June 26, 2020 • 34 mins
Jason and Mike don't think NASCAR could have handled the Bubba Wallace situation any better after the release of the photo of the noose that was hanging in Bubba's garage. FOX NFL Insider Jay Glazer joins the guys to try and make sense of the NFL canceling the Hall of Fame Enshrinement Week while simultaneously saying training camp is still on schedule. And Vince Carter officially retires but the guys tells you what he'll be remembered for alongside his incredible athleticism and longevity.
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Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Greetings and welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with my
biss friend Mike Harmon. First of all, I want to
just say this. I mean, I really feel very strongly
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about this. Out of the gate. The Mets can win
fifty five games, my Carmen. I I can see the
fifty five and five. The Mets suck. I mean, I
know the Dodgers top the revised season win totals with
thirty seven today, that Dodger is a team that had
many experts in Vegas things will win the most games.
But I could see the mess. And no, I'm not
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drinking it all tonight, not at all. No, no, no, no,
no no not. Its sets outed like a nice cheap
domestic beer. Good man. No, it's actually a coke zero sugar,
that's what it is. Well, I don't think anybody believes you.
Unlike other people that I have known throughout my radio
career that actually did drink on the air, I do
not do it. Rather just give the illusion that I'm
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drinking alcohol on the air. Sounds like you're trying to
take a shot at me or No, WHOA you drink
before you drink during the shows allegedly? Well, well, well
we'll wait a minute. This is big news here right now.
WHOA do you can't? You can't just drink during the shows.
I'm not, dude. I literally have a thirty two ouch
cup of coffee and a gallon of water sitting next
to me. No, no, no, But you imply that you're
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drinking alcohol during the show. You can't do that. Theater
of the mine, man, just like you snapping up in
that can open as we get on the air. Buddy,
I feel like you just stopped and like hit a
bottle like under your desk right now, just in case
someone's looking in the window. Let me just hang on. Uh,
the theater of the mind there, buddy, there, no, no, buddy,
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if if I if I was worried about someone walking
past the window, I would have put on pants. I'll
tell you, well, well, no, I don't know. I think
you would stay. I think you would stick with the pants.
You would say, hey, everybody does a party going on? Yeah?
You know, you would say there's a party happening. I
think there is a big party, big party with Jake
Lazer stopping by coming up in a few minutes. As
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a big day in the National Football League. We saw
Malcolm Jenkins earlier today say football is non essential and
and look, Malcolm Jenkins is a huge personality. Uh, one
of the big leaders of the NFL players. And we
found out that National Football League is canceling the Hall
of Fame game. Uh, they're postponing induction ceremonies to next year.
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But they also sent out a letter team saying training
camp is gonna start as normal on July. Yeah, Malcolm
Jenkins is welcome and entitled to his opinion. As I've
talked about, not only for the play. See everybody talks
about the millionaires and billionaires, extrapolate people think bigger, think
about the global part of what these businesses represent and
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why we're worried about who's going to be able to
advertise in the lower bowls of stadiums. There's a much
bigger thing at play. Respect you, Malcolm Jenkins, but on
this one, uh, I'm going to have to vehemently disagree. Well,
he is the one that's putting These are the guys
that are putting their bodies on the line. You and
I aren't. You know that corporations aren't as they advertise.
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But if the corporations don't advertise and all this other
stuff grinds to a halt. So do the paychecks. You
need us to play me? You know, I get where
they want to feel safe, and look, this is what's
going on right now. Least they just want to feel safe.
And the NFL has been pushing ahead with all kinds
of we're gonna go on ASCAR did, which is gonna
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change at some point because it has to, because you
can't sit here and say we're opening up as as
as we normally are. Oh, but the Hall of Fame
game is canceled and the ceremony is gonna be next summer,
but everything else is fine, We're gonna have it. The
players are like, okay, you gotta you we gotta feel
safe here, and Malcolm James is basically saying, listen, football
is not essential. I got your attention. Now, how are
we gonna feel safe because we're seeing these positive coronavirus
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tests and all these other sports. They're getting ready to
come back to play next week, and uh, you know
you want us to be in camp in a month,
so let's figure something out. Uh. So we will have
more with that, and you and I will have more
on that. Will have more on that with Jake Laser
coming up in about twenty minutes. But today was a
day in which I don't want to say this was
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the the big day for to solve everything that's been
going on with NASCAR the past couple of days. But
at least we know now that the next phase of
what happened with Bubba Wallace and the news that was
in his garage that was fashioned in the shape of
a poll rope, at least we saw exactly what we
are dealing with going forward now. As NASCAR published today
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the first photo of the news that was hanging in
his garage past weekend at Talladega. There will be no
hate crime obviously, as we heard the past few days Uh,
it's anyone, because this was a rope pulley that was
put in back at sometime in October. However, when you
look at this rope pulley, it is a newse. I mean,
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there's there's no doubt in anybody's mind. NASCAR put the
picture out there. It's a noose. Maybe if it was
done in the shape. If it was done in the
shape of news for some dumb reason, Well that's what
we got to find out now, and that's why. Okay,
I don't think anybody can doubt for a second this
was a noose. Why was it done like this? You
really can't find who put it up? You really can't
find that. You you you found when it went up,
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you knew was sometime in October. How have you not
found the person to do it yet? Haveing? I found
the one person who could at least stand up and say, oh, hey,
that was my fault, bad idea by me, and it
was just a rope, but no one knew anything. How
have you not found that out yet? I mean that
that's that's the next thing, because I don't think anybody,
whatever side of this story you're on, with all this
was a ridiculous overreaction or you know, you look at
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the the ends that came out of this, which was
pretty positive for NASCAR in general. Uh, it's a noose
and now, okay, why was this like that? Because no
other garage had a news fixed the way it was.
No one else has seen um rope poles fixed the
way it is. Why was it fixed that way? And
I'm really surprised that we haven't found the person that
did it. I mean that that's the the FBI's come
in and figured all the other who did it? All
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that we don't know really, how do you know when
it was done? But you have you really you can't
ask around and find out who did it at this point.
I mean it's been a few days now. I get
right away where part of it is, Hey, what's our response?
Because that's more important because everybody's looking at NASCAR going, hey,
how do how are you responding when a noose is
found in the garage of a black driver and and
NASCAR concentrating their response. Okay, we had the investigation coming
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now still we we don't know who did it. They
couldn't find out who did it. That that that surprised
me at a bit. Mike that they can't find out, Well,
go back and figure out who occupied that garage last
October one videotapes. Okay, maybe they're scrubbed months later. Fine,
you know it goes back to the the original press
release that they put out with inflammatory language of the
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heinous act. And and look, as we've talked about all week, right,
you you assume the worst, but it's one of those.
All right, we have to investigate. And then it's carefully
choosing your words, right he Steve Phelps says, hey, I
should have used the word alleged when put it out
as the heinous act, just saying, hey, we we recognize
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what this could be, but we've got to go figure
out what it is. Right. I think that's where we were,
or at least that's where I've been coming from all
week long. And now the next steps are obviously Okay,
if the fl FBI concluded there's no crime, you still
gotta finish it. Right. You're at the goal line, all right,
it's second and goal from the one. Uh. You gotta
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plunge the thing in and figure out who the hell
did is why they fashioned it that way? Right? They
said they're what eleven ropes eleven pulled down ropes tied
in a knot, but just the one in this formation, uh,
in the photo that we got some nine ten hours ago.
And so at it all up. You know, we know
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the garages are determined by points, coincidence, all of these things.
Because look, it took on a life of its own, right,
and while waiting for more information, you had Bubba Walla
is doubling down. And then he came out with the
statement yesterday to say, hey, thanks NASCAR for having my back.
