March 6, 2021 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike discuss the Seattle Seahawks and why Pete Carroll needs to trade Russell Wilson before it's too late. Could Alex Smith be on his way back to the Bay Area? The guys also take time to remember the late Mark Pavelich who made the go-ahead assist during the 'Miracle on Ice' in the 1980 Winter Olympics. Jason and Mike also discuss Kansas placing Les Miles on administrative leave.
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tonight as we get set for All Star weekend, but
plenty of big NFL news and headlines to get to.
And oh boy, you know, we got into it a
little bit with Jason Cole a few minutes ago about
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the situation in Seattle with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll,
and you know this is This is the second time
that that Cole's come on with us Mike and said,
you know, at some point someone's gonna go in to
Pete Carroll's office and say, dude, what are you doing.
It's the best quarterback we've ever had. What is going
on here? Why are you doing it this way? And
the thing is, I don't know that you can still
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do that. I don't know that you haven't passed the
point of Newhek And we haven't passed the rubicon, and
we and and just something's gonna have to happen because
things were bad for a while, and that was the
time when someone needed to go to Pete Carroll and go, dude,
what are you doing? Why are you alienating our quarterback?
Why are you doing this? He's the best thing that
ever happened in this franchise. We won a super Bowl,
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We should have won another one if you would run
the football. Why are you trying to push him out
of town? That was a conversation to have, you know,
a month or two ago. Now you've let it fester.
He's clearly not happy. The sitch suation is bad. The
schism between Wilson and the and the Seahawks is really
really poor. They everybody's chosen sides. Pete Carroll wants to
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run the football, brings in an offensive coordinator that's just
gonna piss Russell Wilson off. I think we've passed that
point now, I mean really, I mean, Russell Wilson is
going to get traded, and it's gonna seem like it's
not real. It's gonna seem like it's a dream. But
it's going to happen. It's gonna happen probably by the
beginning of free agency, and Russell Wilson's gonna have a
new team. If I thought you could still go back
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and repair things, I'd say, yeah, But I don't know
the aken anymore, buddy. No other than saying, hey, Pete
Carroll's leaving the building, I think it's a him or
me said now, I'm serious, I And we've said this
for a couple of weeks, kind of talked about power struggles,
and and you've seen bit by bit, little little snippets
of how much uh sway Pete Carroll has in the building,
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the fact that his kids have sway in the building,
and that Russell felt he had no place. I think
it's legitimately, if if you got rid of Pete Carroll,
all's good. Let me work with the new guy. But
he's in a Bill O'Brien scenario with more success. Let's
put it that way, where O'Brien had so much power
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after Bob McNair died until he didn't. And I wonder
if the same thing doesn't happen to Pete Carroll. It's
one thing to keep winning divisions, and you can shuffle
up and deal and and go back at it again.
Eventually the powers uh powers that be one would think
look around and go, okay, this is great, but we're not.
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We're not getting over the hump again, right, We're not
back to legion of Boom dominance. We're not in the
super Bowl, at least with a chance to win it.
So the saltiness, I think, has to set in at
some point, if nothing else. You start reading the message
boards draft day reference Boom, but the suggestion that you
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know from the agent of hey, we'd love to stay
in Seattle, but here's four teams. As soon as you
named the four teams, you you jumped over the imaginary
line in the sand. That was it. Even if it
didn't come out of Russell Wilson's mouth, everything he said
about the firing of Schottenheimer to the appearance on the
Dan Patrick Show. You want to talk about getting run
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for uh what thirty seconds of audio? Um, that might
be one of the greatest snippets of audio of of
the Dan Patrick shows along illustrious run here as part
of Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Media, uh conglomerate.
Here is that Russell Wilson clip talking about how he
didn't know where he fit in Seattle, etcetera. So it
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led to a bunch of speculation. Eventually here's our four teams.
So I think you've gone past the point of no
return again unless you tell Pete Carroll to packs and boxes. Well,
and that's the point I'm gonna make here, And this
is why Russell Wilson is going to get traded. And
it's not a reason that anybody is thrown out there yet. Right,
We've looked at every thing from Russell Wilson's perspective, and
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we even got into, hey, who would you choose to
keep Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll? Right, obviously I think
I choose to keep Russell Wilson. But think about it,
this way, and you'll understand why Russell Wilson is gonna
get traded. At the heart of it, everybody wants to
keep their job when it comes down to it. Whenever
there's some kind of controversy at work, no one wants
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to be the one getting fired unless they're leaving and
and doing something better. Right when there's controversy around, you
circle the wagons around yourself. And and you know now
there's Chris Berman and and no one circles the wagons
like the Buffalo Bills teaching. Uh. You circle the wagons
around yourself because it's about self preservation. Right when things
are happy, like wait, wait, I want to keep this
job here, I'm gonna keep this guy. I don't want
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to go anywhere. I don't want to get fired. Pete
Carroll does not want to get fired as head coach
of the Seattle Seahawks, right, does not want to get fired.
This is why he has to trade Russell Wilson, because
let's just say he doesn't. Right right now, Pete Carroll
has the power. Pete Carroll has all the power in
the organization because Russell Wilson is on the trading block
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right just just of the fact that that's the case
right now, and we know the teams he wants to
go to, and the Seahawks are doing things to minimize
Russell Wilson's importance to the team. You know that Pete
Carroll has the power, so he wants to keep that power,
all right, He wants to keep it if they don't
trade Russell Wilson. And this season goes horribly right, This
run first offense doesn't go well. Chris Carson can't stay healthy,
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and either Russell Wilson bails him out by throwing forty
touchdowns or they just sputter their way to a six
and ten record. What happens after this season? That power
swips of flips, right, it switches. Suddenly Russell Wilson's the
guy going I told you, and Schneider has to sit
back and the Seahawks have to sit back and go, hmmm,
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maybe we need to choose Russell Wilson over Pete Carroll.
And suddenly, guess what, Pete Carroll loses all that power
because he has a bad season, and when it comes
to the dust settling, what are we going to do?
Russell Wilson has the power. He's the guy saying well,
you know, we need a new head coach. We need something.
