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January 10, 2020 • 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon celebrate their 6 year show anniversary that started many many moons ago! The guys reminisce all their adventures from the past that made them who we they are today and all the celebrity guests that have joined the show along the way! Plus, a majestic story of the first night Jason met Mike and instantly thought the show wouldn't last longer than a week but boy was Jason wrong! Kevin Durant has show yet again his addiction to social media and his inability to step away from twitter fights he has no point in participating in!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Today's a big day, not just you know, for us,
but it's a big day for everybody. And and and thank
you for listening to the show. Uh, this is now
our six year anniversary. Yea, all of us doing the
show together. Finish six years of yelling and screaming and

(00:44):
singing and bermin impressions you know, you and I and
Frostburg and Tie Shirt and Laura Gardner for the first
couple of years of this run. And and uh, it's
it's been some kind of it's been a fast six years.
I mean there's things that I'll remember us talking about
going man, that was four years ago. That wasn't just
last year we did that. That was four years ago. Okay,
it was all right, that was that was that long

(01:05):
ago that happened? Okay, yeah about wanting Tom Brady to
leave the division for as long as I've known you, Well,
come on, that's back in that's like two thousand and four. Yeah,
but then you know you were on the Hey, this
guy's got to be done. He's got to be done,
isn't he? That's seven years before we met A long
done but long arewish journey? And and now and and

(01:25):
it's weird for me because now officially I have now,
now that we've hit the six year mark, I have
been doing this show longer than I did All Night
when I was on. It's really how long did you
do All Night? I did All Night for five years
and fifty one weeks. I was a week shoy when
I left to go to NFL Network. So I was
just about to celebrate my six year anniversary and and

(01:46):
NFL Network called and and I wound up going there
for three years doing TV and it was really cool,
and I was glad. I would you give him no, no, no, no, no,
what he's done that done. A couple of occasions when
we referenced people there, they let's just say I as
far as ESPN went, uh, it was good that I left,
and I think they were at the time felt like, Okay, well,

(02:10):
well now we we can do different things with the
time slot, with with what they wanted to do, and
um then they realized, oh well that didn't work, and
so now they're back trying to figure out a new
thing around it. But um, it was. It's weird for
me because just like I said, it was just shy
as six years and I felt like I did that
show for so long, and you know that that was
two thousand five through two thousand eleven. This has now

(02:33):
been two thousand fourteen through two thousand twenty, and it's
just I feel like that the time on this show,
maybe because it's still recent for me in here, it's
still so much it's just flown by. Like I said, things,
I can't believe it was four years ago. I thought
was last year? You know, I thought was you know,
we did that story a couple months ago, Jason, that
was in July. It was in July. Okay, that was

(02:53):
that long. We're just getting I mean, that's the beauty
and it was there's still new new venues and arena's doings.
Floor may we have the teams in l A. Philip
Rivers is probably not going to be a Charger the quarterback.
I mean, what are you gonna bring my to our
anniversary show? No, no, no, I wasn't trying to kill
Frost from Wow. But it was the point of being

(03:14):
here in Los Angeles. That is going to be one
of the things that leaps forward because we had been
waiting for a team here in l A. Otherwise, all
you did was go watch the Jets get their ass
kicked down by the Charges a few years ago. And yeah,
I know, see positive memories for you there. Why don't
you just give us a list of people who are dead?
Just just go all the way do your normal things.

(03:36):
Well that six years and Dey can't even bring up
that spreadsheet. Every just could talk about people who are dead.
Let's just you just totally the idea that I had
a spreadsheet and people that die. Since we came on air, Oh,
I figured if if people still did deadpools, you'd be
doing one of them. He's got ranking people still do

(03:57):
dead people ranking ranking? Wow? I mean, we celebrated you
and and Elvis and Bowie yesterday. It's a ten. If
they had a really really great road. I had to
have a good run. Well, I'll tell you one thing.
This conversation that we're having right now, right that that's
kind of fun, That that treats things. This would never
fly on ESPN. We could never have this kind of conversation.

(04:18):
They would say, what are you doing? What are you
doing talking about people who could be dead? It's it's
it's would have been fired week one. It's so regimented there,
and and and the thing that I I learned, you know, leaving,
is that there's different rules for different people. Obviously, uh
when they get yeah, you might but Overaul taking my stuff,
Oh yeah, you congratulate on the Michigan take. Uh, But

(04:41):
overall it's ESPN. When I left, I felt like it
was time for me to go because I've been doing
all night for a while and I was ready for
something new. And NFL Network came along, and that was
great for a few years. But I don't feel that
way now. I feel like six years I'm like, Okay,
we still have a lot of stuff to do, a
lot of fun stuff to talk about, and and and

(05:01):
and I'm still having a lot of fun coming in
every night. And it's it's definitely a different feel. I
have six year mark here and I had then Now
had I been able to have the freedom that we
have here from a company that doesn't care what I
tweet as long as I, you know, don't do stupid stuff.
You know that that that we can say what we want.
We can get outside the box at times when we're

