you all out there who
may be celebrating a birthday on this day, go out
and celebrate your life.

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You better, you better.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
When we come back, we'll talk to our behavioral political
health consultant, doctor Warren Harper and me Bev Johnson.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
On Bev Johnson Show on w.

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Speaker 4 (04:49):
Welcome back to wd I A the Heart and Soul
of Memphis. Back in the saddle is our behavioral political
health consultant, Dr Warren Harper. Good morning to you, Doctor Harper.
How are you doing fine, babing, Good morning to the
listening audience. Where's all this rain coming from?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Man?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, doctor Harper, you know we needed the rain, that's right.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Well, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Because one of my my my hairstyles.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
So they where she lives. She lives in Mississippi and
they have a pond back there. She said, our pond
is it was dry, so she said, we need some water.
So and I think some of we needed some rain.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
So.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
But but it's supposed to be over today, doctor Harper,
because it's gonna be a beautiful weekend for the Southern
Heritage Classic this weekend.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
And that's always a great look.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
And that's a great look. That's a great look, doctor Harper. So,
and so people don't want to be out in the rain,
Doctor Harper. When the parades on Saturday morning in Orange Mound,
they have that parade.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I've been there before, I know. So it's gonna be good,
Doctor Harper. Well, this morning, Doctor Harper. A topic of conversation,
Doctor King's message to all Americans then and now, I
love that, Doctor Harper, and Donald Trump's derange cult followers. Yeah, brother,

(06:16):
I'm waiting to hear this. So we ready to rock
and roll, Doctor Harper, Let's go.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
In nineteen sixty seven, doctor Martin Luther King Junior stated quote,
I'm going to be honest enough to tell you that
I am worried about America. I'm worried about our nation
because it's sick with racism.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Still.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Just think about the fact that we live in a
nation which was founded on the principle that all people
are created equal, and yet men are still arguing over
whether the color of a man's skin determines the content
of his character. And I believe, I believe that the
Lord told me to say to the United States of
America that it is sick with the triple evils of racism, militarism,

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and obsessive materialism. He said, you go on to say,
have you ever heard have you ever thought about it?
There are between thirty eight and fifty million people in
the United States of America who are poverty stricken, make
an income less than the poverty level, and yet this
is the richest nation in the history of the world.
Our gross national product in nineteen sixty seven was beyond

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eight hundred billion dollars, and yet there are between thirty
eight and fifty million people who are poverty stricken. Now
something is wrong. A lot of people are afraid to
say it. A lot of people are afraid to say it.
But I don't mind saying it. You see, somebody said
to me the other night, doctor King, don't you think
you're gonna have to start speaking more in terms of

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the administration's policy since you started talking against the war
in Vietnam. It's hurt the budget of your organization, and
people that once respected you don't respect you anymore. And
here we go with doctor King, he says. I looked
over and said, sir, I'm sorry, but you don't know me.
I'm not a consensus leader. I don't determine what is

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right or wrong by looking at the budget of my organization.
And I don't determine whether it is right or wrong
by taking a gallant poll of the majority opinion. And
so because there is something wrong in America, our struggle
must continue for there you habit was doctor King a
brave man, yes he was. Was he a brave African

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American man, yes he was. Was he a brave American itself,
yes he was. And was he a brave defender of
his people?

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yes he was.

Speaker 8 (08:31):
But the question is what about all the rest of you?
Are you brave men and women? Are you a defender
of your people? Are you going to stand up when
it's time? Because the time is now?

Speaker 6 (08:42):
What are you?

Speaker 8 (08:43):
Doctor King wrote in his last book entitled Where Do
We Go From Here? Chaos or Community, where he advocated
for the Black community to move on towards our best
possibilities instead of copying White America's worst habits, especially it's
racism and extreme militarism. King declared, quote, your most fruitful
course is to stand firm, move forward, non violently, accept disappointment,

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and cling to hope. Now, in my professional opinion, we
black and brown people should not have to suffer from
any dilemmas, whether it is racism as seen in the
dismantling of diversity, equity inclusion, or the militarism of sending
into our cities and neighborhoods military troops and ice, paramilitary thugs,
or materialism which the rich weighing there and being their

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boys clubs like to show off. You know, we would
not have any dilemmas if black lives really mattered other
than for the purpose of some commercial trade. Brother Keith
Boykin African American New York Times bestselling author and lawyer
informs us that quote, the sad truth is that black
lives have never been valued in America unquote.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
So we have black lives not mattering.

Speaker 8 (09:53):
When we fulfill these, when we feel the desires of
white Americans, then it's okay. However, if there were all
that black people have to contend with, then we can
bear that pain. But we also have to contend with
the fact, as Keith Boyd Cain writes, that our headaches,
our heartaches are expected, our pain is ignored, and struggle,
our suffering, is dismissed. Our persistently high unemployment rate rarely

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causes concern or policy interventions, and our health and mortality
disparities fail to elicit the same sympathy directed that white
people in crisis. Our crumbling schools don't warrant additional funding
from the government or taxpayers. Our under resourced, most segregated
neighborhoods don't generate investment unless white buyers choose to gentrify them.

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Our gunplayed communities aren't given the proper tools to fight
crime and violence. Our missing children don't elicit national media coverage.
Our overly populated or polluted air and water quality doesn't
compel government leaders to propose comprehensive solutions. The vast food
deserts in our mists don't inspire gross restore chains to

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open locations in our most struggling community. And after all
that our families aren't safe from law enforcement officials sworn
to protect us. It is for this reason that it
is not necessary to say that white lives matter or
all lives matter, because the first, white lives matter is
a given, and the second, all lives matters is a lie.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
Unquote.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Moorgan goes on to state, quote, all lives did not
matter when the founders of the nation deprived indigenous people
of their land, black people of their freedom, and women
of their right to vote. All lives did not matter
when the government and acted laws and policies excluding Chinese
immigrants and incarcerating Japanese Americans, and when our leaders authorized

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the use of weapons of mass destruction on innocent Japanese civilians.
All lives did not matter when the black victims of
the drug crisis were imprisoned, while the white victims of
the Opoi criiopioid crisis were empowered and supported. All lives
did not matter when the nation's leaders ignored the pleas
of black mayors fighting the COVID pandemic or the gun

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epidemic in their cities. All lives did not matter when
cynical politicians exploit the lives of vulnerable trans children and
political for their political benefit. And all lives do not
matter so long as the disproportionate use of state violence
against black bodies remains acceptable and rarely punishable behavior unquote.

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In addition, my friends, I have to add insult to
injury by having to contend that white America's narcissism exhibited
through their white supremacist attitudes and behaviors. Yes, we have
to further contend with America's white racist narcissism and white
America's greed or materialism, as doctor King would say, and
the militaristic violence perpetrated against black and brown people, so

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says psychologist doctor Jerome E. Fox and his book Entitle
Addicted to White the Oppressed in League with the oppressor. Yes,
the type of narcissism where one person literally appoints himself
over all three branches of government and is provided that
they never go to jail. Pass by his Republican controlled
Supreme Court, while anyone else, especially comedians, TV hosts, and

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what have you, in particularly people of color, in spite
of our First Amendment rights, must be ever so cautious
by speaking out and criticizing President Rump, who as historically
viciously and abundantly spewed lies, in threats, and defaming comments
regarding Americans. He does not like why well, because he
is terrified that the news media will at times discuss

(13:30):
his lying and ignorance, along with his enactment of Project
twenty twenty five's closure of certain departments, withdrawing the funding
from social programs, withholding school based kindergarten free meals to
hungry children, and the over three hundred thousand, three hundred
nineteen thousand to be exact, black women who exited the
US labor force through Doge Musk and Trump's directives. Yes,

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the agencies targeted were agencies that employed a disproportionate number
of black women. So again, does black lives matter? Hell no,
my brothers and sisters, this is not America any more.
This is Trump's looney band of unqualified cabinet Lackey's and
as being their boy's club. Along with the beading their
corporate giants, like the news media, who, out of fear

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of being retaliated against by Trump, have turned towards him
not for a political and moral battle, but to surrender
and obey in advance, allowing him to go after TV
night show hosts, go after almost all black leadership throughout
the federal government and the military. Plus, as I've said already,
three hundred thousand black women that had their good federal

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jobs Donald Trump, not good black jobs were taken away.
Gerritt macfadden of The Medium told a look took a
look at Trump's moves to destroy democracy and has come
up with a different and enlightening take on Trump's planful
discriminatory behaviors. He states, quote, For years, I have described
Donald Trump as a threat to democracy, as an aberration,

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as something unprecedented in our nation's story.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
I was wrong.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Trump is not destroying American democracy. He is revealing what
American democracy has always been, a system designed to work
for some at the expense of others. He's not America's
first fascist president. He is America's first president to make
fascism explicit for everyone. And America has been operating as
a fascist state for black people since our force arrival

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on these shores, unquote, and brothers and sisters, you know
that Gerrik mcfatten is right. Trump has proudly exposed to
all Americans what people like me, with all my academic
credentials and worldly experience, could not, and that is to
show us all who democracy was actually built for and
who really profits from its spoils, and who is that

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Whites of all social economic groups, and especially the MAGA
militants who have been rehearsing for the race war that
we find ourselves in, this race war that we did
not start. So, as doctor King has said, Black people,
we must move on towards our best possibilities instead of
copying White America's worst habits, especially it's racism and extreme militarism.

