Trump Contagion with Dr. Warren Harper

The Psychology of Trump Contagion: A Threat to American Democracy and HumanKind with Psychologist and Mental Health Specialist Dr. Warren Harper.

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(05:17):
Harper is back in the house. Good morning, doctor Harper.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Good morning, bab, and good morning to the listening audience.
I'm doing fine. You know, it's a little bit nippy
outside today. You know, you know I like this sele weather,
doctor Harper. I said, I'm with him south side of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
When I woke up this morning, that's all right too,
that's all right. You know we had a beautiful sunshine.
It's a beautiful day in Memphis, Tennessee. And the weather
it's it's fall weather. H about time, about time, about time,
about time. Well, I'm glad to have you back, doctor Harvey.
Folks been missing you. I said, he's coming back. I'm coming.

(05:54):
That's right, that's right, well, doctor Harper. We are on
our topic of conversation part two today, the psychology of
the trunk contagion, a threat to American democracy and human kind.
I'm want to talk about before before let me say this.
You all know early voting has started, you know, with

(06:15):
doctor Harper, I was so glad yesterday. Yesterday was the
first day of early voting. Folks, in life, I'm never
early voting. You know, people don't go. You don't hear.
When I passed the little place I go to church
early voting, the parking lot is full. I saw the line.
Thank y'all get out and vote. And so if early

(06:39):
voting has lines, and if you're gonna wait, I know,
like people like to work, wait till the day of
election November fifth, y'all know it's gonna be lines there
there are lines now early voting. I love it, doctor Harper.
You see my little sticker where I voted. You voted day.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm not I'm not gonna wait for these people to
steal the election. No, because they're after it, believe me.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
And you know what, doctor Harper, I want to say this,
if one hundred year old President Jimmy Carter, who is
in hospice care, voted absent tea, he said he wanted
to vote, he wanted to vote in this. He is

(07:23):
one hundred years old under hospice care. Y'all. He did
an absent tea. Back he has voted in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
So what's the excuse for any other person not to
get off their rear end and do the same.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
He's one hundred and in hospice care. Come on, doctor Harper,
I hear you. Come on, y'all, come on now. And
he voted absent tea, So get your tails going. Is
that right, doctor Harpin? That's exactly right. Okay, all right,
doctor Harper, this morning, on our topic of convert, where

(08:00):
are you starting right at the top?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, I'm going to start off by reading several quotes
written by scholars. Scholars in the field of mental health.
The first quote was made by doctor Brandy Lee, president
of the World Mental Health Coalition and editor of her
first book, published in twenty seventeen, in title The Dangerous
Case of Donald Trump twenty seven Psychiatrists and Mental Health

(08:26):
Experts Assessed, which means evaluate a president unquote quote. She
starts off by saying Trump is a profoundly evil man
exhibiting malignant narcissism. His worsening hypomania is making him increasingly
more irrational, grandiose, paranoid, aggressive, irritable, and impulsive. Trump is bad, mad,

(08:49):
and getting worse. He evinces the most destructive and dangerous
collection of psychiatric symptoms possible for a leader. The worst
case scenario is now our reality. She goes on to say,
a paranoid, hypersensitive, grandiose, ill informed leaders such as Donald
Trump who has surrounded himself this is back in twenty seventeen,

(09:12):
who has surrounded himself with a cabinet instead of advisors
who either are unwilling to bring him out of his
paranoid suspicions and insistencies, or worse, they identify with his positions.
Then this represents a multi dimensional threat to our country.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And the world.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
She goes on to say, as he is unraveling, he
seems to be losing his grip on reality and reverting
to conspiracy theories. These are signs that he is going
into attack bold and when he is under stress. He
is a danger to national international security. His behaviors are
and listen to them, impulsivity, recklessness. He's delusional with paranoid ideation.

(09:52):
He has a loose grip on reality. He lacks a conscience,
lacks empathy, and exhibits rage reactions unquota. Three weeks ago,
the World Mental Health Coalition held a medical conference regarding
quote the more dangerous state of the world and the
need for fit leadership unquote. It was about a man
who has created what doctor Lee has come to call

(10:13):
Trump contagion. She stated, quote, we currently live in a
very dangerous world, and the mix of psychological dangerousness and
mental unfitness in a powerful office can only exponentially increase
the dangers. Hence, leading national security experts and renowned mental
health experts convened, which means come together, came together to

(10:36):
speak about the safeguarding of American democracy in all human kind. Next,
in a letter to the editor, of The New York Times,
written by doctor Larry S. Sandberg, who is a clinical
associate professor of psychiatry at Well Colonial Concumic Well Cornell
Cornell Medical Center and contributing author to quote the most

(10:57):
Dangerous Case of Donald Trump wrote on September twe which
is a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Ago that the National Press Club hosted.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
The conference focused on Donald Trump's dangerousness and lack of
fitness to serve as commander in chief. Policymakers, lawyers, and
mental health experts argued incontrovertibly that mister Trump is unfit.
He displays poor judgment, impulsivity, extreme self seneredis a vulnerability
to being manipulated, and ad attraction to autocrats.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
He is blatantly.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
He shows blatant signs of waning cognitive abilities and capacities.
In the same world, he goes on to say, all
of this world would be disqualifiing. At the same time,
mister Trump vehemously attacks his opponent Kamala Harris by calling
her mentally disabled and mentally impaired. By projecting onto her

(11:48):
the reality of his circumstance. Mister Trump is distorting reality
for public consumption and manipulation I urge. He says the
public to listen to experts who are ready dressing an
existential threat to our democracy in the world.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
These are not normal times.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
We should be voting based not only on policy issues,
as is typically the case, but also on a recognition
of what is at stake in this election.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Unquote.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Doctor Drew Weston, professor of psychology and psychiatry at Embray University,
provided his assessment of Trump, where he states that Trump
feels special, superior, or grand. Tends to blame his own
failures and shortcomings of other people or circumstances. Attributes his
own difficulties to external factors rather than accepting responsibility for

(12:36):
his action. Tends to be deceitful, to lie and mislead.
Tends to engage in unlawful and criminal behavior. When distressed.
His perception of reality can become grossly impaired. For example,
his thinking may be delusional. He seeks to be the
center of attention as little empathy. Tends to become irrational
when strong emotions are stirred. Takes advantage of others. He

(12:58):
has little investment in moral value, puts his own needs first,
uses or exploits people with little regard for their feelings
or welfare. Tends to get into power struggles, tends to
be unreliable. For example, he will not honor financial commitments.
He tends to show recklessnessregard for the rights, property, or safety.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Of other people.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Tends to treat others as an audience to witness his
own brilliance or important. Tends to have extreme reactions to
perceive slights or criticism. He may react with extreme rage
and experiences little or no remorse for injury cause to others.
The point is from these great experts, his mental faculties
are deteriorating, and he exhibits mental impairment and lack of

(13:41):
fitness to hold the office of president. Now for the
mega koops, it is you who want this kind of
person to be the national leader, to govern over people
of all ethnic and religious groups, and to have his
finger on the nuclear arsenal of this country.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
If any of you.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Make America hate again, say yes to this type of
person that you are as dangerous, misguided, delusional, and emotionally
unwell as he is. Several weeks ago, I introduced the
listening audience to an accomplished best selling author who was
also a forensic and social psychiatrist, a public health consultant,
and a faculty member in the Law and Psychiatry Division

(14:20):
of Yale School of Medicine.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Her first book was published.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
In twenty seventeen entitled The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump
to twenty seven psychiatrists and mental health experts Assessed a
President unquote, which spelled out how Donald Trump's mental impairment
and dangerous condition was more serious than people assumed, that
it would grow worse with actual power, and that he
would eventually become uncontainable. Her next book was entitled Profile

(14:46):
of a Nation, Trump's Mind America's Soul Quote, which came
out in twenty twenty in an effort to warn urgently
against the violence that would follow the twenty twenty elections
and the continuation of his presidency in the minds of
his followers whether or not Donald Trump was reelected. In addition,
she predicted she predicted that Donald Trump's psychological impairments will

(15:08):
likely cause him to refuse to conceive the twenty twenty
presidential election results, called the election of fraud, and refused
to leave office, which all came true. Her newest book,
entitled Quote, The Psychology of Trump contagion an extensional existential
threat to American democracy in all humankind unquote, is a
warning about Trump's rise to fascism, which she sees as

(15:32):
a mental illness, not just say political ideology. Doctor Lee
writes that it was the American Psychiatric Association who had
intervened aggressively along with the newspaper, which led to the
removal of not only her voice but those of her
expert colleagues. How do what is referred to as the
Goldwater Rule. I'll talk about this a little bit later.

