Joe Burrow Caps Off the Greatest Season in College Football History

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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Happy Monday. Whoa
happy Monday. Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. And today is one of those
days where in the beginning of the day I felt like,
all right, there's too much happening. We need to push

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l s U Clemson in tomorrow night. We have it
should be a Tuesday afternoon evening game, doing like a
NASCAR rain out. What's another two weeks? What's another two weeks?
Why not have another We waited two weeks, so there's
another two weeks. We'll play play in the dead week
between the Super Bowl and between the championship games and
the Super Bowl. Why not that extra Sunday. I mean,

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we already have it built in. I do want this though.
As we watched this L s U Clemson game, which
has been fantastic pillar to post. We're still not out
of the first half. They've got all these different looks, right,
here's the coaches, here's his players, here's every website doing
all these Hey, here's four guys yucking it up. I
just want a camera on Nick Saban. You want to

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talk about a guy he accepted a check to show
up and can do commentary. I've never seen a guy
looks so miserable to be anywhere in his life. Well,
how happy do you expect to be? We've got to
sit next to Lee Corso, who puts the L. S
U Tiger's head on and has gotta sit here here
people yelling scream that L s U was gonna when
Nick Savan just go him blank you blank you blank

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you blank you. It's a home game and you knew
the risks. Yeah. Nick's looking at the rundown of the
show and he's saying, Hey, the C block is empty.
Why is that. Don't worry about it. It's we're gonna
do something. Don't worry. You're not to worry about any Okay, great,
And that's a segment where, of course, so it puts
the puts the Tigers. Oh no, wonder, it wasn't in
my rundown. Now I get it. But look, we had

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a huge weekend of of National Football League. We had
big upsets. We had the Astros changing the game of
baseball today with the penalties on them being caught and
punished for illegally stealing signs in two thousand seventeen, and
on a story that's continuing to develop. It's absolutely insane.
And now I got l s U Clemson. It's like, Okay,
let's let's let's just put this. Let's let's put this game.

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Let's move it. Let's play the first half and let's
move the second half so we can just have all
the stuff to talk about. We can get to all
the NFL, we get to the Astros. But it's gonna
be this. It's gonna be l s U Clemson and
what is shaping up to be a legendary national championship game.
That is, as long as Clemson can slow LSU down
enough to keep scoring. Because as we've seen so far,
in the first half, l s U is up by

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four seventeen, and I feel like this is a game
where l s U still is a really firing on
all cylinders. Burrows thrown for two forty and two touchdowns.
Chase has a hundred forty seven and both of those touchdowns,
and I still get the feeling like they're they're kind
of stop and go, and they started hit some momentum

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in the past few minutes the last couple of times
they've had the ball, But up until now, I feel like, boy,
LSU could really be playing at a higher level. And
here they are still with three touchdowns on Clemson. Well,
this looks a lot like the way Clemson came out
against Ohio State. Slow, kind of punched in the face,
you know, some really bad opening drives. Fuel position was
all in Clemson's favor early, and then they L s

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U finally gets the ball around the forty and they
go down and score right fifty two yard touchdown pass
you've had the beneficiary of the review button. Uh, certainly
not a Jeopardy contestant to be because l s U
the last drive they had that ended in a touchdown,
had a couple of plays where it's like, hey, by review,
you probably should have been moved back a few yards

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because you did a little toe touch on the about
a bound on the end line, and then you had
a receiver made a great play and it stopped his feet,
but put his hand down to get himself right, picked
up another seven eight yards and then Clemson's already employed.
Once we'll count how many they do it tonight. Oh,
I think it's broken to try to stop momentum, but

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it hasn't happened yet. And they just started to roll
down fifty seconds before halftime and L. S U was
driving trying to put one more score on the board.
They have the ball very close to field goal range
still some time left. They only have one time out
left to go right now would be about a fifty
five yard or but as we've seen, fifty five yards

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have worked so far here tonight into the wind or
not now into the air conditioning. That's why they didn't
try one of that. Listen, that's why Clemson is shoot
the fifty two yard field goal in the first half
and then kicked one of the in the first quarter
and then kicked one in the second quarter because they
were going against the air conditioning in the first I
could that, yeah, you might. You might want to get
that good thing. Milianas wearing a raincoat a set when

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you got Malania and early on to uh look that
this is just Dabo Sweeney also auditioning for an NFL
head coaching job where you don't do anything consistently. Two nah, Wait,
later on, how about that fifty two? Yeah? Yeah, sending
him out? What the hell I mean? We watched that
all weekend long. It's like, would you be consistent with

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the way you coach your football team? Kick a field goal?
Ouds that they'll be expecting us to do? Uh so again,
twenty seconds left. L s U now facing a third
and ten, likely gonna have to settle for a field goal. Now,
don't know that they're gonna have time to navigate these
final thirty yards in two plays. But one thing that
stands out to me from this game so far is

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that this is a lot of people, Let's be honest.
As much as we've talked about Joe Burrow, for many people,
this is maybe the second or third time they're getting
to see him this year. Because did you really feel
that you had to watch L s U the first
half of us that you watch L s U Alabama?
He was great. You watch the the semifinal game against
Oklahoma and he was great. Now you're watching him tonight
obviously in the championship game, and like I said, he's

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up to two sixty with two touchdowns already. And one
thing that is a a consistent theme for Burrow that
you're seeing tonight, that you saw in those other games,
is that Burrow will throw it up into one on
one coverage plenty of times, and then number of times
his receivers come down with the football and make the

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plays and and you're able to cut on a diamond
know where the ball is going to be thrown. That's
the real genius behind this L. S U offense. And
I'm not saying this is all Burrows just thrown up,
but sometimes when he's got one on one coverage and
the receiver knows I'm coming back for the ball. Here
another five yards and Burrow throws at five yards under thrown,
they come back with it's a back shoulder fade, something else.
But this these one on one plays that L. S

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U Is making, catching the ball in the open field,
making moves to get down the field one on one
with a defensive back, one on them with a linebacker.
That's really what this whole offense has done for to
the season. They have phenomenal playmakers. When you have a
quarterback that knows, okay, where to get the ball to
a guy so he can play great in space one
on one, and that's a huge thing. You're not You're

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not saying Joe Burrows, I say, boy, look at that
deep out he threw into a tight window out of bounds.
This is I know where to go with the football
so I can get this to my playmaker. There's NFL
teams right now watching both these quarterbacks going, I can't
wait to get these guys the next level. I would
kick whoever we have to the curb to go get
this guy. Burrow can do this and is able to
know where to throw the football with one on one
coverage that way, Oh man, let me get my hands

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on this guy. Yeah. I mean both quarterbacks making big
plays with their legs. Burrow with a touchdown run and
now a nifty run here as we get inside the
final twenty seconds of the first half, directing traffic, Lawrence
had a rushing touchdown UH and a couple of scrambles.
Early pressure UH caused a couple of those, but making
plays with his legs. But for Joe Burrow, as you say,

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going into those one on one situations. What do you
hear all if you watched l s u all year
long and you watched how he throws the ball, it's accuracy.
The receiver knows where it's gonna be. That that combination
of arm strength which we've seen him go up over
the top, and the ability to put it put it
where he needs to. Men, let you gotta make a

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play when you know your wide receiver is usually at
the advantage. Right, You've got the recruits, you've got the
big time playmakers. It's just like a surgeon's precision, I'll
tell you. And I was wrong. I said that's not
gonna be enough time to get down the field. And
as you said, on a third and ten play, Joe
Burrow doesn't only scramble for the first down. He scrambles

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all the way down to the five yard line, gets
out of bounds with fourteen seconds left to go. And
on the next play, he knew he was gonna get drilled.
And he's coming off the field right now, walking a
little gingerly. He stays in the pocket, throws a touchdown
past six yards to Moss. Now seventeen extra point will
make seventeen and I like, like I said, I mean it,

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Clemson is gonna go to halftime going. I really don't
feel like we've been playing that bad and we're down ten,
we're down eleven. Now. I mean burrowed just those last
two plays, his grace under pressure, the ability to produce
big plays when it never seems like he's rattled. Same
thing with Trevor Lawrence. Look, I mean Lawrence is the
same guy. And you know that's why. I mean, how
many teams would kick their quarterback to the curb for

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one of these two? Are there as many as definitely teams?
But what are we talking? Mahomes, Watson, Um Russell, Will Russell, Wilson, Tannehill.
Nicely done, Lamar Jackson right, and kick Lamar Jackson the curb? Uh,

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they wouldn't kick Lamar Jackson the curb, Buffalo. Maybe Josh
Allen's played well, you're accounted for thirty touchdowns this year.
I think you'd have more of the accuracy would be
for both these guys. Would I would still kick Josh
Allen to the curR? And you know I love Josh Allen.
Deshaun Watson probably not. And then you get to Patrick Mahomes,

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so that's three quarterbacks in the a f C. In
the NFC, everybody in the Eastwood Carson Wentz gone, Giants gone, Redskins, gone, Cowboys,
Detroit Wood. Of course the Vikings would uh Packers, Packers,
that's that's that's tight. But look, they're playing in the
NFC Championship game, right are Aaron Rodgers would be four.

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And then you get to the NFC South and Drew
Brees is the guy that stands out. But there Breeze
is forty years old, eight and eight playoff quarterback. He's done.
We need somebody else. Joe Burrow went and took his
soul when they met. They would like that picture all day.
They would like to go from Joe from Drew Breese Brow.
And then in the NFC West, probably Russell Wilson because

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the forty nine is probably do it for Garoppolo. You're
talking about definitely over twenty five teams that would say
you're gone, will take Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow. We
can have a little bit of an argument. Maybe Kingsbury
loves himselves with Kyler Murray. And then you've got Garoppolo,
who didn't have to be a statistical beast this week
because it was just complete and utter domination, uh in

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that Saturday game. But yeah, I mean that is a
very short list of quarterbacks who you would say, these
guys aren't coming in and wouldn't take your jobs in
short order. Made fantastic first half and it played a
little bit not with the same score, but from the
same feel as that Houston k C game. Right, Houston's

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in control, They're rolling, and then all of a sudden,
it's fifty one seven here. Even though it wasn't a
big lead, it was like, wow, that first quarter pretty
much down add fuel position and just feel for Trevor
Lawrence and the Clemson Tigers. And now they find themselves behind.
That's officially at halftime. The final Tigers got the football
kneeled on it. So it is twenty eight to seventeen

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now a dominant lead for l s U. And again
I feel like they still have their best football ahead
of them. This big guys. Safe to say Joe Burrow
is the greatest Bengal of all time already. Oh ye
oh yeah, well I got Chris collins Worth was pretty good.
Well yeah collins Worth wins, Yeah, yeah, I gotta go

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with collins Worth Nicky Woods was good. Well, but you
know what else collins Worth did? What's that a broadcasting career? Broadcasting? Uh,
you know you're for bringing that, just for bringing that.
So that's where we stand right now, halftime seventeen. It's
been a it was a big show early by Clemson.

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L s You really started to hit another gear in
the second quarter, scoring twenty one points. Seventeen is the
leading boy. Clemson's really got their work cut out for him.
Now down to eleven with l s U getting to
that extra gear. So we'll have more on this game
coming up next, as well as the Dodgers could be

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on the verge of celebrating two World Series championships after
what happened with the Astros today and the penalties for
illegally stealing signs. This story that was an absolute bombshell
on Major League Baseball that this NFL. We got everything
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LSU leads Clemson tight to seventeen. LSU scoring twenty one
points in the second quarter, hitting that next gear that
they struggled to find in the first quarter when Clemson
hopped out to a seventeen seven lead. And is someone
who picked Clemson, I was feeling pretty good at that point.
Now I'm not feeling so good right now, But then again,
I felt that way yesterday when I told you the

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Chiefs were going to the super Bowl, and then after
the first quarter, I was like, oh, wow, they didn't
even practice. Wow, okay, But then it turned out okay.
I thought they'd win a closed game and against the spread.
When you're up thirty three and a half, you feel
pretty good. You're feeling and left in the second and
you're just done easy about it. You're watching it, And

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then I mean, how's Bill O'Brien still have a job today?
That's a whole other question that needs to be outside
Bill O'Brien's right now. He's a guy in his car
driving today, and here's a breaking news on the radio
that says, and Houston has fired There two men in
charge after yet I knew it, I know it, I
know it. The Astros have let go Jeff Luno and

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oh it's me. Oh even like you when you had
the World Series, you thinking like Leota and Goodfellas. Oh
then in fire me. Oh my god, hey Bill o'b
the first half. I'm not gonna lie. Bill O'Brien should
should send a nice thank you note to the Astros

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for getting him off the hot seat. You had a
little bit of this morning where I'm sure you know
morning radio in Houston areas around. Oh my god, this
blow lead twenty four nothing, one of the biggest of
all time. And then the Astros story breaks and you're like,
well who cares about that? Oh my god, the list

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of people this is gonna be like a class action lawsuit,
you know, the Astros penalized the or the Astros are
penalized by Major League Baseball. Rob Manford completes his investigation
into the allegations the Astros were using electronic means to
steal signs in two thousand seventeen when they won the
World Series. And this is a developing story because other
people are involved that are no longer with the Astros.

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You have Met Sox manager Alex Cora. You have Carlos Beltran.
The Mets can't even give the Astros a day. Now.
This is a huge mess, and the Mets go, no,
we want part of it. No, let's just leave it
to the actors. Don't know, we want to own this
part of it. Beltrend the only two people mentioned by
name in the whole sign stealing where Alex Cora and

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Carlos Beltran gotta have mentioned by name in this. This
was gonna be a eight men out kind of situation
where you'd have two guys going, I didn't see any
signs I hit three thirty eight on my own, or
I hit one oh five. You think I was stealing sides?
Nobody cares about your batty. But this story is just insane.

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I mean it's like a class action lawsuit because you
have the Dodgers, who you can say, boy, now, depending
on what Alex Cora did, did he bring this to
the Red Sox when when he came there to manage
they're looking at maybe two parades. Frostberg's got a whole
city block blocked off. I had to bring him some
lawn chairs. The Yankees are mad. The Yankees are already
intimating that they they lost a chance of the World

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Series because of this. I want I want the Royals
in two thousand fifteen to be in just because. But
think about all the revenue lost, think about the reputations lost,
right all these Dodger players, and think about Clayton Kershaw.
I mean, how many times have you seen the mock
up of Choker? All right? I mean there was a
lot of stuff that I fell out of it. It's
not like he was lights out in the playoffs before.

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And I'm not saying that. Hey, everybody everybody had, but
you everybody. The Cardinals had the signs. Everybody had. The
Cardinals had cheaters that were in house from their time
with when they show all their their scouting information. There
was a guy with the Cardinals that worked for the Astros,
so it all plays together. They had the signs every game.