(05:23):
talking sports, when we're outside of sports, and not have
to worry about the next day getting a phone call
going you know you spent that time talking about a
non real sports I'm like, what are you talking about?
We're having fun. People like to hear people on the
radio having fun, but that's not part of of what
they listened to and what they they focus on. ESPN
one of the big things they always told me was

(05:44):
have fun, but don't have too much fun. I'm like,
don't have too much fun, really, so make make sure
we we stopped the fun. It was like, go to
a party and have fun, but don't have too much fun.
While I'm going to a party, I mean, people want
to turn on the radio and then want opinions. And
obviously the sports world has evolve and the hot take
phenomenon to the past few years and different things but
people still like to turn the radio want and hear

(06:05):
people having fun and having fun conversations and giving strong
opinions and entertaining and doing things you're not expecting. But
that that's just a different way to do things that
seems antiquated. And there's a lot of frustration for myself,
many many people at you know, at ESPN when it
was when it was there. And I'll tell you, I'll
tell you one story real fest involves Dan Patrick that

(06:25):
will kind of illustrate some of the frustrations that was
there that I don't have now. And this is not
saying that all my goodness because I'm here and getting
paid the world is great. No, No, this is I'm
telling me the truth because that's what I've done for
the past fifteen or eighteen years on the radio. I'll
tell you the truth is that there was one time
where it was a story about Cubs, something about the

(06:48):
seventh inning stretch. I forget what I'm going back that
this is about like twelve years ago now, there was
a crazy story about the Cubs and the seventh inning stretch.
And I did that for about five minutes at like
five to eleven one night. Whatever it was, and it
was a fun story. It's cub seventh inning stretch and
it was something that it wasn't really was kind of
tangentially about. Was like whoever was doing the seventh inning?

(07:10):
It was whatever, it wasn't It was kind of fun.
And so the next day I have a meeting and Uh,
I would do an air check meeting like once a
month with my bosses. They would listen to when we
listened to an hour of the show, and they would say, Okay,
this was good. This wasn't all this stuff. And the
funny thing is is that day, you know, Dan Patrick,

(07:30):
when his show was still on ESPN, he did the
same topic. I mean he did. We both did different things,
but he did the same thing, was a fun seventh
inning stretch thing, and he did, you know, he did
his thing with the topic and I did my thing
on the topic. And when we were listening and my
boss at the time, who now no longer is the
boss there, uh said to me, yeah, you know you
spent that five minutes here. I then you weren't really

(07:52):
doing sports. I got I was doing the seventh inning
stretch topic for yeah, but it wasn't really sports. You
kind of you kind of got out of sports. I
but you didn't think that was a good topic? Was No, No,
nobody else did it today. Nobody else did it today,
and and and nobody else said I'm like okay. I'm like,
all right, fine, And I didn't know that Dan had
done this at this point. I said, okay. It was
a ridiculous answer, and it was an answer from a

(08:14):
boss who just talks to ten people in the focus
group and then here's something and comes and then that's
the law, which is what ESPN does. Ten people tend
lunatics with dials in their hands really program the network.
So I'm like, okay, fine, I couldn't. I couldn't do
it right. I couldn't do that start. So I get
done and my immediate manager calls me right after the
meeting and says, I'm so sorry about that. I said,

(08:34):
what do you mean. He goes, you can't tell anybody
the story, and I said, okay, but now I can
tell it, because you know what do I care? I said,
what happened? They did an air check on Dan Patrick
show earlier in the day, right, they did, because they
schedule these air check things, and that was the segment
they played where Dan did that topic and my boss
told him, all that was really fun you getting out

(08:55):
of the out of the box and doing that topic.
So getting out that topic. He he was okay doing
that time. Of course, he was okay doing that topic.
You know, Dan does a great show and it's funny,
it was it was really fun thing he did. But
I'm like, wait a minute. So it was okay for
him to do that topic and it was great, A
got time, but me doing it and it was, yeah,
I don't, I wouldn't do that, And it was It

(09:16):
was so frustrating because there were shows there that and
everybody understands there shows that that that get things that
other other shows don't. But just the fact that they
they felt like they couldn't really do anything with the
big daytime shows, so they overmanaged and micro managed all
the shows from like noon on And I was like,
I walked away from that meeting going I'm never gonna

(09:37):
win here. I'm really I'm never gonna win here. How
quick would this show have been off the air with
the three of us, Oh, they would. They would have
been meetings and meetings every week. All right, you guys,
this was good, This is good, but that. But that's
the difference. And and it was it's a new world
when you get to go someplace and not have to
worry about what you're doing, and and and a boss

(10:00):
because they want to justify their jobs write an email
the next day. Yeah, I was listening to Jason who
did bah bah blah blah. I mean, look, I'll tell
you another story. I'll tell you about our bos Scott Shapiro,
who came from ESPN. And I knew him at ESPN, right, Yeah,
he's he's the guy that bought the Kyle Rudolph gloves
by as long as he was the guy that bought
him and didn't oh, I thought he was the media guy.