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Stand firm, move forward, non violently, accept disappointment and cling
to hope.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Let's stop there.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Wow wow, wow, I like that, doctor Harper. We are
talking this day, doctor Harper. First topic, Doctor King's message
to all Americans. Then and now you have a question
or two four doctor Harper. Something you want to say.
We invite you to call nine zero one five three

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five nine three four two eight hundred and five zero
three nine three four two eight three three five three
five nine three four to two. If you have a
question or two for doctor Harper, can't call in, email
me the question Bev Johnson at iHeartMedia dot com. Bev
Johnson at iHeartMedia dot com. We'll open up our lines

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just for you next and also when we come back,
doctor Harper will talk about.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Donald Trump's deranged cult followers.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
That's all coming up next with doctor Warren Harper and
me Bev Johnson on the Bev Johnson Show on w
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Speaker 9 (17:29):
Don't go away. The Bev Johnson Show returns after these
messages the.

Speaker 10 (17:34):
Bev Johnson Show.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Over the WORRD to bring you outa day.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Welcome back to do w U d i A.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
We're talking with our behavioral political health consultant, doctor Warren Harper,
talking about he started with Doctor King's message to all
Americans then and now, and we will have another topic.
We'll talk about Donald Trump's deranged co followers. But doctor Harper,
we're going to our phone lines to talk to some
of our listeners.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
W d i A.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
High, mister b how.

Speaker 10 (19:11):
You doing there doing well?

Speaker 11 (19:12):
To doctor Harper.

Speaker 12 (19:14):
Brother buh I asked some questions.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Well, first of all, let me say that I'm saying this.
I was born nineteen fifty in Cleveland City, right, my
mother family moved up to Memphis sixty three. I was
thirteen in nineteen sixty three. There was an answer to
it happening in this country.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Do you remember that, Well, in sixty three, our president
was assassinated.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I can remember.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
No, no, well that's what I remember. Okay, that was
in sixty March on Washington. I know Kennedy was assassinated
in sixty.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
Wait wait, wait, let me let me start from there.
The March on Washington nineteen sixty three. Martin Luther King
had nothing to do with them. It was Malcolm X.
Malcolm X got out in public size what was going

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on in this country, and he put peoples together and
had people going to Washington on buses. I mean, people
were coming from all parts of this country going to Washington.
And when they got to DC, Kennedy came out. Now

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I saw this on television because I was thirteen at
the time, and he came out. Kennedy came out and
was wondering what was going on. All the people's black
people had came to DC and was protesting about what
was going on towards black peoples in this country because

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Malcolm X had stirred.

Speaker 12 (21:04):
Up the blacks in this country.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
And he's sin and got keen, and that's King. Why
was black people so stirred up?

Speaker 5 (21:16):
He said he didn't know, So he put.

Speaker 10 (21:21):
King out on the balcony, and King spoke to black
people's and calmed them down. And in nineteen sixty four,
Kennedy was assassin.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
No, no, no, sir sixty three. I remember I was
in the sixth grade. Mister B.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Let me let me say this to you. I don't
know where you got your infati. Well we're gonna get
it right. I'm gonna tell you. The March on Washington.
The conception started with a Philip Randolph. He made the
call for the march on Washington, but it was Nyard Rusting,
a black man, who spearheaded the organization. Mister B the

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effort for nineteen sixty three. I don't know where you
got that information from, but this is the correct information, right,
doctor harmin a A Philip Randolph in.

Speaker 13 (22:10):
Sixty Let me let me, let me, let me, let
me let me see this.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
A Suli Randolph now was a part of a who
called core when the c O. R.

Speaker 14 (22:19):
E there was.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It wasn't a Philip Randolph. He was not part of that.
It was I'm trying to think, Oh my, he was
on the tip of my time, but I can't think.
But no, no, sir, no sir.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
And it was it was Banyard Rusting, Hood Bayyard Rusting.
We'll put that together people and people tell the story now.
But people didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Mister B. You got some confused history here.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Let me.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
I think I think you said quite a bit because
you're throwing things out there that don't make any sense, right,
it make sense to you.

Speaker 10 (22:52):
Let me let me let me see. Have you ever
read all of your file the field mail?

Speaker 6 (22:58):
I have, Yes, you read that. I don't call it.
I don't call what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
In nineteen sixty five lb J signed the Civil Rights
and I'm not correct about that.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Brother, it's sixty five.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
What's your point because your information is wrong exactly.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
We're wasting too much time with you trying to explain
yourself out of this conception that you have a false reality.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Come on, brother, Yeah, thank you, mister p Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
go back and get it. And it was not Malcolm
X as I said earlier, So we're going to be clear.
A Philip Randolph during that time, he was a labor
leader along with who spoke in my graduation. I think

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the na A c P leader, But I'll get it,
doctor Harper, but no, no, and Banyard.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Ruskin using rusting. He was a gay civil rights leader.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
But he put the march on Washington together, correct, and
with a Philip Randolph and all those folks. Roy Wilkins,
that's what he was over the Indus because he smoke
at my college graduation, doctor Harper.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But yeah, but no, And and in sixty three, mister B.
Kennedy was assassinated. I was in the sixth grade.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I will never forget that because I won't forget that,
doctor Harper, because during that time, we have to we
had to go home for lunch. During that time, you
don't know if they went home for lunch. And so
my dad came, picked my sister up and we were
he was taking us. I will never forget this. He
was taking us the big boy you know, we know
it's shown, you know, big boys. And heard on the
rail that king had been as saded. That was nineteen.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I was in the sixth grade.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
So mister b don't don't spread that information because that's
not correct about malcolmax doct You know he did not,
He did not going back to our phone lines to
talk with you.

Speaker 15 (24:56):
Hi, Marcus, Yes, and greetings, you would have to hap
brother Mark.

Speaker 16 (25:05):
So giving that backdrop and the history of this country,
because to me, when I studied the history of this
country ever since eighteen sixty five, they say they saw
called three black people. They have us running around and
this merry grone, it's a merry garrone.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
They have black people going.

Speaker 17 (25:25):
Around and oh, they give you a little bit, then.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
They take it, but then they give you a little bit, they.

Speaker 16 (25:30):
Take it back. And given where we are right now
with this bipolar range person we have up here in
the country.

Speaker 13 (25:42):
Because you know, my my, my idea, my thought pattern is,
you know, five hundred years is long enough to know,
you know, if there was any human.

Speaker 16 (25:53):
Relations relationship to be worked out with these folks, we
could have done it in five hundred years. So the
question is this, do we continue on this path for
another fifty years to say, you know what, let us
try to get along with these people. Let us try
to build our future here in this community, in this

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country with these people who have demonstrated I'm in tailand
and that hey, we don't want a relationship with you
unless you are at the bottom. Or do we pivot
so that twelve million square miles of land that we
have here that can make us rich because that that

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near that continent is rich.

Speaker 13 (26:40):
And follow the works of Marcus Garfie that said Africa
for the Africans, those at home and those abroad. And
we understand that a lot of black people don't want
to go to Africa, but those who decide to go
to Africa, we can trade.

Speaker 16 (27:01):
We can't do business. We could get somebody diamonds and
somebody not good and being up our own self? What
is your thought, partner and doctor Happer and I'll hung
up and listen.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
I agree totally with those people with with with our
people that want to return to the continent and and
and take our skills over there and learn from them
as well as teach them some some new ways of
being economically self sufficient. I agree with that for those
who are willing to and willing and ready to go there.
But I think we also have to do battle here.
We we can't just give up everything that we've got.

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I recognized what doctor King said with something that I
probably wouldn't have one along with when I was fourteen
and fifteen when these things were occurring, I wouldn't I
would not have had that non violent spirit. But to
a large extent, we can't fight the monster that that's
out there at this particular point. We don't have the
weaponry to do that physically, but we sure can do
that from all kinds of other standpoints.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Look at what happened with Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
You know, enough people got behind and gimme kim I'm
saying that's okay, ye, Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Enough people came together.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Enough people who basically saw how powerful we can be
when we do that, came.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Together and turned this thing around.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Now, don't expect it to be turned around for long
because the psychopath in the White House is going to
continue to come after everybody that speaks against them, you know.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
But still, I think that we can't give up what
we have here.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
But we also cannot expect that we have friends in
high places that are going to support us.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
We have to do for self.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
And the more we do for self, the more we
spend our money in our own communities, the more we
educate our own children, the more we believe in our God,
not some false idol than I think, then we can
start doing things that we need to do to not
only work on our progress here but also over in
the continent as well.

Speaker 18 (28:58):
W d I A Black Conservatives, I am the most
air that mine, green thinker and political welts of earth.

Speaker 14 (29:10):
Let me address Marcus first, little black African. I always
call it into the show demonis in America, Marcus, once
you do history on Africa, Black Africa, how they sold
bigs of their women, men and children to slavery, raided
their communities, the villages, showed them out to the to

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the Arabs, to the European.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
That's not correct, is it? He said? They said billions
and billions. Didn't you be careful, be careful, going right right?

