Show Rewind 10-23-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Esuous.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hell yeah, Sames America and yll for regious or nation God,
and this is wrong.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
W VOC wasn't really ready yet. Hang on, man, I'm
still law I'm still multijasking over here. Oh is it?
It's this time?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's time.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I was afraid you will say that. Well, good morning,
welcome in. It is fourteen after six, so I was
expecting to get to be fifteen after six before I
had to come on.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Uh, it's fifteen after six?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Is it now? Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It is?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I gotta I gotta go to Oorica ready or not?
Here we go?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh, how are you mag Good morning? I'm I'm exhausted.
I just I couldn't wake up this morning, one of
those mornings. So yeah, I even hit the snooze button,
which I rarely do.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I couldn't go to sleep. Lot. Well, no, I take
that back. I did my usual you know, not off
on the couch thing, which I know is horrible for you.
Then you haven't get into bed and sleep psycle and
all that, and no wonder, I'm miserable. All the time, right,
you do when you when you work these hours, you're
miserable all the time. That's for you. But yeah, and
I got a bet and I couldn't nod off for

(01:25):
some reason. Really, it's not used. I don't usually have
that problem. Man, it hits pillow out right now. It's
I wasn't one of those. That's all. I know. Got
things to do, don't we We'll push through. I wish
we will. We'll power through, the infamous words of Hillary Clinton.
Will power through. That's what caffeine is for, exactly. It's
now sixteen after six So let's get to it. The rundown,

(01:47):
the big stories, the hot topics for Thursday, October the
twenty third. Okay, how cool would it be if you decided,
you know what, I'm not making enough money here, I'm
gonna give myself a pay raise. Well, that's what you know,
legislators of the State House can do. But can they
do it the way they did it in the last session.
We've talked about this quite a bit when it took place,

(02:09):
and now the State Supreme Court is hearing the case. Well,
I can legislators give themselves a pay raise and have
it take effect? Before the next election cycle. Okay, so
this self imposed pay increase one that well, the critics
called unconstitutional, and that well, Senator west Climber went so

(02:33):
far as to well sue the body he works for
in the House too. Over this Supreme Court's heard the arguments.
Now it's up to them to decide whether or not
to this pay raise sticks. And I guess in the meantime,
as a result of all this, the legislators weren't getting paid.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
They're not getting a dime rate, they're not getting anything. No,
it sounds like it's all going to come down to
one word or they're parsing words that pay. Well, it's
expenses versus I guess the word that they used. And
I'm trying to remember which word they used in their
in the legislation they passed. I don't know, but the

(03:13):
Supreme Court was very specific about that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, the Constitution's very specific for the record, Article three,
Section nineteen. No General Assembly shall have the power to
increase the per diem. Oh, maybe that's what the sticking
point is.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hyeah, there you go, the.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Per diem of its own members. So they're just going
to call us something different than parse words, don't you
wish you get away that in your life. Sure, right,
looks like maybe this maybe going to happen, the restart
of the VC summer plant expansion. New signs of life

(03:51):
for this thing now. A letter from Santie Cooper over
to the State House earlier this week saying that they're
about to sign a de here with another private company
to complete the construction. Are we really that close to
this thing happening again.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
And private companies footing the funds they're fitting the bill?
Do we really know that that's right?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You hear private company and that's you you that's the
conclusion you've automatically jumped to, right, But is that what
it's really going to be? Well, we'll have to take
a take a closer look at this again. A. This
is a good thing because if for no other reason,
thanks to the influx of people moving here and the
influx of these big data AI centers, we need the

(04:37):
power generated. So A it's good. B. Well, how it's
going to be paid for? We'll have to find out
then we can pass judgment on whether that's good or not. Right,
we remember the last time around. Are things getting worse
for Nephron Pharmaceuticals? Now apparently there are egregious violations showing

(04:58):
up in FDA in space actions of the pharmaceutical giant
over in Lexingon County.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
And the state newspaper reports these have been year after
year after year to the point that you know, I know,
I know experts sometimes have slanted opinions, but there's one
expert quoted in this state news paper article that says,
you know, they'll be surprised if the company's not shut down.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it has been an over and over again thing
for Nephron.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
How do you if you know the FDA is coming
after you, how do you not correct those mistakes? So
at least you can pass muster If.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You have a restaurant and the and I was almost said,
d heck Department of Health, what if we call it
now here in the state comes by time after time
after time and slaps a C or a D up
on your window. Yeah, you go out of business at
some point, right, right, because it's bad for business. Right,
you fix it, or you go out of business.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But this this they can actually shut them down period,
or at least force them to stop making the pharmaceuticals
that are impacted.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And some of the pharmaceutis are bring in the contributing
most of the bottom line over there. So all right,
following that this morning snap benefits you know, food stamps
for more than a quarter million households in our state.
Those households being told to get ready for the impact
as those benefits will expire next month. That as long

(06:26):
as this government shutdown continues, it's going to be a
diversion program, not a trial for the woman accused of
starting that Carolina Force wildfire earlier this year. We just
were talking yesterday. That trial was supposed to start yesterday,
but it's dead. It's a diversion program, no jail time.
Up of the Upstate where it's been the hotbed of

(06:48):
measles activity. Well, the state decided to roll out a
free mobile vaccination clinic to get folks immunized. A wopping
seven people showed up to get the immunization. Wow, yeah, right, seven,
that was it. Let's stay in the f date for
a second faculty at Clemson University passing a resolution affirming

(07:13):
academic freedom and rejecting political pressure. Okay, sure you'll have
fun with that. Have fun with that. Yeah, and that
shutdown rolls on. What do we know day twenty three, Yes, yeah,
I got that clock around here somewhere, twelfth time yesterday

