January 14, 2020 • 26 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react live as Joe Burrow leads LSU to a decisive victory over Clemson in the College Football National Championship and explain why this was the greatest season ever by a college football QB. LSU WR Terrace Marshall Jr. jumps on afterwards to talk about catching the last TD from Burrow. Jason vents his frustration for Tim Tebow not making the top 10 of the greatest college football players of all time and the guys recap the Astros debacle and explain why Rob Manfred didn't want to vacate any World Series titles.
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L s U is the first SEC team to finish
the season fifteen and oh and this is what it
sounded like for the L s U Tigers, the countdown
to a championship. Joe Burrow again, the snap the knee,
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and the Tigers of L s U, a team of
destiny and a team for ages, celebrate on the field
here tonight in New Orleans inside the Superdome, capturing the
national title and snapping a twenty nine game win streak
for Tabo Sweenie and Clemson final horn sounds. It's in
the books, Bikers win. They are the national champions with
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a win tonight over Clemson. Two and there you have
an L s U. A radio network on the call.
And that's what it was like l s U wins
and something we got into a few minutes ago. People
had a chance to take a deep breath and to
continue on with what we're talking about here. And this
is not you know, hey, Green Bay Packers should pay
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people to shove up more to shovel Snow, take Joe
Burrow tonight against Clemson, five more touchdowns and when you
think of the totality and break down what he accomplished
this year, there is no quarterback in the history of
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college football that has had a better season than Joe Burrow.
And this is not prisoner of the moment. This is
just going by sheer numbers they've produced and what the
end result for the team was. All Right, you can do.
Colt Brennan had the old record for touchdowns in the
season shattered and Colt Brennan played for Hawaii where they
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threw the ball Chang was again right through. This is
an sec schedule that Joe Burrow was able to throw
sixty touchdowns against. You want to say, well, some of
those teams stunk, well, yeah, in college football, every good
team plays some games against teams that stink. I mean,
nobody plays eleven games a twelve game gauntlet. You play
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against some teams at stink, then you play against some
teams that are really good, and it didn't matter because
Joe Burrow was great against the teams that stunk. He
was great against the teams that were good. There's no
other way to cut this up. Nobody has thrown for
sixty touchdowns, agast sixty touchdowns this season. He's also ran
for four. Oh by the way, so make it sixty
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four touchdowns for Joe Burrow. Overa talk about total touchdowns.
But sixty touchdowns passing six interceptions tend to one touchdown
interception ratio against SEC defenses with future NFL stars on it.
Fifty yards passing the shorter than a rushing touchdown because
he had one tonight five because then we get the
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King Kong Bundy five five. But yeah, you mentioned that
the schedule and people go through. Okay, go pick any
other great season in a player's history. Just for giggles,
I pull up Lebar Jackson. He played at Louisville. I
don't need to expand extend that, do I know? We
look at Tebow and what he did as as a
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member of the Gators and the what they had to
do for Joe Burrow down the stretch. You're talking about
three wins over top five teams to close this thing out,
to finish a perfect season, to get the hat trick,
all of that as he gets ready to go and
accept the trophy, and they've got the mock ups of
the newspaper rolling around and everything. But it's just the
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the idea of what he was able to accomplish while
completing seventy of his passes. All right, I'm rounding up
because it's a nice nice number seventies seven point six
going into tonight, and even after some early struggles, even
after the rib shot, just kept going, still calling running plays.
After taking that shot, right, he was he was moving
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a little gingerly on that first possession, as we chronicled
earlier in the show, but clearly he was shook it off.
I don't know if he got to the medical tentton
and got a little something to help help him get
through the end of the game, whatever the case was,
but suddenly started throwing the ball down field making plays.
Think about the one that Chase let drop, right, I mean,
that was an that would have had another thirty two
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yard touchdown pass on that drive. So you know, for
Joe Burrow, they I'm usually not a hype man. I'm
usually the one trying to look at where there's there's
cracks in the arsenal. We sure as hell didn't see
him in this college football season. Well, and I'll take
it a step further from Joe Burrow. Is this the
most dominant season we've seen from a college ball team?
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Every Now this becomes a better, a bigger conversation because
many teams have gone undefeated, blown teams out wire to
wire and and and done it in that case, and
now suddenly you're looking at Joe Burrow versus other quarterbacks.
It's well, you can't find what these guys have done
in a season. There there's nobody close to what Burrow
is able to accomplish. This is more of a conversation
because you've had teams twelve, fourteen and oh, l s
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you did it. They beat eight teens or seven teams
that were ranked in the top ten. Again SEC schedule
fifteen and oh not twelve and oh which is great? Leven?
Oh is great? Is great? This is fifteen? And oh
all right? Texas, Florida, Auburn Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson.
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That's pretty that's a pretty big murderers row of teams
that you beat over the course of the season. Now,
is Texas a top ten team? No, but they were
when they played. And this is still like I said
in sec schedule, that is more of a conversation. But
this is right. I mean, I have to say this
has got to be in the top three or top
five all time right away. Very important now to point
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out you can go listen to more of us yelling
at each other. Uh in podcast form are special teams
podcast because we've gone through a couple of these teams.
Right You look at USC, the juggernaut that was. We've
talked about that Texas team and Vince Young. Sorry to
bring it up again, USC fans, but you gotta wear
it tonight. You're gonna keep wearing it. Uh No, no, no, no, no, no,
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Vince Young's retired. It's okay. Uh, go on through. You've
got I mean, USC litters a lot of those early
early notes. When you start going through a list of
great teams. You've got ninety five Nebraska, you got last
year's Clemsons team that went fifteen, and oh mac Brown.