It's not working anymore, and Pete Carroll is fired. Now
does Pete Carroll get a job someplace else? Probably because
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Pete Carroll is a great coach. But does he want
to leave. No, he wants to be the guy. If
he doesn't trade Russell Wilson and they have a bad season,
he's gone. He knows it. He knows he's gone. Russell
Wilson wins and he's diminished. But if he trades Russell
Wilson before, he's got the power and still it looks
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like it's Russell Wilson's fault, right because Russell Wilson's the
guy that has come out saying I, I you'll have
to ask them. I might want to be traded. Here's
the teams I want to go to right now. There's
a bit of back and forth of yeah, well, why
can't they work this out? But Pete Carroll's not getting
any of the blame. This storyline has been why is
Russell Wilson unhappy? Why does Russell Wilson want out if
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he trades Russell Wilson. It's not controversial because it's well,
we kind of had to do it. He didn't want
to be here anymore. We got what we got. We're
gonna reinvent this team with a new quarterback, Right, what
else do you expect us to do? He wants out,
So you can do it now and still not be
the total bad guy. Yeah, you'd get questioned a bit
of you know what it was. Pete Carroll really know
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what he's doing. I can't believe he pushed Russell Wilson out,
But generally, the the overarching UH storyline is going to
be Wilson was unhappy. He didn't like the way the
team was being run. He wanted out. He was an
upset player. He got his trade. Now the Seahawks they
couldn't make it work, and boy, that was too bad
for them. But now Russell's got his new start, and
now we figure out where things go here and Pete
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Carroll is still the head coach of the Seahawks and
they try to reinvent with a new quarterback and re
redo the team how they want to. They're not spending
all that money and giving it to Russell Wilson. They
can spread it around. They can make the team deep
and good again. You can bring back more guys, legion
of boom and suddenly you can be back to where
you are and you draft a new quarterback and you
try to hit it big again. That's the that's the
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future for Pete Carroll and and a Seattle Seahawks. It
doesn't happen that way. If they keep Wilson they have
a bad year. It's too big of a gamble to say,
let's go and see how works, because if it doesn't,
Pete Carroll's out. So this is why he's got to
trade him now while he still has the power in
the organization, because as time goes on and they think
he's not gonna have it. And we're not talking about
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that part of it, but when you think about self preservation,
that's what pushes everything over the top. That Russell Wilson's
gonna be on a new team sometime the next two
or three weeks. You know what, though, if he does
stay and they have a bad season, how many people
will still turn it on Russell Wilson saying well, he
powered all off season, he created a problem in the
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locker room. That it's not Pete Carroll's fault. We don't
how these narratives go right. You saw how angry people
got with Russell after the couple of comments. You don't
say anything too inflammatory, just hey, I wanted to see
it at the table that the big part of it
was that we never heard Russell Wilson talk like that,
and that's why it became such a big right. I mean,
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it was always hey, go Hawks, you know we we
lose as a team, all all of the usual platitudes
that you would get from a quarterback. And then suddenly
he broke character or just decided to voice what he
may have been saying behind the scenes, which whichever you
want to prefer. And I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm
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just saying human nature is someone starts acting differently, what
do you do? You get suspicious? And if you're a
fan base and that's been your guy, like why doesn't
he love us anymore? He's talking against the team, he
doesn't want to be part of the team anymore, and
all of a sudden you're angry at him. And if
he stays for a year and it goes south, he'll
get more blamed than Pete Carroll will. And then you
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can get your parting parting of the ways. And it's
a it's pet Carroll still reigns supreme. Yeah, but if
they were just going into this season and it was
gonna be the same team, I would say, Okay, you
could be right about that. But they're changing the philosophy
of the team. They are taking the all out of
Russell Wilson's hands, and that's the big thing that's gonna
get them all the blame is that they want to
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run the football more. They want to be more of
a power type offense. And if that doesn't work, that's
not gonna be Russell Wilson's fault. What are people gonna say, uhs,
Russell Wilsons, I didn't throw four touchdowns. He threw twenty
four times on Sunday. How many touch ones here gonna throw?
And he throws the ball twenty four times. They gotta
be more efficient Smith, he had the running game he needed.
He's gotta be more efficient when those he's got to
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go twenty four for four touchdowns. Damn right. Because they
decided to make that change, that's what's going to be
the killer thing, because then then you're, well, that's that's
the blame on the offense. They shifted the offense and
they change things and now it's not going right, and
that's gonna Pete Carl's gonna lose all the power and
all the momentum very very quickly. And it's not that
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Russell Wilson is gonna sit back and revel in it.
But you see, you see how how he can do things. Now,
you see how very publicly he can say some things
and turn things. You think he's not gonna try to
turn that around behind the scenes, of course he is.
Of course he is. And and we could be at
this point next year and you get the day after
the regular season and it's okay, it's him for me.
I'm gone after this, I'm I'm I'm it's him for me.
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I'm gone. Okay, Russell, all right, we're all good. We're
all good. Well, we're gonna get you a new contract,
we get a new coach, and Pete Carroll's out, and
that's how it's gonna end. More power. It's a beautiful
theater to uh to roll up, especially now that the
Rams have shuffled up their quarterback position and look ready
to to try to make a run, you know, to
a super Bowl. It's so fi and the forty Niners
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will make a move at their quarterback position. Jimmy g
is not gonna be there, guy uh and then Arizona
added J. J. Watt. This is fun theater. Good luck,
Pete Carroll, good luck navigating this one. Twitter and out
about a Fresca Mike gets swollen done the Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I mean, I
am I am conditioned now that any day for the
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next three weeks, I can wake up and see a
big trade in the National Football League, and it's probably
gonna be Russell Wilson. Like I could wake up any
day and think, all right, the most likely guy to
get traded first is Wilson, then the next guy will
be Donald and then but I think we need a
little bit more before it's one of those wake up
in the morning and find out DeShawn Watson's traded, Like,
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for instance, we're gonna need stories that hey, the Texans
are actually on the phone calling teams back now. So
But but really, I mean, any day I can wake
up and is today the day is Russell Wilson traded? Today?
Is is he? Is he get trade? Where is it?
It's Wilson and it's Donald? Are those two guys that
any day I can wake up and say, boom, this
is gonna happen, and here's where it goes, and it
will happen fast, all right. It's it's gonna be behind
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the scenes. We figured out a trade. It's going on,
and we're done, and we're doing it. We made this
trade and we're moving on. I mean, any day now,
from now to the beginning of free agency, and probably
a little bit after we can we can wake up
and see that story. I have no doubt. And and
somewhere along the way, the Jets and Bears will be
involved in one of those stories, which means all night
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long it'll be Bear Down Chicago Bears or video of
Fireman in hey man, look, I wish that that's could
get Russell Wilson, but that's just not happening, man. I mean,
just think that those draft picks they traded away for,
they traded for Jamal Adams is just gonna send back.
I mean it's not. There will be more than enough suitors.
There'll be more. I already know I'm gonna wake up.
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It's not going to be the Jets, right, They're not
gonna have that embarrassing headline of well, those two picks
we gave you. Just give them back to us in
one more and you can have Russell Wilson. Now it's
too embarrassing. I already know it's not going to be
the Jets, so and I'm okay with it. I'm okay
with that. I know it's not going to be the
Jets because Zach Wilson's gonna be a future Hall of Famer.
So I'm all right with that. It's not going to
be the Jets. It's not gonna be Just made a
small jump there. I like that. I did. I did.
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It's it's a tiny jump, but it's still has jumped nonetheless.
So just think about that freezing the self preservation why
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we have more big quarterback news coming up in a
couple of minutes. Says, Hey, somebody else is now out
there for anybody to sign, and there's a couple of
teams that should go after him. Boy, anytime I say
quarterback tights. It's gonna keep playing that tebow thing. It's
gonna keep that experiment. It's gonna get you said quarterback, booms,
keep it meted there. You say city, he yells Cleveland,
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you say quarterback, it's t yeah, association, I get it.
And you say batman, and it's oh, why did I
do that? So stupid? Stupid? On on on on on
on on a batman. Yeah, those are the three big
Pavlovian things on the show. What the word I just said?
City and quarterback and suddenly bing bing bing. It just
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happens that way. But we we lost a big legend today.
You probably saw this story. Mark Pavilch, one of the
best players the miracle on ice team Team USA that
that won the gold medal in the in Olympics, died
at the age of sixty three earlier today. He was
found dead at a treatment facility in Minnesota. Now, Pavlich
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has not had a great life. He is someone who
really didn't like the spotlight, lived alone by himself after
his hockey career was over, and had a lot of
uh mental issues. Uh that manifests themselves in an assault
from a couple of years ago with a guy. He
was ice fishing with um you know, uh, potentially a
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lot of his his family say, well, he had a
lot of concussions and and we think he might have
had CTE and this contributed to his erratic behavior. He
didn't come to a lot of of the uh reunions
for the Miracle on Ice team. In fact, when he
came a few years ago, it was the story, hey
Pavlich is here, Oh my god, Oh my god, because
they knew the guy was having a lot of trouble.
He didn't see anybody, and details are not known. He
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was living in a treatment facility now because it was
difficult for him to live on his own. And he
was found dead earlier today at the age of sixty three.
And you know, Pavlich was a guy who he was.