Speaker 14 (29:48):
They sold them into slavery, billions of You know, y'all
watched the movie Route the Come to Kente. How they
y'all claim that the European ran down, tucked them down
in the jungle, and no European came and ran through,
No jungle. They stopped at the sure and.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Remember but that concerned That was Ax Haley's story. That
was his family story.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah now, but that was his family's story.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
Also.

Speaker 14 (30:17):
Also, hey, you know here, Hey, he got sous for pleasurizing.
He got thoughs I understand.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
That, understand that, understand that.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
But you know, forty percent of the Africans that were
that came over here illegally were basically the product of
being sold by their own sixty percent were basically kidnapped
and forced to come. So don't don't all together that
all of it, that all the Africans turned on each
other and and sold each other in their brothers and sisters.

Speaker 14 (30:48):
Here here's the deal. Okay, Uh, the black ath and
came that. The black man exhied, you're breaking up.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Hello, you're breaking up Black conservatives. Call us back. We
want to hear what you have to say. Your phone
went out, Call me back, Call me back. W d
I a hike caller?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Hey bell? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm doing fine?

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Just wanna know, Yeah, this is me.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
I promise. It's gonna be hard to come behind. Air
head mind.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Right, I like that?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Just want to know, well, you know what, I just
want to know how you can people like Denver and
Clyde Hm just grace and blessed steps every move that
Trump may when they can't see what is happening in

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front of them. Sure, pride and devil may have a
little money, so they're not gonna fill the picture of
other people fathers. They're not even looking at it. So
that to me, it means they have no sympathy or
empathy or as like that. I'm glad I don't have now,
but I want to know why doctor can't have a

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couple of days. You know, we need it, We need
we need this not a drilled into our minds. Because
I'm gonna be hones with you, Bill. When I stand
back and look at uh things that a lot of
this stuff is our fault. Uh we look at the
trash on the street, it's our fault facing in our neighborhood.
We ride down the street and we throw trash out.

(32:29):
We are on the phone in the fast lane doing
for it. When uh we just bring in the rule
that we can come across. But I called in to
say that a lot of these problems here in the
city that we are facing his self initiative of self

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initiative problems along with the trash to blake and I
don't know why they are should be some type of
special crew that every males and they every male's cabinet
to keep the city beautiful. It used to be beautiful
long time ago. But I'm starting at ram because I
lost my love trying about there.

Speaker 19 (33:12):
Okay, okay, your heart come out of our head mine.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
The throw you off a little bit.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
But uh, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm gonna have friends
like them and Clyde. They just don't see the big picture.
I don't know what they need and for the seven
don't I can't even call them night. So I will
give him a number to just like they gave what's
the one uh years some people still have a number.
It's called a jail number. And y'all have a good day.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You just want to know de go on dot top.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
You know, we we don't understand, We really don't understand
the damage that that poverty does. We don't understand that
will what the damage that oppression does to a man
or a woman's thinking, or the thinking of a child.
We don't understand that because we we we continue to
go through life as as if we're gonna make things
better based on the little that we have because that's

(34:04):
what our mothers and fathers had to do.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Well. The bottom line is this, we have a lot
of terrible.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Terrible people in our community, and they have copied a
lot of terrible, terrible behavior from the white community because
we didn't come off the boat, you know, doing rape, murder,
pillage and shooting each other, what have you. We've copied,
as doctor King said, we have. We have to stop
thinking about copying their militarism, their other behaviors that were
basically dysfunctional for them. But we have we've basically taken

(34:33):
those behaviors in. But back to poverty. The more the
more impoverished we are in terms of large numbers of people,
the less opportunity we have to bring ourselves up to
a higher level of living. And once you put people
into into ghettos and you basically put them on put
them on food stamps not and people say, well, you
didn't have to go on food stamp, No, you have.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
You had to survive. So once you put people on
food stamp.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Now I come out of Chicago where we had thirty
blocks of projects, thirty blocks of pri ten stories high.

Speaker 15 (35:01):
You don't.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
You don't.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
You don't grow, You don't grow, you don't mature, you don't,
you don't become humanistic by being stacked on top of
each other like rats. And that's what they did in Chicago,
but that's what they've done throughout this whole country. And
the fact that once we stepped out of slavery, we
stepped back into Jim Crow must be carrying out of
Jim Crow. And we stepped into a history of a
country that was starting to hang more and more of

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us because we had the freedom. We stepped out of that,
and then we had the red summers and the red
winters and what have you. Then we had the civil
rights movement, you know, which took a whole lot of
time to actually move that white racism out of our way.
So believe me, when I go down the streets and
I see paper and all that, and I see some
of the terrible things that we're doing, you know, I

(35:44):
feel bad for us because we have no business doing
that to each other.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
But believe me, and you people don't want to believe this.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
When young men and young women have basically taken the
road towards gaining popularity and money behind criminal behavior. It
didn't be I'm from their forefathers, didn't come from their
from their grandmothers, didn't come from their great grandmothers. It
came from watching how other people, other ethnic groups got
their power. And for some reason we think that that's
the way to go, and it's not the way to go.

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So going back to our phone lines to talk with
you high caller.

Speaker 12 (36:19):
Hello, Yes you're on the air.

Speaker 17 (36:22):
Yes, I just want to make a correction. Y'all said
that A. Randall wasn't in the march on Washington. You're
all a mistake with the hear world when that happened. Also,
Laura Wilkins and before y'all decided to count some people out.
That's what they're saying.

Speaker 15 (36:38):
Look it up.

Speaker 17 (36:38):
You got too much technology and find you to find
out that information.

Speaker 15 (36:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Hey, I'm sorry, sir, but he's wrong.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
He's wrong.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
He's wrong again. He told us to look up the information. Brother,
look up a Philip Randolph.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
It's all you have to do.

Speaker 20 (36:55):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Back in the back there they had those three organizations
they had called N DOUBLE A, C, P, S, C
l C. They all came yet, but A Philip Ratt. Brother,
that that's incorrect.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Mm hmm, that's it. That's incorrect. We gave you the fact.
Now you look up a Philip Randolph.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
True, you looked up w.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
D I a high caller. I'm doing fine, shirdy.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Mac all right this morning?

Speaker 21 (37:27):
How you doing, doctor Hopper?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'm doing fine, brother, just ignorance this morning?

Speaker 8 (37:31):
Yeah, what I don't I don't get it today Church
on there and I'm gonna be breathed, don't have to.

Speaker 21 (37:39):
I mean I heard some of the brothers and sisters
own stand show this morning, Doctor Hoppy.

Speaker 22 (37:44):
They're talking about how good these black folks were talking
about how good they coming in then houses from mind
coll doctor Hopper, how come they can't see what's coming?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
They don't choose to see, that's all. They don't choose
to see.

Speaker 21 (37:58):
Why they can't see what's coming?

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Doctor?

Speaker 21 (38:00):
This man is not part Black America? So how is
Black America gonna glow?

Speaker 15 (38:06):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
The grocers ain't that bad?

Speaker 21 (38:09):
I got three hand still buying houses?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
So what.

Speaker 16 (38:13):
This man a.

Speaker 21 (38:14):
Stript our black history? Doctor Hopper?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
This man got distraction ready for us as a people.

Speaker 21 (38:21):
Doctor Harper, give me a quick idea what this city
gonna be like in two three weeks from now, when
the God get here.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Just give me just a guess.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
Well, you know, last last time I was on the air,
you know, I mentioned that I hadn't heard very much
about the planning and what have you.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
And brother what was the brother's name?

Speaker 8 (38:41):
I forget that they caught up last week and it
was educating us about about the the gonna be. It
wasn't league anyway. Uh, Brother, My thinking is, and I
like to hear from today because I don't know. I'm
not researching anymore since that particular time. All I can

(39:02):
know again is that if the National Guard comes here,
and Brother Brenard says, it's gonna be more coordinated than that,
with other people coming in as well, it's gonna be
basically everybody's gonna be with everybody.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
People are gonna be stopped.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
And questioned, and some will be arrested because they don't
have the proper things that they need to have in
terms of driving whenever you Some will be picked up,
stopped and picked up because they have not gone to
court when they were supposed to go to court. They're
gonna have some that people are gonna be stopped that
have a weapon that they shouldn't have. But it's not
gonna be the majority of people. And we're gonna feel
as if we're being picked on at this point, that

(39:36):
we're being singled out, and we are being singled out
because the person in the White House basically wants to
go after every brown town and city because he knows
that that's where power is. He knows that that's black power.
If we can get our minds straight towards dealing with them, going.

Speaker 23 (39:52):
Brother, that's how he's planning on breaking the down. You
got on the radio and come out, it's not so
bad with the price that people got to wake up.
Doctor Hopper, he visited, is gonna shake down this city.
He's not going to any white cities.

Speaker 15 (40:10):
And it's a reason for that.

Speaker 21 (40:12):
Memphis is a predominant black city.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
And I think we again it pigs that he's sent.

Speaker 21 (40:17):
In all the agencies in there.

Speaker 23 (40:19):
He ain't stopping these other occasion people, doctor Hopper, He's
stopping black folks exactly.

Speaker 21 (40:24):
And the more he arrested to make his figures look good,
Oh look what we did in Memphis. They gonna load
up and arrest as many black folk as they can
just on technicalities.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Doctor Hopper.