(15:54):
In twenty seventeen, doctor Lee and her colleagues quote believed
that we, as mental health experts, had a special obligation
to warn the public that for mental health reasons, Donald
Trump posed a public health emergency that Donald Trump was
mentally unwell and should not have the office of the presidency.
But she was blocked from doing this by the American

(16:14):
Psychiatric Association, resulting in not alerting the public regarding the
unsafe nature of a Trump presidency. So the American people
had no psychological vaccination from his contagious lies and hypnotic
mind controled tactics that he uses to suck in his
prey and inject them with lies, deception, hate, retribution, and
white privilege for white folks only. So Trump contagion has

(16:38):
spread in millions of Americans are infected with his malignant, narcissistic,
sociopathic mindset, as noted by lawyer George Conway. Now keep
in mind that doctor Lee is also a forensic psychiatrist,
and she conducts mental health assessments to determine if someone
is too violent or dangerous to be released into society.

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And she, as well as twenty six seven other psychiatrists
and mental health experts, we're not able to inform the
public that Donald Trump was not fit to be in
the White House or to guide the nation in a
safe and say in the sane manner, as attested to
by almost all of his closest buyers pfizers while he
was in the White House, and by his chief of
staffs who are who are now supporting and voting for

(17:20):
Vice President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Let's stop right there, doctor Harper, take a break. Okay,
hold on, we are talking. If you've just tuned in
this day, doctor Warren Harper is here. Psychologists, mental health
specialist raceman. We're talking Part two, the psychology of Trump, contagion,
a threat to American democracy and humankind. We're talking this day.

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Trump contagion a threat to American democracy and human kind,
And we're talking with doctor Warren Harper. Doctor Harper, I'm
going to our phone lines. Thank you all for waiting.

Speaker 9 (21:23):
Hi, Beverly Pray, Good morning, Bath, Good morning, doctor Harper.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Good morning, Beverly.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
How are you.

Speaker 11 (21:31):
I'm doing good, Doctor Harper. Can you hear me or
key on the he can hear you? Okay, I welcome back.
I'm glad to hear you back and update.

Speaker 9 (21:44):
Us on things and just tell us what's really going
on with this person that's warning to be our president.
I want to say two things. Number One, I can
definitely see a decline in Doald Trump.

Speaker 11 (22:01):
I can see it in his cognition. I can see
it in his face.

Speaker 9 (22:08):
He doesn't look healthy and he doesn't speak and think healthy.
I mean, it was all this brook us about Joe
Biden's age and his mental capacity, but Don Trump is
getting into that same element. I mean, he is really, really,

(22:31):
really changing. There was a movie that came out last
Friday called The Apprentice, and it was a movie that
told about Donald Trump's earlier years and it told about
his relationship with his attorney name Roy Kohn co eight n.

Speaker 11 (22:55):
You can look it up people who've never.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
Heard of it.

Speaker 9 (22:58):
And he was one of the persons who grew Donald
Trump to be the evil, this honest, corrupt person that
he became. And when Roy Kombe brought him up through

(23:18):
the ranks, basically helped him to achieve all the wealth
and all the properties and all the connections with the
big people and everything.

Speaker 11 (23:29):
But when Roy Kombe.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Got sick on his deathbed, Donald Trump treated him like trash.
That's one of the things that sticks out in my
mind about that movie is how he turned on the
person who made him what he became in terms of

(23:51):
wealth and fact and being famous. Not only how he
mistreated the lawyer, but his first wife and other people
in his circle.

Speaker 13 (24:03):
I mean a monster, a monster.

Speaker 11 (24:05):
And I don't think this is fiction.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
This is not fiction that I believe it is true
because I looked read some stuff up in history and
it talks about his relationship with Roy con and also Beverly.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I saw the two I haven't seen the movie, but
the two actors who are playing that they talked about
this is true. It's a true story.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Man.

Speaker 11 (24:31):
It will really blow your mind. I thought the book.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
I read the book that his niece wrote, Mary Trump,
Enough is Never Enough, and I thought it was brutal.

Speaker 11 (24:42):
But this movie, I tell you, it's it's just I said,
he's got a lot to account for. Donald Trump has
a lot to account for.

Speaker 14 (24:51):
He really does.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
But you know, this leuct election is really important.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
And I see there's a lot of turnout, you know,
and it's.

Speaker 11 (25:00):
Days who've already started with early voting. And I'm praying
that that's.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
A good sign because there's no way we can allow
Donald Trump to get back in office. And the people
that support him, I've heard that people have walked out
of his rallies because he gets up there and rambles
and rambles and don't make anything, and they walk out.
And so the people that's still for pording them, one

(25:25):
thing I can say is that they are bamboozers. They
are brainwashed, and you know, it's it's just sad. But
thank you so much for the information that you've given us,
doctor Harper. And people just stay prayed that we just
got to pray about this election. That's all I can say.

Speaker 11 (25:44):
All Right, thanks for taking my.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Call there, You're welcome. Thank you. Beverly w D I
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Speaker 15 (25:51):
Yes Smith, greed teams and greed teams. Doctor how I
pleasure how you bring greater fresh year and some sanity
into the not hose that we live in Carlor America.
So that a comment and then that a Christian? So

(26:12):
I saw I heard Kamela Harris the other the year
and the Charlama Show, and she said, yeah, we're going
to give out twenty five toes and thats uh the
first time home by us, which is great. And we're
going to give six toes and dollars tax credit per child,
which is great. But does happen? Don't you need a

(26:36):
job to purchase a house? The last time I recall,
you did a job, right, So if you don't have
a job, the twenty five toes that are, yeah, I
really hate you did that job, you know. So that's
that's just a coming. No, in reference to what you

(26:57):
said about Trump and they can't Jean, No, isn't It
isn't Trump just a reflection of a portion of American
society because apparently somebody is listening to him because he's
getting so much support. So would you said that a

(27:20):
large portion of the American population to have some mental
illness too, because they are going going along with this guy.
If you can't just reflect on that coming it, I
would be appreciated. Thank you, confession, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Thank you Marcus.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
You know, if you if you're listening closely to the
doctor Bandy Lee and all the colleagues that she's brought
together who are experts in their field, then obviously yes,
anyone that that is leaning or voting for him has
to be have to be inflicted with with with the
Trump contagious virus. You know, the fact that they that

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they that they're able to block out any factual check
of any of his behavior. The fact is that they've
bought into all the lies about conspiracies and what have you.
You know, the fact that the fact that they that
they've been supporting his his his his his his thoughts
about his and his threats about getting back in retribution

(28:21):
and what have you. And the fact that we're not
really told too much about the fact that the people
that come to those rallies are getting sick and tired
of hearing four things over and over, immigrants, people eating pets,
the border.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
And I'm gonna give you jobs.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
All of a sudden, believe me again, billionaires do not
care about middle class or poor people, and they have
very little regard for so called rich folks.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Anybody that promises you anything but doesn't have a history
of doing that in the past, and Donald Trump does
not have a history of wanting the black people in
his buildings, So y'all just keep that in mind. This
is someone who these psychiatrists and others have basically declared
is unfit, he's dangerous, and he's mentally unwall. That should

(29:12):
stop any of you from having to argue with anybody
from out of state or anybody that's local that wants
to talk about and compare Kamala Harris to him.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
The bottom line your statement should.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Always be he's unfit, he's dangerous, and it's been diagnosed
by experts.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
And leave it at that.