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But it was after you know, the the FBI have concluded.
So what what that said was, well, I don't a
hundred percent believe what you're selling. So now NASCAR still
gotta go clean that up, and the picture is not
gonna do it now. And and here's the thing, Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Guy Co Studios, I
don't get how. And we we got to this a
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little bit last night. NASCAR's response to this story I
don't think could have gone any different than it did
because here's reports of a noose, and as you can
clearly see, it's a noose, right, there is no doubt
it's a news if you walked into that garage. You
would say, what is that? Oh my god, it's a noose. Right,
there's no doubt in anybody's mind. You can see that.
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So so the person who found it went back to
Bubba Wallace's rest of his team. Look, there's a noose
in the garage. There is no doubt that was a noose. Right,
there's no way and you could say, well, but no,
that was hanging that way. That is a noose. So
this story gets out, and I don't see how NASCAR
could have done anything more that would have made them
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look any better or gotten into it into a different
ending than where we're at right now, where NASCAR has
got to figure things out, because if they try to
hide the story while they're investigating it, the optic is
NASCAR found a noose in a black driver's garage and
they're trying to hide it. And can you imagine the
bad publicity NASCAR would get. Let's say they came out
with a statement and said, hey, we found an object
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that appears to be a noose, but we're were we
were not sure if it is. Yet oh my god,
a news has found You're not even going to admit
it's a noose. And the backlash there because the time
we're in right now, where where when anything race wise
comes up, it's front and center, it's spotlight. It's what's
your reaction to this? Here? And here is something that
I don't know how you react any different. You know
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that that's how you act. It's a noose, it's it's
in a black driver's garage, let's condemn racism. And and and look,
beginning of the week, we said this ended as good
as it could with NASCAR United together saying We're not
going to allow racism into our sport. There they're still,
you know, figuring out how how to how to maneuver
past when when they have finally gotten rid of the
Confederate flag. So I don't see how NASCAR could have
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done anything that would have avoided this spot simply because
the story gets out and and either of those looks
are really really bad for NASCAR. So I that's where
I don't know where they get to a different spot
today where boy, had we done this, had he said
an alleged noose, I mean I don't know that would
do it still would have been a news. I mean,
if you say an alleged noose was found, it still
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would have been out there that it's a noose, and
no one's gonna go back and say, well, we said alleged.
We said, okay, sometimes alleged can save you on things
and and and we say things purposely that way. But
you're using the phrase if you had said, it's a
rope that allegedly is in the shape of a All right,
well you say alleged. News people are okay, it's a
news Well no, that's not where the alleged should have
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been placed in my opinion, right the the allegations, the
allegations here are whether there was an intentional you know,
hate crime committed. I I think saying here's the rope
in the shape that it's in, there's no I mean
that is it is what it is. You look at it,
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you look at the picture, you come to your conclusion.
It was more just the inflammatory. Obviously, this is there
to intimidate and heinous act whatever, and it got you know,
the unification of NASCAR. I get that, but it also
becomes this story that it's it's tough to pull it
back now in terms of you put that out that
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this is a definitive act as the way they stated it,
so now you've got to find the culprit. But how
do you I don't know how you get around it,
because the facts are, here's a noose in the garage
of the only black driver on the NASCAR circuit in
the last week in which they've been fighting a battle
over many fans who are happy and unhappy that they
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have gotten rid of the Confederate flag. I don't know
that you get around the facts. I don't know that.
I don't know how you get around the you know
that the facts. It's like when but you included the
this is a heinous act and everything else, and you
made it an inflammatory thing while you were still hadn't
even begun your investigation. Well you have obviously we will investigate.
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You have to pronounce the found to be this, Yeah,
but you can't. You have to denounce it. You can't
say yeah, if it is, boy, that's awful. But I'm like,
like I said, just imagine the reaction if you don't announce,
if you don't take a strong stand right away. I mean,
look at the times we're in right now, where where
everything that happens this is there. There's not a lot
of time to sit here and say we can we
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can figure it out. We have plenty of time. No,
it's wow, we got to react right away. This is
pretty explosive, you know. I I I just don't see
how the the facts we're gonna get out as is.
And those were the facts, and and they're you know,
like the A Few good men line, those are the
facts the case they are undisputed. These are the facts. Now,
how you got there is what we're trying to figure
out now. But that was where people That's what people
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are gonna pay attention to. What's the headline black NASCAR
driver noose has found in his garage? Oh my goodness.
And that's a heinous that's a heinous thing to see.
It's ay, I mean, we we can't tolerate racism. And
these are all things that we've talked about, which are
good things to talk about, and you know, but the
whole investigation, I don't see how they could have lot
differently just because of that reaction. I see where you're
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going with with your explanation about you know, to to
find be able to to put out certain words and
that aren't trigger words. But this was gonna be the
reaction anybody. I don't know how you could have gotten
out and it would have been anything. But oh my goodness,
look how big this story is is exploded right away? Well,
because when you put out a statement to that end,
that means you you to me that you're already you
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have an inkling of what you're going to find, right uh,
and that you you decided it was a heinous act
on its face without a further investigator, and it may
have been right. That might have been someone back in
October that had an issue. And that's what I'm saying,
go back in the log books, who's in that garage
back in October and figure out let's let's go through
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some chain of events, because they haven't been there all
the time, right, I mean there there, They've been in
other tracks, they've been out of season for months and
everything else. I mean there, there's still next steps to this.
There's a good act right in the end of you know,
NASCAR drivers and everybody together the solidarity, and I hope
that there's peace in there in terms of Bubba Wallace
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with the other drivers and it's not just a show, right,
and that there is you know, togetherness and and believing
that they have the best interest of him, his team,
and pushing forward, right. I hope that's the case, but
NASCAR is still incumbent upon them to dig a little deeper,
as it were. Be sure to catch live editions of
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Well. The NFL today had
a pretty big day in which they announced they're canceling
the Hall of Fame game and the Hall of Fame
induction ceremonies will get moved to one same time. They
send a note out to all of the NFL team
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saying training camp is gonna start on time end of July,
just like always. Whang on second joining us now on
the hotline, Doubles makes sense of that NFL on Fox
Insider extraordinary. Nobody better that our buddy j Glazer. J.
What's happening to my friend? You're asking me to make
sense of that? Hey, the small questions here, Jay, I mean,
(16:13):
come on, yeah, questions. I know I play a doctor
on TV, but I really have no idea what I'm
talking about. Uh. That seems to be a bit of
a mixed message the NFL is sending j with Okay,
we can't play this game and have the ceremonies, but
we're still planning on camp. Is are they thinking anything
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or anything coming down the pipe because we're about a
month away now. I don't know this because I haven't
spoken anybody about this, but you know, perhaps with the
Hall of Fame, there's a lot of elderly Enshrinese UM
and Hall of famers even people that go there, so
maybe again it's um. You know, these these younger players,
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when you put them in camp, it's a little bit
different there. I don't know. Again, when you're dealing with
this virus, things change every day. Um, there's man, there's
no there's no answer that's gonna make everybody happy, right,
no matter what you do, re quarantine again and you
shut down to make sure everybody's safe. People are gonna
be upset about the economy. If you open back up
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to help the economy, people are gonna get upset that
you're not being safe enough about the virus UM. And
you know, unfortunately too, a lot of this has become
political as we know. So there's there's no I guess,
perfect answer that will satisfy everyone seeing I'm watching you
do it. Perfectly on one of your most recent tweets,
is you working out going forward and you're wearing a mask?