(07:34):
for the twelfth time Democrats blocking the attempt to reopen
the government, Chuck Schumer and his cronies keeping it shut down.
This is the twelfth time that they've done that. Now again,
a lot of this is over healthcare, right costs, subsidies
for Obamacare. John McLoughlin, who is a Trump poster, out

(08:01):
with a new poll that says, uh uh Obamacare subsidies.
Extending them is going to be key for Republicans ahead
of the midterms. Here's something that gets kind of lost
in the shuffle here, you know, with all the criticis
maybe because it was called Obamacare, right, and it is,
you know, in in way he's been a disaster. But
but but regardless, it's something that's relied on by a

(08:23):
lot of Americans and by a lot of people who
vote Republican. I know, I think sometimes well only Democrats
will in Obamacare. No, a lot of Republican households rely
on this for their health insurance needs. So yeah, it's
it's not not a good thing anyway, all right. Uh more,

(08:47):
sanctions from both the US and the EU against Russia,
some of the most massive sanctions yet we're told, how
did how did we get here? How did we go
from from from meeting in Finland and weeks to this? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, I mean twenty four hours ago, there were still
talks of Okay, this summit is going to happen. Maybe
it includes both Putin and the Ukrainian leader, maybe it doesn't,
but at the very least it's Trump and Putin sitting down.
And then yesterday you started getting rumblings from the White
House about you know, Trump's not happy with Putin, that
the foreign secretaries have talked, the Secretary of State's talked,

(09:23):
there's no reason for us to get together. And by
the end of the day we had sanctions.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, massive sanctions. Tropical Storm Melissa still a tropical storm,
but expected to become a hurricane and a dangerous one
they say maybe as much as a Category four. Expect
this to attain hurricane statusfied tomorrow. So this is problems
developing for Jamaica, for Haiti, for the Dominican Republic, but

(09:48):
not for the US. It doesn't look like again, this thing,
once it moves to the Caribbean, is going to head
straight north and stay well off our shore, and we
just did it. Another record. The national debt now has
surpassed thirty eight trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
There's no good reason for that, and no good news
coming out of that. I know they're even economists out
there say none of that number doesn't really make Yes,
it does.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, it does. We just act like it doesn't. We
just keep raising it, all right, friends, We'll get to
that and more coming up on this. Since the Thursday,
October twenty third edition of Columbia's Morning News, and we
are happy to have you with us.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
You never know when the news will break, but leave
us on and you will.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I think we want to see more details break now
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Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's six thirty eight. Good morning to you. Hope you're
right thursdays off of Just start a little nippy outside.
Let's check Cedar Creek. Cedar Creek forty one degrees this morning.
Typical cold spot around these parts and it looks to
be all orangeburgs at forty one Hopkins forty degrees, and

(11:17):
typically between now and about sunrise it dips a bit,
so we may see for the first time in a
long time, somebody around here getting the into the thirties
here before this commuter's over this morning. It's that time. Friends.
I think my old, my old theory about you know,
second week of the Fharanohl holds true once again.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Looks looks pretty smart right now.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, So the FBI yesterday posting a new surveillance video
putting this upon x showing previously unseen footage of the
suspect who plan of those pipe bombs nearly nearly five
years ago outside the DNC and the RNC and DC.

(12:07):
That was January fifth, twenty twenty one, of course, the
day before JA six. I'm a little confused here. Has
the FBI just now gotten this videotape or they had
it all along and are just now releasing it trying

(12:31):
to get more information. Here's a half a million dollar
reward for information leading to an arrest of this suspect.
Why if you've had this all along, why now? Why
release it just now? Why wasn't this released you know,
five years ago or even last year? Or whenever something

(12:59):
just seems a little squirreling to me about all this.
I don't know. Luckily, I neither one of those pipe
bombs you know that were discovered caused any any any
any issues for for anybody. It could have been deadly certainly.

(13:20):
And remember at that time, uh Kamala Harris says VP
elect was actually inside the DNC offices when it was discovered.
I don't know, this has been a this is this
is one of these stories that just doesn't give you
a whole lot of faith in the in the FBI.
And now I realize from that moment up until this

(13:40):
past January, it was the Biden FBI in charge of things.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
But you had a well their office was targeted too.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, couple, I mean this was one of them. The
whole again, the well, this wasn't the FBI involved in investigating.
But remember the Supreme Court leak over the decision that
overturned Roe v. Wade. Never discovered who was responsible for
that either, But that was the Supreme Court doing that

(14:13):
investigating and whatever investigative agency is involved in all that.
But okay, I realized it's not right to quite the
JFK conspiracy level I get it, but still very odd. Now.
Didn't mention this yesterday, but at a pressor a couple

(14:35):
of days ago, a number of Democrat lawmakers announced their
intentions to create a master ice tracker in order to
track and document ICE operations not just by eyes, but
by customs and Border patrol and by other law enforcemententities.

(15:00):
Robert Garcia, a California Democrat ranking member House Overside Committee,
saying that this track will be located on the Overside
Committee's website. Really now, whether or not it's on the
the general Overside Committee website or the Democrat site is

(15:22):
a bit unclear, but does it matter. Think about this
for a second.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Here we have.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Democrat lawmakers posting on a government on a on a
congressional website. There are intentions at least to do this
a tracker so that you'll always know where ICE operations
are taking place. We're getting set to this boggles the mind.

(15:54):
Man and ladies. You cat your own elected representatives now
that are openly blatantly putting law enforcement at great risk
and in the process helping people who shouldn't be in

(16:18):
this country evade capture. And I'm talking specifically about those
who are violent criminals with violent backgrounds. M Garcia says,
We're going to be tracking every single instance that we

(16:41):
can verify, instance that the community will be able to
send us information on, and expects us to be launched
over the next couple of weeks. I gotta say, this
is uh, yeah, you know your wildest dreams that I
would imagine that leaders in Congress of a party would

(17:04):
be openly waging war against law enforcement doing law enforcement stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
But how many times have we said that in the
last six months, right over.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And over and over again. So we've gone from you know,
leadership in big blue cities being upset about this now
to members of Congress actually aiding and a betting criminals criminals.