(10:20):
The best thing is he listens to our show every night, right,
he listens to all those shows on the network. And
he's a phenomenal manager. And you know, at ESPN, you
there were certain words didn't like you to say, Like
if you said sucks or asked, they would go, oh,
don't say that, don't say that, don't say that. It's
like okay, but it's just yeah, but the words overnight

(10:42):
why not. Yeah, Well it was just any time any
time on the network, they're like, oh, you know don't
say it. Don't say it's like it's that that that
hurts the brand? What if it really stunk? Like yeah,
but what if what if a team really sucked? What
am I gonna say about the Jets? They suck? In theory,
we're supposed to be in the vernacular and speech and
patterns of those better listening, right, And I mean that
isn't that the the idea here? I like, this is

(11:04):
how you talk, you know, this is how this is
how I talk. I talked the same way off the
air that I do on the air, except with less
Jerry Jones impressions. I mean there's also a few four
letter words. I mean, there's still some radio radio rules
that we have to follow, but you get the point.
But one time we were doing a topic. I forget
what it was and I and I said, and I said,
oh my god, I said, that play, that play was

(11:25):
just that. That play was just asked or something like that,
I said. And Shapira was listening. He was I don't
know about that. He was getting ready to like text,
text me or text justin goes wait wait, wait, wait,
I don't. I don't work at ESPN anymore. I'm at
Fox this is okay, this is all right, and he
told me that sort of the next thing is I
really was, I'm so conditioned to this is what we

(11:45):
what they know this and no on this and no
on this and no on this. And I was ready
to go, oh, I don't know, and then it's like that.
Then he said, oh wait, and I realized we have
to worry about that, and it's okay. Well we wouldn't
have listened anyway. You would hung up on him, you
would hung up on this. Another's that that possibility equait
six six one two what so? So this is our

(12:07):
sixth year anniversary and night we'll tell fun stories throughout
the night. Tonight I have of a run. We're just
getting started phase two. I think one of my favorite
stories the first night I met Harmon and and he
was wearing something I haven't seen him wear it since,
but he was yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I was stunned
when I I had a completely different opinion of Mike Harmon,
like after we're working together a week than I did before.

(12:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox sports Radio and the I Heart Radio.
Ah app Let me just tell you this story. The
first night I met Mike Harmon a much different person
after I knew him for a week than the first
night I met him. Those calves were the same. Yeah, spectacular.

(12:51):
I can hardly contain him in these sweatpants now here.
And I don't know if I ever told you this
part of the story. When I was hired, they hired
me to do to do the show. Yeah, there was
a little bit of stuff that we Yeah, they hired
They hired me to do it, to do the show.
And then when our old boss who hired me said, hey,
there's a couple of people that I think I compare.

(13:14):
You know, what do you wanted? Do you want to
do a show solo? Do you want to do a
show with somebody? I said, well, I kind of did
the solo show. I said, I really want to stretch
my wings and have fun and do a lot of
crazy stuff. I'd like to do the show with somebody
and have a partner. You wanted to fly, and I said,
and I said, so, here's my list of people, Beyonce,
Christina Hendrix, and so I said, I said, that's what

(13:36):
I like, and he said, you know, there's a guy
here that I really think could do well with you,
and it's Mike Harmon. And I said, okay, I said,
I don't really know him, but at a little bit,
and uh, you know that's fine. So I listened to
Heart a little bit on the weekend some time out.
I gotta, yeah, I gotta pull back to Curtin here. Okay,
your first request was not what you said it was.
What was it? What was my first request? I remember

(13:57):
the fourth floor conversation clearly. Okay, you for alle Hayes.
Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Was Alie Hayes.
Alie Hayes. As they reached out, how old was he? Now,
she's like, I don't know that. I did. I really
know who Allie Hayes was six years I don't. Yeah,

(14:17):
you already don't touch on that, and don't think of
my wife. And I drive through Redlands, I don't look
around and see if maybe if Alie Hayes back and down,
just go down the street, man, that's really odd that
I go to the gym across the street. I know
where Alie Hayes is from, so it's not anyway. So
they said, you know my car said all right, great,

(14:38):
and then I just happened to you know, the the
official announcement was going to come in a couple of days,
and I told I told our boss said listen, yeah,
I said, I think Harmon's great. I think that'll work
out fine. And so like two nights before it was official,
I come in. I was filling in on a different
show and I see you here and I go, oh,
this is awkward. And you're standing outside the studio and

(14:58):
you're wearing a suit tie. Oh yeah. And he's in
a complete suit and tie, and he's got a box
of macarons that he's handing out to people. Here. Try this.
But I thought it was macarons, but they say macaron No,
it's macarons. I'm Jewish. But on Food Network they say macarons, macarons, macaroons. Okay.
And he's handing out he goes here, what would you
like a macaron? I said sure, I'm Jason, Yeah, I'm