We talked about that squad and just keep going on
down the Miami team of all those years ago. Right
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when you're looking at Miami, you go to that Washington squad.
I mean, there's a lot of teams and just I mean,
unlike every other poll that gets done, I mean, I'm
talking to the last thirty years for all these squads
because you know, I have film that I can watch
to see how dominant they were. But the way they
navigated this schedule, particularly final three four games, I mean,
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that's really where it's at because they weren't just wins,
they were convincing wins. And this one started out slowly.
We're like, all right, what are we gonna get? And
then they still put up forty two. Be sure to
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s U wins the national title. They blow past Clemson.
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Joe Burrow throws five touchdowns, including one to the man
who joins us now on the hotline, light out Teras
Marshall Junior Terris Congratulations, all right, how does it feel?
You're a national champion. What's going through here? I worked
in but his t and all that things that was
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overcome and uh, hey, have you heard your the play
by play call off your touchdown? You want to hear it? Uh? Sure,
all right, go ahead, play it, snap back, Joe has it,
looks launches towards the end zone a Justine Terriss Marshall
goes up, pulls it down, touchdown l s u yard
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touchdown pass. Had another to Joe Burrow. Give Terris Marshall
his first reception for a touchdown tonight. And now you
can make that your ringtone on your phone. Oh yeah,
I probably will if I can get it. You're the
man with the last one. You're the record center, so
forever you're linked in the history books. That's that's that's
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I mean, work on scrout group. Hey, when a game
got to halftime, the third touchdown by Burrow, he get
he takes a big hit, comes off. It looked like
he kind of wasn't himself early in the third quarter
with did you notice was he a little bit different
whether it was a rib or or an arm that
because he got hit big time on that touchdown pass?
Oh no, I mean, I mean things happening in the
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game on me. Everything can't be perfect. So I didn't
really Uh, I already expected him to bounce back like
the person, like the player he is. Uh So I
mean I don't really think, you know, not just kill playing.
Terence Marshall Jr. Of the victorious national champion l s
U Tigers join a guest here on Fox Sports Radio.
Terence with the completion percentage right, he's up at seventy.
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How much pressure do you feel to make a play
every time that ball comes your way? After? No, person,
I mean I was going to do this and this
is what I worked off. Was there a point in
the game that you guys knew you were gonna win?
Uh from the beginning? Yeah, that's my guy. I like
that answer. What's the end of a pregame pep talk
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from aroeron, Like, Oh, we gotta go out there and
uh just play sixty minutes to us? Uh, Um, we
can't win a game in the first, second, third, or
third quarter. So uh, you're out there and we draw
always to the full quarter to the closing. Now you're
from Louisiana, doesn't mean extra to you to win, stay
home and and go and win the National championship. It
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was real especial. I mean to just be able to
come home and just win another simms from the home
crowd and uh well honest left to like anyone would
have played a special alright, So tell me what what's
the big celebration like tonight for you? I mean, we're
gonna party. Well, you do have tomorrow off right? No classes?
As I saw you posting up on social media. No class?
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We go Paul Night, all right, so so Bourbon Street.
So so what is it? Tell me so I can
look for you guys. I don't even know where we're going.
I didn't know we're not gonna be in the hotel
Tervis Marshall Jr. A big game tonight, the big touchdown
l s U the National champions Thanks so much for
stopping by this man appreciated, enjoy the night. Thanks a
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great stuff there from him. When did you know you're
gonna win? The beginning of the game, right right right
in the beginning, we knew we were gonna win. At
next What do you got next for it? I was
born for this. I made some great answer. He's on it.
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pm Pacific. The ESPN survey for the best hundred and
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fifty college football players of all time was completed, and
at halftime, ESPN introduced the players who were the top
eleven on that list, And obviously some of them are
no longer with us. You had Red Grange's cousin, right,
who how is that? The woman was young? How is
that Red Granges cousin? I didn't understand? And everything cousin
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by another. So the lists go, let's go through the
life of Red Grange. I'll do that while you talk.
The list goes like this for the top eleven of
the hundred and fifty players, and you watch law of
them come out and waved everybody. Was a great moment.
Roger Stallback is number eleven, Gayl Sayers, number ten, Barry
Sanders number nine, Dick but Kiss number eight, to be,
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Earl Campbell number seven, Red Grange number six. Right, So
that's eleven through six, Stallbacks, Sayers, Barry Sanders, but Kiss,
Earl Campbell, Red Grange. Now you get Now you get
to the top five. It's Jim thorpe Archie Griffin, Bo Jackson,
Herschel Walker and Syracuse No Slovs, Syracuse Jim Brown best
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college football player, Slovis is a he's number twelve. Did
they include his lacrosse stats? What do we want to
have to lacrosse man? I mean, my man's got to
hus number four. He didn't really do a lot and
didn't really do anything in the pros. I mean, I
know they gave Bo Jackson a Heisman the undeservedly when
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it should have been Chuck Longs. But stop pumping up
for the beast. You have no claim to Iowa. You're
a Northwestern guy. A close vote, the closest vote. But
here's my big thing with this list. I gave you
that list right there, and outside of Dick Butkus, everybody's
basically running back Roger Stallbacks number eleven. So what you're
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telling me is Roger stall Back is the best quarterback
in college football history. Okay, tell me nobody. Who's the
most recent? Bo Jackson? You're telling me that, right, yeah,
Bo Jackson. All the great players we have had, there's
not one in the quote modern era of college football
play Sanders, Barry Sanders. I mean, you can get those
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nine beautiful green score, rookie guards and and Dion Sanders
and Troy Aikman. Not that you wanted to be prisoner
of the moment and say everybody's coming from the past
fifteen or twenty years. We gotta put Ricky Williams on
the list. We got to that. But the big issue
I have. You have Roger stall back at No. Bar
eleven when you're talking about college football, and he's the
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best college football player I've seen in the modern era,
a guy that won two national championships, a Heisman Trophy
and senior year when twelve and oh in the regular season,
Tim Tebow has to be on this list, in the
top five, if not in the top three. You're talking
about the top college football players of all time. Stop that, Like,
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forget about the pros, forget about whatever reality shows Tebow's doing,
forget about proposing to his fiance and a gazebo on
an island that's named for him. Jesus Christ, take everything
else out of it. Tim Tebow, what he accomplished as
a college football player. Nobody has that resume. Nobody's got
that resume. Heisman Trophy, to national championships, twelve and oh,
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records senior year, along with numerous quarterback awards. Best Quarterback
in the Country Award three times. What else does he?
