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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jesus Hell, yeah, America and fall for regious.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Formation is wrong.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's coming up on fifteen after six and good morning
to you. It's Wednesday, October, the eighth opening day of
the South Carolina State Fair. Good morning to you. Gary David,
going to be back in the old saddle again.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Goodie?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Have you asked for Thompson? Good morning do you, sir?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
In between that fair news and the temperatures, it's fall.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It is it is fall, isn't it now? Today may
not feel that way. Yeah, we'll hang out in the
mid eighties today, but there is that rain chance coming
in and as Tyler mentioned, probably right around lunchtime, right
around the time the midway opens up. He of course
fair some fair rainfall, but it's just a kind of

(01:10):
a one day affair when it comes to that today
and back out dry sunny tomorrow for day two of
the fair. And that's where the timper just start to
fall back into the mid seventies and overnight lows into
the mid fifties once again. So yeah, that will feel
like fall and fair will it not. We'll take it
all right. Well, uh for a couple of days. It's

(01:32):
still playing ketchup on a few things. I'm I'm sure
I've it's been an eventful couple of days in the news,
I know, well for some things, other things not much
like the shutdown, I know, no real progress there. We'll
get to it. Uh, we'll start off the rundown of
the big stories, the hot topics and uh yeah, the
media and the leftist media doesn't want to let this go.

(01:54):
But even though we've heard from SLED that this this house,
that that that belonged to a judge of Goudstein and
her her husband, the former state Senator Arnold Goudstein, that
and boy.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
What a house that was huh yeah, gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Wow, uh burning to the ground over the weekend. As
you know, the mainstream media still wants to, in the tabloids,
make us believe that Maggie was responsible for all this,
although SLED has said no, it it was was not

(02:35):
Arson at least they fill far their investigation. They say
it's it's it's not now. There were threats made against
this judge. Of course, this is I mean this is
just a snapshot of where we are in twenty twenty five?
Is it not? Sure? It's not a good place, not
at all. Investigation continues as there. I guess they're back

(02:55):
to class today at se State, Right they were? They
rolled off classes the last couple of.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Days, right, hostess report back today.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Two unrelated shootings during homecoming weekend this past weekend, as
you know that news. One one dead, another still in
critical condition. One arrest that had been made of an
eighteen year old in connection with this.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
He's already bonded out.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Already bonded out, Yeah, on an eighty seven thousand dollars bond.
Matthew McCoy who was arrested in charge with pointing and
presenting a firearm at a person and carrying a weapon
on school property. He's already bonded out. Apparently again, this
altercation simming from a fight between two groups of individuals

(03:46):
over at the university. Speaking of universities, Joshua Braggy fired,
professor at Clemson fired for his social media posts about that.
Charlie Kirk has filed suit against the university, saying that
they violated his First Amendment rights. Now he expected there

(04:06):
will be a lot of these. There was one of
the lawsuits already been filed, and that was not at
a university level. But I'm trying to remember now, was
a high school teacher or in that case, having seen
what this teacher posted. Yeah, I kind of questioned that

(04:28):
one too. But for Breggie, well, hey, you know, be
careful what you asked for here one of three, well,
two professors and one employee who was terminated at Clemson
in the aftermath of the Kirk assassination for their social
media post. So we'll be following that right there.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Breggie's one of those guys that, you know, it's like
the person who prefaces everything with all due respect exactly,
and then you know an insult's coming, and there it comes.
He prefaced it with, you know, I deplore violence for
any reason, and then he went on to say, but karma.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
But basically in this case, it was okay, yeah, is
what he was saying. Not in so many words, but
that's yeah, what he was saying. Early voting underway to
fill the House seat left by the resignation of R. J. May.
That early voting period started earlier this week. On Monday.
We get four four candidates who have filed for that race.

(05:25):
Right there, We've got more polling data that's dropped on
the Republican gubernatorial primary race. No point in doing any
polling for that Democrats because you're still got just that one. Right,
that's it. He's far as we know, Mullins McLeod is
still in the race. Meantime, the Greenville Party, the Greenville

(05:50):
Republican Party, voting to censure Lieutenant Governor Pam Labbott, who
sits at the top of these latest polls or at
least right near, for not attending any of their meetings.
Although again it's you got to get the you get,
especially in a race with as many individuals and as
tight as it is, you can't afford to lose any
county party support, and at least for now she has.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It looks like, well, we talked about that a bit yesterday.
That's that's the crackpot side of the Republican Well yeah
it is, yeah, but yeah, somebody, somebody still needs their votes.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Rosali Fernandez Cruz who pled guilty to one kind of
hit and run resulting in death. So it's a man
who is here is undocumented, an illegal immigrant killing a
USC student, is hitting and run gets his sentence one year.
One year. Yeah, that's it. Thomas mentioned this. The outbreak

(06:48):
continues in the upstate, and the school in Spartanburg County
seems to be the epicenter of the ongoing measles outbreak
here in our state. Two new confirmed cases there. Now
again we talk about an outbreak well ten cases statewide.
But again this gets our attention because measles largely eradicate him.
It's another system out there in the Atlantic, tropical storm Jerry.

