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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hell ye America and jeryllin for.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
For nation God.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And this is wrong.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good morning and welcome into a Wednesday. It is the
twenty fifth day of a month of June. This month
is just about out of here. My goodness, where's the
time going? Sixteen after six Good to have you here,
Hope you're well. Gary David, that's me. Christopher Thompson, that's
that guy right there. That is me, And thank you
for joining us on another muggy, warm morning already. And

(00:51):
I don't know by the time I pulled on the
radio station this morning. A few minutes late. By the way,
uh my window started fogging up. So to deal with
the humidity levels very high. It is sticky, yeah, seventy
seven here right now. It is trying to mention heading
back up to one hundred hundred and one a day
heating next vus could hit as high as one ten,

(01:15):
but then things pull down tomorrow right ninety five and
he didn't except one hundred and four. A cooling trend
is heading our way. We got a little rain yesterday
along with that light Yeah, yeah, that kind of rolled
through quickly. I mean it popped up out of nowhere.
And that that that's our one of our big stories
today that run down the big stories, the hot topics

(01:37):
for Wednesday, June twenty fifth. That that storm that just
it really it did. I mean it was. It came
out of nowhere, seemingly right and there were a bunch
of folks out on the election inside of the Lake
Murray Dam, and right about five o'clock, lightning hit a cable,
metal cable out there in that swimming area with a

(01:58):
bois on it kind of ropes off the swimming area
out of the lake there, and yeah, you had you
had folks, eight adults, twelve kids who were hurt by
this lightning strike. Fortunately none of these were serious injuries,
but I guess some were actually hanging on to the
cable when that lightning hit it the area there, and

(02:22):
others were just swimming nearby.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, it's why everyone's very lucky. It could have
been far worse, oh much worse.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
What about a dozen I guess we're taking to three
different hospitals around the area. Again, none of the threatening.
None of the injuries are life threatening, and all are
expected to recover. So I'll get your attention right there.
I want it. I heard a bunch of buzz yesterday
afternoon and didn't know what had gone on at the time,
but people, you know, there are cops and all rushing

(02:53):
down Highway six. What's going on? This is where they
were all heading here? Wow? Crazy, I don't know these
folks ever get back in the water again. Man, you know,
I mean seriously, other big dues around here. Well, they
did it finally, Columbia City Council's second reading, and they did,

(03:14):
in fact, on another four to three vote vote to
repeal the conversion therapy ban for minors. You know the
backstory here, you know, the first two votes were put
off in the last week, voted on a first reading
to ban the ban. Did it especially called meeting yesterday

(03:37):
afternoon they went through with it. So you're the mayor,
Daniel Rickerman, Councilman Peter brown Ed mcdowald, Will Brennan voting
to repeal the ordinance. This was the exact same, but
we had a week ago and we didn't think that
it would change. There was a lot of pressure to
change votes at least one of them, but they did not,
so that ban is now out of here and the

(04:01):
city gets to keep his three point seven million dollars.
I'm still you know, I know they deny it, but
I'm still thinking there's a lot to that story that
they wanted the state House to threaten to with hold funds.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
But we should have never been a story. This was
pure politics.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, probably, and quite honestly from the get go, I
mean when this thing was first put in anyway, So,
as Thomas mentioned, R J. Mays apparently got nothing to
his name except for a pickup truck, appearing in federal
courty yesterday pleading poverty, asking a magistrate to appoint a

(04:39):
taxpayer finance lawyer for him, and that's exactly what he's gotten.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, he's sad, how long since the raid on his
house last August, plenty of time to sign everything over
to his wife's name, exactly according to tax records and
election in county. He owns a twenty seventeen Chevrolet Suburban
and she's got the rest and everything else isn't her name, yes,
so yeah, please, it's plenty of time to transfer all that, right, Okay,

(05:08):
so he gets a public defender at taxpayer expense. State
Supreme Court hearing challenges to our state's congressional map case,
which decides who you get to vote on. We'll now
sit with the state's highest court.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Are you reading an old story? I might be. It
seems like the story pops up every now and then. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, every time we draw a new map, it gets
your challenge.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Sure, okay, and this goes back and I thought this
was already settled. I guess it wasn't you know? This
is the one that it led to the redrawing of
District one and District six, which made both of the
sitting congress folk in those district happy. But a well, okay, now,

(05:56):
did the job get done or not? A lot of
stories floating around as the ceasefire is continuing to hold,
tinuous as it may be, between Israel and Iran. Did
those strikes that we unleashed on the Iranian nuclear facilities
this past weekend did they do the job? A lot
of questions being asked New York Times that the early

(06:18):
US Intel assessments suggest they did not destroy these nuclear sites.
This is supposedly from inside informations. The New York Times
saying in a report that well, it set the program
back by only a few months. It's supposedly an internal
US intelligence assessment that they somehow got a hold of.