(15:20):
my Carmon A right, And we're talking and and and
we're talking about things. I'm like, I can't say anything
to him, and see a couple of we feel really weird.
And I said you know, how do you like stuff
going on here? And you said, oh yeah, I like
doing I really wish I could do more, you know,
but I really like doing what I'm doing here. And
so I'm like, all right, let me. I said, well,
you know what, just keep those positive thoughts. Good things
may happen. I remember, I remember, I remember vividly saying

(15:42):
that to you. But the suit's kind of go that.
I walked away, and I'm like, and he can't come
in wearing a suit and tie every night? Come on, man,
this is I like, I wear sweats and sweatshirt and
you can't come and wearing a suit and tie. But
I've never seen you in anything other than sweats or
shorts and pants and I'm sorry and sneakers, like you've
never see me and anything other than that in the
last six years. Why the hell were you here where?

(16:05):
That's a really good question. Uh. The answer is, I
don't know. Um, I have other recollections of how I
showed up on the show? Did did you? Obviously were you?
I didn't have a court date. No, I haven't had
one of those coming from this pyramid rhino, I might have.
I mean, you got a dress for success I really
want to press the ladies smell like money. I don't

(16:28):
have a job, but I want to look like I
have a job. Someone to wear suits, my old suit.
It's like the guys and stepbrothers going to their thing
in tuxedos. I debated that made for our anniversary show.
I debated that for a moment. I really looked at
one of those tuxedo t shirts that they sell and
said it's a wasted money and just pushed that back

(16:51):
onto the rack. But yeah, long, long, strange road it's been.
I really don't know why I would have been in
a I don't know. I don't know why you're giving
away macarons, macaron's. Don't know why you were giving them away.
You had a big boxing of everybody. It was part
of his stick back down. He would bring us good.
He's when he would come in and hang out with
us for ten minutes. When I used to torment well,
because if I came for O'Brien and and heart ampartment,

(17:13):
I could come in and sit for the entire show
because they really just going on that, right, So you
would come in. But I wouldn't have worn a suit
just for that. So I don't know, I don't think
he would have brought macarouins. Those things taste like poop chock. No,
if you get good macarons, they're pretty good. Really, yeah,
you got You go to any other normal pastries better
than a macro to Botaga Louis Downtown l A and

(17:34):
you have a MACARONI usually brought pretty good pastries. And
it became a running bit with with p O B
and look, I was getting a lot. I get that
getting a lot that lot of time, but I don't
know what time. I don't know why the student time buddy,
I don't know why the students, and I just felt
like I wanted to wear I might have come from
doing a video hit. Wait, I was doing time. Did

(17:58):
our boss say, hey, Jason Smith is in tonight to
meet him, and you were a suit to meet me?
But I was doing Fox sports dot com stuff at
the time, so I might have worn a suit for
the video hit. Okay, we started that dumb process. Sorry,
it's dumb. Okay, we're talking about sports. You don't need
to be in a damn suit and tie. But I
would have to do that for fantasy football videos. You
had to do it over at NFL network didn't it said, yeah,

(18:22):
well you couldn't get couldn't find him the neck extendard.
I had a lot of we used to wear ties
at NFL and I was on Doesn't Count. I can't
tell you how many times I said, why are we
wearing ties? Crack of ties? We should have a cool
atmosphere on the show. Why are we wearing ties? You know?
And some of the guys like, no ties, it makes
you look legit. I'm like, okay, and now it's like

(18:43):
everybody doesn't wear ties. But anyway, Adam Ranks was never
tied enough, at least I don't. I don't get the
whole thing. Everybody loved ties, but I've never understood that.
But I would guess that that was where I was
before I came here, as that I did a video
hit and I came straight to the studio. But speaking
of you know, you want to a funny clothes story
NFL network, I'll tell you this, uh copy of six

(19:04):
years tonight? Tonight is that night to do that? Is
there are two or three guys on the show that
we're on the show that I'm still there, They're still
there that would always wear crazy socks, right They were
the I'm gonna wear crazy socks because I want to
stand out, And every time the show would start, they
would sit at such a ridiculous angle just to get

(19:25):
to get as much of the socks so so everybody
could see the socks they were wearing because they want
to be the irreverend cool guys. Oh, look at the socks.
I look, I'm wearing cool socks. You could trust me
to give out advice. I'm wearing cool socks. And I'm like,
I watched. I would go back and watch the show
and I would go, what the hell is that doing?
You're an Angels fan, You're not that cool. Well I'm
I'm not saying who it was, because there's actually other people,

(19:46):
but I'm like, okay, what what what are you guys doing? What? Why? Why?
You look like you're trying to like step on a
bug or you but your legs are crossed, like you
have to go to the bathroom and people. Yeah, it's like,
I just want to wear sucks now. I just remember
the suit up moments were always ridiculous. Something I railed Again,
Maybe that didn't help my cause overall. Maybe it's not

(20:08):
helping my cause now. To expand back into video platforms.
You're gonna meet Jason Smith tonight. You wear a bleeping suit, Harmon.
Do you even still on the suit? Probably not? Oh no,
I gotta I got a good racket clip. That suit's gone.
It's off the rack suit. I've lost a little weight
since that. It was one of those tear off suits.
It was you gotta have those that you just all.