(17:37):
For example, if Representative Garcia had his way, five people
who were arrested on Canal Street, New York City would
still probably be roaming about the streets of New York.
Five individuals from Malley, who was previously arrested for crimes

(18:04):
including assault, recklessly endangering, counterfeiting, third degree criminal sale, narcotics,
resisting arrest, making false reports would still be on the streets.
Another from Senegal, prior arrest for domestic violence, robbery, receiving
stolen property, burglary, fraudulent the costing, forgery, counterfeiting, it's hill

(18:28):
of a controlled substance, and the list goes on, would
still be on the streets in New York City. Another
one from Senegal, Two more, three more, actually five individuals
again with some with rap sheets longer than your arm,

(18:54):
among those who were taken off the streets of New
York City on that Canal Street raid the other day,
Actually more than five in each of them. In each case, well,
I should say at least five of these cases. These

(19:14):
were men released into the country under Joe Biden's watch.
You know, you show up, well, here's here's a court date.
And we've seen the stories how sometimes those court dates
are you know, four or five, six, seven years in
the future. Just show up there in the meantime, you know,
feel free to carry out your business. And they've been

(19:35):
doing that, carrying out their business. So there you go.
I mean, we're talking counterfeiting, drug trafficking, drug possession, forgery,
domestic violence, robbery, burglary. But no, the Democrats continue to say, yeah,
they're only there. Wells, as Representative Garcia said when he

(19:56):
talked about this, this upcoming Ice tracker that Ice has
been arresting American citizens because they look like me, says
because they're a Latino origin. I'm not a single one
of these I just mentioned was the Latino origins. This
is just this is insanity here now, Will will Ice

(20:20):
will these raids sometimes maybe wind up taking into custody
somebody who maybe should have. Yeah, sure it's gonna have
mistakes are made. But the Democrats would like you to
believe that in each and every case that they're making mistakes,
and they're just in the middle of the night knocking

(20:40):
down doors and dragging out, you know, law abiding American
citizens and deporting them to who knows where m And
again this begs the question, are the Democrats so hell

(21:03):
bent on allowing people to be here who aren't here
legal and including again violent.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Criminals, especially when they know the election last November hinged
on that very issue right right exactly. You know you're
on the wrong side of the issue with the American people,
no matter what you believe, Yes, you're on the wrong side,
and yet you continue to embrace it.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I can only think of two reasons. Either A, you're
trying your best from within to undermine this country, to
destroy the fabric of our society and our nation.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Or B.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
You're doing it again because you want to stay in
power even if these folks can't vote. Oh they've tried.
We just talked about tech the other day. Twenty seven
hundred and some odd illegal aliens on voter rolls in
the Lone Star State. But you don't even need them

(22:09):
to vote. You just need them to be counted in
the census so you can keep up your numbers in
the House of Representatives. Well, Donald Trump's got some ideas
on that. We didn't always count illegal immigrants in the census.
We didn't, as a matter of fact, not until Joe
Biden came along. And we know exactly why that was.
And then you can back it up a step further.

(22:30):
Why do you need these people in your states? Because
law abiding American citizens are fleeing your states because well,
the policy is just like this, The taxation, the wokeness,
the lack of protecting your citizenry is leading all these
again tax paying American citizens, whether they were born here

(22:53):
or not. But American citizens, law abiding are getting out.
And this is what you're left with. It's like Escape
from New York the movie. All right, so there you go.
How about that? How about them apples? Huh? A member
of Congress. Members of Congress wanting to put on a
congressional website a tracker, so you know, violent illegal immigrants,

(23:18):
criminals can know exactly what Ice is up to and
evade them. That's kind of the wrong side of the issue,
I think where the Democrats keep falling on the wrong
side of it.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
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Speaker 4 (23:42):
Once again, here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's fourteen minutes past the hour of seven o'clock morning.
Tell you for Thursday, October the twenty third. Yeah, that
that temperature dip is is occurring thirty nine now at Hopkins.
So we've hit the thirties first time in a long time.
It's invigor ready, man, I love it. And by the way,
if you've heard about Melissa, which is probably gonna become

(24:07):
a Cat four something, maybe even a Cat five. The
storm is brewing down to the Caribbean, no worries apparently
for us.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
When does it hit, say Jamaica.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Well, it's like this really slow moving thing. Man, that's
that's the problem. They're expecting it to be a hurricane,
maybe on a major one by tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Is this rain that we might have next week, is
that have anything to do with Melissa?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, you're asking it wrong, dude, Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm sure Tyler will tell us tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, it's we're not talking about like, you know, torrential
tropical kind of rain, just a cold rain next Yeah,
I guess right, Okay, Yeah, I was just trying to
look here the Yeah, this thing is just meandering down there.
But this is this is bad news for Jamaica, Cuba,

(25:03):
the dr more so HATI than the Dominican Republic on
that west side of the island of Hispaniola. But yeah,
so I look at it, a whole bunch of rain
and potent potentially a Cat five. But the longer term
forecast models have this thing making a turn north and
uh and then back out into the Atlantic and not
affecting us. Again. Again, what a wacky hurricane season this

(25:28):
has been.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, and apparently according to Mitch West, the guy we
track on an axe, yeah, it's farther east this morning
than projected.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, I haven't checked out Mitch yet this morning to
look into that. Yeah, it's it's going to take a
turn east, another turn as a hurricane, which looks suspicious
to me. But uh again, long range spaghetti noodle plots
have it heading back out to the Atlantic at some
point in time. Let's hope they're right. They've been right