What else the guy need to do? I mean, I
feel like that's a backlash, and specifically people don't whoever
voted didn't want to give it to Tebow. No, I'm
not putting Teabo on the list the best quarter So
I get them to show up and wave and wave. Now,
screw Tebow. I'm not gonna put him on that list.
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When Tebow really is the best college football player I've
seen in the modern era. Here's number seventies six. That's
where he belongs. That's the problem. That is just insane
because we're talking as this game gets hyped, right, and
Joe Burrow with the year that he's had, talking about
single season, one of the the great single seasons we've
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ever seen in college football for Trevor Lawrence was what
he's done. If he wins tonight and then he's still
got to come back for one more year and if
they have another fantastic run, who's he being compared to
be compared to the career that Tebow had? HM? Right,
I mean, that's the guy you bring up, You don't
bring up any of these other guys. Dan Marino's ahead
of him. I mean, peyton Man didn't win anything. Pass
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for a lot of yarns. They won the National Championship
the year after the worst team Martin. Where's Team Martin
on the list of greatest college football players of all time?
And I I don't mean it needs to be everybody
from the past twenty thirty years. But the most you're
telling me, nobody from the last thirty years is good
enough to be in the top ten greatest college football
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players of all time. Tebow seventy six, Um Manning is fifty,
Jack Tatum, you got Jim Plunkett. Uh, just keep on going.
Eddie George, I love Eddie George of the Right Leaf
just had one big year. I got that saying this
is an ESPN poll. This is this is this is
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ESPN ran a a poll for the greatest players in
college football history and ESPN survey media members, college administrators,
former players, and coaches. The greatest part about it is
Tebow works for ESPN. Yeah. Well, I mean that's the
thing that's the most surprising of it all. It knocking
on everybody's doors. He walks down the Hallway, Hey, vote
for me, right, okay, great? Hey vote for me? Okay,
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Hey Norby, Hey great, vote for me. Great, Thanks, appreciate.
That's the thing that doesn't make any sense. You think
he would get like entry music, like he was a
w w E superstar. Hey, Jesse Palmer, Yeah, can you
get enough time off that food Baking Championship show and
vote for me? Okay? Great? Thanks? This guys finished seven six.
Vote for me. I mean, really of the modern era
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of the impact on the game, and this is where
it's good we get to remember the impact that he
had because it was still just you know, seven eight
years ago. He had an impact unlike anybody on the
sporter college football. And it's not like he was someone
well he just won. He didn't really know. I mean,
he won and he put up the stats. I mean
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Tebow did what I mean, it's not like he's well
he had twelve touchdowns. No, No, that that's not. That's
not Tim Tebow. That's not that's not anything that he
had to do. He was He was a guy responsible
for over thirty touchdowns. He was a guy that responsible
for all kinds of offense. He won every single award
you could possibly think of as a quarterback in calle
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edge football. I I really I I don't understand. He
threw for thirty two touchdowns in two thousand seven, thirty
touchdowns in two thousand eight, right, he had ten interceptions
total in those two seasons. And then running the football
he was up near a thousand yards and all three
of those seasons, and his touchdowns were twelve, fourteen and
twenty three. The guy did everything, He did everything. He
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accounted for fifty touchdowns a year, two out of his
three years. And you talk about what he won and
what he what he did those three years as a starter.
I I don't know how he's left off in the
top ten and how he comes in at seventy six.
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pm Pacific. The Astros are penalized by Major League Baseball.
Rob Manford completes his investigation into the allegations the Astros
were using electronic means to steal signs in two thousand
seventeen when they won the World Series. And this is
a developing story because other people are involved that are
no longer with the Astros. You have met Sox manager
Alex Cora. You have Carlos Beltrand. The Mets can't even
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give the Astros a day. No, this is a huge
mess and the Mets don't know. We want part of it. No,
let's just leave it to the Actros. No, no, we
want to own this part of it. Beltrand the only
two people mentioned by name in the whole sign stealing
where Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran gotta have mentioned by
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name in this This was gonna be a eight men
out kind of situation where you'd have two guys going
I didn't see any signs I hit three thirty eight
on my own, or I hit one oh five. You
think I was stealing sides? Nobody cares about your batty.
But this story is just insane. I mean, it's like
a class action lawsuit because you have the Dodgers, who
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you can say, boy, now, depending on what Alex Cora did,
did he bring this to the Red Sox when when
he came there to manage they're looking at maybe two parades.
