Racist Pseudo Religion with Dr. Warren Harper

We are talking with Dr. Warren Harper Behavioral Political Health Consultant about White Christian Nationalism on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.

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once again on this Thursday, December fourth, twenty twenty five.

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Enjoyed this fabulous day to day. We'll get ready to
put your ears on. He is back in the house.

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Our behavioral political health consultant, doctor Warren Harper is back
in the house. As we get to his topics, we'll
talk about white Christian nationalism, the racist pseudo religion of lies,
sedious behavior, or the truth regarding not following illegal orders.

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We'll talk about those things with doctor Warren Harper, So
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Ei a on the BEB Johnson Show. It is Thursday,
December fourth, twenty twenty five. Enjoyed this fabulous day to
day And as you heard the green onions, I had
to play that.

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I had to play that in it.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Some of you all don't know, and if you do know,
we lost Steve Cropper on yesterday, as I said from Soulsville, USA.
Steve Cropper was a member. He was the guitar player,
rhythm guitar. He was a member of Booker T and
the MG's. Yeah, they integrated group that came out of

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Stacks Records right there at nine twenty six East Maclamore.
And I want to play that green onions as we
remember Steve Cropper. And I was thinking, I was telling
my friend yesterday that we've lost all of them. Booker
T is still hanging. Booker T is still hanging, Booker
lives in California, but we've lost the other three of

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Booker T and the MG's yesterday. Steve Cropper, duck Don
is gone and Al Jackson's. They were all part of
Booker T and the MG's who played behind a lot
of the Stacks artists and a lot of other artists
as well. And I'll just tell you before I get
to doctor Harper. And I just thought this was an

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interesting story that we always think about the Lorraine Motel
as as as the place where doctor King lost his life,
but before that, the Lorraine Motel was the hotel where
a lot of the Stacks artists went there and wrote songs.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Doctor Harper.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
They they, I know you've probably heard the story if
you've you've seen the Stacks documentary. But they they would
go there and and and write songs and and and
the white folks was there with the black folks, and
especially the white folks from from from from from Stax Records.
But one of the things, and and Steve Cropper wrote

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a lot of songs and and and this is one
of the funny stories, Doctor Harper, that he said, if
you Wilson Pickett, if you all remember his song called
six three four five, seven eight nine, Steve Cropper, Eddie
Floyd and and Wilson they wrote that song at the

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Lorraine mo tell They wrote that song.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
That song became a hit. And and and and and
Steve said, the reason that.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
They wrote the numbers and back in the day Bell South,
which was Belle South of Memphis, they started, you know,
taking off back in the day it was like Glenn
Glenn Dale, glen View, facts, facts, fair, all that. But
they just started using numbers. So they used the numbers.
They got six three four five and then Eddie Floyd

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said it, well, my girlfriend, she need to call me anyway.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
So they wrote the song. Song became a hit, right,
Steve got.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
A call from the vice president of Atlantic Records because
Wilson Pickett was on Atlantic Records but he recorded Lovester
and and and the vice president told Steve Steve, y'all
wrote a good song's number one hit, but you costing
the company forty thousand dollars. So listen to this. So

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Steve said, what say you costing? Because that number was
a number doctor Harper to a nursing home.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
But the vice president said, that's okay, we paid it.
Now you got a number one here. Isn't that a
great starty Money Talks, Money Talks said it was.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
It was.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
It was a number to a nurse at home and
they kept getting cast but the but Atlantic Record said, hey,
we'll pay it because we're making money. And they made
a lot of money off black folks. But I want
to say, that's one of the stories that you know
when you think about Steve Kroft and you think about
that that was an integrated group book continuing the mgs

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two white guys, two black guys and making all that
good music over there on Mathemore.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's something. Yeah, But we but right here in Memphis.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
So I just wanted to give honor and to honor to,
you know, to to to Steve Cropper's family and the
family of Stacks.

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Of course, yes, and I'm sure they.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Will put have his name up on the billboard, because
they usually do when artists, their artists died, they'll put
in memory of But but Steve wrote a lot of songs.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
He was making money to the end, that's all right.
He was making Doctor Harbor.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
He was making money to the end, and I'm sure
his family will continue to get that money. And another thing,
when you hear when you hear soul Man by seven Days,
that was written by David Port and Isa Cages. And
in the song, Sam always says play it Steve, and
Steve is playing that guitar.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And soul Man. So little history for y'all, but I
love that story. Let it grty, you don't cost us
forty thousand dollars, but they paid it. They had our hit.
That's exactly right. Welcome in Doctor Harper. How can you doing?
How Thanksgiving? Everything was great?

Speaker 10 (13:08):
You know, My wife and I had had a quiet
time together and my sons. And my sons were basically
with their friends right socializing, and you know, we stopped
by there for a bit betther than that.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's about it.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, doctor Harper, I got my snow. Hey,
I was in ann Arbor, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's all right.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I got the snow when I got there, Doctor Harper,
that Thursday, because I always leave on Thanksgiving morning. I
got there and it was it was it was no snow.
It's kind of cloudy, but it was cold. Thursday and
Friday no snow. And then I came here in on
news and the weather man says, all right, Saturday, we're
gonna get six to eight inches.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
Is that so?

Speaker 6 (13:47):
And it says it's gonna start the snow is gonna
start in the middle of the game because University of
Michigan was playing Ohio State, and when we were watching
it on TV, you could see the snow coming down.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
By the time that game was.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
Finished, the field was covered, but we had snow. So
I had me some snow, Doctor Harper. And it was
cold dot corp.

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Twenty nine degree. I'm looking for some snow.

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Here I know.

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Now.

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I'm not gonna say when you go to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, you know, hey, I expect it to be there,
but you expect to be snow there. But you're looking
for some snow here. I'm looking for it. Okay, I'm
looking for some I take the snow me too. Well, yeah,
we'll we'll do it.

Speaker 10 (14:25):
We know how to drive in at dot carper, grabbing it,
walking it, party in it, whatever needs to be done.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's right, you know it.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (14:34):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, welcome back, doctor Harper. Good to have you here.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Boy.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
We have some topics today, and I know we want
to get right on that white Christian nationalism a racist
pseudo religion of lies, sedudious behavior or the truth regarding
not following illegal orders. That's a big topic this week,
doctor Harper. And is nursing a profession or not? Wow,

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doctor Harper, you got me on these. Okay, I'm ready, brother.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
All right.

Speaker 10 (15:04):
Google defines white Christian nationalism as a political ideology or
belief system that blends white nationalism and Christian nationalism, which
when combined, means that one, the United States was founded
as a Christian nation, which is a lie number. Two,
that white people are a specific and distinct race, which
is a lie number three, that America should be governed

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by Christian laws and principles, along with white Christian nationalists
being those who govern all others within the nation. And
that's never going to happen. So in order for the
listening artist to interrogate this definition of white Christian nationalism,
we first have to define some words used to justify
the lie. So one is what is Christianity? In brief,

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it is a religion focused on faith, the life and
teaches of Jesus Christ, and ultimately loyalty or duty to God.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
What is nationalism. It is a belief emphasizing loyalty, devotion,
or duty to a nation which overweighs other individual or
group interests. And that's interesting because if you are a
white nationalist, then you're starting to believe more so in
terms of we are superior to other people, and we
should be in control of other people, and our interests

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are more in line with the nation, which we feel
is a white nation versus individual rights of other people.
But let me go on.

Speaker 10 (16:24):
The next thing is what is white nationalism. Well, white
nationalism is a belief system that advocates for a white
national identity, which means the white people see themselves and
their relationship to this country, and white nationalism influences everything
from their personal beliefs to political movements. It means having
a shared set of white values, language, and symbols such

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as flags and monuments, which results in the white person
having a strong sense of belonging to a nation and
which brings about a shared sense of pride.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Understandable.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
White nationalism believes white people should maintain a democrat, a
demographic and cultural majority in this nation. And the question
that you and the listing audience should be asking is
how can these white nationalists maintain a demographic and cultural
majority in this nation which is moving fast towards whites
being a minority themselves, other than by disenfranchising and depriving

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black people and brown people of our rights to votes,
also depriving black and brown people of our constitutional rights
in general and the privileges which belong to a free
people wherever one.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Lives in this country.

