LeBron Vs. The Lakers

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. This is what you get.
This is absolutely what you get. Just what less than
forty eight hours away from the NBA trade deadline, rumors
swirling everywhere in Los Angeles, not really going down to
New Orleans, but the point being, the Lakers have been
the center of conversation, and boy, they were in the

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center of something tonight. Aaron Torres destroyed by the Indiana
Pacers final counts one thirty six to ninety four. The
Lakers lose hours after portally pulling out of the Anthony
Davis sweep stage. Well, the good news is at least
Lebron didn't play right. Well that's uh, that's uh incorrect.

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Thirty medals Lebron James, Oh, he played his team still
lost by forty two points. Well, you know this actually
might have been a good preview of what is to
come if they trade for Anthony Davis, because I think
they're gonna have to play two on five since they
offered every player on their roster, plus all the statues
outside of Staples Center, a couple of the banners that

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are hanging up, there's not gonna be much left if
Lebron actually pulls this off. And when I say Lebron,
I mean Lebron pulling this off. Do you think this
is a one man show of him telling Rich Paul
what he wants, Rich Paul doing what he wants, and
then everything trickling back to Lebron like this was a
family tree. If this was some sort of hierarchy, Lebron
would be the square at the top. Well, I think

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there's two squares. I think Rich Paul it's in his
best interest to get Anthony Davis to l a too.
It helps Lebron, It gives Lebron that second guy, It
gives Anthony Davis, I suppose, in theory, more marketability and
more marketing opportunities. I would say, I don't think Rich
Paul does anything without Lebron's approval. But I think that
they are very much in this together. For the Lakers

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to throw as many pieces as they have in to
that piece, it does tell me to the to the
simple fact of they want to get something done because
they want to do it for their team and they
want to do it for Lebron. If there was any
if there was any sort of thought process that went
on with their trade offers to the Pelicans, it probably

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wouldn't be including their second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth
best players like there would be We'll give you number
two and three, but we need to keep four. We'll
give you seven and nine, but we gotta keep eight.
That didn't seem the case. And to be able to
give them all of the the multiple offers, which was
something that that that was unique to me of of
hearing if you don't like option A, we're gonna give
you B, C and D. Like Listen, we we play

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fantasy sports. I've never once made a fantasy football trade
offering two different deals to someone else in the world.
You would do that in the NBA. Other than desperation.
I have no idea, Well, how much of this is
just the Pelicans pulling a bait and switch NonStop of Yeah, No,
I mean if you're throwing that guy, maybe we'll talk
or yeah, maybe add an extra first round pick and

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we'll consider it. And then it gets put on the
table and they say, you know what, maybe you could
throw in an extra pick or two and maybe had
another first than you know, first rounders. Why not Houston
was going to try to give that up for Jimmy Butler.
Why not you do the same throwing everyone? And that
was kind of today. But now we've gotten to a
point erin where we saw tonight what happened with the
Los Angeles Lakers, And you're gonna hear from Lebron Jameson

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just a little bit, because he had some very interesting
comments about I guess the also rants. But when you
look at a forty two point loss, this is a
direct reflection of what has gone on in the last
twenty four seventy two hours. The last week, Kyle Kuzma
was talking about and being asked questions, what is it

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like to be in the middle of trade conversations, to
have your name be the subject of trade rumors, And
he's answered it about as well as he could a
few days ago and saying saying, well, it means that
you wanted it means that you're playing well. But when
you see an output like this the night, when you're
looking at what could go wrong with the Los Angeles Lakers,

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this is worst case scenario of now you're a team
that can't even pull off a trade and now the
pieces that you had within that trade aren't competing for
your own team. Yeah, And I think, in my personal opinion,
this has been about what I just said. With the Pelicans,
it's been about not just getting a deal. I don't
think it's about getting a deal for the Pelicans. I think, frankly,

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it's about publicly embarrassing the Lakers. It's about saying, you
guys have been talking about our star player NonStop for
the last six months. So we're gonna drag you through
the mud. We're gonna make you look bad, We're gonna
put out all of this dirty launch because you know,
Magic Johnson is not the one that's putting out all
this information. You know, it's it's got to be the
Pelicans of just letting everyone know, Oh, oh you will

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you don't you want to believe what the Lakers just offered.
And I think we saw, to your point, Dan, the
ripple effects of that tonight where everyone on the court
except for Lebron is starting to realize, Hey, that guy
wearing the number twenty three Jersey doesn't want me here.
You're saying standing up to the bully of if if
the Lakers trying to be rich Paul trying to be
the bully of of trying to force their hand, that

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the Pelicans in a way are saying, all right, we're
gonna stand up to you and not do a deal,
even though even though it could be the best deal
that we could see from any other ab A team. Well,
and that is why I believe that, yes, this is
the Pelicans saying enough is enough. You guys have talked
about this guy non stop. We're not going to give
him to you, at least not without hearing everybody else's

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offers down the road. Because I would ask you, Dan,
I mean, we saw the reports of what was out
there as far as a Lonzo ball, Kyle Kuzma, brandon Ingram,
Josh Hard Zoo bots picks. They're not going to get
a better haul than that, whether it now or six
months from now when the Celtics can get involved. I
think this is to me, this is about embarrassing the

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Lakers making them look bad publicly. I do find it
interesting with what we've heard of Greg Popovich putting his
two cents in and this possible deal. Of course, he
was very vocal about the Paul Gasol deal so many
years ago, with the Lakers getting that advantage. And I
had thought at that time that after the Chris Paul
trade was veto that things had kind of evened out.

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But there are still some poor feelings around the league
because of the way that Gasol deal went down. And
how about last summer was Kawhi Leonard we I mean,
I was on air the day after Kauai requested a
trade demand, and you know my Saturday partner, Ernie Spaniard,
he's what, he goes a little over the top with
hyperboles sometimes and he already had the Lakers twenty nineteen

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championship t shirts printed up. Oh, Kauai is a Laker,
He's from l A. He wants to be a Laker.
You can't trade him anywhere other than the Lakers because
he's not gonna sign. And Gregg Popovich said, really, really,
what this guy's under contract with us. We're gonna do
what's best for the Spurs, not what's best for Kawhi Leonard.
I think the Pelicans are kind of using that same
playbook now. The Lakers lost by forty two points tonight

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and the effort of everyone even put Lebron in there.
He played thirty minutes, ended up with the eighteen points,
nine assistants, seven rebounds. The point being is that the
Laker supporting cast, well, Kyle Kuzma goes five or thirteen
from the field, has a very quiet night on the floor,
as does Brandon Ingram scores just twelve points, Kyle Kuzma
twelve as well. This is what Lebron told reporters after

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tonight's game about what you would say to his teammates
who maybe didn't bring it all tonight. Oh we don't
have this sound. I thought we had the social network sound. Well,
let me bring up this point, okay. Is Luke Walton
now the first Laker to go from l A to
to to move on from this? Because I felt with

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Lebron being out with his groin injury, with Lebron not
playing for that month and then coming back against the
Clippers last week and not playing against Golden State in
the in that time that he was out, I thought
It would have been the perfect opportunity for the Lakers
to move on from Luke Walton because it would have
allowed them to say, listen, we've fallen out of the
playoff picture. The guys that we really need the head

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coach to to nurture and too had those players grow,
that's on Luke walton shoulders. Luke Walton's not gonna coach Lebron,
but he can't coach the other eleving guys on the
floor if they aren't producing. It would say, look, this
is the progress that we haven't made from our thirty
five win season. It would have also taken some of
the pressure off of Lebron James by them making a

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move with their head coach when Lebron wasn't even playing.
It may not have been fair, but at least the
Lakers could have said, hey, Lebron, will do you this
solid now? After a forty two point loss, where do
you go? I mean, is this it for Luke Walton
and the Lakers? Because it could be an easy excuse
to be like, look, you didn't get these guys ready
to play against the team that doesn't have the star
player for the rest of the season, and this is

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the output you you bring time to move on. Yeah,
I hadn't really considered the possibility of moving him when
Lebron got hurt, because the logical kind of follow up
to that is that Lebron is in fact hurt, they
don't have them, So, you know, I I feel bad.
I sort of feel bad for Luke Walton, but I

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also remember being on air the night that Lebron agreed
to to sign with the Lakers, and it was a
ticking time bomb. Lebron has never gone along with any coach.
He never will get along with any coach, and unfortunately,
it does feel like Luke Walton is going to be
the fall guy in this case, because somebody's got to
take the fall, and it's you know, if the deal

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doesn't get done, whether it does or not, actually I
think it's gonna end up being Luke Lebron. James didn't
really take the fall tonight after the forty two point lost,
instead talked about his other teammates and maybe the things
that they are hearing a lot of a talks the
last couple of weeks, and that's never been in that
position before. So you have the excels guys, and um,
you know how they're dealing with it. I don't. I can't.

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You can't really ask me. I've never been a part
of that, but I've been a part of teammates, you know.
I know it has to be tough on a lot
of our guys, especially our young guys. Uh you know
right now, they've just never been a part of it,
and um, you know, and they're here every single day.
The worst thing that you can do right now to
be on social media, and I know all young guys
love social media, so um, you know that definitely can't help,

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can we? Like? I really like Lebron. He's the greatest
basketball player I've ever seen, but they're in trade talks
because you are the puppet master behind the scenes. What, Like,
this guy is so delusional and I'm not. He is
such a great player. It's almost like the Bill Belichick,
great coach, terrible GM thing. Lebron is such a great

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basketball player. But he's the reason that they're all on
the trade block because he orchestrated this thing from six
mon so or a year ago or however long it's been.
Anthony Davis has been wanting, you know, since he signed
with Chris with Rich Paul, it was an inevitability that
Anthony Davis was gonna ask for a trade to the Lakers.
Lebron and his team orchestrated, and now it's the guy's

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fault because oh they're in they're in trade. A stat
up date, Lebron his tennisis because he just passed the
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you could do all night ship night shifts. Yeah, yeah,
we may want to do all night shifts, but next
time bringing stinking genius. Yeah, Arnie Spanier, no no, no,
no, no no no, I gotta do it. Three hours a
week is more than enough with Arnie Spanning. Three hours
a week is more than I don't even think his
wife spends more than three hours a week with Arnie Spanier.

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Hey who is this guy? You know? I mean, hey,
come on, you know me a shot here. That's they're
just trying to hanging out. Yeah, I don't know who
it is. I don't know who it is. Who you
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covering the National Football League. Eric Edholm joins us here

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on Fox. Hey, Erica, a happy New Year. I guess
if you will for the NFL as now we can
have the parade in the background and look ahead the
next year. And I want to look ahead and to
the L. A. Rams, or for the L. A. Rams.
I put up a poll after the Super Bowl on
Sunday night on Twitter asking people if they felt that
the Rams would be back to the playoffs next season,

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or if they would have a Super Bowl hangover or
so said the Rams would be back in the playoffs
next season. How things have played out with the Rams?
Do you think this team is susceptible to a Super
Bowl hangover? Well, they've They've got a lot to figure out,
there's no question about it. I mean, depending on how
they kind of handle some of the personnel moves that

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are coming up, um, you know, and maybe some unexpected
decisions too. I mean, what if John Sullivan and Andrew
Whitworth both say, you know, we're done, We're retiring. Both
guys have at least explored the possibility or at least
sort of hinted it that it could be a possibility.
You know, you've got Roger Staffold this free agent you
gotta make decisions on to leave, and Sue, and you

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know you've already got Peter's and and and Cooks and
I mean, there's just a lot to figure out beyond
the short term. So Todd Gurley's contract will be up,
you know, I mean pretty you know, before we know it.
Jared Goffs too, So you know, the moves they make
today are gonna affect things down the road. Now. So
I think them losing that game is going to have

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this this crippling effect on the There's too much talent,
there's too much intellect. With Seawan McVeigh, he had a
bad game. There's still a good football team. That's that's
the bottom line. And even if the Eagles, you know,
look we're four and six, they still at the playoffs
and they won the darn thing last year, so I
think they're in a good shape for the short term.
Kind of in the same vein of looking ahead to

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next year. Who will be there? Who's not? So Rob Gronkowski. Right.
I was looking for an update today on his future
and I came across Rob Gronkowski ditched multiple shirts, caught
tide pods, and drank wine at the Patriots. Great. It
seems like he's in mid season mid offseason Gronk form.
What is the latest in terms of him actually being

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on the field next season. Yeah, I don't know if
the UNFU drug test them right away on that, but yeah, yeah,
I'm kidding. Uh, it's it's hard to say. He did
have kind of a stock answer that he was given to,
you know, to to Meeta after the game and the
NFL Network and everybody sort of saying, you know, hey,
I'm gonna enjoy the moment, I'm gonna be with my teammates,
then I'm gonna take I think his words were a

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week or two, so I don't think we'll wait very long.
I don't think we'll have to sit there and kind of,
you know, figure this thing out or mole for a while,
or they'll be this gray area where the Patriots may
look to trade. I'm learning that's a you know, the
hard feelings I think are mostly gone. Obviously, the tension
that was there last year. The body is obviously the
biggest concern, you know, the bulging disc in his back.

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It's it's it's never gonna get better. That's the problem,
at least as I've been told by you know, sports
medicine and in surgeons and people like that. Just that's
the thing that like, you know, you can come back
from torn ligaments, he can come back from broken bones,
but when we're talking about a bulging disc like that's
a different level of of of seriousness. So whether he's

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willing to kind of go through it, and you know,
he clearly looked a different version of Gronks and we
saw it points throughout the season, much better down the stretch.
But is he willing to go through the whole process.
I think the Patriots will be more willing to extend
an olive branch on how they treat him in the
off season. I think that they would give him more
of a Brady two thousand and eighteen like schedule if

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he wanted it is he gonna be there, gonna be
wanting to do that. I don't know. I still think
there's a real strong chance he could walk away. Eric
at Home of ro Football Weekly, joining us here on
Fox Sports Rady. You'll find him on Twitter at Eric
Underscore at Home. He's here on Torres. I'm Dan Buyer
in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tonight. More on
the Patriots. Is this recipe of them running the ball

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and running the ball like they have? Is this going
to be the common theme even if Gronk comes back
next year? Or I guess, is there an alternative for
them to look for more playmakers outside? Where do the
Patriots go as a team moving forward offensively? Yeah? A
little hard to sake obviously. If Grons there, you know,
it completely changes the complexion of the offense. If Josh Gordon,

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for instances, is in the picture, that's a whole different
scenario too. So right now, really difficult to say. I
don't you know, Sony Michelle, I think that you know,
the player we saw down the stretch, you know, more
reliable than football, wasn't fumbling, clearly had juice between the tackles,
looked more like the first round pick and less like

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the bus Patriots fans thought he was, you know through
the first quarter or so of the season. Um, you
can understand how that would be the case fed Rock
offensive line. You know, Brady getting older certainly can't make
all the throws anymore. Uh, that that would make a
lot of sense. But we've also known them to go
against the grain and surprise people, and they are that
kind of week to week offense. But big picture, yeah,

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I think it would be shocking to see them kind
of abandon that or at least not kind of embrace that,
uh and try to build on what they did. I mean,
open the game with five straight runs, all five different
run concepts. It's pretty strong message that you're pretty confident
in what you're doing when you're running the football in there,
I would say, kind of switching gears. NFL Draft, we
saw We've all seen the video of Kyler Murray with

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Dan Patrick last week, But to me, I kind of
thought it underlied a point that I think a lot
of people have forgotten is that, like I don't think
he's still officially made a decision on baseball, he just
kind of extended it. One did did that interview rub
anybody the wrong way? Did it open any eyes to
the fact that baseball is still very much a possibility
for this kid. It's like in presidential candidates they open

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the exploratory committee. Right, sure, they haven't exactly said they're
running for president, you kind of suspect they are. But yeah,
I mean he kept his options open, There's no question
about it. I mean, spring training I believe for him,
and he starts on he's sixteenth or the eighteen, so
it's you know, basically less than two weeks away here.
You know, the Oakland A's obviously have to know by

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that point. If the the NFL combine I believe starts
on the twenty fifth, sixth, seventh, whatever it is, So
sometime there between the eight teens and and the twenty
five forgive my my fudgi math here, but um, you
know that's that's kind of when we'll get an idea.
And I you know, I talked to one decision maker

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over the weekend about something completely different, and I said, hey,
did you happen to see the Kyler thing? And there
isn't a concern in NFL circles that Okay, we'd like
to know what's going on here. Obviously he's got to,
you know, respect his decision making ability. But I think
most teams are gonna feel a little gunshot about spending
a first round pick on a kid who you know,

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may at least have a fallback option there. Even if
it's not the Oakland A's, maybe it's some other baseball
rawity takes. So yeah, I think there's a little bit
of uneasiness there. But he can creak and quash that
and say, nope, I'm all in the baseball thing. Was
it was a great you know, security net or fallback option, whatever,
But I'm all in on this football thing. And he'll

(20:38):
ease a lot more mind by doing that if he
chooses to do that. Eric at Holmes joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. This is the Jason Smith Show
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So some Nick Foles news today, Eagles picking up his
option and then reports saying that Foles is gonna exercise
his buy out give two million dollars and now he'll