(17:42):
You're working out? Yeah, but however did you see the
comments below it? First of all, I'm squatting. I'm missing
my freaking up for l five disc right because I've
rupted at four times, and people like, why aren't you
going down far enough? Well, if you look at the
the captain or depyat you would have seen, well, I
can't get down that far. And then I'm wearing a
mask and somebody's like, you're soft wearing a mask. Okay, dude,
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I'm freaking squatting four oh five, but I'm soft. I'm
wearing a mask and four or five and I'm fifty
and Jewish, so I got everything against me. It's enough
for me j just driving on the four oh five,
not and I'm it's gonna freaking help four oh five.
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I'm feeling really lazy about now. Is fun? Friding is
really fun. My decisions it's worked out all right, though.
Let me look at you're You're helping lots of people
and you're still putting us to shame with four oh
five on the rack. Man, that's even our laquer my
freaking dumb partner at at Brako trying to be like,
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what are you doing? Cap phrases? Man, even you Well,
well you know what you have. You brought a pretty
interesting thing. What would you be doing if you if
you didn't do this, if you weren't an NFL insider,
you weren't you know, unbreakable doing the work you do? Now, well,
what do you think you'd be doing if you had?
And I'll do it, I'd be a spelling b champion.
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We've been working towards those Emmy's earlier. What are you
talking about? Hey, maybe maybe maybe the movies would be
star Jay Glazer and you would get the rock in
and he would help you know, just I'll do you
do a favor? Yeah, that's not gonna have Alright. So
down in Tampa, I mean a lot of big news
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of Tom Brady's still throwing despite the NFL PAS urgency. Uh,
how's Brust feeling about all that? Well, you know it's interesting. Well,
I'm sure Bruce is happy to throw working out together exactly.
I am wondering about coaches like like Bruce and um,
some of the older coaches leaguing guys who've had pre
existing health conditions, and man, how are they going to
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keep him safe? I started thinking about that this week.
How are you gonna keep you safe? I think you could.
You know, it's you know, he's had issues, uh in
the past. We know that. UM, and we've got to
keep guys like that. I say, so, how how's that
gonna happen? I mean, you know, it's it's different between
a guy like him and uh a Sean McVeigh or hey,
Sean Payton has already had it, don't have to worry
about anything, right, So even that, UM, you know, there's
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there's a lot of questions they're gonna have to be
that they're gonna need to come up, and they're gonna
need to do it together. Like if all of a sudden,
twenty guys go down to the team and one guy
gives it to a nineteen dollars and they still got
to play, where are they getting those other twenty players from.
There's got to be some sort of pool of players
that are ready to go out there and in game shape.
So you know, even that they're gonna have to really
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think about. They're gonna have to think some worst case scenarios.
UM and be prepared for that. And I shouldn't say
that worst case because worst case obviously a different level.
We're talking about worst um, but we're you know, they
need to think about anything and everything that possibly could
happen and be prepared for it and not be so
reactive toil, be more proactive just in case, because that's
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kind of what we're seeing today with Malcolm Jenkins doing
the interview saying, hey, football is non essential. We gotta
feel safe, and I think this was him standing up
saying all right, it's time for the plan. How are
you guys going to keep us safe? You want us
to go to camp in the month you have we
have to feel safe. We're seeing the plans in the
NBA and Major League Baseball. We need to see this
from you now. So I think the players are are
stepping up before it gets too late. You know. Even
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that though they tell everybody that July date they're gonna
come back, but there are other dates that were discussed beforehand,
and they were going back and forth and there was
again there's no, there's no this is a different territory.
So some people are like, hey, let's go back July fifteenth,
and and have like almost a that's their business of
their road tea time, O t a time and somebody else.
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Now let's do July tenths and we really have like
someone of a week basically, which is like your offseason
workout program, get him acclimate, um, get get our systems down.
And then they kind of get going back and forth
and that, and then they just said, okay, look to July.
So it's there's a lot of the good thing is
that there's a lot of minds working on it. The
bad thing is again, because there's no answer that's gonna
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satisfy everybody. It's okay, which which these these ideas can
work the best and keep everybody the safest. That look,
our number one priority needs to be safety. That's gonna
be our number one priority. As much as I want
football back, right and we all do without a doubt,
the number one thing here has got to be safety
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because the other, the other hang up in all this
jay seems to be when when you're trying to put
them back in stadiums state to state, you now got
to go back into the governmental bodies for those clearances too,
which is, as we know, moving target on a day
to day basis, as well, absolutely, and again this this
is man. We don't have a precedence for this. Well,
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there's nothing we can look back and four years ago
this happened. It isn't like the lockout. Aren't totally different
than that. And you know, there's a lot going on
right now in this in this world, and and there's
a lot of issues that are way bigger than football.
So this is a different time than we have ever experienced.
My lifetime NFL and Fox insider Jay Glazer with us
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here on the show. And if it's quite possible, I'm
gonna ask Jay more difficult question than than what he
just had to break down. Jay, explain what's going on
with the Jets and Jamal Adams. Well, that's been going
on for a little while, I know. But for the
interesting part was saying, well, these are eight teams, im
when we willing to get traded to that's that's now
it works. But if you're saying I want out, I
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want to get traded, well then that's it. That's what happens.
And when the Giants said okay, we're gonna trade Odell Beckham,
he didn't get to decide where he's gonna go, so
that they made that decision. A lot of times players
try to put it this way up, Well, I'm only
gonna be you know, that's you know, there's you know,
NBA has has their contracts are different, but the NFL
you can't dictate where are you gonna go? And says
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you may be upset with something. You don't want your
bonus getting taken back, you don't want your money getting
taken back. Um, and it's you know, I I know
last year, Um, when all that stuff happened, when it
was uh, you know there was I think there's an
issue between Jamal agent and the team. Uh, maybe put
it out there, but you know, in the end, if
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as much as somebody says out out I want traded, uh,
you don't hold all the cards. Look at the skills
and Levan Bella I want and I'm out I'm outside,
Well then let him sit right. So I kind of
didn't understand that part of Hey, gz a Tree teams
I'm willing to get traded to. So why am I
a favor for somebody who who's saying I'm done with
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you guys, I don't want to be here anymore. And
who I think Jamal Adams is worth it. Yeah, I do,
definitely do. I think he's a difference maker. Um, but
you know it's either you know, unfortunately the NFL for
as a player, your power is either I'm here, I'm not.
And a lot of times even if you have I'm gone,
you still may not even have, you know, the power
you get yourself out. Always thought it was a motivational
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tour tool, that it's all eight winning teams, as do
you know what I want to be a Jaguar? Send
me there now. Hey, but we we had reports yesterday
that that part of the reason is Jamal Adams doesn't
get along with Adam Gaze, and Gaze has kind of
lost the locker room. Is is Adam Gaze? Is he
still on good footing with the Jets? I mean, did
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we hear these stories are every now and then about him? Well,
you hear these stories all the time when you're losing, right,
and gets have been perennial losers. You know, it's just
over and over and over. Um, when you win, everybody
loves you when you're When you win and your quarterbacks
playing well, suddenly you're not so dumb. You coach really well,
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GM really knows how to find players scouting the departments amazing.
And when when you don't, when you don't have a
quarterback in play and you're and you lose, then all
of a sudden, you know, you're dumb. You know what, man,
You can't coach, you don't connect with your players, they
can't find players, you don't know how to scout everybody.
It's just, man, that's what happens when you lose. And Jason,
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being a Jets fan, you well, you just kind of
kicked it. Man, It's just it's just been, you know,
the culture over there, it's been a it's been a
losing culture for a long, long long time. For all
these teams that have had perennial losing cultures. They need
to look from the top. Owners need to go what
am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong here?
What what's my contribution to this losing culture? They can't
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look at like, oh no, no, it's been everybody else's phone.