Speaker 16 (29:29):
W D I A hi, brother, Omar, Yeah, good afternoon
or morning.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's still morning, brother Omar.

Speaker 16 (29:37):
Yes, okay, greetings to doctor Harper and yourself. I'm going
to tell you something that really caught my attentions in
January sixth and I looked at those people and they
crowd down there. The guy with the horns on his head,
a couple of people will kill and he too a

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brief and heated his hand na the other devils. They
still support him. He had skinny heads down now his
proud boys. That January sixth read and let me know
what Donald Trump was all about him.

Speaker 17 (30:12):
We've always had great uh black women and leadership all
the way back to Africa and Ethiopia, Fanny Hammon right here,
Coneia Crunchall.

Speaker 16 (30:23):
We always had women that would take care of business.
So it ain't nothing about talking about sitting in the
sea of power. We always had good women leadership exactly
that January sixth. That January sixth, brothers, that really turned
me against him. I think that should have done you.

(30:43):
But like I said, we've always had uh leadership, good women,
good black women.

Speaker 10 (30:49):
For you.

Speaker 16 (30:50):
Franny Hammon, Yeah, coming on those things I just said,
I just say.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I'm right, all right, thank you, brother Omar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think the main thing to come in on is
that for all all the black folks, colored folks running
around here who are supporting him, just think you're you're
in bed with the klan, you're in bed with the skinheads,
you're in bed with the proud boys, you're in bed
with the neo Nazis and you're in bed with the
white Christian nationalists.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's who you are in bed with. So believe me,
if you're in bed.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
With those psychopaths, then you have to ask yourself what
the hell is wrong with you? You got tramped contagion
as well, and you need to get well quick.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Hello, little daddy, what a new bed?

Speaker 18 (31:36):
What's up with your doctor?

Speaker 17 (31:38):
Hoppin?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You got the hang brother?

Speaker 19 (31:41):
Hey?

Speaker 18 (31:41):
Bell must ball of course, And that I know about
this because I am the black House of the radio lane.
My thing is this. That guy is another frank of sad.
I'm just gonna see it, and then I'm just gonna
tell the Troop and Shane the Devil if plus doctor Hopper,
this guy's bipolar, He'll go on and thing else here.

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I ain't finna be the president. Uh, Pamela Harris got
this sobered up, and I'm going soon as I get
through told Bells, soon as I get through talking to Bell,
I'm finna go down and vote her because the fact
that I know what it's gonna be, it's gonna be
Tamla Have because I like and miss Had, because in

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fact she's the president vice president and she a tomorrow woman,
and she deserves what she deserved, and it's gonna be
a story my mom for everybody, but doctor Hopper. When
I told I think I told Bell, I might have
told somebody else on the show. I said, I marriage

(32:47):
all of my vises and bees and fans. That's us,
a little dad and doctor Hope. I see them all day,
every day. And when I put that out there, believe me,
my fan's gonna merge and we're gonna do. She gonna
be the she gonna be what it gonna be, Little
Bell my thing to day.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think it's immense too.

Speaker 18 (33:05):
And I understand the little something what Bell said, the
nurse devil. But then is she ain't gotta word. I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna see it, Bill, she ain't
got a word. Ain't gonna be no stealing or the
relations or none of that for cause them beds they
watching it close. And Donald Trump deserved to be in jail.
He got thirty nine counts and if he did all

(33:27):
that crapping and the uh genre see what he want
to call for, he should have been in jail. Then
my thing, it is, it's time out.

Speaker 19 (33:36):
For this crap.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Doctor Hop.

Speaker 18 (33:38):
I got a problem, I said this bill. If I'm
gonna go, I got a problem back the grossness and
everything sky high to a rocker. It's hard for the
middle class people. It's hard for the po folk. Bill
I'm making it, but I leave extra extort money so
I could see something this ain't work that they need

(34:00):
to get that goon in the single matter of fact,
a bell. If I'm gonna push that goon g up
in that in that new singhole that got on horn Lake,
and uh, this where you're gonna be something I can
leave with it him if I got one shot out.
This is a lady I just middled today of where
I stayed and her her niney I'm gonna make up

(34:22):
my first lady. Her name is Grace, and then got
another friend that loved me and her and her nine
is mercer. I think that's right, him fell me see
why that mercy.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's mercying, little daddy.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Good for you?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, now when you hang up now going on vote now,
little daddy, you going and vote today?

Speaker 18 (34:43):
Definitely vote.

Speaker 14 (34:44):
I vote all the time.

Speaker 18 (34:45):
If I've been voting, I've been raised up for voting.
Then hang up, do my thing, little Bell. If it
is what it is? Uh huh that ain't what it ain't?
Uh huh get what bell?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
What little daddy that rough?

Speaker 18 (35:02):
Whoever that food is, he ain't gon be the president.
If you might way up pack your bed and go
to jail and have a life. You hit that new
singhold like guy, I have a good bill.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
You two little daddy you know, let me let me
make a few comments one, you know, getting back to
what Marcus said, I think that that that any time
we're talking about political leadership and our vote we have,
we have to basically look at what both both candidates
are saying. And I think Marcus was right about this.
You know, you shouldn't start talking about giving anybody twenty
five thousand dollars to get a home unless you can

(35:33):
talk about jobs first. That's what she needs to talk
more about how she's going to create jobs so that
people can have the down payment for a home. So
I think she needs to do more of that. And
when it comes to uh little daddy saying that the
federal affairs are going to be all over the voting
and what have you, Believe me, you all need to
go on Google and google vigilantes Comma inc. Vigilanting Comma

(36:00):
Mark Inc. And then you look for voter suppression and
you're going to see an over an hour long expose
a of how these these these white races are basically
challenging black people's votes throughout Georgia and knocking off hundreds
of thousands of Black people off the voting laws, off

(36:21):
off the voting books. And in order to get back
into being able to vote, you have to go back
to the courthouse wherever that is and show documentation that
you live in a particular place and this is your
right name, et cetera on the ballot. They can challenge
you and automatically overnight kick you off your ability to
even vote. Black people, go google the vigilantes common ink

(36:47):
and look for voter suppression. It's it's it's also on Facebook.
But believe me, once you see that, you'll see how
these white folks are trying their damnedest to kick black
people off the voting off from voting period. And believe me,
they've got this thing set up. And if you looked
at the news this morning, you saw that a judge

(37:08):
has blocked them from being able to do what they're
trying to do. So I mean, keep your eyes open
Believe me, what we really need is the National Guard
called out in many of these states, in many of
these voting precincts on the on the fifth of November,
and to make a visible present, because these folks are
here to win and they don't mind who they kill

(37:31):
or destroy to do it.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Believe me, we are talking this day. Hold on, callers,
We're gonna get to you. We're talking Part two, The
Psychology of Trump Contagion a threat to American Democracy and
human kind. Doctor Warren Harper is here nine zero one
five three five nine three four to two eight hundred
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(37:57):
three five three five nine three four or two will
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Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'm just saying, shown.

Speaker 17 (38:33):
You did a thing.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
I'm telling you everyone see cometh come falking.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
No everyone, and welcome back back to our phone minds
to talk with you. Thank you for waiting. Hi, Michael,
good good after you know how you doing good afternoon?

(39:08):
I'm doing well in yourself.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I'm fun.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
What do you say?

Speaker 19 (39:14):
I say.

Speaker 20 (39:17):
That people are going to choose who to vote for,
who they want to vote for. Donald President President Trump
has made some bad decisions, but right now it's the
best of two evils who's running for the presidency. My
personal statement is we're looking at who is going to
close the borders, who is going to stimulate the economy,

(39:39):
And I personally don't think that Harris can do it.
That's my personal opinion.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Okay, thank you, Michael, thank you, thank you. W D
I A Hi, Beverly, Hey, Beverly.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
The reason I'm calling back that was something important that
I left out when I talked earlier about the relationship
between Donald Trump and Roy Khan.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
Uh huh.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
These are three rules that Roy Kohen taught Donald Trump
that he's still using today. Number one, attack attack attack.
Number two, admit nothing, deny everything. Number three, never admit defeat.