You know, he's one of the cone heads on on
the Miracle team. And I assisted on Mike Rusionis goal,
had the main assist on a Russions goal. And he
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had a really good career uh in the years after
the Olympics, Like he wasn't on an on an NHL
team after the Olympics and he joined the Rangers. He
was a pointed game guy for like five years I mean,
he he had an outstanding five years, uh five plus
years with the Rangers after the miracle on ice happened
for him, and you know then he ran into difficulty
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you know, later on in life. But he was a
really good player. Man. He was tough, he was undersized,
he was a terrific player. And you know, growing up
in New York, uh, you know, listen, you know I
rooted for the Islanders growing up, and you know, the
Islanders versus Rangers. And the main thing is that pavlid. Look.
I hated all the Rangers players, right, Obviously, the Islander
fan hate all the Rangers players. Couldn't stand them, right
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the y you know, the Islanders were excellence and the
Rangers were, hey, hey, you know where we're the real
the real stars where this It's kind of like Yankees
in the Red Sox, right, Like the Yankees are the
the excellence, the Red Sox are the everyman team, right,
And uh, it was easy to hate all the Rangers,
like all the guys can't stand this guy, can't stand
this guy. Mark Pavlich was really hard to dislike, you know,
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as an Islander fan. He was really hard because he
was so good and He always made the big plays
and he was someone that you could you could see
boy that he's a small guy and he still plays
big on the ice. Uh, you know he was. He
was a terrific, terrific player. And it's it's a sad
story today, a sad ending uh to his life now
at such a young age. Always tied to her Brooks.
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That's where he had his most success. Obviously Olympic team,
and then with the Rangers. As soon as Brooks wasn't there,
he started fighting with everybody, uh, and that became a problem.
Uh five ft eight, so he had a little bit
of H. Well, the attitude that I bring to the
table each and every night here on Shock Sports training
you're all taller than May doesn't matter, and still nuts
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about personal life tragic. I mean you can go through
the law dread list of stuff and and the sad
part of the later years of you know, concussions perhaps
leading uh to more brain trauma and then you know,
help mental health issues and the assault that you reference.
He also auctioned his metal off since you have to
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auction off the Olympic medal. But perhaps I mean again,
you know, sometimes it's just financial. Sometimes it's ay, I
need to let go of this. I've had it long enough.
Like there's many ways those kind of things come to market,
and and nowadays, you know, the market being white hot.
Like we talked about that Tom Brady card yesterday, I
wouldn't be surprised if a couple of guys were looking
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around at each other going, Uh, yeah, I can, I
can get generational wealth off my metal right now. But uh,
for him, as you mentioned, you know, there's there's just
the part of the privacy and and getting away from
it that also was part of what he wanted to
do uh later in his life. So hopefully they find
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some of the answers the family that they need, uh
to to find some peace hopefully, you know. Unfortunately he
didn't find that piece while alive. Reminder, always give out
a call, you know, looking on your people. We've been
telling you all during the pandemic, we're not out of it,
and even once we're out of it, still check in
on your people, damn it. But yeah, the changes in
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in his makeup and how he treated people, et cetera.
Is noted in pretty much every article you read about it.
Watch a bunch of highlights undersized, but still throwing his
body around. A reminder to all of you as well. Uh,
the size of your heart can't be measured, just like
they said in miracle, you know. And and let's let's
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let's let's uh, you know, finish this conversation on a
highne with Mark Pavloch and talk about the assist on
the goal, because everybody remembers the goal and it's a
ruzione he gets he gets the puck, he's just inside
the blue line, and he skates in and he uses
a defender as a screen and he puts the puck
by Michkin for the goal that wins the beats the Russians,
right most famous goal in in hockey history. And Pavlich
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makes this play happen. Uh. The United States dumps the
puck in, but Russia gets to it and tries to
get it out, and pavl its just his sheer desire
getting to a puck right before the forward comes back
to grab the puck away and and and then there's
no play like he gets all the way to the
boards just a split second before the forward gets it,
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and he gives up his body right into the boards
that he can just deflect the puck back where it
gets to a Eruzioni and Erusione puts the puck in
the net. I mean, that's one of those hustle heart
timing plays where I gotta get this puck, I gotta
keep it in and and that's why I'm gonna give
up my body here and go fly into the boards.
And he makes that play happen. It's just a quick
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play where he gets it, he deflects it off his
stick and kind of shoves it out and a Ruzione
gets it and scores. But that is some kind of
play we you know, we don't talk about the setup
of the play a lot because that that play is
just you know, Rusioni goal is is so iconic, and
and and the the shot of him and and then
Michekin falling backwards after the puck is behind him. I mean,
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we have these images that are so great. But watch
that play again and watch just he comes out of
nowhere and he gets right in front of the forward
and he's able to grab the puck and flies into
the boards. You can see him turn around like maybe
he's dazed a little bit, like did I get it?
Did I get it? And Ruzione gets it in scores.
It is some kind of play by Pavlich to make
that happen. Without that, I mean, who knows what happens.
I mean, clearly there's there's there's all kinds of jigsaw
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puzzle things that go into big plays. But Pavlog making
that play, got the puck to Rusioni, and Russioni puts
it in, and the best sports story of my lifetime
is born. Look at you. You're like a little little
Jason Smith all over again. Oh man, I'll tell you
that was that. That goal is just something the only
goal Ruzione had in the entire tournament. And you know
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it was there and it was just some kind of
play man. So I've been watching it again for the
past five minutes, going this is Pavlich just gets right
there and goes flying into the boards and there's a
puck and there's a Rusioni and he puts it in.
See that's what good get you on a team. Reminder
all you tell your kids out there, man Hark played
through the reverberation of the whistle. If you're on the pitch,
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you gotta use your body. Get in there. Don't be afraid.
We got more coming. Up in ninety seconds. Rest in peace.
Mark Pavelich has some kind of career. He had US
Miracle and Ice Olympic champion. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. So you just
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heard the story about Alex Smith released by the Washington
football team. Uh, there's some fits for him and I
would sign him as a backup right now. Now, there
there's a good and rough part of this for Alex
Smith because you know, look, we spent a lot of
time talking about him. He is when you talk about perseverance.
It's his picture in the dictionary, right, seventeen surgeries he
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went through to try to get back on the field.
He gets back on the field this year for Washington.
While he didn't really play all that well, his leadership,
his influenced UH, steadied the team and looking they wound
up winning. Uh, the NFC NFC East, even though look
they were terrible, but they wound up winning. And it's
a it's a great part of this story that is
still not done being written for Alex Mus because clearly
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the guy can still play. Is he going to start anymore?
That's not gonna happen, all right. It's number one, he's
not dynamic enough to be able to start. You need
somebody more dynamic a quarterback, and you don't know if
he's going to be able to make it through a
season and not be hurt like he missed a couple
of games with the bone bruise this year, and so clearly,
you know, look, your thirty seven, you've been through a lot,
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a lot just to get back. You only have so
much football in you. But if he was someone to
sign somewhere where he's a backup, and if he had
to play a couple of games here and there, oh,
I could see that easily, and I go after him.
You know, that's that's that's all good. I say yes,
sign me up for al Smith right now where he
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could be a great influence in the quarterback room and
on the team. And if something happened and your quarterback
got hurt and he couldn't play for a week or two, hey,
Alex Smith can come in and play a couple of games. Right,
There's many worse guys to have out there as smart
as he is. Being able to pick up the offense
right away, you wouldn't miss a beat. He's still mobile
enough to be able to get outside the pocket and
make plays. He'd be He's in a perfect situation right there.
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Teams like, you know, a return to San Francisco, we're
backing up Jimmy Garoppolo where Jimmy's the guy. But if
Jimmy gets hurt, then Alex Smith can get in Miami.