And they usually do the usually at all, the last
coach to this, the last GM to this, the last
stamfter this. No, Usually it starts at the top and
it goes down from there. So you gotta just like,
you know, teams self stout owners need to self scout, right,
Executives need to self scout. You need to realize why
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is our culture like this? I think Sam Donald is
could be the future. Absolutely. I'm a big story to
Sam Donald believer, big Sam Donald believers. But that culture
over there, man, it's gotta change. He's on Twitter at
Jay Glazer, that is at Jay Glazer also vets and
players dot org. Check out all the great stuff he's
(27:16):
doing there as well. Uh, Jay has always buddy appreciated,
my friend. I'll try to feel positive about the Jets,
even though it's kind of hard, but I appreciate everything
you say, my friend. You guys, good great stuff there
from Jay Glazer. Look, you know, and and here's the
thing is you just hear Jay say. The owner's got
to say, what do you know? What do we what
(27:37):
do we do? Well? Where is the Jets owner? Well,
he's in England and he's been there for four years
as President Trump's ambassador. And and Woody Johnson's brother is
running the team. And it's how can you do it
that way? You know you Woody Johnson used to be
an owner. I would say, okay, you know he spends money,
that's good. But now I'm like, how do you make
decisions like this? How do you hire a head coach
and then three days later hire your GM and expect
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them to work together? How do you how do you
wind up saying, Oh, I'm gonna go outside. I don't
know who to hire for my general manager, So I'm
gonna go ask Charlie Casserley. You know who we should go? Hig?
I mean, how do you run a team that way?
And now you see what's going on right now? Because
you have the owner in England and as bad as
things are with Adam Gaze, is it really gonna happen?
Are they really gonna fire him? It's Christopher Johnson gonna
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get to to fire a head coach or you have
to wait to Woody Johnson comes back at some point.
If he comes back in the fall, if he comes
back later. It's I always what do I say about teams?
If you have a bad owner, you get stuck for
a while, and boy, the Jets have been stuck for
a long time. Well, but that's the larger question. Jason
and and I think eventually we have a big roundtable,
we all sit in suits and we bring Ja as
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one of the guys in since he's connected in this world,
is on the on the whole. How many of these
guys care whether they win or lose, just you know,
with getting ribbed at the annual owners meeting aside and
getting roasted in the newspapers or whatever else. As long
as the bank accounts are increasing, don't you think there's
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a handful of these owners that really don't give a damn.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Today it became official Vince Carter retires from
the NBA after twenty two seasons. We thought this was
happening for remember, they rushed to get him back in
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the game when it looked like it was going to
be the last game before coronavirus shut down the NBA
and Carter gets in hits a big three at the
end of the game as teammates mob and it was
an incredibly positive moment because we thought this was gonna
be it. And Vince Carter makes it official today, twenty
two years in the NBA. He is retiring. Every player
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that plays like this and as this kind of an
impact has a legacy in what you remember him for.
And Vince Carter is gonna go down for these three reasons. Uh,
The incredible athleticism that he showed throughout his career. He
was Air Canada the Slam Dunk Content asked what he
was able to do. The longevity of his career. I mean,
twenty two years in the NBA is flipping amazing to
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be able to play that long when you lose your
burst at some point and you know what, I can't
just hang on and score six points a game. Not
gonna do it anymore. But he was able to play
and contribute for twenty two years. I mean those those
two big things. Athleticism, longevity and the flip side of it.
Choosing to attend graduation North Carolina. On the day of
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Game seven of the Eastern Conference Semis in two thousand
and one, I remember being on the air. This is
one of the first big stories I talked about on
the air in in when I first time around here
at Fox Sports Radio, and it was like wildfire. You know,
Vince Carter who left North Carolina early and become a
superstar in the NBA. He had a great series here
in the Eastern Conference Semis against the Sixers, him and
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Allen iverson back and forth. It was an amazing series,
and he decided he wanted to go because he had
earned his credits to finally graduate from North Carolina. North
Carolina ceremony was on the morning of Game seven of
the Eastern Conference Semis. And this is a story leading
up to it for a few days and why is
Vince Carter doing this? Why is he going? He goes
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to North Carolina, He's there for about twenty minutes and
the big video of him holding up his diploma in
the crowd with all the the other graduates. Then he
flies back to the game, gets there five hours before
tip off, has a bad game, shoot six for nineteen
potentially has the has the game winning shot that misses,
and the Raptors lose in Game seven of the East Semis.
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The Sixers go on to the Eastern Conference Finals. They
would win and go onto the NBA Finals. And Vince Carter,
in many respects and many aspects, has never been forgiven
for that decision. And I know that he has gone
on record in the paste You're saying, I would do
it again. I would do it just like that. I'd
go back and if I made that shot. Nobody would
think anything more and would anythink about it. But the
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thing is, I go back and say, well, you're kind
of looking back at and saying, well, I missed the
shot anyway, And you know it's okay. I went and
I I went to do this graduation. You potentially put
a lot of stuff at risk. I mean, I know
you want to graduate from North Carolina, but the Toronto
Raptors with a team to paying you a lot of money.
You you owed it to your teammates to to not
have this become a big story. You could have gone
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to any graduation. It wasn't your graduation class that was graduating.
You could have just gone because you got your diploma.
And this was the first time when I saw Vince
Carter said, boy, this guy is supposed to be a
star and he's not not being a leader because the
Raptors who were paying him, and you really think they
want him to fly somewhere and then whatever it is,
whatever journey you have to make to come back and
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not just take it easy, be ready to get to
the court and have a big day. He even says
it was a very taxing day for him and he
had a horrible Game seven and the Raptors could have
gone on to win. The Raptors are paying him at
that point, and I really can't believe that nobody stepped
in and said, eight, Vince, this is a bad idea.
All right, I get you want to do this, but man,
this is a really bad idea. Figured one of these
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veteran players like Adell Curry or Charles Oakley could have
come and put their arm around and well especially Oakley,
Uh dude, come on if they want them intimidation factor,
I mean, great example, go back finishing degrees. That's what
I argue all the time. Yeah, but even said after
at Vince Carter had not gone a graduation, Raptors would
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have won. He actually if he doesn't go, but look,
he didn't take it out on him. I mean he
didn't go after like like he would have a James
Dolan situation. But James Dolan one act versus a lifetime.
I mean, there's all sorts of things that go on there.
But yeah, with Vince Carter, it's he's gonna He made
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the Raptors cool, right, not just Jurassic Park. He made
that logo and people still go back and buy a
ton of it. Uh, the fact that he played for
eight teams overall, the longevity, as you mentioned, is there.
But you think of the pogo stick that he was
his there's a couple of years in the league and
just watching his athleticism. Uh. But in a day and age, Look,
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what are we talking about right now? Players deciding whether
they want to go into a bubble and how important
sports are to them. Here's a guy that that chose
the graduation, could have done at any time, could have
waited until the next quarter. Uh, and they end up
throwing away an opportunity to advance. It really shocks me.
It shocks me that a bigger decision wasn't made that.
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Of course, his teammates were gonna say, yeah, we're fine
with it due to the star of the team. What
are we gonna say no? I mean then I look
like I'm anti education. But I mean he could have gone,
he could have gone and done it anytime. But he's
got to do it the morning of game seven, and
who knows what kind of what he did. How bad
were his legs? You know, after you're flying and coming
back and trying to do it as a bad Nineteen
years later, only there were zoom calls,
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Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Greetings and welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with my
biss friend Mike Harmon. First of all, I want to
just say this. I mean, I really feel very strongly
(00:44):
about this. Out of the gate. The Mets can win
fifty five games, my Carmen. I I can see the
fifty five and five. The Mets suck. I mean, I
know the Dodgers top the revised season win totals with
thirty seven today, that Dodger is a team that had
many experts in Vegas things will win the most games.
