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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jesus right.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
America and Jery for.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Four Nation.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And this is wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
It's go time morning six sixteen. Let's get up and
get this thing done. Get to the weekend, shall we?
Welcome to a Friday? So August the eighth, and it's
good to have you here. I'm Gary David Christopher Thompson.
Good morning to you, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
When are you going to work a full week? I
don't know, I don't know. I like the way you're
doing this.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
It's it's just working out pretty well for Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, I mean you've come in every morning bouncing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Maybe I should make this a regular thing here, man,
we should all adopt a four day work week. I'm
say let's go for three?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hey, why not? Huh?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
All right now I think I'm stuck in his chair
for a while to come now, okay, you know there's
something something unexpected happens.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well here I'll sit.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Knock on wood. Did I hear a little rain on
the roof?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes? You did?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I thought so.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
We'll miss coming in this morning and toil. I mention
we could see someone happened. Yeah, it was some heavier
rain here a little while ago.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It sounded like it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's like we're living in Seattle without all the uber liberals.
Goodness sakes.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, so expected the greatness to continue at least for
the next number of days. So so very weird weather
pattern we're in right now. Heybody, I'm I'm not complaining. Man,
one hundred degree days. Let's hope those are in the
rearview mirror. All right, let's get to it. Run down
big stories, hot topics for Friday, August eighth. Well, this
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is this is the new push here and across the country.
And Ralph Norman, the Upstate congressman who wants to be
our next governor, is pushing forward here in South Carolina
as well. Redistricting. But Norman he wants the maps redrawn
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in our state so that each and every district will
go Republicans.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
He wants to draw Jim Cliburn out of a job.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, who would have ever thought that could ever happen?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, okay, this doubtful, this will happen. Aren't we still
fighting over the last redistrict? Yes we are, Okay, Yeah,
and that's still going on in the courtroom. Yeah, we
won one and now we're in another one, in another one.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Clyburn calling this absolutism. He's not happy about this concept.
And quite honestly, this is uh, this is probably Norman's
way of you know, getting some attention, sure, you know,
making some hay here.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And aligning himself with Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And aligning himself with Trump. Yeah, but does this have
a possibility of happening. Very doubtful, I would, I would say,
And some are saying it's not even needed. I mean,
come on, the Republicans rule the state. Democrats have their
one district in the sixth and you know it's been
that way for a long time here.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So we'll get into some of that for you this morning.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
The governor, the current governor, Henry McMaster says he's got
plans to ban junk food purchases, not all, but at
least some junk food, sugary snacks. Well, yeah, basically all
junk food from the snap programs. Is this is another
thing that's happening in more and more states across the country,
at least the calls for it, and let's face it,
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it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, that's that was an RFK junior initiative, and that
is certainly something I can agree with.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yes, already you've got states like Colorado, which is not
a conservative state by the way, Louisiana, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Texas, Florida,
they've already gotten waivers to restrict the terms of their
snap offerings.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's not conservative or a liberal.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That's healthy, healthy, and it's you know, come on, it's
it makes economic sense anyway. So we could soon be
on that list.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Uh oh.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Katrina Sheely making some noise here, the former state senator
who was ousted last time around well in the primary
by Carlisle Kennedy. She is now writing on her a
blog that, well, lawyers over the state or law makers
as you say, at the state House. So I'm blackmailed
over sexual indiscretions. Uh okay, we'll have to take a
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look at some of this.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
See what she says.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So, Katrina Sheeley, so this in addition to what we're
going through right now with RGMY.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
With RJ.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
May and Matt Leeber and are there are there others
that are being blackmailed? O? Wow, Okay, you know it's
it's it's really disheartening to see stories like this, and
we've seeing them more and more and more up in
the Upstate. A man who was a school board member
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in one district and an employee in another district. The
head of safety of retired law enforcement officer arrested yesterday
suspicion of criminal sexual conduct with a child got a
teacher in Sluta County High school teacher there also arrested
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allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student. Charleston had
a lawsuit against Big Old. I wun't even aware of this.
Charleston had sued Big Oil quote unquote over other worsening
flooding issues, arguing that these old companies knowingly and maliciously
misled us all about the dangers of greenhouse gas emissions.
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Well it does is just tossed that lawsuit. Sorry, Chuck Town.