Speaker 10 (17:32):
White nationalism, as I've already stated for most, that idea
that white people are a distinct race. And as you
know by now, there is no such thing as a
race except the human race, which originated on the African continent,
where God placed the first human beings to be born.
White nationalists believe that so called white people are superior

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to others, that white people should have their own nation
in which they whish they hold power over all so
called non white people. They also seek to create and
preserve white domination, specifically opposing immigration and diversity of people
as a threat to white survival and white extinction, which
is of course what is believed by the current felon

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in the Puzzle Palace forming known as the White House,
who is a white nationalist, and that white nationalism justifies
the oppression of more healthier, more hea, more heavily mellanated people,
which and that views us as their enemy. Critics of
white nationalisms say that this is simply a new term
for white supremacy and racism that motivates and promotes violence

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against non whites, that it is anti democratic and authoritarian,
that it prevents communities of color to advance economically or
have social progress. Critics also say that it is a
paranoid belief system based on insecure conspiracy theories such as
the replacement theory, that many whites believe is a plot

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to overthrow any race whites from this country. Critics also
accuse white nationalism of hatred and racial bigotry. So now,
what does Christian nationalism mean. Christian nationalism is a belief
system that unites a white nationalist, which is the racial
superiority belief, as a particular expression of Christianity, with American

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public life. Furthermore, it asserts that the United States was
founded as a Christian nation and should be governed by
Christian values. It advocates for the government to protect and
promote Christianity, such as banning books which do not promote
what Christians believe should be in books. That there is
no such thing as separation between church and state. It

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favors white people over all other ethnic peoples and believes
in creating and maintaining a social hierarchy with people of
color at the bottom and those non or demellanated people.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
At the top.

Speaker 10 (19:50):
Critics say that Christian nationalism is anti democratic that threatens
to do away with and denies the separation of church
and state. Critics further say that this belief system is
linked to discrimination against black and brown people, the LGBTQ
plus community, non Christians, and to whitewashed history, which is
what President Rump or better known as President Poop wants

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to see and achieve in America, and it further implies
that if one is being a good American, then what
must be a Christian? So bev let's start tackling the lie,
the propaganda, and the gaslighting of white Christian nationalism. Number one,
America or the United States was never founded as a
Christian nation. So what is the truth and the facts

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of this false claim. Well, let's go to the Treaty
of Tripoli, signed in seventeen ninety six. The treaty discusses
the role of religion in the United States government quote
which was ratified by the Senate and signed by the President,
which states the government of the United States of America
is not in any sense founded on Christian religion unquote,
according to professor of history doctor Frank Lambert, who writes

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quote by their actions, the founding fathers made clear that
their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of
a state religion, in that individuals, not the government, would
define religious faith and practice in the United States. Thus,
the founders ensured that in no official sense would America
be a Christian republic, and that it is secular, meaning

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no religious basis whatsoever, and that its negotiations with other
countries would adhere to the rule of law, not to
the dictates of the Christian faith unquote. Furthermore, the US
Constitution establishes a separation between church and states and does
not name Christianity as the official religion.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Number Two.

Speaker 10 (21:37):
Americans United for Separation of Church and State claims that
white Christian nationalism is the dangerous belief that America is
and must remain a Christian founded country for its white
Christian inhabitants number Three and that our laws and politics
must reflect this. They go on to say that white
Christian nationalism is a backlash against the changing demographics in

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America the struggle to retain tradition with Christian power structures.
White Christian nationalists are raging against the dying of their privilege,
who want to roll back women's rights, strip LGBTQ people
of basic freedoms, and impose a theocratic a theocratic state
where religious laws, such as in Iran and Saudi Arabia,

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are strongly integrated into the government's legal and political systems.
So clearly, America's never founded as a Christian nation, nor
is Christianity the only religion that America adheres to. So
the question to be asked is what do White Evangelical
Protestants adhere too? Since they represent forty four million in number, Well,

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white Evangelical Protestants either believe in, or practice, or sympathize
with White Christian nationalism, making it the religious group most
supportive of the White Christian nationalists belief set, system, and
political agenda. White Evangelical Protestants are dispropors portunately supportive of
Christian nationalism. So, my brothers and sisters, while you watch

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the megachurch Evangelical Protestant ministers on television Sunday mornings, just
keep in mind that this is the major group that
adheres to and sympathizes with White Christian nationalism. Now, some
might say, doctor Harper, you should not discuss religious issues.
You are not a religious scholar, and I'm not, and
I would say that I am only informing the audience

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of what the literature says.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
So don't get cross with me. Do your research and
argue this out with the scholars who have researched this
issue and brought forth their vision and their wisdom on
the topic. Step there for a bit.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Okay, we are in a session with doctor Warren Harper.
He is here, our behavioral political health consultant. When you're talking.
Our first topic, we will stick with that up before
we go through the others, the white Christian nationalism of
racist pseudo religion of lies. If if you have a
question or two four doctor Harper in some things he

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They ain't finna take our a mere country. They ain't finish.

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We ain't gonna let that happen.

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I am the most erudite, mine, brilliant thinker and politico philosopher.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Doctor Harper probably gonna fall out of his seat because
I'm about to agree with.

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You on something.

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Why I falling out of my seat.

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About to fall out of his seat here, and he's
about to learn why I'm a man of much book learning.

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Why I have an Arab Dykee mind.

Speaker 16 (27:58):
Okay, Christian nationalists, nationalism, whatever you want to call that crap,
that nonsense, that foolishness is not.

Speaker 8 (28:11):
Christianity.

Speaker 16 (28:13):
Matter of fact, according to the Bible, Christian nationalists nationism
don't even exist. It's nothing but a human philosophy. Jesus said,
Jesus said, My kingdom is not of this world. If
it was of this world, it's serving with a fight

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for him, and they wouldn't deliver him over to the Jews.
There ain't no connection. Let me say this because I
hear folks talk.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
About all the time.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Oh, the church got to get.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Out, We got to pass up bottle water. We got
to do food drive, We got.

Speaker 9 (28:48):
To do this.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
We got to get folks.

Speaker 16 (28:50):
Listen, folks, stop the madness. Jesus said, my kingdom is
not of this world. There is no connection, absolutely none
between the Kingdom of God and the world, none what soever.
You know why, because the Bible said those in this

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flesh cannot please God.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
The flesh, the world, the Kingdom of Gods.

Speaker 16 (29:16):
Nothing. And people go out and let me tell you
something too. So the Christian nationalists there ain't nothing but
a bunch of lobbery. They go and lobby, that's all
they do. They try to lobby, lobby, lobby, lobby, lobby, lobby.
They go and lobby for this and lobby for that.
They want to go and uh try to They want
to try to build a kingdom, and they want to
go lobby for this. And they got all the little

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political manipulations in Washington, d C.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
And they want to go there and lobby for this
and lobby for that. Nonsense.

Speaker 16 (29:46):
Christian nationalists, Christian whatever they call it right, ain't got
nothing to do with Christianity. Matter of fact, they don't
even exist. According to the Bible. That ain't nothing here
run philosophy fee so That's why folk ask me flect
the theater, why you ain't out here trying to feed
the pope in fact for social justice and doing all this.

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You know why, because I don't how to?

Speaker 9 (30:11):
You know what?

Speaker 15 (30:11):
Because out all how to.

Speaker 16 (30:13):
The Bible ain't never told me I have to do
that to advance the Kingdom of God. I'm not doing
it to advance the Kingdom of God. I'm doing it
to help the community.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
I do get involved in, you.

Speaker 16 (30:23):
Know, food drives and things, but I'm doing it not
to advance the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Christ,
because his kingdom is don't have nothing to do. It's
totally disconnect from this world. Nothing nothing we can do
to advance the Kingdom of Bill, the Kingdom of God.
But now, one thing I do disagree with you about Trump.

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Trump ain't known nationalist, that's one thing for sure of
Trump and anti lobbyist.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's hard because he changes around so much.

Speaker 10 (30:55):
But let me ask you. Let me ask you, since
you have the yes, what about white Evangelical Protestants. You know,
the research was saying that they have sympathies towards this,
this false belief system.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
What are your thoughts on them?

Speaker 16 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they have. They have absolutely You're
right on that. They have absolutely caved in to them
because they come in and try to true they tried
to parade themselves until the you know, the feasts of Christians.
They try to fade themselves in. The only thing they're

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doing is bringing in the philosophers and uh and and
and and and and try to overthrow the country so forth.
And that ain't nothing but a bunch you know, we
cannot do we cannot do the work of God doing
satan work. You can't do the work of God doing
Satan work. That's all they try to do, is there.

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There ain't nothing noble about Christian naturally, nothing, you know,
you know, and going. So they want they want to church.
They want the Christian Church to take up their little
culture calls, and they have they have good intentions, you know,
they act like they have a love for Christ and
they want to advance the kingdom political lobbery and you know,

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social change, by entertainment, by emotional manipulation.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
Whatever they do. They want to always so they coming. Yeah,
I know they want it. But once again Jesus said,
my kingdom is not of this world. Totally disconnect you're right, you.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Know, black service.