(07:13):
But again, this one will follow the path of all
the other Atlantic storms so far this season. I mean,
we're what three weeks and change away from the end
of hurricane season at least on the calendar. Yeah, and man,
were don't even We're just now to get into the Jays.
Not only they're staying out in the Atlantic, but we're
not getting very many of them. Remember a couple of
seasons ago, we went through all the regular names, then

(07:37):
all the alternate names. Remember that one This year we're
just to the Jays. Wow, we'll take that, huh. But
a Northeastern there's gonna be some problems to the North
Atlantic or the northeastern part of the country. It looks
like matter of fact, it is some coastal flooding and
some high surf as far south as Charleston this weekend

(08:00):
and west coast. I don't know that I remember actually
even hearing this. Both California and Arizona are in the
cone of Hurricane Priscilla. They've been a little more active
in the Pacific than in the Atlantic. I mean, Arizona
in the cone of a hurricane. Really, I'm not sure

(08:20):
I've ever heard that. Okay, Abraham the Camel, Oh I
knew Abraham well, uh passing away Abraham Uh who for
for many years my family was involved in the drama
at Lake Mary Baptist Church. This man called Jesus he was.

(08:40):
He was a center piece of that drama all those years.
The mountain dew swinging camel who was who has passed away?
Only Camel I ever knew. There'll never be another one?
All right, No, no, no, uh. Progress being made up
on Capitol Hill is well, we're about day seven now

(09:02):
the shutdown again. In order to break this thing, Uh,
the Republicans need at least seven Senates Democratic Caucus members
to join. They're still at those same three. Fetterman, Cortes,
Mastow and Angus King, that's it. Trump continue to talk about, well,

(09:26):
these furlough government workers not not committing to paying some
of them amid the shutdown. You know, usually again when
the shutdowns over, they get paid, and putting a well,
I guess a drop dead date, so to speak, on well,
when they'll start actually letting go of some of these
federal workers meantime, And we warned about this slow downs

(09:49):
at our nation's airports as air traffic controllers, well they're
deemed essential, but they still don't get paid. And like
we saw last time we had one of these shutdowns,
more and more calling out sick and that's causing the
slow downs. Has some pretty big airports across the country.
The Guard deployed to Chicago, some two hundred of shown
up south of Chicago. They're being stationed now at least

(10:11):
in Joliet. That'll be worth watching. And we've got well, oh,
the Jay Jones fundraiser cancelation. Jay Jones, who's running for
attorney general in Virginia. You've no doubt heard the story
the unearthed text messages in which he mentioned two bullets

(10:33):
to the head of a Republican foe.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And hope their children were killed.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean, this guy is running for Attorney general
in Virginia. Unbelievable. And how about Steak and Shake. Steak
and Shake playing to install giant American flags at all
of their restaurants? Good for them, Good for them? And
how long until at least one city in which are
located lodges a complaint starts trying to find them over them?

(11:01):
That'll happen, you know it? All right, friends, we got that.
I have a complaint. There's not a Steak and Shake
close enough to me. I grew up loving steak. Steak
and Shake was like a luxury when I was growing up.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Every now and then.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh yeah, McDonald's was a luxury when I was growing up. Yeah,
but I miss it. And now there's one over on
in the Harvesting area, right, No, that one closed a
long time. Oh yeaow.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, there's one off Clemson Road, I think, or not
off Clemson of a killion killion Yeah wow, But I
don't know if there's another one in there. We need
one closer to us.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I'm really really out of touch, though I did
okay years ago. All right, friends, well we got that,
and we got more coming up on this It is
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Speaker 3 (11:50):
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Speaker 3 (11:54):
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Speaker 1 (12:11):
It is six forty on a Wednesday morning. Good morning,
Good to have you along for the October the eighth.
In this segment, DIM's doing dirty deeds. Got a couple
of examples.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Here are they? Done dirt cheap and done dirt cheap?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes? Okay, all right to quote ac DC. Yeah, thank you.
I was gonna go there, but hold, I'll just stop
right there. Done dirt cheap? Who should I let's start
with Jack Smith, Lndy Graham says Sue, and uh who
could blame them the news with of course, of the
last couple of days that the former Special Council allegedly

(12:51):
monitored phone calls and personal messages of multiple Republican members
of Congress. Okay, now this was during the probe of
a Trump's efforts to contest the results of the twenty

(13:11):
twenty presidential election, and somehow Jack Smith thought that was
that warranted again, monitoring phone calls and personal messages of
American citizens. That's bad enough. But when that list includes

(13:36):
names like Lindsey Graham, Senator Tommy Tubberville of Alabama, Senator
Josh Holly of Missouri, Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. Wow,
Dan Bongino, Deputy FBI Director, saying, it's a disgrace that

(14:00):
I had to stand on Capitol Hill and reveal this
that the FBI was once weaponized to track the private
communications of US lawmakers for political purposes. And remember it
was Trump and the Republicans whom we were told we're

(14:23):
putting democracy at risk. Yeah, No, this was Biden and
the Democrats again, monitoring phone calls and personal messages of
leading Republican senators. All told, it was nearly a dozen