(20:59):
be a free agent. So where will Nick Foles be
playing in? Where's the best fit for the I guess
now formerly backup quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, great
question obviously. You know, even with this procedural matter, I mean,
the fact is, I think the Eagles still intend to
franchise him, trade him, get something back for him, you know,

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speed up the process on getting a third rounder. If
they can, they would get him in compensatory pick next year,
but they don't want to way. They want to try
to speed that up and get it this year possible,
and also control where he goes. Wouldn't that be nice
because it just so happens that there are two teams
in the division that theoretically could be looking for a quarterback.
You know, if the Giants, the Giants may say, okay, Elive,

(21:43):
probably our guy, but he's saying a chance to get
Nick Foles? Would they do it? Interesting? What about the
Redskins with Alex Smith's status up in the air. So
half the division, two thirds of the teams they play
against for six games a year, are looking for a quarterback.
That's why they would love to send them to, say Jacksonville.
I think that would be the spot that you know,

(22:04):
it makes some sense and and Pom coflin Is said
to be a fan. I've heard that maybe other people
in the building need a little more convincing, but they've
come out come around as they've watched Folds obviously performed
well in the in the postseason. So that just feels
like a good spot because you know, if you're the Jaguars,
you can roll the dice and say, all right, let's
find the best quarterback in the draft. Will picking number seven.
We can move up if we need to. You know,

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we've we've kind of we have a ton of draft
capitol already on a rafter. We give up a couple
of picks, no big deal, but it's a huge risk.
With Folds. You have something that you believe is pretty
good right now, and it's proven, and it's somebody who
could bind that locker room that Frank you know, frankly
looks a little fracture last year. That was maybe Full's

(22:47):
greatest strength this season was being the most beloved and
respected guy in a in a very you know, strong
locker room in Philly. So that buys you a lot,
and that could help maybe trains form things a little
bit in Jacksonville if that's the destination. The last one
for me, Todd Gurley, Sean McVeigh sticking to this. He's healthy,

(23:09):
he just didn't fit into the game plan. Todd Gurley
doesn't talk to the media today, do you can? Can
you make anything of what's actually going on between these
two right now? I called around a little and said, hey,
you know what happened? Did he just not want to
talk to it? Sounds like I think Gurley was just
sort of figuring, I'm gonna get the same four questions
about my knee. I'm gonna give him the same four

(23:30):
answers I've been given him. By the way, it right,
exactly right. Yeah, they get somebody, get some pr muscle
behind those guys. But um, but yeah, I mean, I
I don't think it's as big as a deal as
it felt. Maybe when it was announced, though, he's not
going to talk today. So yeah, I suspect that that
because he doesn't need surgery in the offseason, that there's

(23:51):
some grain of truth to what they're saying. But he
noticed all his runs were inside the tackles. He did
not get that stretch zone hand off. I mean maybe
once in the Doubts game that I'm forgetting. I don't know,
but you know, the last few games. Everything was up
the middle, and I don't think they trusted him in
past protection that seemed to be an issue. And when
the Saints are getting pressure, when New England was getting pressure,

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I think they felt like there were other ways to
combat that that didn't have Todd on the field. So
I think there was a game flow component. I think
there was a health issue. But again, is he is
he gonna see gonna be there in the big picture
down the road, I don't know. It's an interesting question.
But next year he should be back and ready to
go full strength. I would think there is no answer

(24:33):
to whatever went on that's gonna make this be okay.
There they all end poorly for the Rams, just like
Super Bowl fifty three. Did find him on Twitter at
Eric Underscore at Home and that's Eric with the c
NFL writer for Pro Football Weekly, Eric at Home. Thanks
so much. Eric will do it again soon. All right, gentlemen,
thank you appreciate. I don't want those Eric with a
kaze to be searching e are I see that's how

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it goes down. What was the story with you? Is
there a fake Dan Buyer? So there's something because I
remember remember I was telling you there's like a there's
like a college journalism student that's like Eront Torres underscore
something and he gets a lot of my hate tweets.
I feel bad for him, but I feel like there
was some similar story with that. There. I guess there's
two quick Twitter stories. Number one, there is a Dan

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Buyer fan page. Okay, that's that's I'm not behind it,
trust me, I'm not. That would not be the profile
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not Dan Buyer on Fox, and Dan Buyer was like
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There's many Aaron torres Is, there's many Dan and Buyers,

(26:00):
but there's only one Deb Carson, and she gives us
the latest of what is happening in the NBA and
in college shopes. Hello, Deb, thank you. Jen's how are
you tonight? You know, yeah, we're going along okay. Can't
be worse than what the Lakers and Lebron are dealing exactly.
One's trying to trade me, No, you are, You are
staying put both of you. On the other hand, the

(26:20):
Lakers dealing with all kinds of trade rumors. The Lakers
got spanked in Indianapolis tonight one six and ninety four,
and for Lebron James at forty two point loss is
the worst of his career. Coach Luke Walton was asked
if the blowout should be blamed on all the trade
rumors over the past couple of days. It affects everyone differently,
so there's just no way to answer that question. I've

(26:41):
seen and been part of teams where it's people can't
play because of it, and I've been on teams where
nobody cares and you go out and do your job anyway.
So there's not a specific answer to that. It's just, uh,
you know, it's it's it's different for everybody. Lakers made
only four of twenty one three pointers, and on the
other hand, Easter has hit nineteen threes, which is a

(27:02):
tie for a franchise record there. Celtics won at Cleveland
one oh three ninety six. Clippers beat the Hornets in
Charlotte one seventeen one fifteen. Nick's lost their fourteenth straight.
Pistons beat New York one oh five ninety two. Had
a couple of upsets in college hoops. Illinois top number
nine in Michigan State seventy nine seventy four el and
I with a win and St. John's upset tenth ranked

(27:24):
Marquette seventy to sixty nine. San Jose Sharks take on
the Winnipeg Jets in Tuesday's Discover Card key matchup. Sharks
and Jets are even at two all with four to
go in the third period. And the big NFL news
at the moment, the Eagles have exercised Nick foles twenty
million dollar option for twenty nineteen Folds, though has already
informed the team he will avoid the option. According to

(27:45):
Adam Schefter, Eagles, of course, could still choose to use
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thank you very much. Have How crazy is that there
there is a Pacers three point record mark that doesn't
include Reggie Miller, right, I mean yeah for Breck. I
mean that's good shooting. You know, there's no Little Depot anymore.
But impact even Chuck person you could have had that.

(28:27):
So kudos to the Pacers tonight who hit of their threes.
I guess that's what happens when you aren't guarded. Yeah,
when you're not guarded by a bunch of guys that
literally don't know what their livelihood is or where they'll
be playing or when they'll be playing. I just feel like,
I feel like this is a totally underrated part of
this story is the entire team except Lebron has basically

(28:51):
come to the conclusion that they are not wanted anymore.
Can you imagine going to a job where you know
you're not wanted, where you know the boss and the
star employee just don't want you there. I don't think
this is gonna get better unless they he you know, hey,
we've all been there. You know there's there's some days
are better than others. You know, like maybe maybe early
on in the broadcasting career, you know they didn't want

(29:12):
me in certain spots. You have that feeling as just
one of those things. I'll say this. I tweeted out
a picture that Michael Lee Yahoo Sports you've heard him
here on Fox Sports Radio, took a picture of Lebron
sitting on that Lakers bench tonight that has kind of
one to three chairs open between. I believe that's Brandon

(29:32):
Ingram at the end of the bench, all of the
rest of the Lakers players, Tyson Chandler, JaVale McGee, Kyle
Kuzma all sitting together. Heck Rondo's way on the other
side next to an assistant coach, but Lebron is sitting
by himself. And if there was a picture to show
how indicative things are with the Los Angeles Lakers, right now.
That picture is it? I retweeted it at Dan Buire

(29:52):
on Fox, but it is. It is a there. If
a picture could say a million words, this one said
it tonight the Lakers. That is the you show up
to the super Bowl party with your wife, don't make
eye contact three tables away. People ask those things. Oh,
everything's fine, everything now things are not fine. And here's
the thing too. Is what I find interesting. The young

(30:15):
guys kind of meshed with the older veteran guys. Right.
You would think that there would be that big divide
of the veterans that Lebron wanted with him JaVale McGee, Rondo,
uh Tyson, Chandler. But no, no, no, Lebron saying all
of them, you guys are all expendable, don't get too comfortable, rent,
don't buy You know. I get the sense because and

(30:35):
you put it. You put it all on Lebron at
the beginning of the show of this is this is
everything Lebron related. And I don't necessarily disagree with that,
but I look at this as Lebron also saying, all right,
I'm the guy here to bring in the superstars, like
I am the guy that that is. That is my duty.

(30:55):
You guys figure out a way to do it. But
you guys wouldn't have Anthony Davis wanting to come to
l A if it wasn't for me. And you guys
can figure out what you're gonna do three through twelve
on this roster, because that's what Rob Lincoln, Magic Johnson
are paid to do. But I am here because I
can bring in an Anthony Davis. And that's where I

(31:17):
get the sense that that's where this comes from Lebron,
where he's completely and and he's not completely wrong with
the fact of it is up to Rob Polinka and
Magic Johnson to fill out a Lakers team, but you're
really tying their hands by forcing them to throw everybody
into an offer for the to the New Orleans Publicans

(31:38):
for Anthony Davis. Well, I sort of disagree because Paul
George publicly said he would Well, I don't know if
he did or somebody on behalf of him said I
will only sign with the Lakers when I will be
a free agent. Didn't end up happening, but clearly there
are other people that are interested. But I was also
thinking about this. Remember when Lebron well, what what what

(31:58):
Paul Georgia signed with the Lakers of Lebron on wasn't there,
I don't think so, because I think it was more
of an Oklahoma City thing than an anti playing with
Lebron thing. But I see where you're going, and that's
so that's that's my question to it. And I've I've
said this, Listen, I don't care. I know, like Lebron
wanted to do his own thing, but Lebron could have
gone back to Cleveland for another year if Magic Johnson

(32:20):
wasn't with the Lakers. Lebron isn't going because he doesn't
have that trust. He doesn't have that like like he
may have been ninety nine point nine percent set on
l A, but Magic Johnson was really the reason in
my mind that he got Lebron to go and had
Kobe even said it. Kobe told Genie Buss, if you
really want the big Fish, you're gonna have to get
out Jim Bust and you're gonna have to get rid

(32:41):
of Mitch cup Check. So but now, what Lebron taking
the guys that that that he wanted in Magic and
Rob Polinka and putting them in a difficult spot, Well,
does he really you just mentioned respect for Magic or heat.
Magic is the reason that he's there. I think Magic
is the reason that he's there. I do agree. And
by the way, Magic did a really good job getting
some of those really bad contracts off the books. But

(33:03):
I don't know that. Like I I remember there being
this idea that because Magic was this living legend, because
he was Mr Laker, that Lebron and him we're going
to be teammates in this process, and it was gonna be, Oh,
we're signing the four year deal, We're in this for
the long haul. This looks an awful lot like Cleveland, Lebron,

(33:24):
as I said a minute ago, pulling the puppet strings,
and I'll be surprised. I am. So. I'm very surprised
at how quickly it appears publicly that Magic Johnson is
already acquiescing to Lebron. Lebron is already calling basically all
the shots, because I don't think any GM with any
common sense would have put everything on the table over

(33:47):
the last two or three weeks, two or three days,
excuse me, unless Lebron really gave him no children, and
if there was anything in the pattern of Lebron James
when he went to Miami, it was trying to get
Spolster fired early when they went to Cleveland. No offense,
but it was giving up Andrew Wiggins immensely to try
to bring in Kevin Love and in trying to flex
your muscle. They're not all identical situations, but they are

(34:08):
all both early on in the tenure to really put
your footprint down with that organization. And that's what we
are now seeing exactly. And this was supposed to be
so different. And I remember coming on air and completely
just disagreeing with that concept of oh well, it's magic
and it's the Lakers, and he signed a four year deal.
Lebron has never showed patients at any time in his career,

(34:29):
at least dating back to the middle of that first
Cleveland tenure. And you knew it was only gonna be
a matter of time before he was unhappy with the coach,
before he was unhappy with the young guys, and every
step of the way. I think you bring up such
an important point, Dan. I think everyone thinks of the
Miami years as these Kumbaya Everything was great. Deal one.
There was obviously tension in the locker room, Chris Bosh

(34:52):
all that stuff, But as you said, and no one
remembers this. Leron tried to get Airic Sposter fired right
away and pat Riley sitting no, no, no, no no, this
is not how this is going to operate here. That's
the only person whose entire crew that's really stood up
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(35:58):
for both Jason and Mike. Glad be with you on
this Tuesday. Interesting in Philadelphia, the Sixers tried to mount
a late charge but it all went for not rap.
There's top the Sixers. I'll tell you why that is
fitting in the Eastern Conference a bit later on in
the show, and Grizzlies, who are in the news today

(36:18):
Edge the Timberwolves and a follow a tenth of a
second left justin holiday makes a couple of free throws.
Grizzlies could be shipping Marcussoult to Charlotte's potential deal. I
was gonna say, Grizzlies, I think we're more likely to
see a move from them than maybe New Orleans. Yeah. Well,
the the Conley talks to the Utah Jazz have been there,
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(36:41):
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Associated Press every Monday comes out with their top and
college basketball and let's be honest, sometimes they get it right,

(37:03):
sometimes they get it wrong. That's why we go to
a guy who always gets it right. Once again, the
a T top ten in college basketball the top ten
of one Aeron torres Well. I appreciate you, Dan, who
now can use this because Fox you know as the
round ball rock, and use it during the college basketball season.

(37:24):
So it's fitting for us. How many people on our
rookie contract did we have to trade to get this music?
Eleven and six future first round draft picks. So uh,
first of all, I appreciate you let me do this
during NBA season. College troops will pick up steam here
in the next month as we head towards March. I'll
tell you what, Dan, I'm gonna do a top eleven

(37:45):
because I feel like there are eleven teams worthy. I
had to bump out Michigan State third straight loss today.
They lost their second best player, Josh Lankford, for this
season with an injury. I don't expect them to stay
where they were. Number eleven, a little respect to one
of the mid major schools, the Houston Cougars. They were
one shot away from the Sweet sixteen last year. Back

(38:06):
this year one and one. They are really good. They
defend Kelvin Sampson, great head coach, worthy of that spot.
Number ten. They're not up hot this high end the
polls yet, but they will be. The Villa Nova Wildcats.
They were awful early. They lost to Ferman, they lost
to pen They are red hot in the Big East.
You can watch them all the time on FS one.

(38:27):
By the way, I should add, they are playing their
best basketball, undefeated in Big East play. Number nine. I
will take the team that they beat in the twenty
teen title game, North Carolina. They've won six in a
row since they lost at to Louisville at home. They
avenged that loss this weekend. They're actually playing really well.
Number eight. I'm bumping them way up the Perdue boiler

(38:48):
Makers right now. They are playing the best basketball in
the Big Ten. They've won seven in a row. Half
game back of my number seven team, the Michigan In Wolverines.
Hail to the victors. They're a basketball school, sorry, Jim
Harball basketball school. Yes, uh they look they've struggled a

(39:09):
little bit on the road. They lost it. I whether
it's still the best team in the Big ten in
my opinion right now. Number six my Nevada Wolfpack. Eric
musselm in the unbelievable job he's done there, only one loss.
Still playing really well, going a little bit under the
radar because they're in the Mountain West. Number five Virginia.
Next game they host Duke this weekend. This is the
make or break game for Virginia because Duke at will

(39:33):
scored on them down the stretch in Cameron Indoor. I
don't think they can stop Duke, And if they don't
stop Duke, then I don't think they're any closer to
a national championship than they've ever been. Number four Kentucky
red Hot. People remember that Duke loss. They're eighteen and
two with the two losses coming by combined three points
since opening night. I don't think people realize how while
they're playing. Number three is Duke. We know all about them.