(25:59):
so far this year. Okay, I wonder what they're thinking
over is it Colorado State University where they do the
In addition to know what put up the hurricane forecast,
I'm thinking back and look at what theirs was because
it was supposed to be a disastrous hurricane season for us.
That still could be anyway. All right, back to the
news of the morning. Now, in a show of solidarity,

(26:23):
Clemson University faculty passing a resolution affirming academic freedom and
rejecting political pressure. Well, this is symbolism at its best,
good for y'all, this resolution rejecting attempts to get not
just Clemson but other schools as well to agree to

(26:45):
a list of demands and exchange for guarantees of federal funding,
as though you're actually in charge of that. So it
is all symbolic. They had a meeting up there, faculty,
the faculty Senate two days ago to discuss budget cuts
academic freedom pending state legislation, but again also the political

(27:09):
pressure to as this article The Posting Courier puts it,
align universities, including Clemson, with a partisan agenda. You know,
as if the White House and the administration is telling
these universities you have to teach you know, right wing ideology.

(27:33):
Uh no, they would like these universities to stop teaching
left wing ideology and you know, just just teach, just
teach our kids how to be successful of the world,
as opposed to try to trying to radicalize them. Well, yeah,
by the way, they'd like you to, you know, again,

(27:55):
not to do what would you used to call politically
incorrect right years ago, you know, getting up on social
media and posting things like we had, you know, professors
at Clemson post about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That
we've had professors and staff at universities across the country

(28:18):
post about Jewish folks, the anti Semitic post that we've
seen that would have at one time been considered politically incorrect,
but today on the left, that's considered to be fair game. Man.
This is what the administration is hoping to achieve here again,
how is that a partisan agenda? But that's what they

(28:41):
call it. So there you have it. Uh, these this
is this is really shaking these the professorial professorial ranks
to the core because since they've been teaching, once they
got tenured, you know, they've been able to say or
do anything they've wanted to say or do all these years,

(29:03):
nothing could touch them.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
And they're trying now to reaffirm their right to make
fun of another right wing person who gets assassinated, right exactly, and.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Then you get upset when somebody in your ranks does
just that and gets the boot for it. Yeah, they've
sat in these hallowed halls, enshrined themselves in the world
of academia, which by the way, ain't nowhere close to
the real world, as you know, and felt like they
could do whatever they wanted to do. And now that

(29:33):
they're realizing they can't, they're kind of freaking out a
little bit. Okay, so this is again a symbolic measure. Well,
they can do it, but Clemson can also choose to
fire them for it. Right, if you want to get mad,

(29:54):
if somebody get mad at your employer, Donald Trump didn't
fire those two professors and that one staff or a
glim Clemson did that.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
You can say anything you want, but if Clemson decides
that your message shouldn't be heard by students, they they
can take you out.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Reflecting poorly on their brand. They'll take action, as they did,
And good for them for doing that. All right, So
let's let's do a symbolic stuff right pilot. It looks
like they got a buyer. Mention this in the rundown,

(30:31):
that there's new signs of life for the plant expansion
out in Jenkinsville at the VC Summer plant, the one
that cost you and me taxpayers and repayers want about
ten billion dollars for nothing for a hole in the ground. Well,
looks like now there's a buyer for this thing. I'm good.

(30:52):
Good for Santie Cooper, good for Tom Davis, good for
the folks who have been pushing.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
This, as long as it doesn't cost us any more money.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
And from what we understand so far, I know I'm
hedging my I'm not putting my money on the table
yet here, Okay, but it looks like, you know, we
don't get hos this time.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It looks like I mean, I realize eventually, if it's
going to be for us, we're gonna have to put
some funds in. But for now, let a private company
deal with it, right, deal with how to bring it
online and how to somehow make it feasible. And if
they can do that, then they deserve to make some
money out of it, and they will.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah. Well published reports that they have got a buyer.
There was news that Santie Cooper when they held a
closed door meeting about a month ago to discuss this.
They said they'd received some fourteen proposals and they ask

(31:53):
each bidder to explore possible collaborative submissions. And as the
last month that were reported three consort proposals that they
were considering, and word is they got somebody. The letter

(32:13):
to senators from Santi Cooper's CEO, Jimmy Stateton. In the
near future, additional information will be provided to the Board
of Directors, along with recommendations on how to proceed. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.
The details are apparently going to be shared with the
board members at their meeting tomorrow we'll take place here

(32:37):
in Columbia. I'll be curious to hear in the note
the Membo. They talk about generating thousands of jobs in
the short term, generating highly skilled, permanent operational positions on
the long term. They'll mention of AI here. By the way,
I don't though we trust AI with our nuclear plans
at this point, hope not calling it an all around

(33:00):
win win for South Carolina. And uh, it looks like
again Santie Cooper's gonna stay out of it. They say,
involving a private party is a new model for nuclear
construction that will protect rate payers. So uh, let's hope
that's the way it's going to come down. And quite

(33:22):
you know, I was skeptical you were going to get
any any private company or groups of companies to come
in here and do this thing. But you know, maybe
maybe part of the lure here for them is again
we go back to what we talked about yesterday, and
that is these these data farms and uh again we're uh,

(33:45):
we're all in here in South Carolina on this. So
maybe these private companies looked at that and thought, well,
you know, it's it's it's built in business here. Sure
we have built in demand and it's only going to
get bigger, So this is going to be profitable for us.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, I don't think there's any state right now that's
not looking for ways to find more energy. So I
don't know that that's necessarily the entire reason, but I
have a feelings it's got to be a deal. I mean,
you've already got something started, right, Well, that's true. Yeah,
I mean there's a lot you don't have to do.