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When it comes down to this, right, and we have
the firings after the year long suspensions are announced, it
still puts a pretty low price on a championship. Five
million bucks, a couple of draft picks. Screw the draft picks. Also,
they're fired. Your GM. Your your GM got suspended, So
did your manager and then they were fired right at

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the Well, here's the thing, and I get it because
should they have taken the title away from the Astros. Yes,
they should have because that would show baseball is not
messing around. And this is something that can't continue because
this is fabric of the game. This is not just
dealing signs. This is we're going through an elaborate electronics
scheme to relay signs into the dugout. And of all

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the different angles on this story that you know one
I want to get to you tonight because listen, everything
we have going on the National Championship Game is gonna
take over his well in the NFL. Just kill it
is that I I understand why. I disagree, but I
get why because if Rob Manfred just decides to vacate
the World Series, right, he vacates World Series, it's the

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right thing to do because the clearly by this punishment,
you know, they gained some kind of incredible advantage, like
when you know what kind of pitch is coming, that's
a big advantage. But he's saying, I'm not making my legacy,
Rob Man and commissioner who stripped the ashes of the
World Series. I'm not making such a negative headline. What
people remember me for as commissioner Major League Baseball not

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doing it because he saw what happened with Bud Sealing.
What can you say about Bud Sealing? Oh yeah, he
was commission when there was no World Series. I remember,
I remember when you But now you're the commissioner. Doesn't matter,
is different, doesn't matter. He he does not want to
be the because he knows that's the the hero that's
I don't think he would be. He's Signy Houston. He

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I would be. I'm the guy that realized I'm the
guy that had to punish my own league because we
couldn't do the right thing. I I I didn't have
enough oversight on these teams, even though there were reports
of the astro stealing signs and we knew I did
not have enough oversight. This is a come up. This
is a black guy for baseball, and I'm not going

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to be the commissioner that this becomes synonymous with. I
want a positive I want a positive reputation. I but
that's why he's I'm going to do this because I'm
I'm not going to be that commissioner. Look, I remember
when Bud Sealing, when they canceled the World Series, and
I was working for ESPN's production assistant and they had
a big press conference officially to make the they couldn't

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play anymore and it was canceled and Bud sealing the
first part of the press Scotts, Okay, everybody saw the
press release, so let's talk about what's next. He wasn't
gonna be the commissioner to say, well, as you can see,
the World Series has been canceled. He wasn't going to
be the cons They could play that SoundBite forever and ever,
and even in he knew if I'm I don't want

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to be the guy to even say the World Series
has been canceled. I don't want to do that, and
I'm gonna hopefully try to avoid that. You know that
he didn't wouldn't say it. You see, here's the announcement. Now,
now let's talk about it. And he talked about what
was next and labor and nobody cared at that point
because it was just all. The World Series was over.
It was a great regular season. I was ready for that.
White Sox Exposed would have been that would have been

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a lowly high rated World Series. But that's the same
thing for Rob Manfred. He knows he can't go away
from this. So what do I do? I punish the
people at the very highest point of this, which is
the general manager and the manager and the GM. Apparently
there was no evidence he found that Luno knew. A
j Hinch said he kind of knew and tried to

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get them to stop, which is where Dick kJ hinches.
You know, yeah, he's hit. He broke two monitors. No,
you're the guy that controls the club eyes. You controlled
every aspect of it. Luno, the same thing. Analytics guys. Yeah,
but you know that's a variable we just didn't recognize.
Come on, but that But that's the thing, is that

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if you try to get it all done at the
top in one fell swoop. This is why he didn't
announce penalties for Bell transits. While we're waiting on Alex Cora,
I'm penalizing the guys at the top, and that's it,
and and then we're done. I have a big I
have a big scandal here, and not realizing that there's
still gonna be questions. And all he did was empower

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people to say, hey, let's let Pete Rose and all
the other cheaters in the Hall of Fame. Now it
took one of half hour. After we find all the
players who were involved in this aren't getting any kind
of repercussions against them and not responsible for any of it.
In a half hour, it was let's let all these
cheaters in the Hall of Fame. I mean, Rob manfred In,
trying to preserve his own legacy, has really just thrown

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out a punishment that doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah,
I mean, no, no suspensions to the players. I was
hoping they'd have all have to be pushed that. Really,
the international money is where I thought they'd get hammered. Right,
forget about draft picks. It cares about that. It's being
able to use a giant pool of cash to go
sign players from overseas that aren't part and privy to
the draft. But in the end, you you made it

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pretty easy to say, all right, here's the blueprint. We'll
slap you on the wrist. A couple of your exacts
might get fired, but is it worth it. Yeah, I
would say it was worth it. If you're the Houston Astros.
Screw that. Well, now they get to keep your World series.
Now you can to keep your world serious all those
guys are gonna make seventy five bucks of pop and
autograph shows for I like how you're worried about You're

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worried about the guys that need to make money at
autograph shows. I like, he's looking up. I'm gonna keep
getting paid Twitter at how about a Frescup Mike gets
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Mike Harmen. We got the second half coming up between
l s U and Clemson. Ken Clemson come from behind
and turned me into a profit. I mean, I don't

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know at this point, but again they we got more
on that. We got more in the NFL. But first,
Ralph Irvan has what's trending? All right? Well, thank you
very much, gentlemen, And yes, we are in the nineteenth
minute now of halftime of what was a two hour
first half of the National Championship game, and that has
of course number one l s U leading Number three
Clemson seventeen at the intermission. Joe Burrow, well, he's doing

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a lot better now than he was earlier. On sixty
two hundred and seventy nine yards three touchdowns on the game.
He's also the team's leading rusher, with fifty five yards
on the ground. NBA Action it's going on as well.
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back Match. And then there's that little story from Major
League Baseball. The Astros have fired their manager A. J.
Hins their g M Jeff Luno after they were suspended
for a year by Major League Baseball in the sign
stealing scandal. The club also find five million dollars and
stripped of first and second round draft picks. Still waiting
to see what happens with Alex Cora after his role

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in every state. Now let's roll it back and take
a look at the NFL weekend as we are joined
by Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Thank you are right
at t J. The sign steal delivered a verdict to
Houston of suspension. D J. Steele stolen and delivered. Uh note,

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going to halftime, remember the touchdown pass Burrow to thatty
his moss and he took the big shot as you
described it. Ah, he was gasping for air as he
went towards the locker rooms for something to watch as
we come out for the second half. Yeah, he's warming up.
He looked like he was saying, I'm alright, I'm alright,
I'm all right. And then one of the when you
get away from the cameras, oh my god, I got drilled.
Oh my god, oh my goodness. Uh so again this

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second half coming up here, but really quick, just one
more thing. You heard Ralph Irvan say the punishment that
could be coming for Alex Cora, manager of the Red Sox,
that has not been agreed to or decided upon yet
because they're still looking back at the allegations Fromen. There's
the Apple Watch story when they were caught stealing signs

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of an Apple Watch. So it's still coming. I can't
see there being any thing that doesn't result in Cora
losing his job as well as manager of the Red Sox,
because look, if the Astros fired their GM and their
managing the GM says, I don't know and j Hint
said I tried to stop it after going on television
and saying that's the most ridiculous thing in the world.

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Uh yeah, Cora kind of has to lose his job
as well. So right now, if if I'm the Red Sox,
that's that's it. Frostberg, he's gonna be the fall guy
in a hand. You might be taking that a little
bit far your own street justice, but this may be
the lifetime band. He might be the guy that that
wears it if they can prove anything happened in Boston.

(27:28):
It is a situation with no winners because it's just okay,
let's clear everything out and then start over because I
liked the movie. Look, you saw the statement from the
astros today. Why did they fire Luno and Hinch Because
they said, we need to start We need to put
this behind yeah again, and that's absolutely right. We have
to because this is gonna hang over the team. Now.

(27:50):
At least you can do it and start over. Now
the bull's eye is gonna be on you because now
teams are gonna want to see, were you really this good?
Are you really m v P type played? You really
have eight guys that are that good? Or when you
knew what kind of pitch was coming, you were a
lot better. So that's a really big deal. I can't
seek if I'm the Red Sox, I'm looking at my

(28:10):
next manager now. I don't know that you can wait
if it comes out already that Cora was the ring leader.
I think this is major League Baseball saying, okay, Red Sox,
do the right thing now, or I'll come in and
I'll and and and we'll have some kind of suspension
or something else you're gonna have to deal with. I
can't see him continue to have this job simply because
he was already named as the ring leader and the

(28:33):
guy who was behind everything, and he was the he
was the mastermind behind belt But him and Beltra, I
can't believe the Mets still Mets punishment. Well, they're actually
doubling his contracts. That's his that's his thing. Beltran's deal
now ten years to manage the Mets. It's it's just
insane that they both still have jobs. It's unbelievable. They

(28:57):
came to a consensus and said someone's gotta pay. He's
the guy that was named most frequently or had the
beginnings of it. Yeah, but I mean, just as it
goes down, right, because you could have named any number
of the players all knew, We're not dumb. It wasn't
one guy, not the rogue bench coach, it wasn't the

(29:20):
you know, assistant to the traveling secretary. We're talking about.
Every player had to know how this was going to
be executed. And so what happens. You pick one guy
and he's the guy that has to wear it, and
since he's no longer with the team, no longer under
their payroll, very easy if you say no, it's him,

(29:40):
It is all him. Justin Verlander and all these guys
pretty quiet on Twitter tonight. By the way, Uh so
we'll have more on this Twitter at how about a
Fresca Mike at swollen dumb. Let me just say it
real quick. I can never go to Green Bay again, apparent.
The take we had on Friday night that was just
all over social media over the weekend, it went via
Earl was my take on the packers asking for seven

(30:05):
people to show up at lambeau Field on Sunday to
shovel snow for twelve dollars an hour, starting at six
o'clock in the morning. They needed people to come because
they were expecting heavy snow on Saturday night and needed
the stands on the field to be clear for the
game against the Seahawks. And I'm writing, and I write,
and I we talked about it on the show, and
I say on Twitter, you know, you can't pay these

(30:26):
people fifty bucks an hour. I mean, these people getting
that are coming to shovel snow in zero degree weather
for twelve dollars an hour. You were looking out for
the people, and you were a man of the people.
And and the number of people that I've gotten. And
the thing is is that in the beginning, I get
all this hate from all these Green Bay reporters, right,
all these people that report and green Bay going, you

(30:47):
don't get the relationship we have with it. Take yeah,
blah blah blah blah. You don't get we do it
for free, blah blah blah blah. I'm like, all right,
And then I'm getting it from the fens. I'm like,
all right, that's fine too. But then I look at
what everybody likes to say is ratio, right, which is
always the most ridiculous, meat headed thing because when you
have you know, the ratio is a turn for the
number of when you say something the number of people

(31:08):
that tweet at you to disagree with what you were
saying right, and you say, hey, thanks for playing right. Well,
that's true. But number one, there's two different things for
ratio There's if you have there's a national story and
and that affects every single person in the country, and
you have a take on it and it's that bad
that you get ratioed, then I get it. But anytime
you're talking about a specific team and you say something critical,

(31:32):
the majority of the country is not going to decide.
Oh yeah, I gotta make sure I get on there
and and and support you. It's just gonna be the
hate you get from that one team, like the Braves
fan base last year when I said, listen, when Ronald
Lacuna hits a home running show Boats, he's gonna get
thrown at. You cannot like it, but that's how it goes,
and all Atlanta fans crazy. Yeah they do, well, yeah, yeah,
they kind of. They got a couple and I learned

(31:56):
my lesson last year because a couple of people with
check marks and I went BacT forth on Twitter a
little bit. They wound up getting so many more retweets
before anything else they've probably ever done professionally because they
decided they wanted to jump on and troll me and
and and be a part of the conversation. So now
with this specifically this weekend, I laid off it. Like,
and there's people that are trying to goad me and

(32:18):
give them freebes last year, right, Like, we get enough
stuff stolen from us that we get no credit for
nor payment for already. Yeah, why why give these dopes
a bunch of run to And But here's the funny
part is that of the ratio, it's twenty two one
people that like my tweet and retweeted it to people

(32:39):
who are really mad. And there's a lot of people
who are mad. There's a lot of people who are
mad on it. Yeah, all five people, all five listeners,
are very very upset, you know what, love us, hate us? Uh,
just we just keep I just figuring there. We're gonna
be a lot of people that were gonna hate me,
you know what, for being anti paying them anything. Let
me just say that, let me just prove my it

(33:00):
real quick with them. Does for everybody who says, oh
you don't get it, we would shovel for free. This
is that you don't get it. You're a California you
got all the blah blah blah. Let me just say this. Okay,
you love love, love love the packers, right, Okay, they've
never so much has done is send you a Christmas card.
But I love love love the packers. Okay, I get it.
If you love the packers so much and you do
it for free. Going to work, if you have a

(33:20):
job that you really love, going to work and tell
your boss I want to work three hours earlier and
I want to work for way less money. Are you
gonna do it? But you love love love love you, Well,
not not the same thing, right, If you love love
love what you do, oh, I don't care. I do
it for free. Well, this is not something that is
making lives of millions of people better. This is not

(33:42):
I'm volunteering to to give out shots or to give
out medication. This is your breaking your back to shovel snow.
They could pay you more money because they're the Green
Bay Packers. To shovel snow, you wouldn't go into your
boss's office and say, yeah, I want to work for
six o'clock in the morning outside, really physical and I
want to get paid twelve dollars an hour. Nobody would
do that, So there you go. So I went Twitter

(34:04):
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Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen. I
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don't you marry him? Coming up next, the third quarter
is underway. What did Joe Burrow say at halftime as
I lip read him? That could be pretty concerning for

(34:26):
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(34:47):
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things getting a little bit more interesting in the National
Championship Game, Clemson with a big stop to start the
second half, try to Lawrence takes them down the field
a short field touchdown to make a three. They convert

(35:07):
the two point conversion and now l s US lead
is trimmed to three twenty eight at ten on the
touchdown run, and Lawrence passed to Rogers the two point conversion.
So all the big numbers and big production put on
the board by L. S U. They had the eleven
point lead. Clemson answers early in the third to make

(35:30):
it a three point game. And maybe the biggest thing
as we watch L. S U gets to take the
field again is that, you know, we saw on Burrow's
last touchdown pass that he gets absolutely drilled, stands in there,
completes the ball for a touchdown, comes off the field
and looks like he's he's like moving his left arm
a little bit, and he's got his hands out talking

(35:50):
to his teammates, and it looks like at first clance
he said I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. And but
then they played it again a couple of minutes ago,
and I'm watching and trying to lip read, because you know,
I like to do the NFL lip reading. Get Twitter you.
We're gonna make that a part of the show here
in Tiger will jump down and feed on you. I
said to myself, Jeffrey Jeffries phincter uh and it looks

(36:12):
like he's saying, don't touch me, don't touch me, Like
guys are coming up to give him high fives, and
it looks like he's saying, don't touch me, don't touch me.
And it looked like it was his left I mean,
his left arm just gets crushed against the side of
his body as he comes down. We watched him on
the exercise bike before the third quarter start, so you
wonder how banged up he is now coming off of

(36:32):
that touchdown pass and what that touchdown pass may have cost.
L s U. Yeah, and their first possession a quick
three and out, an incomplete pass, a quick pass to
Moss for six yards, and then he gets sacked, so
he takes another hit, and then they're they're forced to
punt short field six plays fifty yards. We get our
touchdown and two points. But for Joe Burrow, certainly we're
watching that right, he's taking a bunch of hits. So

(36:54):
it changes the offense because he had a bunch of
design runs in the first half. Are those throwing plays
now thrown out of the playbook, So it changes the
complexion of what we're gonna see here going forward. So
again L s U with the lead over Clemson, and
now l s U's got the football again, and we'll
be able to tell in the first couple of possessions
what this really is for Joe Burrow. Is he is

(37:15):
he struggling? Is he limited physically? Did he just needs
some time sweep the leg? And he he really got hit.
You see the whole left side of his body just
completely comes down and and is is like almost cutting
half and he goes down and walks off the field.
And I just watched him on a first down play
really have no mobility in the pocket and get taken

(37:37):
down for a sack when earlier in the game this
would be some escapability, but Burrow couldn't get out. It
didn't look like he was really running at full strength.
And he kind of goes down on one. Yeah, he uh,
instead of really fighting to get out of that tackle.
He kind of did take a knee to go down there.
I mean, that's that's a if Burrow is is a
little gunshine a little bit? Is he struggling? Me? This

(37:59):
is this game is gonna turn fast. You're starting to
see the defense as they show blitz from two positions
from the linebackers backed off one but certainly it's gonna
be an interesting second half in the chess match between
Oseron and Dabo Sweeney. So again L s U with
the lead over Clemson. I picked Clemson because I thought

(38:22):
that Clemson, having been here L s U was gonna
play rocky early on and Clemson was going to get
out to a lead, and and it was gonna be
difficult for LUSU to match the talent level of Clemson,
because Clemson are they as talented as ls you know,
but they're way more talented than Oklahoma is. And I
thought they would have a lot of trouble, and they did,
but it was a quarter long. I mean, it really

(38:43):
had happened. It was it was a quarter. They struggled
so much with Clemson for the first fifteen minutes, and
then it was okay, boy, they're really struggling. And then
it was oh, wait a minute, here's three easy touchdowns
up on the board, and it was oh boy, okay,
L s U really has got it going right now. Yeah,
the L s U now three of nine on third
down con virgins, and Burrow just got away with one
that could have been dancing to the other end zone

(39:05):
as he's a little uhle early with the throw, jumped
the route and safety coming over to the top does
a great job, but just can't corral it. So another
punt on the way. We'll see what Trevor Lawrence does
with this next possession. But uh, certainly Burrow not looking
as comfortable now and and and that's gonna that could
be a big storyline. And again, it could be one

(39:27):
of those injuries where I just need a little bit
of time and I gotta shake things off, then I'll
be back ready to go. It also could be one
of those where Okay, he's just gonna be limited and
we gotta do the best we can out of this
because we take Joe Burrow out and suddenly this game
goes down the too. How else do you prepare for
the Bengals. You gotta get drilled, You gotta get ready.

(39:49):
That's what the Bengals are saying. Oh we like the
punishment this kid can take. You're gonna take a lot
of it with us. And as you just said, you
also need to get hammered from Yeah, I mean if
you're on the bank, Yes, I know. I a number
of tweets tonight of the look how healthy a j
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(40:57):
through the third quarter. A little bit on this before
we get to a developing story coming out of this
game that really has to do with what happened at halftime.
I don't know if it's the left arm or the
ribs of Joe Burrow. We talked about this a few
minutes ago. We watched the first two drives of the
second half for L s U and Burrow just isn't
the same guy. He basically took a knee on a sack.