(39:55):
Number two the only team that has beaten them at
full strength this year gonzag uh and number one. They
are playing right in front of us and worthy of
that number one ranking. The Tennessee Balls. I don't even
know if they play football there anymore. They don't need
a football program. They got the best basketball team in
the country. You're a t top eleven for this week
in college basketball. Put you on the spot. What conference

(40:17):
is more likely to get two number one seeds, A C,
C or SEC. I think it's the A C C
because of perception. But I think if you're talking about
a true national title, I think we're gonna learn everything
we need to know about Virginia this week. Because my
buddies that are basketball nerds that always defend Virginia. I'm
not a Virginia apologist. They say, oh the defense, this,
that the other thing. Zion Williamson and R. J. Barrett

(40:40):
combined for sixty eight points sixty seven points the first
two first time they played this this season. I don't
believe that they can shut down the elite teams with
the elite players. Will find out this weekend they play Saturday.
Kansas is in trouble on the road at Kansas State
deb carsonal have more of that coming up at the
top of the hour. That could go a long way
in snapping Kansas streak of nine consecutive conference championships. Maybe

(41:04):
I'm exaggerating, but the point being is this is a
big one in Manhattan. If they lose this tonight, they're
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(41:49):
the Lakers lost by forty two to the Pacers on
Tuesday night, and before Lebron James said that his teammates
have to stop reading social media, and before Lebron James
sent a mile away from his team, Hits on the bench,
we would find out that the Lakers had withdrawn their consideration,
if you will, pulling out of the trade offers from
the New Orleans Publicans. Pulling out probably isn't the right word,

(42:11):
but they wanted to hear something back from New Orleans
to be like, Okay, what do you actually want for
Anthony Davis. That's the best way, Aaron, that I can
summarize what the Lakers did today, because after sending multiple offers,
many of which include their second through their sixth best
players plus draft picks, they still couldn't get an answer
of yes from the New Orleans Publicans. So there were

(42:32):
reports that the Lakers were withdrawing, pulling back, and waiting
for word from New Orleans on what exactly they wanted. Yeah,
in hindsight, it was a busy day for the Lakers. Huh,
you have all this trade stuff and then, oh, by
the way, they lost by what forty two tonight? As
you said, for people follow hit Dan on Twitter where
he has the all the pictures from tonight, just retweeted

(42:54):
Michael Lee from Yahoo Sports. That's what we did well.
It was just an ain day. And I think this
is very much the Pelicans saying you are not going
to push us around. I believe that the Pelicans are
trying to embarrass the Lakers because the Lakers, whether they'll
admit it or not, they have tampered. Lebron has talked

(43:16):
about all of this publicly. Do you think any of
this is the Pelicans kind of coming after Lebron in
a way, because let's never forget Lebron had that famous
audio from about a month ago when the Pelicans were
at Staples Center. Yeah, asked me about a d ask
me about Kyrie, asked me about Janice. And if you're

(43:36):
the Pelicans, I understand Anthony Davis wants to trade, but
why are you willing to help that guy? I I
look at it and and this may be too simple
and maybe stupid, but even if just why would you
trade him in the Western Conference? Sure? You know what
if you're if you are truly trying to compete, and
why would you strengthen another team? And now not only

(43:56):
do you have to figure out what the Warriors are doing,
now you have to end up going through uh, the
Lakers who have your star player, and and and and realistically,
and Dell Demps of the New Orleans Pelicans had no
reason to trade Anthony Davis before the trade request that
was submitted by the big Man. He had no reason

(44:17):
to considering that. At the time, you thought, maybe he
would sign the Supermax or with the extension with us
in the off season, and if he doesn't, then we've
got our answer and then we can end up maneuvering
some pieces. But now that you kind of got that answer,
you thought, Okay, well, now here's the opportunity for the
Lakers to do something with without the Celtics being involved.

(44:38):
And that's what I think that it's it's really all
about is you have to look at this and the
the Pelicans point of view when it comes to the Celtics.
Are the Celtics now willing to do whatever they can
if they fall short? Again, realize this, for as great
as that trade was with the Brooklyn Nets, they've got
the same amount of finals appear as the Brooklyn Nets.

(45:01):
For for if they don't make it in the finals
this year, there have been no Boston Celtics finals appearances.
And now you have to start to wonder, for as
great of a negotiator and a guy who maneuvers as
Danny Ainge, did what have you gotten for it? Well?
I I disagree no, But but the point being is,

(45:25):
if you're Boston and you're Danny Ainge, maybe on July one,
when the season is over, and maybe Golden States won
the title beating the Raptors or the Bucks or the Sixers,
maybe it is the Celtics. The point being is, at
what point do you cash in your chips? At what
point do you say we are in? And so if
I'm New Orleans, I'm waiting to see if Danny Ainge

(45:45):
is in that situation. Even if you don't know the
future of Kyrie Irving as a as a player, if
you're Boston, you're kind of saying, all right, we've heard
about all these trades, We've seen all this. You know,
we've we've got a star head coach. When is it
actually going to come to fruition? And maybe then you
get the pieces that you want. So I look at
it as that way of of the Pelicans, of not
just giving a stiff arm to Lebron and the Lakers,

(46:07):
but also saying, realistically, where are the Celtics and could
they offer a package just as good. Yeah, And I
think the Celtics are in kind of a weird position
where I agree with that part. I think what Danny
Ainge has done is borderline incredible. He built this thing
from the ground up. They win a championship with Kevin Garnett,
tear it completely down, and now they've built it back

(46:28):
up again. But I think to your point, Dan, at
a certain point, right two years ago, they were ahead
of schedule, that Isaiah Thomas team. Everyone thought it was
a rebuild all of a sudden, Oh my goodness, there
there they were the number one seed, all that stuff.
Last year you get Kyrie, you get Gordon Hayward, but
neither of them is healthy. In the playoffs, you still
make these cups. House at a certain point, you're out

(46:48):
of kind of cute rebuild mode and it's time to,
like you said, start delivering results, and whether it's with
this core, whether it's with Anthony Davis next season. At
a in point, you can't just say, oh, you know,
we have all these assets and we've made all these
solid draft picks. It's got a result in something beyond

(47:08):
losing in the Eastern Conference Finals. I just look at
the the Celtics as a team that right now, if
if I had to pick this, coming from a guy
who's followed the Milwaukee Bucks and knowing that the Bucks
are the best record of the NBA, the Celtics are
probably the team that's best positioned to get into an
NBA finals. And because of that and how it could
go wrong, I think that that's an opportunity for the Pelicans.

(47:31):
In addition, I'm a believer in Jason Tatum and and
if he is going to be a part of that trade,
if the Celtics were involved, if I'm New Orleans, I
would rather have Jayson Tatum then Kyle Kuzma of being
the number one guy in that deal. Well, And I
think that's the important element that Lakers fans refused to
and want to acknowledge in this. We don't know what

(47:53):
the Celtics are gonna offer because they can't make the
trade right, and so I think the Lakers fans are
adamant of your ever gonna get a better deal than this,
or you know this offer is not gonna be on well,
you don't know. I mean, in in four or five months,
the Knicks could have a package that includes Zion Williamson.
The Celtics could include Jason Tatum as part of a deal.

(48:16):
So I don't blame the Pelicans in this case, because well,
I will say that the Lakers offer very good. I
will say all things consider very good. You know, four
or five guys with NBA experience that that have proven
they can be NBA players, plus draft picks. We don't
know if it's the best deal because basically the Lakers
are are really negotiating against themselves at this point. And

(48:39):
so I never understood why the Pelicans would make this move.
I know that the Anthony Davis camp tried to get
cute with the will never play with Boston. Well you
go there, you make the finals next year with Kyrie,
We'll see if you're not willing to sign long term.
He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon here on Fox Sports Radio.

(48:59):
Aaron said earlier in the show, and I'll paraphrase this
that this just basically all starts with Lebron. So the
images that you see tonight, you see a team losing
by forty two, even though the team doesn't maybe give
the effort. It's the fact of the matter is is
that this all starts with one Lebron James and the
images that we see tonight, whether it be his people,
it still comes down from the King. Yeah. No, I mean,

(49:22):
and and I think that, Look, it's very clear Lebron's
best interests are also Rich Paul's best Rich Paul. Yeah,
I keep wanting to mix up Chris Paul and Rich Paul,
and I haven't done it yet, but I keep thinking
that I'm about too. So anyways, so Rich Paul obviously
is Lebron's agent. He's also Anthony Davis is agent. So
let's be honest, it's it's in both of their best

(49:44):
interests to get Anthony Davis to l A And so yes,
of course Lebron and Rich Paul are pulling the strings.
Of course, it wasn't a coincidence that a week before
the super Bowl, a week before the trade deadline, when
we're starting to shift, you know, the focus is starting
to get back towards basketball, that Anthony Davis makes the

(50:04):
trade request. And so yes, of course, Lebron and Rich
Paul are pulling the strings. And I do give the
Pelicans credit for saying you guys aren't calling the shots here.
We are standing up to the bully, if you will,
as the Pelicans are. I just think it's in their
best option. Listen. I'm not the greatest negotiator in the world. No,
not not at all. In fact, when my wife and

(50:26):
I went looking for houses to live in about a
year and a half ago, we would go and look
at different places. I was ready to go on every
single one. You know, you know why because it wasn't
an apartment like that. That's truly what it was like. Like,
we were ready to go, we were ready to expand
we were ready to move on. So every single house

(50:47):
that I saw that we went and we would look
at the ones where it had the stuff that we
wanted that you know, it had this feature at that feature.
But the point is I was ready for all of them,
all right, neighbor perfect, all right. Like I would be
the one on the on the show where they're deciding
on whether this house is the strength of the weaknesses.
I would be the one pointing out all the strengths,

(51:08):
and she was the one who would point out and say, yeah,
but it's doesn't have this or it doesn't yeah a
strong Now so there's a part of me that is
really really giving a tip of the cap to the
Pelicans because if the only offers that you are getting
are ones with the Lakers that include their top five guys,

(51:28):
and they really are I mean not now. Josh Hart's
been put in to the to the conversation as well
as him being traded, and if you were to look
at the Lakers on a roster wise of of ranking
the players after Lebron two through eight, they're giving you
really the top five guys. I mean, Zoobots is in,
Kyle Kuzma's in, Josh Hart is in the you know

(51:49):
at times Rondo was in like the guys are there.
And that's where I where I give the Pelicans kudos
and being able to say no to that, because as
someone who probably doesn't negotiate as well as he should,
it would be easy to be like, Okay, well that's
the best offer. We're not getting any other offers, let's
do it. So to your bullying point, I I get that,
and I agree with that, and I tipped the cap

(52:11):
to the Pelicans to do that, and then going a
bit further, as I said, why not see what else
is out there? And and and and see what the
Celtics have because guess what now when you are throwing
more of those teams in and people have said it along,
then have them compete with each other. Don't have the
Lakers just competing with themselves. Yeah, And I just to me,
this all comes down to the Dell Demps has to

(52:34):
do what's best for the Pelicans. And this was the
pushback that I got from a lot of Lakers fans
today was, well, how come it's tampering when, uh, when
Lebron talks about Anthony Davis. But it's not tampering when
Gregg Popovich is is talking to Dell Demps about uh,
you know, trade possibilities and this that the other thing.
Here's the bottom line. Dell Demps still has to do

(52:56):
what is best for the New Orleans Pelicans. He doesn't
have to do what's best for Anthony Davis. And to
your point, Dan, he certainly doesn't have to do what's
best for a Western Conference team that they will play
multiple times that in theory they'll be competing with for
a playoff spot. And so I never understood the idea
that Anthony Davis has to be moved before the trade
dead Lion never understood why it had to be the Lakers,

(53:18):
especially since we know the Celtics want to get into
this conversation and literally, by the by laws of the
NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement, they can't. Again, I know that
Anthony Davis's dad was very outspoken, but bat dad doesn't
always talk for son, and if he ends up in Boston,
I think there's a very good chance he ends up resigning.
No different than Paul George. He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Buyer.

(53:39):
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the Lakers have made a trade. No, not that one,
a different one, don't don't worry about it. Well, we'll
dive into that and so much more in just a second.
But first one, I'll let you know we're coming to
you live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios as

(54:42):
a good friend from NBA TV and basketball insiders, Eric
Pinkus joins us on this Tuesday night. Hey Erica, Happy Tuesday,
and and uh, I guess good luck. As we head
into the NBA trade deadline window of less than forty
eight hours, we expect a lot of craziness. But is
anything crazier than the Akers losing by forty two points
tonight to the Indiana Pacers. Well, I mean it only

(55:05):
counts as as a one in the lost column. You know,
other ones, just like all the other ones. Right, here's
the here's the problem. Right, these are not robots. They
are human beings. And you could say they're professionals and
they should perform to the best of their ability every night,
and and that's fine, but the reality is that they
are also human beings. They're people. They're typically young men.

(55:29):
A lot of these people in these in the situations,
the brandon Ingram's and the Kuzmas there in their low twenties,
and it is it is really hard to to just
shake off all of that. And you could talk about
it and you could say you can shake it off,
but the reality is is that everything you believed in
about the team that you were on, everything that you

(55:50):
felt they believed about you, is perceived in this moment
to be a lie because they're trading. And that's not
that's a simplification of it, but I think that's the
kind of feelings that they're dealing with. And it's really
hard to perform at an elite level. It doesn't matter
what team you played to play the worst team, play
the Knicks, and you're gonna get beat if you aren't
playing with your head in your heart and right now,

(56:11):
I don't know how the Lakers repair after all of this. Well,
and that's kind of my follow up here is Lebron
had some comments after the game, and I'm loosely paraphrasing,
but he said, I've never been through a trade situation myself,
but these guys they have to learn how to deal
with it and stay off social media. I feel like
when you are the impetus for them being on the
trade block, I feel like you should show a little

(56:31):
more sympathy. Am I out of my mind on this one? No?
I mean it's not. I mean it's not social media
media to read the Only Times. I mean that's it's
it's media, but it's not I mean you could read
it off. I mean maybe they don't, maybe they don't
get newspapers. So like basically is he's saying, just, you know,
be a hermit, bury your head and not be aware

(56:54):
that the team is clearly I mean, these are not
fake rumors. I know Eli Times. I worked there for
four years. I know Brad Turner who's been writing most
of the articles, and Tony again Gluey friends with them
colleagues and they're really good. And I also know that
The Only Times is not the kind of publication to
just throw out trade rounders. I mean, that was not
what we worked in. If there was something that was real,

(57:17):
that was something that could be really substantiated, absolutely run
with it. But it's not the sort of thing that
they're just throwing out. Oh I heard from somebody who
might know. You need to really know. And so I
think those what they're reporting, I believe has probably some
degree of accuracy. That's probably in the you're not gonna get,

(57:38):
but it's mostly accurate. By the way, that trade that
I mentioned Sphea Mhaia Luke of the Lakers going to
be going to the Pistons along with a second round
pick for Reggie Bullock. That would be the deal. So
Mackay Luke goes to Detroit, Bullock comes to the Lakers
as part of that deal. Eric Binkus, NBA TV and
Basketball Insiders joining us is tonight the type of effort

(57:59):
that you could say, all right, Luke Walton, thanks, see
you later. I I mean, in all reality, if you
want to scapeboat Luke Walton for this, whose fault is this?
That he who took the spirit of this team in
shredded and there was Luke Walton no, it was it
was Magic Johnson as the president, the one negotiating. I

(58:20):
don't know Rob Linka's involvement as the general manager. I
don't know who who's the one who's you know, the
quotes and the reports are all saying Magic Johnson. So
I'm gonna assume it's Magic. He's the top guy. He's
the one who's negotiating these trades. And it's all leaking
out for right or for wrong, uh in the media.
And so how do you bring Luke Walton? I'm eric,

(58:44):
I'm with you. I just don't get it. I'm with
you a million percent on this, But I just if
if you don't do something after this, I don't know,
like when you do, Like you mentioned the word skipgoat
and it's totally right. And I felt like if they
wanted to make a move with Walton, they could have
done it when Lebron was hurt, to take some of
the ease off Lebron. But if a move isn't made tonight,

(59:05):
when in the world are you gonna make a move.
They're trying to negotiate the deadline, right, They've got to
get through the next couple of days. We don't know
if they'll make any of the trades. We don't know
if Anthony Davis in that conversation, will you know, kick
back up? Probably won't. You just don't know until the deadline.
So what what's what's the point of firing him? Now?
I really like when they lose to the Knicks, or

(59:27):
they lose to the Calves or whatever. Those are the
times that you you say, Okay, this is the time
that you know we're gonna make a change here. But
even then, you're at the time you're playing without Lebron,
You're playing one of those games without Kuzma, you're playing
without Rondo, you're playing without now Alonzo ball. There's so
many things that have gone wrong for this team on
the injury front. Uh And then over the last couple

(59:48):
of days, you know, the hearts of the heart of
this team is is no longer beating because they realize
what they mean to the to the franchise. Their trade
assets and even if they were always trade assets, right,
they didn't know that. They didn't believe that. And you say,
well they should have known that. Well, you know, it's
there's a difference between me and you talking about on

(01:00:09):
the radio, everyone on social media, everyone tweeting about it.
I know fans love this stuff. This is how I
make my living is writing about this stuff. But the
players in it, it's a different thing. And this is
hard to overcome. We've heard so much about obviously the
Anthony Davis stuff and and the packages that are getting
thrown around, and they keep getting added to, and then

(01:00:30):
you know, the Pelicans basically keep pulling a bait and switch. Okay,
if you add a couple of draft picks, will be interesting.
Oh no, we need a couple more, we need another player.
Do you think this is really about the Pelicans trying
to get the best deal right now, or to kind
of shove it in the Lakers face for all the
kind of quote unquote tampering that they believe happened. I
don't know if basically, I feel like on some level

(01:00:52):
there was a good faith negotiation between Magic and be
it Del Damps or whoever is in charge over there,
whether it's making moments, who is uh an executive over there,
or Gail Benson, who's the owner. I would assume that
you haven't got no ownership, but let's say it's Dempson,
it's Magic. I think there was some level of good
faith negotiation. But I also think that at some point

(01:01:14):
along the way, the Pelicans decided that we're not going
to trade Anthony Davis, right, and so then they jacked
up that That's what you hear when when you hear
unreasonable trade demands, which is what this is, it means
that the team is not ready to make that move.
So it's kind of like when you know, someone knocks
on your door at your home and they're like, hey,
you know, we'll buy your house kind of thing. You know,
where they're there are people whose jobs that is to