(34:19):
Now you're gonna have to restart the project, but you know,
at the very least, you don't have to you know, site,
you don't have to look for sites, and you don't
have to clear land and get regulatory approvals. Yeah, I mean,
this is all kind of laid out for you already.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Just come out and start building. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
And even a lot of the pieces are there, you
just got to dust them off figure out where they go.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, again, so far, it looks as though this is
nowhere near resembling the boondoggle that was the first time around.
We'll see, we'll see. Yeah, I'm not again, I'm I'm
just telling you what it looks like right now. I
ain't making no promises.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
The conversation begins here. The society problem people ack nowadays,
they don't think they've just act.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
One O three point five FM, five sixty AM w VOC.
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Three point five FM and five sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Seven thirty eight. Now our pleasure to have you with
us here on Thursday morning, October the twenty third. We're
not this weekend, but uh next weekend? Time change weekend
right November second? Yep, yep, yep. So Halloween weekend. Yeah,
the weekend the weekend after Halloween, which is on Friday, right, Well.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's I mean, it's Halloween's part of that weekend. You know,
why are you coming back at me on this one?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
This has become how and I was talking about this
this just the other day. It's like Halloween has become
more of an adult thing than a kid thing these days. Right,
I have never seen so many homes decorated up. Some
people are spending more more time, energy and effort and

(36:11):
decorating for Halloween they are for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Wow, it's a I mean, it's a lot of times
your Christmas decorations are the same ones you've had year
after year, whereas it seems like a lot of people
get something new for Halloween.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Every year. Yeah, it's it's. It's it's because it just
seems like it's become more of an adult thing now
these days. I don't know about your neighborhood. I mean,
you're you live in a bigger neighborhood than I do.
But we just don't have trigger treaters basically anymore where
I live, which is okay by me because it means

(36:45):
I get to eat all the candy that we.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Still have a lot of kids, I don't think we
have as many as in the years past.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, well, you know, we're not as trusting as we
used to be. Are we true as parents and such?
I'm way past that of course anyway. Okay, so all right,
so I'm going with Halloween weekend is when the time change.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Halloween is part of that weekend, so I think we
can call it Halloween weekend.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
All right, We'll go with that. What's going on in Nephron?
Speaking of scary stuff, this is a you know, one
of the Midland's biggest employers, and we had the news
just in the last couple of months that they had
put their headquarters up for sale. Now, the idea was

(37:25):
that they're going to sell it and then lease it back,
but that you raised a few eyebrows. We know, in
the past year or two there have been issues with
some of what they've have been producing over there, and
I guess what was the the Pentagon had advised or
the VA administration had advised their patients not to take

(37:47):
a certain I don't remember why it was, but a
certain pharmaceutical they were manufacturing. Had to come out and said, yeah, no,
huh huh, that's awful list, We're not doing that one.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
The state paper, years after warnings from the FDA, Nephron
sees egregious violations and inspection this on this most recent
inspection report. Again, this is not something new here. They've
been getting dinged for the same issues year after year. Yeah,

(38:24):
like the strility of their drug doses. Yeah, kind of important.
The latest report showing that the Nephron still doesn't have
any kind of a system in place or systems to
ensure that their products are made in a sterile environment.
That's kind of you know, like ground level entry kind

(38:46):
of stuff, right, You know, you would think also saying
that Nephron has failed to properly address those issues, I
guess not if they haven't fixed it, they failed to
address it.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Why if the FDA is coming down on you, you
year after year, would you not fix I mean again,
as you pointed out, there's already been one advisement, you know,
don't take anything that they've made in this particular field.
Why would you hurt your own business as well as
risk you know, potential punishment from the government by keeping

(39:20):
doing keeping on doing what you're doing or.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Not doing I don't know. Is it a cost thing? Well,
I mean the cost of not the cost of not
doing it? Is you could you could lose the business?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, is a thumb in your nose at the government thing?
I I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well, again, this is a story because how many people
are employed by that wrong?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Uh so it's uh yeah, it's it's a big story
around here. But yeah, that's a real head scratch. It
would be the analogy earlier today. Then you know, if
if the Department of Health walks into your restaurant and finds,

(40:09):
you know, roaches in.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
The kitchen or whatever, which happens.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Which happens. Oh, I still work in restaurants when I
was a kid. Trust me, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Read those reports that come out.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Right, Well, you fix the issue, or you know you're
going to keep getting that see on your front door.
And I mean again, I guess at some point that
they could just shut you down. But in the meantime,
you're shutting yourself down. Yeah, who wants? Who wants to eat? There?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
A lot of people look at those ratings and think,
you know what, I'll go someplace else.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, right, exactly. So it's it's yeah, it's it's really curious.
Why again, maybe they just have felt like I'm just
speculating here. I don't know. Again, they you say, the
thumbing their nose at the Feds, they are not gonna
do anything about it. We're too big to fail. What's

(41:03):
a big risk to take? There isn't it.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, And we don't know how big they are anymore.
I mean, we don't know what they're still making.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah. So this this new report out is nearly three
years after they've gotten two separate warnings from the FDA.
Uh again, warning letters are formal notifications that you are
violating federal laws. And three years later they haven't come

(41:33):
up with a way to fix it.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Okay, Well, let's hope they get it fixed, because, like
you said, there are a lot of and they've spent
a lot of money in this area sponsoring different things. Absolutely, yeah,
investing and in good community. Parker kind of need them to,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
And I know I've I hear from some folks from
time to time, and this is the whole you know,
crony capitalism argument and such. I get it. But they
they are, you know, contributing in ways to to our
economy right here. Certainly, now the Supreme Court hearing arguments
over the legislative pay raise. Now, remember it is a

(42:10):
oka matter of fact, if the legislature doesn't vote themselves
a pay raise, they would never get one. They're in
charge of the purse strings, and they are certainly allowed.
Maybe it's not, you know, sometimes politically the best thing
to do, depending on the economy and such. But they're