(40:27):
That's what he That's one of the things he first
talked Donald Trump.

Speaker 13 (40:32):
And you see it.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
That's exactly how he is now. And beb you know
what's happening over in West Smithy. You know about photo suppression.
That's happening in West Smithy.

Speaker 10 (40:45):
Close close to.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Home, real close to her, real close to home.

Speaker 11 (40:50):
Yeah, all right, that's all I have to say.

Speaker 9 (40:52):
Thank you for taking me back.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
You welcome, Thank you, Bye bye. Mister c J Hello, queen,
are you I'm doing well, mister C and yourself.

Speaker 21 (41:04):
Better than the rest, greater than the best, okay, okay,
eight degree and sturdy gaining moment. I mean I think
I think there's stupidity on both sides of the political spectrum.
I mean, because I mean, then you got white folks, sup.
But see the thing about it is this. I mean,

(41:26):
I really don't have no serious problem with Donald Trump.
I don't he letting you know what you Okay, I'm
sorry about that last, but he let he let you
know what if you what you if you vote for him,
he let you know what you know. So I mean,
I mean I don't see the old bump in that
then come come out harvest.

Speaker 10 (41:48):
I mean I don't.

Speaker 19 (41:49):
I'm not impressed with her either, because she what she's
going to do more n likely is continued Joe Biden's syndrome.
You know, as far as taking money, I was a
US sending over the porn country. That's the problem I
have with Joe Biden. You know, man, hey, man, come
on now, I mean, there's there's just more than one

(42:10):
way to do right and at the present time, uh man,
I'm a listening to uh intercom old the old, the old,
the aghways here. See, you know, I'm not impressed with
I'm not impressed with either what either one of those people,
you know. But see the thing about it, Queen, Look,
I'm gonna have to please you again, not calling you

(42:30):
because uh and the doctor Harper is always a prayer
to hear you. Look by pas you later.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
All right, thank you too, bye bye. But I also
I was gonna take mister c J. I know he
had hang up. But but President Biden is not I mean,
he's not the only president send money overseas. We've we've
always had presidents that doctor Harper that is given money
to our allies. I mean, that's that's that's nothing new,
and it's nothing doing.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
And I can appreciate the fact that that he brings
up because see, I think nowadays when we when we
have money being sent to to Ukraine as.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Well as over to Israel, you know, it does, it does.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
It does cause people to feel uncomfortable about that because
we want our money to stay here to improve our
own community.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
So so I hear what you're saying. But also you're right,
there's been a history of this.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, they've been a history of giving a given Israel
billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, and y'all didn't say nothing about it, right, That's
what I'm saying. So that's that this is nothing new,
nothing new. It's nothing, nothing new, And no one said
And I wonder, and I'm coming to you a caller,
but I and I think about we keep hearing about
the borders. And I asked this question to some friends,
doctor Harper, and I'm asking, are black folks really interested

(43:44):
about about the border being clothed and not? I just
want to know if black folks really I mean, is
that a big concern with black folks? The border?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I think I think the border is a is a
big concern for black people that are on Trump and
with Trump, because that's one of his talking points. I mean,
after he basically says that he has nothing else to
talk about because he can I explain in detail how
he's going to do anything right now. You know, Marcus
was basically saying something similar about about the vice president.

(44:16):
But the fact is that when when Donald Trump talks
about everything he's going to do, you know, there is
very little that he did do.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Where is the wall? Four years? Yeah, I mean he had,
he had the power to do that. What did he do?
It ain't been built?

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And see that goes the same for all black folks
that have dreams about him doing such great things. Believe me,
he'll promise you anything and give you smoke and mirrors.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
W D I a black Conservative. I hear you now,
I hear you now.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I am the most erudite mind, brilliant thinker and political
You know you? You you folks that Jesus got me?
What are y'all smoking?

Speaker 22 (45:06):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Y'all have Trump derangements and drawn for real. Never share
information with you are never share somewhere, y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Please.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Only about nine percent of black voters voted for runner Reagan.
Only about George W.

Speaker 12 (45:22):
Bush got about eight percent.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
You know how, you know how he got made about
ten a little bit more for Trump when he ran
ran the first time. Only about eight percent nine percent
that you are voted for him. So let me ask questions,
what's the problem that y'all have? What problem did y'all

(45:45):
have with Runner Reagan? George W. Bush?

Speaker 12 (45:51):
They received the same.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
No Republican is going to get more than eight or
nine percent of the black vote. I don't care who
they are. Okay, y'all up here upset.

Speaker 22 (46:02):
About Trump, like like y'all goes only eight nine.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Percent of black votes on the boat for Trump anyway.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
So y'all just killed a noise like this man.

Speaker 18 (46:13):
He is the son of Satan.

Speaker 22 (46:15):
Well, I think, right, yeah, but you know, doctor Harmon,
his doctor has you know, he let me say this
real quick, he has, you know, when Trump isn't offering
in twenty seventeen, so Democrats were like Mannylos, like.

Speaker 12 (46:31):
Oh, Trump need to go through a psychological evaluation.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
We think he's unstable. There's something wrong with him.

Speaker 22 (46:37):
So he did all of that and he passed.

Speaker 12 (46:39):
He didn't know.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
He did not go through He did not go through
any kind of mental health evaluation. He went to his
general practitioner. No, no, get the facts.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Did you hear what you just said?

Speaker 18 (46:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Typical open your mouth. Your brain's on display again, a
negative statement.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Wrong, he was never evaluated, and these these psychiatrists have
done it for him.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
He's unstable.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Look, okay, DoD Harbard, he ain't saying that.

Speaker 19 (47:09):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
What I do is ispect Trump ain't all these psychologists
you're talking about. Trump ain't set and now one of them.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Doesn't have to, not for forensicsal not for forensic psychiatrists.
It does not check again, check some facts. Don't call
up if you don't know what you're talking about. Check noiatry.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Check it out. Doctor how he doesn't even know what
forensic psychology is.

Speaker 22 (47:31):
So he doesn't know that.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
But but you're brilliant. Mind may not know what it is.

Speaker 14 (47:39):
I may not know what it is.

Speaker 22 (47:41):
But let me say this is here.

Speaker 12 (47:42):
I don't have no Harry's arrangement syndrome.

Speaker 22 (47:46):
That one thing I don't have.

Speaker 19 (47:48):
But let me say this here.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
You know, good well, looked at it ain't finna getting
no twenty five thousand dollars, no business, say what.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Black conservative and lost credits? Huh okay, go on going.
We had lost.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
I'm saying, you know, Kama Harris said she's gonna give
twenty all the black men twenty five thousand dollars a
start of busiting and and started the marijuana busing. You know,
good well, when they put a credit check, they ain't
getting no twenty five fifty thousand dollars. They ain't finnah
giving no twenty five thousand dollars. Said nobody who.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Got bad credit and no job black conservative. All I
can say to you go vote, thank you black and
get your fact straight, fact straight, arodite mind, brilliant thinker. Yeah. Okay,
w d unforgetful.

Speaker 13 (48:40):
Y'all got a great show, doctor hawferin Beth John this
so okay, thank you know something I just don't understand
where we got to listen to the voices of people
that said that homosexual back then was he then the
US and then they changed it and said it's not
a meal, you know, things like that. I watched these

(49:02):
kind of people, you know what I mean. I'm gonna
use my own mindset, think what I'm thinking, what's going
on in this world? And thinking about age. You know
when Ron Reagan, because they were talking about that back
in the day when he got to be seventy eighty,
that seventy and nine, you know, that was the end
of his presidency. How old is Trump now?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I think he's eighty. I'm not sure about eighty four. No, No,
he's about seventy nine or something.