If something happens with TWA, you need to pull him
because like Ryan Fitzpatrick wants to start somewhere again this year, uh,
he would be a great influence on to it. If
something happened to is having a bad game. Brian Flores
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wanted to put Alex Smith in that could happen New
England if he was gonna be the backup, mentoring whoever
the Patriots got, uh whatever they wound up doing for
the for the uh, for the season. There are some
big time fits where he can be a mentor and
a guy with a chance to play if it came
to it. And that's kind of how you'd have to
sell it to him and say, listen, this is your
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best opportunity right now. You're somewhere, You're you're clearly the backup,
clearly the backup. But if something happens and we get
into a long run of inefficiency or an injury, you
can play. And the teams where that's possible right there
are San Francisco, Miami and potentially New England depending on
what they wind up doing. So the team. Look, many
teams can take him as a backup quarterback and say, hey,
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you'd be great right here. Man. You can you can
back up our young guy, you can back up Jared
Goff in Detroit. You can do so many places there
would fit. But for him, he'd want the opportunity to play.
And so where's the opportunity where I know him the backup,
but I could get on the field. That's the best
thing for him. And that's why those teams are the
best fit. Yeah. I think when you look at a
team like Jacksonville, whether Trevor Lawrence is ready or not,
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you look at where the other rookies come in the
mentor role. Uh, you know, the Ryan Fitzpatrick Miami role.
And we still have to find a place for him. Uh.
Denver has been perhaps a little bit for the next
Beard as he continues his journey. I'd like to see
him in New England because I think that'd be fun
a couple of smart guys going at it, uh, in
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terms of setting up that offense. But San Francisco doesn't
work for me. And I'll tell you why. They're just
coming off the season where the biggest complaint is they
didn't have a ready quarterback. So if Jimmy G's constantly hurt,
the last thing I want is another guy that let's
face it, uh, do I have great confidence over a
long on and it's it's not a slide against the man,
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it's where his body is. Well it's well, yeah, no,
I get it. But it looks so that the backup
is got to be more longer term solution. Then all right,
he's a good stop gap for a couple of games. Well,
I think that's how you have to look at the
backup though. If you're if your starter is out for
the majority of the season, it's it's a law season, right,
I mean that, No, no matter who you have is
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the back of it's gonna be a law season. So
you need to look at, Okay, what's our best way
to succeed If our quarterback, it's certain, misses a game
or two here and there, then Alex Smith can come
in and play for a game or two. But if
if your guys out for you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, you know,
gets hurt week three and doesn't come back until week thirteen,
the season is over by then, you know, that doesn't
matter who you have coming in as backup. Who's gonna
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suddenly grab the team by the by the scruff of
the throat and say, yeah, no, I'm good, We're all good.
I'm going in here and I'm we're gonna be eight
and one while while Jimmy Garoppolo is out. I I
don't think that's in the realm of possibility. You have
to look at it as if our guy gets hurt
for a couple of games where we're not lost, and
we could maybe split those games. If he's out for
two weeks, we can go one and one, you know,
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if he's out for a week and maybe we can
squeeze out a win. That's kind of how I look
at it as all Right, if you have the disaster
scenario of a guy being out for the city, then
there's nothing you can do about it. But how can
you keep you a float for a couple of weeks. Yeah,
I think it's just more from the as you're planning
your your squad, going to the quarterback room and just saying,
all right, we got two guys. We don't know what
we're gonna get week to week. From a health perspective,
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I can't. I can't do it if I'm John Lynch
and the brain trust there in San Francisco, because you know, look,
you're banking on the rest of that squad to get
healthy because they they need Kyrie sagebrush. I know I
referenced it with some regularity, but there's some bad, bad
stuff between that and the Chargers locker room. Those those
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are two places you come and wipe it out, because
look at all the guys that missed ample time. They
might have been bad, It might have been okay had
they not had Moster, Debot and Kittle all out, maybe
Jimmy g they would have still been able to weather
the storm. Will never know, but that that is certainly
something in the offing. But to all the uh, to
the young young players, I don't know that you can
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get a better guy in the locker room to work
with him, except for maybe the aforementioned neck beard to
the same draft class. By the way you think about
that man that's Fitzpatrick was a member of the Rams
to start things. It's a that was before Ryan Fitzpatrick
was more than you know, he's a smart quarterback. You
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know he went to Harvard. You know he's he's a
really really at that point, he was just a jag
who was one of the last cards inserted in the
two thousand five Bowman set. Something fast we could put
him in. Yeah, let's let's get him. All right, great, great,
we got him. We're all well. It was a bigger set,
so they always had more rookies than the other stuff.
(31:20):
So like he had guys that I barely got out
of the first spring training game before they got our
training camp game. So I'm in spring training mode, but
training camp game before they got caught. It's like, yeah,
like I never sniffed at NFL field again. But if
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Studios where the University of Kansas has placed head football
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coach Less Miles on administrative leave and there's going to
be a full review conducted to determine the appropriate next
steps on his future. This decision coming after a report
into miles conduct while he was the head coach at
LSU now was made public this week that on Thursday,
a report from LSU showed that in and internal investigation
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at the school accused less Miles of inappropriate behavior towards
female students, including allegations that he contacted some via Facebook
and text, he met them off campus, he kissed at
least one of them. The report didn't find he had
sexual relationships with any of the women, and Miles strongly
denies kissing the student, but the punishment at the time
for less Miles was he's not allowed to be around
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female students by himself. Now, that should be the big
thing that everybody takes away from this is that, Okay,
so all this stuff going on, and I understand, but
you have a head coach who was in charge of
young men throughout this. He's he's the biggest person on campus,
and you have to put out a rule saying he's
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not allowed to be alone with female students. You're so
concerned about his behavior that you have to say you're
not allowed to be around female students by yourself. But
it's okay, you can still coach. And look and I
get it's it's it's it's such a big cliche. He
was in the middle of a huge run at that
time at l s U. He's won a national title.
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He's the best head coach they had, so we're gonna
find a way to keep him. But just think about that.
He wasn't allowed to be a loan with a female student,
but it was okay for to still be the head
football coach. I mean, that's like everything that's wrong with sports,
you know, all the way in one thing. And we've
had so many stories about this the past few months,
in past few years that I just I just shake
my head and go, at some point we're gonna get
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it right, right, I mean, at some point. I mean
maybe not today, hopefully tomorrow. But clearly this is something
that even just a few years ago, this was able
to go by the boards, eight hours of sexual harassment counseling,
banned from the one on one interactions. As you said,
hundred fifty page investigated report into sexual misconduct at the school,
and there was the then athletic director that recommended at
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the time that he'd be fired for cause, and then
outside counsel decided that the complaints did not constitute sexual
harassment under the law and that they'd lose an O M.
Fifteen million dollars. Well, there you go. What's what's the cost.
It's gonna be a hell of a lot more than
fifteen million dollars to to all the universities involved. Because
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right now, you know, even though he's been he's not
administrative leave. I got to imagine there's also a hey,
we got anything we need to look at here? And
these are always the call to actions, uh, the calls
to action across the country. Whenever a new case like
this emerges, it's the all right, what's the skeletons? What
we got in our history to have we had any
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investigations that we should be apprized of anything that's been untoward. Uh,
that's been talked about in the hallways. Let's go open
it up. Less Miles might probably coached his last college
football game. Yeah, I mean, look, it's not like what's
saved and and it's kind of ironic that what saved
him last time was Hey, I'm in the middle of
a great run here at l s U. I mean
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in two years he's three and eighteen, right, there were
owing nine last year. Okay, so it's not like, boy,
well he's a great coach of Kansas. Now this is
where it could come full circle and well, you know what,
you weren't winning games anyway, so now now you're finally
gonna pay for what happened a few years ago. I
could end up that way. We'll keep you posted on
this story with more developments on it as it continues
to come to us, but coming up X Tay, We're
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tonight as we get set for All Star weekend, but
plenty of big NFL news and headlines to get to.