(14:48):
by the way, I just mentioned some of the better
known names right there. Nearly a dozen unreal. And we
mentioned in the rundown that Jay Jones story He's now
canceled a fundraise that was set for tomorrow night, So

(15:10):
You probably didn't miss this story, but just in case
you did. J Jones, who is the Democrat nominee to
be Attorney General in the Commonwealth of Virginia, acknowledging and
apologizing for text he's sitting back in twenty twenty two
or among other things, he fantasized about putting well about

(15:33):
saving two bullets for the Republican House Speaker in Virginia. Yeah, okay,
he's apologized. You're running for the attorney general spot and

(15:58):
you're texting out things like this. Okay, granted a couple
of years ago, but still that doesn't make any difference.
Envisioning that they then have the House speaker would be
shot twice in the head if lined up with Cambodian
Camie Rouge, Dictator polpot And, and Adolf Hitler, and the

(16:21):
executioner had only two bullets. Spoiler, he wrote, put Gilbert,
referring to the House speaker in the crew with the
two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets
every time. I don't know that you could you could
make it any worse than by saying that, yeah, you'd

(16:43):
save two bullets for the for the House speaker, but
then to put him in a lineup with Adolf Hitler
and say, yeah, you'd killed this guy before you kill
Hitler then suggested that Gilbert and his wife for breeding
little fascists. We were talking about two young children here.

(17:08):
Goodness sakes. Okay, well, this has been a campaign that
has been rocked here recently by a number of things,
not just this. There was well, court records revealed the
show that Jones had been charged with reckless driving on

(17:29):
I sixty four. He escaped the typical one year jail
sentence by filing a thousand community service hours split between
the NAACP's Virginia branch and his own political pack. Wow,

(17:53):
goodness sakes, well, that's one thing, but I mean to
to to send a text message three years ago about
two bullets to the head of the House Speaker in
the Commonwealth of Virginia, and you want to be Attorney general.
By the way, it was laughable to see uh failed

(18:17):
vice presidential candidate to Tim Kane. Remember Tim Kane? Remember Tim? Yeah,
say that Jones's comments were indefensible, but he's still a supporter. Okay, Hey,
at least Tim Kane said something. Other leading Democrats, including

(18:38):
Mark Warner, the Senator from Virginia, just a no comment comment.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
He's got an endorsement from some Virginia Democrats. Oh yeah,
I mean they're they're sticking with him.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
They're sticking with the guy, which tells you where they
are right now again, Oh goodness sake, that's okay, that's
okay because he's one of ours and apparently they take
care of theirs. Huh so uh another example of uh,
I don't know, I gotta tell, but you know, really

(19:10):
did to sit back for a second. What's worse? Okay,
it's time for the exciting round of what's worse? Jay
Jones with his text or Jack smith snooping on phone
calls and personal messages of leading Republican senators.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's a tough one. But don't forget now. We were
told repeatedly it was Donald Trump and the Republicans who
are going to destroy democracy. Okay, got it straight.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, you're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh
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here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's fourteen minutes after seven o'clock morning to you. Happy
to have you on board for Wednesday, October the eighth.
I am Gary David. That is Christopher Thompson right over there.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, great, Tavy back.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Good to be back. Man.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's just check.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I got just getting some new information, but I can't
access it. Gone it hate when that happens, hate it. Okay, Well,
I'll continue to work because we're we're looking at some
polling data here.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
And well it might have been something we had yesterday,
probably so okay.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
But there's something else out here and was sent to
me a little while ago, and I'm trying to get
to it. Let's see it. I'm having a hard time.
Just didn't want to show up. Well, okay, anyway, I
do at least the headlines of this one. So yeah,
I got a couple so yesterday again I was out
of the loop for a couple days.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
The national polling her South Carolina we had, we had
both yesterday.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, all right, so you had the what was it,
the uh Trifalgara group Pole, Yes, okay, and again as
we as we discussed in the last couple of weeks.
I mean, hey, listen, advertising works, Okay, it works.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's why we're here.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, that's why we're here without that we can't have
a job. But again, so far, the lieutenant governor is
the only one that's been running ad an ad campaign
and she had to because as word as it might
sound to you if you follow politics and you said, well,
she's the lieutenant governor. Of course, on who she is.

(21:39):
You know a lot of South Kundinians did not know
who she was. That was one of you know, they
first started pulling these things. Is okay, name recognition and
name recognition, you know, again, unbelievably the lieutenant governor the
state didn't have very high name recognition. So, uh, she's
out early. That what's going to be interesting is is,
although you know, success begets success. I suppose. I don't

(22:02):
know how the fundraising is going for lieutenant governor right now,
but probably better than it would have otherwise because by
running you know, all these ads, she has gained visibility.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, she's built a lot of momentum.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah. So you had the Trifaber group, which is which
is a poll that I think very highly. I don't
think I highly of any of the poll but as
high as I can think of one, this is the one.
This is Robert Kahley's group over in Atlanta, So that
one had what that was taken September twenty ninth through
October one, had Pamela Evid at the top at nineteen nine,

(22:39):
had Nancy Mace two at fifteen to eight, Alan Wilson
three at twelve four, than Ralph Norman at nine to three,
Josh Kimball at one point three, and that the winner
undecided right at forty one point three percent. But again,
the the big news here continues to be the rise

(23:03):
and the polls of Pamela Avint. Now, the truth of
the matter is, at this point in time, when it
comes to advertising, she's running an uncontested race, right, Nobody
else is advertising, So these numbers will change. And at
least for now, the other candidates in the race, you know,

(23:25):
they're they're they're keeping their powder dry on this one.
I mean it's October, for crying out loud, we are
eight months away from the primary. There's a lot of
time and we'll be inundated with these ads, you know,
probably sooner rather than later. So don't worry about it.
That'll happen. But once once that begins, that's when the campaigns.