Speaker 8 (40:36):
Any any way that they can, any way that they
can do the arrest, they're gonna do it. Plus Plus
we have to be careful because see, if they can't,
if they can't instigate a fight, they're gonna probably hurt
one of their own people and claim it was somebody
who's a black person that did something so that they
can have further reason for the reason to clamp down
on this city.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
And you believe me, I don't put it past them
to shoot some of their own.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
People and then basically claim that black people had some
kind of militant organization that was forming.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
We're going after the Ice people. It was just insane.

Speaker 21 (41:08):
Trust me, doctor how you just figured out his plan?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
They stayed so much stuff a bell.

Speaker 21 (41:15):
If you remember doctor, If you remember.

Speaker 15 (41:19):
When to hear Doctor King got killed.

Speaker 21 (41:21):
Sixty eight right there, right.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Down town.

Speaker 23 (41:30):
Hearing.

Speaker 24 (41:31):
Yeah, I was young, but I remember hearing this in
my neighborhood.

Speaker 23 (41:35):
And Castille in Southmembers the album in here paying people
to start to ride, start shooting, start fighting.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
I believe it, and that's.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
How to do. So.

Speaker 15 (41:48):
I just want to my people to wake up.

Speaker 11 (41:50):
I'm praying.

Speaker 21 (41:51):
You know, it's gonna be a lot of anxiety going up,
really high level.

Speaker 23 (41:56):
A lot of high blood pressure going up because they
don't know what these people are going to do.

Speaker 21 (42:00):
So that's happened.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Like I said, you just keep on bringing it.

Speaker 21 (42:03):
William Bill, thankful.

Speaker 24 (42:04):
Let me talk you and we're gonna pray and hope
it ain't turn out well y'all have.

Speaker 11 (42:08):
A good with you too.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Before I go to our next phone line, and now
we say, this is doct harp again for our brother
Ron who called up again, and.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Let me be clear the facts.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
A Philip Randolph he called for a march on Washington
early in the nineteen forties. Okay, he called for the
march on Washington and in early nineteen forties, but people
don't know they are rusking. He put the nineteen sixty

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three March on Washington together.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
They put it together for jobs and freedom. So brother, yeah,
a Philip right.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
He started early in the four but nobody was really
listening until nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
I hear you, So I wanted to be clear on that.
He telling us, brother, look up your look look up
your history. Do we need we need to get? And
one thing I want to say.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
When I was in tenth grade, doctor Harper, and I
learned about We had a class called back then, it
was called Negro history. Mister Ford he was my teacher
and and I remember the first day he said, what's
a Negro? And I was getting ready to speak. He said,
put your hand down. That's the white folk. He was

(43:28):
a bad brother.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
So so brother Bron.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
We well, we don't want to spread bad history, you know,
So you look that up yourself.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Okay, I'm going back to our phone lines. W D
I a HI caller.

Speaker 25 (43:42):
Hey, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 21 (43:44):
How are you.

Speaker 26 (43:46):
I'm great. Apparently I need to buy me a lottery
tickets because I.

Speaker 15 (43:49):
Got in today.

Speaker 26 (43:50):
I just didn't I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 26 (43:55):
Yes, I'm going back a lot of tickets to day.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Okay, good morning, the morning.

Speaker 26 (44:00):
I love it when doctor Harper comes in. And I'm
not gonna gona say, but they've got by two things
on the National Guard coming in. If people I don't know,
I'm not saying maybe I have my head in too
many different things, too many different things of researching. But
the National Guard, it's possibility that they're coming in at
the at the advice of Jim Vina, the CEO of

(44:25):
Union Pacific Railroads. He met with President Trump. Trump asked him, uh,
and this was Fox News, ask him what cities did
he did he needs to go to. It was Meshis
because of the break ins of the carts or the
beans those cars.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Trust that.

Speaker 26 (44:47):
See, he's not doing this to protect anybody. If anybody
would caught with the grain of common sense, he is
not looking out for But I'm not saying they don't.
They might, they do, might need to be here, but
they're here with a lot of deal making. They're here
with a lot of Republican deal making. I'm gonna say
that and people, I hope that, and I know something.

(45:11):
It's gonna come on and it's like, I don't know where.

Speaker 25 (45:13):
These people got there.

Speaker 26 (45:14):
They gave a fag or something that Trump didn't say
this to Trump. I don't know what they're looking at.
But my thing, and I'm just suggesting for everybody. No
one has to do it and say the one to
do it. I'm doing it for my family and myself.
Make sure that your passport is current. You know, if
you have one, make sure that your passport is current.
Start if you want to start stocking, you should have

(45:36):
already been stocking up on different things, and they can
decide what those things are. And have you a to
go back ready and you check it and you add
to it periodically.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
And you also need to have a generator too.

Speaker 26 (45:52):
Yes, just yeah, that's it. Yeah, see that's doctor Harpert.
I it's so much in my head, it's ooving out.
But I forget stuff.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
And you need to have a weapon or some weapons too.

Speaker 26 (46:03):
Oh I've got I have got those locked and loaded.
And I'm yet going to buy with women. I'm just
gonna say with I don't know women, they afraid of
the weapon. Don't be afraid of the weapons. You're not
sure you can shoot that? Well, get you a shotgun
if you can call that you it's the kickback now
going to be that bag or twenty two rifles. Get

(46:23):
you something that you can shoot without being perfect with target.
That shotgun will be doing, though, tell you beady.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
And keep in mind everything that we've meant, everything that
we've mentioned is basically for our own self protection. Nobody's
talking about let's let's just prepare for a race. Well no, no,
we recognize that there's already a war against us, and
we have to be prepared to defend ourselves.

Speaker 26 (46:47):
And the right that I'm looking at it because the
ones that's not preparing now, when something goes down, they're
gonna come in and try to take yours true. All right, yeah,
all right, I'm you all.

Speaker 25 (47:03):
I just love these sessions.

Speaker 26 (47:04):
Thank you all. You have a wonderful day.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Bye bye, bye bye you two. Hold on, callers, we
are going to get to you, I promise. And also
doctor Harper will be talking his next topic. He's going
to discuss Donald Trump's derange cult followers. But hold on, y'all,
take a break as we go to the other side
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We're rocking and rolling on this Thursday, September twenty fifth,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Enjoy this fabulous day to day.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
We are talking with our behavioral political health consultant, doctor
Warren Harper. Our first topic today, we talked about Doctor
King's message to all Americans in and now we'll also
talk about Donald Trump's deranged cult followers. So stick for
stay for that one more minute, callers, We will definitely

(49:24):
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(49:53):
about entertainment, we have the best entertainment around at the
Rocking Chier.

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Yeah.

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He's bad boy.

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are celebrating her birthday, very special guests at the Rocking Chair.
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Speaker 3 (51:19):
We're going back to our phone lines. Thank you all
so very much for waiting.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Hi, Meredith, I'm doing fabulous, sister, how are you fantastic?

Speaker 25 (51:32):
And Doctor Harper is always a pleasure to be on
the phone with you. So, my my fear for Memphis
is this, Trump's gonna need to claim victory in mythis
with the truths being there. So what do you think
is gonna take for him to be able to claim victory.
My theory is that he's gonna have to show arrest.

(51:52):
It doesn't matter if it's a criminal arrest. It can
be for a driver license ticket, no insurance. I mean,
he's gonna have to show the numbers that were arrested,
three people in niph We really were really cleaned up
crime and it's just the show just to say again
his victory. So what is your thought is gonna have
to happen if someone gonna have to be shot killed,
you know national news. So that's one one question to you.

(52:15):
My next thought is any black sambo who can't see
Trump's agenda, It's scary to me. They are truly the
enemy within. I mean they are to me, they are
worse than any racist black white person out there because
you always can't see him coming. When you think you
have an ally somebody house you can knock go on

(52:35):
for refugees, he got the other person in the room
waiting on you to come in. I mean, that's how
these black people who can't see what Trump is doing
sound to me. And again that that's that's terribly scary
to me. But that's my thought, doctor Harper. I will
appreciate you get eleborating on that.

Speaker 12 (52:50):
Thanks.

Speaker 8 (52:51):
Thanks, I think Meredith, you're exactly right. The whole, the
whole thing with with with Donald Trump is numbers, numbers.
And keep in mind, he's the one that's gonna tell
you the numbers. See, he gets the head of the
narrative by basically creating the narrative. He'll say that that
he'll have he'll have his his news stations giving you
shots of Bill Street and everyone's walking around very peacefully

(53:13):
and everything seems calm. They may interview someone who's out
in Colliersville and what have you, and they'll tell you
that they came downtown Memphis and that it was such
a lovely place, it was so quiet and what have you.
You know, the thing is, it's all theatrics. It's all
theatrics because they're not going to stop anything. Crime does
not stop and start because Donald Trump waves a wand

(53:35):
it's going to stop when when people put the resources
into this city which is going to deal with the
crime problem, the lack of education problem, the lack of
the lack of a job problem, and jobs training.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
So I agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
It's going to be how many people that they can
stop and arrest, because that's what's going to go out
that they arrested thousands of Memphians or and that the
many of them had criminal records and they took so
many people off the street. That's what it is, off
the street. As if all you have to do is
take people off the street and crime goes away. As

(54:11):
I said before last time, you'll have a pause in crime,
that's all, and it's going to return because the criminals
are smarter than Trump.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Back to our phone lines, Okay, black Conservative, I you
got back.