(20:29):
I got. I got a good dance, I got a
good racket ties I got. I got a good I mean,
I can dress well when there's a reason to dress well.
I'm going up to look and stare at you. I'm sorry.
I don't know why you but you you're and I
don't know why you were. I was, I was amazed.
I'm like, why is this guy wearing a suit by
a radio? We literally did he works in radio? Why
is he wearing these things? Did you then go up

(20:51):
to the fourth floor after that day and be like,
I can't work with this guy? You know what? I
wouldn't have blamed you if you did. I mean you
and I literally, I think we did one segment together
when Fabriano flaked on you and they called me desperately
to show up, and we talked movies for ten minutes.
We didn't do anything right, right, right, right, and wow,

(21:14):
not doing a radio. Everyone'm gonna put a suit on.
I'm at home. I was probably not wearing pants. People
are gonna tell no, that's right. But the idea that
I came out and I remember hanging up the phone
going we didn't, dude, but a half a minute of football?
All right? Cool and went on with my day and
it was fine whatever. But lo and behold, here we

(21:34):
are starting year seven, yelling about the meaning of life
for functional monitors in front of us. Uh and a
lot of fun stories that we traversed like nobody else.
Can be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. It wouldn't be a night if we

(21:54):
didn't have a crazy story come out of nowhere that
none of us saw coming. And thank you to Kevin
Durant for supplying us with this. I would say, Kevin
Durant has too much time on his hands, but this
story would still come. He would still be doing the
same things if he was playing Durant, who, of course
not playing for the next this season rehabbing from his
tourn achilles is in a Twitter war shockingly with former

(22:18):
teammate Kendrick Perkins. And it all had to do with
Kendrick Perkins, who was an ESPN analyst, former NBA star,
NBA champion, who tweeted out, Hey, I'm going on TV
in a few minutes to talk about why I think
Russell Westbrook is the greatest Oklahoma City Thunder player of
all time. Remember the Thunder had Russell Westbrook, they had

(22:39):
k D and they had James Harden. So of course
here's you know, great hot topic radio coming out here,
Who's the best Oklahoma City Thunder player of all time?
So you have that, Sean Kemp. But come on, Sean,
Sean Kemp was grace Uh, probably a little too soon
for Shawn Kemp. So this is Kendrick Perkinson. I'm gonna
go out there and say, and obviously, tonight's a big
night Westbrook playing back in Oklahoma City wearing a T

(23:01):
shirt that says no Regrets. So it's you know, Westbrook
and saying, hey, I'm happy where I'm at right now.
But Kevin Durant could not leave that alone and decided, well,
if Kendrick Perkins is gonna tweet out that he's going
on TV to say that Russell Westbrook was the greatest
thunder player of all time. I gotta come back with something. Well,

(23:22):
now here to start it. Katie had already had his
lather worked up earlier in the day between Brandon Tierney
and a bunch of people on Twitter, because you've got
a winning streak from the nets, and well, nobody cares,
right losing streak, nobody cares. Basically trying to say nobody
cares about the Nets. So Kevin Durant, reality is you want.

(23:42):
You wanted me to do what you wanted me to do.
I didn't and now you feel some weird way about it.
Get over yourself. I know you've got a little platform,
but come out of the clouds. It's not real. Okay, cool.
So he's already all fired up. So then the Kendrick
Perkins thing starts. So someone responds, and Kadi's behalf um.

(24:02):
So you say someone responds apparently because it could be
a Katie burner. In was a guy named Mark Demiko
who is blue checkmark guy who managed the Celtics official team,
content writer, analysts, whatever job. So he throws up a
response to Perks, I'm gonna say it's Russell Westbrook. I say,

(24:24):
in best career within the organization, but he's definitely not
the best player to put a jersey on for them.
Come on, Perk, and Perk's he he left the door
open and Russ walked right in. So goes again. They
go back and forth another time, and Perkins goes, well,
Katie lost in the second round without Russ when I
was there, So what does it all mean? And Durant goes, yeah,
and our starting center averaged a whopping two and three

(24:46):
during that series. You've played hard, though, champ l O L.
That's pretty good. Right now, we're up to uh over
twenty three thousand likes, h and retweets. Perk comes back
over the top for stop. You did the weakest move
in NBA history up on a team three one in
the Western Conference final. Let me go join in the
following season. Heart of a champion, Right there, Durant comes

(25:11):
back again. Week is starting at center, playing real minutes
with no production. Sure to worked on your skills as
much as I did her back over the top. That's fine.
You worked that hard and still had to go join
a seventy three and nine. Team truth be told. You
don't he feel like a real champ capital c You
have a hard time sleeping at night, huh, knowing that
you took the coward way out, yo. Snap. And it

(25:35):
just keeps going and going, and then everybody else starts
coming in and he he did take the easy road.
And there's no question about it that one probably really chapped.
Katie's asked, Kevin Durant needs his own personal police force
to monitor these things on social media. And when they
see it, go to his house and bang on the

(25:55):
door and go Kevin Durant, put the phone down, put
the phone down, open the door, put your phone and down.
He can't stay away. Just Kevin Perkins, just Kendrick Perkins,
who wants to say something nice about Russell Westbrook. And
Katie is so chapped that anybody but him could be
the best player in Thunder history. Dude, let it go.