(01:01:36):
kind of and and it's like, well, sure, if you
want to, you know, give me, you know, six million dollars.
You know, it's like sure, but you know, like realistically,
they're not shopping him. They're done. They're saying, we're not
going to trade him. We're gonna wait till summer. So, Lakers,
if you want to include everything that you ever had,
every pick that you could possibly trace, every player that

(01:01:56):
you got on your roster of any value, well then
sure we'll trade him. And it's just not reality. And
so now you're you're waiting until the summer, You're they
the Pelicans may have completely shot themselves on the foot here.
I think they have on some level. I don't think
we'll ever get an offer for Anthony Davis as good
as what the Lakers are offering him. I don't think
the Celtics are gonna give them that. I don't think

(01:02:17):
the Lakers are gonna come back with that. I think
they basically have blown it in their own way. Now
they may get something great, but with Rich Paul, agent
of Anthony Davison, Lebron James, he's gonna They're gonna scare
away every other team. The only team that's not gonna
get scared off is Boston. And then Boston. Who knows
what exactly happens uh with Kyrie Irving. Maybe he doesn't stay,

(01:02:40):
Maybe they don't offer Jayson Tatum, and you know, if
the Lakers move on to other things, maybe maybe the
Celtics don't need to offer that much. So it's a
very sticky situation. And the only thing the Lakers could
offer right now to New Orleans was closure and an
exactly they would know exactly what they're getting. They chose
the mystery box, and usually in the street box, it's

(01:03:01):
usually a scam and you don't get what you know
what you get. Everyone loves the mystery box, but you
know if you never ever a chance of getting something
concrete and said of the mystery box, take something concrete. Yeah. Watch,
let's make a deal for a morning and then you'll
see how many people get zonked. Eric Paint Yeah, Eric
Pinkas and basketball in Centers an NBA TV joining us.
I got a couple more than that. I want to

(01:03:22):
throw with you. This one of the teams that we
heard Anthony Davis would want to sign a long term
deal and two of them. I listen, I'm a Bucks fan.
It's just not realistic. Is that why the Bucks were
brought into it? Because yeah, they I mean it seems
like they threw out a bunch of teams that they
would go to, knowing full well that those teams wouldn't

(01:03:44):
be able to facilitate a trade for Anthony Davis. Well,
I mean it is similar thing happened where Jimmy Butler
didn't include the Lakers and trade negot when he had
a list. Lakers weren't on that list, but at the time,
the Lakers could not legally trade any anyway unless they
traded Lebron. There was no you to get Jimmy Butler
if he included the Lakers on that list because of
you know, recently signs. So there's a there's a sense

(01:04:08):
that goes into this, right, Like there's a belief that
Rich Paul Is is forcing Anthony Davis to the Lakers
and guess what he is trying to do that at
the same time, Uh, there are teams and their parties
that are upset with that notion, right, and they want
to say there's some level of collusion. And so what

(01:04:29):
you do is you see you throw out some other teams.
So it's not no, no, no, it's not that we're
not just trying to get me the Lakers. We're trying
to get into the Lakers or the Bucks or the
Knicks or whatever. Well, the Knicks just traded any any
I mean, the Knicks could get back into it, but realistically, no, uh,
they're probably not even going to trade the number one
pick if they get it, because even if you get
Anthony Davis, you probably stick with Zion Williamson do because

(01:04:51):
he's so young and you have like, you know, ten
years of that you probably stick with that. And plus
you only have a fourteen percent chance of winning the lottery. Anyway.
So anyway, there's so there. The Bucks are are not
going to trade Anti Tumkumbo, right, They're not gonna trade him.
They don't have any real future picks to offer, and
it's ridiculous. The Clippers are on the list. You can

(01:05:12):
make an argument that they have a package built around
Shay Guild just Alexander and Mantras Harrold and maybe Lou
Williams or whatever. But my argument there is, even if
you love Shade guilt just Alexander, if you look at
the roster of the Pelicans, they don't have any talent.
I'm not I mean there's no young kids. There's no
Josh Hard even on that team that look at the roster,
there's no first round pick that they can have the

(01:05:35):
rights for for a long time. And they they it's
they've traded them all or they cut them, or they
just just don't have them, you know, like their best
player right now is like Julia Okaffer or something like that.
It's it's a mess. And so if you're gonna go
trade for Shade Guild of Alexander or brandon ingram cal
Kuzma and loans of ball, I mean, go with the
numbers you need numbers. One guy is gonna help this team.

(01:05:56):
They need a lot of players. So I think they
shot themselves in the foot. And on the rich Paul's
idea that list was a shamp behind closed doors? How
frustrated our Magic Johnson Rob Polinka because I think here
in l A there was this belief of, oh, you know,
if we get Magic, everything's gonna come together. And now
we've seen Paul George resign and okay, see the Spurs

(01:06:17):
basically playing hardball. Similarly to how the Pelicans are not
really engaging the Lakers in Kawhi Leonard talks and now
this Pelican stuff. I mean, how frustrated is this front
office that it seems like people are really trying to
go out of their way to not help the Lakers. Yeah,
I mean there's some political parallels that you can make.
I don't want to get into political talk, but there's

(01:06:37):
a way that things work sometimes in business and then
maybe you get into politics, and politics things are different,
Like the rules are different. It's not a straightforward business transaction.
It becomes making sure that your constituents, that your colleagues,
that the people that you don't are your competitors, are
working with you. Right, If you negotiate a trade, you're

(01:06:58):
negotiating a trade with someone else who wants you to
fail badly, right, especially the Lakers because of the history
they had. Then you talk about Magic. Magic has had
a tremendous career on the court, but he also beat
a lot of teams, right, and there's a lot of
old hard feelings that are still surfaced in this league.

(01:07:18):
So Magic is coming in. Rob to Linka was an
agent who agents have typically enemies with all other agents.
They don't particularly get along with each other, don't play
nice with each other. And Rob Linka had a bad
dealing with the Pelicans about Eric Gordon when he was
a restricted free agent. So there's a lot of challenges.
There's a lot of negativity that the Lakers have to face,

(01:07:40):
that Magic has to face, that Rob has to face,
and Lebron for for what he's trying to do, for
trying to force something special happened. I don't regret Lebron
and Anthony Davis trying to take control of who they
are and their product and their market, but there's a
lot of resentment for that. So you take all of
that and yeah, I'm sure Magic is very frustrated right now.

(01:08:03):
But it's it's it's like business. You know, there's there's
ways of doing things that are very concrete, and then
there's politics, and this is more of a political thing,
it really is. And he's challenged Eric of Basketball in
Ciders an NBA TV joining us. I just want to
wrap up with this, who would you rather have Jayson
Tatum or Kyle kuzmunk. I mean, if you asked the

(01:08:27):
bulk of the NBA scouts around the league, you probably
have someone in the neighborhood of probably say Jayson Tatum,
and I think you probably have a percentage that would
say Kyle Kuzma. I think, by and large, overwhelmingly, Tatum
is viewed as the best prospect among all between the
two teams of the Celtics and the lakes Um. I

(01:08:48):
like Kusum a lot. I like Tatum a lot. We
know what Tatum can do in the playoffs, and I
think that's probably the difference is what he did in
the postseason. Even though they didn't get to the finals,
they were able to ride him as a primary score
on a playoff team, and I think that is what
stands out with Jason Tatum and the reason I ask
is if if the Pelicans end up getting Jason Tatum,
I think they save a lot of face with this um.

(01:09:11):
If they don't and you end up taking a lesser
deal from the Lakers, then it's than Dell Demps fittingly
gets a D or an f the negotiating fair enough, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
fair enough. There's some questions to whether he'll even be
running the show. Is a lot of drama in New Orleans.
The story is not complete yet. I'm very curious to

(01:09:31):
see how it ends. Dell Demps could be Dell dumped.
Eric pinkas Basketball as Hitters an NBA TV. Find him
on Twitter at Eric Pinkas Eric. It's a crazy night
and the next couple should be as well. We appreciate
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Mike Carmen on Fox Sports Radio. It's been a crazy
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drama as well. For the latest on that and so
much more, we go over to the anchor desk with
Deb Carson giving us the latest. Hello Deb, Hello, gentlemen.
Well we'll talk about that Lakers acquisition, not the one

(01:10:35):
most folks thought was gonna happen. Lakers did pull out
of the trade talks with the Pelicans for Anthony Davis,
according to l A Times because of New Orleans outrageous request.
But the Lakers are close to acquiring Reggie Bullock from
the Pistons for for Spi Mikhaylo. There you go. Had
a draft pick, yes, being a draft pick head to Detroit.

(01:10:56):
Reggie Bullock headed to l A. Not a an officially
done deal yet, but that is a close deal. Not
close tonight, I win for the Lakers. Lakers were ripped
by the Pacers one thirty six ninety four. In fact,
those forty two points the biggest losing margin Lebron James
has ever suffered in his career. While the Pacers hit
nineteen threes, which ties a franchise record, Pistons handed the

(01:11:18):
Knicks their fourteenth straight lost one oh five at ninety
two Still underway, It's Miami at Portland and the Heat
are up by ten fifty four forty four with three
fifty three to go in the second quarter. Another triple
double for Wressel Westbrook tonight as the Thunder took down
the Magic one thirty two one two had an upset
in the Big twelve tonight. Kansas State gets the monkey

(01:11:39):
off their back with a seventy four sixty seven win
over thirteenth ranked Kansas. Before tonight's win, the Wildcats had
lost eight straight contest to the Jayhawks. Kansas, by the way,
committed twenty three turnovers in the loss. Had two other
upsets in the top twenty five as well. Illinois top
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This is the Jason Smith Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Back to Dan Buyer and Aaron Torres, Guys, thank you
very much. Dev should be noted as Dev said. Kansas loss.
So that's four conference losses in the Big twelve. There
are two schools with two conference losses in the Big twelve.
Kansas State and deb's Baylor Bears. Yes, yes, the Baylor

(01:13:08):
train going. You know Baylor fun fact throws arounding your
next cocktail party returned. It was either the fewest minutes
or the fewest points of any team or any power
five team in college Basketball's here they are having an
unbelievable scene. They also lost their best player to injury.
So Baylor Bears pleasant pleasant supprise, not deb. Honestly, when

(01:13:31):
you fill out of brackets, yeah, do you say, okay,
I'm obligated to put Baylor in the sweet sixteen or
do you say I have to put them in the
final four? Like? Is there is there a threshold that
you go to to be like, Okay, let's not be
ridiculous here, but I am gonna have the Bears going
this well, depending on their seating and who else is
in their region. UM, I generally have over the last

(01:13:51):
few years, just because of the program's success, I've taken
them at least the sweet sixteen. But for instance, if
they've got a duke in the Elite eight or along
the way. Uh. And to be fair, you know, Baylor
has not done well in the first round over the
last couple of years. So UM, in fact, they didn't
start the season off. I'm trying to remember who they did.
They lose to like Prairie View A and M to
open the season this year. So immediately I was like,

(01:14:12):
I don't I don't know that it was Prairie View,
but somebody like that. But no, I, um, I always
support my bears, but I'm always I always am with
my brackets very serious. I take it very seriously. That's
the thing is, I I hedge my bets if I can,
because if your team is out and you lose, you
have no reason to watch the tournament. Like, at least

(01:14:33):
if your brackets busted, your team is still going, yes,
you know, but if your team gets out and at
least you have the brackets to follow, yeah yeah, and
I and I'd rather my team win than my bracket do. Well,
but I yeah, I never want to take a chance
on both happening. That's just awful. See. I have the
ultimate first world problem because I'm a Yukon fan, and
uh I haven't picked them the last two times that
they've won the national championship, and so you know that's

(01:14:56):
happened twice in the last eight years now. I actually
had a buddy at at FS one, there was a
big bracket deal out of like two thousand people the
year they won with Schabez Napier they were seven seed,
and maybe it wasn't two thousand, it was it was
a significant amount of people. And he picked Yukon because
he went to Yukon and ended up winning it, and
he won so much money and he actually drove to

(01:15:18):
Vegas the day before the National Championship and hedge some
of the bets so he would come out with a
little bit of money. But but yeah, the first world
problem of if you don't pick your team, they're probably
gonna win the champion. Sorry, I mean it's the truth.
It's tough. It's tough, but uh yeah, those are those
are good problems to have. If your team can go
and you lose your bracket device versa, it works out

(01:15:39):
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Not only that, but a stinker of an effort against
the Pacers tonight forty two points, Lebron's first forty point

(01:16:44):
loss of his career. Will dive into more after the
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In twenty nineteen, we had a soft launch of Googly Moogli,
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If you ever gone on Google and maybe search the
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you search for Jon bon Jovi, You're probably gonna get
Richie Sambora in the category of people also searched for,
maybe Bret Michaels poison. I would just I'm just guessing,
but people probably have a similar search pattern, and that's

(01:17:29):
what we're doing here. We have a name that has
been in the headlines, and what I want to know
is who people also searched for when they search for
this person. The game has played like this. Aaron Torres,
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the subject, and if you get one right, you stay
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two and down to one. The goal is to just
get ten. Today. There are twenty four names that people
also search for when they searched for Hatriots tight end
Rob Gronkowski. That is the subject. So when people searched
for Grock, who else did they search for? Aaron Torres?

(01:18:12):
I will take the layup and say Tom Brady. You
would have to think that people also search for the
guy who was throwing him those passes. Yes, Tom Brady
is on our list. That is our first name off
the board. Let's go to Ryan Burr singer. Who did
people also search for when they searched for Patriots ted
end Rob Gronkowski. Well, let's go with the coach, Bill Belichick.

(01:18:33):
Why wouldn't you search for Bill Belichick? Like? How old
is he? You know? Well, hey, sixty six? They only
told you sixty six million times over the last two weeks.
Show me Bill Belichick. There, he is on our list.
Two for two. Over to Alex tie shirts. All right, Dumn,
you struck out the first time we played Googly Move
with I was hoping I'm gonna make a better appearance

(01:18:53):
this time around, but I will say in defense, it
was a good answer. It was it was Baker Mayfield,
and I said Colin Cowher. Yes, people weren't also searching
for Colin when they were searching for Baker Mayfield. But
who could people be searching for if they were searching
for Rob gronkows I think I'm getting the vibe of this,
and I think I might get it wrong, but I'm
still gonna try it. Let's try Julian Edelman super Bowl

(01:19:14):
m v P. Let's see if it made our list
and it did. All right, big A stays around for
round two. You'll have to tell us what round two
feels like since you've never been there before. Excited, Let's
go over to Deb Carson to keep Googly Moogli going.
We got three names off the list. Who else did
people search for Deb when they searched for Rob Gronkowski.
I'm gonna go they might be thinking where he ranks

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on the all time list, So I'm gonna go Tony Gonzalez.
Tony Gonzalez, that is a good guest. Did Tony Gonzalez
make our list? I think she was on the right track.
I think she was on the right track. So Deb
slides out. It's down to three back to Aaron Torres. Alright,
much like Julian Edelman, I might get busted for performance

(01:19:58):
enhancing drugs here. I knew Gronk had a girlfriend. I
had to search her name. I did not search Rob Gronkowski.
I search Rob Gronkowski girlfriend. Her name is Camille Costic.
Is that your guess didn't make the last Okay, wait,

(01:20:18):
you have to wait for the sound effect just because
I give him the thumbs down and you can see it. Yeah, yeah,
Aaron Torres is out of the game. Who else did?
Who else did search for Rob Gronkowski? Who did people
search for Ryan bur Singer. It's up to you and
Alex for the rest of this game. Okay, that's that's
not good. I'm gonna get a little creative with this

(01:20:40):
because we're thinking Gronk might make the jump from football
to acting. So maybe another athlete, somebody who's very likable.
How about Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
I can smell what the Rock is cooking, But did
he make the list? Who will Alex tyser tight shirt

(01:21:01):
the big a cad he real off seven in a
row to win Googly Moogli here on Fox Sports Radio,
people search for when they search for Rob Gronkowski, Dan,
I don't like the weight of the world on my shoulders,
especially when it comes to Patriot names. Okay, but I
think I'm getting the vibe here. It seems like they're
searching a lot of the team players. So I'm gonna

(01:21:22):
go on a lark here and say, Sony Michelle, maybe
they're searching. That's a really good guess another teammate. Heck,
the first three have been Patriots. Show me Sony Michelle
man Man. I guess what my my my backup was
going short? Yeah, go ahead, Aaron Hernandez. Oh, how about

(01:21:44):
Josh McDaniels. That was my guest. Oh did not make
the list? What about John Cena? That was when I
was thinking of to Jo. You can't see him on
this list. Yes, there they were names like Travis Kelsey,
zach ERTs, other tight ends. You also had Odell Beckham, Jr.