(42:31):
allowed to vote themselves a pay raise, there's no question
about that. But what they did in this last session
was different. They vote themselves a pay raise to be
put into effect in this legislative.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Session before the next election, before the next.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Election in November. Right that you're not allowed to do
any pay raise you vote in and for obvious reasons, Right,
you're not guaranteed you're going to be sitting in that
chair after the next election, so any pay raise you
vote for doesn't take effect until after the next election
of the next session is seated. But that's not what
they did this time around, and that, well, it's to

(43:09):
ticked a bunch of folks off. Didn't seem to take
off too many in the state House except for well,
notably West Climber, the state Senator from rock Hill, who
filed a lawsuit, said you can't do that, it's unconstitutional.
The state Constitution is very specific for the record. It's
Article three, section nineteen. No General Assembly shall have the

(43:33):
power to increase the per diem of its own members,
meaning in that legislative session, the next legislative session, after
the next election. Okay, but you can't do it for
yourself in the current term. It's pretty cut and dry,

(43:54):
it would seem. But again it does use the word
per diem. Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Those who support the increase argue that, well, uh, for starters,
it didn't go to their pay right, it went to
the money. I mean, because they get a basic salary,
but then they get money to reimburse them for what
they spend in Columbia when they have to stay here

(44:27):
and eat here and then they also get money to
use in their disrestricts. And that's what went up right.
It was almost like the House was saying, all right,
here's a workaround. M we want to increase our base pay,
but because of inflation, we will be able to pass along. Okay,
here's more money that you have to spend now and

(44:48):
doing things for your constituents in your own district. There
maybe some who don't do that, Well, yeah you don't.
You don't have to give any receipts.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
No, you don't. You don't know whether it was spent
or not. So there commend of people who support this
say that, well, that money is local money. It should
be in a separate category from what they earn when
the state houses in session from January to May. So really,
you've gouts splitting hairs here over this. True legislator pay

(45:18):
hasn't been increased since nineteen ninety five. We had the
same thing with you know state officials, you know constitutional
officers of the state, those old you know state treasurer
ag and all that they hadn't gotten to pay raise
in forever. They finally got one about a year ago. Okay,
this is now, This is the sort of thing again

(45:39):
that ticks off people who follow this closely. And again
then for your regular you know every day I don't
really pay much attention to You don't understand the They
don't understand the the optics of this number one.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, if I can't vote myself a pay raise, why
should you be able to?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Right, So it's up to the State Supreme Court down
to the side whether or not this is constitutional. They
didn't give any kind of timetable, but it comes down
to that one phrase. What qualifies as a per diem. Well,

(46:19):
we'll find out. I guess.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
point five FM on five sixty AM WVOC. Once again,
here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson's.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Fourteen after eight. Good morning, Good to have you along
for Thursday, October the twenty third. I am Gary David,
he is Christopher Thompson, and we're happy to have you
with us. I was just doing a break watching a
report on what this Melissa might do.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, it is it going to boomerang up north?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Well again, Uh, the lead here is for us in
the US of the East Coast. Thing won't come anywhere
close to US. It is going to take a turn,
you know, out of the Atlantic and be well well
off the Eastern seaboard. So again, less helping changes, that's
not an issue. But Jamaica. They're really focusing on Jamaica

(47:22):
as this thing again by the weekend, will be a hurricane.
But it's gonna it's moving in like two miles an
hour right now. Two miles an hour. Yeah, you walk fast,
and those things moving. And they're talking about large, large
amounts of rain for Jamaica and some of the other

(47:44):
islands down there as well, but Jamaica in particular because
it was it's going to go like right south of Jamaica,
like you know, a couple of miles an hour, continue
to dump rain, dump rain, dump rain. Uh. And again
Jamaica is you know, a mountainous kind of island that's
going to cause problems. But then by the first part

(48:04):
of next week it's still down there right then it's
going to hook around Jamaica and get even stronger. So
this is a multi day event. It looks like for Jamaica.
If I think was a euro model was showing this
is going to go on for day. It's going to
start off with just a high wind, certainly, but just
a bunch of rain, I mean for days and then

(48:25):
makes a turn, hooks around the island, maybe even over
the island as a major hurricane. I mean, the potential
for a catastrophe is very real for this thing that
what even on the radar a couple of days ago
that just blew up in the Caribbean, And this is

(48:45):
going to be it looks like the worst hurricane we've
certainly had this season, potentially a Cat five at some point. Crazy,
all right, So long term event here for them for
us again, at least, all the models right now show
it's going to be well well off the Atlantic seaboard,
and that will be sometime next week as it makes

(49:06):
its path up north. Goodness sakes, Okay, government shutdown today?
What twenty three?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yes, but who's counting anybody who depends on a federal
government paycheck?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
All right? Or benefits we're now from the Department of Agriculture.
It's they actually instructed about a week and a half
to maybe two weeks ago, DSS Hill are here that
snap benefits were going to run out in November unless
the government reopens. So the foodstamp program if again in

(49:48):
November is only, you know, eight days away. Okay, we're
a week away. The benefits continuing this month, but this
is going to be it. If the government does not
reopen come a week from Saturday, those benefits cease to exist.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And I don't get the feeling we're any closer to
an agreement.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Republicans now are suggesting a longer cr uh huh, but
I think Speaker Johnson's a little resistant to that too.
The whole thing, the calendar, the fact that we're now
looking to if we get everything done, we're going to
be bumping into the holidays, are you right? The whole

(50:38):
thing's just a big mess.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It really is. Yesterday there was a chance to reopen
the government, but for the twelfth time, make it an
even dozen, the Democrats voted to keep the government closed.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Wasn't it the House whip, the House Minority whip, who said,
and she's on camera saying this, we can't make a deal.
We lose our leverage, and the.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Leverage being, of course, the the UH subsidies for Obamacare,
well their leverages.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
It is the American people right now, how much they suffer?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's it's again, it's it's
all about a political play here, as it always is.
You know, nobody wants to blink first. Then they're seen
as losers, just a bunch of losers. The losers here
are the American people again. You you know, probably unless