(06:40):
The White House slamming these reports as fake news, continue
to claim that the Iranian nuclear program was obliterated. This
was obviously the concern. And as we've talked about the
last few days, how do you really know satellites? Will
images only tell you a certain a certain thing, and
that is well, what's on the ground level? How do
we know what's going on inside? That's going to take

(07:01):
some sort of human intelligence to figure that out. And
I don't know how you do that.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Actually, you know, send somebody deep down in the mountain. Yeah,
I don't know how you get away.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
With that exactly. I meantime, back on the politics front
of all this, the House yesterday voting overwhelmingly to set
aside to question an effort to impeach Trump over that
attack on Tehran.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
They're still floundering trying to figure out who their leader
is and what direction they want to go in.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Can't figure it out? What was it? About one hundred
Democrats joined Republicans to quash this meantime, Back at home,
the FBI DHS ICE all looking out for Iranian nationals
on the home soil here and ICE arresting eleven Iranian
illegal migrants over the past weekend. It's according to DHS,

(07:52):
Among those, a rib Var Kareemi reportedly served as an
Iranian army sniper and was allegedly a carrying an Islamic
Republic of Iran ident Army identification card at the time
of his arrest, which took place on Sunday. Yeah, scary stuff.
Two Republican senators launching the Golden Dome Act, Well, this

(08:17):
is a good time to go ahead and do it.
I guess right now, this is similar to the dome
that the Israelis have. If this bill passes, it would
be a twenty three billion dollar program to develop a
new defense system a dome over the US. It's gonna
a bigger dome than the one over Israel. We're a
little bit bigger than they are, certainly.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, and if we were getting attacked, it wouldn't be
the type missiles that attack Israel.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, it would be.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I don't know if this is the right move defense wise,
but it's almost like Star Wars back in the Reagan days. Right, Yeah,
it makes us sound bigger and tougher and stronger.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it may make us feel safer. Maybe we would be,
maybe we wouldn't be. I mean, who knows in New
York City they're going to do it. He's whack jobs, man.
The capitalist center of the world looks like it's going
to have a socialist mayor, Zoe Rehnmond Dami winning in

(09:16):
the Democrat primary yesterday, Andrew Cuomo conceding not that he
was a big you know, fine catch, but still you
got now what I'm sorry, A Democrat socialist who wins
at New York City primary. Well, kind of like South Carolina.
You know, if you're a Republican in South Carolina, you
win a primary, you're gonna win the eventual race. And

(09:38):
that's pretty much what we're going to see in the
Big Apple. So get ready for that, that and more.
We'll talk about it on this It is the Wednesday
edition of Columbia's Morning News. Fabulous to have you with
us every day, every hour. I like to stay.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Inform everything you need to stay informed on all three
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Speaker 2 (10:11):
Six forty two. Good morning, Good to have you along
for Wednesday, June twenty fifth, as we swelled her through
another excessively hot day. We do have a heat advisory
that will stay in effect until eight o'clock tonight. So
if you order the outside you like toast neighbor, did
the other night wait till like nine to cut your lawn?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I cut mine last night. That's at six at six. Yeah,
I didn't want to wait too late. It wasn't you know.
We had had that rain about three hours earlier.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, that helped out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And it was a little cloudy, and I mean it
was hot, but it wasn't Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I can tell I can tell you how hot it
is by how long I walk the dog. And I'm
not the one making that decision, you know, it's the dog.
The dog he gets to a certain point, and last
night it was about halfway through our normal route. He
did his business. Yeah, I know, because any other time
he's just you know, doing all the sniffing things, you know,
right stiff over here and stuff over there. Would you please,

(11:05):
for the love of God use the bathroom and little
screwgs reference there somewhat fair phrased. Yeah. But last night
he got right, he got right under the brass tacks. Bit,
let's do this thing. How need to get back in
the ac now we talked, yeah, and I think it
was in this segment yesterday morning we were discussing, how

(11:27):
is he The entire East Coast is is weltering under
this and there were concerns that there could be, you know,
grid problems. Now, the Department of Energy has issued an
emergency order did this yesterday to reduce the risk of

(11:48):
blackouts across among others states here in the southeast, in
particular Duke Energy Carolina, which I guess more than the
Upstate First Duke Energy customers not really here in the
Midlands at all, of course, they don't service us here.
But this order allows Duke, the Carolinas version of Duke Energy,

(12:12):
to run some of their units in mass capacity until
tonight to try to mitigate the threat of any blackouts.
So this is one of several recent moves the White

(12:32):
House is made to try to secure the grid. The
North American Electric Reliability Corporation NURK Grid Watchdog keeping an
eye on things here. The Energy Secretary Chris Wright saying,
as demand reaches its peak, Americans should not be forced

(12:54):
to wonder if their power grids can support their homes
and businesses. Yes, thank you. So this move would ensure
that Duke Energy Carolinas will be able to supply customers
with consistent and reliable power throughout peak summer demand. Now, yeah,
I get their regulations that keep these providers from running

(13:15):
it max output. I guess maybe I can see why.
But anyway, that's been lifted at least through tonight for
Duke Energy Carolina. There were also emergency orders lists that
were put out well back in May, actually directed a
major grid operator to keep a Michigan coal plant running.
New Orleans experienced a big outage a couple of days later.