But I could see the mess. And no, I'm not
(01:09):
drinking it all tonight, not at all. No, no, no, no,
no no not. Its sets outed like a nice cheap
domestic beer. Good man. No, it's actually a coke zero sugar,
that's what it is. Well, I don't think anybody believes you.
Unlike other people that I have known throughout my radio
career that actually did drink on the air, I do
not do it. Rather just give the illusion that I'm
(01:30):
drinking alcohol on the air. Sounds like you're trying to
take a shot at me or No, WHOA you drink
before you drink during the shows allegedly? Well, well, well
we'll wait a minute. This is big news here right now.
WHOA do you can't? You can't just drink during the shows.
I'm not, dude. I literally have a thirty two ouch
cup of coffee and a gallon of water sitting next
to me. No, no, no, But you imply that you're
(01:51):
drinking alcohol during the show. You can't do that. Theater
of the mine, man, just like you snapping up in
that can open as we get on the air. Buddy,
I feel like you just stopped and like hit a
bottle like under your desk right now, just in case
someone's looking in the window. Let me just hang on. Uh,
the theater of the mind there, buddy, there, no, no, buddy,
(02:14):
if if I if I was worried about someone walking
past the window, I would have put on pants. I'll
tell you, well, well, no, I don't know. I think
you would stay. I think you would stick with the pants.
You would say, hey, everybody does a party going on? Yeah?
You know, you would say there's a party happening. I
think there is a big party, big party with Jake
Lazer stopping by coming up in a few minutes. As
(02:34):
a big day in the National Football League. We saw
Malcolm Jenkins earlier today say football is non essential and
and look, Malcolm Jenkins is a huge personality. Uh, one
of the big leaders of the NFL players. And we
found out that National Football League is canceling the Hall
of Fame game. Uh, they're postponing induction ceremonies to next year.
(02:55):
But they also sent out a letter team saying training
camp is gonna start as normal on July. Yeah, Malcolm
Jenkins is welcome and entitled to his opinion. As I've
talked about, not only for the play. See everybody talks
about the millionaires and billionaires, extrapolate people think bigger, think
about the global part of what these businesses represent and
(03:18):
why we're worried about who's going to be able to
advertise in the lower bowls of stadiums. There's a much
bigger thing at play. Respect you, Malcolm Jenkins, but on
this one, uh, I'm going to have to vehemently disagree. Well,
he is the one that's putting These are the guys
that are putting their bodies on the line. You and
I aren't. You know that corporations aren't as they advertise.
(03:40):
But if the corporations don't advertise and all this other
stuff grinds to a halt. So do the paychecks. You
need us to play me? You know, I get where
they want to feel safe, and look, this is what's
going on right now. Least they just want to feel safe.
And the NFL has been pushing ahead with all kinds
of we're gonna go on ASCAR did, which is gonna
(04:01):
change at some point because it has to, because you
can't sit here and say we're opening up as as
as we normally are. Oh, but the Hall of Fame
game is canceled and the ceremony is gonna be next summer,
but everything else is fine, We're gonna have it. The
players are like, okay, you gotta you we gotta feel
safe here, and Malcolm James is basically saying, listen, football
is not essential. I got your attention. Now, how are
we gonna feel safe because we're seeing these positive coronavirus
(04:23):
tests and all these other sports. They're getting ready to
come back to play next week, and uh, you know
you want us to be in camp in a month,
so let's figure something out. Uh. So we will have
more with that, and you and I will have more
on that. Will have more on that with Jake Laser
coming up in about twenty minutes. But today was a
day in which I don't want to say this was
(04:43):
the the big day for to solve everything that's been
going on with NASCAR the past couple of days. But
at least we know now that the next phase of
what happened with Bubba Wallace and the news that was
in his garage that was fashioned in the shape of
a poll rope, at least we saw exactly what we
are dealing with going forward now. As NASCAR published today
(05:07):
the first photo of the news that was hanging in
his garage past weekend at Talladega. There will be no
hate crime obviously, as we heard the past few days Uh,
it's anyone, because this was a rope pulley that was
put in back at sometime in October. However, when you
look at this rope pulley, it is a newse. I mean,
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there's there's no doubt in anybody's mind. NASCAR put the
picture out there. It's a noose. Maybe if it was
done in the shape. If it was done in the
shape of news for some dumb reason, Well that's what
we got to find out now, and that's why. Okay,
I don't think anybody can doubt for a second this
was a noose. Why was it done like this? You
really can't find who put it up? You really can't
find that. You you you found when it went up,
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you knew was sometime in October. How have you not
found the person to do it yet? Haveing? I found
the one person who could at least stand up and say, oh, hey,
that was my fault, bad idea by me, and it
was just a rope, but no one knew anything. How
have you not found that out yet? I mean that
that's that's the next thing, because I don't think anybody,
whatever side of this story you're on, with all this
was a ridiculous overreaction or you know, you look at
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the the ends that came out of this, which was
pretty positive for NASCAR in general. Uh, it's a noose
and now, okay, why was this like that? Because no
other garage had a news fixed the way it was.
No one else has seen um rope poles fixed the
way it is. Why was it fixed that way? And
I'm really surprised that we haven't found the person that
did it. I mean that that's the the FBI's come
in and figured all the other who did it? All
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that we don't know really, how do you know when
it was done? But you have you really you can't
ask around and find out who did it at this point.
I mean it's been a few days now. I get
right away where part of it is, Hey, what's our response?
Because that's more important because everybody's looking at NASCAR going, hey,
how do how are you responding when a noose is
found in the garage of a black driver and and
NASCAR concentrating their response. Okay, we had the investigation coming
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now still we we don't know who did it. They
couldn't find out who did it. That that that surprised
me at a bit. Mike that they can't find out, Well,
go back and figure out who occupied that garage last
October one videotapes. Okay, maybe they're scrubbed months later. Fine,
you know it goes back to the the original press
release that they put out with inflammatory language of the
(07:18):
heinous act. And and look, as we've talked about all week, right,
you you assume the worst, but it's one of those.
All right, we have to investigate. And then it's carefully
choosing your words, right he Steve Phelps says, hey, I
should have used the word alleged when put it out
as the heinous act, just saying, hey, we we recognize
(07:39):
what this could be, but we've got to go figure
out what it is. Right. I think that's where we were,
or at least that's where I've been coming from all
week long. And now the next steps are obviously Okay,
if the fl FBI concluded there's no crime, you still
gotta finish it. Right. You're at the goal line, all right,
it's second and goal from the one. Uh. You gotta
(08:01):
plunge the thing in and figure out who the hell
did is why they fashioned it that way? Right? They
said they're what eleven ropes eleven pulled down ropes tied
in a knot, but just the one in this formation, uh,
in the photo that we got some nine ten hours ago.
And so at it all up. You know, we know
(08:22):
the garages are determined by points, coincidence, all of these things.
Because look, it took on a life of its own, right,
and while waiting for more information, you had Bubba Walla
is doubling down. And then he came out with the
statement yesterday to say, hey, thanks NASCAR for having my back.
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But it was after you know, the the FBI have concluded.
So what what that said was, well, I don't a
hundred percent believe what you're selling. So now NASCAR still
gotta go clean that up, and the picture is not
gonna do it now. And and here's the thing, Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Guy Co Studios, I
don't get how. And we we got to this a
(09:04):
little bit last night. NASCAR's response to this story I
don't think could have gone any different than it did
because here's reports of a noose, and as you can
clearly see, it's a noose, right, there is no doubt
it's a news if you walked into that garage. You
would say, what is that? Oh my god, it's a noose. Right,
there's no doubt in anybody's mind. You can see that.