Speaker 10 (32:35):
You know, when I brought up this topic two years ago,
I remember distinctly that you said, doctor Harper, you're right,
we agree about one thing or another. So I'm glad
that you that you can still continue to agree because
obviously they're they're forty four million white evangelical plasters out there,
and if they're being influenced that that they're superior and
that and that black people should not even exist, then

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we're in trouble.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
Right.

Speaker 16 (32:59):
Yeah, they're they're being deceived. They're really, really really being
deceived by that. And uh, it's pretty much just a
hostile uh rejection, you know, and serve different ways. But
but you know, the Bible semple to tell the church
one thing. It just tells us this when it comes
to the world system or whatever. It just tells us

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to love not the world needed the things that are
in the world, because the world is passing away. It
don't even the world don't even have a fruit, a
fruit of a fruiture Jesus said, the world is passing away,
And James said, to be a friendship with the world
is enmity with God. So we ain't got nothing to

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do with it. We ain't got nothing to do with that,
and we ain't got nothing to do with Christian naturalis,
because there ain't nothing but a bunch of nonsense.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
All right, Black, I said, well, today, Black conservative, you
had an arodite mind.

Speaker 12 (33:56):
This message.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, whatever it is, that's the hope.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
I wanted to ask you this because also when we
talk about the the those social ves, what you have.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Black ministers of course, who believe in the same thing.

Speaker 10 (34:14):
Money talks. Again, we just talked about that a little
bout money talks. And see, there are a lot of
people who have so much racial animosity now that they're
willing to go along and join with anybody that basically
is putting down somebody else and calling.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Themselves superior, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (34:31):
So we have a lot of small minded people, but
they're not just small minded, right, They basically have to
have some psychological issues as well.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
As I go back to our phone lines, Doctor Harper,
w D I a high caller.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
Good morning, Doctor Harper, and Bail Justin.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Hey Carl, good morning.

Speaker 9 (34:49):
Give me a moment Bill where I try to compose myself.
I will listening to that mine for a few minutes. Huh, Bill,
test for the record Tomorrow at one o'clock, I would
be home with jjail popcorn, my orange juice watching the
Perry View Panthers against the Justin State Tigers.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
Okay, brother, And we want to know if the Justin.

Speaker 9 (35:19):
State Tigers win the Sweat Championship tomorrow and they go
to the left, her necessarity will bail justin being allowed
Georgia for that game?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You never know.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Well, I have to look at my I've looked at
my schedule because I had been I had been planning
a carl But if I don't have another gig somewhere,
I'll probably be in Atlanta at the game if.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
They Okay, okay, okay. Now, Unfortunately, doctor Popper and Bail
Justin Black Conservatives to dreaming of dream and that's nothing
we could do about it because dreaming dream is not illegal.
But lor ham mercers for the United States of America.

(36:06):
This man come on radio and talk. I truly believe
he is just as dangerous as Glenn bet and Sean
Handy when they get on the radio or talk. That's
just dog on Shay. Now answer White Nephew is dootor
prper I don't understand why they vote against their best

(36:27):
interests will it comes to vote is the fact that
they hate people who do that look like them so
much that they will vote get their best interests because
a law of them received food steps super Well, why
do they do that? Explain it to me?

Speaker 10 (36:45):
Well, you know, I think to a large extent, they
have strong beliefs in the nation itself. But keep in
mind their nation is seen in their mind as a
white nation led and managed by white people. So therefore,
in spite of the hardshipt that they may go through,
they still have this this this glimmer of hope that

(37:07):
things are going to turn around. And so when they
see themselves being victims of this own, this criminal enterprise
of capitalism and what have you, they don't necessarily blame
the people who are in charge. What they see is
as as as as very very very intelligent white people
who are basically trying to put this course, this country,

(37:27):
this country back on course again. So they don't mind
suffering because they believe that soon after the suffering is
going to come all the prosperity.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
So they don't mind. But they're they're but they are.

Speaker 10 (37:40):
Are are are are are growing up at this particular
point to realize that the suffering is is for all
of us to deal with, not just blacks or people
of color in general, and not just some whites. But
it's for everyone to suffer, except for the billionaires out there.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
Okay, And now I want to ask both of your
questions based on what has happened in the last three weeks.

Speaker 15 (38:03):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (38:05):
You always seen Sandra, Mark Kelly and the five other
people who came on television and did that video about
illegal orders being given that you have the right to
do that, democrats, okay. And you also know that in
the constitution, the military oh for that as well. Now,

(38:27):
does Mark Kelly come across you as a stupid individual? Okay?
Do you think do you think the other five people
that serve the military are also in the intelligence come
across the stupid either.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
No?

Speaker 9 (38:42):
Okay, Well that tells me somebody told them about that video,
that air strike and everything that that Secretary of Defense did.
They knew who was coming mhm. Why all of a
sudden they decide to do that video three weeks ago. Now,
all of a sudden everything hit the send. You tell

(39:04):
me they.

Speaker 10 (39:05):
Johnny come lately, you know, I mean they're finally getting
some backbone. But my god, look how long it's taking.
Look how much suffering that's gone on.

Speaker 8 (39:12):
Gone, brother, But they find.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
This that's the instormation, I believe, and they decided, you
know what, this is the time to strike. I wish
they'd done this muths ago, but apparently they had the
ammunition and they knew what was coming, and they decided
to do it because I cannot have to leave Mark Kelly,
a man who served our country. That's not wife then

(39:35):
shining the head. But come on television do something that
they think is irresponsible. Something told me something is up,
and apparently I was right. So doctor Harper and Bell,
I was like for you two to have a great day,
continue with blessing and take care of yourself. And by
the way, I been leaving getting ready to reign Beil Johnson,

(39:56):
so you to be careful getting ready to go home.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
All right, brother, thank you, Carl, Bye bye bye bye,
Doctor Harper. We're gonna get ready to take a break.
When we come back, we're gonna finish because you've got
some good information in here. I can't wait for this
next topic. Hold on, y'all and we're gonna come back.
As we go to break. We are talking with our

(40:22):
behavioral political health consultant, doctor Ward Harper. Always if you
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Hen you did a something.

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We're talking with our political our behavioral political health consultant,
doctor Warren Harper, and doctor Harper.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Let's continue. Okay.

Speaker 10 (42:00):
Trump calls for a former naval aviator, astronaut and current
senator from Arizona to be hanged, and Trump made threats
of having the senator charged with seditious behavior punishable by death.
So first, let me start by defining seditious behavior, which
is conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel
against the authority of a legally established government, punishable up

(42:24):
to twenty years in prison and fines. Recently, Secretary of
Defense not Secretary of War, Pete Heatsek posted that the
department is investigating Senator Mark Kelly, a retired naval officer.
So what is he accused of doing? Well, he and
several other Democratic senators participated in a video reminding members

(42:45):
of the armed forces that they have no duty to
follow illegal orders, a concept enshrined in the Code of
Military Justice, and these senators encourage US troops to disobey
or refuse any orders they deem illegal. Now, many in
the listening audience may recall Lieutenant William Calley, who, during
the Vietnam War, was the only person convicted of in

(43:05):
connection with the horrific Mayli massacre, where he ordered his
platoon to engage in a legal order of massacre in
the entire village of over five hundred and four unresisting
unarmed civilians, mostly women, children and elderly men through bayoneting them, gain,
raping women and children, and shooting everyone dead, which is

(43:26):
a clear illegal order that goes against the Geneva Convention
and other laws as well. So now President rump or
Poop and Pete boy Hetstead are going after Senator Mark Kelly,
who again is a Democratic Senator from Arizona. He is
also a former naval aviator who flew combat missions during
the Gulf War, and he is also a retired astronaut

(43:47):
of the shuttle, the Space Shuttle. However, on November twenty fourth,
last month, Good Old Boy Pete of the Department of Defense,
not the Department of War, announced on social media that
Kelly was under investigation for mens its conduct in relation
to the illegal order video that Senator Kelly had other
senators put out stating that members of the Armed services

(44:08):
should not follow illegal orders. Good Old Boy Pete stated
that Senator Kelly could be recalled to active duty for
court martial proceedings and administrative measures. In response, Senator Kelly
posted this quote. When I was twenty two years old,
I commissioned as an ensign in the United States Navy
and swore an oath to the Constitution. I upheld that

(44:31):
path through flight school, multiple deployments on the USS Midway,
thirty nine combat missions in Operation Desert Storm, test pilot school,
four Space Shuttle flights at NASA. In combat, I had
a missile blow up next to my jet and flew
through anti aircraft fire to drop bombs on enemy targets
at NASA, I launched on a rocket, commanded the Space Shuttle,

(44:53):
and was part of the recovery mission that brought home
the bodies of my astronaut classmates who died on Columbia.
I did all of this in service to this country
that I love and has given me so much. Secretary
has said tweet is the first I've heard of these
allegations against him. I also saw the President's post saying
I should be arrested, hanged, and put to death. If

(45:16):
this is meant to intimidate me in other members of
Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administrative administration accountable,
it won't work. I've given too much to this country
to be silenced by bullies who care more about their
own power than protecting the constitution.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Unquote.