(41:19):
Uh didn't look like he was moving as well as
he had in the first half. And if it's something
that can be shaken off, he needs some time, all right,
L s You just have to survive until that's the case.
But if he's limited and this is how he's throwing
the football, it was three and out, three and out
for L s U the beginning of the second half.
It's gonna be a long second half and then they're
gonna be looking at a forty game by the time

(41:41):
this thing gets the early part of the fourth quarter.
This has been the This has become the storyline to
watch this game, is is Joe Burrow still healthy enough
that he can play and win this game? Every time
we've seen him, he looks like he's shaking off medical attention,
medical help and riding the stationary bike. And I would
hope he was looked at at halftime. Wasn't one of

(42:01):
those you're good right, show my my let's good. Good
get back out there. So I'm hoping he was looked at.
And this is further evaluation that they said, no, I'm good,
give me a few minutes. But if he can't play
like he has, I mean, it's gonna wind up being
a long second half of LSU curiosity because you've also
come out and you haven't run the ball at all. Right,
first half, Burrow ran the ball more uh than anybody

(42:24):
else on the L s U squad. Uh, you're looking
at Edwards Hilaire at five carriage thirty four yards, Burrow
already at ten forty three and a score. But they
didn't attempt to run. They went past plays six straight
plays on their two three and ounce. And he doesn't
look comfortable throwing the ball. Uh. It's just a potential

(42:44):
recipe for disaster here. As they come back out on
the field, he's I don't know, the look out his face,
the countenance. You know, you can do the whole body
language reading thing if you want. Jason does not look
like a guy that's comfortable. No, he's and and the
body languages is not so much about when the ball
is not being snapped. It's it's almost as if like

(43:06):
he's moving at three quarters speed a little bit like
he's he's wary of the injury and wants to protect
himself as much as he wants to make the play.
And like I said, the sometimes injuries like this or something, Hey,
this is what football players do. You shake it off
and then you go and you play and you win games.
This is why you're gonna be the number one pick
in the draft and why you are now going to

(43:26):
be You gotta be the tough guy. Sometimes it's well,
this is as best as you can do and and
we're not gonna get any better. So that's what I'm
hoping for Burrow. It's one of those things are okay,
I just need a little bit of time. I gotta
get past this. It was it was it. I gotta
my my mind has got to get right, my body's
gotta get over the shock. And I have to be
able to play the same way I played in the
first half. And for Burrow to do that, that's the

(43:49):
that's the key now to the game. He just ran
for a first down on first and tent, but he
slid um over through a receiver who was wide open.
Just now, what could have been a touchdown. I me,
this is he's got a full step on the dB.
Probably could have been pass interference. He gets pulled down
at the end, but hey, it is a Impact twelve officiating.

(44:12):
It's crazy, it's Pack twelve. I mean, you don't know
what's going but this is this is this is what
it's gonna be about. Now. Is Joe burrowing and is
he going to be able to make those plays that
he can make? You know what, you should throw a
challenge flag like the NFL. I want a challenge interference
like sit down. But nobody's calling that. Nobody's overturning that.
So we'll keep you update on this as as things

(44:34):
continue to go on. L s U with the lead.
We are midway through the third quarter right now of
the National Championship Game. Meanwhile, something that happened at halftime
is starting to gain a lot of traction on social
media and throughout virally, and that is the ESPN survey
for the best hundred and fifty college football players of

(44:55):
all time was completed, and at halftime es In introduced
the players who are the top eleven on that list,
and obviously some of them are no longer with us.
You had red Grange's cousin. Right, who how is that
the woman was young? How is that Red Granger's cousin?
I didn't understand and everything cousin by another. So the

(45:19):
list go, let's go through the life of Red Grange.
I'll do that while you talk. The list goes like
this for the top eleven of the hundred and fifty players,
and you watch a lot of them come out and waved.
Everybody was a great moment. Roger Stallback is number eleven,
Gayl Sayers number ten, Barry Sanders number nine, Dick but
Kiss number eight, to be Earl Campbell number seven, Red

(45:41):
Grange number six. Right, So that's eleven through six, Stallbacks, Sayers,
Barry Sanders, but Kiss, Earl Campbell, Red Grange. Now you
get Now you get to the top five, it's Jim Thorpe,
Archie Griffin, Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker and your accused no
SLOs Syracuse Jim Brown best college football player slovis is

(46:07):
that he's number twelve. Did they include his lacrosse stats?
What do we want to like lacrosse? I mean, my
man's got to before number four. He didn't really do
a lot and didn't really do anything in the pros.
I mean, I know they gave Bo Jackson a Heisman
the undeservedly when it should have been Chuck Longs. But oh,

(46:28):
stop stop pumping up for the beast. You have no
claim to Iowa. You're a Northwestern guy. A closed vote,
the closest vote. But here's my big thing with this list.
I gave you that list right there, and outside of
Dick Butkus, everybody's basically a running back. Roger Stallback's number eleven.

(46:48):
So what you're telling me is Roger stall Back is
the best quarterback in college football history. Okay, tell me nobody,
who's the most recent? Bo Jackson. You're telling me that, right, yeah,
Bo Jackson. All the great players we have had, there's
not one in the quote modern era of college football
Sanders by Sanders. I mean, you can get those beautiful

(47:12):
green score rookie guards and and Dion Sanders and Troy Aikman.
Not that you wanted to be prisoner of the moment
and say everybody's coming from the past fifteen or twenty years.
We gotta put Ricky Williams on list. We got to that.
But the big issue I have you have Roger stall
Back at number eleven when you're talking about college football

(47:32):
and he's the best college football player I've seen in
the modern era. A guy that won two national championships,
Heisman Trophy and senior year, went twelve and oh in
the regular season, Tim Tebow has to be on this list,
in the top five, if not in the top three.
You're talking about the top college football players of all time.

(47:55):
Stop that, Like, forget about the pros, forget about whatever
reality shows Tebow's doing. For about proposing to his fiance
and a gazebo on an island that's named for him.
Jesus Christ, take everything else out of it. Tim Tebow,
what he accomplished as a college football player. Nobody has
that resume. Nobody's got that resume. Heisman Trophy, to national championships,

(48:18):
twelve and OH records, senior year, along with numerous quarterback awards.
Best Quarterback in the Country Award three times. What else
does he? What else the guy need to do? I mean,
I I feel like that's a backlash, and specifically people
don't whoever voted didn't want to give it to Tebow. No,
I'm not putting Tebo on the list the best quarter
So I get them to show up and wave and
and wait, now, screw Tebow. I'm not gonna put him

(48:40):
on that list. When Tebow really is the best college
football player I've seen in the modern era. Here's number
seventies six, that's where he belongs. That's that is just
insane because we're talking as this game gets hyped, right,
and Joe Burrow with the year that he's had, talking
about single season, one of the the rate single seasons

(49:01):
we've ever seen in college football. For Trevor Lawrence was
what he's done. If he wins tonight and then he's
still got to come back for one more year, and
if they have another fantastic run, who's he being compared
to be compared to the career that Tebow had? HM? Right,
I mean that's the guy you bring up. You don't
bring up any of these other guys. Dan Marino's ahead
of him. I mean Peyton Man, he didn't win anything,

(49:22):
pass for a lot of yards. They won the National
Championship the year after that. Where's Team Martin? Where's Team
Martin on the list of greatest college football players of
all time? And I don't mean it needs to be
everybody from the past years, but the most. You're telling
me nobody from the last thirty years is good enough
to be in the top ten greatest college football players

(49:44):
of all time. Tebow seventy six, Um Manning is fifty,
Jack Tatum, you got, Jim Plunkett. Uh, just keep on going.
Eddie George, I love Eddie George. Right leaf to had
one big year. I got that for saying, this is
an ESPN poll. This is this is this is this

(50:05):
is ESPN ran a a poll for the greatest players
in college football history and ESPN survey media members, college administrators,
former players, and coaches. The greatest part about it is
Bo works for ESPN. Yeah. Well, I mean that's the
thing that's the most surprising of it all. Knocking on
everybody's doors, he walks down the hallway. Hey vote for me, right, okay, great?

(50:25):
Hey vote for me? Okay, Hey Norby, Hey great, vote
for me? Okay, great, Thanks appreciate. That's the thing that
doesn't make any sense. You'd think he would get like
entry music, like he was a w w E superstar. Hey,
Jesse Palmer, Yeah, can you get enough time off that
food baking Championship show and vote for me? Okay? Great? Thanks?
This guy's finished seventy vote for me. I mean really

(50:45):
of the modern era of the impact on the game.
And this is where it's good we get to remember
the impact that he had because it was still just
you know, seven eight years ago. He had an impact
unlike anybody on the sport to college football. And it's
not like he was someone well, he just won. He
didn't really know. I mean, he won and he put

(51:06):
up the stats. I mean Tebow did what I mean,
it's not like he's well, he had twelve touchdowns. No, No,
that that's not That's not Tim Tebow. That's not that's
not anything that he had to do. He was He
was a guy responsible for over thirty touchdowns. He was
a guy that responsible for all kinds of offense. He
won every single award you could possibly think of as

(51:27):
a quarterback in college football. I I really, I I
don't understand. He threw for thirty two touchdowns in two
thousand seven, thirty touchdowns in two thousand eight. Right, he
had ten interceptions total in those two seasons, and then
running the football he was up near a thousand yards
and all three of those seasons, and his touchdowns were twelve,
fourteen and twenty three. The guy did everything, he did everything.

(51:50):
He accounted for fifty touchdowns a year, two out of
his three years. And you talk about what he won
and what he what he did, there's three years as
a starter. I I don't know how he's left off
in the top ten and how he comes in at
seventy six, and how people who are on the top
of this list. And I also have an issue with
people voting. Nobody saw Red Grange play college football. Nobody

(52:13):
saw him play I I'm not gonna be I'm not
gonna try to to say be naive as I tell
you you know how good Red Grange was. I'm sure
Red Grange was flipping fantastic, right, But I can't tell
you how good Red Grange was. Who can tell you
how good Red Grange was? He was his cousin. Who
can tell Red Grange lived in the right old age
of dying. That's how you have the cousin that's able

(52:36):
to get out there. But here's something that really surprises
you and smacks you in the head. Illinois had two
guys in the top ten. Illinois hasn't been relevant and
college and since semi on right, I mean, I mean
Jim Thorpe, who can really tell tell me? Why is
Jim Thorpe? So, I mean you can look at his numbers.
You have you've seen it. I mean it's ridiculous, man,

(53:02):
I don't know. It's an award kind of day. Everybody
was mad about the oscars. So you carried it into
the one. You leave future Mets out fielder Tim Tebow
out of your roster and baby, come on, let's go.
Now that Beltrans getting the needle. Don't want a surprise.
We didn't do an hour. Well maybe they couldn't manage
have t bowpy manager, I guess they could. Uh this

(53:25):
justin L s U is increasing their lead thirty five
twenty five. They now have a ten point lead over Clemson.
Burrow is able to get L s U down the field,
helped in large part to a targeting penalty that tax
fifteen yards onto a big play. Two plays later, L

(53:46):
s U is in the end zone. So now it
is a thirty five lead for l s U. Five
thirteen to go in the third quarter, Burrow four yard
touchdown past the moss. And I'll tell you what. This
is the drive of the game. Because everything was teetering
on how healthy. Is Joe Burrow Canny still lead l

(54:08):
s U two points? Can he get them down the field?
And he found a way to do it where it
looked like this could have been one of those quarters
where he's still struggling from injury. Cleinson comes behind it
takes the lead, and now Cleinson is looking at the
double digit deficit again because Burrows able to get him
down in the end zone. A couple of runs from
fourteen yards total. You had a couple of past players,

(54:29):
but the personal file, the ejection of Skalski changes the
complexion of this game and helps to build the lead.
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there's officiating controversies is gonna be coming out of this game.

(54:52):
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(55:34):
go in the third quarter, Clemson cannot gain the yard
is needed for a first down. They punt and now
L s U has the football with a ten point
lead as they can. I don't want to say they
can put it away because CLEMSIC can still put points up,
but boy, Clemson had their opportunity, their time early in

(55:54):
the third quarter to really get back in this and
potentially take the lead. And in head Joe Burrow has
been able to clear his head, clear his ribs, whatever
was hurting. I'm following his touchdown pass to close the
second quarter and gathers what's about him enough to lead
L s U down for a touchdown. It's a ten
point lead with the football at their own thirty two.

(56:17):
Another touchdown you make it. That's gonna make it really
tough for Clemson. I don't know the Cleson is gonna
be able to say, hey, we can go and get
three scores here and stop l s U the rest
of the way. One more score from LSU. Here's gonna
do it. Well, you look at the way this is
opened up Burrow with another big completion as we speak
here on one of nine third down conversions for Clemson tonight.

(56:40):
You're looking at Trevor Lawrence now at sixteen of thirty.
So no semblance of consistency. We talked about Scout Ski
getting ejected for the targeting uh, targeting gall on that
last L s U touchdown possession. Uh, and they had
moved the ball down at will again. I mean you're
looking at chases up to eight for two eighteen and
two wars on the night. He had a forty three

(57:01):
yard reception on that last drive. There's no answer. The
big plays are all coming to L s U. And
they just missed another opportunity here. Uh, just outside shoulder,
ball falls harmlessly into the ground. But uh, the boat
race potential here like a Kansas City Chiefs event is
what we're looking at here. Uh, Chase, who's got two

(57:22):
eighteen yards and two touchdowns, just dropped a touchdown pass
in the end zone that Burrow was gonna hit because
he made a great play two plays ago to get
out of trouble and flick a past to uh running
back for a for for a big game in the
first down, and then they go for it all and
Chase is open. He's got a yard and a half

(57:44):
on the defensive back and Burrow puts it beautifully over
his outside shoulder in the ends on of me. This
has to be a touchdown. He looks inside but still outside. Yeah,
but still you look up. That's where you gotta put
it there and hits you. If it hits you, if
it's coming down and it hits you on your holder,
or it hits you on even on the front. You
gotta make that play. And Chase doesn't make it. And

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so now here is l s U trying to convert
a third down play. They haven't been very good at
that either. That could have been Yeah, but that that
could have been a that could have been a play
that really ends again, I mean, you get upon Clenson
is gonna stop L s U in the entire fourth
quarter and they're gonna overcome a seventeen point deficit. I
don't see that. Well, that was a potential w W

(58:27):
E finishing move right there. Thirty two yard touchdown pass
would have been a huge boost. I mean, to to
get that out to a seventeen point lead. And like
you said, Lawrence hasn't looked nearly as efficient. First quarter.
They had a couple of drives, some stalls, but overall
time of possession and field possession or field position they owned.

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And since then it's it's been tough sledting. He's sitting
at what passing yards on the night, uh yet to
throw a touchdown. He did run for their first score
all the way back in the first order, but on
even choppy the linebackers for L s U making some
big plays and they're they're really pinching the pocket even
though there's been sixty points scored and you're looking at

(59:12):
the defense is overall and they made some blaze here,
which is kind of frightening to say. I mean, look,
you see the look. Both both of these defenses have
been very underrated because you're seeing a big aerial show
put on tonight. But this is because of the talent
level of both quarterbacks Burrow and Trevor Lawrence, who if
they were both coming out this year, would be my goodness,
who do you take number one? Is it Burrow for

(59:34):
one year? Is it Lawrence after what he's done for
the last couple of years. I mean, that would be
the big debate. Go to the draft table and say,
we officially punned until we pass. We have the rights
to Trevor Lawrence next year? Passed? How many times you're
gonna see teams this year with Trevor Lawrence coming out
next year, you're gonna see so many tech No, no, no,
we're no. We're going to the super Bowl next year.

(59:55):
Everybody's gonna take and we're gonna the only team winning games,
just like you were going thirteen and three this year. Know, well,
look Donald got Mono and that was that was, And
and we hired Adam Gaze. That was yeah, that was
that was. The two big things that really hurt us
was was those two things happen. Quick update from the game.
L s U was stopped on third down. A little

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screen pass doesn't get the yardage. L s u s
field goal is wide right, so the buck forty to
go in the third quarter, l s U still with
a ten point lead on Clemson. And I'll say this,
if Clemson comes back to win this game, I guarantee
what we're going to talk about a lot is that
drop touchdown pass by Chase because that could have been

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the game and then the end resolve after that as
a missed field goal. Is that momentum getting to Clemson
side and a touchdown here makes it a makes it
a one score game, and suddenly everybody's a little nervous
and LSU was getting nervous. You can't just give touchdowns away.
And LSU gave that touchdown away because he's got he's
got he's good enough to make that pen. This is

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do you or I you know, running out going Okay,
I'm looking over the inside shoulder, but it's kind of
coming down over the outside shoulder. You still have to
make that, kid, And it's one that they've made a play.
They've made some fifty times over the course of the season. Right,
That's what we started the show why as we were
watching Joe Burrow and the pinpoint precision is that trust
from your wide receivers. And one of the things wanted to,

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you know, give a little bit more color to my
comments before about the defense making plays. There have already
been fourteen punts in this game. I mean, we're talking
about fast possessions. Look, so there's sixty points on the
board and you still had fourteen punts. Well, the l
s U punted three times in the first quarter, and
they punted three times against Oklahoma. Did they even get

(01:01:43):
to that many? I mean, I don't even think they
punted that many time. You know, they could have Here's
the thing. L s U could have traveled without a punter.
We're not gonna punt. We're just gonna go for it
on fourth down. And would they have lost the game,
But would they won the game any less points against Oklahoma?
We're gonna travel without a punter. We're not going punt today.
That's a fair point. We're not gonna do it. That's bold.