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So so the person who found it went back to
Bubba Wallace's rest of his team. Look, there's a noose
in the garage. There is no doubt that was a noose. Right,
there's no way and you could say, well, but no,
that was hanging that way. That is a noose. So
this story gets out, and I don't see how NASCAR
could have done anything more that would have made them
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look any better or gotten into it into a different
ending than where we're at right now, where NASCAR has
got to figure things out, because if they try to
hide the story while they're investigating it, the optic is
NASCAR found a noose in a black driver's garage and
they're trying to hide it. And can you imagine the
bad publicity NASCAR would get. Let's say they came out
with a statement and said, hey, we found an object
(10:07):
that appears to be a noose, but we're were we
were not sure if it is. Yet oh my god,
a news has found You're not even going to admit
it's a noose. And the backlash there because the time
we're in right now, where where when anything race wise
comes up, it's front and center, it's spotlight. It's what's
your reaction to this? Here? And here is something that
I don't know how you react any different. You know
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that that's how you act. It's a noose, it's it's
in a black driver's garage, let's condemn racism. And and and look,
beginning of the week, we said this ended as good
as it could with NASCAR United together saying We're not
going to allow racism into our sport. There they're still,
you know, figuring out how how to how to maneuver
past when when they have finally gotten rid of the
Confederate flag. So I don't see how NASCAR could have
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done anything that would have avoided this spot simply because
the story gets out and and either of those looks
are really really bad for NASCAR. So I that's where
I don't know where they get to a different spot
today where boy, had we done this, had he said
an alleged noose, I mean I don't know that would
do it still would have been a news. I mean,
if you say an alleged noose was found, it still
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would have been out there that it's a noose, and
no one's gonna go back and say, well, we said alleged.
We said, okay, sometimes alleged can save you on things
and and and we say things purposely that way. But
you're using the phrase if you had said, it's a
rope that allegedly is in the shape of a All right,
well you say alleged. News people are okay, it's a
news Well no, that's not where the alleged should have
(11:33):
been placed in my opinion, right the the allegations, the
allegations here are whether there was an intentional you know,
hate crime committed. I I think saying here's the rope
in the shape that it's in, there's no I mean
that is it is what it is. You look at it,
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you look at the picture, you come to your conclusion.
It was more just the inflammatory. Obviously, this is there
to intimidate and heinous act whatever, and it got you know,
the unification of NASCAR. I get that, but it also
becomes this story that it's it's tough to pull it
back now in terms of you put that out that
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this is a definitive act as the way they stated it,
so now you've got to find the culprit. But how
do you I don't know how you get around it,
because the facts are, here's a noose in the garage
of the only black driver on the NASCAR circuit in
the last week in which they've been fighting a battle
over many fans who are happy and unhappy that they
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have gotten rid of the Confederate flag. I don't know
that you get around the facts. I don't know that.
I don't know how you get around the you know
that the facts. It's like when but you included the
this is a heinous act and everything else, and you
made it an inflammatory thing while you were still hadn't
even begun your investigation. Well you have obviously we will investigate.
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You have to pronounce the found to be this, Yeah,
but you can't. You have to denounce it. You can't
say yeah, if it is, boy, that's awful. But I'm like,
like I said, just imagine the reaction if you don't announce,
if you don't take a strong stand right away. I mean,
look at the times we're in right now, where where
everything that happens this is there. There's not a lot
of time to sit here and say we can we
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can figure it out. We have plenty of time. No,
it's wow, we got to react right away. This is
pretty explosive, you know. I I I just don't see
how the the facts we're gonna get out as is.
And those were the facts, and and they're you know,
like the A Few good men line, those are the
facts the case they are undisputed. These are the facts. Now,
how you got there is what we're trying to figure
out now. But that was where people That's what people
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are gonna pay attention to. What's the headline black NASCAR
driver noose has found in his garage? Oh my goodness.
And that's a heinous that's a heinous thing to see.
It's ay, I mean, we we can't tolerate racism. And
these are all things that we've talked about, which are
good things to talk about, and you know, but the
whole investigation, I don't see how they could have lot
differently just because of that reaction. I see where you're
(14:03):
going with with your explanation about you know, to to
find be able to to put out certain words and
that aren't trigger words. But this was gonna be the
reaction anybody. I don't know how you could have gotten
out and it would have been anything. But oh my goodness,
look how big this story is is exploded right away? Well,
because when you put out a statement to that end,
that means you you to me that you're already you
(14:25):
have an inkling of what you're going to find, right uh,
and that you you decided it was a heinous act
on its face without a further investigator, and it may
have been right. That might have been someone back in
October that had an issue. And that's what I'm saying,
go back in the log books, who's in that garage
back in October and figure out let's let's go through
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some chain of events, because they haven't been there all
the time, right, I mean there there, They've been in
other tracks, they've been out of season for months and
everything else. I mean there, there's still next steps to this.
There's a good act right in the end of you know,
NASCAR drivers and everybody together the solidarity, and I hope
that there's peace in there in terms of Bubba Wallace
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with the other drivers and it's not just a show, right,
and that there is you know, togetherness and and believing
that they have the best interest of him, his team,
and pushing forward, right. I hope that's the case, but
NASCAR is still incumbent upon them to dig a little deeper,
as it were. Be sure to catch live editions of
(15:31):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Well. The NFL today had
a pretty big day in which they announced they're canceling
the Hall of Fame game and the Hall of Fame
induction ceremonies will get moved to one same time. They
send a note out to all of the NFL team
(15:52):
saying training camp is gonna start on time end of July,
just like always. Whang on second joining us now on
the hotline, Doubles makes sense of that NFL on Fox
Insider extraordinary. Nobody better that our buddy j Glazer. J.
What's happening to my friend? You're asking me to make
sense of that? Hey, the small questions here, Jay, I mean,
(16:13):
come on, yeah, questions. I know I play a doctor
on TV, but I really have no idea what I'm
talking about. Uh. That seems to be a bit of
a mixed message the NFL is sending j with Okay,
we can't play this game and have the ceremonies, but
we're still planning on camp. Is are they thinking anything
(16:36):
or anything coming down the pipe because we're about a
month away now. I don't know this because I haven't
spoken anybody about this, but you know, perhaps with the
Hall of Fame, there's a lot of elderly Enshrinese UM
and Hall of famers even people that go there, so
maybe again it's um. You know, these these younger players,
(16:58):
when you put them in camp, it's a little bit
different there. I don't know. Again, when you're dealing with
this virus, things change every day. Um, there's man, there's
no there's no answer that's gonna make everybody happy, right,
no matter what you do, re quarantine again and you
shut down to make sure everybody's safe. People are gonna
be upset about the economy. If you open back up
(17:19):
to help the economy, people are gonna get upset that
you're not being safe enough about the virus UM. And
you know, unfortunately too, a lot of this has become
political as we know. So there's there's no I guess,
perfect answer that will satisfy everyone seeing I'm watching you
do it. Perfectly on one of your most recent tweets,
is you working out going forward and you're wearing a mask?
(17:42):
You're working out? Yeah, but however did you see the
comments below it? First of all, I'm squatting. I'm missing
my freaking up for l five disc right because I've
rupted at four times, and people like, why aren't you
going down far enough? Well, if you look at the
the captain or depyat you would have seen, well, I
can't get down that far. And then I'm wearing a
mask and somebody's like, you're soft wearing a mask. Okay, dude,
(18:05):
I'm freaking squatting four oh five, but I'm soft. I'm
wearing a mask and four or five and I'm fifty
and Jewish, so I got everything against me. It's enough
for me j just driving on the four oh five,
not and I'm it's gonna freaking help four oh five.