Speaker 10 (45:32):
Senator Chuck Schumer said that Trump is attempting to use
the Pentagon as his personal attack dog, and that this
is what dictators do. Clearly, what the Senators have done
by making this important and legal video is to reinforce
that one point three military servicemen and women one point
three million service members and women on active duty have

(45:53):
sworn an oath to follow the constitution, not that of
a felon with thirty four convictions and who has been
viewed by competent, highly regarded licensement health professionals as a malignant, narcissist,
sociopath and pathological liar. So what we are seeing, my
brothers and sisters, is that which is called is that

(46:15):
this so called White House is crumbling due to pathologically
poor leadership by President Rump. So the White House goes
into deflect mode and attempts to change the subject of
poor leadership and how tariffs are bankrupting average American consumers
and leading average Americans to the poor house. How farmers
who brought into Trump's lives of prosperity are now begging

(46:37):
for subsidies and their share of welfare moneies. And so,
in an effort to deflect attention away from Trump's failings,
he starts to fight with a Democrat senator so that
the media can have something else to focus on rather
than his mental and physical and political failings. Now, I
am sure that you agree that it is only appropriate

(46:58):
that one point three million women in men in the
military must be told the truth regarding how this low iq,
this colored mentally unhinged and the moral president is forcing
the military to kill many innocent fishermen each day, then
brag about how they are stopping drugs from entering this country.
The drag, the draft dodging president is building up a

(47:19):
warfare Almada with the threat of invading Venezuela. And then
who steps in none other than his White House Press secretary,
who thinks she's cute and who is married to a
man who's comfortably can be her grandfather. As she attempts
to justify the President's threats against Senator Kelly by making
him their target. She then states, as if she is

(47:41):
a navy jag, that quote all orders. Then she stops,
She starts to offer says all orders that she finally realizes, Oh,
I'm in trouble, and she says lawful orders are presumed
to be lawful.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
Duh.

Speaker 10 (47:55):
But she says what she wanted to say was all
orders given by authorities figures are lawful. But she caught herself, okay,
which is the same lie that Lieutenant Kelly and his
platoon thought when they started over five hundred innocent human beings.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So what is a lawful order? Lawful military orders are
directives that have a valid military purpose are clear and
do not violate the Constitution, US law, or international law.
Unlawful orders are those.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
That require a service member to commit a criminal act,
violate constitutional rights, or break federal or international law. Service
members have a duty to refuse unlawful orders, as obeying
them can have serious legal consequences. I think that Secretary
has said should keep his makeup face mouth shut because
he allegedly informed his admiral quote to kill all of

(48:47):
them or something to that effect, referring to men who
survived the bombing of their boat originating from Venezuela, the
same as Lieutenant Cally told his men to kill all
the people in the Mayline massacre, which was in a
legal unlawful order, so Secretary had set maybe should be
found guilty and put in prison or fired from his
job as Secretary of Defense not Secretary of War. We

(49:11):
as clear thinking, non fascist, non white Christian nationalists and
another and non racist people must follow the advice of
author Timothy Snyder, who I have outlined in his past
in the past regarding his book entitled Tyranny twenty sessan
twenty set lessions lesson excuse me from the twentieth century unquote.
When he states do not obey in advance, what he

(49:34):
means is that we should never engage in anticipatory obedience
to what this fascist dictator of a president has called for.
This also means that we should not act instinctively without
thinking to a new situation or military orders that are
given as if they are legal orders. It further means
that military men and women are remarkably receptive to new

(49:54):
rules or orders given to them in a new situation
when given the order from a military leader. Rump and
Pete Boyd claimed that strikes were authorized by the US
President and by him, who state that the operations are
intended to dismantle narco terrorists networks by intentionally killing every
human being on these small ships and speed boats with

(50:16):
hal fire missiles. President Poop and his boy toy Secretary
of Defense Hedgepit, along with the make America Hate Again
blind followers, follow Rump automatically and obey in advance by
accepting everything that he says as a legal order or
as facts and the truth, and therefore they act accordingly
on his behalf to harm and kill innocent human beings.

(50:38):
We owe praise to the Democrat senators who have given
notice to the one point three million servicemen and women
that they do not have to obey unlawful orders. And
if these servicemen and women don't want more blood on
their hands or worse, as Lieutenant Calley, receive prison time,
then they need to first find out what legal and
illegal orders really are, then pray, and then inform whoever

(51:02):
gives an illegal order to shove it and live with
an honest conscious for not obeying in advance. Remember, brothers
and sisters, thou shall not kill just to make an
orange face bone spurred draft, your bathing coward and dictator.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
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Speaker 6 (56:56):
Before I go to the phone and doctor Harper, I
want to ask the last segment you talked about, and
that has been a big topic this week about unlawful orders.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
And we're Senator Mark Kelly.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
Now I'm thinking now he's been in the service, he's
an astronaut.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
He ought to know something or he knows no, he knows.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
And see, the sad reality is that every other senior officer,
particularly those above him, are scared to death right death.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
And I'm just like Carl who mentioned earlier. Now and
I don't know the Democrats just waitful. I'm glad they
made the video, but why is it taking him so
long to come?

Speaker 9 (57:43):
And I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I don't understand it, doctor Harper. What is it that
people are afraid of Trump? I don't get it.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
You know, people are afraid of anyone that comes into
a room and then takes charge boldly. Yes, he came
into the room and basically charge boldly and said he
didn't give a damn about law laws or law people,
that he's going to make his own laws. He's gonna
make his own law people, and he's going to take
charge of this country and turn it or all around.

(58:13):
A lot of folks got real scared because they don't
want thing to change. Other folks got real happy about
what's going to happen. But either sad reality is that
all that he plans to do is only going to
destroy this country to begin with. And it shows you,
It shows you two things. One, bellionaires became bigionaires by
keeping everybody else poor. Yes, and they have no sense

(58:34):
of humanity right now, you see them right now, They're
all lining up behind him, sucking up, sucking up to him.
So if he's if he's beingaires are sucking up to Trump,
and he's he is emotionally damaged to begin with, then
you must be thinking, well, then damn. They must be
worried about losing their money, because if he gets someone
in here who's basically a humanitarian in thought at least

(58:57):
indeed as well, then we're gonna have to start paying
more taxes and have to support people and give people
raises and what have you. So you know, it's sad,
and I believe I have empathy towards senior military officers
because they have to make a decision. Are they going
to support the constitution? Are they're going to support an unhinged, unstable, coward, coward,

(59:19):
draft dodging idiot.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah. And then when you talk about he said, what
does he know?

Speaker 6 (59:27):
He doesn't, and and and the last and now report
that that you're hearing he's talking on his private phone
getting you know, putting the troops in in danger. He doesn't,
and and and and and and and they've been playing
like twenty sixteen when he said, well, troops, are I'm
supposed to do unlawful law? See they're showing his video

(59:48):
where he's talked about that. Then they're not supposed to
do unlawful. But now he's changed, and I'm like you
Dot Harper, you're you're, you're, you're bumming these people coming
keeping out. Then they bombed the last boat. Two survivors
still were on there. That's exactly right.

Speaker 10 (01:00:07):
And they're claiming because I just read a piece, because
you know, the Admiral is going to in front of
a private committee to jaycy right exactly, and he's already
got his story history was that was his story. Is
they believe that the two people that were clinging to
the boat right were still trying to communicate with their
other other other drug lord partners who are in the

(01:00:27):
in the area. Now keep in mind, if your fishing
boat or you're even your speed boat, yes it's hit
by a missile, I don't think you've got radio communications
still still there. If you're hanging on to the ship,
a piece of the ship, I don't think that you're
trying to communicate with your buddies. Come on maybe fifty
miles away to come and get you so you can

(01:00:48):
continue to fight or continue to take drugs to some
other country exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
That was even the case. But you know this is
the lot that they're going to put forth.