Frostberg's got a whole city block blocked off Dodge. I
had to bring him some lawn chair. The Yankees are mad.
The Yankees are already intimating that they lost a chance
of the World Series because of this. I want, I
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want the Royals in two thousand fifteen to be investigating
just because. But think about all the revenue lost, think
about the reputations lost, right, all these Dodger players, and
think about Clayton Kershaw. I mean, how many times have
you seen the mock up of Choker? All right? I
mean there was a lot of stuff that fell out.
It's not like he was lights out in the playoffs before.
And I'm not saying that, Hey, everybody, everybody had, but
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you everybody. The Cardinals had the signs. Everybody had. The
Cardinals had cheaters that were in house from their time
with the show, all their their scouting information. That was
a guy with the Cardinals at worked for the Astros.
So it all plays together. Sad they had the signs
every game. When it comes down to this, right, and
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we have the firings after the year long suspensions are announced,
it still puts a pretty low price on a championship.
Five million bucks, a couple of draft picks. Screw the
draft picks. Also, they're fired. Your GM. Your your GM
got suspended. So did your manager and then they were fired.
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Well here's the thing, and I get it because should
they have taken the title away from the Astros. Yes,
they should have because that would show baseball is not
messing around. And this is something that can't continue because
this is fabric of the game. This is not just
dealing signs. This is we're going through an elaborate electronics
scheme to relay signs into the dugout. And of all
the different angles on this story that you know one
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I want to get to tonight because listen, everything we
have going on the National Championship Game is going to
take over his well in the NFL. Just kill it,
is it? I I understand why I disagree, but I
get why because if Rob Manfred just decides to vacate
the World Series, right, he vacates World Series, it's the
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right thing to do because the clearly by this punishment,
you know, they gain in some kind of incredible advantage,
like when you know what kind of pitch is coming,
that's a big advantage. But he's saying, I'm not making
my legacy, Rob Manfred, commissioner who stripped the ashes of
the World Series. I'm not making such a negative headline.
What people remember me for his commissioner Major League Baseball
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not doing it because he saw what happened with Bud Sealing.
What can you say about Bud Sealing? Oh yeah, he
was commission when there was no World Series. I remember,
I remember when. But now you're the commissioner. Doesn't matter,
this is different, doesn't matter. He he does not want
to be the because he knows that's to be the hero.
That's I don't think he would be. He's Signy Houston.
He I would be. I'm the guy that realized I'm
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the guy that had to punish my own league because
we couldn't do the right thing. I I I didn't
have enough oversight on these teams, even though there were
reports of the astro stealing signs and we knew I
did not have enough oversight the other way, right, this
is a come up. This is a black guy for baseball,
and I'm not going to be the commissioner that this
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becomes synonymous with. I want a positive I want a
positive reputation. I but that's why he's I'm gonna do
this because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be that commissioner. Look,
I remember when Bud Sealing when they canceled the World
Series and I was working for ESPNS production assistant and
they had a big press conference officially to make the
they couldn't play anymore and it was canceled, and Bud
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Sealing the first part of the press scotts, Okay, everybody
saw the press release, so let's talk about what's next.
He wasn't gonna be the commissioner to say, well, as
you can see, the World Series has been canceled. He
wasn't gonna be then, so they could play that SoundBite
forever and ever, and even in he knew if I'm
I don't want to be the guy to even say
the World Series has been canceled. I don't want to
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do that, and I'm gonna hopefully try to avoid that.
You know that he didn't wouldn't say it. You see,
here's the announcement. Now, now let's talk about it. And
he talked about what was next and labor and nobody
cared at that point because it was just all. The
World Series was over. It was a great regular season.
I was ready for that White Sox Exposed series would
have been that would have been a lowly high rated
World Series. But that's the same thing for Rob Manfred.
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He knows he can't go away from this. So what
do I do? I punish the people at the very
highest point of this, which is the general manager and
the manager and the GM. Apparently there was no evidence
he found that Luo knew. A J Hinch said he
kind of knew and tried to get them to stop,
which is where Dick JJ Hinches. Yeah, he's hit. He
broke two monitors. No, you're the guy that controls the
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club eyes. You controlled every aspect of it, Luo. The
same thing athletics guys. Yeah, but you know that's a
variable we just didn't recognize. Come on, but that But
that's the thing is that if you try to get
it all done at the top in one fell swoop.
This is why he didn't announce penalties for Bell transits.
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While we're waiting on Alex Core, I'm penalizing the guys
at the top, and that's it, and and then we're done.
I have a big I have a big scandal here,
and not realizing that there's still gonna be questions. And
all he did was empower people to say, hey, let's
let Pete Rose and all the other cheaters in the
Hall of Fame. Now it took one a half hour
after we finded all the players who were involved in
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this aren't getting any kind of repercussions against them and
not responsible for any of it. In a half hour,
it was let's let all these cheaters in the Hall
of Fame. I mean, Rob manfred In, trying to preserve
his own legacy, has really just thrown out a punishment
that doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, no,
no suspensions to the players. I was hoping they'd have
all have to be pushed that. Really, the international money
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is where I thought they'd get hammered. Right, forget about
draft picks. Cares about that. It's being able to use
a giant pool of cash to go sign players from
overseas that aren't part and privy to the draft. But
in the end, you you made it pretty easy to say,
all right, here's the blueprint. We'll slap you on the wrist.
A couple of your exacts might get fired, but is
it worth it. Yeah, I would say it was worth it.