Trump calling for a new census and one that does
not count undocumented immigrants. Now this the course of the
middle of the redistricting wars going on. Now again, we're
talking midterms here in a little over a year. I
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don't see any way you get a census done between
now and then and change anything doesn't happen. But the
fact is is that, well, if nothing else, errors in
the last census disproportionately hurt red states. We'll run down
some of those numbers for you.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I can believe that. I saw Stephen Miller yesterday and
some of the numbers he's throwing out there are ridiculous.
There's no way, there's no way Democrats gained thirty seats. No,
I don't think so either, But I would like to.
I mean, I'd like to see some accurate numbers about
how it did impact the election.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Well, I would tell you. The Census Bureau after they
took the census, did a survey afterwards, and they found
that fourteen states were either under or overcounted by a
statistically significant amount. And we'll run down those states for
a little bit later on. You'll see, Yes, red states
were more likely to be undercounted, in blue states more
likely to be overcounted.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He threatened it.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Now he's done at Trump increasing federal law enforcement's presence
in DC after a violent crime surge there, including one
very oh well well documented case here just recently, former
or a DOGE staffer. We're talking a lot about redrawing
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lines these days. Well, you've got more states now that
are looking into redrawing their congressional maps. Yeah, that list
continues to grow. Meantime, Ken Paxton, the Texas ag asking
Illinois to enforce arrest warrants against those Democrats that are
hanging out in Illinois to keep a vote from being
taken on redrawing state lines in the lone Star state.
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Of course, ILLINOI is not going to cooperate.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
In meantime.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Was it their governor who was on with Colvit last
night who essentially said, fat chance, so we don't recognize
Texas civil warrants here in Illinois. I think he was.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He has said that. I'm not sure. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Typically don't even after the fact, watch Colbert, Okay, try
not to at least. Meantime, John Cornyn, a Texas Senator,
saying that he's been talking to the FBI. They're agreeing
to locate these derelict Democrats. Well, they're not hiding. I mean,
they're they're right there, plainside. I'm not sure why you
need the FBI for that. At Israel making more noise
(08:25):
in Gaza now, the Israeli security cabinet are proving a
plan to totally occupy Gaza City as Israel makes more
moves in that part of the world. All right, friends,
we got that and more coming your way here on
this It is the Friday morning edition of Columbia's Morning News,
and it is fabulous to have you on board.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
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Speaker 5 (09:08):
Now it will be three weeks from this Sunday when
the game Cocks kick it off against Virginia Tech. Right,
three weeks from this Sunday morn Tillia. It is six
p forty two. It's good to have you on board.
I'm Gary, He's Christopher. This is Columbia's Morning News. A
lot of discussion these days, always is, but it's been
(09:28):
ramped up a lot more here recently about the solvency
of social security.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What these UH.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Analyzes are predicting. You know, we could be looking at
what upwards of maybe twenty four twenty five percent reductions
and monthly benefits for social security recipients in the matter
of just a couple of years. Well, uh again, it's
it's it's political suicide for Congress not to try to
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do something about it. And there is a bipartisan duo
on the Senate side that's been getting a bit of
attention with their ideas for shoring up the solvency of
the system. This is a Bill Cassidy, the Louisiana Republican
and Tim Kane, the Virginia Democrat who didn't Tim run
for vice president one time.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yes, y'all, member Tim.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
They are calling together for investing one and a half
trillion dollars over the next five years into an investment fund.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
That the looking long term.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Here a fund that would be given seventy seventy years
to grow. I don't know how this works. It would
be a separate investment fund from what currently exists to
the trust funds. Remember, the trust fund is the problem.
People are still working paying into Social Security, which is
why you know it won't go away. But it's that
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trust fund that makes up a difference. And as we've
talked about a lot, I mean the changing face of
well society and the workforce moving forward thanks to things
like artificial intelligence, you know, will as many people be
working paying into a fund like this, not to mention
if they're not working, how are they making a living.
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There's a whole other story right there, right so I
I I don't know how this, this is all wood
would work out. And again they're talking about giving a
fund that would be given seventy years to grow. Well,
how does that help us right now in the next
five years or four years or three years.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Not real sure, somebody is eventually going to have to
realize that. You know, maybe you take a campaign loss,
but somebody is going to have to tackle these entitlement
programs and the fact that we are slowly, slowly going
bankrupt in all of them.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And you know, again in all of the people you know,
people complaining about and we'll talk about this later on
about say the governor here following the try into a
number of states here recently and not all of them
Red states, by the way, in you know, doing a
way with snap benefits for junk food and sodas, you know,
things like that. I mean that we are are are
spending so many taxpayer dollars on that could be easily
(12:17):
eliminated other programs. This is why this is the whole
big Medicaid thing. Right, if you're a working age and
you could hold a job or at least volunteer, you're
going to have to do that to keep getting your benefit.