(01:22:06):
Antonio Brown. Boo, this is an awful list. Boo. Jimmy
Garoppolo made the list. Yeah, oddly enough, Lebron James didn't
make the list, But Lebron's in the news. We'll tell
you why next year. On Fox. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Well, I

(01:22:27):
hope you're Tuesday was better than Lebron James Who's Tuesday?
And hopefully your days will get better than what Lebron
James had to deal with on Tuesday because it was
so bad he didn't even want to sit with his teammate,
just first forty point loss of his career. Lakers fall
to the Pacers one thirty six to ninety four on Tuesday, Yes,
by forty two points and Aaron Torres. It seems that

(01:22:49):
the trade talk finally catching up to the Lakers players,
who have been the center of attention of those trade
talks for the past week or so. Well, I was
gonna say On certainly didn't have a good day, but
of everyone on the Lakers, I think you could argue
you had the best day. Really, why why is that? Why?
Why would it have been a good day for Lebron? Well,
I don't think it was a good day, but I

(01:23:10):
think I think he knows he can come home to
his house tomorrow and not have to worry about is
this still gonna be my house when I when we
return from this road trip, and I think everybody else,
including the head coach, has to worry about that. I'll
tell you what I think. Del dem said a pretty
good Tuesday considering the effort that they put forth tonight.
Now he can say, see, this is why I didn't

(01:23:30):
want those guys like like their value just ended up
dropping by two points because of the effort that was
put forth in their loss to the Indiana Pacers. And
effort is a term that I'm going to use very loosely,
very lightly, because this team was just out of it
from the get go. Yeah, And I think sometimes we
had Eric Pinkisson last our former Lakers inside or l

(01:23:52):
a times all that I think he brought up a
very valid point that you and I discussed earlier. We
forget these are real human beings with real emotions. And
I think that's just one thing about sports in general.
We think that everyone's insulated or isolated from this stuff.
You would have believed d and you were down at
Super Bowl, you were talking to athletes last week, coaches whatever.

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But the number of coaches that I know in college hoops,
my bread and butter athletes, they do check social media,
they do see what people are saying about them. Now,
guys like you and I don't know how you are.
I try not to let what people say on social
media about me impact what I do. I frankly try
not to look to see what people are saying. But

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I can't. That's not everybody. And I think we saw
the real world effect of you put everybody out there
as if they're a puzzle piece, a chip. But these
are human beings with real human emotions, and we saw
the effect of that with the Lakers. There seems to
be a question as well of how you react. Now.
Brandon Ingram was at the free throw line Tuesday night
in Indianapolis, and the chance of Lebron's gonna trade you

(01:24:57):
ended up echoing throughout Banker's life field us. And I'll
tell you what. If it happened there, it's gonna happen,
you know, throughout And if if they aren't dealt by Thursday. Now,
the Lakers play the Celtics on Thursday night, so this
would be the last game if a deal was done
that those guys would be able to play in the
Lakers uniform since they don't play tomorrow night. In the
trade deadline is Thursday at three o'clock Eastern time. But

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if a deal doesn't get done, this also hangs over
a team for the next two months of the season,
And so there there's a there's a lot here that
you're trying to judge is this good? Is this bad?
And I look at tonight it is just an of
an option of you know, none of these guys showed
that they had any value. But I also don't know
if these guys meaning brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma and whoever

(01:25:41):
was put in the trade talks, really have a sense
of what they should do in that situation. If you
play too well, are you gonna be dealt? If you
don't play well enough, are you gonna be dealt? I
have a feeling that they have no idea what their
role is on this team right now. Well, and that's
what I was gonna ask you. What causes a bigger
mess going forward for the Lakers if they actually get
this deal done or if they don't. And it sounds insane,

(01:26:04):
you have Anthony Davis. If you get the deal done,
but you're then scrambling to just fill out your roster,
and I don't think the Lakers are any closer with
Anthony Davis and a bunch of guys they got to
call up from the G League to actually competing for
a championship than they are with these young guys. Then
on the flip side, these young guys come back and
it's exactly what you just said, Dan is they're all

(01:26:25):
sitting there saying, this guy hates me. I'm not playing
for this guy. He's just trying to get rid of me.
Like if I'm brandon Ingram or Kyle Kuzmer, Josh Hart,
why am I going hard for Lebron? Like like why
am I doing this to make him look good? Because
if we have success, he's gonna get all the credit.
And either way, he doesn't want me here anyway. You know.
And to your point when you let off the show

(01:26:46):
today of talking of of this is if this is
a family tree, or if this is a hierarchy. If
you want to look at a job situation, you've got workers,
you've got managers, and you've got supervisors, and you've got
vice presidents, and then you have the raise it in
on top, and Lebron is the guy in the top square.
He's the lone guy in that square And I think

(01:27:06):
what you've seen over these past couple of weeks our
situations of not only the players not knowing how to react.
But I don't think that Magic Johnson and Rob Polinka
knew how to react in a couple of reasons. First
of all, I don't know if they were fully prepared
that Anthony Davis was going to say he wants out
of New Orleans. And I think that what we have

(01:27:28):
seen is them throwing five proposals. I told you earlier
on the show. We play fantasy sports, and I'm not
comparing this to anything, but what I'm trying to do
is trying to get you to understand where we're coming from.
Have you ever gone in a fantasy trade to your
buddy and gave him three different options? Never? I never

(01:27:48):
have in playing any fantasy sports, So why the heck
you would do it in the NBA and saying pick
option A or E, whatever suits your you just feel
free to take that. That tells me that you didn't
understand the value, you didn't know what it takes. And
then when you just keep on adding onto it, it
doesn't seem like they were prepared at all. And finally
they got so deep they almost were saved. The Pelicans

(01:28:10):
almost saved the Lakers, but just not accepting the deal
because they were able to pull out and say, all right, well,
at least just tell us what you want. But it
doesn't seem like they were very prepared for Anthony Davis
saying that he wanted out and would become available. Well,
even if they were, I don't think they were prepared
for whatever mind games that the Pelicans are either intentionally

(01:28:31):
or unintentionally playing, because remember the early report was the
Pelicans weren't returning the Lakers calls, and then they returned
the calls, and then as you said, there's two, three,
four trade scenarios. Do you think Magic and Polinka in
some form or fashion are starting to feel the heat
because you don't get Paul George Kawhi Leonard is out there,
you can't get him. And at we we talked about

(01:28:54):
negotiating and all the variables that go into this both
in real life but then also in this real world trade.
And when you're negotiating, the negotiating ploy that makes you
look good isn't the one where you're just like take everything,
which is basically what the Lakers did over the last
couple of days. Take everything that we have. I don't
think that they are feeling the heat because realistically, in

(01:29:17):
the job that they have done, they've lived up to
whatever the expectations were bringing in Lebron with such a
key point. Now it's a team that's on the outside
looking in of the playoffs, which is something that I
think with Lebron back, they would hope would change. I
just think that they don't have a sense that they

(01:29:37):
know which direction they should go. And Eric Pinkus brought
up the point as well about if somebody wants to
buy your house for six d million dollars, you know, sure,
that's pretty easy to be like. Okay, by the way,
if anybody wants to buy my house for six d
million dollars, you can have everything in it except my wife. Okay,
that's you know, it is all yours. Feel that's all right,

(01:30:01):
That's all right. The the Schnauzer is gonna stay. No,
there there are no pets. The point being is, I
think the Lakers, all of us and just all of us, thought, wow,
Anthony Davis is available. I never thought that house would
go on the market, or I never thought that house
was going to be on the market at this time,
Can we do it before anybody else gets in on it,
specifically Boston and they're gonna come in with their offer.

(01:30:22):
That's that's right. I just that's why I get to
the point of just them being almost unprepared in trying
to facilitate a deal, because you're right, if you've traded
everybody else, how much of a threat is this team
with Lebron, Anthony Davis, Tyson Chandler and no one else.
They don't even have mcleck anymore, who wasn't even on

(01:30:44):
the roster for most of the season, and now he's
now he's a member of the Pistons. So you've got like,
those are the things that I just don't think that
you look through and I the first two months of
the year, wasn't it an audition to see who was
going to play with Lebron, who was going to be
able to play? And now all of Usden, you've got
this scenario where you were honestly thinking maybe in the
offseason you could trade for Anthony Davis or in you're

(01:31:06):
able to sign them. I just don't think that they
were ready for this this last weekend and a lot
of the sentiment you know, is it is it anti
Laker or anti Lebron? Like you see this is Are
the Pelicans really anti Lakers or they just anti Lebron
and you feel it's more anti Lebron. Right, Well, I
think it's interesting because I think it's both. Right, you

(01:31:27):
have this organization that throughout history, NBA fans and NBA
people that don't work for or play for the Lakers,
they feel like the Lakers catch every break. Now, you
brought up the very important point that, oh, the last
big trade they tried to get Chris Paul fell through,
or it didn't fall through, it was vetoed by the league.

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But I think you have the combination of the team
that everyone feels like they get what they want with
the player who thinks that he runs the league and
every other team is just a farm team for him
to pick off the players that he wants off those
specific teams. And so I do think there is to me,

(01:32:08):
it feels like in the basketball community outside of the Lakers,
it feels like there is this growing momentum to not
appease the Lakers, which of course in terms means also
appeasing Lebron. I just think that it feels like, we
heard the rumors that Gregg Popovich went to Dell Demps
or called Dell Demps and said, you don't have to
do this. You don't have to go, you don't have

(01:32:29):
to make the move with the Lakers. And I do
think that part of it is Rich Paul and the
term you use Rich Paul Lebron's agent, Anthony Davis's agent
and Lebron are trying to bully. They're trying to pull
out every maneuver they can to get Anthony Davis to
the Lakers. They asked for the trade Anthony Davis's dad.

(01:32:49):
First of all, we haven't heard from Anthony Davis's dad
since the day he left Kentucky. No one's heard from
him for five years. I gotta be honest, I didn't
realize that Anthony Davis was a junior, like because Anthony
Davis Sr. Came out like, I didn't realize that. Oh okay,
But to your point, yeah, he was present in the
Kentucky days. But I bring it up because no one
has heard anything from him in like six years, and

(01:33:12):
now all of a sudden, God forbidness, his son's been
playing for one of the most dysfunctional organizations for seven
or eight years, but now he's mad because he could
potentially go to the Celtics. So the point is is
that it feels like Rich Paul and Lebron pulled out
every stop that they could ultimately get Anthony Davis to
the Lakers. You have the trade proposed, you have the
trade demand, you have Anthony Davis's dad saying he's not

(01:33:35):
going to sign with the Celtics long term. And I
just think this is the league pushing back, saying just
because you're the Lakers, just because your Lebron doesn't mean
you get what you want. And if that was the
wish of Anthony Davis Sr. And everybody and Clutch Sports
and Lebron James and Anthony Davis, you wouldn't have to
give up to through six with your the Lakers, because
they're trying to set the market as there's only one
team and trying to give up as little as possible.

(01:33:58):
And that's what tells me that Lebron on and then
the Lakers front office aren't on the same page for
for for the simple fact of I don't think that
Lebron's people, I thought that it would be an end all.
You must get Anthony Davis. I think that they were like,
let's set up these scenarios. Let's talk about the Celtics

(01:34:19):
not being an option. I disagree. Really yeah. I think
they know the window to get him to the Lakers
is right now, and that's why they put out the
trade demand last week, right before Super Bowl week starts,
when you can get maximum attention on it. And I
just think this was this has all been orchestrated because
they know the window of basically exclusivity for the Lakers.

(01:34:43):
So then why would the Lakers have to offer seven
different deals because the Pelicans keep saying no, I think
this is all I think everybody Magic, Polinka, Rich Paul,
Almost I'm getting Rich Paul. I'm really struggling with that name.
I almost said Rob Parker the RPS. He's in on
it too. He's not in on anything Lebron. But um,

(01:35:05):
I think they're all in on it. But I don't
think that they thought they would get this much pushback
from the Pelicans. And like I said, it's just they
keep adding stuff and adding stuff to this trade proposal,
and every time they add stuff, the Pelicans keep pulling
that bait and switch of oh yeah, no, I mean,
can you throw in that guy too, how about that
second round pick, throw that one into. Well, they haven't

(01:35:27):
heard anything from the Pelicans, right, isn't I mean essentially
they've just gotten the Okay, finally tell us what you
want and then we'll we'll give it to you. Isn't
that That's that's like to the point that that we've
gotten from them. And that's where I just think that
they tried to corner the market so much so to
make it the only path of not including Boston, throwing

(01:35:49):
out Milwaukee and the Clippers possibilities when there were no
possibilities for those places of signing extensions. So as you're
going down these roads, then the only road is l
A and so you're sitting there and I just I
don't think it would be in the best interest. I
just don't think it would be the best interest of

(01:36:09):
the Lakers and Lebron to gut everything for Anthony Davis.
And that's where I just think that it's if they're
giving up that much. Not that Clutch Sports would say WHOA,
keep Josh Hart or keep Kyle Kuzmore, keep brandon Ingram.
That's not what I'm saying. I just don't think that
one action is connected with another because of how disorganize
this last week has seemed to be. But don't you

(01:36:31):
think Lebron and his people are delusional enough to think
you have Lebron, everything else will figure itself out. And oh,
by the way, you'll have Anthony Davis too. Like I
feel like Lebron is delusional enough where he's like, if
you give me Anthony Davis, I don't care who the
other three guys are. We're competing for a championship this year.
You may be right, You may be right that that

(01:36:54):
just could be his ego in saying that, But I
just I'm not saying that he values those guys in
from the comments that we heard him say tonight, and
I know we're running there, well, you know what we're
going to hear from Lebron James coming up next, because
this is Lebron James talking about his teammates. It's an
amazing comment, and only after losing by forty two points,
but also after what has transpired over the last six days.

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on Fox Now. Lebron James and the Lakers lost Tuesday
Night to the Pacers by forty two points. This in

(01:38:19):
the midst of a cloud of trade rumors and speculation
and trade offers. After the forty two point defeat, where
Lebron played thirty minutes in the game, he had this
to say about his teammates who have been involved in
those trade discussions. We have a lot of guys who's
been in trade talks the last couple of weeks, and
that's never been in that position before. So you have

(01:38:39):
to excelse guys, and um, you know how they're dealing
with it. I don't, I can't. You can't really ask me.
I've never been a part of that, but I've been
a part of teammates, you know. I know it has
to be tough on a lot of our guys, especially
our young guys. Uh, you know right now, they've just
never been a part of it. And um, you know
here every single day. The worst thing that you can
do right now to be social media. And I know

(01:39:01):
all young guys love social media, so um, you know
that definitely can't help. Okay, there's a lot there, there's
a lot in that. Do you want to go first
or or can I quick say something like no one
loves Instagram more than Lebron James Okay, no one like
he will videotape himself or excuse me, record himself because
videotaping is an old concept. He will record himself lip

(01:39:24):
sinking to a song that he doesn't know the words too.
That's how much he loves Instagram. He is always on
Instagram sending things out. So for the young guys who
are on social media that that comment is, it just
doesn't fit well for someone who loves the I g
more than anyone that I know. You and I were
filling in for Doug Gottlieb last Friday to Fridays ago

(01:39:46):
when he started singing something about bring me back something
something and tagging kyriew yes, yes, Rewind Rewind. I don't
know the song. I'm not him enough. I think someone
said it was by Fettie up cool. That's what I
was told. He's not the one that's from England that's
in getting comported, right. I know that's Savage. I know,

(01:40:08):
how about my and how about Yeah? This is that's
Savage forty two. You're talking to right here, right there,
you're twice the man here literally age, So so you
can dissect that what twenty second SoundBite from Lebron about seconds?
There is so much in there a guy who says
he's never been traded young guys. Uh that you know,

(01:40:30):
you got to talk to them. There's just so much
in that comment, but it's so striking coming from a
guy whose team just lost by forty two points. As
you've pointed out, is pretty much the reason why these
players are in this situation. Now, let me flip it
on you, because I I thought, you know, we've talked
about this so much from the Lakers perspective, from Lebron's perspective,

(01:40:52):
How about Anthony Davis. I heard our buddy Clay Travis
Morning show six AM Eastern talk about this this morning
when I when I was getting the car first thing,
and he said, if you're Anthony Davis, you're right in
the prime of your career. Do you really want to
go to a Lakers team with a Lebron James that's
thirty four right now. Let's be honest. The Lakers aren't

(01:41:13):
gonna win it this year, so he's gonna be thirty
five by next year. You don't know what pieces you're
gonna get, Like, do you really It's one thing if
you go there as a free agent and all the
pieces are there, but to give up everything that they're
gonna have to give up to get him. I'm not saying,

(01:41:34):
I just I don't know. I don't If you're Anthony Davis,
yes you do. You you go to the It's one
of those brands. It's I've used this, and I apologize
if I'm repeating it to you. But my wife wants
asked me, I'm a Seahawks fan. Okay, that's talked about
on this network. Yeah I didn't know that. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah,
ever since I was a kid, big time Seahawks fan.