Speaker 14 (54:27):
Thank you Bath for allowing me to call back in.
You know, I've been following the President Trump from day
one since he came down escalated there at Trump Tower
and Trump said something that I think through Democrats for

(54:49):
a loop, and they've been confused ever since. It said,
Democrats every election want to play the race card against
the publicans against blacks. They want to use the race car.
And Trump said it ain't gonna work this time. Them
playing the race card ain't gonna work this time, and
it didn't work. Democrats couldn't play the race card, so

(55:09):
they go on to something else. Trump Rush a collusion
that didn't work, and they tried to impeach them.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
That didn't work.

Speaker 14 (55:16):
Then they tried with Stony Daniel whoever the lady was,
with Steve Cortin. That didn't work. Then they tried to sniper,
tried to take them out the hand of God protect
them from that. That definitely didn't work. Now they we're
gonna come out. They'll come up with something that's later
on before twin or. They tried to come up with
the Epstein filed and then that didn't work. They didn't

(55:39):
go nowhere, and now they're probably gonna try something there.
You said something about people losing their job. Let's be honest. Uh,
the THEDEI program, those were programmed a jobs that were

(56:00):
pretty much discrimination for illegal the Supreme Court. Wait mine
the Supreme Court. Trump no won twenty six consecutive victories
with the Supreme Court on that because the Biden administration
brought in those diverse equity including jobs and virtually every

(56:22):
agency in the federal government. Trump removed those discrimination jobs
because there was a basic because one of the Biden
administrations said that the air traffic control was too white.
It's too white, so they had to go and put
a little color in it. And that's why all this
stuff starts. But I'm not really hung up on that,

(56:46):
as I am with the fact that something has to
be done about crime and methis. And I mean, I
don't know what exactly they're going to do when they
get here. But I have followed Trump from start to finish,
Brother Harper, there ain't a share of evidence to the
contrary that he's a racist or a dictator, or a fascist,

(57:08):
or he alert and in the follow error this man
like a fine tooth. Where are you coming up with
all this information about Trump being a racist, a dictator
and a fact.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Well, listen, you know, for the last nine months, if
not longer, I've given out the definition of a fascist.
And I don't know where where your ear has been,
because I've laid out every.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Single behavior, give.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
Dictatorship, dictatorship, taking over, taking over the government, all aspects
of the government, taking over the newspapers, basically threatening people, basically,
basically retaliating against anyone that speaks against you to the
point whereas you where your heart, they're going to close
you down altogether.

Speaker 14 (57:50):
Gone, brother, ABC, I think of sixty minutes. They had
to pay President Trump sixty million dollars and twenty seven
million and advertising fee allowed him for advertising free twenty
seven sixty million because of all the kind of exclamatory
and stuff they brought against President Trump. Trump to be

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allowed to do anything he wanted to do.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no. They didn't have to pay. See, they were cowards.
They were cowards, and they basically said, they basically said,
we are not going to to to to to provoke
the bull because they knew that he was going to
come after them and take away their license if that
would have happened. Right, here's what mindkee, But keep in

(58:36):
mind you mentioned that that that playing the race card
coming in coming some of One of the first things
he did was play the race card to get rid
of the deer. The second thing he did, the fact
that he got rid of three hundred and nineteen thousand
black people black people. And then the fact that the
fact that that that that that that person's like yourself.
The person's like yourself are still asking what is about

(58:59):
to see all about.

Speaker 14 (59:00):
What bro But but those d e I programs was illegal,
pro illegal and wrong.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Black conservative is at Biden, President Biden, by that man,
They had those jobs before Biden became president.

Speaker 14 (59:19):
President President, president president.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Working when when President Obama was there.

Speaker 14 (59:28):
Let me explain to you, because I have an aer
diamine man of much book learning. Biden brought in those
racial equity jobs because he thought that the air traffic
control was too white. They brought in the d e
I program. Deverse equity inclusion. It's nothing, but it's worse

(59:50):
if it's no different than affirmative action, which was reversed
discrimination against white The e I is discrimination to a
and uh none Black individuals mhm. Because they getting jobs,
because they're getting jobs based on like doctor King saying,

(01:00:11):
they're getting jobs based on the color of their skin
and not the content of their character, they're not qualified.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
And that's not true. That's not true.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
That's not true that you should be high. You should
be high based on your qualification though right.

Speaker 8 (01:00:25):
The thing is that oftentimes African American people and other
ethnic groups other than white ethnic groups were the only
ones that were considered for jobs like air traffic controllers.
That's the that was the discrimination, and it's always been
that way, brother, the fact that you would come on
the radio would even even act as if actors, if
that the I was only designed to bring in black folks,

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when de I was helping more white women than anyone else.

Speaker 14 (01:00:50):
Right, well, love, but you're making my point, making my point,
we don't need the e I with opportunity employed now
in the light of advanced technology, we don't need such
programs as DEI or AEIL any other eye. Because when
I came out of college, I had I went for interviews.

(01:01:13):
I had to apply for that job in computer science
based on my experience and my education.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
And don't you know that people who are who were
hired as air traffic controllers, who were who were Latin
Americans or African Americans, don't you recognize that they had
to be competent as well? Or are you denying the
fact that they're competent behind the fact that you're trying
to steal a pole. What this psychopath is saying and what.

Speaker 14 (01:01:38):
Happened and what happened when Biden invaded the air traffic
control said one of his administrator. City was too white,
and then they tried to make it exclude exclusive. What
happened planes stars all stop?

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
See yeah, you you bought into all into into all
the kind of schemes and conspiracy theories.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
That's what's wrong with the cult. That cult think everything
that they teach you or tell you about.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
America is what you want to believe, what you want
to do, you want to see, you want to vomit
it back in our face.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
We can't have that, brother. You need to get some
education too, and some therapy.

Speaker 15 (01:02:12):
W D I a high caller, glad afternoon. How both
of you to take doing well?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Carling, you.

Speaker 15 (01:02:22):
Bury me for a few minutes. First of all, doctor
Harper and Bell, I want to apologize to both of you.
Why my apology is I have not invented a time
machine therefore your ten minutes cannot come back after dealing
with black conservative I mean, if I had one, I
will get your ten minutes of life back. It's a

(01:02:44):
blessed shame. But before I go on about the five
black men to call WD, I a who are in
love with God Trump's senior. To quote Miro Wolf, it's
hard to put common sense in a fool's brain for
those fire individuals. And based on those five individuals, and

(01:03:08):
you know who you are, you fired individual. One of
your names started with a J. A man saw a
TV show named Salas from the Big Valley and I
hate to do this as Sallas from the Big Valley.
He had more class than the fiber you do by far.
And that's a blessed shame. And to show you how

(01:03:30):
Trump range syndrome is working with these people, there's a
station in Memphis AM start with a six five o'clock
in the morning to ten o'clock at night. Those eleven
hosts are probably the most dangerous eleven white individual they
ever get on the airwaves. And those information they are

(01:03:52):
spelling out to people is killing this country. Do you
realize they are saying that all the shoeing that taking place,
it's being done by the Democrats. But they share they
failed to mentioned before people that were shot two of
them that would killed in Minnesota. They don't talk about that.
They don't talk about the man that killed those children

(01:04:16):
in Minnesota. But everything else a Democrat. I'm an independent
sometimes and I lean toward Democrat. You're talking about me,
They're talking about any Democrats are out to kill people.
That's not true. That's a blessed lie. And for you,
five individuals, they call in and say that I'm calling

(01:04:37):
you out right now on the radio station. You are
a liar. Now, the deal with down Trumps signing, as
you said, doctor Harper, he liked to use numbers. You
know how you deal with somebody who like to use numbers,
You throw numbers back at him, and when he lies,
you have to point this out. Maybe just me, maybe talking.
When I went to school, I studied world history. I

(01:04:57):
have a hard time understanding when Trump said that he
had in the Seven Wars and for the country that
he mentioned in the war.

Speaker 24 (01:05:05):
That he has.

Speaker 15 (01:05:08):
Are four thousand miles from each other. Now, I don't know.
I don't know in wars that have country fighting each other,
they are four thousand miles from each other? Do you, baire?
Do you thought the hump?

Speaker 16 (01:05:21):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Maybe on the content of Africa, but I don't. Other
than that, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:05:26):
Okay, So how the world do you end wars? Don
Trumps singor had those countries that that far apart from
each other? I thought people have wars the geninists do
each other. But then what do I know? Maybe I
study history, and my history teachers not tell me where
I was studying because I knew what she was talking about.
My God. And now, last, but not least, Okay, you

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remember when Don Trumps singer said that the people were
taking African American jobs, they're taking your jobs. Well, unemployment
for black people right now it is over ten percent,
so Bell and Duc Parker, had any black individual told
you they can't wait to go work in the farms,

(01:06:11):
to go work at the golf course, to go work
at these houses and be make this men? Have any
of them told you that we're in your fans or
people you rent ran into and said, hey, Leroy told
me you can't wait to get the California start picking
no oranges over there. Have you heard that? Then? Why
it is unemployment over ten percent? If things are going

(01:06:32):
so well? And why DoD Trump singor have you got
went on the campaign trail? Have your rallies about this
bit beautiful bill that you've bragged about. You hadn't done nothing,
you hadn't even bragged about it, and that's the only
thing you passed and hurting people. But yet we got
black folks who think dond Trump's singor the best thing
they ever watched face this earth. Lord, please help us

(01:06:53):
from ourselves. And when the people come here from the military,
people behavior, but they trying to start something, and they
even making memphics. The left his start in the United
States of America. I rather have methics be a city
that had the toughest curfew law in the world, then
to have a natural guard in the city of Memphis.
Bill and Dalt Harper, thank you for allowing me to talk.