How much money could be saved and how much money
has been wasted over the years on that when now
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we're talking about social Security folks who you know, they
passed their working age. Yeah, some could still work if
they had to, but some can't. If you're going to
have a benefit program to try to take care of
your citizenry, quit this of perflaloist spending on this other
stuff that you don't have to spend it on, and
put into something that is necessary like this. And again
(13:01):
I say, this is a sixty six year old. You
know he's getting close to that age.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Right, maybe you should run as a one term congress
one term congressman.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, somebody's gonna do. Somebody's gonna it's more than likely
it's gonna be what it was the last time around,
the age in which you can you know, collect your
fullard time and metafit. It's gonna raise once again, more
than likely that's what happens. But something's gonna have to happen.
You can't turn your back on a big chunk of
the population, who, by the way, vote each and every time. Yeah,
(13:33):
oh yeah, right, very motivated to get to the ballot
box and folks who paid into the system all these years.
There's no fairness in that, all right, law fair in
the swamp, and this time we're talking about in the Everglades.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
At Obama appointed federal judge yesterday oring a two week
hall to construction at Alligator Alcatraz. Right, so now they're
they're grasping straws here. This as a result of a
lawsuit that claims that the federal government is in the
state of Florida is violating environmental laws. Yes, they're concerned
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about damage to the ecosystem that the project environmentally threatens
the environmentally sensitive wetlands home to protected plants and animals.
Have you ever been to the Everglades. No, it's a
pretty big place. I mean I've driven.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, we did it at one of those airboat things
one time down there. It was very cool. By the way,
I wouldn't want to have to get out of the airboat. No,
you know, but you know, it's it's it's it's it's
a big place.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And somehow the claim here is is that the construction
at Alligator Alcatraz is uh. I guess our claim is
probably it's just going to destroy the entire everglade system.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Doubtful grasping its straws.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, now, it doesn't shut down Alligator Alcatraz, and that's
not the intent. It's just trying to shut down any
new construction there.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
On.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Desanta says, well, you know this is ludicrous, but hey,
you know what it's not. It's not impacting the job
that we're doing here. Immigrants are still going to be
housed there. It's not changing anything as it currently stands.
It's just trying to stop any new construction there. Again,
this is a two week hault and we'll see where
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it goes here. It's barring installation of any new industrial
style lighting, paving, filling, excavating, or fencing. Oh, fencing, Yeah,
let's not put up a fence. You know what, do
you even need a fence around that? I'm thinking maybe
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you don't. You've got fences that are roaming the proper
right outside there all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
There. You know those screen things.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Between the gators and the pythons that they regularly hunt
down there, right, I wouldn't want to venture out of
that building.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
So it is temporary. Arguments are still pending, and but
there you got anyway grasping a strawsy yeah, everything else.
If not, if all those fails, let's let's let's say
it's gonna, you know, destroy the environment, and the everglades
are going to just go away as a result of
let's face it, what's not that big of a footprint
inside that everglade system, because it's a pretty.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Big If you're listening to Columbia's morning news on one
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once again, here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
It's fifteen minutes after seven o'clock. Head, it's Friday, August
the eighth. Appreciate you being along for the ride. I'm Gary.
Maybe not on the right, maybe you're just having that
second or third cup of coffee. We'll good morning to
you too. That's Christopher right over there. Good morning to you, sir,
Good morning to you. So the story that sucked all
the oxygen out of the room, now, for the last
one week and a half or more has been the
whole Texas fight over redistricting. You know the story, Democrats
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fled again the state of Texas. You got what John
Cornan now say, you talk to the FBI about helping
to locate these folks they're not in hiding. I'm not
sure what that's all about. Well, anyway, this is now spreading.
Of course, initially it was states like New York and California.
You said, well, we'll retaliate and redraw our lines too,
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to level things up. We'll get more Democrats in the
in Congress from our states.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And we usually only do this after the census.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
After the census, which we have other census news to
talk about this morning too, and we'll get to that.
The president's call for redoing the census and leaving out
people who aren't you know, US citizens out of the census.