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You want to talk about being bold with your team.
Forget about those raw ross speeches we heard from Judge
and rule. Hey, punter, you're not traveling. We're going down there?
What did I do? Oh no, no, you're great, and
everything is awesome and you do everything we ask and no,
we love it. Now, we're just not gonna bring a putter.
It's on the other fifty two of you. We're not
doing it. We're not doing it. Uh So Clemson really

(01:02:28):
struggling right now on offense, Trevor Lawrence having a lot
of difficulty. We'll get into that coming up in nineties
seconds as well as why the big penalty that saw
one of the best players on Clemson ejected. I think
it was warranted. But first, Ralph irvn has what's trending?
All right? Well, you just saw another overthrow from Trevor Lawrence.
Six overthrows on third downs. Now in this game. As

(01:02:51):
for l s U and their ten point lead, how
did they get there? Yes, coach down to eight. Now
he stands in the gun weights on this snap, Joe
looking and throws late. But he gets Moss left corner
and did he get in? That's a touchdown? Got it
over the pylon left side of the end zone. Ellis
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(01:03:13):
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it down before the third quarter is over again. Up
thirty seconds to go in the third as we sent
it back to Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, thank you
are yes. Five seconds left to go and it is
L s U who are on the field now after
getting the punt from Clemson and Trevor Lawrence is really

(01:04:40):
struggling here in the second half. Ever since they put
up that touchdown to cut the lead to three, Lawrence
is really struggling to move the football. He's thrown for
two hundred yards, hasn't thrown for a touchdown. But what's
happening is on third down, you're one for ten and
that's what Clemson is right now. And it's art of
the game, six out of eight on third down, and

(01:05:02):
now he's ten for twenty four. You're not gonna win.
I feel like it's booger McFarlan analysis. Well, you're not
gonna win. We don't do on third but L s
U has really clamped down. It's almost like an NBA
team that plays situational defense, where we're not gonna play
great defense all the time, but when we play great
defense in the final four minutes of the fourth quarter,

(01:05:22):
it looks like we're really playing great We can really
slow you down because it's something you're not expecting because
we play defense at this level for the first forty
two minutes of the game. And that's really what is
happening with with L s U and Clemson is that
you know, you see Clemson, they're moving the football, okay,
and then it gets to third down and everything Trevor
Lawrence throws is an overthrow. And that's the one concern

(01:05:46):
that I have about Trevor Lawrence, as good as he
is and everything he can do. When we watch him
win the National Championship last year, what did we say
about him on National Championship Night? Boy, Trevor Lawrence having
a great night. But man, his receivers are wide open,
al right, He's he's not He's throwing the ball in
tight windows. And I've seen Trevor Lawrence do it many
times before, but he is not doing it tonight and

(01:06:06):
he is He's not getting the ball into tight windows.
And that's really causing issues for Clemson, who really like
this is an offense now they need something, They need
some kind of divine intervention because they have nothing going
on right now. I mean, really, it's it's I'm watching
them play. It's like there's no rhythm. It doesn't look
like there's a plan. It looks like they're going out there.
We're just gonna start throwing plays until something works. And

(01:06:28):
that that's been the last you know, four drives for
for Clemson, three possessions, three of three for nine use
one for one in that first drive that resulted in
a touchdown. They go six plays fifty yards on that,
aided by a penalty that moved the ball, so you
have that. Otherwise it's struggling. I mean a couple of
the overhead shots you're seeing the throwing motion looks a

(01:06:51):
little awkward, and it's it's all overthrows. Remember how we
we were asking about the targeting or the unnecessary roughness
to offensive receiver possibility of a play early in the
first half. That was also a ball that sailed about
four ft over the receiver's head right where he didn't
even have a chance to make a play on it.
So he's been going high all night. Arm angle and

(01:07:14):
accuracy certainly not there on third downs. They've just been abysmal.
And been getting run off the field Twitter, I'd have
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Show with Mike Harmon live from the Geico Studios. And
one of the big turning points of this game happened
on the last drive that L s U had The
resulted in their uh touchdown to push the lead back

(01:07:34):
out to ten. And that was as the result of
a targeting penalty on Clemson linebacker James Skalski, who has
played really well tonight. He gets the flag for targeting
and gets ejected. And I've already seen on social media
and and and and on Twitter many defenders of all,
how can you throw the kid out? This is I

(01:07:55):
get the penalty, but how can you throw him out
of the game? Was it a penalty that helped L
s U immensely? I mean, you know, they had the
ball just outside the red zone. This put them deep
in the red zone and it was one play later
that L. S U is in the end zone for
a touchdown. But watching this play, Skalski has Jefferson in
his sights. He runs at him, he lowers his head,

(01:08:19):
he can't see what he's hitting, right, And that's a
big deal. You got to be able to see it.
There's no way he sees what he's hitting, lowers his head,
leads with the crown of his helmet, and leaves his
feet to launch himself at the receiver. Yeah, I kind
of get the ejection. I I get the penalty and
I get the ejection because if it's one of those
plays where in you feel bad for a kid because

(01:08:40):
all he's played so well, and it's the National Championship game,
but all three of those things, I mean, that's what
you get ejected for. You don't want to get ejected.
You want to risk getting objected. Don't hit a guy
like that. But that's exactly he lowered his helmet, he
led with the crown of his helmet, and he left
his feet. That's something that's gonna get you the penalty
and it's gonna get you eject. And we've seen obviously
the comparisons Chesier Harrison, a number of guys from the

(01:09:03):
the NFL, the comparisons into that style of hit, and yeah,
it's it's just the I guess it's incongruous. Is really
the problem as the way they handle targeting and big
hits and what you don't want to can't legislate big
hits out of the game. That's certainly true. But the
play I was referring to with Stevens from l s

(01:09:24):
U with the big hit on a defensive receiver, that's
fine because he didn't hit him with his helmet even
though the guy's wide open ribs exposed the whole nine yards.
That's fine. It's it's just a problem I think with
the rules. But in that particular case, as you say,
I mean, he went road warrior style, right, he left
his feet put his head down. Yeah, I look, I

(01:09:46):
feel bad. Do I feel bad that someone gets thrown
out of the National Championship game, especially someone who was
playing pretty well? He was all over the field site,
had a lot of tackles. Yeah, but it's it's not
something that is really defensible all the penalty, but have
to kick him out. Yeah, that that's sort of the
whole thing behind the rule to stop to stop things
like that from happening. I don't see there being something

(01:10:08):
where you can you know, you have a leg to
stand on with. Okay, well you shouldn't have thrown up
why because he did? Because he did what exactly to
make you feel that he wasn't out to target the player. Well,
and I'm watching a lot of debate as we're here
doing the show on social media. It's like we're kind
of doing that show that ESPN does, right when all
the coaches on the one channel's like you and I
and social media are doing the show again, we're doing

(01:10:29):
the same thing as you roll through it. It's because
he hits him and Jefferson pops up and flips the
ball to the referee. Yeah, right, If he'd laid there
for two seconds to catch his breath, is that then
going to draw the flag? I mean, what's our what's
our criterion from deciding whether this was okay within the

(01:10:49):
rules or all right? Since he got back up, it's
not as important. You know, if he'd gone higher, right,
if he'd gotten him at the collar bone, would you
have felt better about it? I mean, I I don't
know what the the folks that are trying to dismiss
it we're looking for. Because people people still some people
still like to go with the no blood, no foul,
all right, no blood, no foul, It's okay and all right.

(01:11:10):
Part of me I understand that, but this is a
very big issue for football, is the health of players
and protecting them from illegal hits that could really damage them.
I mean, this is, this is. This is not all Hey,
we're gonna have fair catches inside the twenty yard line
now decide No, this is this is we're talking about
the fabric of the game to keep kids healthy and
keep players healthy in the NFL. Well. But that that's

(01:11:31):
why I bring up that Steven's hit from before, right,
because you compare them. I mean, the damage was far
worse on the Clemson receiver, right because he goes down
like he is. He's exposed. And part of that is
Trevor Lawrence and his night of throwing high uh and
and over his receivers and leaving them. I mean, that's
one of those that pro wide receiver would run to

(01:11:55):
the sideline and start shaking your face mask because you
you left him open for a big hit. But you
know that play was in the rules. Right. You can
hate the law, but the laws there. Twitter at how
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(01:12:16):
one who is just on TV doing you're doing the
broadcast for FS one. He was not a fan of
the targeting foul being called on Skalski. This is why
the rule is so bad. This is the worst rule
in college football. Uh so dumb, this is so dumb.
What are we doing. I'm going to Twitter officiating. The

(01:12:38):
rule is what you're doing. I'm going to Twitter. You
saw how many times you see I don't know how
you can defend that. Joe class is on Twitter. We
got to include two types of targeting foul without intent
player not ejected, obvious targeting of opponent's head or neck,
player ejected. Ejecting players for playing hard is stupid. I
don't know how you can lowered his helmet, can't see

(01:13:00):
what he's hitting, loutched himself at the player used the
crown of his helmet. Well, I I don't get it. Yeah.
The other voice you heard heard there was friend of
the show, Mike Brera. I mean not nothing. Joel Klanson,
not a friend of the show, will be on with
us tomorrow. We'll go back review some of his comments
related to this play. As they're sitting doing the Mystery
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Every time I hear this song, I just want to drink.
I can't tell you how many, how many beers I
had to this song when I was younger, when I
was nineteen, when I was one, and then you drank
your beer. That was just an awful, awful call. Man.
Oh you're insane, all right, so terrible. You gotta do
a shot for every time you said Joe Burrow was

(01:14:08):
done tonight and I didn't say Joe Burrow is. I said,
if he's he wasn't, that's right, I said, he's done.
Get rid of him getting to Cincinnati already. L s
U leads Clemson eleven minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
Joe Burrow his fifth touchdown pass of the night, giving

(01:14:28):
l s U the seventeen point lead a beautiful throw
to Marshall twenty four yard touchdown over the outside shoulder,
and Burrow is showing exactly what we talked about earlier
on is what he does to take advantage and putting
the football in the right place on one on one place.

(01:14:51):
I've never seen him throw into double coverage. I've never
seen him try. He finds the coverage he likes where
it's one on one and gets his receiver in a
position to make a play on the ball where either
the receiver's catching the ball or no one is. And
with the athletes he has out there, a wide receiver,
he's putting the ball in that spot and they're coming
down with it. It's almost like watching Eli Manning in

(01:15:15):
his prime, because what what did Eli Manning do so well?
The two things he did was he always got the
giants in the right formation right. That was the one
thing he always you would see Eli would get to
the line of scrimmage and he would adjust the protection,
he would adjust the formation and get the giants in
the right spot. He would find the right matchup that
was one on one, and he would put the ball
up and where it looked like always just putting it

(01:15:36):
up for grabs. No, he's putting it up where either
his player is gonna get it or nobody else will.
Sometimes it turns out into a pick most of the time,
and turning the touchdowns and Eli Manning's hat a Hall
of Fame career and one two Super Bowls. It's like
Joe Burrow is that with a stronger arm, because these
balls are dropping in perfectly. It's not like he's putting
the ball where his receivers have to make an incredible

(01:15:58):
jump and I'll look at this, they're just out jumping.
He's putting. They know when to look back for the ball,
they know where it's going to be, and it's in
a perfect spot. It is one on one. You're gonna
make this play and the dB isn't. And this is
what Joe Burrow lives on. Love it up, catch it
in stride. Five touchdown passes the they had the touchdown
earlier on the ground as well, So just another just

(01:16:21):
another day at the office for Joe Burrow. Two nine
point eight average and sixty rushing yards on the ground.
That's a that's a nice day for him. Having yourself, Uh,
you thought it was just Oklahoma and for a quarter.
I mean that. That's the funny thing is for the
first quarter they did nothing. It was a scouting mission

(01:16:42):
for three possessions. It's really I was all right, we
picked up other signals, all look at me, and away
you go. And now it's just, uh, can you run
out the clock? Because remember with ten ten left in
this game as we go into our four, uh, it
is a lot of football left. Anything is possible with
the pack twelve question, the better we are. Uh. So

(01:17:10):
that's where we are. Is the score LSU getting the
football back as Clemson again goes three and out and
cannot do anything. Trevor Lawrence has had a lot of
difficulty moving the football. And now what you were talking about.
A couple of minutes ago, Clemson did throw a touchdown.
It looked like it was cutting the lead to thirty one.
But Higgins, who left the game for a few minutes

(01:17:33):
and then came back. We watched him going to the
tunnel and then came back a few minutes later, makes
the touchdown catch. Okay, it's cleans is not dead, but
offensive pass interference is called. I saw it, you disagreed.
I saw Higgins come and make contact with the dB
and he had his hand on the back of his
shoulder pan and kind of threw him to the ground

(01:17:54):
so he could make that catch. And I could see
the flag. But you don't like the flag because there's okay,
there's hands going the other way, and then there's still
the defensive back pulling on the jersey off ther receiver
Higgins as he's going and they're separating, right, they're just
hand fighting and looked like two guys battling for position.

(01:18:15):
If he doesn't grab him by the shoulder pad as
momentum is taking both of them and pull him to
get him away so we can catch the ball, I
could see there being a no call, but that was
what it was. He grabs him around the shoulder pad,
by the jersey and and throws him. Get off him
because he's holding him on the other side. Look at
the other angle that was. Where is that the more

(01:18:36):
just than the defensive player? Then then don't then then
get the call. They're shouldn't be calling anything, shouldn't be
throwing flags at all. You know who you're playing. It's
it's a national title game. You don't know her Edwards
could be refing this game. You have no idea, just pathetic.
That would be an upgrade. It's just a pathetic call.

(01:18:57):
He's trying to get to the ball and you got
hand fighting and you still have the defensive back with
his arm trying to pull him down, and yet it's
offensive passat it's a clown show. Wow, look at you
that a little little the fro circus fro circus from
our next there. Scared of clowns, I think he is.

(01:19:21):
Are you really scared of clothes because that because you
know this week i'd have I'd have like five clowns
just running into the studio. He'd come and dress as
Ronald McDonald. As long as he bought some hamburgers with him,
I think he'll be okay. He just starts throwing hamburgers
at that would be scared to have different clowns scaring
you all from a representative from a different Hamburger. He

(01:19:44):
just said, Jason, hamburgers and sharing in the same sentence,
I'll share hamburgers, cheeseburgers. I'll eat hamburgers all shares. I
have cheese on him. Why would eat a hamburger doesn't
have cheese on it? That's stupid. Just a hamburger, that's
just stupid. Why would I have that? Here eat the hamburger,
but it's got cheese. Oh, well, you have cheese on it.
I will have it. I'll have that. But they eat
the hand when you go out, cheese with you, he

(01:20:07):
probably does. No, but no, no, no, I don't carry cheese.
But yeah, because you don't have to refrigerate that a
blowtorch to heat it up. No. No. The only thing
I carry with me your straws now because now here
in l A, I don't know if I'm walking in
getting a plastic straw. Now I gotta use something paper.
That's going to be terrible. I have a couple of
nice themed ones that I've bought. But what I will
do is if I don't. If they forget cheese on

(01:20:29):
my sandwich, whether it's Burger King or something else McDonald's,
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s U on the cusp of the National Championship Can
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down a winning time, still going six to go in

(01:21:14):
the fourth quarter of the National Championship Game. L s
U leads Clemson forty two to five. They have the football,
a couple of first downs. Are gonna do it here?
As this is officially a three score game for Clemson
and they're facing a third and fifteen now are L

(01:21:36):
s U. If they get this first down, they're gonna
take it down to at least four minutes. Clemson has
a couple of time outs left to go. You know,
we talked about this a few minutes ago when it
was thirty. That was the moment that if L s
U gets that next score, that was gonna be it.
And Burrow throws his fifth touchdown of the night. It's
been a phenomenal night for Joe Burrow, who was overcome

(01:21:58):
injury that looked like it might not him out of
the game, and what he's done is continue to lead
a virtuoso performance and putting a cap on one of
the greatest seasons in college football history. Again a three
score game with just about six minutes left to go
on the fourth. This is where if you're l. S U.
P R. Before he goes anywhere near a podium or
a post game interview, you're gonna embellish how much pain

(01:22:21):
he was in, how hurt he was. Look at look
at Joe Burrow, our guy gutting it out to break
the all time record for passing touchdowns. Uh sorry, Colt Brennan,
it was a good run. Uh that's right. Get the
Hawaii quarterback in when you can't, but you got the
Just a massive game overall, four five score, sixty yards

(01:22:42):
on the ground, another touchdown, and just big play, affter,
big play and just they've added a little more of
the run game now, Edwards Hilaire up to twelve carry
seventy three yards. But Clemson's defense holds, so we saying
they still got a puncher's chance. But Trevor Lawrence is
gonna have to improve that accuracy really fast. If that's

(01:23:04):
gonna happen here. Uh, right now, l s who's gonna punt?
So Clemons is gonna get the football back again. Still
down three scores, are gonna get it back with about
fuh I would say just under five minutes left to
go here, So it's almost over for Clemson. But for
Joe Burrow, let's just think about this for one second.