(13:41):
So we have a lot of grids that are you know,
especially when he gets this hot. But even when it doesn't,
you know, I mean, we're kind of at that point
now where the infrastructure has not kept up with the
growth or in this case, with the emerging technologies, these
big data centers. Yeah, if you, if you, I say,

(14:02):
shut down the data center for a day or two
if you have to. All right, if if you can't
do your AI or Google search or whatever for a
day or two, fine keep the lights on in homes
and businesses. Now, again, part of this problem is the
push under the Biden administration for for green energy and
these strict environmental regulations, which may have and I would argue,

(14:26):
you have contributed to our low energy supply here in
the in the country. You're you're you're aware of the
new green scam, if you'll recall. And we had this
discussion when they were first talking about the the plan
over in Kennedy's the natural what is it, gas plant

(14:51):
or whichever one it is, whichever kind it is, that
when they were first talking about building that, we discussed
the Biden rules that would be coming into effect to
limit the emissions, We're going to require one of two things.
Either that these power plants would be required to install

(15:15):
technology to to mitigate the effects of the emissions bring
it down to a certain level. But all these operators said,
you know, the cost of that just is outrageous. It's
just not doable. So the other option was, Okay, if
you don't want to do that, then you just have
to cut your output back to a certain amount. And
it was I think at the time we were talking

(15:39):
that this new plant when it would it come online
here in South Carolina might come online and only be
able to operate at about fifty percent capacity because of
the Biden rules on emission standards. Okay, that's just stupid. Great,
save the planet for what. We can't keep lights on,

(16:00):
we can't keep ac running, we can't keep heath of
the summer in the winter. Yeah, we can't do our
daily business. But hey, that's okay, Hey we're saving the environment. Well,
this is this is this is what's causing these issues here.
And it's these kind of new green scam regulations under
the Biden administration the Democrat party that are leading to

(16:21):
reduced output. And this is this is why you've got
to have, you know, this emergency orders say okay, do
Carolinas go ahead and run a maximum output at least
for a certain set amount of time here so we
don't have a grid failure here. The short sighted and
this again Democrat policies rearing their ugly head. Now there

(16:43):
have been no there have been or any kind of
discussion about the dominion or any electric cooperatives or anything
like that. I mean, listen, we're yeah, this is hot
for us, but this is not unusual for us. True, okay,
but there are other parts of the country. We're well,
it gets good and warm. It's it's a lot hotter
now that it normally is.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But these data farms, I mean, we're experiencing these heat
waves for the first time with this many data farms
in operation. And you know, with yeah, AI taking off,
I mean suddenly game changer. Yeah, exactly, it's a game changer.
You try to you've got to find the balance. Well,
we'll keep searching for it. Well, let's ask AI.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
There you go, Hey, chat GPT.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
You're listening to Columbia's morning news on one oh three
point five FM and five sixty AM w VOC. Once again,
here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Seven fifteen, Wednesday, June twenty fifth. Good morning to you again.
Another dangerous day out there. Today's values up on that
one hundred and ten range, heads up, and yeah, probably
not a good day to go back out on the
lake against you know, there's that chance of storms again
later on today. Well pardon the pun, but the shocking news,

(18:01):
you know, those those folks out on the lights in
the side of the damn out there in the swim area.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I mean, who could have seen that coming though? And
and you know, as many times as you cling to
the rope either to you know, just take a breath
or just relax, and not knowing that that rope was
about to be electrified. Yeah, I guess it's a metal cable, right, Yeah,
that that number. That's your first problem right there. Well,

(18:26):
maybe you ought to think about you're using something other
than metal out there in the water, but it's holding
those buoys in place that kind of enclosed the beach, Yeah, yeah,
and wound up being a dangerous place to be like yesterday.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Fortunately, well there were a number of folks hospitalized, none
of the injuries or are life threatening. And you, yeah,
when you first heard the news that that many people
had been struck by lightning, you thought, well, wait a minute,
how did how did that many people get hit by
lightning at the same time? Now we know, I mean,
you're in the water and this thing just blew up

(19:02):
out of nowhere. And I was at the house yesterday.
I was upstairs in my home studio and what does
that It just kind of blew up out of nowhere anyway,
So where are the wise? Just prior to that storm
rolling through here and creating that news, City Council in