That's a whole nother story. But now you've got Missouri
getting pressure from Trump to redraw their lines. I mentioned
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New York, in California, Wisconsin. Uh, they're well, Republicans control
the legislature there, so they're looking at things. Maryland Democrats
promising a response to Texas round. DeSantis says he's considering
early redrawing the lines in Florida, Ohio, they got to
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redraw their maps, uh, the court has said. And the
governor of Indiana, Mike brawn I, said earlier this week
that he'll be talking to JD. Vance and some of
the things that they'll be discussing in Indiana is maybe
redrawing lines there. So this is a this is a
movement that's growing and growing and growing now in South Carolina. Again,
we we've we've we've been doing this and you know
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we're still you know, sorting it out in the courts
right now. The latest redraw there, the one that well
made the first district down in the low Country the
Nancy may seat safer for Republicans and in the process,
as if it needed any more insurance ensure that the
sixth district would stay Democrat, it would stay Jim Clyburn territory.
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But now you've got Ralph Norman making some noise here. Norman,
who is running for governor, as you know, says he
wants the state House to redraw the state maps and
well redraw in a way that would would make that
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sixth district no longer a Democrat stronghold. Norman says he
wants this redraw his argument that a seven to nothing
Republican favored congressional map would align more with the Republicans
dominance in the State House here at home. Well, you're
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running for office and you want to make hay I
get it. No, Norman, after he made this announcement in
a press release, said that collaborant seat. Remember that's a
that's a district that goes all the way from Charleston
to Columbia.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Basically, are you suggesting it was jerrymandered? What?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Norman says that that that district is more lopsided in
a partisan way than any other district in the state,
and that's probably true. Well that is true. Yeah, you know,
but hey, now is it likely this could happen? Well, sure,
Republican control the State House. But is it is it necessary?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Is it? Is it really needed? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
You could, you know, you could jerrymander this in a
way that Republicans could pick up an extra seat in Congress.
But the state House is about have to make this happen.
And when you're in the middle of again another court
fight over your last redraw, No, no, there'll be a
whole lot of uh, there is zero appetite yeah, and
I think I think Norman knows this, but hey, it
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makes for a makes for a headline, right, gets people talking,
gets people talking about Norman. Who again, you know, it's
we lose sight of this. You know, if you listen
to this radio station, then you're at least to some degree,
you know, interested in politics, some more than others. I
get it, but you're you're you're well aware of who
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Ralph Norman is. But but we lose sight of the
fact that, you know, there's there's a lot of folks
in our state who you know that they only think
about politics when it, you know, has some sort of
a definite impact on them, or when it comes to
election time. And for some even then they don't think
a lot about it then either. But still, Ralph Norman
a well known name of the upstate, a well known
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name to folks who pay attention to politics, but to
everybody else, who's Ralph Norman. So Norman's got to, you know,
make a name for himself to a lot of South
Conians as he makes his run for governor. Here Clyburn
on CNN firing back on this. His argument was that
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this this would create more laps in line with the
majorities of the State House, the state said. He says
he's not concerned at all. He says he knows Norman
very well. He I know the governor state well, he's
as partisan Republican as he can be. But he's as
fair Republican as he can be, too. And that Norman,
he says, doesn't believe in fairness. So, as Clyburn said,
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Norm's looking for some attention, and I suspect this is
the way he's trying to get it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And he's right.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I don't know that there'd be if we have troubles
right now redrawing district maps here in our state and
trying to get it through courts. Imagine what this redraw
would look like. And then it makes Jim Clivern the victim.
Oh yeah, if he were to be drawn out of Congress.
Right Well, this is the topic of doujour, isn't it?
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Redrawing these lines? But again, as you mentioned, a redo
of the census, and we'll talk about this a little
bit later on this morning, Trump is calling for a
redo of the census, and one of the things he's
calling for is for it not to include illegal immigrants
in the census count.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We didn't used to do that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That was a Biden change, and for a very specific reason,
because states like California, New York were losing legal citizens.
They were getting out of those places because of the
Liberal policies, so they had to keep the numbers up.
To keep their numbers up in Congress. It wasn't about
these illegals being able to vote. It was just about
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representation in the House of Representatives. But it was not
only that that Trump has issues with that last census
we had. The Bureau itself has said, yeah, there were
some anomalies there. There were some statistical problems in some states,
and it more impacted red states than blue. We'll run
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down that coming up here in a on the eight
o'clock hour. So we hope you can hang out.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
With us for a while.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You use this always happening, and we'll keep you informed,
d and up to date.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
It's important to see informed these days more than ever.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
On one O three point five FM and five sixty
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Speaker 2 (24:43):
Seven forty a fuck.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Just share with me during the break that I hadn't
thought of and apparently nobody's talking about. Uh, going back
to Ralph Norman's idea about redistricting again, redrawing state lines
and basically, you know, trying to make a well all
the state's districts Republican. What happens to all those Democrat voters.