(01:23:26):
Here's Burrow five touchdown passes tonight. All right, this is
in the in the championship game, two and a half
quarters against a team that hasn't lost in two years,
hadn't given up more than fifty five touchdowns this year
coming into this game. I don't know that you're gonna

(01:23:47):
have a better season from a quarterback in college football
in the history of the game. Right now. Again, not
to be prisoner at the moment, but on a night
where ESPN put out the list of the top hundred
and f d college football players of all time, Roger
stall Back is the top quarterback on the list with
at number eleven. Not to make Joe Burrow the greatest

(01:24:09):
quarterback of all time, but man, we went through some
seasons that Tim Tebow has had a dominant He has
this great quarterback seasons the guys have had. But Joe Burrow,
you're talking about sixty touchdowns and six picks and they're
gonna win fifteen games and win the national championship. I
I don't know there's a better season as a quarterback
in the history of college football in this I mean
there's guys that grant, but you're talking about no one

(01:24:31):
had thrown for more touchdowns. It was him and Coult
Brennan coming into the game, and now it's Joe Burrow.
And if the name of the game is touchdowns, and yeah,
you can say he's done it against some bad teams,
but you know what, everybody plays against bad teams over
the course season in college football. Nobody plays eleven great team.
It's still an SEC schedule, right, and the SEC, like
all conferences, have their have nots. Right, There's it's top heavy,

(01:24:55):
let's call it what it is. There's there's some good teams,
and there's several at the top are great and they
always have to have a couple of bottom feeders, and
so you could feast a bit on them, but you
can't look away from the overall. I mean, coming into
the game, seventy completion ratet t vs. Six picks another three, ten,

(01:25:17):
uh and four on the ground. Right, So I mean
you're talking about getting it done every which way. He
can't diminish it. Now you can say I only did
it for one year. So if you're gonna reshuffle these
hundred fifty rankings, I don't know where you put them in. Right.
Vince Young was a few slots behind Tim Tebow. Tebow
coming in at seventy six from a poll run amongst

(01:25:40):
college football experts run by his company right that employs him,
and Vince Young was eight one, I think, or in
the low eighties. I mean, that's that's probably where he
fits that. I guess if you put it in those
that context, right of one monster year that defines your career,
But this is one that as you go through L.

(01:26:03):
S U offensively challenged for a lot of my lifetime, right,
and let's go what it is is not. I mean,
they've been good teams, but this one just opening up,
and the wide receivers, big play threats on every possession.
Even on this last L. S U possession, it looked
like he was going to tuck the ball and run,
and you started to just see everybody suck up, and

(01:26:23):
he's like I think I'll throw it over the top
and everybody collides. They decide no harm, no fall, So
it sets up a point. But still, just that moment
of panic and freezing of the defense is what you
get when you're that pinpoint. Now do they throw the
football a ton more now than they did previously in
college football? Yeah, they do so, but every every era
is different. And certainly you look at other quote, Look

(01:26:47):
how great a quarterback like Roger stall Back was. I
told you Tim Tebow needs to be in the top
three list of quarterbacks all time in college football because
of what he accomplished. And you know, look Burrows throwing
the ball forty times a game. Not many guys so
the ball four times a game. But he's having tremendous success.
He's led his team to what is likely going to

(01:27:07):
be a national championship, sixty touchdowns, fifty yards passing against
an SEC schedule, as you said, and that's the important part.
This isn't cult Brennan for Hawaii doing this against air
Force and Wyoming. No, No, this is an SEC schedule
against Alabama and Auburn and all the other SEC teams

(01:27:28):
that we've seen him succeed against. Doesn't matter who they are.
Joe Burrow has succeeded, makes no difference. If they're playing
an also ran, it's an also ran and Joe Burrow
plays great. If they're playing a great team, doesn't matter.
Number four team in the country Georgia four touchdowns, number
four team in the country, Oklahoma seven touchdowns, Well, okay,
number three team in the in the country, Alabama three touchdowns,

(01:27:49):
four hunderd yards passing. I mean, what do you want
from the guy? They really sixty touchdowns, six picks yards,
fifteen wins, a national championship. Nobody else, nobody else has
done what Joe Burrows heady blunde in three top five teams.
When you add this performance tonight, right, they beat up
on Alabama. They absolutely demolished Oklahoma to the point where
he said, hey, Saturday night plans are back on. Those

(01:28:12):
seats didn't sell on StubHub yet, right, we can still
go out come by And then all these days later
you're like, all right, Ross, what's gonna happen? Where were at?
He takes the big hit, keeps going, puts up another
big performance, and now they're demolishing Clemson. Uh, and they're
going to get an opportunity to run the clock out.
Now Clemson with the football, Trevor Lawrence scrambling for a

(01:28:34):
first down, is hit, he fumbles. L s U recovers,
they have the football. Now just under four minutes left
to go. Dabo Sweeney is telling Trevor Lawrence, it's okay,
we got one more year, one more year, maybe two
if you want to stay, maybe two week win the
national championship again. So now LSU has a chance to
run the clock out and win this game. Three forty

(01:28:55):
five left to go. First down play, they just run,
goes for a first down. Uh, they stay in bounds,
So the clock continues to run. Clemson still with two
time outs. But I mean, that's it. L s U
is gonna be your national champion and they're gonna do
it with an exclamation point. One of those years that
I like. I like years wait. It's great to have
a great game and have great drama to talk about,

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but I also like, here's where teams say, you know
what we are the best and we are going to
put an exclamation point on it. And that's what l
s U was doing. There's no taint, there's no yeah,
but there's no but if there were eight teams in
the plant, there's none of that. That's l s U
was the best and they have proven it. Do we
get to say that Dabo and Clemson didn't belong there? Now? Oh,
look at you hot take Davo Sweenie overrated. They would

(01:29:38):
have gotten a better game from Ohio State. Take well,
look like that Ohio State had a chance. Oh had
a chance, and they ran the wrong route. They could
have gotten the end zone. They could have their chance.
And I all got news for you. If Ohio State
had won this game, had won the game against Clemson,

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and I remember watching the game and I tweeted out,
it's gonna take a mistake or a broken play or
a tip ball for Ohio State to to lose this
game and for Clemson to win because Ohio because because
Ohio State just couldn't um, because Clemson couldn't stop Ohio
State going down the field, and sure enough, the wrong
pass route is running and the interceptions thrown in the
end zone. If Ohio State had won that game, I

(01:30:22):
depicted Ohio State in this because I think Ohio State
had the athletes and had the defense to really cause
problems against Joe Burrow they could have really, cause hey,
we're gonna stick on you. You like louse as good
as the one on one coverage has been tonight. I
think Ohio State would have found a way because Ohio
States defense was absolutely phenomenal all season long. But they lose,

(01:30:42):
and I think that was the big breather. I remember writing,
I remember tweeting out two weeks ago Ohio State lou
that l s U biggest sigh of relief that they
get Clemson instead of Ohio States. So we need to
keep an eye on anything that develops in the streets
of New Orleans. We also have to watch for anybody
that covers USC football because the memes are going to

(01:31:05):
be fantastic. He remember, hey you now this, come on,
national champion. Go back to Eddie oh was the in
was America's inter room coach. In two thousand, USC decided
we don't want him, We'd rather have Steve Sarkisian. And

(01:31:26):
now Sarkisian hat issues, but this is more about not
not hiring at order and who had had chances. But boy,
is he a guy? Is he a next level head coach?
Is he someone that can win? And now look at
him here, he didn't have a cooler filled with booze. Yeah,
you gotta have that. He just had a great accent.
He's had a great accent. I just always liked those
ads he was doing for card dealerships when he was

(01:31:47):
down in Mississippi. That was the best four guy. What
is he the well? I think no, he's like, what
are you gonna pay me? Battle cat like him a tier?
How come is there? How has there not been a
car called the Tiger? We get everything else? How is
it up in a car called the Tiger? We have

(01:32:08):
the Buick Lacrosse? Why the hell's lacross? What the hell
is that? I mean? We got sorry not Jack's not
badass enough Jack's group. But how do you not have
a tiger? How is there not a tiger? I don't
I don't know. A lion? I mean no, we should
be lions too. There a bear? There should be bears.
Oh my, there should be all of those. See what
I do there? I don't know why there's not should

(01:32:30):
be all three of those. But it's definitely a tiger.
It doesn't need to be an orange and black car.
Could it should be that? We're gonna have to figure
that out. Uh. And that looks like it is going
to be it. On a fourth down play, l s
U runs the football rather than kick it back to Clemson.
They gain the first down. There is one forty seven

(01:32:51):
and counting on the clock, first and ten for l
s U. Clemson has one time out left, so it
is over. The only thing that's going to be a
question is l s you're gonna be able to get
in the end zone or they going to fall down
and let the clock tick out. And that certainly looks
like the strategy they're gonna have right now. I assume
we're gonna get a time out from Clemson at some point,
but maybe not. And uh, it's just gonna get all

(01:33:13):
the way down and LSU is gonna win this football
game and they're gonna be your national champions. So there
were two versions of the Tiger, uh, the Sunbeam Tiger
and the Mark one and Mark two that came off
from Ford years ago. They don't not in existence any longer,
but they were ran in the sixties. So there you go.
Maybe you can go find a classic Tiger right now,

(01:33:36):
Twitter at how about a Frescup Mike at Swollen Dome. Yet,
keep it right here. We are all over your national
championship post game show. There is less than a minute
left to go on the clock. It looks like Clemson
is not going to call their final time out. Can't
use him next year, I mean you can, Joe Burrow.

(01:33:57):
Looks like they're gonna gonna kneel on the football. I
think two more times and that's gonna be it and
L s U will be your national champions that have
the ball at the Clemson six yard line. They're gonna
win this. As we continue, Eddio, your national champion Clay
Helton still usc aad coach Dabo Sweeney and the winning

(01:34:19):
streak is over. Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, keep it right
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Oh wait wait, wait, hang on, hang on, hang on,
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(01:35:00):
put in the prompter? I do this over again? Blank
you Syracuse. Uh. The L s U Tigers are your
national champions, defeating Clemsoni at originin wins the national title.
Joe Burrow finishes with sixty touchdowns on the season, and

(01:35:24):
L s U puts a stamp on a season in
which they were clearly the best team in college football.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmen live from the
Geico Studios is Joe Burrow at OrderIn, Dabo Sweeney, Trevor
Lawrence as they meet the media, will bring their postgame

(01:35:46):
press conferences to you. L s U is the first
SEC team to finish the season fifteen and oh and
this is what it sounded like for the L s
U Tigers. The countdown to a championship, the nine game
win speak for Clemson will come to all. All of
Borrow goes to a knee, He'll hang on that football.
He's not gonna get that football up. And the celebration
is on here in New Orleans as L s U

(01:36:08):
will playing the Nashville Championship two over the Clemson Tigers.
You're racing a ten point lead in the first half.
They led by eleven at half. Clemson got it but
couldn't get it any closer than L. S U is
your national champion h Clemson Radio Network on the call there,

(01:36:30):
so you can there's the reason to not the over
Oh my goodness, see what that was Clemson's call. And
that's what it was like. L s U wins and
something we got into a few minutes ago. People had
a chance to take a deep breath and to continue
on with what we're talking about here. And this is
not you know, hey, Green Bay Packers should pay people
to shove up more to shovel Snow. Take Joe Burrow

(01:36:53):
tonight against Clemson. Five more touchdowns and when you think
of the totality and break down what he accomplished this year,
there is no quarterback in the history of college football
that has had a better season than Joe Burrow. And
this is not prisoner at the moment. This is just

(01:37:16):
going by sheer numbers, what they've produced and what the
end result for the team was. All right, you can do.
Colt Brennan had the old record for touchdowns in the
season shattered. And Colt Brennan played for Hawaii, where they
threw the ball was again right through. This is an

(01:37:37):
SEC schedule that Joe Burrow was able to throw sixty
touchdowns against. You want to say, well, some of those
teams stunk. Well, yeah, in college football, every good team
plays some games against teams that stink. I mean, nobody
plays eleven games a twelve game gauntlet. You play against
some teams that stink, then you play against some teams
that are really good. And it didn't matter because Joe

(01:37:58):
Burrow was rate against the teams at stunk. He was
great against the teams that were good. There's no other
way to cut this up. Nobody has thrown for sixty
touchdowns at sixty touchdowns this season. He's also ran for four.
Oh by the way, so make it sixty four touchdowns
for Joe Burrow over each talk about total touchdowns, but
sixty touchdowns, passing six interceptions ten to one touchdown interception

(01:38:23):
ratio against SEC defenses with future NFL stars on it.
Fifty five hundred yards passing short him a rushing touchdown
because he had one tonight five because then we get
the King Kong Bundy five five. But yeah, you mentioned
that the schedule and people go through Okay, go pick

(01:38:43):
any other great season in a player's history. Just for giggles,
I pulled up Lamar Jackson, he played at Louisville. I
don't need to expand extend that, do I know? We
look at Tebow and what he did as as a
member of the Gators, and the what they had to
do for Joe Burrow down the stretch. You're talking about
three wins over top five teams to close this thing out,

(01:39:06):
to finish a perfect season, to get the hat trick,
all of that as he gets ready to go and
accept the trophy, and they've got the mock ups of
the newspaper rolling around and everything. But it's just the
the idea of what he was able to accomplish while
completing seventy eight percent of his passes. All right, I'm
rounding up because it's a nice, nice number, seventy seven
point six going into tonight, and even after some early struggles,

(01:39:30):
even after the rib shot, just kept going, still calling
running plays. After taking that shot, right, he was he
was moving a little gingerly on that first possession, as
we chronicled earlier in the show, but clearly he was
shook it off. I don't know if he got to
the medical tentton and got a little something to help
help him get through the end of the game, whatever

(01:39:50):
the case was, but suddenly started throwing the ball down
field making plays. Think about the one that Chase let drop, right,
I mean that was another that would have had another
thirty two are touchdown pass on that drive. So you know,
for Joe Burrow, they I'm usually not a hype man.
I'm usually the one trying to look at where there's
there's cracks in the arsenal. We sure as hell didn't

(01:40:11):
see him in this college football season. Well, and I'll
take it a step further from Joe Burrow, is this
the most dominant season we've seen from a college football team?
Every now this becomes a better, a bigger conversation because
many teams have gone undefeated, blown teams out wire to
wire and and and done it in that case, and
now suddenly you're looking at Joe Burrow versus other quarterbacks.

(01:40:32):
It's well, you can't find what these guys have done
in a season. There there's nobody close to what Burrow
is able to accomplish. This is more of a conversation
because you've had teams twelve fourteen and oh, l s
you did it. They beat eighteen or seven teams that
were ranked in the top ten. Alright again SEC schedule
fifteen and oh not twelve and oh which is great? Leven?