(51:38):
you work for the for the federal government, you're not
directly impacted by this. But we have a lot of
people around here to work for the federal government and
they're feeling it, and others will be here soon. I
don't know. I mean, you know, if you if you
take the stereotypical snap beneficiary, uh, you're a Democrat voter, right,

(52:03):
what do they say when those benefits run out here
in eight days? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
We're talking about millions of them.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Here, two hundred and sixty thousand households in South Carolina alone,
as households, not individuals, households now. John McLoughlin, who uh
does polling, is a Trump pollster, released a new survey

(52:33):
yesterday showing that a majority of voters want Congress to
extend the enhanced to Weldcare tax credits and would be
less likely to vote for a candidate who lets them expire. Now,
the Republicans talking point here and their their their method
has been let's reopen the government. Let's do a continuing resolution.

(52:55):
Once we do that, then we can talk about these
beneficis of these uh subsidies.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
That will be a separate conversation. But get the government
going again, right, And.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Of course you get the Democrats response to that. No,
well wait a minute again. You talk about leverage. This
is our leverage right here, right. If if we reopen
this thing, then there are no guarantees you're gonna actually,
you know, talk to us about extending these these uh,
these these benefits, these subsidies. So basically, this, this survey

(53:26):
again by a Trumpeline pollster, is showing that extending those
subsidies is is key for Republicans ahead of the midterms
next year. Now, maybe it's because it's name is Obamacare.

(53:48):
Maybe it's because Obama came up with it. Maybe it's
because it costs taxpayers a bunch of money in these
subsidies and not everybody's on it. But we would be
you know, shortsighted if we thought that, well, it's only
Democrat voters who are Obamacare. Nothing could be further from

(54:08):
the truth. There are a lot of people on the
open marketplace getting their health insurance because it's the only
place they can get it. That are conservatives who vote
Republican each and every time. If you're a small business
owner for example, I mean a small use a handful

(54:32):
of employees, chances are you're getting the insurance for your
employees on the open marketplace. If you're a you know,
a freelancer, if you're in the gig economy, you need healthcare,
you're getting it in the open marketplace. It's all Obamacare. So,
you know, the notion that it's only Democrat voters who

(54:56):
want to keep these subsidies in place is a fallacy.
Conservatives who are you know, may not be as vocal
about it. It's you know, it's not a hot topic
of conversation in the in public, but privately, yeah, they
want to pay less to do they. Kaiser Family Foundation

(55:19):
just released a study. The cost of employer now we're
talking about employer sponsored health insurance rose again third year
in a row this year. Right now. The average and
this is employer sponsored health plans, the average cost is

(55:40):
almost twenty seven thousand dollars for a family plan. Twenty
seven thousand dollars premiums on family plans are up over
fourteen hundred bucks from last year, more than double the
rate of inflation, and write it about the same that
they've increased the paserlast two years. Now, again, these are

(56:03):
employers sponsored plans, so the average worker is paying in
close to seven thousand annually and the employers are picking
up the rest of the tab the other twenty thousand dollars.
But that's just that's crazy money right there.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yes it is, and money that I mean if the
employers and the employers are getting breaks on those benefits,
sure because they have the massively big plans. But if
we were asked to pay for that all ourselves, no
one could do it.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
No huh. And not just the rates, but the deductibles
are going up now. The average deductible for an individual
plan now is almost two thousand dollars. Last year it
was a little under eighteen hundred. And if you worked
for a smaller company, your deductibles are nearly one thousand
dollars more than if somebody who works at a larger firm.

(56:57):
So it's all going the wrong way. So that whole
conversation is key to this whole shutdown. And I again,
don't just assume that somebody who votes Republican doesn't want
these substats to continue. We can't make that assumption.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
I'm just saying, if you're a squatter, you have more
rights than homeowners.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Shot edity just saying one on three point five FM
and five sixty am w VOC. This is Columbia's Morning
News with Gary David and Christopher Thompson on one on
three point five FM and five sixty am w VOC.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Time for our final thoughts for Thursday morning, October twenty
third time and I was eight forty First up, a
quick recap if you missed it earlier this morning. A
couple of times we discussed the looks like Santi Cooper's
got a buyer, maybe not a single entity, but maybe
a consortium of buyers for to take over the reconstruction

(58:02):
and trying to get to that expansion done out in
Jenkinsville at VC Summer Nuclear Station. The hole in the ground,
the hole in the ground, the ten billion dollar hole
in the ground, financed by you and me and your friends.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
We're not getting that money back, no, no, but at
least we may have a new energy source.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Which we need desperately.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Depending on what they do with it, and without us
having to spend more money. Right, because that's the plan.
We'll see see how it pans out. Okay, Nephron getting
more bad inspection reports, still not fixing things they've gotten
bad inspection reports about the last couple of years, egregious violations.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
According to one is one of Lakes and Katy's biggest employers,
and some trouble over there. And then we also talked
about the State Supreme Court now is going to decide
whether or not well the definition of the word or
the phrase, the two words per diem, what it means
as it relates to the pay rays that the State
House voted to give themselves, which they can do again,

(59:10):
but it's just not supposed to take effect until after
the next election. That's not the way they did it.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I think the Supreme Court suggested that the needs to
be rewritten and they suggested the words you know, it's
compensation versus expenses, and that's where they got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
So Supreme Court's doing a lot of that these days
from the State House. Yeah, they'll do it this way.
If you write it this way, we'll let stand.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
They'll tell you what's wrong with it. You go back
and fix it and it's constitutional, right, just like that,
Just like that, maybe you should start, you know, asking
their opinion before you write it.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Anyway. Okay, so if you missed the in depth discussions
on those topics and more, check out the podcast, which
the Crack production staff is busy assembling right now and
it'll be up after we get off here a nine
o'clock this morning. That on the iHeartRadio app at WVOC
dot com. Okay, Uh, there's been a lot of discussion. Again,