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You redraw the Jim Clyburn district, gain which stretches from
Charleston to Columbia. You redraw that. Where do those Democrat voters,
of which about forty percent of voters in the state
are Democrats, where do they go? They don't disappear, They're
going somewhere. They're going to have to go into the
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first district, the second district, you know, the Joe Wilson district,
the Nancy may District down in Charleston. They're going to
have to go somewhere. And that's going to have the well,
it's going to make those those districts now at least
more competitive.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
For Democrat voters.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You can't just take forty percent of the voters of
the state and say sorry, you don't get a vote anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
They're going to go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, but if they're diluted among that many districts, It
just it winds up reducing their voting power.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Well, if you take say the second district for example, right,
you know, Richland County heavily Democrat already, and you put
you know, somehow you draw that second district to where
it's it would would be you know, including voters from
the sixth. This is an example some think about they
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have to go somewhere, right, They got to go somewhere,
all right. The President yesterday uh signing an executive order
with the goal of preventing banks from refusing to offer
financial services to people based on their political beliefs. Can
you imagine that happened? Trump said, it happened to him.
We've heard many, many stories about that. He accused JP, Morgan, Chase,
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and Bank of America of rejecting more than a billion
dollars of his deposits for political reasons. Curtis Lofton's our
state's treasure. Now it joins us to react. Curtis, good morning,
How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm doing very well.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I'm doing good. Ahead and talked in a while. Man, Yes, sir,
this yeah, it's unbelievable to think this happened, But this
did happen.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, it happened regularly. I jumped on this in twenty
and fifteen very early, and in fact, people wouldn't believe me,
and I started speaking about it nationally and internationally. Talked
to nisil Ferrage. He was, you know, Dbank to talk
to the president about it. I talked to sedator Sam Brown,
Bank had breakfasted with him a year or two ago,
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and to hear the story's firsthand, it's just unbelievable. And
what it comes down to is there's a rule that
talks about the external risk of a bank. How do
you keep that reputational external risk down? And it's been
around for a long time, but in the Obama administration,
they weaponized it. They combined these trumped up protests outside
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of an arms manufacturer, or outside of a political organization
or outside of a pro life and they would come
bying that and the bank would then say, well, we've
been pressured, we can't take the risk. They just debanked you,
and oftentimes with no notice whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I was going to ask, I mean, how do these
banks get away with this? But I guess they were
enabled by going back to the Obama years, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And they were pressured because, like I said, if you
go back and look at the history of the whole
reputation external reputational risks was called it's you know, it's
a little neighbor's about when it started sometime around the
two thousands, and they eased it in. But it was
during that Operation Choke Point twenty thirteen that it became weaponized.
And you just had bureaucrasts working with these outsiders to say,
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we just can't have a gun manufacturers or being banked
or again pro life folks or certain religious organizations, and
nobody wants to see that type of discrimination. I think
eighty percent of South Carolinia is probably eighty percent of
Americans agree that it's a dumb thing to have done.
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And I'm very pleased that the President stepped up and
issued the strongly worded order. And I hope that there'll
be statutory changes that will, you know, make it permanent.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh, I hope.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Saul, you mentioned religious Sam brown Back, who was the
one time going through Kansas, said he was d bank
for his religious views.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He had no idea he had he had a five
ball one C three. He said, all of a sudden
It just happened and I'm you know, we're having breakfast together.
I'm watching him and you could just see in his face.
You know, he's a he's a calm demeanor kind of guy.
You could just see in his face how troubling it
was that that firmly held religious beliefs were being penalized
(29:38):
by a bank at the behest of the federal government.
And so unfortunately they overstepped and these folks, uh or
you know the bank again, you know, happened to General Flynn.
H The difference between uh, the conversation I have with
Nigel Ferrags about this and Senator brown Bank. You you
might think that Niga was more animated, and let's just say,
(30:02):
I couldn't repeat that whole conversation as a family show. Yeah,
but it happened to him and in public, and it
was he turned it around so that the whole public
got to see it, and that really picked up the steam.