(01:40:54):
Oh is great? Is great? This is fifteen and oh
all right? Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson.
That's pretty that's a pretty big murderers row of teams
that you beat over the course of the season. Now,
is Texas a top ten team? No, but they were
when they played. And this is still like I said

(01:41:16):
in SEC schedule, that is more of a conversation. But
this is right. I mean I I have to say
this has got to be in the top three or
top five all time right away. Very important. Now to
point out you can go listen to more of us
yelling at each other. Uh in podcast form are special
Teams podcast because we've gone through a couple of these teams.
Right you look at USC the Jugger not that was

(01:41:38):
We've talked about that Texas team and Vince Young. Sorry
to bring it up again, USC fans, but you gotta
wear it tonight. You're gonna keep wearing it. Uh No, no, no, no, no, No,
Vince Young's retired. It's okay. Uh, go on through. You've
got I mean, USC litters, a lot of those early
early notes. When you start going through a list of

(01:41:59):
great teams. You've got D five Nebraska, you got last
year's Clemsons team that went fifteen, and oh Mac Brown,
we talked about that squad, and just keep going on
down the Miami team, Um, all those years ago. Right
when you're looking at Miami, you go to that Washington squad.
I mean there's a lot of teams and just I mean,

(01:42:19):
unlike every other poll that gets done, I mean, I'm
talking to the last thirty years for all these squads
because you know, I have film that I can watch
to see how dominant they were. But the way they
navigated this schedule, particularly this final three four games, I mean,
that's really where it's at because they weren't just wins,
they were convincing wins. And this one started out slowly,

(01:42:41):
We're like, all right, what are we gonna get? And
then they still put upto Twitter at how about a Fresco?
Mike gets swollen done The Jason Smith Show with Mike Rman.
Yet they only played great football for really two and
a half quarters and they still won the game like this.
Coming up in nine seconds, more on your national champion
L s U Tigers, we'll see one of our most
trusted college football insiders has to say what he takes

(01:43:02):
away from the national Championship. Coming up at first, Ralph
Ivan has what's trending? All right, Well, thank you very much, gentlemen,
and yes, it is a final at the College Football Championship.
Number one L s U five win over number three Clemson,
the Tigers get the national championship and finished and undefeated season.
Joe Burrow thirty sixty three yards, five touchdowns passing, ran

(01:43:26):
for another fifty eight yards and a score. By the way, Yeah,
not a great performance from him. He only completed six
of his passes in this game, so a big step down. Yeah. Well,
you know, it is the number one defense in the country,
at least it was coming into this game, because I
don't know about now. Uh. Some finals in from the NBA.

(01:43:47):
Orlando one one twelve winner at Sacramento. The Magic of
won five of their last seven games. Damian Lillard thirty points,
nine assists, Portland Beach Charlotte one fifteen one twelve, Right
now at Staples it is the Lakers with a seventy
nine lead over the Cavaliers eight oh five to play
in the fourth quarter of that game. The Lakers, well,

(01:44:08):
they're getting plenty of points from all sorts of places.
Lebron James one, Dwight Howard has sixteen in this contest.
Earlier Boston, well, they had six players in double figures
that they beat Chicago one one on one. And this
reporting from Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports College Football that
Hawaii coach Nick Rolovich is going to the police. He

(01:44:30):
will be the new head coach at Washington State. When
we'll be back with Jason and Mike in just a moment.
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Nick Rolovich to Washington stay. I'm sure that's exactly what
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Ralph Irvan joining us now on the hotline. He's been

(01:45:12):
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Grant Puba, Pete fu Tech Pete. Thanks a bunch of stopping.
I'm man, what's going on, guys? How you been tonight? Dude,
We've been great. How about this. I'm gonna hit you

(01:45:32):
with some statements. You give me a greed disagree in
your analysis? How does that sound? I agree with everything
you say, but go ahead. Wow, that's awesome. Poison is
the greatest band in the world. Okay, Joe Burrow. Greatest season,
single season in college football history by a quarterback. It's
got to at least to be in the conversation. Uh yeah,
it's kind of hard to argue against it. You can

(01:45:53):
possibly say for the time Cam Newton, Uh I kind
of did. But yeah, you win the Heisman, you win
the National Old Championship. You're in the team photo for it,
so it's kind of hard to argue against him, at
least at the moment. All right, l s use single
season here, they beat six top ten teams SEC schedule
fifteen and oh record one of the top three most

(01:46:15):
dominant seasons you've seen in college football grest of all time.
It's going. Yeah, we have the CFN Historical Season formula,
which basically tracks you know, who would you beat, you know,
how many games do you win? How about how much point?
You know, the whole track. So basically it's a major
strength of schedule thing, uh, and exkews towards the current

(01:46:38):
teams because it's just so much harder now. Uh. The
funny part about all the CFB one fifty stuff that's
going on is where, yeah, all these things that all
these older guys did with cute but a lot of
times most of these teams Roger Stavak uh played like
one game you know where they everyone else was a
bunch of you know, coal gates and stuff. Now it's
just so much harder to run this type of gauntlet.

(01:47:00):
And of course the formula, Yeah, it's all to you
what they were able to do is the greatest seasonally
history of college football. What do you think of the
Skowski ejection for teting can't do it? You know, no
matter what you think about, when it comes through the
brains of these guys, uh, it's the rule. You can't
hit him like that. And I know the old schoolers

(01:47:21):
are like, well, you can't do it, lose the sport.
But you know what, that's how it is. You can't
do that. You can't hit these guys, and you know
most of them have figured it out. It has been
a positive for the sport. It's an existential thing that
football has had to figure out, and defensives have basically

(01:47:42):
been able to adjust towards it. Uns You figured out
Trevor Lawrence tonight. Any questions you have on him coming
on this game, none. You know, he's still to me,
he's still just the best talent. I know. Burrows great,
he had the game of games, but also he had
a little more from his steaving corps, a little more help.
Lawrence is a little off in time. Laurence is still

(01:48:05):
to be all end all number one. I mean, he's
got all the tools. The one thing I don't like
and the one part of speaking of brains. That dude
takes a lot of shots. And I know he's a
gamer and he likes to run and he does whatever
it takes. But that guy, he got knocked, he got
crushed in the house day game. He took at least
three big shots to the helmet today. And for being

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a you know, a nine figure caliber NFL quarterback, he's
sort of putting his body in some harm's away here. Yeah,
but Pete, he's gonna be playing for the Bengals. He's
got to get used to that. That's so Burro never
Lawrence two years from now. Put him in bubble rapp
for a year or so. He doesn't take any more
hits pretty much. But I mean, if you're him, I

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mean you have to come back. But it's one of
those I want to go back into the courts with him. No, No,
he's gonna do. Pete few text things. Don't play it
down next year, don't they come out. You know, had
a hang nail that don't cut intact. That was a problem.
I'm just gonna sit out and go to the draft.
Let me ask you this. How's Nick Bosa doing. Seems
to be working out pretty well for him and Yeah,

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he kind of took the year off after, you know,
getting injured in the side after a couple of games.
All right, I'm done with this whole college football thing.
Seems to be doing all right from so I had
no problem with it. It's Pete Futech on the line
with this college Football News dot Com, the website at
Pete Feutech on Twitter, the Jason Smith Show with Mike
harm In here in the getic Fox Sports Radio studios.
So as we come out of this game, the l

(01:49:31):
s U Fund and certainly I poked the bearer by
immediately pointing out to my USC and friends out here
about at Ozeron, Uh, the interim coach that nobody thought
would take them to the mountain and now he's king
of the football world. Yeah, it's a little tweet. You know,
sometimes these things work so that it also helps a
little bit that you get the right guy in the

(01:49:53):
right spot at the right time. I'm not gonna necessarily
say it was a guarantee that in order On does this, uh,
because he got the right assistance and helped to get
Joe Brady, helped to get all the guys right. So
but yeah, he's a national championship head coach. Kind of
hard to argue against it right now. And you know
everyone at US he loved, you know, at orager On,
he's just he's at Orageron, he's he's he's the ultimate character.

(01:50:16):
And that's just him, you know, that's that's he's not.
He doesn't even speak about the guy he is beyond this.
I know he's become a little bit a lot of
a caricature because of the voice and because the Tigers
and the whole act. But he's also probably college football
would have three to five best recruiters, and certainly through

(01:50:36):
the years he's been one of the best line coaches.
So the guy, you know, gets deserves credit for being
able to get the right guys in place. The right
assistant also helps that l s U pays their assistant
a lot of money. You're gonna say something else right there. Yeah,
well that's that goes to college. He went from America's

(01:50:58):
interim coach to national champ being ed origin. All right,
here's another thing I had for you, Pete. If Ohio
State had hung on to beat Clemson and they and
they should have, but they make the mistake because I
don't think Clemson was stopping them unless they made a mistake,
and obviously the final past the wrong route was run
interception the end zone. Does this game tonight go any
differently if it's Ohio State and L s U. I

(01:51:21):
kind of think. I know Clemson won that game. Ohio
State probably matches up a little bit better and they
still lose this. This L s U offense is just
a thing. I mean, it's not just this. There's a
reason why. Again are formulas. It's a number of all time.
They beat Obama at Obama. You know, they beat Florida,
they beat Auburn, they beat Georgia, they beat Oklahoma, they

(01:51:42):
beat Texas at Texas. I mean, this team is just
the ultimate confident, ultra confident team. Sometimes that works against you,
like if you're the Baltimore Ravens, and sometimes you just
kind of know you're good. This team knows it was
good and look got the job done. We're having some
fun with Pete Feutech college Football News dot com. Magic

(01:52:03):
Johnson is tweeting, so we're about fell out of our chair.
We'll get to Magic Johnson in a few minutes. Were here, No, no, no,
uh all right, so pizza. Obviously, the question is gonna happen.
When you look at your way too early, top twenty
five for next year and teams at the top. You're
gonna see Clemson bringing back Trevor Lawrence. You're gonna see

(01:52:24):
l s U. Where are they gonna be rentd preseason?
Going to be number one? Uh No, I think l
takes it. Here's the thing, though, it depends on who
they who's gonna be their starting quarterback. They're gonna lose
a ton of this talent from this team. It's not
do they get freagod. I think the perfect guy for
them is uh In the trans reporter portal is kJ

(01:52:45):
Costello from Stanford. That's there is your next guy. There's
your Joe Burrow clone, except not quite as uh mobile
and athletics. But there's the there's a guy who can
kind of step in and run this offense. But we
don't quite know. If you know who's the quarterback it's
gonna be, it's gonna be their backup out Brennan. You know,
they do lose the number one kick in the draft,

(01:53:05):
and it's not like Alabama's gonna go away. Auburn is
still gonna be good. Florida is gonna be good. George
is gonna be good. I still think Clemson's probably got
to be your number one because this is a young team.
Kind of lost in all this is that this is
a young, young Tiger team that had to rebuild a
little bit, and it helps that they got to play
to the A sec. They won their one big giant

(01:53:25):
game against Ohio State. They played well for you know,
the two and a half quarters tonight and right there
with this all timer of a team and played really well.
So coming back, this is just gonna be a loaded squad.
So you know, just still the names out there, you
know who are l s U, Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State.
Out of those four, you're probably got your top four

(01:53:46):
in some way. Obviously. Well that goes about saying, of course,
and now that the bettis dropped, Pete has to go
into the transfer pro portal as well to try to
figure out what's going on there. I would love to
can I trans reportal somewhere warmer than Chicago right now?
I'll take that fair point. You can follow on Twitter
at Pete few Tech, that is at Pete few Tech

(01:54:08):
and check out college football news dot com college football
News dot com. You are one stop shopping for everything
college football. What are you gonna have on their the
next few hours? L winning a natural champions twop? That's good. Okay, Hey,
are you gonna have stuff on the top college football
players of all time eventually? Yeahause, yeah, it kind of

(01:54:30):
thing was weird, but I digre Yeah because the Syracuse
guys number one and Tim Tebow is not on the list,
So there we go. Yeah, that's okay, thanks so much.
People talk to you so awesome, awesome stuff from Pete
fu Tech. Coming up, we have more on the national
championship game. We're on the the hunt for some players

(01:54:51):
that we normally get some stars to call in following
the national title game. You'll hear from the stars as
they talk to the media. But we really we have
to get to Magic Johnson's tweet following l s U
winning the National Championship and we're gonna We're gonna good
John Magic, welcome back money. We're gonna bring that to

(01:55:14):
you coming up next. Keep it right, I can barely speak.
Keep it right here. Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific, Joe
Burrow again, the snap the knee, and the Tigers of
L s U, a team of destiny and a team

(01:55:36):
for ages, celebrate on the field here tonight in New
Orleans inside the Superdome, capturing the national title and snapping
a twenty nine game win streak for Tabo Sweeney and
Clemson final horn sounds. It's in the books, Bikers win.
They are the national champions with a win tonight over
Clemson forty two. And there you have an L s U,

(01:56:03):
a radio network on the call, your National champions five
is your final score. They do everything they just said
on the call, and there's so much to break down.
You've been talking a lot about Joe Burrow tonight, Trevor Lawrence,
Dabba Sweeney at OrderIn. But I would be remiss if

(01:56:25):
we didn't bring you the latest tweet by Magic Johnson
after L s U wins the National champion This is
the best welcome back to Twitter, Magic Magic did tweet
out he hasn't tweeted in a couple of weeks. Magic Johnson,

(01:56:47):
I tweeted out L s you played an incredible game.
Congratulations the Tigers for winning the National championship. Nobody congratulates
people like Mike Magic Johnson. You want to talk about
finding your wins and spreading positivity. Nobody doesn't like Magic
john There's so many people who just waste cyberspace by
feeling I need to say congratulations to you. Now, you

(01:57:09):
don't need to. Why do you need to congratulate it? No,
you don't. You hate everything? But no, no, no, no
no no, I don't but no, but there's no need
for people on Facebook. Hey, congratulations to l s U.
Why why why are you? Why are you filling up
my Facebook feed with congratulations? Why? I don't care you congratulate.
I want to see you. No, I want to see
how many times I can post before you mutiny me.

(01:57:30):
You're not the president. I don't care. Yes, congrats, Yes, great,
say congratulate. You want to know what was said between
he and Vince Vaughan. By the way, when that was
kind of weird to see the President's got a big ovation.
He and Melania at the game, and then Vince Vaughan
gets ushered over to talk to him. All the beautiful
babies like the party. He probably said, a nice raincoat.
You know, I like Gretzky because you make his head bleed.

(01:57:52):
Watching make Gretzky's head bleed. You think they were getting
to set up to play a game and before NHL,
But this is the magic shops and tweet that he
decided I wasn't enough to just congratulate in or I
want to personally congratulate coach OrderIn for winning the National Championship.

(01:58:12):
I met him when he was coach at USC. I
met that tacker to the heart of us hits And
is this like all the guys that were a physician
or coaches or coordinators last year trying to get out
word that they had once met Sean McVeigh. Yeah, I

(01:58:32):
met at Orginin once. I met him when he was
at USC. That's the best. I like how he went
from he congratulated l s U. But then I now, oh,
I gotta personally congratulate in Origin because he probably remembered
that he met him. You know, he's probably hanging out
at home and Cookie said, you met him, want to
Oh I did meet I'll let me go back to Twitter,
let me go back. I want to personally because if
he doesn't personally congratulate a coach orgin or In, something's wrong.

(01:58:54):
I gotta personally congratulate him. Look, I haven't. I've only
met him once at a at an autograph signing in
law long time ago. Magic Johnson, that is, But you're
like the Magic Johnson of the show. But hasn't Magic
Did you throw that out there? Magic Johnson? Magic Johnson.
But my point being, look, we get to meet a
lot of interesting, cool people right across sports entertainment. I

(01:59:14):
in our years here when we celebrated our sixth anniversary,
Magic Johnson has met flipping everybody in the free world
and then some. So to point out that he met
at oseron once, it just seems really ont oft source.
I met him, congratulate you know why because I met him.
Oh that's great that he's met everybody. And to bring
up the fact that USC had him as head coach

(01:59:36):
and let him go, why they finished six and he
was an interim head coach in two thousand and thirteen,
he finished six and two and the players loved him.
But the last game of the season they lost to
u C L A and they got drubbed for the
second year in a row, and that's what did it.
They didn't want to bring him back after losing that
game to u C L. A. So that's why they

(01:59:58):
let him go in here he is now, you know,
seven years later, moving across the country and national champion.
They didn't want him. I mean, he took over a
team in the middle of the year. Hey six and
to wait, that's pretty good. Hang on a second. But
us he decided we want to go in a different direction,
and it's not head OrderIn. We want the disrespected him.
We want Clay Hilton instead, and Eddie o is out

(02:00:21):
because we have the talent here. We don't know what
kind of a head coach he is, but six and
two taken over. When you fire your head coach, that's
a pretty big deal. And because he lost the one
game to u c l A. He was that I
remember he was the toast of Los Angeles and ordering
when he took over. It was great. He was personable,
everybody got tar him talk with his accent. It's awesome.
He's great. But he lost to u c l A.