And oh boy, you know, we got into it a
little bit with Jason Cole a few minutes ago about
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the situation in Seattle with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll,
and you know this is This is the second time
that that Cole's come on with us Mike and said,
you know, at some point someone's gonna go in to
Pete Carroll's office and say, dude, what are you doing.
It's the best quarterback we've ever had. What is going
on here? Why are you doing it this way? And
the thing is, I don't know that you can still
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do that. I don't know that you haven't passed the
point of Newhek And we haven't passed the rubicon, and
we and and just something's gonna have to happen because
things were bad for a while, and that was the
time when someone needed to go to Pete Carroll and go, dude,
what are you doing? Why are you alienating our quarterback?
Why are you doing this? He's the best thing that
ever happened in this franchise. We won a super Bowl,
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We should have won another one if you would run
the football. Why are you trying to push him out
of town? That was a conversation to have, you know,
a month or two ago. Now you've let it fester.
He's clearly not happy. The sitch suation is bad. The
schism between Wilson and the and the Seahawks is really
really poor. They everybody's chosen sides. Pete Carroll wants to
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run the football, brings in an offensive coordinator that's just
gonna piss Russell Wilson off. I think we've passed that
point now, I mean really, I mean, Russell Wilson is
going to get traded, and it's gonna seem like it's
not real. It's gonna seem like it's a dream. But
it's going to happen. It's gonna happen probably by the
beginning of free agency, and Russell Wilson's gonna have a
new team. If I thought you could still go back
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and repair things, I'd say, yeah, But I don't know
the aken anymore, buddy. No other than saying, hey, Pete
Carroll's leaving the building, I think it's a him or
me said now, I'm serious, I And we've said this
for a couple of weeks, kind of talked about power struggles,
and and you've seen bit by bit, little little snippets
of how much uh sway Pete Carroll has in the building,
(02:52):
the fact that his kids have sway in the building,
and that Russell felt he had no place. I think
it's legitimately, if if you got rid of Pete Carroll,
all's good. Let me work with the new guy. But
he's in a Bill O'Brien scenario with more success. Let's
put it that way, where O'Brien had so much power
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after Bob McNair died until he didn't. And I wonder
if the same thing doesn't happen to Pete Carroll. It's
one thing to keep winning divisions, and you can shuffle
up and deal and and go back at it again.
Eventually the powers uh powers that be one would think
look around and go, okay, this is great, but we're not.
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We're not getting over the hump again, right, We're not
back to legion of Boom dominance. We're not in the
super Bowl, at least with a chance to win it.
So the saltiness, I think, has to set in at
some point, if nothing else. You start reading the message
boards draft day reference Boom, but the suggestion that you
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know from the agent of hey, we'd love to stay
in Seattle, but here's four teams. As soon as you
named the four teams, you you jumped over the imaginary
line in the sand. That was it. Even if it
didn't come out of Russell Wilson's mouth, everything he said
about the firing of Schottenheimer to the appearance on the
Dan Patrick Show. You want to talk about getting run
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for uh what thirty seconds of audio? Um, that might
be one of the greatest snippets of audio of of
the Dan Patrick shows along illustrious run here as part
of Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Media, uh conglomerate.
Here is that Russell Wilson clip talking about how he
didn't know where he fit in Seattle, etcetera. So it
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led to a bunch of speculation. Eventually here's our four teams.
So I think you've gone past the point of no
return again unless you tell Pete Carroll to packs and boxes. Well,
and that's the point I'm gonna make here, And this
is why Russell Wilson is going to get traded. And
it's not a reason that anybody is thrown out there yet. Right,
We've looked at every thing from Russell Wilson's perspective, and
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we even got into, hey, who would you choose to
keep Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll? Right, obviously I think
I choose to keep Russell Wilson. But think about it,
this way, and you'll understand why Russell Wilson is gonna
get traded. At the heart of it, everybody wants to
keep their job when it comes down to it. Whenever
there's some kind of controversy at work, no one wants
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to be the one getting fired unless they're leaving and
and doing something better. Right when there's controversy around, you
circle the wagons around yourself. And and you know now
there's Chris Berman and and no one circles the wagons
like the Buffalo Bills teaching. Uh. You circle the wagons
around yourself because it's about self preservation. Right when things
are happy, like wait, wait, I want to keep this
job here, I'm gonna keep this guy. I don't want
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to go anywhere. I don't want to get fired. Pete
Carroll does not want to get fired as head coach
of the Seattle Seahawks, right, does not want to get fired.
This is why he has to trade Russell Wilson, because
let's just say he doesn't. Right right now, Pete Carroll
has the power. Pete Carroll has all the power in
the organization because Russell Wilson is on the trading block
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right just just of the fact that that's the case
right now, and we know the teams he wants to
go to, and the Seahawks are doing things to minimize
Russell Wilson's importance to the team. You know that Pete
Carroll has the power, so he wants to keep that power,
all right, He wants to keep it if they don't
trade Russell Wilson. And this season goes horribly right, This
run first offense doesn't go well. Chris Carson can't stay healthy,
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and either Russell Wilson bails him out by throwing forty
touchdowns or they just sputter their way to a six
and ten record. What happens after this season? That power
swips of flips, right, it switches. Suddenly Russell Wilson's the
guy going I told you, and Schneider has to sit
back and the Seahawks have to sit back and go, hmmm,
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maybe we need to choose Russell Wilson over Pete Carroll.
And suddenly, guess what, Pete Carroll loses all that power
because he has a bad season, and when it comes
to the dust settling, what are we going to do?
Russell Wilson has the power. He's the guy saying well,
you know, we need a new head coach. We need something.
It's not working anymore, and Pete Carroll is fired. Now
does Pete Carroll get a job someplace else? Probably because
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Pete Carroll is a great coach. But does he want
to leave. No, he wants to be the guy. If
he doesn't trade Russell Wilson and they have a bad season,
he's gone. He knows it. He knows he's gone. Russell
Wilson wins and he's diminished. But if he trades Russell
Wilson before, he's got the power and still it looks
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like it's Russell Wilson's fault, right because Russell Wilson's the
guy that has come out saying I, I you'll have
to ask them. I might want to be traded. Here's
the teams I want to go to right now. There's
a bit of back and forth of yeah, well, why
can't they work this out? But Pete Carroll's not getting
any of the blame. This storyline has been why is
Russell Wilson unhappy? Why does Russell Wilson want out if
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he trades Russell Wilson. It's not controversial because it's well,
we kind of had to do it. He didn't want
to be here anymore. We got what we got. We're
gonna reinvent this team with a new quarterback, Right, what
else do you expect us to do? He wants out,
So you can do it now and still not be
the total bad guy. Yeah, you'd get questioned a bit
of you know what it was. Pete Carroll really know
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what he's doing. I can't believe he pushed Russell Wilson out,
But generally, the the overarching UH storyline is going to
be Wilson was unhappy. He didn't like the way the
team was being run. He wanted out. He was an
upset player. He got his trade. Now the Seahawks they
couldn't make it work, and boy, that was too bad
for them. But now Russell's got his new start, and
now we figure out where things go here and Pete
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Carroll is still the head coach of the Seahawks and
they try to reinvent with a new quarterback and re
redo the team how they want to. They're not spending
all that money and giving it to Russell Wilson. They
can spread it around. They can make the team deep
and good again. You can bring back more guys, legion
of boom and suddenly you can be back to where
you are and you draft a new quarterback and you
try to hit it big again. That's the that's the
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future for Pete Carroll and and a Seattle Seahawks. It
doesn't happen that way. If they keep Wilson they have
a bad year. It's too big of a gamble to say,
let's go and see how works, because if it doesn't,
Pete Carroll's out. So this is why he's got to
trade him now while he still has the power in
the organization, because as time goes on and they think
he's not gonna have it. And we're not talking about
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that part of it, but when you think about self preservation,
that's what pushes everything over the top. That Russell Wilson's
gonna be on a new team sometime the next two
or three weeks. You know what, though, if he does
stay and they have a bad season, how many people
will still turn it on Russell Wilson saying well, he
powered all off season, he created a problem in the
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locker room. That it's not Pete Carroll's fault. We don't
how these narratives go right. You saw how angry people
got with Russell after the couple of comments. You don't
say anything too inflammatory, just hey, I wanted to see
it at the table that the big part of it
was that we never heard Russell Wilson talk like that,
and that's why it became such a big right. I mean,
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it was always hey, go Hawks, you know we we
lose as a team, all all of the usual platitudes
that you would get from a quarterback. And then suddenly
he broke character or just decided to voice what he
may have been saying behind the scenes, which whichever you
want to prefer. And I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm
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just saying human nature is someone starts acting differently, what
do you do? You get suspicious? And if you're a
fan base and that's been your guy, like why doesn't
he love us anymore? He's talking against the team, he
doesn't want to be part of the team anymore, and
all of a sudden you're angry at him. And if
he stays for a year and it goes south, he'll
get more blamed than Pete Carroll will. And then you
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can get your parting parting of the ways. And it's
a it's pet Carroll still reigns supreme. Yeah, but if
they were just going into this season and it was
gonna be the same team, I would say, Okay, you
could be right about that. But they're changing the philosophy
of the team. They are taking the all out of
Russell Wilson's hands, and that's the big thing that's gonna
get them all the blame is that they want to
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run the football more. They want to be more of
a power type offense. And if that doesn't work, that's
not gonna be Russell Wilson's fault. What are people gonna say, uhs,
Russell Wilsons, I didn't throw four touchdowns. He threw twenty
four times on Sunday. How many touch ones here gonna throw?