Speaker 13 (49:30):
Okay, Okay, let's say that he's your age. So he
gets up in the eighties, that's his last turn, right, Okay,
So I don't see no problem with that. You know,
I just don't understand people, but you know, you hear
what you want to hear. But I'm a Trump support
that I'm just gonna deal with that. And by the way,

(49:51):
this is the last thing.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
This the last thing, missus.

Speaker 13 (49:53):
Johnathan dot Barber. I hope I don't be an enemy
when it's overwhel No, no, no, no, no out my friend.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (50:01):
See, I want to do the name talking. I mean
calling people names and all the stuff. Because of this
political stuff. I have been called hall kind of name.
But I just hope I'm still fraying with y'all. One
all the steps over with.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
All right, you will be all right. Thank you, honey,
forget We're let's say now. Thank you you too. Bye bye.
W d I a hi caller.

Speaker 21 (50:26):
Good afternoon, my most beautiful African advitor. How you doing today,
my sister?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Wow, good afternoon, David. Good hearing from you.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well, great listening to y'all, fabulous show. I really really appreciate, sister,
what you contribute to us.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
We need this.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
It was all the lies and deceit and deception that
is going on. At least we got one day that
we can listen to the truth. And make sure because
what happens, Doc, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
How you doing, Brother Don doing fine, Brother David.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
What happens is that we kind of listen to this
stuff over and over again. Then we asked the question,
am I crazy? Am I rangy?

Speaker 6 (51:09):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
And you know they used to say that Denial is
not a river in Africa? You know, I don't know
what the hell amnees is. But it's interesting how whether
it's a river in Africa or something that that dude
that's trying to get to Mars, maybe it's the river
there who is, by the way, putting an x I

(51:33):
and putting in a whole lot of money into the
Trump campaign. People kind of just looking over that, right,
But he care about black folks in our water. Okay,
y'all keep on thinking about that and thinking that way.
But in any case, let me let me just that
that I'm gonna try to be as quick as I
can sin that's where I am, you know, be, But

(51:53):
let me just say this. It's interesting to me that
some black folks who are doing well, they just I
don't know, whether they don't have a basic economic cost
where they just don't understand history, they don't don't watch,
they don't read for themselves. But let's be clear about China.
White men made China the most the second most powerful

(52:14):
country in the world. White men in America they shifted
all those jobs over there, right because they did not
want to pay union members the money that they were
should have been paid in order to work in factories.
So they ship jobs over there, so that, by the way,

(52:36):
paying slave wages. And in one instance, those Apple computers,
not just Apple, but other tech manufacturing, that it was
so bad that they had to erect nets around the
warehouses because the Chinese were committing suicide as hard as
they were working, so to keep them from jumping out

(52:56):
the windows. And some of it that that same produce
and manufacturer was manufacturing Apples, phone and computed and the rest.
But like I said, it wasn't just Apple, it was
other technology companies too. This was reported on PBS News
out a real news sources, not fake news, not faithbook.
In addition, and we talk about black jobs, what happens

(53:20):
is that because we don't keep up, because we don't read,
because all these things that are happening to us, we
just kind of remember it conveniently that it was white
men who illegally brought Mexicans and other folks in Central
and South America over to this country again to work
with slate for wages that were lower than the union tradesmen, right,

(53:45):
all those people so they can pay less. So now
white folks are pointing the finger at people of color,
being Chinese, being Mexican and saying they're the problem. And
black people who are following right along because they're doing okay,
they got a few cars in their pockets. I said,
the problem is the Mexicans and the border and the Chinese,

(54:07):
while this clown is talking about putting tariffs on the
same products of which white men shift the jobs over there,
of which you got to pay more for the damn product.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Now, Look, stupid is what stupid does. But at some
point you got to be able to spaill stupid and
not be stupid. You won't vote for a man who,
by the way, is telling you that he's a father
of ibl while he's a reason why women, our women
can't get even worse. The healthcare for black women's even

(54:40):
worse than it was before this clown got an office,
and it was already fast. You know, this is the
thing that I don't understand about our own people. And
I leave with this, You mean to tell me that
after January sixth and authoritarian you believe that it's gonna
be business a as usual. Is that a minute a

(55:01):
thor Tearan gets an office, you think that the free
market is gonna work the way it worked before a
damn a thor Taran getting off. Now, you ain't got
to have no Harvard Economics degree pac to know that
there is no authoritarian regime that respects people in free

(55:23):
markets unless they can control them, right, unless they can
destroy them, as Poot has done shooting his ally former
ally out of the sky and whoever was on the
damn plane because that guy tried to overthrow the Putin regime.
China is not China is not communism. It's a thord terrorism.

(55:48):
If you knew anything about communism, you will know that
that's not what that is. So here's my last statement.
I cannot support any man that tells me I ain't
got a right to make my own decisions business, personal
or otherwise. He cares nothing but about himself and continently
shows you that that's what he cares about. He don't

(56:10):
care about women. He don't care about men. All he
cared about is is orange azz. And you're gonna try
to make an equal compassion between her and this clown man.
God bless you if you believe God. Thank you, sir,
have a good day.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Thank you, David, Bye bye w D I a hi caller.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Hello, how are you today?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I'm doing well today? And yourself?

Speaker 10 (56:35):
I am fine? And hello, doctor Harper?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
How's it going? Brother?

Speaker 10 (56:40):
It's going? Sign goods?

Speaker 15 (56:44):
Put it I begin.

Speaker 10 (56:45):
Do you do you remember four weeks ago when Don
Trump Senor said that the Haitian people in Springfield, Ohio
with eating cats and dogs. Do you also remember that?
Remember that he said he was going to go there
in two weeks. Well he's two weeks late. So that

(57:07):
was a lie to stir things up. So if he
can't even keep his word on going to a place
where he say it's a threat to the United States
of America hastenly eating cats and dogs, he can't even
go there two weeks later, but he's somewhere else. He
always used a distraction. And for these black Republicans that

(57:29):
call in the call two times before, there are two
calls before I did. They keep saying make America great again. Okay,
what year was it that Americans stopped being great? Donald
Trump seen him can't even ask that question because no
one never asked him that question. No one never asked

(57:50):
him that. So when was the last year American stopped
being great? But he keep using that slogan he repeated,
he repeated over and over again, and he repeated them
people fought with that stuff. That's what he does. Now,
let's talk about the black vote. If the black vote
is it as high as they claim it is, then

(58:12):
why DoD Trump's senior number stood forty seven percent. It
should be fifty three or fifty four percent. Why is
that because obviously the people that he had four years ago,
eight years ago, it came over to the other side
because the numbers should be higher. But people don't want
to go that route. They don't want to go there
at all. And I just don't understand that. And what

(58:34):
you said earlier about that wall. They think about this.
He had the conference the Senate and the White House
for two years twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. He could
have gotten that wall built from Texas all the way
to California. And if he had any common sense when
he does not. He could have had that wall built

(58:56):
in sections and hired people. And then people say, well,
maybe there is not enough people to work force. Yes,
it was all the folks at the board are trying
to come in. If you've told one thousand those people
trying to get into into the United States of America,
we will give you automatic citizenship, you help us build
this wall. Trust me, they were ability to keep the

(59:17):
folks out because they was already in. But he had
enough common sense to think that for And yet we're
gonna follow this this this knight who wants to be
a dictator, who want to take away your rights, want
to end the Constitution. Do y'all know some of the
things would happened to you at the Second Amendment, the
Fourth Amendment and the fifth Amendment was God and he

(59:39):
take over and people talking about what I gotta be voted, Well,
guess what the Supreme Court already said he can do
whatever he wants. So all he got to do is
eliminate the governor of certain states and put Republican in
there because he will not be committed for crime, and
get thirty eight states and you pass that stuff. But
folks don't see the big pictures that man dangerous, dangerous