(23:46):
That's when the when it really starts. I mean right now,
it's going around to you know, small groups of folks,
shaking hands, kissing babies, you know, give them a stump
speech in front of maybe a couple of hundred, maybe
a couple of tens. Right, this is the slog of all.
But before you know, the law'll be out there, you know,
inititating the airwaves with the campaign ads, and then we'll

(24:07):
see what happens. But again, this has been, you know,
so far in the last month or so of these polls,
the story of the rise of Pam Levitt for again,
she's she's been out there advertising. Okay, Now there was
a new poll from Quantas Insights. Okay, I found what
I was looking for here. This was released yesterday, I

(24:31):
think it was. Yeah. So this one has Alan Wilson
at the top at twenty three percent, Pamela Evan at
twenty two, mesa twenty. Ralph Norman had a better showing
in this one than usual at thirteen, so did Josh
Kimberl at six percent as opposed to one point three

(24:53):
in that Trifagri group. So the big again, the big
difference in this one is a change at the top
and and Wilson at twenty three just ahead of Eviit
at twenty two in Mase at twenty. So, well, one
thing we see in this aside from that, is that
there are fewer undecideds in this poll, right, okay, And

(25:21):
when it comes to the leaners, the survey does include
leaners for each for each candidate, and this is why
you see a smaller number of undecideds here. So the
undersides in this poll, as opposed to the Trifagar Group
poll had forty one percent, this pole has only sixteen
percent underside. So you're not sure you're going to vote

(25:41):
for this individual, but you're leaning that way, right. What
it shows is that, well, when you take out the leaners,
Ebatt was at seventeen, Wilson and Mace were both at sixteen,
Norman eleven, and Kimberl at five. But you put those
laners in there, and suddenly it's a it's a different race, right, okay,

(26:05):
but it's still wide open. They also pulled Lindsey Graham's
sit at seat and again, if you if you're one
of those, it's like, okay, enough with Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Already, remind me again who's running, because Andre Bauer is
not anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Andre Bauer is not who is You got Mark Lynch,
you got Paul Dan's he was the pent twenty five guys, right, Okay,
it's Lindsay at fifty eight, Lynch at fifteen, and Dance
at seven. Okay, not much has changed there from other

(26:53):
polls that have been done. I think the Paul Dans
rise that I got, I got a email last week
with miss campaign like double to support us, Like, well, great,
I'm happy for your guy. But you know he doubles
it from you know, seven to fifteen. Still, you know,
forty plus points behind Lindsey Graham. Let's just fay it
that well, you like it, you don't. I get that

(27:15):
race is really not going to change. Don't expect it
to at all. So there's a couple of polls in
a couple of days when it comes to the Republican
hopefuls here, and they do bring in very different results,
at least when you put the leaners in there, as
the Iquanus Pole did. And I don't know, you know,

(27:40):
if you're a candidate and you look at these leaners,
how much you can count on them to actually, you know,
pull the lever for you come June. But I would
think that unless you do something to really mess it up.
You're probably going to get most of those folks. And again,
we're in October here, We've got a long long way
to go. I do think that once Wilson starts running

(28:07):
a bunch of ads, once May starts running a bunch
of ads, Norman will run. So I don't know about
I don't know about Josh Kimberl. The last news on
we have on Josh Kimberl is what that some of
his allies are now countersuing his former business partner. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
It just continues to blow up. Yeah, and that's the
only news he makes these days.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That's it. That's it. I don't know how much. Remember this,
The filing period hasn't even opened yet. We've got all
these candidates who say they're running for governor. But the
filing season, I mean officially, it hasn't even opened yet.
It won't for a little while here.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
He may wind up not filing.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Might not. Oh and up, by the way, as an aside,
early voting is underway this week, of course, for State
House District eighty eight, that seat that was vacated by
the resignation of R. J. May. You've got what four
in that race, Brian Duncan, Lorili Gray, John Lastinger, and

(29:05):
Darren E. Rogers Sr. Just one Democrat on the ticket,
that's Chuck high Towers. So the special election is going
to be December twenty third. All right, So there's that
in a nutshell. What's going on politics around the state
right now? I like keeping up with local news that

(29:26):
I'm traveling.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
It is seven thirty seven. Good morning, mand How times
are changing? Huh? Adulthood delayed? Now we'll get to the
lawsuit here. This Climson, the professor of the men or two.
But adulthood delayed? First time buyer age? Now, I think