And he throws the ball twenty four times. They gotta
be more efficient Smith, he had the running game he needed.
He's gotta be more efficient when those he's got to
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go twenty four for four touchdowns. Damn right. Because they
decided to make that change, that's what's going to be
the killer thing, because then then you're, well, that's that's
the blame on the offense. They shifted the offense and
they change things and now it's not going right, and
that's gonna Pete Carl's gonna lose all the power and
all the momentum very very quickly. And it's not that
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Russell Wilson is gonna sit back and revel in it.
But you see, you see how how he can do things. Now,
you see how very publicly he can say some things
and turn things. You think he's not gonna try to
turn that around behind the scenes, of course he is.
Of course he is. And and we could be at
this point next year and you get the day after
the regular season and it's okay, it's him for me.
I'm gone after this, I'm I'm I'm it's him for me.
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I'm gone. Okay, Russell, all right, we're all good. We're
all good. Well, we're gonna get you a new contract,
we get a new coach, and Pete Carroll's out, and
that's how it's gonna end. More power. It's a beautiful
theater to uh to roll up, especially now that the
Rams have shuffled up their quarterback position and look ready
to to try to make a run, you know, to
a super Bowl. It's so fi and the forty Niners
(12:29):
will make a move at their quarterback position. Jimmy g
is not gonna be there, guy uh and then Arizona
added J. J. Watt. This is fun theater. Good luck,
Pete Carroll, good luck navigating this one. Twitter and out
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Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I mean, I
am I am conditioned now that any day for the
(12:50):
next three weeks, I can wake up and see a
big trade in the National Football League, and it's probably
gonna be Russell Wilson. Like I could wake up any
day and think, all right, the most likely guy to
get traded first is Wilson, then the next guy will
be Donald and then but I think we need a
little bit more before it's one of those wake up
in the morning and find out DeShawn Watson's traded, Like,
(13:11):
for instance, we're gonna need stories that hey, the Texans
are actually on the phone calling teams back now. So
But but really, I mean, any day I can wake
up and is today the day is Russell Wilson traded? Today?
Is is he? Is he get trade? Where is it?
It's Wilson and it's Donald? Are those two guys that
any day I can wake up and say, boom, this
is gonna happen, and here's where it goes, and it
will happen fast, all right. It's it's gonna be behind
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the scenes. We figured out a trade. It's going on,
and we're done, and we're doing it. We made this
trade and we're moving on. I mean, any day now,
from now to the beginning of free agency, and probably
a little bit after we can we can wake up
and see that story. I have no doubt. And and
somewhere along the way, the Jets and Bears will be
involved in one of those stories, which means all night
(13:52):
long it'll be Bear Down Chicago Bears or video of
Fireman in hey man, look, I wish that that's could
get Russell Wilson, but that's just not happening, man. I mean,
just think that those draft picks they traded away for,
they traded for Jamal Adams is just gonna send back.
I mean it's not. There will be more than enough suitors.
There'll be more. I already know I'm gonna wake up.
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It's not going to be the Jets, right, They're not
gonna have that embarrassing headline of well, those two picks
we gave you. Just give them back to us in
one more and you can have Russell Wilson. Now it's
too embarrassing. I already know it's not going to be
the Jets, so and I'm okay with it. I'm okay
with that. I know it's not going to be the
Jets because Zach Wilson's gonna be a future Hall of Famer.
So I'm all right with that. It's not going to
be the Jets. It's not gonna be Just made a
small jump there. I like that. I did. I did.
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It's it's a tiny jump, but it's still has jumped nonetheless.
So just think about that freezing the self preservation why
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we have more big quarterback news coming up in a
couple of minutes. Says, Hey, somebody else is now out
there for anybody to sign, and there's a couple of
teams that should go after him. Boy, anytime I say
quarterback tights. It's gonna keep playing that tebow thing. It's
gonna keep that experiment. It's gonna get you said quarterback, booms,
keep it meted there. You say city, he yells Cleveland,
(16:26):
you say quarterback, it's t yeah, association, I get it.
And you say batman, and it's oh, why did I
do that? So stupid? Stupid? On on on on on
on on a batman. Yeah, those are the three big
Pavlovian things on the show. What the word I just said?
City and quarterback and suddenly bing bing bing. It just
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happens that way. But we we lost a big legend today.
You probably saw this story. Mark Pavilch, one of the
best players the miracle on ice team Team USA that
that won the gold medal in the in Olympics, died
at the age of sixty three earlier today. He was
found dead at a treatment facility in Minnesota. Now, Pavlich
(17:09):
has not had a great life. He is someone who
really didn't like the spotlight, lived alone by himself after
his hockey career was over, and had a lot of
uh mental issues. Uh that manifests themselves in an assault
from a couple of years ago with a guy. He
was ice fishing with um you know, uh, potentially a
(17:30):
lot of his his family say, well, he had a
lot of concussions and and we think he might have
had CTE and this contributed to his erratic behavior. He
didn't come to a lot of of the uh reunions
for the Miracle on Ice team. In fact, when he
came a few years ago, it was the story, hey
Pavlich is here, Oh my god, Oh my god, because
they knew the guy was having a lot of trouble.
He didn't see anybody, and details are not known. He
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was living in a treatment facility now because it was
difficult for him to live on his own. And he
was found dead earlier today at the age of sixty three.
And you know, Pavlich was a guy who he was.
You know, he's one of the cone heads on on
the Miracle team. And I assisted on Mike Rusionis goal,
had the main assist on a Russions goal. And he
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had a really good career uh in the years after
the Olympics, Like he wasn't on an on an NHL
team after the Olympics and he joined the Rangers. He
was a pointed game guy for like five years I mean,
he he had an outstanding five years, uh five plus
years with the Rangers after the miracle on ice happened
for him, and you know then he ran into difficulty
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you know, later on in life. But he was a
really good player. Man. He was tough, he was undersized,
he was a terrific player. And you know, growing up
in New York, uh, you know, listen, you know I
rooted for the Islanders growing up, and you know, the
Islanders versus Rangers. And the main thing is that pavlid. Look.