(26:18):
But this is Kevin Durant. He wants to get involved
with the knuckle headed stuff. This is so good though,
because immediately as people get wind of this and start
shining in, it's all the gifts you would come to expect. First,
there's the Kobe where he's, you know, just shaking his
head back and forth really fast, and all he's mouthing
is the words saw that Dwight Howard's face. Yeah, so

(26:39):
that one shows up repeatedly. The famous Simpsons when Homer
goes to Krusty College and then he kills the hamburglar.
Stop stuff, he's already dead. We got that, a couple
of prize fights. Uh k D dancing as part of
a warrior celebration, um, the Fred Rogers putting on the

(27:00):
clown mask, which is a famous one. And then there's
the the guy who's leaning back on a couch and
he grabs his popcorn and he kind of starts billing
the popcorn in his mouth. All of those have now
been used nine thousand times to describe, well, just how
badly k D warred here. We do have to give

(27:20):
Katie a lot of credit though. Tonight, Okay, he's finally
putting his name on it. He's not using a burner account.
This is big, big, But do you think he knows
that he's tweeting from his own account? He thinks he's
actually tweeting from one of his burner accounts. Could be
he could be tweeting from a niche man. He could
be tweeting from a burner account. This is the thing

(27:43):
about Kevin Durant. I don't know what makes him happy
because clearly he needs some kind of destiny outside of basketball,
because he never seems happy because he does a lot
of he does, but he but he gets caught in
with knuckle headed discussions like this. I'm sorry, one of

(28:04):
your former teammates thinks Russell Westbrook is a better player
in the Thunder than than you were. We're talking about
who was the best Thunder player, right, Obviously it's who
was the best player. No one's saying Russell wester is
a better player than Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant has the titles.
It's happened, but God forbid a guy say something. Kevin
Durant put the phone down. It's one guy's opinion, Like

(28:24):
he thinks that if Kendrick Perkins says this, the entire
rest of the world is gonna be like zombies and go, yes,
Westbrook best player on Thunder. Yes, But I want to
know in the origin and the beef now, because there
there's there's more stuff to this. This isn't jazz I mean,
I don't know about that. I think Westbrook was the

(28:47):
best player, if you know why because Westbrook at least
stayed as long as he could. And obvious Kendrick Perkins
has a thing with loyalty, right, because the first thing
he comes back if Kevin Durant is with you left
to join the Warriors, you jumped, You jumped, you jump, yeah,
and the easy way out right, And Westbrook stayed as
long as he could. Now did Westbrook take the way out? Sure,
but he did stay for ten years and it wasn't happening.

(29:09):
So then finally he jumped to a different team, and
as an organization, they were ready to decide, Hey, we're
only getting to point b you know in this configuration.
And what Kevin Durant has to realize is that you
are going to get criticized. Not everybody is going to
love you. Once Lebron James figured out I can't get

(29:29):
everybody to love me, because he tried that for a
long time and Kobe Bryant, that was that was the
one thing that chap that that got me upset with
the whole Lebron decision thing. It wasn't how he did it,
It was that he was surprised. Some people were mad
about it. Yeah, but because Kobe and Lebron wanted to
be Michael Jordan. They wanted that unadulterated love. People weren't

(29:51):
even bulls. Fans loved Michael Jordan. Nobody hated Michael Jordan.
It's an impossible thing to do in sports when you're
an icon is to not be polarizing. Messy is po lurizing.
I mean, no matter who you are, you're polarizing Jamal Adams.
But once Kobe and Lebron understood that we're just not
gonna win, and you can ignore people on social media

(30:14):
saying stupid things about you. Ignore it. There's no law
that says you have to get on social media and
say things. But they both realized, I I can't fight
this battle anymore about being loved. What happened Kobe started
winning championships. What happened to Lebron? He started going to
NBA finals and winning championships. Kevin Durant has yet to
realize that people are just gonna not like you. And

(30:37):
just because a hundred people could say something at you
on Twitter, that's a hundred people on Twitter. What are
you worried? About man, but he worries about stuff like that.
He worries about the knuckleheaded stuff like that. I guarantee
you he thought, I'm gonna go to Golden State, win
a couple of championships and everybody's gonna love me. And
what happened instead some people loved him, but there's a
lot of you had to go join the seventy three