(30:10):
a wild guess is to the age of a first
time home buyer in this country? Mmmm?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well are so what was the old age? Twenty one
twenty two?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't know, maybe that might be a little young. Okay,
I can put it this way. Ten years ago it
was thirty one.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Thirty one, Okay, So you've been in a you've gotten
a job, you've been in it for you know, ten
years or so, and give or to Okay, all right, okay,
so it was thirty one lost, thirty one, it's more
than that.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Take a wild stab.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Fifty three.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Now you're reading my fingers. A sorry, I'll try to
help you out here, bro. Alright, thirty five, there's a
three right there. Yeah, they're oh, thirty eight, thirty eight okay,
all right, we.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Gotta work on our hand signs.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, you're giving me waiting for me. That's too much,
too early in the morning. Thirty eight, thirty eight years old. Okay, Well,
I thought you were going to say some ridiculous number, but.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
This sounds pretty ridiculous to me.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, yeah, I mean you've you've lived half your life
by then.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Certainly you've you've if you were the job market twenty
two for example, right, okay, and it's sixteen years before
you're able to buy your your first your first home.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Are you living with mom and dad till then?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, about one point five million more adults under the
age of thirty five are living with their parents they
did a decade ago.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
If you're living with mom and dad, you should be
banking Major Bucks, and you should be able to get
into a home even sooner.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Well, but you see, here's the problem though. You say that,
but you and I we don't understand the mindset of
young adultcies. It ain't like, no, I'm not I'm not
gonna sit here and tell you when I was that
age that I was salting away money left and right,
because I wasn't. But I also wasn't, you know, racking
up credit card debt like crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, we didn't have.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Six dollars cups of coffee when I was with that age, right.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Or door Dash or Amazon Prime or anything else where
you could just hold up a phone and order something instantly.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, well, suddenly your McDonald's big back costs you fifteen
dollars because you got it on door Dash. Yeah. Six
point three percent of adults under the age of thirty
five are living with mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Now again, part of the issue is that that rents
are up about four percent a year, okay, but wages
are only up about six tenths of a percent a year.
The median US home price ninety percent higher than it
was ten years ago, ninety percent higher. The median home
price in this country is now above four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Ouch.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, it's crazy. So this story struck a bell because
our oldest son, who's thirty now, is uh, you know,
kind of getting to the housing market.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well as we know, it's the prices are lower here
than they are. I mean it's, yes, they are, but
mean's not four hundred thousand here.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, But I'm telling from what he's seen. Yeah, you're
probably looking at you know, three twenty or so. Yeah,
it's crazy. So uh yeah, it's it's it's not just
that they don't want to grow up, they can't afford
to grow up. I guess. I mean, this is that's
an age when when most of us we're looking at okay,

(33:40):
well my my, my wife and I excluded because we've
we've been a pretty good bit. But you know, usually
by the time you hit about thirty eight forty or so,
you're you're you're thinking about, okay, let's let's look at
our forever home.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Right, Yeah, I mean you're you're probably ending you know,
the expanding the family at that heage.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Right, you've got your starter home, you have been able
to build some equity, you know, you're raising the kids,
and you're thinking about, Okay, we need to you know,
get into a place where we're gonna we're gonna, you know,
retire one day. But but now at that same age,
people are just okay, this is uh, this is our
starter home. Interesting. We'll have to note that investors, now
we're both talk about individual investors and institutional ones, bought

(34:22):
one third of all single family residential properties that were
sold in Q two of this year. Bought a third
of them. And a lot of that is these institutional
investors that are snapping up homes left and right.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a it's a changing
world when it comes to real estate, certainly. Okay, Now, uh,
this professor, former professor at Clemson University, they miss Joshua
Braggy Uh filing a suit suit put together by the
A c l U. Surprise, So he was improperly removed
from his role as an assistant professor. What did he tee?

(35:04):
Oh he was in the Department of Environmental Engineering and
Earth Sciences. Okay, lawsuit claims he engaged in constitutionally up
or protected speech. Again, this is another one of these
posts on social media after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

(35:26):
Some of Kirk's political commentary included in the suit includes
his statement that we need to have a Nuremberg style
try for every gender affirming clinic doctor we need immediately. Okay,
Charlie Kirk did say some pretty wild things. Yes. The
suit notes that Kirk was shot and killed while speaking
at an event at Utah Valley University. Okay, we know that,

(35:49):
and the assassination caused an uproar, especially on social media. Yeah,
we know that too, So what are you telling me
because of all that? Then whatever this guy'sent on social
meda should be, you know, in the free and clear.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Well, I could say whatever you wanted, But Clemson has
a right to as his employer, It is the one
who writes his paychecks to react, right if it looks
like his freedom of speech is going to hurt them
when it comes to students who might be willing to
pay tuition at Clemson, they have every right to take action.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Right In his post, he noted play certain games, win
certain prizes, and then he yeah, he starts off without
I'll say this also, I truly agree for Kirk's family
and friends. Like you mentioned told once you see that line,
you know, Okay, but right, yeah, it's coming, you know,
bless his heart. Okay, with all due respect, with all

(36:46):
due respect, Yes, he writes, no one deserves to go
through a tragic loss like that. No one should be
gone down blah blah blah blah blah, no one. But
am I going to allow people to make a martyr
out of a flawed human being whose rhetoric caused notable
damn much Not a chance, now, I suspect he pretty
much knew or then after he posted that to his