(18:25):
I'm feeling really lazy about now. Is fun? Friding is
really fun. My decisions it's worked out all right, though.
Let me look at you're You're helping lots of people
and you're still putting us to shame with four oh
five on the rack. Man, that's even our laquer my
freaking dumb partner at at Brako trying to be like,
(18:49):
what are you doing? Cap phrases? Man, even you Well,
well you know what you have. You brought a pretty
interesting thing. What would you be doing if you if
you didn't do this, if you weren't an NFL insider,
you weren't you know, unbreakable doing the work you do? Now, well,
what do you think you'd be doing if you had?
And I'll do it, I'd be a spelling b champion.
(19:14):
We've been working towards those Emmy's earlier. What are you
talking about? Hey, maybe maybe maybe the movies would be
star Jay Glazer and you would get the rock in
and he would help you know, just I'll do you
do a favor? Yeah, that's not gonna have Alright. So
down in Tampa, I mean a lot of big news
(19:34):
of Tom Brady's still throwing despite the NFL PAS urgency. Uh,
how's Brust feeling about all that? Well, you know it's interesting. Well,
I'm sure Bruce is happy to throw working out together exactly.
I am wondering about coaches like like Bruce and um,
some of the older coaches leaguing guys who've had pre
existing health conditions, and man, how are they going to
(19:55):
keep him safe? I started thinking about that this week.
How are you gonna keep you safe? I think you could.
You know, it's you know, he's had issues, uh in
the past. We know that. UM, and we've got to
keep guys like that. I say, so, how how's that
gonna happen? I mean, you know, it's it's different between
a guy like him and uh a Sean McVeigh or hey,
Sean Payton has already had it, don't have to worry
about anything, right, So even that, UM, you know, there's
(20:21):
there's a lot of questions they're gonna have to be
that they're gonna need to come up, and they're gonna
need to do it together. Like if all of a sudden,
twenty guys go down to the team and one guy
gives it to a nineteen dollars and they still got
to play, where are they getting those other twenty players from.
There's got to be some sort of pool of players
that are ready to go out there and in game shape.
So you know, even that they're gonna have to really
(20:43):
think about. They're gonna have to think some worst case scenarios.
UM and be prepared for that. And I shouldn't say
that worst case because worst case obviously a different level.
We're talking about worst um, but we're you know, they
need to think about anything and everything that possibly could
happen and be prepared for it and not be so
reactive toil, be more proactive just in case, because that's
(21:07):
kind of what we're seeing today with Malcolm Jenkins doing
the interview saying, hey, football is non essential. We gotta
feel safe, and I think this was him standing up
saying all right, it's time for the plan. How are
you guys going to keep us safe? You want us
to go to camp in the month you have we
have to feel safe. We're seeing the plans in the
NBA and Major League Baseball. We need to see this
from you now. So I think the players are are
stepping up before it gets too late. You know. Even
(21:29):
that though they tell everybody that July date they're gonna
come back, but there are other dates that were discussed beforehand,
and they were going back and forth and there was
again there's no, there's no this is a different territory.
So some people are like, hey, let's go back July fifteenth,
and and have like almost a that's their business of
their road tea time, O t a time and somebody else.
(21:51):
Now let's do July tenths and we really have like
someone of a week basically, which is like your offseason
workout program, get him acclimate, um, get get our systems down.
And then they kind of get going back and forth
and that, and then they just said, okay, look to July.
So it's there's a lot of the good thing is
that there's a lot of minds working on it. The
bad thing is again, because there's no answer that's gonna
(22:14):
satisfy everybody. It's okay, which which these these ideas can
work the best and keep everybody the safest. That look,
our number one priority needs to be safety. That's gonna
be our number one priority. As much as I want
football back, right and we all do without a doubt,
the number one thing here has got to be safety
(22:36):
because the other, the other hang up in all this
jay seems to be when when you're trying to put
them back in stadiums state to state, you now got
to go back into the governmental bodies for those clearances too,
which is, as we know, moving target on a day
to day basis, as well, absolutely, and again this this
is man. We don't have a precedence for this. Well,
(22:56):
there's nothing we can look back and four years ago
this happened. It isn't like the lockout. Aren't totally different
than that. And you know, there's a lot going on
right now in this in this world, and and there's
a lot of issues that are way bigger than football.
So this is a different time than we have ever experienced.
My lifetime NFL and Fox insider Jay Glazer with us
(23:16):
here on the show. And if it's quite possible, I'm
gonna ask Jay more difficult question than than what he
just had to break down. Jay, explain what's going on
with the Jets and Jamal Adams. Well, that's been going
on for a little while, I know. But for the
interesting part was saying, well, these are eight teams, im
when we willing to get traded to that's that's now
it works. But if you're saying I want out, I
(23:37):
want to get traded, well then that's it. That's what happens.
And when the Giants said okay, we're gonna trade Odell Beckham,
he didn't get to decide where he's gonna go, so
that they made that decision. A lot of times players
try to put it this way up, Well, I'm only
gonna be you know, that's you know, there's you know,
NBA has has their contracts are different, but the NFL
you can't dictate where are you gonna go? And says
(24:00):
you may be upset with something. You don't want your
bonus getting taken back, you don't want your money getting
taken back. Um, and it's you know, I I know
last year, Um, when all that stuff happened, when it
was uh, you know there was I think there's an
issue between Jamal agent and the team. Uh, maybe put
it out there, but you know, in the end, if
(24:23):
as much as somebody says out out I want traded, uh,
you don't hold all the cards. Look at the skills
and Levan Bella I want and I'm out I'm outside,
Well then let him sit right. So I kind of
didn't understand that part of Hey, gz a Tree teams
I'm willing to get traded to. So why am I
a favor for somebody who who's saying I'm done with
(24:46):
you guys, I don't want to be here anymore. And
who I think Jamal Adams is worth it. Yeah, I do,
definitely do. I think he's a difference maker. Um, but
you know it's either you know, unfortunately the NFL for
as a player, your power is either I'm here, I'm not.
And a lot of times even if you have I'm gone,
you still may not even have, you know, the power
you get yourself out. Always thought it was a motivational
(25:09):
tour tool, that it's all eight winning teams, as do
you know what I want to be a Jaguar? Send
me there now. Hey, but we we had reports yesterday
that that part of the reason is Jamal Adams doesn't
get along with Adam Gaze, and Gaze has kind of
lost the locker room. Is is Adam Gaze? Is he
still on good footing with the Jets? I mean, did
(25:30):
we hear these stories are every now and then about him? Well,
you hear these stories all the time when you're losing, right,
and gets have been perennial losers. You know, it's just
over and over and over. Um, when you win, everybody
loves you when you're When you win and your quarterbacks
playing well, suddenly you're not so dumb. You coach really well,
(25:50):
GM really knows how to find players scouting the departments amazing.
And when when you don't, when you don't have a
quarterback in play and you're and you lose, then all
of a sudden, you know, you're dumb. You know what, man,
You can't coach, you don't connect with your players, they
can't find players, you don't know how to scout everybody.
It's just, man, that's what happens when you lose. And Jason,
(26:11):
being a Jets fan, you well, you just kind of
kicked it. Man, It's just it's just been, you know,
the culture over there, it's been a it's been a
losing culture for a long, long long time. For all
these teams that have had perennial losing cultures. They need
to look from the top. Owners need to go what
am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong here?
What what's my contribution to this losing culture? They can't
(26:34):
look at like, oh no, no, it's been everybody else's phone.