(01:00:02):
to the court.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I agree, Thank you, caller, thank you, thank you, thank you.
We are talking this day. We are talking the psychology
of Trump contagion, a threat to American democracy and human kind. Psychologists,
mental health specialist doctor Warren Harper is here. We're gonna
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Welcome back to the second half of the BEV Johnson Show.
Here at w d i A, we're talking the psychology
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With psychologists, mental health specialists, Raceman, doctor Warren Harper will
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we're going back with Dr Harper so he can finish
part two of the Psychology of Trump Contagion a Threat
to American Democracy and humankind, Doctor Harper.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Now, since doctor Lee is a forensic psychiatrist and has
done extensive work and research on gangs, prisoners, psychiatric patients,
and cult leadership thinking and behaviors, she is fully aware
of how these types of people can influence others to
the point of the other person's completely altering their thinking
and behavior to become aligned with the cult or gang

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leader or prison boss's way of thinking, feeling, and behavior.
Doctor Lee states quote symptoms can spread amongst family members,
criminal co conspirators, members of street gangs, and other tightly
knit groups where the contagion effect goes up dramatically, and
that when individuals perceive that a behavior or belief is
widely accepted within their group, they may feel pressure to

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conform to that behavior or belief, even if they initially
had different ideas, and even if confronted with contradictory facts.
What doctor Lee is saying is that Trump's emotions of rage, grievance,
and revenge, his pension for violent and aggressive retaliation, his
poor tolerance of reality would eventually become examples of symptoms

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that spread due to the ongoing media presentations of his misguided, delusional,
paranoid lying and revengeful behaviors, which brings in new converts
and further misguides his cult followers who become locked into
his warped, narcissistic, greed, fat and unjustifiable violence mental bubble
of dangerousness which he has created for them, and who

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now are most at risk and susceptible to adopting his feelings, beliefs,
and actions, leading to becoming more in line with his irrational,
distorted and lying way of manipulating people who have become
infected with Trump contagion, where they automatically regurgitate his talking
points and then they become inoculated against hearing the opinions

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of those who do not support him. Trump Contagion grew
exponentially with the free media time given to his and
his one line of political craziness about immigrants, babies being
killed after they're born, people eating pets, that he is
smarter than all the generals, that military servicemen and women
who served are ignorant for doing so, and that you

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can either drink or inject bleach to kill off the
COVID nineteen virus, and that police officers should have complete
immunity for any acts of violence. Perpetrated against anyone they stop.
These are his one liner politics and is a perfect
example of the dumb leading the blind Trump infected horde
towards further inciting and engaging in a civil war if

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he's not elected. These misguided and hate filled lies that
he literally vomits all over his audience, and which spreads
by emotional contagion among the unprotected populations who are in
the audience listening to him, along with the news media,
which generously further spreads and normalizes his rageful, revengeful.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
And pathological line symptomatology.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
The Trump continion not only becomes instilled the same as
COVID nineteen deadly virus became instilled into people who were
just exposed to the virus germs, the same as Trump's
lies in hospital, negative y characterizations and racist hates can
infect people who are constantly exposed to his racism and
hatred by the media over and over repeating false accusations

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and straight out lies. The fact is that his cult followers,
having now being infected with Trump can tagan, have now
chosen to close off their ability to think rationally or
to fact check what is being said by a less
than human being, which George Conway claims to be a malignant, narcissistic,
sociopath and pathological liar. Now, part of how his contagious

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lie spread is because the brain spends much more time
thinking about things said which do not make sense, are
not normal, seem confusing, or just playing crazy, like people
eating pets. The brain spends more time trying to make
sense of these irrational and grossly unusual behaviors, which leaves
less time and energy to hear in fact check what

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this failed line former president is really saying. Take the
pet eating lie. This lie has been a major part
of the news for over weeks, although it has been
denied by the city's mayor and the woman who initially lost.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Her cat, which was later found.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Now you see, the crazy statements get the most attention
and I remembered more, whereas the truthful fact, the fact
checked all part of it. The fact that the story
was not to begin with the truthful to begin with,
that got most of the media attention. Okay, so in
the deranged thinking of a person characterized by George Conway
as a malignant, narcissistic, sociopathic liar, whatever this person says

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about their opponent is what mental health professionals call projection,
which means taking emotions, thoughts, or actions that they have
about themselves and saying that this is what their opponent
is thinking and doing. For example, former Fair President Rump
said that Hillary Clinton was crooked and should be locked up,

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whereas he is the one with thirty four felony convictions
and a convicted sex offender, and therefore he is he
is the crook and should be locked up. He says
that Vice President Kamala Harris is a diversity, equity and
inclusion candidate for president, meaning that she is probably has
a low IQ and and got the position only because
she's a black woman, which means that she is educationally

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unqualified for the job. This is what he's saying, and
that the Biden family is the most corrupt family in America,
whereas he is the one who pays prostitutes while Mary
pays the media to cover up his adultery, pays his
lord to conduct his dirty work. Then hies the hand
that has thrown the rock or concluded or conducted the
crime he projects. He projects his line cheating, illegal, irrational behavior,

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and racist beliefs onto his opponents, such as saying that
it was the negative rhetoric of the president and vice
president that led to his getting shot at, versus him
being the one who has historically called for violence against
anyone who opposes him, as he has recently informed the
public that when he is re elected and I hope
this never is the case, that he will prosecute all

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those who have opposed him, not those who have conducted
a crime, but those who do not like what he says, does,
or is. Because he is less than a human being
and probably Satan himself, So his delusions about being being
the one who won the twenty twenty election is a false,
fixed belief, but it is seen by his Trump infected

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followers as the Democrats having stolen the election from him,
and that they are out to destroy his honest name.
His rage and violent retribution retribution fects threats against his
opponents is not only psychologically disturbed, but these irrational threats
become the same threats that his co followers have why
because they have caught Trump contagion and now are as

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irrational and violent as he is. The remedy for curing
Trump contagion is the same as curing COVID nineteen pandemic virus,
and that was to stay away from his infectious rhetoric
and hate. Stop listening to his German infected speeches. Stop
exposing yourself to others who are deeply infected with the
delusions which are fixed false beliefs of him winning the

(01:11:51):
twenty twenty election and conspiracy theories. Stop engaging in arguments
with Trumpites who are sick with their contagion of hatred, death,
and instruction, who only want to confuse you with what
they see as his great achievements. If you do choose
to interact with these mentally deranged Trump infected people, just
repeatedly point out that psychiatrists and other mental health experts

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have indicated that he is mentally unbalanced and is a
public health threat and danger to our country and the world,
who is lost in his own world where he is
superior to all others, who are just peasants to be
used and abused then discarded. And if you do not
choose to worship him, then expect the Nazi pant paramilitary

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former clan members to visit you one night, why because
he's persuaded them to do so. But don't expect to
see him defending the assaulters when they go to jail,
because like a snake, he will deceive you with his
sinister smile, then strike you with his hatred lace venom,
and leave you stunned dying for him, and not vice versa.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
This is Trump contagion. Brothers, sisters, don't get around it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Avoid people who talk with foolishness, and don't even try
to argue with them. Just continue to say he is imbalanced,
he's unstable, and he's been diagnosed by over forty some
odd psychiatrists as being unfit and too dangerous to run
this country.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
And saying that I was looking, I got an email
doctor Harper. Keith says doctor Harper. I've yet to hear
from any of the Trump's supporters on their views about
Project twenty twenty five. Trump has denied it. We've talked
about it. However, my view is some ninety plus people
who have Trump's ear don't take time to write a

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nine hundred page document, then you certainly don't take the
time to bind it in a hard book cover and binder.
In conclusion, take a moment, y'all, and please read at
least some of Project twenty twenty five before voting and
remember this will be policy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
You know this, this this this document, this this this
this uh, this racist document was being put together and
what was actually being used by Reagan with a certain
extent years ago when they were putting all this together.
But see now they found the right person who was
so impaired but also so so as it has been
referred to as so malignantly narcissistic and psychopociopathic, that he