(37:10):
Facebook page, either started to get reaction or he started
to hear about other people that were posting and getting
in trouble. He switched his post to private, but he
didn't do so before screenshots were taken and shared and
you know the rest of the story. The lawsuit portrays

(37:32):
this decision to fire him as one driven exclusively by
external pressure, as if that's never happened before. Wow, here's
a novel concept. That was external pressure. Of course there was.
That's the way we do things right here these days, right, I.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Mean we mentioned before that. You know, certainly the governor's
candidates got involved and took notice, but they only took
notice after the public outcry, I mean, you want to
blame somebody, blame Clemson College Republicans. What actually blame blame
whoever leaked it in the first place, or blame whoever
posted it in the first place. Yeah, well, okay, that's
too right. But if the other if the other side

(38:14):
wants to blame someone, I mean, he's got a friend
who posted it, he had locked it down, somebody posted it,
the Clemson College Republicans got a hold of it, and
the rest is history.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
There you go. Now, the school delivered a letter to
him saying he was being terminated for blatantly unprofessional conduct
and conduct seriously presidential approach prejudicial to the university. So

(38:43):
the idea here from this lawsuit and from those on
the left is that Clemson had no right to do this.
They had no say so in the matter. You know,
they're signing the paycheck. Of course they had the right. Now, again,
if this were a private company that did the same thing,
and as we have seen, has happened in this particular

(39:07):
instance because of this this event, why why should Clemson
to be treated any different because there are somewhat state
supported school. Well, what's what's the problem here? But yeah,
the suit seems to seems to kind of from what
I've seen, it basically be just that, uh, well, the

(39:28):
university was coerced into firing. The university had the final
say in all this. What they're saying, and what they're
saying here, I'm sure in this suit is not that, Oh,
they were coerced from you know, outside individuals, and they're
going to say they were coerced by politicians in this state,
by the Republican Party, and I'm sure by maga. All right, well,

(39:51):
uh again, we expected this, and it's not going to
be the last ones we've seen, surely. But you've probably
noticed that after about a week or so of these
posts by these liberals, they stopped in a hurry, didn't they.
They stopped in a hurry. And also not because of

(40:15):
the social media and the cover it gives some folks.
I'm talking about folks who may post with names other
than their own. I'm just curious, would Joshua Brigay have
stood up in front of a crowded Little John Coliseum,
for example, and said the same things. Maybe keyboard warriors, Yeah,

(40:36):
world's full of them. All right, No comment yet from Clemson,
and they won't. Of course, well there's an ongoing litigation,
but we shall wait and see how this turns out.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Listening to Columbia's morning news on one oh three point
five FM on five sixty AM WVOC, once again, here's
Gary David and Christopher Thompson.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's fourteen minutes after the hour of eight o'clock in morning.
To you, happy to have you along. I am Gary David,
he is Christopher Thompson. Into the final hour the commute
here for a Wednesday, Abraham has passed. You may have
heard the news Abraham the camel chance is pretty good.

(41:21):
If you're hearing my voice right now, you've probably encountered
this camel at some point in time over the last
number of years. Abraham, who became a fixture years ago,
is a centerpiece of the annual Christmas draw im out
at Late Murray Baptist Church. This man called Jesus, which
still continues today. By the way over in the South
Congary is his name is Jesus, but same production and yes,

(41:46):
that is my voice to the narration in case you
want to know. Okay, first time I saw that we
were involved with my family was for years with that production.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Shameless plug by the way.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
By the way, yeah, like I got paid big money
for it. I make it a rule. I don't charge
God for anything I do. Okay, it's a pretty good rule.
By first time I saw this camel and there was
this long runway between stages right that during one of

(42:17):
the scenes. Now, yeah, Cliff Fisher, who's the owner. He
and his wife, Margaret Fisher. Cliff is now councilman. She's
been a corner for a while now in Lexton County.
But yeah, he held the reins. But I thought, are
you crazy, because you know, on each side of that
runway you've got thousands of people, and you know, many

(42:40):
hundreds within the front couple of rows front, a couple
of rows there. And I thought, man, all it takes
is for that camel to decide, you know, I'm out
of here, and you've got total disaster on your hands,
or a misstep or a misstep anything. I mean, because
it wasn't a very wide runway either. But all those
years and all those walks down that runway, Abraham was
always right dead sent in middle love it man. And

(43:01):
of course as his popularity gained, he'd show up all
over the.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Place, parades, parades, campaigns, have campaigns, blowfish baseball.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I mean, he was everywhere and as a matter of fact,
continued to work, did events as recently his last Friday,
did a couple of events. And then that's when the
Fishers realized that something wasn't quite right, and he passed
yesterday morning. I don't know my wife Camel's live. She