(19:22):
Columbia created some news as they had their especially called
meeting yesterday the purpose to well take a second reading
on the conversion band therapy.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't know that this was bad news. I mean
they were headed this way anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah, but they took two readings to make it official.
And that's what happened yesterday. Nothing changed. The vote was
like it was a week ago. Four to three. The mayor,
along with council members Brown, McDowell and Brennan voted to
repeal the ordinance. Bustles, Bailey and uh and Tina Herbert

(20:02):
voted to keep it. So nothing changed and didn't really
think that it would. Now, of course this has got
LGBTQ activist in an uproar. But let's let's for a
moment consider this, and let's let's let's toss out for

(20:23):
a moment the fact that this was a conversion therapy
ban for minors. Okay, minors, and this hasn't gotten talked
about a whole lot. But you know, underlying all this
is again this concept that government knows better than you

(20:44):
do when it comes to your kids. We're talking about
miners here with the uh sum. I think it was
the union president in Chicago, the Chicago teachers Union in
common I think it was yesterday and quoted some long

(21:05):
ago activist and I'm just paraphrasing here, but saying that,
you know, as far as the schools are concerned, as
far as the teachers are concerned, as far as the
union in Chicago was concerned, these are our kids, our kids.

(21:25):
You wonder why so many parents these days are opting
for an education for their child and something other than
a public school. This is kind of the same thing
here when when city council and I'm not even sure
why they was there, was there some sort of a
big outcry back in what twenty twenty one? Yeah, I
don't remember when the institute of this band, I mean,

(21:48):
what was going on? Remember Daniel Rickman was not married,
he was a city council member, and he voted against it.
Then so did the current mayor. So did the current mayor. Yeah,
I don't know, this is this is one of those
Was this one of those squeaky wheel gets the grease things?
It might have been. I think so, I mean, was

(22:11):
there a big issue with this I don't know that
there was. If so, it got kept pretty quiet. And
you know during this time, I mean we we we
basically once the institute of that band. We really heard
nothing about it until just earlier this year. And yeah,
a lot of politics were a play there. And yes,
I do believe, you know, I do believe the story

(22:34):
that's been running around that certain members of council may
have lobbied the state House to to threaten to withhold
the money because it gave them cover with their constituents whatever.
But I also do believe that the four who voted
against it, against this band, that that that they really
believed this band was should have been infected in the

(22:54):
first place. But what yeah, what what about the concept
that this was another example of government, in this case
the city of Columbia thinking that they know better how
you should raise your kid than you do. Again, we're

(23:19):
talking about miners here, and we're talking about a therapy
that is not some you know, fly by night off
the wall, uh, you know, kind of cultish thing that
you send your kid away somewhere out in the middle
of nowhere or whatever with you know, people you don't

(23:40):
know much about. I mean, this was these were professionals, therapists.
So on the one hand, you've got government and you've
got schools that are are are are are force feeding
these kids this concept that is because you were born

(24:01):
a boy or a girl doesn't mean that you are.
How many kids these days that are so gender confused
are gender confused because of not inside pressure from their
own bodies that air own psyche, their own emotions, but
from the outside peer pressure. And peer pressure is one thing.

(24:27):
But then when you have authority figures in your life,
when you've got schools, you've got teachers, when you've got
government officials that are saying, you know, you should question
who you really are. Maybe you're not what you think
you are. This is that's where this a lot of
this starts. And then these same people want to tell

(24:48):
you what we better, We know better than you do
how to raise your child, We know what's best for
your kid. Just shut up and move out of the way.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that's that's obviously a problem. And again we we've
heard that this band really never came into play. The
great thing about it was, you know, it affected professionals,
It didn't affect for example, those in the church, and
most conservatives would probably tell you if they had a
kid that they were worried about, they would probably not

(25:17):
take them to a professional. They would probably take them to,
you know, their pastor or somebody in the church that
they trusted. And this, this band, had nothing to do
with that. I think this band, it's like you said,
it was, you know, a squeaky wheel. It was kind
of like the drag shows in public libraries. Did we
have any around here, No, but that had a whole
issue exploded because somebody saw it on Fox News and said,

(25:38):
oh my god, we've got to do something about that.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
We have some of the upstate there was one in
the upstate. Upstate.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, but it not get your point. It was never
the big problem everybody made it out to be. But
people saw it and said, well, we've got to do
something about it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And sometimes you just have to cut things off before
they get to the board.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Happened, Well, I think in a city that is as
progressive as Columbia likes to pretend it is at times,
and remember, this is Columbia. This is not Lexington County,
this is not Greenville County. This is Columbia. I think
there's a certain amount of box checking that goes on,
and they're like, Okay, well, if we want to attract
this crowd and we want to be host to this parade,