So we're just glad to support the president saying that
we shouldn't discriminate in the financial industry.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know, we haven't schad, Yeah, we haven't schad in
a while, Curtis, since you have put raked over the
coals over all this stuff here over the Senate, and
one of the things that we kept hearing about was,
you know, the damage just will do to our credit.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Rady, I think we're still triple A, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We are? And my office or State treasure is statutorily
responsible for that relationship. And I have a great team
of people. I just can't tell you how good the
Treasure's off the staff is that you know, I've been
treasured for a good little while now, and we every
time we get a chance to when someone retires, and
we had good people to start with, but we really
had great professionals. And we spent more time on the
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rating agencies this year than we have in the last
thirteen years combined. And I can't tell you what a
great job they did. They present the information to these
agencies in a straightforward and honorable way. We have a
lot that all three of these national radioacies, international radiaencies
trust the Treasure's Office because when we get them information,
(31:21):
they can verify. You know, the Senate stuff, it's just
all political theater, and the Senate has immunity no matter
what they say, you can't do anything about them. But
the rating agencies. I mean these agencies rate all the states, cities, towns, universities,
they rate countries, they rate you know, the un These
are massive businesses that can be sued and they have
(31:44):
to stand on what they say, so they're very careful.
And what a great credit rating means is that everybody
listening out there gets the bridges and roads and buildings
and prisons and whatever else that their county, city or
state is building. Costs a bit less because the interest
is low.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Wer got about thirty Yeah, I got about thirty seconds left,
mister treasure. But I do want to ask you this
because at one point you said that this was going
to be it, you were going to run for reelection again.
Was it the actions over the Senate that drove you
to say I'm going to I'm going to do this again.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yes, they want to control the money. This is a
seventy five billion dollar bank at the harder state government.
It must have an elected official. It's got to have
somebody you can point to. You can't have mysterious people
in the state Senate or outside controlled in this office.
Your money is too valuable, it's too easy to flitter
it away. And we're going to look after it. We're
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going to manage it and invest it appropriately. We made
one point seven billion dollars in interest last year and
we're not going to give that advantage away. We're going
to keep it, and hopefully over the next four years,
we'll make sure that people understand the importance of an
elected state treasure so we can put that away and
so I can go back to being retired.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, state treasure, curse love. I'm always going to talk
to you, my friends.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Good catch, Yes, sir, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I have life.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
point five FM and five sixty AM WVOC. Once again,
here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
A fifteen after eight, Good morning, Good to have you.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Long for Friday, August the eighth lot of A lot
of buzz about voting these days. Huh. We were talking
about redistricting, the Ralph Norman idea to make every congressional
district in our state Republican dominated. The Texas situation, of course,
(33:37):
has been ongoing. More and more states jumping into redrawing
state lines or at least threatening to wow kind of crazy, huh.
And then we've interspersed with all that we've we've mentioned
this that the President then now has instructed the Department
of Commerce to change the way the Census Bureau collects data. Now,
(34:04):
this is an idea that first popped up a couple
of months ago, the idea that people who were not
legal US citizens should not be counted in the census.
They they weren't always right this this this happened under
the Biden administration, if I'm not mistaken. And the issue
(34:26):
was is that, well, you had more and more uh
legal US citizens who were exiting some of these big blue,
uber liberal tax heavy states like California, New York. They
were heading for friendlier climbs. A lot of people have
been head here are friendly climbs in the Palmetto state
(34:47):
here last couple of years, and uh, you know you
had knew some and the like whoa, whoa wait, this
is this is this is gonna hurt her our representation
in Congress here, We're gonna lose seats. So the Biden
(35:07):
administration says, well, we'll go count these people because they're
getting services and such, they should be counted the census.
And if you've ever wondered why you probably figured this
out a long time ago. This is why the you know,
California's and places like that, are throwing in their arms
wide open for illegal events to come there, because they
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want to keep their numbers up in Congress. They are
being counted in the census. So Trump now telling the
Department of Commerce to change the way they collect that
data that he wants the bureau to exclude immigrants who
are here illegally. Then it's again all about congressional representation.
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Trump writing the new census will be based on modern
day figures, using information that he says was gained from
the twenty twenty four presidential election. Now, this will will
face some serious legal hurdles. The fourteenth Amendment to the
Constitution requires account of the whole number of people in
each state. It doesn't differentiate between whether they're legal or
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not legal. Okay, but that wasn't the only census news
that came out yesterday at all. This Trump is also
calling for well what would be redistricting really from coast
to coast, asking for a new census ahead of the
(36:33):
next one. The next one's not scheduled to twenty thirty,
of course, he says again the census, as I just mentioned,
would would not count those who are here illegally. Now,
you even if this were to happen, this is not
going to happen before the midterms.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But all this talk just tells you how important the
midterms are and how both sides are, you know, holding
out hope that they can do well in the midterm.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
And it's not only the counting or not counting of
people who are not here as legal US citizens, but
there's also now more talk about well the last census
in twenty twenty and the problems with it. The Census
Bureau after each census, they do their own post census audit,
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they called the post Enumeration Survey, and they found that
there were some serious errors here. For example, Blue states
like Little Old Rhode Island over counted, states like Alabama undercounted.