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If you're the Houston Astros. Screw that. Well, now they
get to keep your World Series. Now you can to
keep your world series. Okay, all those guys are gonna
make fifty seventy five bucks of pop and autograph shows
for the next years. I like how you're worried about
the you're worried about the guys that need to make
money at autograph shows. I like how you want to
add and he's looking up. I'm gonna keep getting paid.
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L s U is the first SEC team to finish
the season fifteen and oh and this is what it
sounded like for the L s U Tigers, the countdown
to a championship. Joe Burrow again, the snap the knee,
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and the Tigers of L s U, a team of
destiny and a team for ages, celebrate on the field
here tonight in New Orleans inside the Superdome, capturing the
national title and snapping a twenty nine game win streak
for Tabo Sweenie and Clemson final horn sounds. It's in
the books, Bikers win. They are the national champions with
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a win tonight over Clemson. Two and there you have
an L s U. A radio network on the call.
And that's what it was like l s U wins
and something we got into a few minutes ago. People
had a chance to take a deep breath and to
continue on with what we're talking about here. And this
is not you know, hey, Green Bay Packers should pay
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people to shove up more to shovel Snow, take Joe
Burrow tonight against Clemson, five more touchdowns and when you
think of the totality and break down what he accomplished
this year, there is no quarterback in the history of
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college football that has had a better season than Joe Burrow.
And this is not prisoner of the moment. This is
just going by sheer numbers they've produced and what the
end result for the team was. All Right, you can do.
Colt Brennan had the old record for touchdowns in the
season shattered and Colt Brennan played for Hawaii where they
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threw the ball Chang was again right through. This is
an sec schedule that Joe Burrow was able to throw
sixty touchdowns against. You want to say, well, some of
those teams stunk, well, yeah, in college football, every good
team plays some games against teams that stink. I mean,
nobody plays eleven games a twelve game gauntlet. You play
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against some teams at stink, then you play against some
teams that are really good, and it didn't matter because
Joe Burrow was great against the teams that stunk. He
was great against the teams that were good. There's no
other way to cut this up. Nobody has thrown for
sixty touchdowns, agast sixty touchdowns this season. He's also ran
for four. Oh by the way, so make it sixty
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four touchdowns for Joe Burrow. Overa talk about total touchdowns.
But sixty touchdowns passing six interceptions tend to one touchdown
interception ratio against SEC defenses with future NFL stars on it.
Fifty yards passing the shorter than a rushing touchdown because
he had one tonight five because then we get the
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King Kong Bundy five five. But yeah, you mentioned that
the schedule and people go through. Okay, go pick any
other great season in a player's history. Just for giggles,
I pull up Lebar Jackson. He played at Louisville. I
don't need to expand extend that, do I know? We
look at Tebow and what he did as as a
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member of the Gators and the what they had to
do for Joe Burrow down the stretch. You're talking about
three wins over top five teams to close this thing out,
to finish a perfect season, to get the hat trick,
all of that as he gets ready to go and
accept the trophy, and they've got the mock ups of
the newspaper rolling around and everything. But it's just the
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the idea of what he was able to accomplish while
completing seventy of his passes. All right, I'm rounding up
because it's a nice nice number seventies seven point six
going into tonight, and even after some early struggles, even
after the rib shot, just kept going, still calling running plays.
After taking that shot, right, he was he was moving
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a little gingerly on that first possession, as we chronicled
earlier in the show, but clearly he was shook it off.
I don't know if he got to the medical tentton
and got a little something to help help him get
through the end of the game, whatever the case was,
but suddenly started throwing the ball down field making plays.
Think about the one that Chase let drop, right, I mean,
that was an that would have had another thirty two
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yard touchdown pass on that drive. So you know, for
Joe Burrow, they I'm usually not a hype man. I'm
usually the one trying to look at where there's there's
cracks in the arsenal. We sure as hell didn't see
him in this college football season. Well, and I'll take
it a step further from Joe Burrow. Is this the
most dominant season we've seen from a college ball team?
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Every Now this becomes a better, a bigger conversation because
many teams have gone undefeated, blown teams out wire to
wire and and and done it in that case, and
now suddenly you're looking at Joe Burrow versus other quarterbacks.
It's well, you can't find what these guys have done
in a season. There there's nobody close to what Burrow
is able to accomplish. This is more of a conversation
because you've had teams twelve, fourteen and oh, l s
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you did it. They beat eight teens or seven teams
that were ranked in the top ten. Again SEC schedule
fifteen and oh not twelve and oh which is great? Leven?
Oh is great? Is great? This is fifteen? And oh
all right? Texas, Florida, Auburn Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson.
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That's pretty that's a pretty big murderers row of teams
that you beat over the course of the season. Now,
is Texas a top ten team? No, but they were
when they played. And this is still like I said
in sec schedule, that is more of a conversation. But
this is right. I mean, I have to say this
has got to be in the top three or top
five all time right away. Very important now to point
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out you can go listen to more of us yelling
at each other. Uh in podcast form are special teams
podcast because we've gone through a couple of these teams.
Right You look at USC, the juggernaut that was. We've
talked about that Texas team and Vince Young. Sorry to
bring it up again, USC fans, but you gotta wear
it tonight. You're gonna keep wearing it. Uh No, no, no, no, no, no,
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Vince Young's retired. It's okay. Uh, go on through. You've
got I mean, USC litters a lot of those early
early notes. When you start going through a list of
great teams. You've got ninety five Nebraska, you got last
year's Clemsons team that went fifteen, and oh mac Brown.
We talked about that squad and just keep going on
down the Miami team of all those years ago. Right
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when you're looking at Miami, you go to that Washington squad.