(26:15):
and we want this convention to come to town, and
we want this set of people to move here, then
you know we need to do this kind of like
the way we do in the state for the military,
you know, where we say, all right, we've got to
be military friendly in these aspects and make sure this
is done and that's done. You get the feeling Columbia's
kind of thinking in that direction at times. All Right,

(26:36):
how can we be you know, how can we be business?
How can we beat Greenville and Charleston and get this
audience to come our way?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
And maybe that's what it was. Sometimes you get track
the wrong audience. Keeping the commitment. I love you, Guyslable
twenty four to seven. Listen to you every day half
for years.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
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and they deserve real consideration, and.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I want to give some thought about the best way
to help address them, the best way to help the party,
but most of all, the best way to help the city. Okay,
seven one good morning disgraced New York Governor Andrew Cuomo,
who decided to take a shot at running for mayor
of New York City.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
He figured, with Anthony Wiener on the ballot too, where
could yeah, what could it go wrong?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Possibly go wrong? Yeah? Well it did. And so now again,
much like in South Carolina, whoever wins the primary and
the Republican Party say for a governor, unless you know
hell or highwater comes, is good win the race next
November New York City. Same thing with the Democrats. Whoever

(28:06):
wins the primary in New York City more than likely
is going to be the next mayor of New York City.
Well why should we care? Well, it is the the
center of capitalism, not just in this country but in
the world. And how ironic that it would appear now
that that center of capitalism is going to be run

(28:33):
by a socialist, Okay, democratic socialist. I know you look
this up yesterday, mister Thompson.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Now there is a distinction, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
How it's a great it's it's it's kind of gray Man.
Well yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's it's semantics, not like either side would entice me.
But yeah, apparently they think. But it's what a what
a big win for that wing of the party, you know,
that has been licking its wounds ever since Kamala Harris
went down. All of a sudden, You've got establishment Democrats
like our own Jim Clyburn, who was campaigning for Cuomo.

(29:12):
You get AOC and Bernie AOC and Bernie both campaigning
for Mendammi and and he wins.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, So thirty three year old Zoe ran mom Donnie again,
unless hell or highwater comes, is going to be the
next mayor of New York City. Oh boy wow. Okay, well,
Mandami would be the city's first Muslim and Indian American

(29:44):
mayor have elected. Okay, you got, of course Cuomo trying
to make a comeback from the sexual harassment scandal and others. Now,
Eric Adams, the current mayor, is going to be in
the mix, but he has skipped the primary. He's running
as an independent.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
And remember, and I thought Cuomo said he was going
to run again too, that if he didn't win on
this side. He was going to run under some party's
name I'd never heard of before. Has he changed his
mind on that now?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
No, I don't know. I don't know. But remember they
used this a rank choice voting thing. Get there and
in order was going into this that if it were
if it was just a straight up primary, a traditional primary,
that Cuomo would have won. But with the ranked choice
voting system they put into place, that wasn't the case. So,

(30:38):
as you mentioned, I mean, there were Monday he had
ads that were featured AOC.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean, if you had seen it, you wouldn't even
know it was for Mundami.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It was.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
It was just AOC, yeah, speaking.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And then of course the rules specify at some point
in time the candidate has to at least say paid
for by so and so, approved by so and so
and so. That was all you got out of that
particular at from Mondami. Now here's what you're going to
hear from the socialist wing of the Democrat Party. Okay,

(31:15):
this is our time. Wow, we're going to have a
mayor in New York City who's a socialist. Look out,
rest of the rest of the country, we're coming for you. Oh,
they're going to be all all all worked up over this.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
It's not really that big a step, is it.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah? No, right, well, I mean and listen, Mondami ran
on the usual Democrat things but took them a little
bit further. You know, the free buses, free child care,
new apartments, high minimum wage. You know, at some point,
and you know what, maybe maybe this is a maybe
this is a good thing because you know, just maybe

(31:56):
you can make the argument that all right, you go
ahead and try all this stuff. Let's see how that
turns out for you. I mean, you want you want
to pay people higher minimum wages. Okay, not not not
a new argument, I get it. You want bus service
to run free of charge to people. You want New

(32:20):
York City residents to get free childcare, new apartments not free,
but you know rent control, you know how it works there.
And you want to pay for this by new taxes
on rich people. Well, number one, are there there is?
Are there enough rich people in New York City right

(32:41):
now to pay higher taxes to afford all this You
want to just give away all this free stuff? Well,
maybe there are, but that's not really the question, is it. Well,
there'll be enough rich people there for much longer to
pay for all this stuff. This is the socialist pie