(01:00:08):
it sounds like it's more widespread than it really is.
But just the fact that measles had been pretty much eradicated.
Measles has been a big story this year. Texas for example,
that they have the biggest number of cases closing in
on eight hundred cases in Texas alone. Here we're talking

(01:00:29):
about about twenty twenty people and most most have not
all that's in the upstate, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So U and twenty people's enough because sure, yeah, you
know that's such a highly contagious thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Now, Spartanburg County decided to try to do something about it,
and they put mobile health cuttings out on the streets
for folks to get vaccinated against measles and not many takers. Uh,

(01:01:05):
let's see the ROI on this one. I'm not sure
how many of these mobile health clinics they rolled out,
but a grand total of seven people actually went and
got immunized. Seven. That was it. Yesterday was supposed to
be the day when I'm going to say her name wrong,
I know, Alexandra Billa Saw was supposed to well her

(01:01:31):
try Actually, I say yesterday was just supposed to start Monday.
This is the woman who uh burned trash in her backyard.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
In Ora County defying a burn band.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Defying a burn band, as the uh uh fire department says,
did not have the proper tools to, you know, try
to extinguish a flame if it got out of hand.
And it did get out of hand, and that was
she was charged with starting that two thousand was an
acre Carolina forest wildfire earlier this year, which took months

(01:02:04):
to get it out. So she had been charged and
was facing trial now again. The vinality was not terribly severe.
I think it was like thirty days in jail and
a four hundred dollars fine, and doubtful she'd have gone
behind barrows. She might have had to pay a fine,
but that trial is not going to take place now.

(01:02:27):
Her attorney all along has been saying that she is
being used as a sacrificial lamb. Well she was, she's
being used to make a point, right, don't do this. Well,
but if the fire was her fault, I'd say she's
more than a sacrificial lamb. She's to blame. She used
to blame. Yeah, that's what the Forester Commission's at.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I mean if the fire started with her fire, especially
after she was told not to burn, right, and she
wasn't prepared to burn when she burned when yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Right, Well, she's agreed to enter a diversion, take a
diversion program as opposed to go to trial.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Okay, so well, and as listener Dan pointed out yesterday
to us in an email, you know, that doesn't preclude
just because she's getting off with a slap on the
wrist from the from law enforcement, that doesn't preclude her
neighbors from suing her silly for all the damage they sustained.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yes, because there was damage sustained. So then there's that
part of the story. Okay. So probably community service, maybe
some training, you know, maybe a chat with Smoky the
Bear in her future and that'll be that, okay, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Maybe a tale of caution for us all because we're
being told right now it's kind of a dangerous time
to burn around here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah. Yeah, it's been very dry, it's been very windy. Yep. Yeah,
this uh escalated quickly. Just a couple of days ago,
word was that Trump was going to meet with Putin
in Finland, and now long is that not happening, but

(01:04:04):
the US and the EU ramping up sanctions against the Russians,
massive sanctions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
I mean, there were people online when that news broke saying, Okay,
the war's over. You know, Trump's ended another war. And
we went from that to you know, I mean, I
won't say def Con five, but def Con three yesterday
against Russia again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, Treasury departments sanctioning Russia's two biggest oil companies that
they say are funding the Krimlins war.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Machine, saying some of the toughest sanctions ever in terms
of Russia's economy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Right, and saying that hey, if this doesn't work, we
won't stop here. More can be done. All right, We've
set another record one we didn't want to set, but
nobody seems to care. The national debt now has top
thirty eight trillion dollars. Right, I think most conservatives care,

(01:05:03):
but no conservative can in DC is want to do
anything about it. And I don't know. I mean, this
this is this is this is a runaway wildfire right here.
How do you put this genie back in the bottle?
I mean thirty eight trillion dollars? Thirty eight trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Uh, maybe you find somebody like the United States to
forgive your debt, because we seem to be good at that.
It seems like it. Yeah, I mean you will somebody
forgive hours. You ring up some student loan debt, We'll
forgive it. So maybe somebody will forgive hours.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Boo thirty eight trillion plus And Roger Goodell, we got
to talk about this for a second. The Commission of
the NFL defending the decision by the league to uh
employ Bad Bunny, which is while not a real because
they don't pay these guys, these halftime performers. But to

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Bad Bunny, the Puerto Rican cross dressing, no English speaking musician,
to do the halftime show.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
You knew more about him than I do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I didn't. I didn't until they announced that he was
going to be you know, the performer, and again the
guy who says, hey, you know what, the whole show
is going to be in Spanish? Learn it? Yeah, Goodell
is what else is he gonna say? He defended this

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during the annual Fall meeting yesterday, so it's carefully thought through.
I'm not sure we've ever selected an artist we didn't
have some blowback or criticism.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Really well, yeah, Prince, well okay, but you know the
Rolling Stone the last few you and I have been
very critical of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's been a while since they of course
we're we're out of the demo now, I guess true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Then whatever, Well, I will say this, and I'm not
a big fan of Bad Bunny, but I mean the
NFL is printing money right now. I mean they've got
partners far and wide, they don't have. Roger Goodell is
in as big a position of power as anybody. So
if he says bad Bunny's gonna play bad Buddy, He's
gonna play. Yeah, And he doesn't really, he doesn't. He

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doesn't care what he can shrug off the criticism.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, he really doesn't care. He hadn't cared for a
long time though, And.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Truth be told, if he had signed Taylor Swift. She
would have getten criticism.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Oh sure,