(43:34):
looked it up last night. I can't remember what she
said it was, but they have a pretty decent lifespan.
Interestingly enough, twenty nine years after the day they first
adopted him the day he died.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, And I didn't realize how the whole mountain dew
thing got started. He was actually bottle fed out of
a mountain dew bottle, and he came to associate meal
time with a green bottle.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
And he could chug down a mountain do it a hardbab.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, So that became his treat that was yeah, Abraham.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
The Campbell, All right? Uh? Capitol Hill, Yeah, No, nothing
nothing happening here. It's where when I was last here
on Friday, I left you right, nothing's changed still. John
Thune needs at least eight seven Democrats or at least

(44:23):
an independent too, cause of the Democrats to join the
Republicans to reopen the government. Ran Paul continues to vote
against this. Democrat Democrats John Fetterman and A. Catherine Cortes
Mostow and Angus King, the independent from Man who Cox
of Democrats continue to vote to reopen the government. And

(44:45):
that hasn't changed, and it's looking more and more like
it won't change anytime soon. Now. Uh, the administration's warnings
that workers who are right now sent home without pay,
who and typically again in pass shutdowns, have gotten their
back pay when they returned, they may not be coming

(45:07):
back at all. No guarantees even for those who do
have been a back pay for them. And again Trump
warning Democrats that well permanent government filing firings will will begin.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
He says, I think those are hollow threats, but.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I hope they are because it's going to be a
very bad look for the Republicans if you start firing
federal workers. Now.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
We had the poll numbers yesterday while you were out.
It's more people blame Republicans than Democrats, but more people
think Democrats should go ahead and accept the Republican's clean
bill and get this done without worrying about healthcare right now.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Interesting very interesting, and.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That could put some some pressure on Democrats with that
in mind. You know, whether it's whether it's your fault
or not, you're still the onus is on you according
to the American people. You know, they're they're blaming you
for things not going any farther, for this not getting fixed,
and they're saying, forget health care, just get the government

(46:20):
going again.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I mean, you're talking about right now some three quarters
of a million furloughed employees. And it's been a long
standing policy that these folks, when when the government reopens,
get their back pay.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, but hey, this is going to be this is
not going to be a good a good look for
the Republicans if this this comes to pass, they don't
get their back pay, or some of them or many
of them get get fired permanently.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
But they miss their first paycheck in two days. And
then the military misses its first paycheck next week.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah. And of course, and there are those who are
deemed essential personnel, and again military is essential. They're they're
out there working, but they're not getting paid. And against
or air traffic controllers essential supposed to be working not
getting paid. And we mentioned this when this shutdown first
began doesn't mean there won't be problems that our nation's airports,

(47:11):
and there have been and there will continue to be.
Just like the last shutdown, You've got more and more
air traffic controllers called against sick, someone going to take
second jobs because of the uncertainty. And it's already gotten
so bad that well, the Nashville International Airport, well, they

(47:34):
didn't have enough air traffic controllers to operate the tower,
so the lights went out in the tower at Nashville.
And this was well, this was last night, major flight
till raise, ground stops. Traffic was backed up at least

(47:54):
two hours at the time. Sean Duffy, Transportation sectary, again
saying that, yeah, many air traffic control workers are calling
out sick. You had staffing shortages at a dozen different facilities,
including well Newark, where they've always got problems, so that's
no big surprise. Chicago's O'Hare's got issues with the staffing shortages.

(48:23):
There are delays there. So yeah, if you're traveling anytime
soon until they get this thing resolved, you can probably
face issues and maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Major issues inconvenience for one thing, but for a larger thing.
Are you facing safety issues.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Then there's that Okay, we're not just talking about oh yeah,
I'm inconvenience because my flight took off two hours late
or four hours later, six hours late, whatever. But once
you're in the air, you know, go to these apps
like flight aware and you get a snapshot and you

(49:03):
can see and especially that that that Northeastern corridor and
all but down the East coast. You've never looked that.
They have little impressions, little visualizations of each plane. It's
in the sky, and you look at that, you're like, wow,
and somebody's got to keep all those planes separated. Yeah,

(49:25):
if if, if, if we wind up with a with
a major aviation incident as a result of this, then
it's it's gonna well, let's just hope that doesn't happen.
So no progress here. It continues to be a you know,
finger pointing incident. In the meantime, you've got a lot
of folks around here who were waking up and staying

(49:47):
at home again this morning and now wondering, well, if
I do get called back, do I get the back
pay I'm missing, or will I get called back at all?
It seems to be just threats being issued by the
administration to try to move this thing along here, but

(50:09):
it could happen here about it. The League of Wake
Up in the country talk about it.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
This is this is pure evil. One O three point
five FM and five sixty am w VOC. This is
Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher Thompson on
one on three point five FM and five sixty am
w VOC.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Hey thirty nine our final thoughts here for Wednesday, October
the eighth. Well, the speculation, the rumors, the conspiracy theories
continue as to what happened over the weekend in Edistowe
when the home and boy was it a home? Huh
of Circuit Court Judge Diane Goodstein burned to the ground. Arson, Oh,

(50:58):
I mean when it first happened, that was the MAGA
was responsible for this. And there's still plenty of tabloids
out there. And I'm by tabloids, I'm referring to some
mainstream media publications and certainly on social media, the leftists
who continue to say this was MAGA responsible for this.