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
This admiral here is a guy that has all kinds
of accolades, So I mean, he's not gonna risk his career.
But by the same token as all military people out there,
and know, whenever your boss, who is over everything, is
in trouble, your job is to fall on the sword,
which means you gotta take it for him. Wow, you

(01:01:15):
gotta take it for your boss. You fall on the sword.
We'll see what he does today. He's already got his
lade together that he knew that they were gonna gonna
continue to engage in military combat or continue this partacular behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But no, that ain't gonna float.

Speaker 10 (01:01:32):
Right if you bomb my ship, I don't think I
got radio communications still up and up and running exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Come on, come on, all right, I'm going to our
phone line to talk with you. W D I a
high caller. Hey chaplain commings? How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Just yes, sir, yes, sir, Doctor Harbert.

Speaker 15 (01:01:55):
I was just gonna be very short.

Speaker 12 (01:01:56):
I was I will.

Speaker 20 (01:02:00):
Of the day, had a lot of bedrooms, we went
out to have meals and everything. I had never seen
in all of my time in the Navy and have retired,
I'm eight of seven now, I have never seen such
a summer group of men and women who was on
active duty, who actually did things. There was no joy

(01:02:20):
and it was like it all that mooted conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
And because I'm thinking too, you know, you know I
almost integrated a Navy baller technicians. There were none for
the man crew. I never had three black men, but
doctor Hopplin.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
That had bothered me.

Speaker 15 (01:02:38):
Ever since that day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
And I thought about that those men, and I know
some of them, one of them was a pilot and
other things, and nobody said a word. Now the general
public was having a good time. They didn't realize how
some we were so but I just wanted to bring
that out and let you know that it affects us too,
and lists of people who have retired. I told the
Vietnam yes, yes, my goodness, and and here here blown

(01:03:03):
out the crack rib. This is my life and so
you know, but anyway, I just want to bring it
up to people, letting people know we're well aware. We
just don't know what to do if we adnything we
all we can do is pray, and don't when we
get a chance to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
That's exactly right. Thank you doctor, Thank you Chaplain commers
appreciate you. W d I a high caller?

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You know my voice? Okay? How are you doing?

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Doctor Hobbler?

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Doing fine? Brother?

Speaker 12 (01:03:41):
Hey doctor Hobber Bill, you know a good conversation.

Speaker 9 (01:03:50):
Let me give you my take on it all.

Speaker 12 (01:03:51):
I'm giving my chick on Irby real quick. But because
I know the Bible is a living book with me, y'all,
it's a living book, and it's a book of prophecy. Okay.
And in the latter days, the Most High he pays
these nations back for how they treated his children when

(01:04:18):
he put us on punishment for four hundred years. I
want y'all to understand that by my thinking, because the
understanding that the Bible has given me, by knowing that
it's talking about us. So you know what the prophets
were saying towards the latter days, and we are at
that time right now. Or do what we're seeing right

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now with America and all of these teens that Donald
Trump is doing. This is all payback. This is the
beginning of the fall of this whole thing with Venezuela. See,
we have to understand that the Venezualans, what they did
to Hebrew Israelites coming out of bag that had colonies

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over here. All all of this, y'all, is paid back
that the most H's doing while we okay, in our cities,
we're we're doing our our problems with crime. We got
our problems to as a people. But we're God's people
and right now, like I share, and I shared, I
love doctor Harper because I do believe Bell.

Speaker 15 (01:05:25):
We all need to just take a.

Speaker 12 (01:05:26):
Look at what I'm saying. We are in covenant as
a people and in these lands days, y'all, we really
need to know are those people over there saying that
they're us, are they really the people? Well, well we
all know, peace folsts be in the land. All of
those kinds of things. These are the things that I

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am gonna continue out of love just to share because
how really you got this? Is it?

Speaker 15 (01:05:53):
So right now?

Speaker 12 (01:05:56):
This is where it is because we all are trying
to uh making right now. And just like COVID was
shut down for three months and a whole bunch of
lives were lost. They're gonna do this thing again, y'all.
They're gonna do it again where they they being fit
and catch us off guard and we won't be It'll

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be bad. That's what a National guard is real thinking about.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
I'm not getting long.

Speaker 15 (01:06:21):
You welcome, that's my.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Well, you welcome, big kahuna w d I a high caller.

Speaker 15 (01:06:31):
Hello are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I'm doing well today.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
And you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
I'm doing great good. They turned this radio down carry
out you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
But how you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
King well? You know you know I hit a backstret
so with this weather, it's been real rough. No, oh, Harry,
oh be careful, brother, h But I was talking about
one thing about the Orange Man. Why are people want
to bothe of them because they want to stay in slavery.

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You sick, both were sick. They want to stay in slavery.
I mean because you're at that project twenty twenty five
when he kept lying, said he didn't do it, everything
almost everything on there. He's already just to hero and
the other story. But when you were talking about people
don't like to hear the truth, right, you know that
the kid had just got forty years yesterday. He killed

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that other guy because he didn't want him to tell
that he was gay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, people, the truth hurts. But hey, guy,
come on out with it. Take care of you something.
And I'm giving you a big trophy queen for what
you did earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
All right, we'll just say, okay, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
I was going to ask you so, so, you know,
we were talking with doctor Harper about you know, all
these unlawful you know, illegal strikes, strikes and and but
but giving unlawful orders and and you've been in the military,
you you're supposed to follow the orders.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
Right exactly, But the orders that he's given, it is not.
It's not protecting us, it's making it worse.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
There.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Yes, coming here to the city president, first thing, he says,
I'm going to send the cup to the city and
a lot of guards are saying, why am I going
to kill my own people? That is exactly what it is.
He don't care. And he also said that uh what
I called him Nichell, Yeah, he Chake or whatever his
name is. He also he said that in the future,

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if you can't you can't wear a beard, can't have
a uh profile. The majority of the people that have
it is brown and black.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
So he wants a white arm, he wants a white military.
If you want to do it, let him do it.
And then their parents be hollow when they get killed.
And that's why all these big generals when he had
that thing over in Virginia, a lot of them they
about retired. A lot of them retired. It's I'm off
him put up with this question because he don't know
what he's doing. He was a NAS reguard, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
But he's know what. He's a kid doing that because
he's a drunk. And he's a pedophile too. I leave
you with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I hear you, I hear you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Good job him, I thank Harry.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (01:09:17):
So so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
The military, you're supposed to follow orders, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
But and and what I understand the concert you're not
supposed to follow ill legal orders.

Speaker 10 (01:09:30):
And see, I was never taught in boot camp when
I was first enlisted, nor as an officer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
What is an illegal order? That was now okay, you
never learned that.

Speaker 10 (01:09:43):
It may have been said in passing, okay, but believe me,
I don't recall ever hearing anyone teach me what an
illegal order. Is what I was taught in boot camp
is that you follow every order that you get. Okay, okay.
And as an officer, you know, it may have been
a class where they talked about that, but by the
same who knows what illegal orders are?

Speaker 21 (01:10:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
If you're in a combat situation, what is illegal order? Yeah, okay?

Speaker 10 (01:10:08):
Can you kill everybody? He said, no, you can't do that,
you know, matter of fact. And I can't remember all
the details, but the Secretary of Defense was that. He
said that when he was in his book, he said
something about how they brought a lawyer in to talk
about this whole issue, right, how a lawyer basically said,
if someone is holding a particular weapon and what have you,
and they're looking at you with that weapon and this

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is the enemy, what would you do? And all the
people in the audience said, you kill him? And the
lawyer said, no, you cannot kill him unless he points
the weapon at you. Headset said he took his troops
out of that particular meeting and took them aside and said, look,
anytime somebody got a weapon, you kill him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Wow. Period. So that's where his mentality is. I see.
That's the same with Trump.

Speaker 10 (01:10:51):
The idea is that you can just kill off everything
as opposed to negotiating anything. Now, now keep in mind, also,
why are we so concerned out the boats coming out
of benin a wait?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
That's what the question I've been asking. Why are we
so concerned about that?

Speaker 10 (01:11:05):
Two things, America wants to invade Venezuela to get to
get the oil and other minerals. Number two, we don't
want to touch the white boys who are who are
making all the money in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
This country off these drugs.

Speaker 10 (01:11:15):
You and I both know we ain't buying off no
boat from Venezuela marijuana or or any kind of drugs.
China sitting and all kinds of stuff. And in Venezuela
and the South, America's got people who are bringing that
stuff in, but black folks. Usually when they talk about
a rate not a race world we talk about the
war on drugs, they usually arrest the people who are
pushing the drugs on the corner, right, They're don't arrest

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the white guys, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Who bringing them in by boat or by playing and
what have you.