(33:03):
and this guy idea. This is wealth transfer, its Rob
Peter and pay Paul. So this is the great socialist experience.
He can call himself a democrat socialist all he wants.
His ideas are socialism. Alexandri A Cassio's ideas are socialist
Bernie Sanders ideas. Maybe not as socialist as aocs are

(33:24):
this guy's. But maybe it's time to try this great
experiment in a great city, in New York City. I
just for one, I don't see this turning out. Well,
probably not. And maybe this is what it's going to
take to convince even liberal liberal voters that this is

(33:48):
not the way to go.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, I mean, at least it gives them something to
hang their hats on for a few minutes, because they
a few minutes. Yeah, and you wonder, I mean, is
this as much about you know, political policies as it
is old versus young.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, yeah, there's there's there's a good deal of that too,
right in there. Thirty three years old. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
So, by the way, Cuomo has said that he would
run again in the general election under the Fight and
Deliver Party.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
But now yeah, the fighting de Liverpool.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Sure, yeah, what but now he says he's not so sure,
so who knows?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
He may be done? I think he probably is. Hmm, Okay,
well I guess. I mean this is that generation that
was raised on, you know, not wanting to work and
get up every morning, do things and better themselves, just
just waiting for those handouts which started for mom and dad.
Now mom and dad's the government. This will be interesting

(34:49):
to see how it works out. Huh.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
point five FM and five sixty AM w VOS. Once again,
here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson. Given the thirty thousand
pounds of explosives and capability of those munitions, it was
devastation underneath four O and the amount of munitions six

(35:13):
per location. Any assessment that tells you something otherwise is
speculating with other motives.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
All right, eight fifteen, Good morning, It's Wednesday, June twenty fifth.
Defense Secretary Pete hagseeth there. Yeah, I'd like to believe them,
I really would. I think the whole world would like
to believe them. Fox top Oft the Irm mentioning that
the Iranians have now said yes, there was significant damage done,

(35:42):
but how much and how did the era? That troubles
me even more now, mister Thompson. With the Iranians saying yeah,
there was significant damage done, you can't believe a word
these people say. Man. True.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
If they say there was no damage done, you know,
we probably devastated the play, we destroyed it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
If they say yeah, oh there was significant damage, then
it's probably in better shape than we think.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, whatever is they say, believe the opposite. Yeah, now, okay, yeah,
we dropped a bunch of those bunk bunker buster bombs.
They're devastating. They you know, did what they're supposed to do.
But the question, how do we know if they did

(36:25):
the job or not? Aside from somebody getting in there
and and taking a look around some way knows what
they're looking at and what they're looking for, how do
we know. How do we know if the enriched uranium
all of it was still there or not? We don't.

(36:45):
And then there was the uh, the leak. Regardless of
what Pete Haigseeth said, there the assessment by the Defense
Intelligence Agency, which is the Pentagon's intelligence arm that leaked
out and even at this I don't know how you know,

(37:07):
without you know, boots on the ground there exactly what
the results were. But the analysis that they have have found,
they say it could change as more intelligence becomes available.
But the early US Intel assessments suggest that these strikes
did not destroy the nuclear sites, which was you know,

(37:33):
concern going in is again, these bombs are designed to do.
They did what they're designed to do, but this thing
was deep. Man, did they do the job? Two people
familiar with the assessment leaking the word I guess initially

(37:54):
to the New York Times that the stockpile of enriched
uranium was not destroyed. One of the people said, the
interviewss were largely intact.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Now is that because they were gone or because they
were buried so deep that we couldn't get to them
even with the bunker busters.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Well, the other source says that the intelligence report assessed
that you said, rich guranium was moved out of the
sizes prior to the strikes, which was what we had
been hearing. So one or both maybe so the assessment,
according to this leaked report from the Defense Intelligence Agency,

(38:35):
is that we set them back maybe a few months tops. Now,
the White House quick to respond to this, Caroline Levitt
telling us CNN in a statement they reported this as well,
quoting this alleged assessment is flat out wrong and was
classified as top secret, but was still leaked to CNN

(38:57):
by an anonymous low level loser in the intelligence community.
That the leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear
attempt to demean President Trump and discredit the brave fighter
pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission. Okay, now, there's

(39:23):
no point in getting into this at this point. What's
important is was it leaked by a low level loser
or not? All right, that's one thing. But what's important
is is this the actual assessment by the DA Okay,
classified as top secret leaked? Okay, not good? Bad? But

(39:47):
worse is it? Is that what the report says? And
if that's what the report says, is that the actual
reality on the ground. Now, Levin went on to say
that everybody knows what happens with your drop fourteen thirty
thousand pound bonds, perfect on their targets, total obliteration. Well
again from the from the satellite view. Yeah, but the

(40:10):
satellite ain't Superman and they can't see you know, hundreds
and hundreds of yards deep into that facility. I gotta
tell you, I have serious doubts that we were able
to get the job done to the level we wanted
to get it done. Did we set them back? Did
we cause problems? Absolutely? And maybe just maybe we're gonna