And the fact is is that the it was just
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that twenty twenty census disproportionately hurt red states as opposed
to blue Not to say that some Blue states weren't undercounted,
but that survey, the fact, done by the Census Bureau
now found that fourteen states were either under or overcounted
by a statistically significant amount. For example, Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Mississippi, Tennessee,
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and Texas all under counted. Well, doggies, look at that.
Only one of those states is a blue state, Illinois,
but undercounted in Arkansas, in Florida, in Mississippi, in Tennessee,
and in Texas. States that were categorized as undercounted, well,
(38:47):
excuse me, yeah, another word, states that were given more
than they should have been. Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Ohio,
Rhode Island, and Utah were overcounted. I'm sorry, said undercount
(39:09):
They were overcounted. There's kind of a common denominator there
in those states, isn't there. Okay, toss utaih on for
a second. But to Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Ohio,
Rhode Island all over count of Ohio. More of a
red state certainly than the blue these days, but still
(39:29):
so yeah. Now, when it comes down to congressional representation,
five of the six states that were undercounted were controlled
by Republicans.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Five of the eight states that were overcounted were controlled
by Democrats. It's just a fact.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Okay, This isn't some kind of a you know, spinning
of numbers. These are the numbers. This was the post
enumeration survey released by the Census Bureau. This is where
they got it wrong. That has to be fixed.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
You never know when the news will drink, but leave
us on and you will. I think we want to
see more details right now. One O three point five
FM and five sixty am w VOC. This is Columbia's
Morning News with Gary David and Christopher Thompson on one
O three point five FM and five sixty am w VOC.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
There is a party in time for the final thoughts
for Friday morning, August the eighth. First up, Well, yes,
it's it's over now. The Great Wrong Way Airports Signed
Crisis of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh, you finally got something done there.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I got a call yesterday text from an old friend
of mine who I'd forgotten. Is a you know, one
of the one of the higher ups over there dot
he said, Man, one of his, one of his folks,
call him, says Gary David is blowing us up over
this thing.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Uh, A nice long conversation yesterday morning. Good to catch
up with him, he said, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, the the contractors were supposed to have taken that
signed down like a week and a half ago. Wow, typical, right,
So I think dot just you know, they leaned really
heavy on somebody out and did it himself. So that
that that wrong way airports sign for near my house
off of I twenty at number one has been taken down.
(41:26):
A new one with the right direction should be up soon.
And by the way, for those of you who use
that intersection, I'm kind of really localized and hyper localizing here.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
But they said the work on that all should be
done by the end of this month. So that's good. Ago.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I guess Hard Scrabble Road is supposed to be done.
We talked about that while you were out on Wednesday. Yes,
it's they said. The wet weather's the only thing that's
keeping them from finishing the intersection of Hard Scrabble and
Clemson and then they're done.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Okay, good, good, good well.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
And by the way, something else that he mentioned to me,
and I really appreciated this is because some folks have
asked man, that whole number one interchange there is. It's
kind of well, wacky thing with this all. They did
some things to try to reduce the amount of properties
they would impact, you know, folks who own property there
though some have been certainly, but it may be a
(42:13):
little odd because but that was why they didn't want
to take, you know, over basically any more land they
had to there. So I appreciated that. Okay, So that
crisis over. People no longer to be driving at a
downtown election to trying to find the airport.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
All right.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
The governor issuing an executive order limiting the use of
SNAP dollars to buy chunk food and sugary drinks, well
here here to that, thank you. So far as six
states have gotten their waivers this year to restrict the
terms of their SNAP offerings. Colorado, Okay, this is not
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this is not a red blue state thing. Colorado, Louisiana, Oklahoma,
West Virginia, Texas, Florida. Already you had states like Nebraska, Iowa, Indiana, Arkansas, Idaho,
and Utah that have had pre existing waivers.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And wow, what kind of late to the game here,
aren't we?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
And this is just common sense?