I mean, there's a lot of teams and just I mean,
unlike every other poll that gets done, I mean, I'm
talking to the last thirty years for all these squads
because you know, I have film that I can watch
to see how dominant they were. But the way they
navigated this schedule, particularly final three four games, I mean,
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that's really where it's at because they weren't just wins,
they were convincing wins. And this one started out slowly.
We're like, all right, what are we gonna get? And
then they still put up forty two. Be sure to
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s U wins the national title. They blow past Clemson.
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Joe Burrow throws five touchdowns, including one to the man
who joins us now on the hotline, light out Teras
Marshall Junior Terris Congratulations, all right, how does it feel?
You're a national champion. What's going through here? I worked
in but his t and all that things that was
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overcome and uh, hey, have you heard your the play
by play call off your touchdown? You want to hear it? Uh? Sure,
all right, go ahead, play it, snap back, Joe has it,
looks launches towards the end zone a Justine Terriss Marshall
goes up, pulls it down, touchdown l s u yard
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touchdown pass. Had another to Joe Burrow. Give Terris Marshall
his first reception for a touchdown tonight. And now you
can make that your ringtone on your phone. Oh yeah,
I probably will if I can get it. You're the
man with the last one. You're the record center, so
forever you're linked in the history books. That's that's that's
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I mean, work on scrout group. Hey, when a game
got to halftime, the third touchdown by Burrow, he get
he takes a big hit, comes off. It looked like
he kind of wasn't himself early in the third quarter
with did you notice was he a little bit different
whether it was a rib or or an arm that
because he got hit big time on that touchdown pass?
Oh no, I mean, I mean things happening in the
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game on me. Everything can't be perfect. So I didn't
really Uh, I already expected him to bounce back like
the person, like the player he is. Uh So I
mean I don't really think, you know, not just kill playing.
Terence Marshall Jr. Of the victorious national champion l s
U Tigers join a guest here on Fox Sports Radio.
Terence with the completion percentage right, he's up at seventy.
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How much pressure do you feel to make a play
every time that ball comes your way? After? No, person,
I mean I was going to do this and this
is what I worked off. Was there a point in
the game that you guys knew you were gonna win?
Uh from the beginning? Yeah, that's my guy. I like
that answer. What's the end of a pregame pep talk
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from aroeron, Like, Oh, we gotta go out there and
uh just play sixty minutes to us? Uh, Um, we
can't win a game in the first, second, third, or
third quarter. So uh, you're out there and we draw
always to the full quarter to the closing. Now you're
from Louisiana, doesn't mean extra to you to win, stay
home and and go and win the National championship. It
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was real especial. I mean to just be able to
come home and just win another simms from the home
crowd and uh well honest left to like anyone would
have played a special alright, So tell me what what's
the big celebration like tonight for you? I mean, we're
gonna party. Well, you do have tomorrow off right? No classes?
As I saw you posting up on social media. No class?
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We go Paul Night, all right, so so Bourbon Street.
So so what is it? Tell me so I can
look for you guys. I don't even know where we're going.
I didn't know we're not gonna be in the hotel
Tervis Marshall Jr. A big game tonight, the big touchdown
l s U the National champions Thanks so much for
stopping by this man appreciated, enjoy the night. Thanks a
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great stuff there from him. When did you know you're
gonna win? The beginning of the game, right right right
in the beginning, we knew we were gonna win. At
next What do you got next for it? I was
born for this. I made some great answer. He's on it.
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pm Pacific. The ESPN survey for the best hundred and
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fifty college football players of all time was completed, and
at halftime, ESPN introduced the players who were the top
eleven on that list, And obviously some of them are
no longer with us. You had Red Grange's cousin, right,
who how is that? The woman was young? How is
that Red Granges cousin? I didn't understand? And everything cousin
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by another. So the lists go, let's go through the
life of Red Grange. I'll do that while you talk.
The list goes like this for the top eleven of
the hundred and fifty players, and you watch law of
them come out and waved everybody. Was a great moment.
Roger Stallback is number eleven, Gayl Sayers, number ten, Barry
Sanders number nine, Dick but Kiss number eight, to be,
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Earl Campbell number seven, Red Grange number six. Right, So
that's eleven through six, Stallbacks, Sayers, Barry Sanders, but Kiss,
Earl Campbell, Red Grange. Now you get Now you get
to the top five. It's Jim thorpe Archie Griffin, Bo Jackson,
Herschel Walker and Syracuse No Slovs, Syracuse Jim Brown best
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college football player, Slovis is a he's number twelve. Did
they include his lacrosse stats? What do we want to
have to lacrosse man? I mean, my man's got to
hus number four. He didn't really do a lot and
didn't really do anything in the pros. I mean, I
know they gave Bo Jackson a Heisman the undeservedly when
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it should have been Chuck Longs. But stop pumping up
for the beast. You have no claim to Iowa. You're
a Northwestern guy. A close vote, the closest vote. But
here's my big thing with this list. I gave you
that list right there, and outside of Dick Butkus, everybody's
basically running back Roger Stallbacks number eleven. So what you're
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telling me is Roger stall Back is the best quarterback
in college football history. Okay, tell me nobody. Who's the
most recent? Bo Jackson? You're telling me that, right, yeah,
Bo Jackson. All the great players we have had, there's
not one in the quote modern era of college football
play Sanders, Barry Sanders. I mean, you can get those
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nine beautiful green score, rookie guards and and Dion Sanders
and Troy Aikman. Not that you wanted to be prisoner
of the moment and say everybody's coming from the past
fifteen or twenty years. We gotta put Ricky Williams on
the list. We got to that. But the big issue
I have. You have Roger stall back at No. Bar
eleven when you're talking about college football, and he's the
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best college football player I've seen in the modern era,
a guy that won two national championships, a Heisman Trophy
and senior year when twelve and oh in the regular season,
Tim Tebow has to be on this list, in the
top five, if not in the top three. You're talking
about the top college football players of all time. Stop that, Like,
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forget about the pros, forget about whatever reality shows Tebow's doing,
forget about proposing to his fiance and a gazebo on
an island that's named for him. Jesus Christ, take everything
else out of it. Tim Tebow, what he accomplished as
a college football player. Nobody has that resume. Nobody's got
that resume. Heisman Trophy, to national championships, twelve and oh,
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records senior year, along with numerous quarterback awards. Best Quarterback
in the Country Award three times. What else does he?