(02:00:41):
So he got wins that game and he stays, now
you got that little run of sark. But the other
thing that it has always been part of the narrative
was that he didn't look the part. He didn't fit
the suit like Johnny Bravo. So they wanted someone who
looked more like the coach that you would have at
USC to go and entertain Bosters, bring money in and

(02:01:02):
make everybody happy. As our buddy Petros Papadegus of a
M five seventy l a Sports USC running back Pack
twelve commentator and our friend, he uh he just put
where it, Hilton where it and of course wear it
to Pat Hayden Twitter at about a Fresca Mike ats

(02:01:22):
swollen Dome. We're continuing on our breakdown of the l
s U National champions Wait a year. We gotta say
about Joe Burrow next. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app Oh Oh Oh You

(02:01:43):
did It? Fox Sports Radio. A special National Championship edition
of The Slide Over Baby Hour. Jason Mike Carmon, You're
either celebrating or you need a little bit of consolation.
You're you are appreciating the aim that we saw in
the talent we saw and just in a normal, regular

(02:02:04):
celebratory move. It makes you want to be a high
achiever yourself or L s U is your national champion
for five the victory over Clemson. This was every bit
a dominant performance by L s U and Joe Burrow
when it looked like potentially just after halftime, things were

(02:02:26):
very touch and go for L s U. We'll get
to that in a couple of seconds, but first, because
we had this conversation with Pete feu Tech last hour.
Call me crazy, but I think Ohio State had enough.
They would have pulled the upset and beating L s U.
They would have come, They would have come to you.
Thank you, Frostburg. I I knew I could count. I

(02:02:48):
need to be the first guy. No, you're absolutely right.
He jumped at it. You see him leaning in his
chair Ohio State. As soon as I said, call me crazy.
Whenever he finishes, I'm gonna say it it. But he
was buzzing in like it was Jeopardy the whole time,
and you hadn't finished the entire question. I gotta come on,
come on, come on, be the buzzer. Ohio State had

(02:03:09):
more than enough defense. They would have come in his
underdogs and they would have been able to give Joe
Burrow more fits and slow down l s u S
offense more because Ohio States defense is better. It's a
better defense than Clemson's. And as much as Clemson athletically
was really good, still, Joe Burrow is able to find
that one on one coverage and find this This receivers

(02:03:31):
to the tune of five touchdowns tonight. And we'll get
to that part of it coming up in a couple
of minutes. But Ohio States defense, Look, I've told you
all year, I thought Ohio State was the best team.
They blew it against Clemson. They kicked too many field goals,
they were driving down for a game winning touchdown. All
that to do was not make a mistake. Clemson wasn't
going to stop them. And then you get a bad
route run in the end zone, interception is throwne Ohio

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State loses the game. That was the only way Ohio
State was gonna lose, as if they made a mistake,
because they were they were they had the hammer, they
were going up and down the field on Clemson. Clemson
had they were sucking win. There was nothing they could do.
I has to had all kinds of time. They were
gonna get in the end zone one play and they
blow it. But it's about matchups, right. Oklahoma was a

(02:04:17):
really good team, but boy, how good were they? They
lost by a hundred, But Ohio State would have been
a really difficult matchup for l s U, especially since
early in the game Ohouse State would have been able
to frustrate l s U and o Howse State would
have had enough offense to put points on the board.
It wouldn't have been one of those hey we win
seventeen fourteen games. It still would have been four type game,

(02:04:43):
seven time game. But Ohio State clearly has enough offense,
fields as good enough Dobbins was playing as well as
anybody in college football near the end of the season.
They would have scored. The game wouldn't have been too
big for them, and it would have been a bit
of a shock to see l s U struggle early.
I think o'house hs defense would have had enough And
I tweeted out when it happened at the time LSU

(02:05:04):
doing backflips over the fact that they get Clemson instead
of Ohio State because Ohio State had the defense. Well,
we looked at at Clemson all year long. I mean,
they didn't give up more than twenty points in a game.
The only real scare was that North Carolina game. Otherwise
they beat up on a schedule. I mean, look, Devil
Sweeting was going from the bottom of the deck trying
to figure out, how do I motivate these guys right there,

(02:05:25):
one twenty nine in a row. Nobody. Yeah, you guys
don't think we should be here. We got only think
like Steve Kerr with it with the Warriors. Oh, I
got problems. You've been to four finals in a row
and you won three. Really to the point you really
called attention to your schedule by doing so, right, so
wondering you played really well, you haven't given up a

(02:05:45):
lot of points, but can you stop anybody that's a
real heavyweight when you get down to it. And here
we saw once Burrow and company after they got through
those first couple of drives, a couple of punts. And
that's one thing to go point out from this game.
You saw at leat one and at last count, it
was fifteen sixteen punts between these teams, which which is

(02:06:06):
really funny when you've got sixty seven points up on
the board that you still ended up Yeah, sixteen punts
over the course of the game. That's amazing how fast
these possessions because a lot of a lot of quick
possessions and you go, but you know, be being the
the big tan honk. Then in watching Ohio State each
and every week, Yeah, that defensive front would have been

(02:06:29):
fun to see how they'd navigate that. And like Joe
Burrow was under dress for a good chunk of the
first half, Clemson just couldn't keep up. And that was
the big moment in the game. To now turn it
to to Joe Burrow The Jason Smith Show with Mike
harmon Is. Burrow gets drilled skull Ski at the end
of the first half on his final touchdown past and

(02:06:50):
he comes off the field looked like if I'm reading
his lips, he tell us team made stay away from me,
stay away from me. Because his left side got crunched.
It was like seeing a car acts when you see
the side of a car just just get just dent in.
I mean that was his left arm and his side.
Now whether it was his ribs or his arm. We
talked about it a lot and said is if this
is an injury, that this is the best Joe Burrow

(02:07:10):
we're gonna get. Because the first couple possessions of the
second half, We're not good. He didn't look like the
same quarterback, and he looked like he was really struggling.
If that was a Joe Burrow, you were gonna get.
Clemson was gonna win. But the flip side of it was,
if Burrow just needs a little bit of time to
mentally get past this, to physically get past this where
I'm able to throw the football and make the plays

(02:07:33):
I want to. If I just needed some time to
shake off that hint, then everything's gonna be fine. And
that turned out to be what it was for Joe Burrow.
But we're gonna play these couple of touchdowns here, and
this is what really stands out about him. Because you've
heard a lot of breakdowns why Joe Burrow is so good,
and I would tell you exactly why, because everything that
makes him great was on display in these two plays

(02:07:55):
that called forward belt Hime Burrow has it light pressure
comes from zone, what open dead moss touchdown L s
U back. Joe has it, looks launches towards the end zone.
Ad Justine Terris Marshall goes up, pulls it down touchdown.
L s ud touchdown pass had another to Joe Burrow

(02:08:17):
give Terris Marshall his first reception for a touchdown tonight
Tigers Radio Network on the called LSU Tigers Radio Network
on the call two of burrows five touchdown passes on
the night you also ran for one. Why is Joe
Burrow so good? Many people haven't seen a lot of
him this year. They got to see him tonight in
the National Championship game. You watched him in the semifinal

(02:08:40):
game against Oklahoma, and you probably watched him against Alabama. Right,
So those are the games you've seen Joe Burrow play.
Out of the fifteen games, the majority of of people
have seen maybe a third of college football fans a
third at most, but probably less because look at l
s U. Ay, all right, everybody six and oh everybody seven?

(02:09:00):
And okay, let's see the game against Alabama. Ah, Joe Burrow?
Is that good? What makes Joe Burrow good? And it
reminds me a lot of Eli Manning because this is
what Eli did so great over the course of his
career before his r and be trade him and age
caught up to him. He would always get the Giants
in the right formation. That was the number one thing
I always could tell about him was that he would

(02:09:20):
get to the line of scrimmage and have a play
and he would he would take to get there early
enough in the in the play clock where he could
move guys around, move protection around, move a receiver around,
and he would get ready to go and that and
that's amazing. But what he would also do is he
would find that receiver that had the one on one
coverage and he would put the ball in a place

(02:09:41):
where only that receiver could get it. He had a
great rapport with his wide receivers who knew when and
where to turn and look for the football. Eli wasn't
someone who was throwing in double coverage all the time.
You know, he didn't have a Brett Farve arm or
I could just throw the ball wherever I want to
and put the ball in this tight window. And I'm
just gonna out athletic size you. But when you you
can find that one on one coverage and put that

(02:10:02):
football where your guy is getting it or it's going
in complete, well that's going to increase the likelihood of
your winds and I mean wins on that play. It's
gonna be a twenty yard pass for a first down.
This is gonna be a thirty five yard touchdown. And
what That's what Joe Burrow does. That's what he's done
all season long. How many throws are he making a
double coverage tonight? Didn't make many, but he found the

(02:10:23):
one on one receivers and it didn't matter who it
was because he was able to spray the ball all
over the field and he puts the ball on the
spot where, even if there's tight enough coverage, the dB
is near the wide receiver, the ball is in a
spot where the wide receiver is gonna get it over
his outside shoulder in the end zone, in the middle
of the field, it's up and it's it's just ahead

(02:10:45):
of him where he can catch it and keep his
momentum going. He finds that one on one and he
puts the ball there, and that's a man and he's
almost like Eli with a stronger arm. Now Eli had
a pretty strong arm as far as most of his career,
but obviously, you know, you get older and it breaks
down a little bit. But this is Joe Burrow with
a stronger arm and a great touch, and that's what
has everybody salivating at the next level because the one

(02:11:05):
thing about college football stars and star quarterbacks is at
in college. You can succeed if your receivers. If you're
the better team and your receiver has five yards on
the dB, all you gotta do is throw the football
there and and it looks like you're having a great game,
like Trevor Lawrence last year against Alabarta, a lot of space.
The dbs couldn't stay with Clemson's wide receivers, so it
looked like Trevor Lawrence is having a legendary game when

(02:11:25):
it was Hey, these guys are open by five yards.
It's pretty easy. But Burrow doesn't have that. So when
you look in the NFL, NFL analysts and and scouts say, boy,
he can put that football. Not that he's throwing into
a tight window, but when there's one on one coverage,
he puts the ball in the right spot all the time. Well,
we talk all always in the NFL, and that's one
of the big criticism and discussion points coming out of

(02:11:48):
the Divisional round of quarterbacks who can and can't do that.
I can point to one one throw, you know, the
old he'd like to have that one back and the
linebacker obviously I think it was a linebacker might been
at cornerback. I was so surprised the ball was there.
He didn't catch it, like Burrow through one pass that
should have been picked and run the other way. But

(02:12:09):
the defender looked so surprised that the ball got onto
him that it fell harmlessly to the ground. Otherwise you're
talking about winning play after play. ELI the I think
the one criticism was he put too much air under
the ball, so you'd give the defender sometimes sometimes to
recover right when you're you're talking about some of those
guys he had, especially like a Mario Manningham downfield where

(02:12:32):
catch him in stride a double coverage and he put
it in the perfect But with the point being that
you probably could have utilized him better, I guess in
the regular season or the subsequent season whatever. But this
the idea is still being the same, is that you're
going and you trust that your receiver is gonna make

(02:12:52):
a play and you put it where he can. And
that was the thing with Burrow, even after he took
that big shot on the touchdown pass the Moss at
the end of the first first half, little tentative early third,
but then he's just so cool moving in the pocket.
He doesn't get anxious, he doesn't get happy feet like
it's it's a decision, all right, I'm gonna tuck and
I'm gonna run. It's not the mad scramble where the

(02:13:14):
balls hanging out like a loaf of bread and all
of that. It's it's he's just very calm and showing
it while smoking a cigar in the bowels of the
stadium right now. Cool on the field is able to
make those throws. That's why good luck in Cincinnati, Joe Burrow.
But that's why he's so good. Because he can do that.
You're gonna get a lot of one on one coverage
in the NFL. You find those guys. It's gonna be

(02:13:35):
a phenomenal career for him, whether it's Cincinnati or not.
We got more on Joe Burrowing here from Dabbo Sweeney
meeting the media. Clemson's first loss in their last eight
seven games, first loss since they lost the Syracuse couple
of years ago. We have that and more coming up,
Nut keep it right here. Still a lot to say,
a lot to talk about the National championship win by LSU,
including is l SU did they really just complete the

(02:13:59):
greatest college foot bull season? Of all time. It's all
coming up next on Fox. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
As we are on National Championship Overload. Tonight, L s

(02:14:20):
U wins the national title. They blow past Clemson. Joe
Burrow throws five touchdowns, including one to the man who
joins us now on the hotline, Light out, Terris Marshall, Junior, Terris, congratulations,
All right, how does it feel You're a national champion?
What's going through your head? Worked? Products and overcome? And Hi? Hey,

(02:14:51):
have you heard your the play by play call of
your touchdown? Do you want to hear it? Alright? Ahead,
play it map back? Joe has it looks launches towards
the end zone a Justine Terriss Marshall goes up, pulls
it down, touchdown. L s U yard touchdown pass, had

(02:15:11):
another to Joe Burrow. Give Terris Marshall his first reception
for a touchdown tonight. And now you can make that
your ringtone on your phone? Yeah, I probably will if
I can get it you're the man with the last one.
You're the record center, so forever you're linked in the
history books. That's that's that's Hey. When the game got

(02:15:36):
to halftime, the third touchdown by Burrow, yet he takes
a big hit comes off, it looked like he kind
of wasn't himself early in the third quarter. Did you
notice was he a little bit different whether it was
a ribber or an arm that because he got hit
big time on that touchdown pass? No? I mean, I
mean things having in the game on me. Everything can't
be perfect, So I didn't really. Uh, I already expected

(02:15:58):
him to bounce back like the person the player he is.
Uh So, I mean not just Terence Marshall Jr. Of
the victorious National champion l s U Tigers. Jordan guest
here on Fox Sports Radio. Terence, with the completion percentage right,
he's up at seventy. How much pressure do you feel
to make a play every time that ball comes your way? Person?

(02:16:21):
I mean, I was going to do this and that
is what I worked off. Was there a point in
the game that you guys knew you were gonna win? Uh?
From the beginning? Yeah, that's my guy. I like that answer.
What's the end of a pregame pep talk from aroeron, like, oh,
we gotta go out there and uh just play sixty

(02:16:43):
minutes to us and um, we can't win a game
in the first, second, third, or third quarter. So you
went out there and we draw always to the fourth quarter,
to the closing. Now you're from Louisiana. Doesn't mean extra
to you to win and stay home and and go
and win the National Championship. It was real especially, I
mean to just be able to come home and just

(02:17:04):
from the home crowd and uh well honest to like
anyone who would have played special alright, So tell me
what what's the big celebration like tonight for you? I
mean party? Well, you do have tomorrow off right, no classes,
as I saw you posting up on social media. No class?
Well night alright, so so Bourbon Street. So so what

(02:17:27):
is it? Tell me so I can look for you guys.
I don't even know where we're going. I don't know.
We're not gonna be in the hotel Tervis Marshall Jr.
A big game tonight, the big touchdown l s U
the National champions Thanks so much for stopping BYO. This
man appreciated, enjoy the night, thanks ter, great stuff there

(02:17:48):
from him. When did you know you're gonna beginning of
the game, Right in the beginning, we knew we're gonna
win at next? What do you go next? For us?
I was born for this. I made some great answers.
He's on it. Uh. The thing is is this team
and you heard him say, look we we as as
good as we've been this whole season. L s U
was gonna get a lot of run now and they should.