Speaker 10 (01:11:39):
So believe me, you know, if you're really going to
stop drug use, you have to basically cut off the supply,
but you also have to fix the people at who
are damaged by the use of drugs itself and or
put them where they need to get some help.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
WU d I a high caller. I'm doing fine, Prince
of the Charles. How are you today?

Speaker 22 (01:12:02):
I'm on the top chelf.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
And how you doing?

Speaker 22 (01:12:03):
Doctor Harper?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Great?

Speaker 22 (01:12:06):
Great both to hear your vote. Hey, Beth, I know
this is our type of weather, but it's started drizzling
down here, so just be very extra careful driver and
those of YouTube Doctor Hopper. Okay, good afternoon to your
cools and your listeners of the Doctor Harper. If we could,
I want to piggyback because I wrote some things down
when we were talking.

Speaker 15 (01:12:27):
I want to pig it back.

Speaker 22 (01:12:27):
I was in the military for eight years, three honorable discharges,
and whatever order was passed down, whether it was right
or wrong. Being an n CEO, if that person was
over me, we could not contest it after the fact,
whether it was right or wrong. Bes and there's those

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kind of things that we didn't have we could lean on, say,
for example, Dr Harper, it's my superior and he gave
me and I knew it was wrong. We still had
to do it, but we had the opportunity to come
back to UH to protest it, or if not, you
get an l O R let, a reprimand or discharge

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or even put place place in jail what we called
the brigs. Docco Happer, My question to you, when was
it not reasonable for a person with less rank.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Than you to the not on order?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
When was it not reasonably?

Speaker 9 (01:13:27):
Said?

Speaker 12 (01:13:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:13:29):
When was it not right?

Speaker 22 (01:13:31):
For You're talking to me, I'm under your command and
under said and I knew that was not wrong. I
knew that was wrong, but I still had to follow
your command regardless.

Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
Well, you know, if if, if, if, if things went
wrong and you found yourself in at a court martial,
they would basically say you had a right to basically
not go along with that, with that order because because
you thought, you said already you thought that maybe it
was not the right thing to do, so there basically
pin it back on you one way or the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Other exactly, that's right, no, no, no, please, yeah. But
still the bottom line is that is that the same
eyes over in me.

Speaker 10 (01:14:10):
Like with Lieutenant Kelly when he ordered his people to
kill everybody in the village, I'm sure that many of
those soldiers over there thought this is a crazy thing
to do, you know. But see they blamed it on
the fact that that they had a lot of people
who have been murdered or killed the battles prior to
that particular day, and that they wanted they came into
that that that particular village would revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (01:14:34):
But by the same token, people are going to have
to stand up to this government, particularly the head said,
when he starts ordering people to do things which you
know at some level can't be right. Now you're ready
for the consequence you could have to.

Speaker 22 (01:14:49):
That's exactly what I'm about to say, because I if
I disobeyed Bell Johnson's order, she's my superior. For you're
my superior. It's telling how water to pay, even if
I know it's wrong. They didn't teach like you said,
doctor Harper. They did not teach us to diss They
taught us to follow a direct order from your superior
and move forward.

Speaker 15 (01:15:10):
You have to deal with that later. Now.

Speaker 22 (01:15:12):
When I was old in desert Shire, Desert Storm, I
knew there were tons of order that was given to
me that was wrong, but I had to abide buy
them Bell because they came from a higher person than me. Now,
if I was the higher person in that platoon or
that group, then I would use some type of judgement.

Speaker 15 (01:15:29):
But doctor Harper, even you must know this.

Speaker 22 (01:15:33):
You know, like they said in that book, I'm trying
to think of the other everything that's parent love war.
Now we talked about you just talked about just a
moment ago, the civilians that was well, the drug traffickers
were the two that was left clinging to the ship.
But Bell, I'm just going to say it like this
and the war, we're not taking any prisoners. And doctor

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Harper could attested it if he liked, because if they
had caught us, they would have did atrocious things to
doctor Harper and I and trust me, it was not
going to be pretty. So in a war, Bev, you
have to send a message that you're not playing.

Speaker 12 (01:16:08):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:16:08):
The last and final thing I want.

Speaker 22 (01:16:10):
To say to doctor Harper is and you about this
that people may understand the reason why, in my humble opinion,
that the United States is going out of Venezuela, because
these are countries that don't have nuclear capabilities. Like you
stated a moment ago, China been sending these drugs over
and nothing has been said about it. They went and

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talked to them, show Kun. They they had lunch together,
but they hadn't They hadn't did anything major to China
to send off the binding off over here, and they
still spending it today from the other countries. I just
have to question Bell Josey Russia versus Ukraine. Why is Ukraine?
Why did Russia valley Ukraine because they do not have

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any nuclear capability? Why is the United States going to
want to start a ward? But it's where because they
have no nuclear capability in the United States, though any
other of the eight or nine countries out there that
got nuclear capabilities will not go toe to toe with
another country that got nuclear capabilities. But that's just my

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take on it. Because they know they got the upper
hand on it. It's always failed in doctor Harper's not talking.
Which I want you guys to have a beautiful, blessed,
safe and healthy day and stay warm and dry.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Careful YouTube Prince thank you w D I a high caller.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
Good after him my most beautiful accident. How are you
doing today, sus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
I'm doing well today, my brother, how are you?

Speaker 23 (01:17:38):
Oh, my sister, I'm holding that's where I am hold.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
On, good afternoon, doctor, what's their brother?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
David?

Speaker 15 (01:17:47):
Let me turn that.

Speaker 23 (01:17:48):
Down because I'm a fan of talk radio, and I
actually more than hearing my own self talk, I like
to hear what the talk the other callers have to
say too. In any case, first, let me say this
a little bit off topic, but actually important. If you
had not seen ken Burn's treatment of the Revolutionary War

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Radio Land, please go buy PBS to view it and
in fact study it. It's an extraordinary peace that does
not sugarcoat or make white folks comfortable about how this
country was founded and the blood that was shed neighbor
to neighbor and brother to brother. You can go to
PBS dot org, and last I checked, you can still

(01:18:35):
stream it for free. But I tell you, Doc, we
thank the Civil War of which this country. That wasn't
the first time neighbor and neighbor and brother and brother
killed each other.

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
That wasn't the first this country has a history of that.

Speaker 23 (01:18:51):
Now to the topic, Doc Bell, where you find a racist,
you'll find a sexist. And when you find a sextor,
you'll find a homo. And where you find a hog
on fold, you will find a zeno fold. And has
anyone of you ever heard of Errol.

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Musk, Earl Musk.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
Er Musk has I the want if you heard of him.

Speaker 23 (01:19:15):
No, Errol Musk is the father of Elon Musk, and
what he has stated about the Teacher of America when
white people become the minority, the whole country is going
quote back to the jungle unquote. And this was doing

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an interview on CNN. Is posted on MSN dot com.
And he had some other things to say in a
CNN interview, he bristled at the demographic projections. Doing a
conversation with cons Fund and Donnie O'Sullivan for the upcoming.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
Special Missed Info Nation co White genocide.

Speaker 23 (01:20:02):
When told the US is expected to become a minority
white nation within two decades, must push back aggressively, warned
it would.

Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
Be a very very bad thing to happen.

Speaker 23 (01:20:13):
He argued such a shift with Cina America quote unquote down,
questioning why anyone would want that. You don't like technology,
he acts, you want to go back to the jungle.
In the episode of Southern examines why the idea of
a supposed white genocide in South Africa has gained such
traction among some Americans who fill the Democrat demographic shifts

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that could soon make white people a minority in the
United States. The claim has even influenced you as politics
with doctor President Trump, it is a reason to offer
refuge gee statists to white South African pres Berga on
whether he truly believes the country would collapse the white
felt below fifty percent must double down quote of course,

(01:20:58):
he replied, if you take South Africa, we have a
small white population that projects European culture what we learned
from your Europe. So the point here is that Elion
mess must his son is oh.

Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
And by the way, to shaty know who he was.

Speaker 23 (01:21:20):
He also aero must impregnated his stepdaughter, who was it
with two children after being married to her mother. H yeah, right,
that sounds like some stuff to me, some six stuff
to me. But anyway, I digret. Elon must Have is

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projected to the world's first tree now and asked us
I forget what the date is. But he's responsible for
hard work and governmental employees live with those, especially black women,
who happened to be the most loyal of Democratic voters
of non white supporters by far, and maybe the most
lawyer among women.

Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
If y'all think some of y'all.

Speaker 23 (01:22:03):
I know you don't think, Doc, and I know Bell,
but you folks out here being comfortable with folks calling
this black radio station, black formatic radio station supporting a
man who's the father of the father, the son who's
become the richest person in America and who, by the way,
has a footprint and a majority black, poor city.

Speaker 15 (01:22:25):
My fist started, city council.

Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
I hear you, I hear you, loud and clear.

Speaker 23 (01:22:29):
If y'all that comfortable the man, y'all more than sleep
y'all on drugs, y'all on some kind of stuff that
what never you would never wake you to understand why
this is being done.

Speaker 16 (01:22:40):
This is about twenty forty five, Docs, that's what all.

Speaker 8 (01:22:44):
This is about forty five in.

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
Which they're projected.

Speaker 23 (01:22:48):
White people are projected to be the minority in this
country and by any means necessary, but hook up, crook.

Speaker 8 (01:22:58):
They're trying to make sure or that that does not happen.

Speaker 16 (01:23:02):
That's right, and we and we and we're not even
ready for war, y'all not he's white folks.

Speaker 15 (01:23:09):
Seriously, HM, I don't understand what more?

Speaker 23 (01:23:14):
What more does Trump have to do when he says
that he ain't got no problem.

Speaker 8 (01:23:19):
Solving the baby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (01:23:23):
What morning does he have to do.

Speaker 8 (01:23:26):
To alliance?

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:23:28):
Right?

Speaker 20 (01:23:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
On that right now? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:23:37):
I mean oh oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
By the way, do y'all remember when he said I'm
when he when we called.

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
Him a racist? Oh, I'm the least racist person you
ever tried.

Speaker 11 (01:23:44):
What hell?

Speaker 8 (01:23:45):
I don't know any day racist? If you lead racist?
Right man, man, we better wake up and know what's up. Yeah,
enjoy your holiday, enjoy your family. But brother, they ain't sleeping.
They not sleeping. They want you to sleep. They were
the safely? Why they why they at work?

Speaker 23 (01:24:03):
And everything he has said has been a lot. And
I'm sick of people calling this radio station defending.

Speaker 8 (01:24:09):
A liar, a liar.

Speaker 23 (01:24:12):
I'm Christian, unreligious, don't believe in God, didn't believe said
he doesn't believe that he's even going to heaven, and
you still support him talking about God.

Speaker 8 (01:24:21):
Centerm God don't send people to go to hell.

Speaker 15 (01:24:25):
They make that decision for themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:24:28):
Have a good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I love it. W D I a high caller.

Speaker 13 (01:24:35):
Hey, good afternoon, bath.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
How you doing I'm doing well today? Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 13 (01:24:42):
Well good This is reader and I'm just so thankful
that I doctor Harper Day.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
I call it Harper Day.

Speaker 9 (01:24:48):
Yeah, I'm listening.

Speaker 13 (01:24:52):
And the collar that was just I didn't catch his
name before before me. Absolutely all points. And if we
think about what's happening with the military, the things that
the Department of Defense or war whatever, they're trying to
eradicate the black people, the black military people, because they're

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testing this to see when they give these orders, the
black might hesitate because their orders are going to come
through to kill them. That's the that's their final solution.
I you know, sometimes I feel like I'm going left sometimes,

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but I'm looking at what's going on. That's why they're
trying to trim this military, get the blacks out, because
of the orders that they are thinking about. They're they're
planning it now. They're planning it now, and I don't know.
And my my thing about every black person, a person

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of color that went in there and voted for that man,
they are they are responsible for some of the murders
that's coming through, and they're gonna come. They are going
to come. And I look at I look at the
news and I look at social media. It's like these
people are not paying they been playing another zone on
another planet. They're not paying attention to anything. They still

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talk about they man, it's not trying to get their man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 13 (01:26:29):
That that's just in for today, doctor Harper. I hope
people pay attention to what David said, and and you're
coming pay attention to what they're doing with this military,
because they're going to use the military a guest Americans.
They have they have a plan in mind, of course

(01:26:49):
they do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 13 (01:26:52):
So that that's that's my that's my that's my tirade
for today. But constantly thinking, I'm constantly thinking, I thank
you all so much and bless you Dot J.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Harpert, thank you Rita.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
All right, right, bye bye, we'll continue our session when
we come back, doctor Harper, he will continue his last
our nurses professional or not. The further attack on American
women by the mister dogist Donald Trump. Yes, we'll talk
about that with doctor Warren. Harper's coming up next, so

(01:27:24):
stay tuned for that. Nine zero one five three, five,
nine three four two eight hundred and five zero three
nine three four to two eight three three five three
five nine three four two will get you in to us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Let me say happy Birthday to Clyde.

Speaker 6 (01:27:41):
Happy Birthday, Clyde. Hope you have a good day to day.
Go out and celebrate your life. Happy Birthday, Clyde. I
wanted to get that in. And also our Happy Founder's
Day to the men of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Doctor Harper.
They were founded on this day in nineteen o six,

(01:28:02):
set seven black educated men from Cornell University. Yeah, so
Happy Founder's Day to the men of Alpha Phi Alpha
Fraternity incorporated that fraternity. My dad was a part of
that fraternity. He went over at lamorn On College. Alpha
Phi Alpha be founded today, brothers. Hope you have a

(01:28:25):
great day to day. Well, come back with more doctor
Warren Harper and me Bev Johnson on the Bev Johnson
Show on w d IA.

Speaker 17 (01:28:43):
Wishing you and yours a merry Christmas and happy Holidays
from the Bev Johnson Show and w DA.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
You're listening to the Bev Johnson Show. Here's Bev Johnson
and we're back.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
With doctor Warren Harper as he talks about our nurses
professional or not, the further attack on American women by
the misogynist Donald Trump and hold on, callers, get to you.

Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
Go on, doctor Harper, Okay, first, let me define misogynists.
It is a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly
prejudiced against women. A recent proposal regarding a rule change
by the Department of Education would exclude nursing from its
federal definition of professional degree programs for the purpose of
student loan eligibility. Simply stated, under the new proposal, nursing

(01:30:16):
programs will no longer be on the list of federally
recognized professional degrees. The change is expected to have significant
financial implications for graduate students in nursing, as it will
lower borrowing limits for federal loans. The Trump administration plans
to redefine what constitutes a professional degree. Would it exclude

(01:30:36):
nursing and limit access to student loans, which has left
nursing students questioning how they will pay for their graduate degrees. Previously,
graduate programs could borrow federal loans up to the cost
of the degree, but under the new proposal, there would
be a cap or caps on loans based on whether
the students are enrolled in a program that is considered

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professional or not. Students ed programs will now be capped
at twenty thousand, five hundred dollars per year loans with
a lifetime limit of one hundred thousand dollars. But for
students seeking a professional degree, loan limits are higher at
fifty thousand dollars per year with a lifeline lifetime limit
of two hundred thousand. So who does the Department of

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Education determined to be professional degrees which includes pharmacy, dentistry,
veterinary medicine, chiropractic law, regular medicine, optometry, osteopathic medicine for
dietary and theology interesting theology.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
In reaction to this.

Speaker 10 (01:31:41):
Absurd change, the American Nurses Association said that this will
severely restrict access to critical funding for nurses or for
students who wish to seek an advanced nursing degree. But
for many, this policy means that pursuing a master or
doctor degree will be more difficult. Association of Colleges of
Nursing put out a statement noting that their organization is

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quote deeply concerned by the Department of Education's decision to
move forward with a proposed definition of professional degree programs
that excluded nursing and significantly limits student loan access. Despite
broad recognition of the complexity, rigor, and necessity of post
baccaloria nursing education. The Department's proposal defines professional programs so

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narrowly that nursing the nation's largest health care profession, remains excluded. Again,
Rump goes after women after he demeans and degrades them,
as he continues to do to women news reporters who
ask legitimate questions which he is too ignorant to answer.
He also hates black women in particular and wants to

(01:32:51):
retaliate against them in many ways, in many way that
he can, such as firing over three hundred thousand of
them from federal jobs. But what do you expect to
see in the president who has a low IQ and
an even lower appreciation of women?

Speaker 6 (01:33:05):
So wow, and so doctor Harper, and they won't get
rid of the Department of Education.

Speaker 10 (01:33:12):
And that's something, right, Yeah, get rid of it. Turn
it over to the state again. Yeah, okay, remember that. Yeah,
let's see, that's when that's when we got books in
my in my under in my grade school class that
came from the white neighborhood first, right, then we got
the books later.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yeah, that's when we didn't have.