(01:41:55):
My wife goes, if there was a team that you
could play for the NFL that wasn't the Seahawks, who
would it be? And and I thought about it and
I said to her, I said, you know what, I'd
want to be a Dallas Cowboy because there's something about
wearing like I don't like the Cowboys, but there's something
about wearing that star. And I think it's the same

(01:42:17):
way in the NBA. And I get why Guy signed
with the Yankees. There's something about playing for the Lakers
or playing for the Celtics that is different and that
it's unique. And so even though Lebron maybe later on
in his career, if you're Anthony Davis and another guy
that takes the torch from Lebron and continues in l A.
I am very that is very appealing to me, that

(01:42:40):
that is something that that I would want to be
a part of if I was Anthony Davis. So to
answer your question, which I think was, is it really
a great situation for Anthony Davis? I think that in
the end it is. It is a place that you
would want to go and you would want to be
and continue your basketball career. But isn't that the same
with the Celtics. Though Celtics have that name brand, you
can go there, you can play with Kyrie, who's younger,

(01:43:02):
who's more in your age range. And I don't even
look at it as the the who's around, and you know,
we could argue if Kyrie is going to be there
or not. I think that there's something to the Lakers
brand and and being a Laker that is different than
the other twenty nine teams. There's similarities to Boston, for sure,
but I do think that the Lakers are different. So

(01:43:24):
I can I can see why even though Lebron maybe
in his later years and he's still going to be there,
you go to l A. You sign that extension, you're
still there when he's not, and you can still end
up carrying that along. That's what would be appealing to me. No,
I agree, I don't disagree. I do think and we

(01:43:45):
mentioned him a minute ago, Rob Parker, who's on this
network and you know four to seven Pacific seven attend Eastern.
I do think there's something about what he always says,
which is, when you play with Lebron, you play in
his shadow, and it has worn down a lot of
other superstars. And this seems to be what Anthony Davis wants,

(01:44:07):
right And how much nudging is he getting from Rich
Paul only we know, but you come here. No matter
what happens, Lebron gets all the credit, and it's it's
always his teammate's fault. Tonight he put it all on
his teammates. It wasn't me. I mean, I've never lost
by forty two points. You could go back to Kevin Love,
to Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving wanted out now to the

(01:44:30):
Kyrie Irving point. Kyrie's play never slipped. There was just
like like Dwyane Wade's numbers took a took a a
dip scoring wise when Lebron came to Miami. But realistically,
we never looked at Dwyane Wade any less, we looked
at Chris bosh last, we looked at Kevin Love last
than than Kyrie Irving. But I always felt that the

(01:44:51):
number two to Lebron had it pretty good that that,
you know what, he kind of had his way. Kyrie
even had his opportunity to be the number one in
clear even with nobody else around. Now that he established
himself as a basketball player, he could go out and
try to be the number one guy. Anthony Davis has
been the number one in New Orleans ever since the
day that he was there, and I'm not even sure

(01:45:11):
if that's appealing to him. So hey, I think that
the situation would be okay and playing in the shadow
and and number two that when you are the number two,
it hasn't been bad. It's been bad for the number three's.
It's been bad for the Rodney Hoods who didn't transition
from Utah to Cleveland and become an effective player, something
that I thought was actually gonna work out. But that's
that's what I think. At least the twos work out

(01:45:33):
with Lebron and That's why I think it would work
out with Anthony Davis. Yeah, that makes sense. I don't disagree.
And by the way, I don't blame Anthony Davis for
wanting to come to l A. I just don't think
with Lebron's age, and with the fact that if you
come right now, not as a free agent, in if
you come right now at the trade deadline in the
middle of the twenty nineteen season, there's nobody else here

(01:45:54):
and you are so far away from building a roster
that's gonna be competitive in the landscape that I just
don't think that it's a slam dunk. And I do
think there's value to being a Laker. There's value to
playing with Lebron. I just don't know if it's under
these circumstances. He's Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is
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(01:46:37):
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We just have one game still underway in Miami with
the night lead at Portland just under ten minutes to
go in the fourth quarter. Earlier tonight, Pacers beat that
the Lakers one nine. That forty two point loss the

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worst of Lebron James career. Pacers mean, while hit nineteen
threes that Times of Franchise record one ninety to win
for the pace for the Pistons, I should say at
the nixt that's fourteen straight losses from New York. Clippers
beat the Hornets one seventeen, one fifteen. Celtics got a
win tonight in Cleveland one oh nine, six, Raptors top
the Sixers one nineteen, one oh seven, Grizzlies beat the

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te Wolves, and the Thunder top the Magic one thirty two,
one twenty two. Another triple double in that matchup for
Russell Westbrook. The news earlier today that the Wizards announced
John Wall needs surgery for a rupture to Chilles tendon.
He's gonna be sidelined at least twelve months. Lakers are
pulling out of their trade talks with the Pelicans for
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And coming up next hour, going to rank the top

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five story lines of the National Football League that will
take place this offseason. And one of the storylines that
did not make the last we'll call it honorable mention,
is the Todd Gurley saga with the Los Angeles Rams
the Super Bowl runner ups, if you want to put
a positive spin on it, but the Rams falling on
Sunday and Super Bowl fifty three to the Patriots, and
then today is the Rams were cleaning out their lockers

(01:49:29):
and moving on and having their final media availabilities. Todd
Gurley was a no show for that media session. And
some may say, it's not a big deal. What are
you just gonna say the same old things that you've
been saying all Super Bowl week. To me, it is
a big deal. It is a big deal to have
your star running back and one of your faces of
your franchise not show up, and it's just another step

(01:49:52):
in a saga that no matter what erin, when it ends,
it's not going to be good. There isn't one scenario
that plays with this Rams team that you could say, okay,
now it all makes sense, and that to me spells
trouble for the Rams because we don't know if Todd
Gurley's hurt, We don't know if there was friction in
the locker room. We don't know why he was splitting

(01:50:14):
carries with C. J. Anderson and why they did that.
Throughout the playoffs. A lot of what's going on is
just assumptions, and when you try to figure out those assumptions,
it just to me ends up being in a no
good situation for the Rams. Well, do you really think
though that if there was major just friction, that he's healthy,
that something happened between him and Sean McVeigh. You don't

(01:50:35):
think it would have gotten out because I I mean,
this stuff always gets out, and especially after you lose
the Super Bowl where you didn't play the guy, I
feel like some kind of anonymous story gets out and
it doesn't make McVeigh look good. I don't think that
there's I don't think it's friction. I will say that

(01:50:55):
I think that there is legitimate concerns about the knee.
And Bill Plaski of the l A Times so you
can hear here on Fox Sports Radio from time to time,
has said that when the Rams were leading up to
the Super Bowl, Todd Gurley was still banged up and
didn't seem to be walking one, which is different than

(01:51:16):
all the message that we have heard, the messages we
have heard from the last couple of weeks, and I
think it's more that then it's friction between Todd Gurley
and Sean McVeigh. I just I don't see that. What
I do think, though, Aaron, is I do think that
there in a whether it be a direct way or
a roundabout way, it was not addressed because it's there

(01:51:41):
to protect Jared Goff. I really think that there is.
We saw Jared Goff have a not good Super Bowl,
and we saw Jared Goff have a not good game
against the Chicago Bears in prime time at the end
of the regular season, and when you look at Golf's
numbers over the last part of the season, there were
questions about whether Jared Goff was going to be that

(01:52:02):
primetime player worthy of that first round pick status. And
there are a lot of points that you could point
to to say Jared Goff's not the same quarterback that
we or is the quarterback that we had hoped he
would be. I think that there's something wrong with Todd Gurley,
and I think that the Rams just didn't want people
to know that Todd Gurley was was injured or or

(01:52:23):
have it come out because you couldn't put everything on
the shoulders of Jared Goff. And so in a roundabout way,
I think this is all in a way to protect
Jared Goff and make sure that their quarterback was in
game plan four entirely, because if you're going for the
Rams and Todd Gurley is that's the guy I'm worried about.
It's a way to keep the pressure off Jared Goff.

(01:52:43):
That's where I think all of this ended up coming from.
And it's kind of being poured on Gurley when in
essence he was all to protect Jared Goff. Make any sense,
it makes sense. I do have a question for you.
Do you watch any of those Netflix true crime documentaries,
like the ones where it's go, you know, this guy
didn't really do it, but the d NA said making

(01:53:04):
a murderer. Yeah, so it's like making a murderer. So
that's not the best example, because there were a million
little things that popped up that make you say, there's
that this doesn't make sense, this doesn't add up. There's
one piece of data that doesn't support your theory, and
I want you to explain it. I'm curious. I'm not
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just I'm just cud Okay,

(01:53:25):
Divisional round Todd Gurley sixteen carries a hundred fifteen yards
seven yards per carry against the Cowboys. So if if
he was hurt, and I think most people think that
it stems back to the regular season, he never got
fully healthy before the playoffs, but he did rush for
over a hundred yards in a playoff game. Though, yes,

(01:53:47):
and I say that this Todd Gurley hadn't played for
weeks until that game, and all of a sudden, you
put him in game action and guess what, the next day,
maybe the knee isn't as good for the next week,
it is an as good. I think that there could
have been something that flared up from that shame where
Todd Gurley and if in the numbers, if you remember C. J.

(01:54:07):
Anderson had twenty three carries that game compared to just
sixteen of Todd Gurley, and I get I actually felt
that the Rams were saving Gurley for this postseason run.
It's why you didn't see him at the end of
the regular season is they wanted to make sure that
that he was good to go. And last year he
was in the m v P talk and he helped
them get to the playoffs, and so there was there
was a lot of usage of Todd Gurley in the season.

(01:54:30):
I thought it was going to be different, But I
think that something could have happened from that point. But
in no way could you say, especially when you're missing
Cooper Cup that Todd Gurley is not for us, that
Todd Gurley is not the guy. No offense to c. J. Anderson,
who was a great back, but c J. Anderson isn't
the dual threat, the breakaway everything that Todd Gurley is

(01:54:50):
as he was an m v P Canada a year ago.
That's the stuff that you have the game plan for.
That's why you spend the extra time in the film
room and you're looking at different stuff. If you gonna
have Todd Gurley, you know what, I'm worried about making
sure that c. J. Anderson doesn't run us over straight
ahead and wondering if we can pick off Jared Goffer,
make him throw off his back foot to throw late,
which he did a couple of times in the Super Bowl.

(01:55:11):
That all makes sense. So then I have another follow
All right, okay, alright past the first one. You said
that there's no way that this ends well for the Rams.
So what if it was just that Todd Gurley wasn't
and they didn't want to make it public. So you're
just saying there's concerns with the league now at that
point that that you're not reporting an injury, and heck,
we would get on the New England Patriots for doing so.
In the New England Patriots now just put everybody on

(01:55:33):
the injury list just to just to be jerks about it,
to be like, all right, you're gonna say we aren't
saying guys are injured. Well, now everybody's injured. Tom Brady's
questionable every week with whatever. That's where it doesn't end. Well,
is that all of a sudden, now you're lying about
injury reports and I've got the NFL coming down on you. Okay, yeah,
that no, that makes sense because I do think if
it's a situation where Todd Gurley is putting on a

(01:55:56):
good face and pretending as though he's at a percent
and he's not, Like I just think he's being a
good team player. I don't think that results in any
kind of friction between him and Sean McVeigh or Sean
McVeigh and the guys in the locker room. Here's the
bad thing about him not showing up today. It's now
no longer. You can't move on from it, because the

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next time you talk to Todd Gurley, you're gonna bring
up what happened how many months ago that could be
and that's an issue, and that's why I didn't like
it today. I just even if you're going to get
the same questions, you can put an end to it.
And Todd Gurley is a unique talent, and the Rams
are paying him a lot of money. And I think
that Sean McVeigh is a great mind in the National

(01:56:37):
Football League. But you know, we're seeing on the TVs,
we're seeing Todd Gurley talk to the media at the
end of Super Bowl fifty three. So now when you're
talking with local media in your home base, and most
of the nations moved on from the Rams except those
in l A. Now when you have something like this
stand out, now the national media, like US jumps back
in and says, well, why why didn't you show up

(01:56:59):
for the media? What was going on? And now it
becomes a story again. So this just this just doesn't
end well with the Rams. When I asked Eric at
home earlier in the show, do you think that the
Rams have a hangover? This is what causes Super Bowl hangovers.
This is the stuff that sticks around and carries into
next year. And that's a problem for the Los Angeles Rams.
I know, we've got to get to break either quickly

(01:57:19):
or when we come back. I want to know do
you think this game took a little luster off the
Sean McVeigh hype train. I'll answer that question in about
six minutes. How about that? He's aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
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way is easier. Is it time to stay away from
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Valentine's Day Thursday, February four, just over a week away.

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What gift are you getting for the one you love?
We'll say four hundred dollars on the half carrots total weight,
diamond heartpend and not only two hundred and nine dollars
and cents show cubid who's bossed this Valentine's Day at
Hellsburg Diamonds. I know it's a big day. It's the
your last Valentine's Day as a fiance, right, yeah, my

(01:58:49):
first one is a fiance to Okay, well, I didn't
want to say as a single man because I didn't
want to disrespect your fiance because you're not single because
you're with her. But this would be the last one
before you get hit. I got a haircut today in
my girl who cuts my hair literally said the exact
same thing, and I was like, well, technically, I was,
I'm not single, like I can't just go out and
just do what I want. But yeah, no, I'll have

(01:59:11):
a I'll have a ring on my finger this time.
We'll make it special and go to Hellsburg diamonds and
did I did I tell you this last time? So
I bought her. There's a very fancy steakhouse. I won't
name the brand in case there's some sponsor their arrivals
or whatever. Um, it's right within walking distance of our place.

(01:59:32):
Called him a rival, like you know where conference foes. Yeah,
with that popular steakhouse. But go ahead. No, no, no,
like I didn't know if I didn't know if one
of their uh you know, the other steakhouses was a
big sponsor on it. Totally got if their arrivals. So no,
but I there's one within walking distance of our our apartment,
and we we go there from time to time for

(01:59:54):
happy or whatever. So for Christmas, I got her a
gift card from the steakhouse, knowing that would just bring
me probably probably on Valentine. Yeah, there you go. So
I don't know, I don't know if she's she she
she you know, she's hinted that she doesn't feel like
she needs to use the gift card on me, and
that I'll be paying for myself. But I think I'll
pull the fast one and get my own meal paid

(02:00:15):
for with money. Man, good luck with that. If I
gave a State gift card to my wife. Wowikes, I
have bought some bad gifts. You know, there's no doubt
about that. Stuff that I thought would work, like this
would be great, and then it's just like I bought
like a vanity once and now we just put stuff
on it. It doesn't even it's it's basically it's more

(02:00:36):
of a nuisance than anything. Well, my defense for like
the last year has been I gave you the ultimate
gift and if you're if you're not happy with that,
give me the darn ring back and see how that funny. Yeah,
see how far that gets you. She doesn't think it's funny.
And I'll just tell you she doesn't. You better up
it by going to Hellsburg Diamonds. That's that's the way
that you you crank it up and not you. On
Valentine's Day, you would pose the question is there any

(02:00:59):
luster off of Sean McVeigh after the Super Bowl and
how things have played out for the Rams, And I
don't think there is at all. In fact, I actually
have more respect for Sean McVeigh for having the guts
to figure out a way to handle this Todd Gurley
situation and saying all right, we're gonna play C. J. Anderson.