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yes, I mean, number one, it's a hell thing. And
number two, it's all right. If you've got to give
up taxpayer dollars as a benefit to somebody, you should
have some control over what they can buy with it.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
I mean, come on, I mean every study we have
and the latest came I think it came out yesterday
talking about all the processed foods we're eating and how
bad they are for us. Well, and then you're as
a government, you're paying for people to buy these empty calories,
right that shouldn't be no.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Fitz News reporting that Katrina Sheeley, who was primaried out
last election by Carlile Kennedy, on her new blog it's
called Politics under the Dome and she Eats says as
a former state senator who served for a dozen years,
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she says, I can tell you there's a lot that
goes on behind the scenes that the public never hears about.
That the recent headlines about personal misconduct have surely caused
a lot of anxiety and squirming at home for many.
Now she's referring to sexual indiscretions and trying to make
a case in this blog she says that lawmakers are
(44:29):
being blackmailed over these sexual indiscretions. Oh do tell well,
that's worth a follow right there.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
And I'm sure she's still a little resentful of the
boys club as it were, excluding her this time around.
But I mean, based on the stories we've seen the
last couple of months. Would it surprise.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
You, No, it wouldn't at all. She talked about every
night at the state capital, the influence, the invitations to
special interest receptions, other events that are applied with alcohol,
campaign contributions, servile flattery, and hopes of being swayed certain ways.
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That could be a story from twenty years ago, right,
or thirty or forty or fifty or twenty from now
more than likely, she writes. The end result, let's just
say it's not all that dissimilar to the sort of
drunken debauchery that takes place in the die bars in
five points.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Wow. Okay, Katrina Sheley off the top rope.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, I mean that I think twenty years ago, with
thirty years ago, we've had stories like this where you
would hear about these certain bars and restaurants where you
knew legislators were hanging out and all kinds of I mean,
they're out of town, they're quote uncle working out of town,
and they seem to some of them, seem to take advantage.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Okay, it's over. The illegal immigration problem is done because
Superman is now an Ice agent. Yeah, Dean Kane announcing
he's joined ice. Wow, Okay, that's it, you know, I mean,
that's it. It's done.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Now. He sounds fairly serious, he is. Oh yeah, he's
not one of these celebrities who gets the honorary badge.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And this is not Shaquille O'Neil with it. Well though
Shaquill nill was pretty sious about it too.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, I know he was. But there are others who
just collect the badges.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
But no, no, Dean Kane, he is, he is serious.
I am a sworn law enforcement officer.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
How about that now?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Now, in the meantime, DHS announced earlier this week they're
removing age limits for new hires.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
For ICE recruits, it.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Was you had to be twenty one and no older
than thirty seven or forty. They're talking about reducing the
age to eighteen, which seems a little odd to me. Yeah,
just just a bit AI quick mention here. James Cameron,
one of his better known film franchises, the Terminator series, sure,
(47:15):
saying that we are facing three existential threats, nuclear weapons,
climate crisis, and super intelligence. Cameron warning of a Terminator
style apocalypse if AI is weaponized. That's that's the thing
that comes to mind. Every time you think about AI weaponization,
(47:39):
you see that, you see those those those terminator things
right in your mind.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Now again, this guy makes movies.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
And how often does he use it? I mean, he's
got one of the new what was the Blue People?
The Blue Man Group? No, the movie with the all
the blue people, have no idea the movie. He's got
a new one coming out, Oh does he? Yeah? You
tell I'm totally out of touch with modern day Hollywood.
I just wonder how many times he used dayye to
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make one of those movies.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Whoa, I'm probably a lot. So he's got a movie
with all the blue people in it. Huh, you don't.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'm not familiar with that at all.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
You'd know it if I said it Avalon Oh that one, yes, okay,
I'll blue people.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, all right, thank you. Maybe he should change the
name of it.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's called now called the movie Avatar. Avatar.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Oh Avatar, Yes, that's right, Avatar. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
I didn't see the first one or two or seven
or whatever it was. Okay, all right, And a parrot
blew the this was this was this is bad charges
against fifteen people, drug trafficking, gang operations and more. After
a parrot trained to mimic drug related phrases, played it
in a likely role in helping British cops dismantle a
(48:51):
narcotics network. Apparently, the parrot was hanging out and was
listening and there's a phrase, I guess it's some drug
phrase two for twenty five, some common language used by
this organized drug crime ring. And you have the parrot
picked up on it and well started squawking two for
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twenty five. When the cops showed up, whoops, busted.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
The parrot. No, not the parrot, everybody else