(01:07:15):
And both of you have a wonderful day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
You two call wd Ia high caller.

Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
Good after the Queen of Jackson's stay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Good afternoon, mo Lee.

Speaker 12 (01:07:27):
And as always it's a very privileged to being a
company of doctor Harper.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Good morning, brother, good bring.

Speaker 12 (01:07:34):
I just want to start out with my Jim Jordan's prayer. Lord,
please give me the confidence of a mediocre white man.
A man it took Hitler one month, two days, eight hours,
and forty minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic. In three weeks,

(01:07:58):
the Nazis took over Germany. Now I've got some colleagues
and friendsmen walking around and they're saying, well, you know
we have in this country checks and balances. Irrespective of
what goes on and what happens, we have checks and balances.
So let's inhale checks and balances. That's exhale because we've

(01:08:22):
got checks and balances. But however, we are like the
people who are on the Titanic. You see, we say
our ship can't sink. See, we have the best ship,
we have the strongest ship, and we have the biggest ship.
Our ship can't sink. But if you are a student

(01:08:45):
of history, you know that there is no such thing
as a ship that can't sink. So, folks, fascism can
happen you think elsewhere. But I hear you're in for
a big surprise because we are going to miss democracy

(01:09:10):
now that he is gone, and then you both continue
to survive.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Thank you, Thank you, Moley.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
W D.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
I a hy caller. Roh Ray you're on the air.

Speaker 15 (01:09:27):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
How you doing doing well?

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Thank you for waiting?

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
All right?

Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
How are you doing Bryan brother?

Speaker 27 (01:09:36):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:09:36):
Then I thought I was gonna have to go this
psychological therapist. And boy I heard from the first calling.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Hey Ray and me too.

Speaker 19 (01:09:52):
I thought I'd allowed to check in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I know that's right.

Speaker 19 (01:09:56):
Well, let me say this there and mister Hopper the topic.
Do you remember the series that are proud ass and
gave at the Church of Bread price years ago?

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
I don't think so.

Speaker 19 (01:10:08):
No, No, okay, he did a series.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Of blacks is.

Speaker 19 (01:10:14):
Don't be almost outsoleted. They didn't get their financial house
and orders. And I heard you talking and mentioned finances
early on in the show, Doctor Hopper. H we're trying
to scrolling in society, doctor Hopper, because we still attached
to the umbilical cord of those clans and everybody talking

(01:10:37):
about Donald Trump, this and Doc. In my view, the
Klan has placed themselves in position in political power. I
no longer I ain't afraid of the ones in the sheep.
It's those people who can like policies, and that's what's
gonna hurt black folks in the future because we do
not have our economic housing order here. Spent more about

(01:11:01):
our time speaking on politics, but not of financial and security.
They talk about the National Gods. No, I don't want
the National Guard there. But I don't hear nowhere on
No Black Show where they're saying, well, okay, we need
to secure our neighborhood. I don't hear that conversation. You
know what I'm saying, Doctper, We still don't we still

(01:11:26):
dependent on these people. We do not take action for
our own resources and our own living. We don't right
there in Missus Tennessee. And I used to have a
house in South Haven. When I left south Haven, Uh,
there was three grocery stores that his families own, no
grocery store that they shot. Right, I couldn't think of

(01:11:49):
not one black grocery store in this there one I
don't know. And we need every game, Uh, Doc Coper,
some us over eat and you don't even have a
grocery store. I remember when there was no explanas in
methods now let them come to Memphis and South Haven

(01:12:10):
another place they got their own grocery stores, doctor Hobbort.
And we're sitting around here arving on the on the
radio every day about this or that were in bashhit
cause we don't take out their and and like I say,
you don't fear the conversation about well, we are to
secure our own neighborhoods, to pro secure the armed forces,

(01:12:34):
to get here the National Guard. Fact subjects don't even
come up in our mouths, right, But we don't want
some people over in the neighborhoods doctor Opper and Bed.
They want the National Guard to come in. Of course,
ain't nobody else helping them. They ain't wanting to come in,
you know, they because ain't nobody else over there helping.

(01:12:56):
The churches over there, you know they've been there and
they ain't do want nothing to collect the money, you know,
I mean, come on, people, we do not do enough
for ourselves. I'm gonna say this and go okay. Amos Wilson.
Amos Wilson said in his book it's about eight hundred
and fifty days lost. I know, oh yeah, but it's

(01:13:20):
a good reason, he said. He said that politics came
out of economics. Economics didn't come out of politics, got
to Popper, and we have placed too much value in
politics and we're not getting a good return. I'll see

(01:13:41):
the see up there in Washington.

Speaker 15 (01:13:43):
Don't do nothing but collect money for dinners and all that.

Speaker 19 (01:13:47):
They have no powers, Jack McCarthy and she can talk
to her and you know, but she has no power.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Have a good day, you two rate thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Let me let me just say yes one one quick thing.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
You know, there are there are local organizations here in
Memphis that are trying their best to do exactly what
Ray is talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
You know, I know Heal the Hood.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 8 (01:14:11):
The fact is we have to support Heal the Hood
and a bunch of or other organizations out every every
community in Memphis in order for us to have a
foothold on trying to turn this situation around. But other
than that, brother, you're exactly right. We were We're not
spending our money where we need to spend it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
We're not.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
We're not having enough enough of our own people getting
out there and and trying to stop some of the
crime and stop some of the viciousness that's going on
out there.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
So we have a lot to do in terms of
our own homework.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
We are taking a break. Hold on callers.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Please, if you can't hold on, I get it, because
I want doctor Carper to get to his next topic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
We'll take a break. Come back with you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Doctor Harper will get to his next topic, which is
Donald Trump's derange cult followers coming up next next right
here on w d i A.

Speaker 9 (01:15:06):
Got something to say?

Speaker 15 (01:15:08):
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listening to the Bev Johnson Show.

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Here's Bev Johnson and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
We're back on WDIA.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Now, doctor Harper, let's discuss Trump's culp and his mind
control the followers.

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
Please hold on, callers, I want you to listen. We'll
get to you, doctor Harper. Trump has a large cult now.
A cult is defined as a group of group characterized
by excessive devotion to a person, idea, or belief, often
involving a charismatic leader, and harmful practices. A cult demands
total loyalty, devotion, and control over one's life. It dictates

(01:16:35):
that there be total isolation from new ideas or ideas
that go against the cult's teachings, belief systems, and its leader.

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
It works through.

Speaker 8 (01:16:42):
Manipulation and mind control of its cult followers, and there
is a high potential for harming its own people. For example,
Jim Jones People's Temple where at least nine hundred and
nine members, of which two hundred were children and six
hundred of the nine hundred were black, who died by
mass murdered suicide in Jonestown, Guyana, when he instructed his

(01:17:03):
cult followers to commit an act of revolutionary suicide by
drinking punch mixed with cyanide poison, and they did it.
Trump's cope wants to destroy black and Brown Americans, Jews,
the poor, the sick and disabled, the LGBTQ plus community,
the unhoused veterans, immigrants of color, and women in general.

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He wants to imprison, deport, gun us down, poison us
with polluted air quality, and further impoverish us to the
point where we become increasingly enraged at those who are
closest to us geographically, which leads to our disappointment, our frustration,
our anger, and then rage being directed at each other
through daily shootouts and murdering of our own young brothers

(01:17:44):
and sisters. So let's briefly think of what doctor Martin
Luther King, Junior would say about those of us who
are not participating in protesting Trump's destructive policies. What would
doctor Martin Luther King say about Trump's maga cult that
believes that he is a god. And what would doctor
King say about the destruction of our republic, our democracy.

(01:18:06):
I believe he would say it is evil because it
is racist, it's evil because it's militaristic, and it's evil
because it's materialistic. I believe that doctor King would say
that Trump is intentionally making life insufferable for all of us,
the immigrants, the LGBTQ plus community, poor whites, liberal colleges
and universities, liberal and truth telling professors, and high school

(01:18:29):
history teachers who teach about America's original sin of some
slavement and the horrific oppression of black and brown people. Yes,
Trump and his Maga cult wants us freedom seeking people
to turn on one another and continue to destroy ourselves
through gun violence and drugs, and self hatred and all
sorts of vicious criminal behaviors. These white make America hate

(01:18:49):
again followers want to go full blown Nazi on black
and brown people, where you only have the National Guard.
Not only have the National Guard, but you will also
have white nationalists, paramilitary terroristic groups to assist law enforcement
and the military in further dismantling our rights the constitution,
taking over our cities and communities, and to formally institute

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apartheid on us by restricting our movement, having to have
special papers and passes to be outside after certain hours,
being arrested for not working, and imprisoning massive amounts of
black men so that their fears of being replaced by
blacks and other males of color will not materialize in
more than black and brown babies being born and Whites

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being reduced to minority groups themselves. Trump and his Make
America Hate Again cult clan want to take as many
of us as possible to some god forsaken place like
Alligatory Alcatraz to die for speaking out against its fascist government.
This fascist president and its make America Hate Again cult zombies.
For example, just look at what this fascist sex offender

(01:19:54):
and convicted felon president has done.

Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
Moments after being sworn in. He's terminated the verse.

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
S equity inclusion programs, which were the affirmative action programs.
They were put in place when democracy was a way
of life here, and from the start going after programs
that benefit us. He passed legislation to strip health care
of ten million people, cut food stamp benefits for forty
million Americans and half of them being children. Slashed eight

(01:20:20):
billion from life saving foreign aid programs, defunded public radio
and television stations nationwide, took control of Washington, d C.
And plans to take over all democratic from major cities
with black populations and to oppress liberal, fair minded, civil
rights advocating whites as well as people of color, while
also taking away our right to vote. He has killed

(01:20:42):
hundreds of thousands of clean energy jobs and handed over
four point five trillion dollars in tax breaks to himself.

Speaker 6 (01:20:49):
And his billionaire friends.

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
Now do any of you in the listening audience think
that a Christian, a Christian so called God loving man
or woman, would do such a thing. No, that would
not be the case. Brothers, sisters, liberal whites, and all
democracy supporters. Stop being scared to fight by what the
beings necessary when the other cult side is fighting to

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erase us in our constitution. And you might ask, but
why is he doing such harm? And I would say, well,
it's because again you elected a devil. Now prepare for
the pain, and black and brown maga idiots, you only
have yourself to blame for this slaughtering which is going
to happen of God's first created people by the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
And I say, amen, Doctor Harper, back to our phone lines,
what do you say, wd Ia high caller?

Speaker 13 (01:21:44):
They have what son?

Speaker 15 (01:21:47):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (01:21:48):
And these people, well, I don't think all these black
folk are cult members. I think someone just chaos agents.
You know, they don't really like their own black folk,
but they see something else and hurting black folk that
they can't hurt. You know, they want to come up
and join those but they but it's going to come
back on them too.

Speaker 15 (01:22:06):
Now I work with some real cult numbers. There's one guy.

Speaker 20 (01:22:10):
He started out a regular guy, and I've been there
about seventeen years.

Speaker 15 (01:22:13):
Started a regular guy, then.

Speaker 20 (01:22:15):
He went super religious, and now he's in the colt,
the Trump Colt and me and other other wise white guys.

Speaker 15 (01:22:22):
Everyone.

Speaker 20 (01:22:23):
You know, Trump ain't a Christian. What's the name of
his church, what the name his pastor none of that
matter because even if you present the evidence they moved
the gold posts or they just dismissed it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:22:35):
I mean, I've never understood cult members, you know, see
them on TV and movie, but now understand them.

Speaker 20 (01:22:40):
They're just these regular folks who are I believe they
don't have any self uh or said what I'm looking
for a real personality, So they're easily influenced.

Speaker 15 (01:22:50):
By other folks.

Speaker 20 (01:22:51):
Yes, because this joy went from a regular guy hanging
out and everything to a.

Speaker 15 (01:22:55):
Super religious guy and not just a religious guy, super
religious and now he's a cult member and Trump, so
something with their personnel. And also it's a cult of
whiteness as well, as I.

Speaker 20 (01:23:05):
See some of these farmers crying, but they still say
they would vote for Trump.

Speaker 15 (01:23:11):
You lose your whole livelihood, but you still would vote
for this person.

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
That's right.

Speaker 20 (01:23:16):
So it's a colt of whiteness and a cult of
like you said, and as long as it's hurting somebody else,
we don't care until it hurt trucks like some of
these black folks.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (01:23:26):
Something Molie said though, he said, you know about the
Titanic sinking. Yes, if folk remember the Titanic, this country
Titanic almost sunk before President Obama got in there. You remember,
Prisident Bush called in John McCain and President Obama before
the election because this big old Titanic was about to
go under. So the people and the folk income and

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Thomas and Senate, they voted against the American rescue plan
the first time. But when the Titanic was almost capsized
and Obama got in there, then they.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Voted for her.

Speaker 15 (01:24:00):
And as I told some of the jokes, y'all didn't
like Obama.

Speaker 17 (01:24:03):
He saved y'all freaking jobs.

Speaker 20 (01:24:05):
Y'all still working Biden saved some of y'all pensions. Y'all
still talking about liberals this and Democrat.

Speaker 15 (01:24:10):
That say they just what hurts folk is the hypocrisy.
You know your hypocrite, We know your hypocrite.

Speaker 20 (01:24:18):
But Jack like we stupid and y'all right, that's what
hurts a lot of folks. But to also to these shootings. Now,
if you remember building Rufe uh the guys in Buffalo,
Gidrin Hayden.

Speaker 15 (01:24:31):
That his name, they killed.

Speaker 20 (01:24:32):
They were white nationalists, the guy down in the air pass,
the white Nashalist.

Speaker 15 (01:24:36):
They killed folk because they were in their white national's coat.
But I remember them writing nothing on their on their
shellcases or bullets.

Speaker 20 (01:24:43):
But now all of a sudden, every shooter is writing
something on the sell cats and the bullets. I'm not
a conspiracy theory, but I don't really buy something's going on.
You know, every every shooter now it's writing something on
their shellcasing bullet and they're trying to make it all
leftists and bis and like folk don't. Folk are getting mad,
Like it was just on a show where they saying,

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you know, uh, Jasmin Crockett they called she called him
fascists and Nazis, and that's what's causing the problem.

Speaker 15 (01:25:13):
Please, he's going right out of the Hitler playbook.

Speaker 20 (01:25:18):
He's got he's got his propaganda Nazi right there, Uh,
Stephen Miller, he's got his propaganda Nazer borders are come home.
So they're going right out of Hitler play but right
in your face. But folks want to say, while you're
saying Nazi and fascist, you know that's what's taking the
temperature of no which your white nationalist combined with your race,
with your hypocrisy in religious because they're not really Christians.

Speaker 28 (01:25:41):
No, no, no, And I figured out the reason they're
so hurt by Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was essentially their
greatest recruiter for Hitler youth. He was going to these
college campuses recruiting these white folk with half.

Speaker 20 (01:25:53):
Truth and lives. He wasn't really debating, he was just
spreading their propagandacy. When I saw him, when he got
into real debate with a black, she beat his butt.

Speaker 12 (01:26:02):
See.

Speaker 20 (01:26:02):
But when he goes to these white colleges who don't
really have the background, he can fool them. But now
that he's gone, he was our biggest recruiter. I don't
think it's going to continue because as you saw in
Tennessee State when some of his acolytes.

Speaker 15 (01:26:14):
Went there, they got their blood rental. Right, But that's
what they're going to start doing, going to black colleges.
And I hope our young black folks are smart enough
not to.

Speaker 20 (01:26:23):
Engage them in violent way, because that's just what they want.

Speaker 15 (01:26:26):
They want to say.

Speaker 20 (01:26:27):
See them black students ain't no better than these thuds
out in.

Speaker 15 (01:26:30):
The streets, right.

Speaker 20 (01:26:31):
Don't hope our young black men and women on these
black colleges do not engage you, suthing, don't even let.

Speaker 15 (01:26:35):
Him on first.

Speaker 20 (01:26:36):
But if they are allowed to come on, don't engage
them in the way they want you to engage them
with your intelligence anyway, Thank you, dot comperhence.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Thank you, thank you, Whatson w D I A Hi Marie.

Speaker 29 (01:26:48):
Hey, Hey y'all doing bear, Doctor Harper doing well?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Man?

Speaker 15 (01:26:52):
All right?

Speaker 20 (01:26:53):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (01:26:53):
Uh? I was uh concerned about the National Guard, doctor Harper.

Speaker 21 (01:26:59):
Uh.

Speaker 29 (01:27:00):
The Governor Bill Lee asked for the President to send
the National Guard here to help us out. But the
thing about Governor Bill Lee, now I know the federal
government had sent governor of Tennessee, Governor Bill Lee, mellions
of dollars, ill mob for KSU. You know, the Black college,

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But it they ever got there, he sent it to
the white school. Now, if he didn't want to help
us out it, what makes the people think that he's
trying to help us? Now, he wouldn't help us with
the education. He sent that money somewhere else. So now
he asking the president to send the national Guard here. Now,
once the national Guard get here, doctor Harper, how long
you imagine they're gonna be here?

Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
They could only be supposed to be They could only
be here for twenty eight to thirty days, because after
that it asked to go through Congress.

Speaker 29 (01:27:47):
I was told okay, So then that that way they
can circles have a way to stay longer.

Speaker 15 (01:27:54):
Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
Or they can always find a way of staying longer.

Speaker 12 (01:27:57):
Right?

Speaker 29 (01:27:58):
And see, well, i I'll attend Southwest Unit Southwest Community
College right now, and one of my professors told us
that there are seven cities that house the majority of
the black population, and every and everywhere Donald Trump is sitting,
the National Guard is one of those cities. So they

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raised up a red flag. I said, well, when the
national Guard this this is just my opinion, Doctor Harper,
I feel as though when the National Guard get here
and they're gonna be doing they have their checkpoints and
things like that and this, and that it was not
picking up.

Speaker 11 (01:28:33):
Trash or whatever they've been doing.