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Is this the greatest single season in college football history?
L s U plays a sec schedule, They go undefeated,
They win fifteen games. They win six games against teams
that were ranked in the top ten when they played them.
Now are these top ten teams at the end of
the year. But no, Still half of your regular season

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schedule are against teams in the top ten, nor you
know now you know me, Syracuse, I don't want to
play anybody in the top TENKS, that's gonna be a loss.
But now you have every other game you are you
are looking at, is this is a this is a
top ten team. I this is a conversation that is
a little bit more nuanced because we have had teams
have dominant individual seasons in which they won all their

(02:18:55):
games and they won a national championship and they won.
This is not to say that it's team boy. We
had a great national championship between Ohio State and Miami
in two thousand and two, which is on the Special
Teams podcast I Heart Radio, iTunes wherever you listen to podcasts.
But are they going down as one of the greatest
teams of all time? No, but they played an extremely
exciting national championship games. They go down as one a

(02:19:17):
memorable team. But best teams of all time our teams
that achieve and just stomp all over the opponents. And
you know, we got into this a little bit earlier
in the show. And this is why I like seasons
like L s U. I like seeing a team that
is so dominant from beginning to end, leaving no taint,
nothing undecided, noel, if this game had gone this way,

(02:19:38):
if this game had gone no, there were there were
no there were no games where you could say, for
l s U, well, if this had happened, if this
had not, No, that's not That's not how it goes.
L s U was a team that was dominant from
beginning to end. And it's really difficult to argue with
that because as much as we've seen other teams winning

(02:19:59):
big games, here's an SEC schedule, here's a playoff. Right now,
some of the other teams that you want to talk
about as being dominant that win eleven twelve games, you're
only playing one game in the playoff. You're not playing
two like l S you did. You're not beating the
teams in the playoffs by two and three touchdowns like
l S you did, and you're winning fifteen games and
not twelve. You can say, well, what's the difference, Well,

(02:20:21):
three differences. Go back in time where you had no
playoff at all, and you played a bowl game, and
depending on conference alignments and who had contracts with a bowl,
that's where you played. So you might not have even
been matched up with a heavyweight in that game. Right,

(02:20:41):
we go through conferences in the EBB and flow of
how well they play. But for this one, you're also
finishing off three top five teams when you played them
the ending game and the season. Right you take down Alabama.
You look at what the absolute dismantling of Oklahoma, and
it was always suspect of how how well they'd played defensively,
but you figured they'd at least score for a while

(02:21:02):
with them, didn't. LSU dominated them from pillar to post.
That was a game. If you didn't turn it off
at halftime, you were just enjoying watching Oklahoma lose. I
really want todowns well. I also didn't want to stick
around long enough for what I always fear. In those
kind of situations, something stupid happens and a guy gets
run run on a play or defensive lineman's frustrated and

(02:21:27):
takes it out on little Joe Burrow, who's now sitting
out a couch smoking cigars. By the way, and he's
being put up alongside the famous Len Dawson photo where
he's sitting there smoking a cigarette, I mean, feeling himself
off this historic year. But just pillar to post, they
just wrecked teams. I mean, there was no there's no

(02:21:48):
doubt about it. And oser on he's gonna go down
as coaching arguably the best team in history. The guy
nobody wanted every America's in ram head coaches, you dubbed
him so many years, agget America, and now he's a guy.
He's on top of the football world. Yes, he catches
the break that Joe Burrow becomes a grad transfer right

(02:22:09):
and fortune and some of these this recruiting, because that
was what it was always his specialty was recruiting and
line work. And now it all came together and what
was a perfect season for the l s U Tigers.
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And it's funny after the touchdown pass that he that
he threw, the fourth touchdown that he threw to Marshall,
he was pointing to his ring finger like I'm ready

(02:22:53):
for my ring. It's it. I'm ready. I'm ready for
the ring. Now I'm ready for the ring. That was it,
you know. He and again they're just showing a lot
of his highlights right now on ESPN on the different
UH sports talk shows we're watching on our TV's in
front of us, and they're showing Burrow highlights from the season,
and it's it's everything we told you think I'm lying to,
I'm not. Look at look at any highlight package of

(02:23:16):
Joe Burrow. When you're seeing his touchdowns, it's one on
one wide receivers, and he throws the ball in the
right spot at the right time, with the symbiosis with
the wide receiver that the wide receiver knows when to
look back for the ball, knows where the ball is.
And these are all good dbs, all right. These are
dbs of varying levels of talent, whether they are great,
whether they're in the middle, and he still knows when

(02:23:39):
to put the ball, when to put it, where to
put it, and it's perfect every time. Like I said,
you think I'm lying, look at the videos. You're going, Wow,
you're right, Wow, Jason, You're right. He doesn't throw into
double coverage, doesn't throw in a triple coverage, doesn't try
to force all into somebody. He is very calm. His
thought process, you can see, is very measured. Even when
he wants to run. This is not one of those
Oh my god, I'm pulling the ball down and I'm gone.

(02:24:00):
This is I'm pulling the ball down. I'm fine. It's
almost like Levy on Bell a little bit. He's very
patient when he's going to run in the pocket because
you see a lot of quarterbacks that run and can run. Well,
they see that opening, they tucked the ball under, they run.
But because the because they kind of telegraph I'm tucking
the ball and I'm running and I'm running right here,
the defender can get there and stop you after a

(02:24:21):
seven yard game. But what Burrow does is he holds
onto the ball and plays even runs and he holds.
He holds on the ball for an extra half second
to get the players going another three or four yards away,
and then he goes and there's even more space. Instead
of seven yards in the first down, it's fifteen or
eighteen yards and he's sliding out of bounds. That was
the run at the end of the first half that
he made to get out of bounds with fourteen seconds left.

(02:24:44):
The next plays a touchdown pass. I mean, everything he
does is under control. It's smart, it's accurate. There is
a reason why he is going to be the number
one overall pick in the draft. Good luck in Cincinnati.
But that's what that's what is on displaying. You will
watch this. Take this information that I'm telling you use
it yourself to tomorrow. Look at all the everything the
one on one plays, the beautiful deep all he throws.

(02:25:05):
That's Joe Burrow, timing, touch, accuracy, all of those things
that we always ascribe to the greats at the NFL level.
We apply him here collegiately right because he doesn't have
the guys running free. Not that Jefferson or Marshall Jr.
Didn't have their their space at times, or Moss for
that matter, because the past two Moss after to end

(02:25:25):
the first half and he just ran into the end zone.
Nobody collapsed around him. That was an easy pitch and
throw our pitch and catch right there. But we look
at over the course of this season all of those things.
When you get to seventy eight percent completion rate, I mean,
you've hit a whole other level. And you watch those
one on one balls with Jefferson or whoever it may be,

(02:25:46):
in this game or any other, it's it's all about
the work you put in. We do it with breeze.
We used to do it with with Peyton Man, and
we do it with Brady anticipation and throwing your guy open.
And that's just saw all night long. I'm gonna hear
from Dabo Sweeney coming up next in about ninety seconds.
What did he have to say following Clemson's first loss
since three But first, Ralph Irvan has what's trending? Alright? Well,

(02:26:10):
thank you very much, guys, and you have a big
story of course, comes from New Orleans where number one
L s U wins the national championship five over number
three Clemson. Joe Burrow a huge day, fourner sixty three
yards passing, he had five touchdown passes, he ran for
fifty eight yards, ran for an additional score as well.
Here's l s U coach at or dron I remember

(02:26:31):
growing up there, man, losing was an option? Who was
not an option? Man? You have to win. It went
and been in basketball. You have to win in the
back yard occasion. People took a lot of pride in
who they were. L s was being obviously watching Ronnie
Day and then play, so it's gonna be a lot
to him. I mean, I've been very probable it means
a lot to everybody. Stay in Louisiana. Everybody, but the

(02:26:51):
propoint Bill was like this tremendous night for everybody. I
would guess so as l s U wins the National Championship,
everything's gone final. In the NBA, the Lakers won their
eighth straight over the Cleveland Cavaliers. Portland gets thirty points
nine assist from Damian Lillard. They top Charlotte one fifteen
one twelve, Orlando Crowns. The Kings won fourteen one twelve

(02:27:12):
in Indiana seventies six, the Sixers one oh one, three
out of four wins the Pacers have taken in the
last week or so. Boston one one on one winners
over the Chicago Bulls, and more news from college football.
Houston quarterback Derrett King, who decided to healthily red shirt

(02:27:33):
this season well he has entered the transfer portal, did
so during the National Championship game. Arizona State extended the
contract of Herm Edwards, their head coach, and Nick Rolovich
will leave the Islands and head to the Police. He
leaves Hawaii to go to Washington State. No, we've back
to Jason and Mike in just a moment. But first
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it back to Jason Smith and Mike Carmen. Thanks mont

(02:28:18):
Trial Irvan live from the Get Go Studios. We'll have
more on Joe Burrow coming up in a few minutes.
Something big we can say about him that really can't
be disputed, and it's really insane. But how about Dabo Sweeney,
Clemson head coach who met the media a few minutes
ago following Clemson's defeat at the hands of l s
You what did he have to say after his quest
for another national championship was derailed by the other Tigers.

(02:28:42):
Let's listen to a couple minutes. Dabbo obviously disappointing U
night for us, not not the way we envisioned it going.
But let me just first say I'm incredibly thankful for
our team, Thankful for our team, Thankful for God's grace
for allowing me to be a part of such a

(02:29:03):
special group of people, coaches, staff and players, and just
just an unreal year, I mean incredible and just incredible year.
Two years games in a row. It's been a long
time since I've stood in front of a team, uh
with a loss, and but this team in particular just

(02:29:27):
really special. Uh coming into this year, you know, eighty
freshman and sophomores out of a d um to get
back to this point, I'm just super proud of. It's
incredibly difficult to even get here and super hard to
win it, that's for sure. Um, but I'm proud of
our guys. Incredible leadership and focus all year long. And uh,

(02:29:49):
you know, a lot of history made by this group,
and forever grateful, uh for these seniors, these seniors. What
an amazing group of young people. Just just dynamic young
p people that are unbelievably committed and um, uh you
know just Tanner, Muse and Pollard and Servinka and Anchorme. Uh,

(02:30:09):
you know, just Denzel and Cavon, I mean, Fibbs and
so many guys just tremendous, tremendous leadership, and so I'm
thankful and uh just blessed to have been a part
of it with these guys. And but tonight was was
all about l s U. Uh what an unbelievable game. Um,

(02:30:29):
you know, we we had an opportunity there in the
third quarter. I loved how we responded and got the
ball back with a three point lead, and and we
just couldn't quite put enough place together. Um you know,
it's probably the worst we've been on third down in
a long time. We had opportunities on third down, but
we just didn't just didn't convert um. And give them credit,

(02:30:49):
but I thought L s U played a beautiful game. Um.
I thought their quarterback was tremendous. Those receivers they made
some incredible place that were uh really well covered, uh
several of them, and um, you know, but but they
just made the play. And that's what you gotta do
to win these type of games. So you give them credit.
I thought they played a heck of a game and

(02:31:11):
deserve to win the game. They were They were definitely
the better team tonight for sure. So I'm really happy
for coach Oh. I think he's one of the good
guys in the business. And and you know, I'm happy
for it. I know what it's like to to be
in that situation and you pour a lot into it
and and uh uh you know, certainly no fun to

(02:31:35):
be in this seat, but um but I do uh
uh you know, just say congratulations to them and uh
beautiful football team that earned it. And uh we were
the first fifteen and old team last year and and
to see them uh do it and uh you know
they earned it as simple as that, So hats off
to them. And and I thought they played with tremendous

(02:31:57):
uh uh character, class and just will to win. And
that's what championship games are all about. And and just
too many big plays and not just not quite enough
from us when we had some opportunities to to give
herself a chance there in the fourth quarter. All right,
he's selling it. Look he does. L s U is great,
And look, Dabo Sweeney is one of the classier guys

(02:32:19):
in college football. And he's someone that when you lose,
when when he loses to you, he gives you credit
because you beat his team and you did. But still
remember him going into the Syracuse locker room after Syracuse
beat them two years ago, the biggest win in Syracuse
hadn't ten years, ruining their perfect season, and he went
into the Syracuse locker room to say how proud he

(02:32:41):
was of the team and how well they played. It's
easy to do that when you want to tell, boy,
you gave us a great fight, but we won. It's
quite another thing to do it after you lose. And
he still was able to do that, and he that's
the kind of guy he is now. The flip side
of it for Davos Sweeney for next year is he's
gonna come into the regular season probably right number one overall.
They are of the odd you know, the favorite in

(02:33:02):
the early odds for next year. No Joe Borrow for
l s U, Trevor Lawrence for Clemson. They'll come in
rank number one. But as far as Lawrence goes, as
great as he is and everything that he's done, the
thing that worries me about him a little bit in
Pete fu Tech joined us earlier college football inside and
he does take a lot of hits. He's got to

(02:33:23):
be smarter because he you know, he plays with such
a great attitude and a swagger, but he can't get
hit as much as he does. Is that he struggles
a little bit too much for me throwing the ball
in tight windows. And last year in the National Championship
when it became Trevor Lawrence is the greatest player ever.
He's going number one in the draft. His wide receivers

(02:33:43):
were wide open, Alabama couldn't cover them, and he had
a great game tonight. You had the L s U
D b s were on his wide receivers and after
starting out five out of ade and third down, I
think Clemson finished with one out of fourteen and Trevor
Lawrence overthrew six wide receivers on third down in one
on one coverage. I don't know about him putting the

(02:34:04):
ball in tight windows consistently. Now this is nitpicking a
little bit, but if you're talking about a guy who
everybody's gonna want to take number one overall a year
from now, and how good he is, that's the one
thing I want to see him be able to throw
the football in tight windows. I want to see a
little bit of a stronger arm, because he had that
one overthrow where it looked like he stepped up and
put everything into a throw that came out wobbly, went

(02:34:25):
over Jefferson's head, and I was like, what kind of
throw is that? So that's that's what I'd like to
see from him, because that still makes me a little
bit nervous, and that if the college level, if you
can't put the ball in tight windows, you sure as
how he's gonna do with the national football Well, he
took a couple of hits, started to sail right, He
had a receiver that he hung out to dry. He
was left and missed. Some time. We can talk about

(02:34:47):
whether it should have been a defensive defenseless receiver penalty
or not. That's for another time. But for Trevor Lawrence, yeah,
I mean, running the ball as frequently as he does,
he takes hits, right, he took one that was a
pretty big shot. When he fumbled the ball, that pretty
much put the final nail in the coffin on Clemson's
attempted come back. So yeah, struggling on third down, I mean,

(02:35:09):
I guess you could say that with Joe Burrow, look
at the third down not managed to put up yards
and six total touchdowns. But for Trevor Lawrence, ys for
next year, it'll be curious to see how he's used
how much the running style that he's had, whether that
gets pulled back a little bit and how much and
and Pete even brought him up. He brought up Nick Bosa,

(02:35:30):
is that you know, operations shutdown pretty early because you've
got a pro career to think about Twitter at how
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(02:35:52):
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(02:36:15):
National Championship over Clemson, could have the play that I
come in your way in a couple of minutes. But
with L s Use victory, tonight, Joe Burrow closes his
college career five more touchdowns through the air, one on

(02:36:36):
the ground, leads l s U to a national champions
You don't think he's gonna come back, and uh, there's
still some things I can do. I'm not, you know,
still finished business. Uh, Joe Burrow simply had the greatest
season of any quarterback in college football history. Now, look,

(02:37:00):
I'm only going to go back to the guys I said.
But you know now, I'm I'm almost fifty, so I
can go back a long time watching college. Red Grange
would kick your as. I mean yeah, I mean really
that at that ESPN list of people tonight, Red great, Yes,
Red Grange is great. How can you tell me Red?
Who saw Red Grange play? Who saw Jim Thorpe play?
I mean, it's like, come on, if those guys are
that high, Auto Graham got screwed Tim in the top

(02:37:24):
with the oh yeah yeah yeah. Well you said greatest
college season. Yeah, but I like how you played that.
I thought you said greatest college season. I mean, Tebow
has got to be in the top three. Two national
championships and undefeated regular season, incredible stats and a Heisman Trophy.

(02:37:46):
But I digress. I'm so excited Burrow finishes his career
and this season single greatest season by a quarterback in
college football history. Breaks the record for most career touchdowns
sixty touchdowns through the air, five on the ground. He
accounts for sixty five touchdowns. So immediately when I say, hey,

(02:38:08):
greatest season by a quarterback in college football history, what
are you doing? You're looking up? Okay, who's a quarterback
that put up ridiculous numbers? I could tell Jason is
full of it. Culte Brennan, uh Coulte Brennan was the
record that Joe Burrow broke Tonight had himself a fan.
He did, he did. But Joe Burrow again, sixty five touchdowns,

(02:38:29):
six interceptions. He threw for fifty six hundred yards. Completion
percentage in the high seventies. I want to say total,
it's gonna end up being around seventy seven. He beat
six top ten teams over the course of the regular
season in an SEC schedule. All right, this is not Hey,

(02:38:51):
you know I'm playing in the Mountain West or in
in a conference where all we do is throw the
football seventy times a game. And I put these numbers up. Now,
I was the football forty times a game. But everything
he was able to do. You cut this up no
matter how the level of competition. Did it again? Did
against SEC competition. Half the schedule, every other game was

(02:39:11):
a top ten team or in the end of the season,
the top twenty five team or top twenty team. And
he had the numbers, he had the stats, he's got
the wins of fifteen, he's got the national championship we
just watched. I mean, I know there's a prisoner of
the moment. We think, oh, is this great? Look? We
had the conversation of is l s U one of
the most dominant Did they have the most dominant season
of all time in college football? I think that's a

(02:39:33):
tougher question than this. I think Joe Burrow it's it's
easy because whoever you want to put second for one
season is like ten miles behind. Well, it's the fun
discussion and a great slide show, right, ad Vince Young's
year in sorry USC see people, you're really wearing it
tonight with ed Oh and everything else. But you can
go through and you can find some right. Uh. Tim

(02:39:54):
Tebow season when he was the leader to a national
title twice, to the Heisman finals, I mean there's a
there's a bunch of single seasons, but I mean this
one is just absurd, especially the way you close it
off against such top competition, and you could say, okay,
Oklahoma didn't belong. It's the old alright. The fourth team
always gets kicked around because there's some fatal flaw between

(02:40:18):
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s U Tigers Burrow again, the snap the knee, and
the Tigers of L. S U, a team of destiny

(02:41:02):
and a team for ages, celebrate on the field here
tonight in New Orleans inside the Superdome, capturing the national
title and snapping a twenty nine game win streak for
Tabo Sweeney and Clemson final horn sounds. It's in the books,
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(02:41:26):
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(02:41:47):
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