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he will implement it with vigor. And believe me, if
he ever gets back in office again, we all have
hell to pay because we're not bigionnaires.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
No we're not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
And that's the only person he's concerned about, with the
top being there, only being himself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
We are talking this day the psychology of Trump contagion,
a threat to American democracy and humankind. All right, callers,
we'll take more calls. Five three five, nine three four
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the Bev Johnson Show. Here's Bev Johnson and back to
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Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
Hi, Moley, sister, bev And of course it's always a
privilege to being a company of doctor Harper.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Good.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
To begin with my Jim Jordan prayer, the Lord give
me the confidence of a mediocre white man. If mister
Trump is re elected as as as the president, we
will have the arsonists running the fire department. He will

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be a stick of dynamite running around searching and looking
for a match so he can light up the country.
That his his mental capacity for lyne is unbelievable. I've

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never experienced anything like that. I mean, he he told
another lie the other night that he has been repeating
over and over again and was corrected on it'll, but
he will continue to be That's the something about his character.
And we have folks who no longer question a character

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is no longer an issue for them. Folks, if there's
a trifector with respect to the election, and the Republicans
take both Houses of Congress and the presidency, the Affordable
Care Act is gone. Understand this, forty five million people

(01:17:35):
will lose their health insurance coverage because the good Christian
Republican Congress will decide that it's no longer necessary for
folks to have health care in this country. And we

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have black people who support that right and and and
they think that that's the way to go because I
was making more money when Trump was was president than
I am now with Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
All right, thank you, Molly.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
Oh one other thing, Oh yes, that scares me a doc.
The US has less than five percent of the world's population,
but we experience more than twenty percent of the world's
COVID death.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
So if we don't spend more time figuring out why
we do such a poor job of protecting ourselves against
that pathogen, how are we going to protect ourselves from
the next time it happens? And that goes out to
the brothers who maintains support for Trump, And with that,

(01:18:55):
may you both continue to thrive.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
You Hi, black line of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Hi. Hi, Yes, okay, great.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
Good morning. I'm a that's a long time listening, fortunn
call this So the wanting to you and to your yes.
My question is, you know, I think our problems are
big and just blame it at one one critical party
and that's the thing that's been there, Republican Party.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
It seems to me that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
Maybe one of them have our full interest at heart.

Speaker 10 (01:19:35):
But the Democrat Party.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
To me, it seemed to be our biggest oppressor and
at that part, I just, you know, have a problem
with I don't get it because most of the eventss
up until the sixties have been because of the Republican Party.
Even with the Lennond Johnson passing of the Bodhist Right Act,

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you know, there was Republicans who pushed that through. It
was Democrats who filibustered that, and in particular Robert Berry,
who was a former Kuklak clan leader. And the irony
of that is you got Barack Obama out there now
trying to shame black men into supporting Kamala Harris, which

(01:20:26):
I don't feel like Barack Obama has a leg to
stand on when it comes to being a black representative,
because here's a black man, the first black president. He
actually eulogized this clansman, this Ku Kluk clan leader.

Speaker 12 (01:20:45):
And people say.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
Trump being a racist or whatever, but here we have
a black president doing a eulogy for Alu clans leader.

Speaker 12 (01:20:58):
No you are anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
Would ever eulogize a member of the Nazi Party. No
white man woever eulogize a member of a kind of
are any other terrorist organization. Why aren't okay for a
black man, the first black president to eulogize a clansman
and that goes no one checks that. So those are

(01:21:25):
my issues with it. I mean I have a lot
of other issues with it, but those are like right.

Speaker 12 (01:21:31):
Off the top of my issues.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
All right, thank you for your comment. Thank you, doctor Harper.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, the next time I come on, I'll bring you
the the the whole list of things that the Democrats
have been responsible for passing that has helped significantly the
African American community. And you're right, Republicans were there to
support many of the things that that that that were
going on in terms of civil rights, but it was

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the Democrats that put it through.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So so brother, keep on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
See you're trying to be very clever, and that is
saying that the Republicans were doing the all the action,
all the dirty work, or all the clean work and
what have you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
They were not. They probably only came off board behind.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
The fact that they had districts where black people were
in and so they had to basically come aboard. Plus
Lyndon Baines Johnson was a very strong president and he
had a lot of power and so yeah, I'm sure
he influenced many of them to come to his side
as well, but believe me, don't try to shift it
in fact, like the Republicans were behind civil rights for
black people.

Speaker 12 (01:22:29):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
And also let me also point out that, as I
say all the time, but folks don't want to listen
to this, and that is the left ring, the left
wing and the right wing belonged to the same bird.
Both parties have not done us right, but always focusing
on what the Democrats haven't done, and not fact checking

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what the Republicans have not done, and not even trying
to see as I will bring back again the whole
list of things that Democrats have done and why black
people should stay close to the Democratic Party, but they
should also make sure that their vote counts with the
Democratic Party.

Speaker 14 (01:23:12):
Hi, Scott, good afternoon, Miss Johnson, Miss Bell Johnson, and
the got know your commander. Yes, but listening to these people,
this guy just got off talking about the Republicans and
what in the nineteen sixty four Democratic Convention when Tanner
new Haymer got up and spoke, Yes, it's true that
mister Johnson had her cut off because she was telling

(01:23:33):
the truth. But the Republican will never got on the floor,
never was allowed there on the floor. These people are
talking on this stuff throughout making America great again. It
made it was great again to everybody who's under I say,
sixty five years old, who never had to live through
the things that mister Trump didn't want to bring back.
That the white folks think there's the period and then

(01:23:53):
everything and all the other kind of stuff. And everybody
now not note even my Latin brothers here now could
under could have remember because they were not here with
understand what we had to go through in those years there.
American supposed to have been so great. It wasn't great.
It well great for them, but it wasn't great for us,
and it won't be grateful us again they come back.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
And I just make this statement the other night. I'm
gonna say again.

Speaker 14 (01:24:15):
They haven't challenged me on it yet, and I say
this is mister Obama wasn't trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Shame the brothers.

Speaker 10 (01:24:20):
He was trying to educate them.

Speaker 14 (01:24:22):
But the thing about this I believe, and I say
it again, most black men who don't want to vote
for Comela are afraid of a woman being in charge.
And more afraid of a white man not being in charge,
and that's what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
You're right, you have a nice day, you too. I
like what Scott said. Yeah, Scott, you're exactly right, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:24:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
And and just be very candid. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
It appalls me that that brothers running around here talking
about they're going to vote for this psychopath.

Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
You know, a person that's been diagnosed as being unstable,
you know, and he's proven every time he's got he's
got a microphone in front of him, he lies. Now,
it's shameful that that we have so many insecure, inadequate,
and immature black males, not all, so many insecure and
insecure black males that basically don't want women to have power.

(01:25:20):
Yeah see you want that, white folks, bs whereby you can,
you can keep up barefoot and pregnant brothers and sisters.
We need two working people to support black families. Now,
you can't have that sister in the in the kitchen
and just having babies. That's white folks thinking, Stop acting white,
stop bling black for a change, it might help you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Wud I agree with that, doctor Harper. I agree one
hundred percent, and and I do I disagree with with
black love. I don't think President Obama's trying to shame
black men. Hey, no, wake up, wake up, sad. Then
you think about you know, you have black mama. That's
you think. Do you think what? I don't know, But

(01:26:04):
I don't think he's trying to do that. I don't
think so I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
I think he was trying to wake brothers up and
trying to get them away from there from their chauvinistic
beliefs about women and what have you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Brother. And since you just think about this, every war
that US has been in was not brought forward behind
a woman. It was always males.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Males can't get along with each other because they're jealous, envious,
and they're inadequate, they're insecure, and they want to take
every damn thing. And I'm not talking about black folks here,
I'm talking about the white males who were always in
charge of every damn war we've been in. And you'
all are afraid of a woman. Hell, maybe some women
could basically really get peace going on in the world
because they would care about children, educating children, keeping everybody healthy,

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versus men, particularly white men and the negroes that are
the shuffling and kissing the ass behind them, only wanting
to take power and basically put women quote in their
place again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
M hm, shy mack.