(51:20):
You had Dan Goldman, Congressman New York, posting that Trump
and Stephen Miller and Magia Wroute have been docsing and
threatening judges who ruled against Trump, including Judge Goodstein, and
that she had received death threats.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I don't think the president or Stephen Miller had mentioned
her specifically, had they.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Not that I'm aware of.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
But as Goldman wrote on X Today, someone committed arson
on the judges.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Home a we don't know that.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
No, we don't. There's the old you know, without evidence
phone in their line should be added to it. This
is from a congress person. Now, as you've probably heard,
Mark Keel, SLED chief has issued a statement at this time,
there's no evidence to indicate the fire was intentionally set

(52:21):
that SLED agents have preliminarily found there is no evidence
to support a pre fire explosion. This was a top
of explosion, then it went up in flames. This was
the way it was being reported.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So you took an unproven theory and you jumped to
an unproven conclusion.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh yes, as we tend to do. Of course. The
governor weigh in as well, adding to that there's no
evidence the aerrific fire was intentionally set. Now, while they
were trying to downplay the speculation, here a statement by

(52:58):
the state's trial lord lobby ramped it up. The group's leader,
Ashley Creech, commenting to Low Country Media, quoting here, it
is deeply concerning that our current climate is such that
any judge might face threats or attacks for their rulings.
So she's still trying to ramp this thing up.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
You can disagree with someone's decisions, rulings, feelings without wishing
violence on someone.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
That works both ways. By the way, so still lots
of fingerpointing, lots of blame being assigned quote unquote without evidence.
I mean, all we can really go with right now
is what sled Is said from their preliminary investigation, that
this was not Arson.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, I did say yesterday, I thought that I thought
the rhetoric has become a little too extreme when it
comes to judges. And we've seen yeah, look at what
Brett Kavanaugh has gone through, right, I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
And they would be assessing is what eight years because
now he's a sheet Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a joke
in itself. But you know, we've seen enough to know
that you can't just criticize the rhetoric on one side. Yeah,
we may not be using the words Nazi or anything
like that to describe these justices but still, you know,
maybe make it clear that you know you respect the position,

(54:25):
you respect the person you disagree with their feelings or
their thoughts or their rulings. Rosale Fernandez Cruz hit and
killed a student of the University of South Carolina earlier
this year. That was back in April. Fernandez Cruz in

(54:49):
this country illegally. He got his prison sent in yesterday.
And might I add that was pretty quick. I mean
this hit and run, hit and run, okay, hid and
run resulting in death on April second here the first

(55:09):
part of October. Already got his sentence. It was one year.
One year. Wow.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Okay, so you got justice in a speedy manner, but
you didn't get much out of it. No you didn't.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
No, Texas sends their National Guard troops to Chicago. Okay,
some two hundred guardsmen out of Texas mobilized for what
will be in an initial sixty day period. Of course,
lawsuit filed and they judge saying yeah, no, not yet,

(55:52):
it's okay for now, but wanting to know, Okay, what
will their mission be? How long do you plan to
have them there? Okay, this is uh. We have another
judge who said they can't go to Portland. Right. Then?
This is what confuses me. How can one judge says

(56:14):
it so, yeah, they can go here, one another says no,
they can't go there. Yeah you may. Does that make
any sense to anybody?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Maybe people will start doing some judge shopping to find
a friendly judge when they oh, sure, yeah, that's I
don't I don't. You know, we've talked about this before.
It's it was much different than when National Guard troops
were guarding our nation's capital, d C. Versus troops going
into these cities. And I understand that that that ICE

(56:41):
agents are being attacked and feel unsafe and that shouldn't happen.
But I mean, you know what happens if Gavin Newsom
disagrees with some knit something that Henry McMaster is doing
and decides to send National Guard troops in here to
invade Columbia. Are we We're not going to be happy
about that. I think this is a dangerous president.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, but also ramping up the danger here. Keep in
mind that Brandon Johnston or Johnson always mix up Johnson
and Chicago, john Ston and Denver, but Johnson in Chicago
is pretty much declared war here for all intents and purposes.

(57:20):
How will Chicagoans react to that? Be interesting to see
and if they react in a not good matter, who
gets to blame for that one? Right?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I can't imagine living in Chicago and not begging for
some type of relief right exactly, and telling my elected
officials if you don't want Texas troops at your doorstep,
then do something about the violence, right.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Which they're not doing. We've got Tropical Storm Jerry out
there and Allington by all of them looks of it.
It's going to be just what the rest of them
have done. Kind of head this way and then take
a turn to the north.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Good.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
So we're October eighth now on the calendar. At least
you've got what November first, counterwise, end of hurricane season,
and we're going to the Jays and none of them
have actually come close, although the Northeast will get hit
with the northeaster coming up later on this weekend looks like.

(58:18):
And out west, I don't know that I've heard of
this before. Out West, you've got Hurricane Priscilla that now
has in his cone of uncertainty California and Arizona, Arizona
co figure and Pam Bondy in an exchange with Richard
Blumenthal yesterday. Wonder why this had happened before. Maybe it

(58:40):
has in a heated exchange through your testimony. Yeah, she
went there. She brought up Bloomenthals lying about his military record. Nice.
Nice our final thoughts there. There you have it for Wednesday,
October the eighth Spawn
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