(30:57):
win team. I Kevin Durant left, and not only did
he not anticipate that, but he's not okay with it.
People are just gonna hate you when you do something
creative for a living, whether you're on the radio, whether
you're on TV, whether you're a writer, whether you're a
basketball player, you're an NFL star, when you do something creative,
you're gonna have people that love you, and you're gonna
have people that don't like you and have critics, and

(31:19):
you gotta be okay with that. And Kevin Durant still isn't,
still isn't okay with that. He's he fights windmills. He's
like don Quixote. He wants to fight these imaginary battles
that don't mean anything just because oh KP said this
about me, And what do you fall victim too, because
I don't want to see people my timeline going, oh, man,
KP disrespected you that way, I don't want to talk
to friends the next day going, dude, you see what

(31:40):
KP tunted about you last night when he's got a
watch Sports Center. Man, that was I can't live with that. Apparently,
I have to make sure that I go back and
fight every battle so there's no opinion anywhere on the
Internet or elsewhere that isn't Kevin Durant is the best. Dude.
You gotta let that go. And I promise you if
Kevin Durant listening, he listens everywhere, if he's lists something,
I promise you you will be much happier once you

(32:03):
realize I can't please everybody and I just have to
let it go. You your whole, a whole new world
will open up to you on It doesn't mean I
don't love this story, because this story is really a
fantastic story, is really really funny. Just but that's the
thing for I was gonna send you over to give
him a hug. He needs to be hugged and just
told it's okay, it's okay to do you have critics,

(32:23):
you decided what was best for you. You want a
couple of rings, and you know you're always chasing that
next thing. That's fine. Maybe you'll never be happy, but
in this moment, just just get away from the keyboard.
You'll do something, Go watch you know, Russ or whatever
else you need to do tonight. It'll be okay. Be

(32:43):
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
Joining us now, I'm the hotline, a man who we're
gonna talk inside NFL things with. What I think I
want to start with is by asking Jake Lazer, Dude,

(33:04):
you're hanging out with Stallone and Pacino and Guy Fiery.
I mean, where's our invitation to coming out with you? Guys?
Hold to this story weeks ago, Colone, you've posted it
now again and he's you know, he's been up working
on like nineteen Rambos. I'm not a few weeks ago
when I brought so won't call me and he said, hey,
you wanna come and watch joshuas fighting my house, I'm like,

(33:28):
uh yeah, dude, you're rocky. Sure yeah, any chance your
friend Guy Fierry Ethantown because my daughters don't care a
lift about Rocky Ramble, but they love Garners, Drives and Dots,
and asked going out to weird dinner that night where
I put together cool you know, like I put together
crazy communities. And so I'm going out to dine night

(33:49):
here in l A at uh place named Isabel, my
buddy co Howard's place. How is going out with me?
Guy Fiery, Dave Batista, Michael McCarthy, Michael Strahan, my Little
Fighter Aba Night, and Nate Bowyer. Ok. Yeah, crazy there, right, bizarre.

(34:10):
So then I said, yeah, I'm actually going to dinner
with Kaye tonight something. So he goes, oh my gosh,
I call a guy, told me tell me you love me.
He goes, I love you. I gonna tell me you
love me. He says, why I love you? Said because
he wants to up you. Come want to come watch
you fight this out tomorrow. He goes, oh my gosh,
I'm supposed to go home and uh, I'm doing this
Food Network show. Let me come my wife. He calls
his wife. He shows, let me let me get this straight.

(34:32):
Do you have a chance to go with Glazier to
watch a boxing match at Stallone's house with Rocky at
his Austmark and he said, yeah, she says you're an
idiot if you come home tonight. So he tasked me, hey,
fight out for Stallan Who's I'm gonna come cook and
I'll make his daughters my shoe chefs. So find out

(34:52):
who's coming to give me the guest list and I'll cook.
So I call stone Up. I said, hey, listen, and
I know Stallone sply he comes Unbreakable. Uh love him.
He's great, he's hilarious. Obviously he's Rocky and you know
uh Ben Rambo and he's hilarious. We love him so
great for the Unbreakable performance culture. So um, so I
call him and said, hey, guys, gonna come be the

(35:14):
shoe chef thing a bunch of food and he goes
like you have to do. That's gonna get Bulbara Street
pizza and cold cutts. I'm like, dude, Scott Ferry Coney
rules were not having Mulbary Street pizza cold cuts coming out.
I said, how many people a is he cooking for?
He's gonna bring food? He goes on, it's me you Guy, Puccino, Schwartzenegger,

(35:35):
Sugar Ray Leather. I'm like, get the hell out of here.
And then I called Stray and I go, look, you're
taking meat everything, you know, all the Oscar stuff. So
I'm gonna take you here and then a rocky statue
at the end of it in Tinity Pool and like, straight,
we'll take a picture of you and Stray and pulled
me aside. He goes, hey, dude, you pulled up some

(35:55):
stuff before in the past, but nothing like this. I'm like,
trust me, dude, I know, Like, mom, how the heck
did I get here? And Guy ends up bringing about
six thousand dollars in Kobe beef that he cooked and
a thousand dollars from White and then and then David
Blaine came over and did magic for everybody. Well that