Speaker 22 (01:27:05):
Hey, Billy, Hey, doctor Hopper, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Brother?

Speaker 18 (01:27:09):
How y'all doing doing well?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Shorty mack, God help us all you right?

Speaker 7 (01:27:16):
Talk to me out of town.

Speaker 23 (01:27:17):
Yeah, we're gonna need some help in the lection. And look,
I'm gonna be real brief and quick. I got a
real quick question. But doctor hopperin I'm gonna hang up
and let him answer.

Speaker 10 (01:27:27):
Bill.

Speaker 23 (01:27:27):
I got a chance to hear a part of the
interview the other day and doctor Happer the other day
that interviewed UH Vice President Kama Harris.

Speaker 12 (01:27:34):
Did I guess the breakfast club?

Speaker 16 (01:27:36):
Guy?

Speaker 23 (01:27:36):
H and uh, y'all know I'm on this reparation thing
because it's it's a concrete back into a lot of
black folks in this country want to ask the same question.
And them brothers up north really made me proud of them.
She had four or five questions for from a couple
of different brothers around Michigan and doctor Hopper.

Speaker 7 (01:27:57):
You know what they asked us.

Speaker 23 (01:27:59):
What they said, miss president, when you become president, what
you're gonna do? About the reparation old black people in
this country for the slavery and the pre label.

Speaker 16 (01:28:07):
They don't get.

Speaker 23 (01:28:08):
And you know when she said, doctor Hall, I want
you to answer this for me, and I'm gonna hang up.

Speaker 10 (01:28:13):
And try to describe what an answer was.

Speaker 23 (01:28:15):
Do you know what I answer was, doctor Hopper?

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
She said she was gonna study it. Bad answer, she said,
bad answer, but.

Speaker 12 (01:28:21):
She said it would have to be studied.

Speaker 23 (01:28:24):
Now, what kind of answer is that, doctor Hopper, When
they've been saying that for the last twenty years, they
got to study, they got to study reparation.

Speaker 10 (01:28:31):
I mean, how long do you do or study?

Speaker 23 (01:28:33):
With her being a black leader, I thought her answer
could have been a little bit better to the black people.
I'm gonna hang up, bless y'all, Thank you man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I also thought that that she that she that she
would have to step out on on a political limb,
but at some point you have to do that. Now,
if she had said, I will I will put a
task force together to study it, as we had done
in California, and we will look at that because they
are men. The institutions throughout America which are basically paying

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reparations to black people for the h for having sold
them or what have you. You know, explain a little
bit more about it and then move away from it,
but also put together a task force to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
You can't just you cannot, I mean put it this way.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
There are too many black folks now who are who
are moving towards the reparations movement to just say you're
gonna study it and then change the subject. I didn't
like that when she did that, and she could have
prepared better for that particular question, I think. And again
I'm gonna call a spade a spade when I don't
think that she's answering something correctly. I'm gonna say that
the same as I always do when I hear that

(01:29:40):
lion piece of nothing talk and open his mouth. But yeah,
I think she could have done better with that reparations piece.
If she doesn't like it, she should have said I'll
study it. But I'm not necessarily in favor, but I
can be. I can be persuaded. That's what politics is
all about, persuading people who have who have less power
than you, because you have all the power, persuading them

(01:30:01):
to do your bidding, as opposed to you acting like
they're supposed to make the decision. You make the decisions.
So I wish that she had answered it differently, but
she didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
And w w U d I a HI caller.

Speaker 7 (01:30:13):
Hello, Hi, you're on the air.

Speaker 12 (01:30:14):
Hey, Hey, hey, miss John. How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (01:30:18):
Good, good, doctor Hope. Always good to hear you. Uh,
you are giving some great information. Just a couple of things.
Been listening, always get good. Great to hear David and
Marcus speak. And uh uh uh uh miss miss Beverly,
nurse Beverly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:30:33):
There are two two uh documentaries. One is on the
Trump family and one is on Ray Can himself. Uh,
just a couple of little information.

Speaker 18 (01:30:42):
And uh.

Speaker 12 (01:30:43):
Trump made a statement about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Hello, hello, I think we lost you.

Speaker 12 (01:30:50):
Okay, Hello, yes, yes, okay. A week or so ago,
Trump made a statement he said, only a fool will
elected old to office. Now, this man is always giving
a little snippets about how he is. He met with
a group of women the other night and he said,
you know, they treat me like I'm alfonse o capoon.

Speaker 10 (01:31:11):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:31:12):
So he's always making reference to dictators games and stuff
like that because that's his mentality. And I don't know
why the Trump that's running around here. Don't see that.
And also another thing I would like for the Trump
people that love Trump so but that so uh anti
the blue states. I would like it in the Google

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how many Red states are in the poverty level and
the top ten I think it is in the poverty
level are Red state And I want them to explain
that to you know, why you love Trump so much?
But all these states are in the poverty level. He's
Red states led by red you know, Republican governments and stuff.

(01:31:53):
And also this man has lied so much. You know,
he got the theme of people being afraid to go
help because all this stuff on the internet about uh
they they they're not braking it there. So now people
are carrying God and tell the FAMA want you here?

Speaker 16 (01:32:08):
Yeah right, yes, yes, this is crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:32:12):
And Elon another thing, Elon Musk. And now Trump met
with the long showsman president at his house at my
Lago and then they went back to work. The deal
has been cut and they're talking about not want to
do robots and have robots coming in. But Trump has
Elon Musk on his side. What do you think Elon
Musk is gonna start doing producing robots. He's already got

(01:32:33):
a human on robot serving drinks somewhere. He ain't got
to see all this stuff. You know, they don't just
look at Donald Trump. Donald Trump four years ago, ain't
the Donald Trump on twenty twenty five. Donald Trump twenty
twenty five. He had a he had he like a dog.
That that that that tasted blood. Now he wants to
come back and do more damage. Donald Trump right now,

(01:32:54):
Donald Trump twenty twenty four.

Speaker 16 (01:32:55):
He wants to do more.

Speaker 19 (01:32:57):
Damage to the world.

Speaker 12 (01:32:58):
And he wants to get even to lot of people.
So he's not gonna be doing brothers and sisters that
love tomp so much. He's not gonna be doing what's
your thing. He's gonna be doing and and and our
President Barack Obama already told you the first two years
he was running that was good. That's because he had
already put her in place. So you know, I just

(01:33:18):
wanted to share that with you. And I know you
guys trying to get out of there. And I appreciate
you allowing me to call always break the heat, seeing
you doctor Harper and and then miss Johnson having them
on and your listeners. You guys have a great day
and continue being a blessing like you have that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Thank you so much, thank you, Thank you Colin, thank
you for listening. That's a harper. Any last word you
like to say today?

Speaker 16 (01:33:38):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Well, you know, in brief, the fact is that, uh, this,
this particular person has been diagnosed. Uh and I've laid
out all the different symptoms of of what what they
have found in terms of their assessment forensic psychiatrists and
other other great psychiatrists and psychologists.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
What more do you need?

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Would you marry someone or someone want someone to marry
your son or daughter who had all the pathology that
I listed?

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Now, those of you who are greedy and feel that
you have a right, almost a privilege, to be better
and to be and have more than everybody else, maybe
you probably would want that to happen. But the bottom line,
as Molee said, we're gonna lose so much if this
guy even comes close to winning and getting in office,

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We're going to lose the few of you who think
you're gonna make a few more dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Your best
bet is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
To come on over to the right side of history,
the right side of history, so that you will not
be the ones who basically have sold your soul to
the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Doctor Warren Harper. Thank you, Doctor Harper. Look forward to
the next time here on the BEV Johnson Show. We
thank you callers, We thank you listener for joining us
this day on the BEV Johnson Show. We do, we
really do appreciate you. So until tomorrow, please be safe,

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keep a cool head, y'all, don't let anyone steal your joy.
Until tomorrow, I'm Bev Johnson, and y'all keep the faith.

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