(02:01:22):
I mean, reports came out that they were gonna split
fifty fifty or they're gonna split carries in the super Bowl.
And to be able to come up with a game
plan now we don't know exactly what's going on with Gurley,
and as I said, him skipping today doesn't do any good.
But to be able to come up with a game plan,
I think that there's there's more to that. I also
think that for as crazy as we get about Sean McVeigh,

(02:01:43):
the copy can'tinus of you know, the the whole jokers,
Well do you know Sean McVeigh where you're getting a job.
And I felt that at some point that was almost
disrespectful because it takes away the intangibles that Sean McVeigh has.
And I think that's that's not showing him the respect
of what a special job that he actually did, thinking
that you could just get anybody in there and and

(02:02:04):
run your offense. And so I look at Sean McVeigh
as as a guy who's you mean, even maybe separated
himself even more and and handled the tough times and
to go in there and and say we looked at
things or today. He made these Tuesday made the comments
saying we looked at tape. Yeah, there was a lot
of stuff I could have done. He said as much
right after the game on Sunday. So I actually think

(02:02:25):
more of Sean mcvii. I don't think there's any luster
off of him. I'm curious and what he can get
out of Jared Goff though, uh this offseason during nineteen Yeah,
there were some jokes on Twitter Sunday night, and I
didn't necessarily disagree with him of like Arizona Cartinals, You
sure you want to go down that cliff Kingsbury Road
after that? But I do agree, And that's always been
my problem with this whole concept of finding the next

(02:02:46):
Sean McVeigh. There isn't a thirty one year old guy
who's thirty or thirty when we got hired, with the
skill set, the people skills, the offensive background to do
what he can do. It's like saying, let's just go
find the next steph Curry. There isn't a six ft
one guy that can hit twenty eight footers just walking
around on planet Earth. So we're recovered alive. For the
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(02:03:09):
I'll tell you I'm Dan Buyer. Get Aaron on Twitter
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and I do think a Super Bowl hangover is coming
for the Rams. I don't think they make the playoffs
next year, and if they do, even more kudos to
Sean McVeigh so who deserves kudos. The Pelicans are the
Lakers for this trade disaster. Will tell you next here
on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions

(02:03:30):
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. We could have set
in for the Lakers on Tuesday night and maybe performed
better than they did in Indiana, a forty two point
loss at the hands of the Indiana Pacers. You remember,
don't have Victor Oladipo and the Lakers tonight just didn't

(02:03:51):
have any heart, So that that's how you could put it.
Lebron may not have any friends. Spotted on the bench
three seats from the rest of his teammates, even though
he played thirty that's his first forty point loss of
his career, all within forty eight hours of the NBA
trade deadline to be exact, it comes up Thursday three
o'clock Eastern time when deals have to be done. But

(02:04:12):
the Lebron story, the Anthony Davis story, the Lakers Pelicans
trade all involved. On a Tuesday that hours before the
Lakers played the Indiana Pacers, there was a report that
the Lakers decided to just not give the Pelicans any
more offers and were withdrawing from trade talks if they
weren't going to hear back from the Pelicans. I think

(02:04:33):
that's the best way to summarize it, right, that's they
were just they were They were withdrawing because they wanted
to hear what the heck the Pelicans wanted. And I
think they were literally out of stuff to offer them,
like they offered them every player on the roster not
named Lebron, two statues outside of the Staples Center, a
couple of King's banners from the Staples Center inside. There

(02:04:53):
was nothing left. Diane Cannon was part of the deal.
It was. It was unbelievable. So yeah, No, the way
that I read it was they kept upping the offer
thinking that it would close the deal with the Pelicans
and then the Pelicans would say, oh, yeah, I know,
we said we're gonna be good on that, but can
you throw in this guy? Can you throw in a
few more draft picks? And so I think that they

(02:05:15):
kind of took everything off the table to recalibrate, and basically,
like my understanding was, they were just looking for an
actual counter offer, like, Okay, we've given you everything, what
do you actually want. I always use fantasy trades because
I think it's the best way two relate to what
these teams are going to And there's a guy in

(02:05:36):
my fantasy football league, and I'm sorry I brought up
my fantasy football I just think it's the best way
to be like, what in the world are you talking about?
Where He said he wouldn't offer any trades because it
felt like then he wouldn't have the upper hand, which
was to me so absurd. But he was so conservative

(02:05:59):
and not wanting to show his cards. He wanted somebody
else to make the first move because he didn't want
to reveal what he thought. He thought. Basically, what he
was afraid of was that he would offer a deal
and the guy would accept it right away and make
him look like an idiot. That's that's what it was.
This is the exact almost same situation where the Pelicans

(02:06:20):
just starn't offering anything. Except in a fantasy football league,
your buddies would just be like, how to heck with him?
And don't even bother trading with him. The Lakers just
got on giving offer an offer, and offer an option A,
an option B, an option C, an Option D, and
it just kept on going and going and going until
there was, Okay, what are we doing here? Are we really?
Are we really saying that the difference here is first

(02:06:44):
round pick? Like that's when you start to break it down,
that's aw ridiculous it sounds. And when you look at
it from the Lakers case here and keep on trying
to add, if you don't have Kyle Kuzma and Brandon
Ingram in the deal, then it's probably not going to
get done. Anything else that you would have around it,
to me is not a deal break kers. So maybe
from the get go the Lakers should have realized, all right,
maybe this isn't going anywhere. But now here we are

(02:07:05):
less than forty eight hours on the trade deadline, and
we don't know if the Lakers are gonna get Anthony Davis.
We do know that these players have somewhat been scarred
from all this, and now you have a Lakers team
that is sitting on the outside looking in of the
NBA playoffs. You've got Lebron trying to return from an
injured growing. And not only on the are they on
the outside looking in, there's now a team ahead of them,

(02:07:26):
so that they're in the tenth spot in the West.
And I guess the question is, hasn't been worth it
for Lebron James so far? Because as we sit here
nearing the All Star break, you can't say that, yeah,
so far, so good. With Lebron in the Lakers uniform.
It's such a great point, right, I mean, if he
was in the East right now, yeah, he would probably
be fifth, sixth seed, fourth seed. You know, it's never

(02:07:48):
about winning the regular season for Lebron, but he'd still
have Kevin Love. And you know, you can't know who's
healthy and who's not, but Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson, you
have the draft pick that became Colin Sexton. You're at
least in the playoffs, you're at least competing to go
back to the finals to get smoked by the Warriors.
Now you're competing just to stay in the playoffs, and

(02:08:08):
on top of that, you're now competing with a bunch
of guys that I don't think have your back. You
just told all these guys you're not good enough to
play with me. I don't want you. I want to
move all of you out so I can get my
guys in. If you're Kyle Kuzma, if you're Brendan Ingram,
why are you going to war for Lebron James. I mean,

(02:08:29):
part of it is, yeah, you're a professional, it's self respect,
all that kind of stuff. But you know that you're
the star player. Doesn't want you there. You know you're
probably gonna get traded to a place you don't want
to go. I just don't know, you know, I just
don't know what the motivation is for those guys. It's like, uh,
you know, I'm not even trying to come up with
a bad analogy off my head. I'm fantasy football. I

(02:08:50):
do it all the time. Well, no, I was gonna
say it'd be like somebody telling you, yeah, you really
need to go on a diet. But rather than like
encouraging you and saying go to the jim, they just
pick on you the whole time, or tell you how
bad your diet is, or buffalo wild wings slap a
hamburger out of your hand and say, don't eat that. Like,
I can't think of a good analogy, but Lebron, let's

(02:09:12):
just say, like, you know, sentimentality and all those kind
of things. Probably not the best his best question. If
you're a Lakers fan, you obviously want Lebron James. That's
a no brainer. You want him on your team, and
that is a good thing. But the question then that
is is brought up, is is this working out? How
you would have thought. I'm asking these questions because I

(02:09:33):
do have the answers to them. It's not working out?
Is Laker fans would have hoped? They are excited that
they are in the conversation for Anthony Davis, and that
is something that is driving them with excitement real quick.
Lakers fans think they're in the conversation for everyone, though
even before Lebron got there, Oh, we're gonna get this guy,
We're gonna get that guy. When Kevin loves a free
agent he's from l A. First of all, No, he's

(02:09:55):
not from l A. He went to school in l A.
He's not from l A. But I mean the number
of people that Lakers fans think they are going to
get and haven't gotten over the last decade is you
could fill to All Star teams with it. And so
I just think with the Lakers, it's a mess. I
don't mean to cut you know. The point that I
was gonna make was this is Laker fans and Lebron

(02:10:18):
James actually have two different ideas of what is successful.
And unfortunately, I do believe that Lebron and a championship
with l A was not the main reason that he
went to Los Angeles, Like to win more championships, you
obviously have a better chance of just as you said,

(02:10:38):
staying in Cleveland where you would be, and then maybe
you make a push and and you know, Kevin Love's
health would have been a different story. But maybe there's
moves you could have made for the extra year. But
I never felt that Lebron came to l A to
win more titles. That just it was. It was more
about that if more titles came with it, then great.
I just kind of felt that Lebron was ready for

(02:11:00):
a new start, wanted to come to l A, wanted
to be a Laker. Wanted to be that guy, and
probably at some point during his four year stay he'd
win a title. But there was no expectation that this
team was going to win an NBA title this season, right,
So there's one year out the books, and now you've
got three left. Then you're hoping, okay, summer to put
it together. Maybe if Golden State falls apart, but let's

(02:11:22):
just say Golden State ends up sticking together, Kevin Durants around.
Even if Kevin Durant isn't around, I'm sorry, the Warriors
are still going to be in the conversation. There's no
guarantee that there's a championship in year two. So now
you're down to two years of Lebron's four years being there.
And that's why I say that he came here. Sure
it'd be awesome if they won a championship for him,
but I don't think it was his do or die

(02:11:43):
of of everything that was going on in Cleveland. And
that's what's so unique about this situation is I don't
even know if they're over the top with Anthony Davis,
you know, especially if they got to give up all this.
But it is interesting because I do think that was
kind of the concept. But I also remember saying at
the time, like nobody's actually thinks because Lebron signed that

(02:12:05):
four year deal, I'm here for the long haul, I'm
gonna retire here, all that stuff. But Lebron has never
been patient anywhere. So the idea that he was just
gonna come here and kick his feet up and oh yeah,
like this isn't middle school softball here, like, it was
never gonna be yeah, if we win, great, if we
don't great, like that was what the narrative was, and
I think it was easy to buy into. But Lebron

(02:12:27):
has never been patient. He's never been patient with coaches.
He's never been patient with young players, he's never been
patient with any roster that he's ever had. He's always
trying to tweak, he's always trying to upgrade. I mean,
you brought up the great point Dan earlier in the show,
the second he got to Cleveland, see Andrew Wiggins, you know,
I mean, and so that was something that never jibed

(02:12:48):
with me. I get saying year one, we're not beating
the Warriors, but I never bought that this was gonna
be this thing where like Lebron kicks his feet up
because we've never seen him go more than a month
or two without creating this kind of drama that is
now once again in Captu in the Lake. We joked
and I don't know if we have the opportunity because
Lebron James made some comments earlier after their loss to

(02:13:11):
the Indiana Pacers. This is what he said about his teammates,
and I guess their effort after their forty two point
lost to the Pacers. We have a lot of guys
have been and Trey talks the last couple of weeks
and that's never been in that position before. So you
have to axcelse guys, and um, you know how they're
dealing with it. I don't. I can't. You can't really
ask me. I've never been a part of that, but
I've been a part of teammates, you know. I know

(02:13:32):
it has to be tough on a lot of our guys,
especially our young guys. Uh you know right now, they've
just never been a part of it, and um, you know,
and they're here every single day. The worst thing that
you can do right now to be on social media.
And I know all young guys love social media, so um,
you know that definitely can't help. I get Lebron is
older and he talks about social media and I mentioned

(02:13:53):
earlier on how there's no one that loves Instagram more
than Lebron James because he truly loves it. You know
what I do remember from his time in Cleveland are
videos with Richard Jefferson and with Tristan Thompson, pictures and
and with Kyrie Irving and Kyle Korver, them going to
Ohio State football games, or them sitting in the suites

(02:14:15):
during the World Series when the Indians were playing, uh,
the Chicago Cubs. I remember all those things with his teammates.
I don't remember one Instagram post that he's had with
his Laker teammates because I don't think he likes these guys.
I mean, yeah, at the end of the day, he
put together that team and like I remember, all these
NBA writers that follow me on Twitter, they would see

(02:14:36):
my two Oh. You know, if you think he's the
one making all the moves and you you don't understand
the NBA and how that works, No, that's not true.
He was. He was literally the one that signed off
on the j R. Smith trade. They came to him
and they said, hey, we can get j R. Smith.
We think he's a little bit of loose. Cannon Lebron said,
get me that guy. I will make it work. Obviously,

(02:14:57):
Tristan Thompson's his guy, another clutch sports guy. So I
think that's a really, really, really good point. Um, and
I just don't like these aren't his guys. And he
he wants to get in the guys that he wants
and these aren't those guys. He's Aaron Torres, He's my guy.
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I'm excited for the NFL season. You want to know why,
because it can go nowhere but up after Super Bowl

(02:16:22):
fifty three, Yeah, it was, it was. It was not good,
but it gives us something at least to look forward
to and to look ahead too, and too. I just
think next year in the NFL is going to be
really good. The young quarterbacks are gonna have another year
under their belt. We're gonna see more of Patrick Mahomes,
more of Deshaun Watson. There is going to be more.
I I'm excited to see more and more of the

(02:16:43):
of what the NFL has to offer. We'll see more
of Dak Prescott and see of him expanding his game.
See healthy, Aaron Rodgers, I think the one hundred season
of the NFL is going to be great. But before
there can be a regular season of the NFL, there
has to be an off season. So I put together
what I believe, Aaron, are the top five storylines that

(02:17:06):
you are going to get this off season in the
National Football League. So there have been a couple of
off seasons where it was dominated by deflate Gate. Remember
we didn't know if Tom Brady was going to be
suspended not going to be suspended. It carried the entire
off season. We also had an off season where the
only story was Ryan Fitzpatrick and where he would go

(02:17:28):
after he played with the New York Jets, Like that's
how that's how dry Itt got. But I don't think
that's going to be the case as we enter the
NFL season. So I'm gonna come down from five to one,
and right now I want to reveal what I think
is going to be the fifth biggest storyline this offseason
in the National Football League, And the fifth biggest storyline

(02:17:49):
is will Rob Gronkowski reach higher or play in. I
think that's I think that's a big, big storyline, and
I think we're gonna find out sooner rather than later,
just because of what Gronk has meant to that team offensively,
I think, attitude wise. And I know that he's been injured.

(02:18:10):
I know that he didn't catch a pass in their
final regular season game, only targeted three times, and then
o'k rock was a shell of himself. But I do
think that his decision, if it would be to retire,
would affect what the New England Patriots have next season.
And I don't care what you say, there is no
way that you can replace Grock and we saw it

(02:18:31):
in the Chiefs game in the a f C Championship.
So I think his decision whether to retire or unretired
and keep playing, I shouldn't say unretired keep playing is
the fifth biggest storyline in the NFL this offseason. Well,
I'll tell you this. When I saw that this was
on your list, I immediately went to Google. I said,
are there any new updates on Rob Gronkowski. This was
the first thing that I thought, Okay, Rob Gronkowski ditched

(02:18:54):
multiple shirts, caught tide pods, and drank wine in the Patriots.
What a way to start the off seasoned right, That's
a perfect way. That is also a perfect way to
start retirements with the one I know Lebron James likes
the you know it seem great, yes here and there.
I don't know ditching multiple shirt and I know the
Tide Pods deal. I just think it's a big deal

(02:19:15):
if if Rob Gronkowski retires, I do agree, you know, commentary,
funny commentary aside. I think even the threat of having
Gronk on the field completely changes what the Patriots are
capable of doing, and obviously removing him would completely change
what their offense looks like in the threats that they
would have next. And what's what's interesting with this is
the Patriots were apparently willing to trade him. Remember the

(02:19:37):
talk last year of the of the deal that he
could go to the Detroit Lions. But then Gronk said, well,
I'll just retire anyway if you end up trading me.
Curious to see out if the Patriots maybe do want it.
Maybe that message could be a forced decision. Maybe the
Patriots don't want him back, but I think that they
would considering what you saw at the end, and if
you could just get him healthy enough to play in

(02:19:58):
those later games and have those mismatches and as you said,
be a threat, is a big deal for New England.
So that's our fifth biggest storyline this off season. The
fourth biggest storyline that you're going to get the NFL
this offseason the future of Nick Foles and Joe Flacco. Now,
those are the two veteran quarterbacks that we think could
be in different uniforms, especially with the news today about

(02:20:21):
Folds likely to buy out after the Eagles picked up
his option. The Eagles still would have the option to
place the franchise tag on him, which would allow them
to trade him to another team and then he could
sign a contract there in the Eagles would get compensation.
But I'm putting Flacco in this in an off season
or in a year where quarterbacks in the draft aren't plentiful.