I hated all the Rangers players, right, Obviously, the Islander
fan hate all the Rangers players. Couldn't stand them, right
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the y you know, the Islanders were excellence and the
Rangers were, hey, hey, you know where we're the real
the real stars where this It's kind of like Yankees
in the Red Sox, right, Like the Yankees are the
the excellence, the Red Sox are the everyman team, right,
And uh, it was easy to hate all the Rangers,
like all the guys can't stand this guy, can't stand
this guy. Mark Pavlich was really hard to dislike, you know,
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as an Islander fan. He was really hard because he
was so good and He always made the big plays
and he was someone that you could you could see
boy that he's a small guy and he still plays
big on the ice. Uh, you know he was. He
was a terrific, terrific player. And it's it's a sad
story today, a sad ending uh to his life now
at such a young age. Always tied to her Brooks.
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That's where he had his most success. Obviously Olympic team,
and then with the Rangers. As soon as Brooks wasn't there,
he started fighting with everybody, uh, and that became a problem.
Uh five ft eight, so he had a little bit
of H. Well, the attitude that I bring to the
table each and every night here on Shock Sports training
you're all taller than May doesn't matter, and still nuts
(19:56):
about personal life tragic. I mean you can go through
the law dread list of stuff and and the sad
part of the later years of you know, concussions perhaps
leading uh to more brain trauma and then you know,
help mental health issues and the assault that you reference.
He also auctioned his metal off since you have to
(20:18):
auction off the Olympic medal. But perhaps I mean again,
you know, sometimes it's just financial. Sometimes it's ay, I
need to let go of this. I've had it long enough.
Like there's many ways those kind of things come to market,
and and nowadays, you know, the market being white hot.
Like we talked about that Tom Brady card yesterday, I
wouldn't be surprised if a couple of guys were looking
(20:38):
around at each other going, Uh, yeah, I can, I
can get generational wealth off my metal right now. But uh,
for him, as you mentioned, you know, there's there's just
the part of the privacy and and getting away from
it that also was part of what he wanted to
do uh later in his life. So hopefully they find
(20:59):
some of the answers the family that they need, uh
to to find some peace hopefully, you know. Unfortunately he
didn't find that piece while alive. Reminder, always give out
a call, you know, looking on your people. We've been
telling you all during the pandemic, we're not out of it,
and even once we're out of it, still check in
on your people, damn it. But yeah, the changes in
(21:22):
in his makeup and how he treated people, et cetera.
Is noted in pretty much every article you read about it.
Watch a bunch of highlights undersized, but still throwing his
body around. A reminder to all of you as well. Uh,
the size of your heart can't be measured, just like
they said in miracle, you know. And and let's let's
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let's let's uh, you know, finish this conversation on a
highne with Mark Pavloch and talk about the assist on
the goal, because everybody remembers the goal and it's a
ruzione he gets he gets the puck, he's just inside
the blue line, and he skates in and he uses
a defender as a screen and he puts the puck
by Michkin for the goal that wins the beats the Russians,
right most famous goal in in hockey history. And Pavlich
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makes this play happen. Uh. The United States dumps the
puck in, but Russia gets to it and tries to
get it out, and pavl its just his sheer desire
getting to a puck right before the forward comes back
to grab the puck away and and and then there's
no play like he gets all the way to the
boards just a split second before the forward gets it,
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and he gives up his body right into the boards
that he can just deflect the puck back where it
gets to a Eruzioni and Erusione puts the puck in
the net. I mean, that's one of those hustle heart
timing plays where I gotta get this puck, I gotta
keep it in and and that's why I'm gonna give
up my body here and go fly into the boards.
And he makes that play happen. It's just a quick
(22:49):
play where he gets it, he deflects it off his
stick and kind of shoves it out and a Ruzione
gets it and scores. But that is some kind of
play we you know, we don't talk about the setup
of the play a lot because that that play is
just you know, Rusioni goal is is so iconic, and
and and the the shot of him and and then
Michekin falling backwards after the puck is behind him. I mean,
(23:10):
we have these images that are so great. But watch
that play again and watch just he comes out of
nowhere and he gets right in front of the forward
and he's able to grab the puck and flies into
the boards. You can see him turn around like maybe
he's dazed a little bit, like did I get it?
Did I get it? And Ruzione gets it in scores.
It is some kind of play by Pavlich to make
that happen. Without that, I mean, who knows what happens.
I mean, clearly there's there's there's all kinds of jigsaw
(23:32):
puzzle things that go into big plays. But Pavlog making
that play, got the puck to Rusioni, and Russioni puts
it in, and the best sports story of my lifetime
is born. Look at you. You're like a little little
Jason Smith all over again. Oh man, I'll tell you
that was that. That goal is just something the only
goal Ruzione had in the entire tournament. And you know
(23:53):
it was there and it was just some kind of
play man. So I've been watching it again for the
past five minutes, going this is Pavlich just gets right
there and goes flying into the boards and there's a
puck and there's a Rusioni and he puts it in.
See that's what good get you on a team. Reminder
all you tell your kids out there, man Hark played
through the reverberation of the whistle. If you're on the pitch,
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you gotta use your body. Get in there. Don't be afraid.
We got more coming. Up in ninety seconds. Rest in peace.
Mark Pavelich has some kind of career. He had US
Miracle and Ice Olympic champion. Be sure to catch live
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(24:34):
heard the story about Alex Smith released by the Washington
football team. Uh, there's some fits for him and I
would sign him as a backup right now. Now, there
there's a good and rough part of this for Alex
Smith because you know, look, we spent a lot of
time talking about him. He is when you talk about perseverance.
It's his picture in the dictionary, right, seventeen surgeries he
(24:56):
went through to try to get back on the field.
He gets back on the field this year for Washington.
While he didn't really play all that well, his leadership,
his influenced UH, steadied the team and looking they wound
up winning. Uh, the NFC NFC East, even though look
they were terrible, but they wound up winning. And it's
a it's a great part of this story that is
still not done being written for Alex Mus because clearly
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the guy can still play. Is he going to start anymore?
That's not gonna happen, all right. It's number one, he's
not dynamic enough to be able to start. You need
somebody more dynamic a quarterback, and you don't know if
he's going to be able to make it through a
season and not be hurt like he missed a couple
of games with the bone bruise this year, and so clearly,
you know, look, your thirty seven, you've been through a lot,
(25:40):
a lot just to get back. You only have so
much football in you. But if he was someone to
sign somewhere where he's a backup, and if he had
to play a couple of games here and there, oh,
I could see that easily, and I go after him.
You know, that's that's that's all good. I say yes,
sign me up for al Smith right now where he
(26:01):
could be a great influence in the quarterback room and
on the team. And if something happened and your quarterback
got hurt and he couldn't play for a week or two, hey,
Alex Smith can come in and play a couple of games. Right,
There's many worse guys to have out there as smart
as he is. Being able to pick up the offense
right away, you wouldn't miss a beat. He's still mobile
enough to be able to get outside the pocket and
make plays. He'd be He's in a perfect situation right there.
(26:24):
Teams like, you know, a return to San Francisco, we're
backing up Jimmy Garoppolo where Jimmy's the guy. But if
Jimmy gets hurt, then Alex Smith can get in Miami.
If something happens with TWA, you need to pull him
because like Ryan Fitzpatrick wants to start somewhere again this year, uh,
he would be a great influence on to it. If
something happened to is having a bad game. Brian Flores
(26:45):
wanted to put Alex Smith in that could happen New
England if he was gonna be the backup, mentoring whoever
the Patriots got, uh whatever they wound up doing for
the for the uh, for the season. There are some
big time fits where he can be a mentor and
a guy with a chance to play if it came
to it. And that's kind of how you'd have to
sell it to him and say, listen, this is your
(27:05):
best opportunity right now. You're somewhere, You're you're clearly the backup,
clearly the backup. But if something happens and we get
into a long run of inefficiency or an injury, you
can play. And the teams where that's possible right there
are San Francisco, Miami and potentially New England depending on
what they wind up doing. So the team. Look, many
teams can take him as a backup quarterback and say, hey,
(27:26):
you'd be great right here. Man. You can you can
back up our young guy, you can back up Jared
Goff in Detroit. You can do so many places there
would fit. But for him, he'd want the opportunity to play.