(36:19):
sounds like a night. Hey, I've got no idea what
called my Instagram? I have a bunch of stuff on there.
I have no one that watched the loan decide tonight
to post it. I just uh, I just texted him
something about it too. No idea why next time that happens?
If Guy has to stay, I can go host guys
grocery games. Because I watch every episode. All right, I

(36:39):
can host troubles. I could do meals from the middle,
whatever you want. My friends and I were all morons,
as he can tell. But you know we work our
bucks off work the world. That's why I appreciate him.
Whatever you want about guy if here, he outworks the
world how it works everybody, which is why he is
where he is. And he's as genuine as told be.
He takes me in the Pebble Beach watch ask you

(37:00):
to go, and I think he's like, I'm taking my
favorite bar ever and we land our favorite restaurant. It's
a private club place and it's literally like the raccooned
lots from the Honeymoon. And he was like, how great
is this place? And there's a server like mister brow
and Schlitz and like, I'm dead, sirs. And I was

(37:23):
his spot. He loved it with his place. That's him
Jay Glazer with us here the Jason Smith Show in
Mike Harman that that I don't know where to go
with it. We gotta talk football now we can't. We
can't get paid. I mean that's like a drop the
mic moment for you, um so again, check out you
on Instagram, on Twitter and stallone on Instagram posting all
this stuff right now, uh, from the past couple of weeks. Alright,

(37:45):
so football wise, Jay obviously, I mean, I'm just thinking
about guy. But Tom Brady, everybody's weighing in. He puts
out the post speaking of Instagram yesterday, basically thanking the
fans for all his time in New England. Where are
things right now as far as Brady Patriots in their relationship, Well,
I think that you know, this is the first time
he's ever free because they can't. He's only give a

(38:07):
hometown discounts, and I don't think he wants to give
a hometown discount this time. I think all these years
he's like, yo, and I've always done right by them.
Let them do right by me now. Um. And you
know he's always been certainly not the whole yet he
should be. Um. They can't franchise tag him, so he is,
without a doubt an unrestricted free agent if they don't

(38:28):
re sign him. But you know, I said with teams people,
some people said, well, you know, he can go somewhere
with Josh mc daniels. Well, there was only one place
without a quarterback in that Panthers. It's not They're not
going to go to Cleveland and get rid of Baker, Okay,
if Josh mc daniels goes there. So the only thing
I could see is, you know, I think we've all

(38:49):
heard it. A team like the Chargers who needs to
boost their attendance, A team like the Raiders, if they
go to Vegas, they do some of those seats. Makes
an awful lot of sense. You say to him, Tom,
uh you tell us for the offense is, and here's
the checkbook, and you fill it out and just however
many comments you want to put in there, you put
in there. And he still, I mean, Tom Brady is

(39:10):
still that will be one of the biggest draws we've
ever seen. Now, and let me just put it in
a little perspective here. When Peyton Manning was a free agent,
the reason why he chose the Broncos or Brothers one
was the relationship with John fox and Too because they
were compient buddies. La it wasn't it was him and
Foxy and and to um the other teams. I remember

(39:33):
winning the Titans and then the offense community made them
like Chris Palmer's And he said, Peyton here's the offense
you want to you know, take a look at this
study up in the suit decent and Peton was trying
to remember we ab at that point for the next
and he went into the Broncos and Bronco said, hey,
we know you put a hundred percent of everything you do,
so we're assuming you're gonna put a hundred percent into
your reab. So you tell us what the offense is.

(39:55):
We don't need you to spend any time learning a
new offense. And that's what Peyton you here. Yes, I said,
all my time we have and getting myself right, I
know the offense. So whoever takes Tom Brady really should
consider doing the exact same thing. Well as we we'll
have the quarterback carousel spinning. But the coaching stop you
mentioned Cleveland, that's the last one with an opening. Is

(40:16):
McDaniel's gonna end up being the guy? How wide open
is their net because they're not competing with anybody anymore.
They are over the map, and it's it's by the day,
by the hour, by the minute. You know. When some
candidates went in there, they have a list of about
twelve now I think general manager candidates to two candidates

(40:37):
about that and you we're gonna have to help you
pick out the GM um. And then other guys went
in there and didn't even show on the list. So
they constantly or you know, talking to teams they want
to interview your guys for GM and they're saying, wow,
we don't. They're all over the place. There's not they
don't have a direction, they don't have a conviction of

(40:58):
what they want to do, and I think that's in
the problem with the Browns for a long time. You
can follow on Twitter at jay Glazer. That is at
jay Glazer. Uh maybe the new Twitter account The Adventures
of Jay Glazer. Now that's gonna be a reality show.
We're working on that also at Unbreakable checkout vets and
Players dot org. J as always man appreciate it. Uh
sayid a guy for me. We'll talk to you next week.

(41:19):
And a happy birthday to night of course, Jake, care
Ja
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