What else the guy need to do? I mean, I
feel like that's a backlash, and specifically people don't whoever
voted didn't want to give it to Tebow. No, I'm
not putting Teabo on the list the best quarter So
I get them to show up and wave and wave. Now,
screw Tebow. I'm not gonna put him on that list.
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When Tebow really is the best college football player I've
seen in the modern era. Here's number seventies six. That's
where he belongs. That's the problem. That is just insane
because we're talking as this game gets hyped, right, and
Joe Burrow with the year that he's had, talking about
single season, one of the the great single seasons we've
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ever seen in college football for Trevor Lawrence was what
he's done. If he wins tonight and then he's still
got to come back for one more year and if
they have another fantastic run, who's he being compared to
be compared to the career that Tebow had? HM? Right,
I mean, that's the guy you bring up, You don't
bring up any of these other guys. Dan Marino's ahead
of him. I mean, peyton Man didn't win anything. Pass
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for a lot of yarns. They won the National Championship
the year after the worst team Martin. Where's Team Martin
on the list of greatest college football players of all time?
And I I don't mean it needs to be everybody
from the past twenty thirty years. But the most you're
telling me, nobody from the last thirty years is good
enough to be in the top ten greatest college football
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players of all time. Tebow seventy six, Um Manning is fifty,
Jack Tatum, you got Jim Plunkett. Uh, just keep on going.
Eddie George, I love Eddie George of the Right Leaf
just had one big year. I got that saying this
is an ESPN poll. This is this is this is
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ESPN ran a a poll for the greatest players in
college football history and ESPN survey media members, college administrators,
former players, and coaches. The greatest part about it is
Tebow works for ESPN. Yeah. Well, I mean that's the
thing that's the most surprising of it all. It knocking
on everybody's doors. He walks down the Hallway, Hey, vote
for me, right, okay, great? Hey vote for me? Okay,
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Hey Norby, Hey great, vote for me. Great, Thanks, appreciate.
That's the thing that doesn't make any sense. You think
he would get like entry music, like he was a
w w E superstar. Hey, Jesse Palmer, Yeah, can you
get enough time off that food Baking Championship show and
vote for me? Okay? Great? Thanks? This guys finished seven six.
Vote for me. I mean, really of the modern era
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of the impact on the game, and this is where
it's good we get to remember the impact that he
had because it was still just you know, seven eight
years ago. He had an impact unlike anybody on the
sporter college football. And it's not like he was someone
well he just won. He didn't really know. I mean,
he won and he put up the stats. I mean
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Tebow did what I mean, it's not like he's well
he had twelve touchdowns. No, No, that that's not. That's
not Tim Tebow. That's not that's not anything that he
had to do. He was He was a guy responsible
for over thirty touchdowns. He was a guy that responsible
for all kinds of offense. He won every single award
you could possibly think of as a quarterback in calle
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edge football. I I really I I don't understand. He
threw for thirty two touchdowns in two thousand seven, thirty
touchdowns in two thousand eight, right, he had ten interceptions
total in those two seasons. And then running the football
he was up near a thousand yards and all three
of those seasons, and his touchdowns were twelve, fourteen and
twenty three. The guy did everything, He did everything. He
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accounted for fifty touchdowns a year, two out of his
three years. And you talk about what he won and
what he what he did those three years as a starter.
I I don't know how he's left off in the
top ten and how he comes in at seventy six.
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pm Pacific. The Astros are penalized by Major League Baseball.
Rob Manford completes his investigation into the allegations the Astros
were using electronic means to steal signs in two thousand
seventeen when they won the World Series. And this is
a developing story because other people are involved that are
no longer with the Astros. You have met Sox manager
Alex Cora. You have Carlos Beltrand. The Mets can't even
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give the Astros a day. No, this is a huge
mess and the Mets don't know. We want part of it. No,
let's just leave it to the Actros. No, no, we
want to own this part of it. Beltrand the only
two people mentioned by name in the whole sign stealing
where Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran gotta have mentioned by
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name in this This was gonna be a eight men
out kind of situation where you'd have two guys going
I didn't see any signs I hit three thirty eight
on my own, or I hit one oh five. You
think I was stealing sides? Nobody cares about your batty.
But this story is just insane. I mean, it's like
a class action lawsuit because you have the Dodgers, who
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you can say, boy, now, depending on what Alex Cora did,
did he bring this to the Red Sox when when
he came there to manage they're looking at maybe two parades.
Frostberg's got a whole city block blocked off Dodge. I
had to bring him some lawn chair. The Yankees are mad.