(02:20:42):
You've got Dwayne Haskins, You've got Drew lock and maybe
you've got Kyler Murray and a couple of other guys
Daniel Jones from Duke. Those guys aren't the household names
that we had seen last year of Baker Mayfield and
Sam Donald. So I like to whereabouts of Folds and
Flacco to be the fourth biggest storyline this off season. Yeah,
and uh as we had a guest earlier on who

(02:21:03):
mentioned this as well, is that there are any number
of teams that could be interested, could not be. Obviously,
we think almost for certain Jacksonville will be looking for
a QB, Miami will be looking for a QB. But
what about the Redskins? What about the Giants? So there's
gonna be no shortage of suitors. And I'm just curious,
like everybody else, what does Nick Foles look like over
sixteen games? If you were the New York Giants, and

(02:21:26):
let's just say that you don't believe in Eli Manning,
you know what I would do? What I would call
the Denver Broncos, who are going to be in the
market for a quarterback. So what do you want for
Case Keenum. Let's reunite Case Keenum and Pat Schirmer the
for for the great success that they had in Minnesota
during that time. If there was anyway, I know Keenum
didn't live up to the expectations in Denver, but I

(02:21:49):
think you pretty much got what you were expecting four
Case Keenum or what you should expect if you were
able to bring him in to take over for the Giants.
I think that would be an interesting way to move
on from the Eli Manning era. You would have a
quarterback familiar with your system. You could still get the
ball to Odell Beckham Jr. And Evan Ingram and Sterling Shepard,

(02:22:10):
and now you've got the running game with sa Kwon Barkley.
That would be a call that I would make if
I was if I was running the New York Giants
in Dave Gentleman, just to see what what Denver would do,
because they could be one of those teams that are
interested in the quarterback. And we've heard that John Elway
is smitten Withdrew lock of Missouri. Denver picks tenth. I
think case Keenum could be available smitten and last time

(02:22:33):
he was smitten with a quarterback was Paxton Lynch in
the NFL Draft, So he needs to be less smitten.
But no, I don't think it's a bad idea. I
would be curious if the Giants are in that position,
and maybe Dwayne Haskins is still on the board. I
don't know that he will be, but if he is,
what does that mean for them, But I don't think
it's terrible idea at all. I like case Keenum more
than most. Here's and and here's what I think with

(02:22:55):
the fulls and flacc o'deal. When you were when we
had Eric Edholme on and he was talking about Jack
Saville being a fit for foals, this is what I
feel bad about. I don't know any team that would
have Joe Flacco in there that would be excited about it,
and and and and it's unfortunate because Joe Flacco is
a super Bowl champ, and all we've done is is
seemed to you know, is Joe Flacco went elite quarterback

(02:23:18):
with so much of a of a conversation and and
it was almost made a joke. And now when you're
looking at the quarterback play around the league, he would be,
in my eyes, at upgrade in in a few spots
in the National Football League, places that are looking for
maybe different quarterback play, that are ready to move on,
maybe Miami, different spots. I don't know. But if you

(02:23:39):
bring him in, I just don't think you're saying, all right,
all right, you know, we got Joe Flacco is our guy.
I didn't think he was as terrible as everybody else
did this season. Uh, you gotta move on. It's it's
Lamar Jackson. Or he won a ton of games even
though he didn't have to do much because the defense
was so good. I didn't think he was this terrible,

(02:24:00):
totally washed up, unusable guy. But I do think there
is this perception that, as you just said, Dan, that
he's no longer that guy that any franchise or any
fan base is gonna get excited about. My number three
storyline of the NFL offseason, another one we could find
out Kyler Murray to play or not to play the

(02:24:22):
sports of professional football. I think that that he is
let's just say this, if he enters the draft, he
is the only story in this NFL draft that we
care about. Last year, there were there were six or
seven different storylines that we were following with all of
the quarterbacks and Sae Kwon Barkley and different teams trying
to trade up for players. That's all that we found

(02:24:45):
this NFL draft. Because it's so heavy with defensive lineman,
there may not be elite prospects, there may not be
elite quarterbacks. Kyler Murray would be the story of the
NFL draft. If he even goes to the NFL draft, well,
and that's why I think you could almost art you
that he is individually. Two of the most interesting storylines
in the NFL draft or of the off season is

(02:25:07):
one does he actually choose football, because, as you and
I discussed earlier in the show, that is not set
in stone. I mean, him declaring for the draft just
prolong the process. But we will find out here in
the next couple of weeks. There's spring training starts for
the Oakland A's, who's obviously under contract with Then if
he does play football, where does he go? Because I

(02:25:28):
think there's this notion, Oh it's it's for sure he's
a top ten pick or he's the top five pick.
And I'm just saying, NFL coreps, you know. And if
the NFL is a copycat league, it is a you
know that don't take chances league. I just don't know
how many gms are gonna be willing to put their
careers on the line to draft a five ten, a

(02:25:49):
hundred seventy five pound quarterback. He's the only one like
him in football, so you have to completely change your offense.
The backup isn't gonna be anything like him, And I
just think you're putting a lot on the line if
you're really taking him at the front end, especially by
the way, with baseball still kind of weirdly in the background.
I am going to use Lamar Jackson as an example,

(02:26:10):
and not because he's a former Heisman Trophy winning quarterback,
but what we saw in the National Football League this
year is it no longer matters if you're a number
one overall pick. What seems to matter is if you're
just a first round quarterback. Because in in my years
of growing up and following the NFL draft and following
the National Football League, there was a difference to being

(02:26:31):
the first pick of the first round and being the
last pick of the first round, different expectations. And I
assumed that there was a year ago at this time. Well,
what we saw once Lamar Jackson entered the starting lineup
for the Baltimore Ravens was that he was being held
to the same expectations of a Baker Mayfield, of a
Sam Donald, of any of those quarterbacks that were taken early.

(02:26:53):
And and I had always thought, Aaron that when you
have a guy later on in the first round, it's
more gravy like you're not you're not resting everything, you're
not putting all of your eggs in that basket that
that player works out. But with Lamar Jackson, it was
he had just as much, if not more pressure on

(02:27:14):
him the Baker Mayfield did than Sam Donald did. And
it's a different animal. And now if you're Kyler Murray,
I think it's that same situation. And I don't know
if that was the case a few years and you
mentioned Paxton Lynch, That's what I was gonna says. It
was different for him than it was Lamar Jackson. And
I wonder if it was because Lamar came in with
so much hype Heisman Trophy winner, right up there with
Baker Mayfield as probably most prominent players in last year's draft.

(02:27:37):
Even if obviously Josh Rosen Josh Allen were quote unquote
better prospects Lamar Jackson was that guy. He was one
of the most talked about guys coming into that draft.
I wonder if that play is I think them winning
as well. If he came in and they lost, it
would have been like, oh, he's not ready to be
an NFL quarterback, And all of a sudden, now they
have this running game that was one of the best
in football with him being a major part of it,

(02:27:59):
and then it ended up becoming a story. He's Aeron Torres,
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(02:28:22):
in fact, nineteen three pointers that tied a franchise record
for the Pacers. They shot those in their one win
over the Lakers, that forty two point when the largest
margin of defeat Lebron James has suffered in his career.
Lebron did play the whole game, by the way, in
case anybody's wondering, eighteen point seven rebounds, nine assists, also

(02:28:43):
having a great night on the On the other hand,
a seventh straight triple double for Russell Westbrook, so that
street continues as the thunder beat the Magic One. Paul
George with thirty nine points in the win for Oklahoma City.
He'd won the late Cap tonight, the night Cap won
eighteen one oh eight at Portland, while New York Knicks
have now lost fourteen in a row, Pistons beat the

(02:29:05):
next one oh five nine two. You know, baseball continues
to try to make changes to improve the pace of play.
Ken Rosenthal reporting that Major League Baseball suggested a rule
requiring pictures to face a minimum of three batters, and
Rosenthal also says the players countered by proposing, among other measures,
universal adoption of the designated hitter as soon as this

(02:29:28):
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St John's upset tenth rank Marquette seventy to sixty nine,
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(02:29:50):
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off season biggest storylines of the National Football League. Joshua
Leebowitz tweets in keenum to the Giants, that's a guaranteed
losing season. Wow. I think it's guaranteed if Eli Manning

(02:30:57):
is the starting quarterback of the New York Giants. I
think if you if you're trying to figure out a way.
Maybe you do want to bring in a young quarterback,
you don't want to play him right away. You could
swing a deal for for Case Keenum SWAPPYLI in case
Keenum put Case back with Pat Shermer. At least there's
that connection there and you could have some success from
what you've had in Minnesota just a couple of years

(02:31:18):
ago or a year ago. Yeah, I think it's tough.
In my Saturday partner, Arny spani he is a huge
Giants fan, and I think he already has resigned himself
to do we try to go get Dwayne Haskins? Do
we wait for Tuah next year? I mean the Pickens
are slim and Eli Manning obviously, whether it's this year
next year, it's coming to an unfest now if you
missed it. The fifth, fourth, and third biggest storylines in

(02:31:41):
the NFL offseason Number five Gronks retirement decision. Number four
the future of Nick Foles and Joe Flacco and in
their possible future new homes. And number three Kyler Murray,
who's twofold, whether he chooses to play football or doesn't,
and then if he does, he becomes the obvious story
in the NFL draft that is lacking in storylines. Next year,

(02:32:02):
it'll be a different story. It'll be back to all
the quarterbacks that you can draft, whether it be to
a tongue of Valoa, whether it be Jake From or
Justin Herbert or whoever, and From would have to declare
same thing with Tah. The point is there expects to
be a lot of quarterbacks in the draft class that
are going to be high on team's lists, so much
so that the Dolphins maybe tanking for one of those.

(02:32:22):
Twenty nineteen Kyler Murray seems to be the story. All right,
Let's get to the second biggest storyline, and it comes
out of Pittsburgh Levy on Bell's future. Now I was
going to put Levy on Bell's signing, but there could
be a possibility that the Steelers placed the transition tag
on Levian Bell, and maybe Levan Bell ends up having

(02:32:46):
to sit out another year or not wanting to play
for the Steelers. The point is levy on Bell's future
likely not going to be in a Steeler's uniform. Again,
it's just a question of where is it going to be.
The Jets have been a possibility. I've always said the
Raiders I just think they need a star when they
go to Las Vegas. That he would just seem like
the perfect guy to fit Levy on Bell signing and

(02:33:09):
where he could go this offseason the second biggest story
in the NFL. Yeah, very interesting. Early on there were
reports about the Dolphins and part because he wanted to
continue his rap career being in Miami, hit Bull MR worldwide.
I'm just fascinating to see because my stance on this
is that I think he has to go to the

(02:33:30):
highest bidder, whether it's a team that's a contender. We've
heard the Colts, the Texans getting a little bit of
recent buzz, maybe the forty Niners pairing with Jimmy Garoppolo.
But I think when you give up fourteen million, you
have to go to the highest I agree, and that's
why I actually give him credit for choosing the Dolphins,
because of the Dolphins would be the team that would

(02:33:51):
give him the most money. You're sticking to your guns.
That's at least what you what you were all about.
And championship aren't judged running backs aren't judged by championships.
It's just not the case. Nobody says. Emmett Smith has
three super Bowl rings. We say Troy Aikman has three
super Bowl rings, but we don't say that Emmett Smith does.

(02:34:11):
So if you're Levan Bell, winning a super Bowl or
not is not going to change your legacy. If you're
gonna sit out a whole season because you're not happy
for what you're being paid, as you said, you best
get that money. Yeah, it's ironic now that I'm thinking
about it. Running back is the only position that it
feels like every like the modus opera, like the accepted
social commentary on running backs is go get as much

(02:34:34):
money for as long as you can, because that well
is going to drive quick. I think it's the only
position in sports I can think of that's like that well.
It's come to be that time. Time to reveal the
number one off season story in the NFL that we
will be following, and what do you know, it resides
in Pittsburgh as well, the future of Antonio brav This one,

(02:34:56):
to me is more intriguing Errand than Lady On Bell
for the simple reason of a trade and the willingness
of the Pittsburgh Steelers if they were to offer Antonio
Brown to another team. There was a report today that
police were called for an incident that he had. No
arrests were made with the domestic partner. I believe no

(02:35:18):
one arrests were made involving Antonio Brown. But the point is,
it seems like the Pittsburgh Steelers are interested in moving
on from Antonio Brown and where he would go a
trade is much more intriguing than any signing. Antonio brown
status this offseason, to me, is the biggest story that
we are going to follow in the National Football League. Yeah,
not a hundred percent, And there's so many fascinating layers

(02:35:41):
because of the concept of the Steelers. If it's public
that the Steelers want to move him, what is his
actual market, who was actually interested in him, and what
kind of you know, like personality wise, what you know.
There's a lot of stuff that's come out of Pittsburgh.
You and I have discussed on other shows how much
of it is really Tonio Brown's fault versus Ben Roethlisberger

(02:36:02):
versus Mike Tomlin. But independent of that, obviously, he is
going to come with some quote unquote peg You don't
want to know what else I think would be interesting.
We saw the impact that Amari Cooper had for Dak
Prescott at the Dallas offense, and I would say that
many of us felt that wide receivers weren't having the
impact on their teams that you would say a quarterback

(02:36:24):
or a defensive end a different position would have. But
to see what Amari Cooper did. And now, if you
were to put Antonio Brown in a situation where he
could start for a team that would need a receiver
like that, because he is so good and he really
is good, like there's there's no denying, there's no denying that.

(02:36:45):
I would be curious to see the factor and how
much of a difference he would make on a new team,
whether that's worth it or not to another team. To
to deal with his attitude, to deal with the questions
that you may have, that's a whole other story, which
makes it the bigest story I think this offseason. But
if he had any success there anything comparable to what

(02:37:06):
Amari Cooper would do, uh, that would be pretty impressive
because he's he's the best wide receiver in the National
Football League and have him dealt to me is the
biggest offseason story you could have. Well, and this always
amazes me in football, the value of draft picks is like, oh,
you can't give up a first round draft pick, and
it's like, well, Amari Cooper completely changed the Cowboys season,

(02:37:27):
and there is no one that you can draft in
next year's NFL draft that is going to have the
impact on your team that Antonio Brown would. And so
does that necessarily mean you're giving up draft picks? Not necessarily,
but you're probably gonna end up giving up draft picks.
And so to me, I don't think there's a value
you can put on Antonio Brown. Khalil Mack same deal. Oh,

(02:37:47):
they gave up all these first round draft picks. You're
not gonna find another Khalil Mac. So I'll be curious
to see what the market is for him and then
obviously where he ends up. And by the way, that
a Mary Cooper trade. And I was dead wrong on it.
I I didn't think it was to work out. I
think I was like many. I thought that the Cowboys
were destined to now be a top ten team and
giving up a first round pick turned around the season

(02:38:09):
the man of wild Card. Now the Raiders have two
picks in the twenties of their three in the first round. Yeah,
and I just um, it was just one where I
didn't hate it because I did. I did. I thought
it was a bad move and they proved me wrong. Well, Cooper,
he had been in he had been a pro bowler though,
I mean he was a good receiver. I didn't think

(02:38:29):
he was that kind of difference maker. But maybe that's
just the guy they needed. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
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we've seen a thing or two. We are farmers under
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(02:39:32):
just always go along with it. He's here and Torres,
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first rule is you don't ask about five Club. Don't
don't ask about slide over. We don't talk about it. Hey,
it seems like it's a state of mind. That's what
it's all right. I'll tell you what. Lebron wasn't sliding

(02:39:53):
over to sit with his teammates on Tuesday night. Three
chairs separated them. Uh, Lebron and his tea mates and
their forty two point loss to the Indiana Pacers. And
then a sound bite that you'll be hearing over and
over again. Let's hear Lebron again on his teammates. We
have a lot of guys who's been in trade talks.
The last couple of weeks and that's never been in
that position before, so you have to axcelse guys, and um,

(02:40:17):
you know how they're dealing with it. I don't, I can't.
You can't really ask me. I've never been a part
of that, but I've been a part of teammates, you know.
I know it has to be tough on a lot
of our guys, especially our young guys. Uh you know
right now, they've just never been a part of it,
and um, you know, and they're hearing every single day
the worst thing that you can do right now to
be on social media. And I know all young guys

(02:40:38):
love social media, so um, you know that definitely can't
help look so much in that of the young guys
loving social media. I have been a part of teammates.
I don't even know what that means. But but that
was Lebron James after he was dealt his first forty
point loss of his pro career. As the Lakers have
withdrawn now from trade talks from the Pelicans or at

(02:40:59):
least want to hear a counter offer from New Orleans
for Anthony Davis. Yeah no, And it's amazing to me
that Lebron, who is the reason that all of these
guys are on the trade block, by the way, not
one of them because it's the trade deadline. Sure, sometimes
a team wants to make an upgrade or two or
move a bad contract. Everyone on the roster is on

(02:41:20):
the trade block because Lebron wants Anthony Davis as his teammate.
Everyone you two, three, four, or five six on the
depth chart, you are on your way out. The trade
deadline is three o'clock Eastern time on Thursday. I get
the sense that the Lakers aren't going to hear a
peep from the New Orleans Pelican, that it's going to

(02:41:41):
be radio silence, and that Anthony Davis will remain a
Pelican for the rest of the season. Whether he plays
is a completely different story. It's got that finger. But
apparently he's gonna be. He's been cleared to return. The
Pelicans just won't play him before the deadline. But I
just don't see, after all the Lakers have done, there

(02:42:03):
has to be a reason that the Pelicans did not
accept the Lakers offer, and whether that be out of spite,
whether that be out of wanting to see what the
Celtics offered, whether that be that they still don't have
all their ducks in a row and not being prepared
that Anthony Davis wanted out. Whatever the reason, maybe it
would all point to there's no reason to hold on there,
to trade him, your models will hold onto him and

(02:42:26):
then wait the off season. I agree, and I think
it's part of all of the above. I don't think
they want to help the Lakers, and I do think
they want to see what else is out there. And
I don't understand this notion that like, you can't play
Anthony Davis. That makes no sense to me. It's like
he's under contract for another year and a half, you're
paying him, but truckloads of money. You sent him out there,

(02:42:47):
and you say you have a job to do, Go
do it. And by the way, keep a trade value high.
If you want to go to the Lakers, you want
to go to Celtics, make sure we can get something
in return. You know, Anthony Davis is never played a
full season. I know, and and you know there's there's
something else to that. But I think what it comes
down to is this, if you're the if you're the Pelicans,

(02:43:07):
And I've always I believe this in the trade and
maybe this was wrong because I felt that the Cavaliers
were getting at least a better deal than what was
on the surface when or what it turned out to
be with the Kyrie Irving. You've got to get the
best number one player that You've got to get the
best one player that you can out of the deal
as opposed to the best five or six. And I

(02:43:29):
think that Jason Tatum is going to be the best
player that they could get in the deal. And that's
why it's worth the Pelicans not doing anything, because he's
the best you're going to get. And when it comes
down to it, you've got to at least get that
one guy who's going to be the best if you're
going to deal him. I don't disagree. I'll be fascinated.
Jayson Tatum obviously got hot at the end of last year.

(02:43:50):
Could it happen again? But again, if you want Anthony Davis,
you're gonna have to give up something. Will Jayson Tatum
be that guy? And the Lakers could have had Jason
Tatum if they would have looted him instead of Lonzo Ball. Yes,
there's although I think that Tatum and Mark l Folts
are more tied because the picks were swapped. I think
if Tatum stays a Celtic. He'll give nightmares to the
Philadelphia seventy six years for years to come. Don't get

(02:44:12):
me started on Jason Tatum. I got a whole thing
on that. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This has about.
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