Speaker 18 (01:28:36):
Uh.

Speaker 29 (01:28:36):
I called it a south opening. Just like when the
business get ready to open up the first day of
casino or business something, they have what they call a
soft opening. And that's the way I see the National
Guard coming in with opening. But and then and I
don't think doctor, I really don't think they're going to
go anywhere, because I think they're just gonna they're gonna

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be around.

Speaker 11 (01:28:58):
Uh.

Speaker 29 (01:28:59):
And and Donald Trump, it's going to give the sigma
he's going to give, he's going to sound alarm, you know,
and all of a sudden. This is just my opinion
that things are going to change, you know, until like
you say this, Uh, he's gonna call maybe something like
a national security risk, you know, something that's going to

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keep him to stand office and also lock us up,
doctor Harper, if you just look suspicion when he called
this national security risk, anybody that fits the description is
going to be subject to arrest. And when they get you,
like I said, you're not going to one property. They
got military detention camp. Say where they're going to start

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seting the black people? Well, then unknown court day if
you have a court day and see, uh you know, uh,
you know, like I say, they they love, they love
for us to destroy ourselves. And they remind him of
a verse in the Bible, let's kill the tree with
the fruit there, uh see. And that's that's basically what

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I see going on now. It's it's it's a it's
a biblical thing, and it's just that, you know, people
want the National Guard to come in, doctor Hobby. But
it may be okay, like I said, they're gonna have
a soft opening, but where Donald Trump blow to whistle,
it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
Change than we appreciate you getting at it.

Speaker 29 (01:30:26):
Okay, what's your what's your opinion on that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Doctor?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Okay, thank you?

Speaker 8 (01:30:30):
My res all I can say, brother, is is I agree.
But one other thing I do want to say, Beth,
is that we need to keep our eye on on
Trump's whatever he's saying about HBCUs because see, he wants
to close him, yeah he does.

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
He wants to get rid of him.

Speaker 8 (01:30:44):
And keep in mind, since since the Tale of Tennessee
Owes T s U two billion dollars. If he closes
down HBCUs, then where does the money go to?

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
Right the great PC world?

Speaker 8 (01:30:56):
Because it won't be the x pc US exact, so
they can keep that too big, and can't they They
can't make the sense with them going right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
W d I a high caller.

Speaker 11 (01:31:05):
Hey that beautiful bel and uh uh good to hear you,
Warren Harper, I know quickly, Uh you know, I got
had free subject. I want to get your opinion on
very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:31:19):
Just beginning though, is uh there are biblical stories that
tell us how governments do it, Like in Egypt when
they said these people are growing too much, what are
we gonna do? Well, let's kill them. Well that didn't
work well, then okay, well let's work them to death.
And then if that doesn't work well, that we'll just
beat them to death. That's and so this is a

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form of that. There's nothing new under the sun. But
and and but the thing that I want to point
out is when it comes to d I, when it
comes to this electoral college, isn't that a form of
d I talking about the inclusion that we don't have
enough people? So we need a little hand you know,

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hand out, hand up to be included in the voting thing.
So Electoria College and d I isn't that a form
of d I? When it comes to protests? We know
that FBI infiltrates and they you know and the Proud
Boys and the Boogaloo Boys, that they infiltrate protests. Why

(01:32:20):
don't we have people throughout the protest this designated to
watch for uh dissenters and you know, those who are
trying to uh caut trouble and and pour them out.
Tell everybody to separate from them, but never take our
eyes off of them and pour them out. That's what
we need to do when we have a protest. And

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the third thing quickly is that what's going on with
the mentality of black guys, mostly in the hood, when
you know what's happening, you know what's going on, you
know what's out there, and you go out there and
get picked up anyway, what's going on with that mental
I thank you, I love you and love you.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
It's a denial. It's a denial mentality.

Speaker 15 (01:33:07):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:33:08):
And and as long as you have a di dial mentality,
then then basically the the the emotional part of the
brain takes over, and therefore everything that is exciting and
fun and and uh and and and and even somewhat
risky becomes what what person tends to do. Now, I
don't know about how to answer your question about the
the uh the Goctoral College. I don't see that connection

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between diversity, equity and inclusion. But maybe the next time
that I'm on you can explain that a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
For me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Go to our phone lines and keep in mind, y'all,
we're getting ready to close, so we're gonna let you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
W d I a high caller. Hi, you on air.
W d I a high caller.

Speaker 24 (01:33:49):
Hello, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
I'm doing fine, Larry.

Speaker 24 (01:33:52):
And you I'm doing great. Let me change the subject
a little bit.

Speaker 27 (01:33:57):
Well, it's gonna it's the same thing, but it's gonna
be in a different form, and I'm gonna use you.

Speaker 20 (01:34:03):
I'm gonna use you.

Speaker 24 (01:34:06):
It is one thing is to the key to the city,
and then it's another thing. National. A key to the
city is being appointed by your mayor. He'll give it
to some famous person without working for us. National is

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a person.

Speaker 27 (01:34:28):
That has dedicated listen to me, will y'all a person
that have dedicated and this topic that you all are
talking about, if we dedicate all life, to all job,
to all job, we would not go through this national

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is what miss bab Johnson have did. He has dedicated
her job and reached out. She's known all over.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
The United States and probably out of the state as well.
But at the same time, she worked. She worked again,
she worked, and one lady said, forty six.

Speaker 24 (01:35:18):
I don't blame her.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
I would have correct her to forty nine. But she worked.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
She worked.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Understand, y'all, when we work and dedicate ourselves to our
job and doing what's right, she don't do.

Speaker 15 (01:35:35):
You see what she do.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
She bring people on. She ain't with all that yaba YadA, YadA, yaba.
It's good, it's fine, but she concerned. She most of
you all ain't gonna get this if you don't do
these two things, if you don't love people and care
about people, and those things work hand in hand. She

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love and care about people. That's why she do what
she do. She's not trying to cause confusion at all.
She wants you to be educated, learn some. She can
leads you to the water, but she cannot make y'all drink.

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But at the same time, if we get it together
and dedicate all life like she hell and do all
job like she has, we all would be national and
everything would be going great.

Speaker 15 (01:36:38):
But it is a butt all right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Thank you, Larry, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you so much.
And wd Ia high caller.

Speaker 30 (01:36:48):
Hey bell, how you doing, Hey a common man.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
I'm doing.

Speaker 30 (01:36:53):
All right, Thank you?

Speaker 12 (01:36:54):
Hey.

Speaker 30 (01:36:54):
Do to Hopper quickly about you spoke earlier about crying briefly,
and I think you and I agree with some of
the root causes of crime being in lack of education,
low paying jobs, you know, different things like that. I
myself definitely believe in and and know the education is

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a bit key to success and remove yourself away from poverty.
Education open doors for you. The thing about it is,
when it comes to our education, so many things that's
been taken out of out of the schools and not
put into the schools. If you understanding, Okay, I don't think.
I don't think education is key. It's the level across

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the board when it comes through inner city schools. For instance,
I was talking to the storm a few days ago
where I found out like Germantown is about to implement
studies for AI, but I don't hear anything about that
for the inner city schools, you see. So there's a
discrepancy right there. Okay, then when we when we talk

(01:37:58):
about work, low paying jobs, I want to ask you
how hard should we be looking at our legislators because
we're living in a state where minimum wage is under
eight dollars in a hour. That's right, you know, so
how how do you work yourself out of poverty? Just
from the beginning, you're the working poor.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
You're the working poor, they say, exactly.

Speaker 30 (01:38:21):
So, you know, when we make all that together, lack
of education, lack of parenting, low paying jobs, either of
that nature, I think those are some of the things
that we should be putting pressure on people about and
ask for better and and I think our legislators sure going.
I think our legislators play a part of it. Because
they are giving us these seven dollars and twenty five

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cent an hour minimum wages. We're not getting the best
opportunities in the community. We have low paying jobs in
the city. If it was for fair x, how unemployment
rate would probably be double here in Memphis, Tennessee.

Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
True, you know.

Speaker 30 (01:39:00):
Of these things that I wanted to speak to you about.

Speaker 8 (01:39:01):
Yeah, and keep in mind along with that education, Bev
mentioned something that was very important.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
She had Negro history tenth grade.

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
Unless you teach our children about the genius amongst us
and our ancestors and their genius, they're not going they're
not going to strive to be smart because if all
they see is is what's on TikTok or what's on
the the all these these these videos and what have you,
then that that becomes their idol. And when whatever becomes
your idol is that is what becomes what you want

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to become as well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Yeah, uh, thank you coming man, Doctor Harper. Good good
show today. Last words you'd like to say to our listeners.

Speaker 8 (01:39:40):
Again, what I was trying to do today was I
was trying to kind of elevate the conversation to thinking
about what would doctor Martin Luther King Junior say about
what's going on today? Now, for some reason, we always
get off on all kinds different different topics. But if
you think about that, what would doctor Martin Luther King
say about Donald Trump and what he has done to

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this country so far? The divisiveness, the mean spiritedness, his
desire to get retribution, to hurt people, to imprison people,
to take away our rights to vote. What would doctor
Martin Luther King say about that? He would say he's
evil and that's what we need to take home.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
He's evil, Doctor Warren Harper, Thank you, Doctor Harper. Look
forward to the next time brother.

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