And they usually do the usually at all, the last
coach to this, the last GM to this, the last
stamfter this. No, Usually it starts at the top and
it goes down from there. So you gotta just like,
you know, teams self stout owners need to self scout, right,
Executives need to self scout. You need to realize why
(26:56):
is our culture like this? I think Sam Donald is
could be the future. Absolutely. I'm a big story to
Sam Donald believer, big Sam Donald believers. But that culture
over there, man, it's gotta change. He's on Twitter at
Jay Glazer, that is at Jay Glazer also vets and
players dot org. Check out all the great stuff he's
(27:16):
doing there as well. Uh, Jay has always buddy appreciated,
my friend. I'll try to feel positive about the Jets,
even though it's kind of hard, but I appreciate everything
you say, my friend. You guys, good great stuff there
from Jay Glazer. Look, you know, and and here's the
thing is you just hear Jay say. The owner's got
to say, what do you know? What do we what
(27:37):
do we do? Well? Where is the Jets owner? Well,
he's in England and he's been there for four years
as President Trump's ambassador. And and Woody Johnson's brother is
running the team. And it's how can you do it
that way? You know you Woody Johnson used to be
an owner. I would say, okay, you know he spends money,
that's good. But now I'm like, how do you make
decisions like this? How do you hire a head coach
and then three days later hire your GM and expect
(27:58):
them to work together? How do you how do you
wind up saying, Oh, I'm gonna go outside. I don't
know who to hire for my general manager, So I'm
gonna go ask Charlie Casserley. You know who we should go? Hig?
I mean, how do you run a team that way?
And now you see what's going on right now? Because
you have the owner in England and as bad as
things are with Adam Gaze, is it really gonna happen?
Are they really gonna fire him? It's Christopher Johnson gonna
(28:20):
get to to fire a head coach or you have
to wait to Woody Johnson comes back at some point.
If he comes back in the fall, if he comes
back later. It's I always what do I say about teams?
If you have a bad owner, you get stuck for
a while, and boy, the Jets have been stuck for
a long time. Well, but that's the larger question. Jason
and and I think eventually we have a big roundtable,
we all sit in suits and we bring Ja as
(28:41):
one of the guys in since he's connected in this world,
is on the on the whole. How many of these
guys care whether they win or lose, just you know,
with getting ribbed at the annual owners meeting aside and
getting roasted in the newspapers or whatever else. As long
as the bank accounts are increasing, don't you think there's
(29:03):
a handful of these owners that really don't give a damn.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Today it became official Vince Carter retires from
the NBA after twenty two seasons. We thought this was
happening for remember, they rushed to get him back in
(29:24):
the game when it looked like it was going to
be the last game before coronavirus shut down the NBA
and Carter gets in hits a big three at the
end of the game as teammates mob and it was
an incredibly positive moment because we thought this was gonna
be it. And Vince Carter makes it official today, twenty
two years in the NBA. He is retiring. Every player
(29:45):
that plays like this and as this kind of an
impact has a legacy in what you remember him for.
And Vince Carter is gonna go down for these three reasons. Uh,
The incredible athleticism that he showed throughout his career. He
was Air Canada the Slam Dunk Content asked what he
was able to do. The longevity of his career. I mean,
twenty two years in the NBA is flipping amazing to
(30:07):
be able to play that long when you lose your
burst at some point and you know what, I can't
just hang on and score six points a game. Not
gonna do it anymore. But he was able to play
and contribute for twenty two years. I mean those those
two big things. Athleticism, longevity and the flip side of it.
Choosing to attend graduation North Carolina. On the day of
(30:28):
Game seven of the Eastern Conference Semis in two thousand
and one, I remember being on the air. This is
one of the first big stories I talked about on
the air in in when I first time around here
at Fox Sports Radio, and it was like wildfire. You know,
Vince Carter who left North Carolina early and become a
superstar in the NBA. He had a great series here
in the Eastern Conference Semis against the Sixers, him and
(30:51):
Allen iverson back and forth. It was an amazing series,
and he decided he wanted to go because he had
earned his credits to finally graduate from North Carolina. North
Carolina ceremony was on the morning of Game seven of
the Eastern Conference Semis. And this is a story leading
up to it for a few days and why is
Vince Carter doing this? Why is he going? He goes
(31:12):
to North Carolina, He's there for about twenty minutes and
the big video of him holding up his diploma in
the crowd with all the the other graduates. Then he
flies back to the game, gets there five hours before
tip off, has a bad game, shoot six for nineteen
potentially has the has the game winning shot that misses,
and the Raptors lose in Game seven of the East Semis.
(31:34):
The Sixers go on to the Eastern Conference Finals. They
would win and go onto the NBA Finals. And Vince Carter,
in many respects and many aspects, has never been forgiven
for that decision. And I know that he has gone
on record in the paste You're saying, I would do
it again. I would do it just like that. I'd
go back and if I made that shot. Nobody would
think anything more and would anythink about it. But the
(31:57):
thing is, I go back and say, well, you're kind
of looking back at and saying, well, I missed the
shot anyway, And you know it's okay. I went and
I I went to do this graduation. You potentially put
a lot of stuff at risk. I mean, I know
you want to graduate from North Carolina, but the Toronto
Raptors with a team to paying you a lot of money.
You you owed it to your teammates to to not
have this become a big story. You could have gone
(32:19):
to any graduation. It wasn't your graduation class that was graduating.
You could have just gone because you got your diploma.
And this was the first time when I saw Vince
Carter said, boy, this guy is supposed to be a
star and he's not not being a leader because the
Raptors who were paying him, and you really think they
want him to fly somewhere and then whatever it is,
whatever journey you have to make to come back and
(32:40):
not just take it easy, be ready to get to
the court and have a big day. He even says
it was a very taxing day for him and he
had a horrible Game seven and the Raptors could have
gone on to win. The Raptors are paying him at
that point, and I really can't believe that nobody stepped
in and said, eight, Vince, this is a bad idea.
All right, I get you want to do this, but man,
this is a really bad idea. Figured one of these
(33:01):
veteran players like Adell Curry or Charles Oakley could have
come and put their arm around and well especially Oakley,
Uh dude, come on if they want them intimidation factor,
I mean, great example, go back finishing degrees. That's what
I argue all the time. Yeah, but even said after
at Vince Carter had not gone a graduation, Raptors would
(33:21):
have won. He actually if he doesn't go, but look,
he didn't take it out on him. I mean he
didn't go after like like he would have a James
Dolan situation. But James Dolan one act versus a lifetime.
I mean, there's all sorts of things that go on there.
But yeah, with Vince Carter, it's he's gonna He made
(33:42):
the Raptors cool, right, not just Jurassic Park. He made
that logo and people still go back and buy a
ton of it. Uh, the fact that he played for
eight teams overall, the longevity, as you mentioned, is there.
But you think of the pogo stick that he was
his there's a couple of years in the league and
just watching his athleticism. Uh. But in a day and age, Look,
(34:06):
what are we talking about right now? Players deciding whether
they want to go into a bubble and how important
sports are to them. Here's a guy that that chose
the graduation, could have done at any time, could have
waited until the next quarter. Uh, and they end up
throwing away an opportunity to advance. It really shocks me.
It shocks me that a bigger decision wasn't made that.
(34:29):
Of course, his teammates were gonna say, yeah, we're fine
with it due to the star of the team. What
are we gonna say no? I mean then I look
like I'm anti education. But I mean he could have gone,
he could have gone and done it anytime. But he's
got to do it the morning of game seven, and
who knows what kind of what he did. How bad
were his legs? You know, after you're flying and coming
back and trying to do it as a bad Nineteen
years later, only there were zoom calls,
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