And so where's the opportunity where I know him the backup,
but I could get on the field. That's the best
thing for him. And that's why those teams are the
best fit. Yeah. I think when you look at a
team like Jacksonville, whether Trevor Lawrence is ready or not,
(27:48):
you look at where the other rookies come in the
mentor role. Uh, you know, the Ryan Fitzpatrick Miami role.
And we still have to find a place for him. Uh.
Denver has been perhaps a little bit for the next
Beard as he continues his journey. I'd like to see
him in New England because I think that'd be fun
a couple of smart guys going at it, uh, in
(28:09):
terms of setting up that offense. But San Francisco doesn't
work for me. And I'll tell you why. They're just
coming off the season where the biggest complaint is they
didn't have a ready quarterback. So if Jimmy G's constantly hurt,
the last thing I want is another guy that let's
face it, uh, do I have great confidence over a
long on and it's it's not a slide against the man,
(28:32):
it's where his body is. Well it's well, yeah, no,
I get it. But it looks so that the backup
is got to be more longer term solution. Then all right,
he's a good stop gap for a couple of games. Well,
I think that's how you have to look at the
backup though. If you're if your starter is out for
the majority of the season, it's it's a law season, right,
I mean that, No, no matter who you have is
(28:52):
the back of it's gonna be a law season. So
you need to look at, Okay, what's our best way
to succeed If our quarterback, it's certain, misses a game
or two here and there, then Alex Smith can come
in and play for a game or two. But if
if your guys out for you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, you know,
gets hurt week three and doesn't come back until week thirteen,
the season is over by then, you know, that doesn't
matter who you have coming in as backup. Who's gonna
(29:13):
suddenly grab the team by the by the scruff of
the throat and say, yeah, no, I'm good, We're all good.
I'm going in here and I'm we're gonna be eight
and one while while Jimmy Garoppolo is out. I I
don't think that's in the realm of possibility. You have
to look at it as if our guy gets hurt
for a couple of games where we're not lost, and
we could maybe split those games. If he's out for
two weeks, we can go one and one, you know,
(29:34):
if he's out for a week and maybe we can
squeeze out a win. That's kind of how I look
at it as all Right, if you have the disaster
scenario of a guy being out for the city, then
there's nothing you can do about it. But how can
you keep you a float for a couple of weeks. Yeah,
I think it's just more from the as you're planning
your your squad, going to the quarterback room and just saying,
all right, we got two guys. We don't know what
we're gonna get week to week. From a health perspective,
(29:56):
I can't. I can't do it if I'm John Lynch
and the brain trust there in San Francisco, because you know, look,
you're banking on the rest of that squad to get
healthy because they they need Kyrie sagebrush. I know I
referenced it with some regularity, but there's some bad, bad
stuff between that and the Chargers locker room. Those those
(30:16):
are two places you come and wipe it out, because
look at all the guys that missed ample time. They
might have been bad, It might have been okay had
they not had Moster, Debot and Kittle all out, maybe
Jimmy g they would have still been able to weather
the storm. Will never know, but that that is certainly
something in the offing. But to all the uh, to
the young young players, I don't know that you can
(30:38):
get a better guy in the locker room to work
with him, except for maybe the aforementioned neck beard to
the same draft class. By the way you think about
that man that's Fitzpatrick was a member of the Rams
to start things. It's a that was before Ryan Fitzpatrick
was more than you know, he's a smart quarterback. You
(30:59):
know he went to Harvard. You know he's he's a
really really at that point, he was just a jag
who was one of the last cards inserted in the
two thousand five Bowman set. Something fast we could put
him in. Yeah, let's let's get him. All right, great, great,
we got him. We're all well. It was a bigger set,
so they always had more rookies than the other stuff.
(31:20):
So like he had guys that I barely got out
of the first spring training game before they got our
training camp game. So I'm in spring training mode, but
training camp game before they got caught. It's like, yeah,
like I never sniffed at NFL field again. But if
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Studios where the University of Kansas has placed head football
(32:26):
coach Less Miles on administrative leave and there's going to
be a full review conducted to determine the appropriate next
steps on his future. This decision coming after a report
into miles conduct while he was the head coach at
LSU now was made public this week that on Thursday,
a report from LSU showed that in and internal investigation
(32:48):
at the school accused less Miles of inappropriate behavior towards
female students, including allegations that he contacted some via Facebook
and text, he met them off campus, he kissed at
least one of them. The report didn't find he had
sexual relationships with any of the women, and Miles strongly
denies kissing the student, but the punishment at the time
for less Miles was he's not allowed to be around
(33:11):
female students by himself. Now, that should be the big
thing that everybody takes away from this is that, Okay,
so all this stuff going on, and I understand, but
you have a head coach who was in charge of
young men throughout this. He's he's the biggest person on campus,
and you have to put out a rule saying he's
(33:31):
not allowed to be alone with female students. You're so
concerned about his behavior that you have to say you're
not allowed to be around female students by yourself. But
it's okay, you can still coach. And look and I
get it's it's it's it's such a big cliche. He
was in the middle of a huge run at that
time at l s U. He's won a national title.
(33:51):
He's the best head coach they had, so we're gonna
find a way to keep him. But just think about that.
He wasn't allowed to be a loan with a female student,
but it was okay for to still be the head
football coach. I mean, that's like everything that's wrong with sports,
you know, all the way in one thing. And we've
had so many stories about this the past few months,
in past few years that I just I just shake
my head and go, at some point we're gonna get
(34:12):
it right, right, I mean, at some point. I mean
maybe not today, hopefully tomorrow. But clearly this is something
that even just a few years ago, this was able
to go by the boards, eight hours of sexual harassment counseling,
banned from the one on one interactions. As you said,
hundred fifty page investigated report into sexual misconduct at the school,
and there was the then athletic director that recommended at
(34:36):
the time that he'd be fired for cause, and then
outside counsel decided that the complaints did not constitute sexual
harassment under the law and that they'd lose an O M.
Fifteen million dollars. Well, there you go. What's what's the cost.
It's gonna be a hell of a lot more than
fifteen million dollars to to all the universities involved. Because
(34:57):
right now, you know, even though he's been he's not
administrative leave. I got to imagine there's also a hey,
we got anything we need to look at here? And
these are always the call to actions, uh, the calls
to action across the country. Whenever a new case like
this emerges, it's the all right, what's the skeletons? What
we got in our history to have we had any
(35:18):
investigations that we should be apprized of anything that's been untoward. Uh,
that's been talked about in the hallways. Let's go open
it up. Less Miles might probably coached his last college
football game. Yeah, I mean, look, it's not like what's
saved and and it's kind of ironic that what saved
him last time was Hey, I'm in the middle of
a great run here at l s U. I mean
(35:39):
in two years he's three and eighteen, right, there were
owing nine last year. Okay, so it's not like, boy,
well he's a great coach of Kansas. Now this is
where it could come full circle and well, you know what,
you weren't winning games anyway, so now now you're finally
gonna pay for what happened a few years ago. I
could end up that way. We'll keep you posted on
this story with more developments on it as it continues
to come to us, but coming up X Tay, We're
(36:00):
about positivity here on a Friday night, and we have
a great story that everybody is going to love, I
promise you, and it is all about getting past what
first affected us about a year ago. That's coming up
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