(40:35):
find out at the end of the day that this
convinced the Iranians that you know, don't mess with us,
because here's what we can do. Maybe that's enough, and
maybe that'll be enough. Hopefully it will be. So yeah,
I'm I have my doubts. And again it was the

(40:55):
President's assessment, Pete Haggsath's assessment, Carolyn Lewis's assessment that I
was totally obliterated. I don't know how you know that
you're going on theory here that you drop that many
bunker buster bombs that you're gonna their words obliterate the place.
That's the theory. We've not used these before, like this

(41:22):
is that the reality? And how do we know? So
the White House calls this fake news, I hope it is.
But I've got my doubts, man, I really do. Uh,
And I don't know that we'll ever know.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I guess that would be the second worst thing that
could have happened, you know, the first of course being
if one of our planes had gotten shot down, our
pilots captured, et cetera. You know, that would have been
a huge kouper on. The second would be if the
bombing mission were less successful, and it sounds like it

(42:03):
might have been, even though I still think from a
pr standpoint, you know, it was big, and like you
just said, it shows what we're capable of doing. You know,
don't don't blink or are Trump's going to put another plane,
you know, in your airspace again, You're.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Gonna drop a thirty thousand pound bomb through a vent shaft.
It's unbelievable what our military is capable of doing. I mean,
that's movie stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's that's Star Wars slash top gun stuff, you know,
going right through the air shaft to get the most
vulnerable part of a facility.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
And I got to I have my downs. I mean immediately,
I don't know how you could possibly come out really
as a president did Saturday night and and and claim
that the place was at obliterated. Just too soon to
tell at that, Yeah, yeah, and maybe it is. I
think we all hope that it is. But we just

(43:01):
can't take somebody, even if it's the president. We just
can't take their word for it. You need evidence, Okay.
I was waiting for that story to say Trump said
it without evidence. The press was so uh uh. Hill
bent on doing it in his first Term's always without evands,
without evidens, But this one, I mean, at least the
initial assessment was without evidence. Okay. Well again, I h

(43:28):
the Iranians today saying yes, major destruction, and yeah, our
take on that is whatever they say, believe the opposite,
but nothing else. Oh, by the way, to the the
efforts to bring up Trump on impeachment charges for this
failing spectacularly in the House. This was the al Green

(43:50):
thing the meet now Green, what hundred is that right?
One hundred Democrats voted against that. Do you even take
even talk of impeachments seriously anymore with this crowd.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's been so watered down at this point in the process.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
So I come over here, let me give you a
slap on the wrist.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I won't give up the ship.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Talking about what matters.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
This country is too great to throw over the communism.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
I love it. One O three point five FM and
five sixty AM w VOC. This is Columbia's Morning News
with Gary David and Christopher Thompson on one O three
point five FM and five sixty am w VOC.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Day Party. Good Morning, Wednesday, June twenty fifth, and our
final Thoughts, final segment here on this Wednesday morning, Let's
get right at it's all the buzz around here. Yesterday
afternoon late was this this incident out at Lake Murray.
Twenty people shocked a bolt of lightning energizing a metal

(45:03):
cable on the swimming portion on the election in side
of the dam. So got the yah they got they
got roped off, you know, with the boys and all that.
You only could swim inside of the thing there. But
they used metal cables to string those boys together. And
uh man, when you heard that twenty people, you know,
ritual bots, twenty people hit by lightning. What how does

(45:26):
that happen? Well, there were folks were in the water.
Some were actually holding on to that that that that
metal cabling when a lightning bolt struck. Others were not
holding on, but they were in the vicinity in the water.
You know how that goes? Right? Luckily, no life threatening
injuries and of the twenty I guess with eight adults

(45:47):
and twelve kids all told, twelve folks were sent to hospitals.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
And these weren't people who were flawning the bad weather.
I mean, you know, that storm just popped up out
of nowhere, and we yeah, we those types of storms
these days.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah. The rmal Fire Department posted that the bulls of
lighting hit the water, energized the metal cable with buoys
that you know, it was, uh, yeah, there was some
clouds around, but other than that, it was those blue
skies and you know, out of nowhere here comes the storm.
So uh, they say they're going to reopen that today, uh,

(46:22):
following safety assessments and clearance. Maybe one of the safety
assessments should be don't use don't use metal cables out
there in the water. I don't know. R. J. May's
defense will be paid by you and me, it turns out, okay.
A guy who, as John Monk writes in the State paper,
had no trouble flying to Columbia and paying well, allegedly