The Yankees are already intimating that they lost a chance
of the World Series because of this. I want, I
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want the Royals in two thousand fifteen to be investigating
just because. But think about all the revenue lost, think
about the reputations lost, right, all these Dodger players, and
think about Clayton Kershaw. I mean, how many times have
you seen the mock up of Choker? All right? I
mean there was a lot of stuff that fell out.
It's not like he was lights out in the playoffs before.
And I'm not saying that, Hey, everybody, everybody had, but
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you everybody. The Cardinals had the signs. Everybody had. The
Cardinals had cheaters that were in house from their time
with the show, all their their scouting information. That was
a guy with the Cardinals at worked for the Astros.
So it all plays together. Sad they had the signs
every game. When it comes down to this, right, and
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we have the firings after the year long suspensions are announced,
it still puts a pretty low price on a championship.
Five million bucks, a couple of draft picks. Screw the
draft picks. Also, they're fired. Your GM. Your your GM
got suspended. So did your manager and then they were fired.
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Well here's the thing, and I get it because should
they have taken the title away from the Astros. Yes,
they should have because that would show baseball is not
messing around. And this is something that can't continue because
this is fabric of the game. This is not just
dealing signs. This is we're going through an elaborate electronics
scheme to relay signs into the dugout. And of all
the different angles on this story that you know one
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I want to get to tonight because listen, everything we
have going on the National Championship Game is going to
take over his well in the NFL. Just kill it,
is it? I I understand why I disagree, but I
get why because if Rob Manfred just decides to vacate
the World Series, right, he vacates World Series, it's the
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right thing to do because the clearly by this punishment,
you know, they gain in some kind of incredible advantage,
like when you know what kind of pitch is coming,
that's a big advantage. But he's saying, I'm not making
my legacy, Rob Manfred, commissioner who stripped the ashes of
the World Series. I'm not making such a negative headline.
What people remember me for his commissioner Major League Baseball
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not doing it because he saw what happened with Bud Sealing.
What can you say about Bud Sealing? Oh yeah, he
was commission when there was no World Series. I remember,
I remember when. But now you're the commissioner. Doesn't matter,
this is different, doesn't matter. He he does not want
to be the because he knows that's to be the hero.
That's I don't think he would be. He's Signy Houston.
He I would be. I'm the guy that realized I'm
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the guy that had to punish my own league because
we couldn't do the right thing. I I I didn't
have enough oversight on these teams, even though there were
reports of the astro stealing signs and we knew I
did not have enough oversight the other way, right, this
is a come up. This is a black guy for baseball,
and I'm not going to be the commissioner that this
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becomes synonymous with. I want a positive I want a
positive reputation. I but that's why he's I'm gonna do
this because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be that commissioner. Look,
I remember when Bud Sealing when they canceled the World
Series and I was working for ESPNS production assistant and
they had a big press conference officially to make the
they couldn't play anymore and it was canceled, and Bud
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Sealing the first part of the press scotts, Okay, everybody
saw the press release, so let's talk about what's next.
He wasn't gonna be the commissioner to say, well, as
you can see, the World Series has been canceled. He
wasn't gonna be then, so they could play that SoundBite
forever and ever, and even in he knew if I'm
I don't want to be the guy to even say
the World Series has been canceled. I don't want to
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do that, and I'm gonna hopefully try to avoid that.
You know that he didn't wouldn't say it. You see,
here's the announcement. Now, now let's talk about it. And
he talked about what was next and labor and nobody
cared at that point because it was just all. The
World Series was over. It was a great regular season.
I was ready for that White Sox Exposed series would
have been that would have been a lowly high rated
World Series. But that's the same thing for Rob Manfred.
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He knows he can't go away from this. So what
do I do? I punish the people at the very
highest point of this, which is the general manager and
the manager and the GM. Apparently there was no evidence
he found that Luo knew. A J Hinch said he
kind of knew and tried to get them to stop,
which is where Dick JJ Hinches. Yeah, he's hit. He
broke two monitors. No, you're the guy that controls the
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club eyes. You controlled every aspect of it, Luo. The
same thing athletics guys. Yeah, but you know that's a
variable we just didn't recognize. Come on, but that But
that's the thing is that if you try to get
it all done at the top in one fell swoop.
This is why he didn't announce penalties for Bell transits.
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While we're waiting on Alex Core, I'm penalizing the guys
at the top, and that's it, and and then we're done.
I have a big I have a big scandal here,
and not realizing that there's still gonna be questions. And
all he did was empower people to say, hey, let's
let Pete Rose and all the other cheaters in the
Hall of Fame. Now it took one a half hour
after we finded all the players who were involved in
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this aren't getting any kind of repercussions against them and
not responsible for any of it. In a half hour,
it was let's let all these cheaters in the Hall
of Fame. I mean, Rob manfred In, trying to preserve
his own legacy, has really just thrown out a punishment
that doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, no,
no suspensions to the players. I was hoping they'd have
all have to be pushed that. Really, the international money
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is where I thought they'd get hammered. Right, forget about
draft picks. Cares about that. It's being able to use
a giant pool of cash to go sign players from
overseas that aren't part and privy to the draft. But
in the end, you you made it pretty easy to say,
all right, here's the blueprint. We'll slap you on the wrist.
A couple of your exacts might get fired, but is
it worth it. Yeah, I would say it was worth it.
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If you're the Houston Astros. Screw that. Well, now they
get to keep your World Series. Now you can to
keep your world series. Okay, all those guys are gonna
make fifty seventy five bucks of pop and autograph shows
for the next years. I like how you're worried about
the you're worried about the guys that need to make
money at autograph shows. I like how you want to
add and he's looking up. I'm gonna keep getting paid.
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