Speaker 10 (01:33:28):
Good schools and good good teachers because they weren't paying
black teachers that much, and come on, we can't do
that again.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
I know, I know. I'm going to our phone lines
to talk with you. Thank you all for waiting.

Speaker 24 (01:33:39):
Hi, K hey, how you all doing to go?

Speaker 7 (01:33:43):
We do it?

Speaker 19 (01:33:43):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
We okay, I just I want to say.

Speaker 11 (01:33:46):
This one thing, New World Order, forget about it. We
are we are living in a book of revelation. Revelation
eighteen asked when it's coming, and we may prepare ourselves
for to get ourselves together with close had because I
don't care what anybody planning to do for somebody else.
Only gonna be done is your Lord willowed to be done.

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It's just like we're wasting our time, we wasting our imergry.
We said the same thing, Trump, Trump, Trump and the Trump.
I think the Trumpets had been blown you think so,
doctor Hopper.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Listen, they've they've been blown for for years.

Speaker 10 (01:34:21):
Even before Trump came, the Trump the Trumpets were blowing
about racial genocide.

Speaker 11 (01:34:27):
That's right, that's right, that's right. Okay, Well, we don't
have a blessed I'm you two, K.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Thank you, k KP.

Speaker 8 (01:34:36):
Hey, brother, Hey Bill, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 12 (01:34:40):
In you?

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
Oh, I'm doing all right.

Speaker 15 (01:34:43):
It's Bell.

Speaker 8 (01:34:44):
Thank you, thank you the Queen, thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:34:48):
Doctor.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
How how you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
I'm fine, brother, all.

Speaker 21 (01:34:51):
Right, brother, I marry you, doctor Hope. You always have
come with knowledge, and I marry you for that knowledge
you give us. But and thank you, sir. Okay, what
I really wanted to say is concerning you know, the
topic is that you know, this is the time in

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which we're living in and uh, we got to stay
prayed up because we're living in some trial time with
this system that's trying to develop, uh the Mega Movement
all that, you know, we we we got them stay
prayed up because I just moved back here to Memphis

(01:35:35):
and living living in different cities.

Speaker 8 (01:35:37):
I mean it is bad.

Speaker 21 (01:35:38):
I was at a place and I had went back
there and I was working out in the city and
I was only it was about two or three blacks.
But the other you know, people, they let you know
how they feel, you know what I mean, And and
you know you can't you just have to. I couldn't
run from the problem, but I did let them know. Look,

(01:36:02):
uh uh it's a I'm I'm I'm entitled of this.
I'm entiedus to come in here and work out too.
You know, but the racism is everywhere.

Speaker 12 (01:36:13):
Yeah, with with the.

Speaker 21 (01:36:15):
President that we have, with the man that's in office now,
I mean, you know, he what can I say if
I ain't then said they even really said it all?

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Yes he did, he did.

Speaker 15 (01:36:28):
Dave said it all.

Speaker 21 (01:36:29):
Because we are in a time in which the devil
is busy and he don't care.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
Who is you, my mama? You say, he wagging his tail?
He just we just he'said wagging his tail.

Speaker 21 (01:36:40):
All around and that man. But uh, you know you
read what you so. So I'm not gonna teach y'all
unless somebody else get in here. But there, thank you
and harb also.

Speaker 15 (01:36:53):
Thank you, sir, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
And w D I a high caller.

Speaker 13 (01:36:59):
Hey that afternoon, and bear of how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
I'm doing well, Beverly? How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 24 (01:37:05):
I'm telling doctor hofferin is always such a pleasure when
you're home the air.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
And I was waiting for you to call too.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
Yeah you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Nurse Beverly, because he just got to talk about they
want to get rid of the nurses.

Speaker 24 (01:37:21):
Yeah, you know, you know, I'm fighting man.

Speaker 13 (01:37:24):
Look, you know what I may not quote is right,
but you're not that the scripture in the Bible.

Speaker 24 (01:37:29):
What the devil was asked, where have you been?

Speaker 7 (01:37:33):
And he says something to the fact, I've been rolling
around seeking whom I can diviw you used to be
with that. That's Donald Trump.

Speaker 24 (01:37:43):
That's Donald Trump, up all night while everybody else is
sleeping and trying to think who keeps keeping her?

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
The man is definitely the money. He is definitely a
bad seed from conception. From conception, he's a bad seed.
Look he felt understand that we as nurses. Nursing school
is no joke.

Speaker 19 (01:38:15):
I remember sitting up all night long, all night working
on my assignments that I needed to do and to
be ready to be on the floor at six forty
five the next morning for my my chemicals.

Speaker 13 (01:38:36):
We have to be the eyes and the ears for patients.

Speaker 19 (01:38:42):
The doctors they come in, they make their rounds, they
be in there with the patient fifteen to ten minutes,
they're gone.

Speaker 24 (01:38:50):
We are there where the ones have to keep an eye.
We're on the patients.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
Where are the ones who have to detect from a
patients status is changing and notify the doctor. We are
the angels over the patients with the physical, you know,
not the spirituals with the physical angel, so to speak,
because we watch over the patients and we have to.

Speaker 9 (01:39:17):
Know what we are doing.

Speaker 19 (01:39:20):
So for him to make a statement like that, I mean,
you know, he's got the means where if he's there
in the hospital or his family or in the hospital,
you know, he's got people.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 24 (01:39:33):
I guess he can have a doctor to sit at
his bedside or his doctor's bedside, because he may not
want a nurse feel like she's not there, she's not
competent enough. He can afford to do that, but most
people they don't have that luxury, so they are in
the hands of the nurses who are there twenty for seven,

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rotating ships, rotating ships being there but the eye and
ears covering the patients and the doctor's absence.

Speaker 19 (01:40:04):
So he's just a molawn.

Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
He says something stupid and evil every day. That's all
he does is to think of things to insult and
hurt people, right, So that's just my taste.

Speaker 24 (01:40:17):
You know, I'm mad.

Speaker 11 (01:40:18):
You know, I'm mad, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Good Man.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
All right, Beverly, enjoy this day. You all you two
say bye bye.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
Bye bye, and doctor Harper before we get out of here.
This email one told me to ask you, and please
ask doctor Harper, what proactive options can we use as.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Black people in this ever rising fascist country.

Speaker 10 (01:40:43):
Well, the first thing you do is you turn off
you turn off this social media that basically is is
brainwashing all of us to to to be terrified of
opposing things which are out to destroy us. Next, we
need to start forming together in terms of groups of
people who are who are thinking like we're thinking, in
regard to how are we going to how we're going
to defend ourselves as both legally politically, socially physically, how

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we're going to defend ourselves from what is coming up next,
and hopefully that that unity within the community will give
us an opportunity for immunity at least for a while,
until we can get our asses together in terms of
bringing people more people together to fight this person, not
only from a voting standpoint, but also getting ready to

(01:41:29):
get in the streets and having to do the same
thing there as well. It's not a healthy thing to advocate,
but at some point when when when you see a
gun to your head, you're going to have to figure
out whether or not you're going to take a bullet
or go get you a gun too. Now I have
six little stories with lots of meaning, sent to me
by doctor Guy Seymour brother who was one of my mentors,

(01:41:52):
who's now an ancestor.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
It's very short. Number one.

Speaker 10 (01:41:56):
Once all villagers decided to pray for rain. On the
day of prayer, all the people gathered, only one boy
came with an umbrella.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
That is faith. When you throw babies in the air,
they laugh because they know you will catch them. That
is trust.

Speaker 10 (01:42:13):
Every night we go to bed without any assurance of
being alive the next morning, but still we set the
alarms to wake us up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
That is hope.

Speaker 10 (01:42:22):
We plan big things for tomorrow in spite of zero
knowledge of the future. That is confidence. We see the
world's suffering, but still we get married and have children.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
That is love.

Speaker 10 (01:42:34):
An old man's shirt was written a sentence quote, I
am not eighty years old. I am sweet sixteen with
sixty four years of experience. That is attitude. We all
have a birth of blessed day.

Speaker 6 (01:42:48):
Doctor Warren Harper, our behavior political health consultant. Look forward
to the next time Doctor Harper here at WDIA.

Speaker 10 (01:43:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
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Speaker 6 (01:43:17):
Yeah, thank you, Thank you listeners for joining us this
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Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
We do, we really do appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
So until tomorrow, please be safe, keep a cool head, y'all,
don't let anyone steal your joy. Until tomorrow, I'm Beb
Johnson and y'all keep the faith.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
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