(46:46):
paying young sex workers, says he's he's got nothing, He
has no ass other than a truck. That's all he
That's all he has to his name, he says, and
he can't afford the council, so he gets the state
to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
He had a lot of warning, He had a lot
of lead time that this was coming, you know, after
that search of his home, and then he had months
to kind of put things together. I know, the final
arrest came out of nowhere, but you know, that was
hanging over his head for months. And with that time,
he certainly had plenty of time considering you know, what

(47:26):
he had to deal with to And I'm not saying
he hit any assets, but it certainly would have been
easy enough to put assets in his wife's name. Well,
it probably would have been the smart thing to do anyway, Yeah,
because she's got to carry on while he's in jail.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Right, the house is in her name now. I don't
know that it always was, but you know, I don't
know it would speculate that it wasn't. It was probably
in both their names, but isn't her name now? So Yeah,
the only asset he says he has is that twenty
seventeen truck. That's it. So I can put the bill

(47:59):
for that one. I guess we put the bill for
this too. Another challenge to our last redistricting attempts. Yeah,
the state Supreme Court hearing arguments on a challenge to that.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
And everybody lawyer's up. Oh yeah, the governor lawyers up,
the Speaker of the House lawyers up, the Senate lawyers up.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm sorry, who pays for all this? Anyway? The biggest
bones of contention, of course, the first and the sixth
districts that you know, again the media will tell you
over and over again. It was redrawn it away to
attain GEOP control of the Low Country. But it was
not that it had to be, but it was also

(48:46):
redrawn away to maintain James Clyburne's iron grip on the
sixth district. Anyway, there you go. It was, by the way,
one hundred and twenty eight Democrats who joined Republicans of
the House to block the latest Trump impeachment. Bid I said,
one hundred or one hundred and twenty eight. So yeah,

(49:08):
this is a shot down the al Green idea.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, it's almost you know, because the Democrats are so
in such disarray, it's almost the you know, what happens
if the dog catches the car? What what would what
would have happened if they had been successful, what would
they have done.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
It again, it would have been one of these well, yeah,
you're gonna they well, they knew it wouldn't get done
because they don't control the House and they don't control
the CeNAT. Of course. I mean, was was.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
There a strategy behind this, Oh, let's let's get Trump
now as opposed to later on in his term as
he gets closer to the end of his term.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, I think the only strategy that has become evident
for the Democrat Party is that, you know, anytime Trump
does something they really don't like, are gonna say, well,
I peach and peach and peach.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
And who's going to lead that? Who's leading the charge?
And it's it's not serious if it's now Green.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Gonna say when it's al Green, you know you're in trouble,
right right? Yeah? Uh, get a load of this one now.
Cynthia Gonzalez, the vice mayor of koot Ali I get
you even say the name of this little town or
big town in Southeast La County, allegedly shared a video

(50:30):
again she's the vice mayor of the Sacity shared a
video on social media last week in which she appears
to encourage gang members to protect their turf from ice agents. Hum. Wow.
She makes references to eighteenth Street in Florencia. This is

(50:50):
the eighteenth Street in Florencia. Thirteen gang members. Where's the
leadership at? Because you guys are all about territory. You
guys tag up everything, claiming the hood, and now that
your hood's being invaded by the biggest gang there is,
there ain't a peep out of you. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Wow, let's talk about impeachment. That's somebody had want removed
from office as soon as possible. But it sounds like
she's already given up the city anyway.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Apparently. Yeah, wow, Just when you thought you had heard
the craziest thing ever, there's that the La Sheriff's Department,
La County Sheriff's Department had to delete a post and
then apologize after they posted this. After the attacks on

(51:37):
the Iranian nuclear sides over the weekend, our hearts go
out to the victims and families impacted by the recent
bombings in Iran. Now, we didn't take out any families. Yeah,
we didn't attack civilian target. No, And maybe the reference
was to the Israeli attacks, But still you have to
wonder if was this just.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Was this an automated response, Oh, there was a disaster overseas.
The algorithm kicks in a I took your takes over.
I mean, why else would you send that out?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Well, you got to hope, so huh uh. They didn't
issued an apology apology saying we're issuing this statement to
formally apologize for an offensive and inappropriate social media post. Yeah,
what this probably is is again you you're you're seeing
a social media activity to you know, some twenty or

(52:29):
something a liberal activist. Yeah, come on, you couldn't read
the room, right. And then there's Joy Read, the recently
fired host on MSNBC who said that maybe, just maybe

(52:50):
that if the Iranians have a nuclear weapon, the Middle
East might be calmer. She says the reason you won't
see nuclear war in our lifetimes that everybody would deem
it to the in global annihilation mutually started destruction of course. Yeah,
we talked about this the other day, mad and I
would think that in a weird way to make the
Middle East, you know, calmer. Apparently Joy is not realizing

(53:15):
who we're talking about here. This isn't just anybody, This
is the death to American crowd. Okay, Joy read
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