Home Improvement Show 03-01-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Good morning and welcome in. It's the home improvement show
of the Midlands on one O three point five FM
and five sixty am. Wvoc and welcome to the first
day of the month of March. Wow, when did that happen?
Just did? Good to have you with us. I'm Gary
David coming up. We're gonna be talking to a Jeremy Holliday.
He is mister electric here in the Midlands. He always

(00:34):
says a great tip the things I've never even known
about electricity honestly, so it's a little scary, but he'll
be by to help us out. Summer from Beaver Roofing
and Gutters is going to drop in in the next
half hour. First up though, on the dock at this
morning it's Russ MARCHESI from Finishing Touch Team. Good morning,
my friend. How the heck are you? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Good morning Gary, good to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Ready for springtime?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Brother, I am I have more than I'm done with
this cold weather?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh please? My wife is she's been done with it.
She's been knowing if since the first cold snap.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
She was asked she was out power washing stuff earlier
in the week. Oh yeah, you know, she's a doer. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
You gotta be you gotta be yeah, yeah, ready for this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Today. We also are delighted to introduce you to uh
a guest you brought in with you, and that is
Lisa Jurgensen Viall on interiors and interior designer. Lisa, it
is wonderful to meet you.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Glad to meet here, Gary, So nice to meet you. Finally,
some people see you every morning every morning to do well.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, it's it's it's very
nice to meet you. And I'm curious here, see because
you know, I think of interior designers, okay, with you know,
working with you know this, uh you know thing or
that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
But but an.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Interior designer when it comes to working with painters like
Russ and the folks at Finishing Touch Team, how does
how does that work?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Oh? It works? It works. I have to Well, first
of all, we'll back up that Russ and I met Gosh,
we've known each other for about.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Long time, Lisa fifteen and say it at least.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
I've been in business for a while, so you have
has been my go to painter, but uh mine too.
Now by the way, Yeah, you can't find anybody better
than Rest and his team have finishing touch. But I
of course that's like the number one item to check

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off on clients is painting. I need a paint. I
need to paint. And uh, there's been times i've you know,
Russ has come in. He's and I can take you
back through like our steps because I would like for
you to know how how.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
It's how we lay it out.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
But they've maybe gone with somebody that's you know, well
my friend recommended so and so, and they always come
back to me, Oh it.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Happens, It does happen.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Yeah, it does, Like can you get Russ in or
you know, it's just they and I.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I'll lay out what he does for me.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
But yeah, and I always appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Lisa.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, we we've been working together so long right
that we know, we know how each other works. We've
been doing we've done so many jobs together, and you
know what you're gonna get right, just like I do.
I know what I'm getting. When Lisa's on the job
and she's designing everything, she's coordinating everything right, because it's
not just paint with her, it's she's coordinating tiles, she's

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coordinating cabinetry, all sorts of stuff. All the time. So
there's a lot of logistics with all that, right, a
lot of planning, a lot of communications things like that.
So her and I work together extremely extremely well with that.
And that's that's tough sometimes right with with with some
people because they don't have all their ducks in a

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row or whatever the case is. But she knows what
she is getting with us as.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Us talking about me right now, Lisa.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, but uh, but yeah, it is a process, like
you said, isn't it, Lisa, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
It's a process.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So yeah, so we're talking about more than just pain
now because oh yeah, you got to tie everything together.
By the way, it's agreeable gray now officially out.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's mentioned quite a.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Bit because we had a whole house a few years ago.
Is that the whole house was an agreeable gray.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Well, yes, it's a neutral. It goes well with a
lot of different things, right, Lisa. But so the grays
were in for like would you say they're starting to
go out?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know, the last Home improvement show you were asking
about trends.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
You know, what's in and what's out, And.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Honestly, yeah, there there's a lot of things that do
that are more in the forefront each year, and then
they get pushed aside and something else comes.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
But it makes these decisions well exactly.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
It's it's all of what the homeowner likes. You know,
if they like a seventies look, I'm not gonna go
in and try.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
To change that. You work with it. And you know,
some of the like the neo.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Classics probably are out, but I still probably have some
remnants of that in my home.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
So why to Lisa, because you you don't push things
on people. Okay, it's their home, they have to live there, right,
You're not trying to push your agenda, your look or whatever.
You work with what they have and what they like.
And that's why I've always loved working with you. I mean,
it's a right and that is you know that's unique sometimes,
I mean, I'm telling you it's it's she does a
really really good job with that.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
We normally think, Lisa, if somebody highing and interurity desire
to come in and you know, put together the look
they're looking for in their home. But I suspect that
there are times when you're going in situations where somebody's
either flipping a home or not anticipating keeping it, or
maybe they're gonna put on the market and sell it.
Now that's a different approach, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
It is?

Speaker 6 (05:56):
But the this is where Russ really comes in. So
what I'll do is go into a homeowners and they
want to paint, and in their mind they're just thinking, oh,
they're just going to come in, just pick a color
and we'll slap it up.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
And when Russ comes in, what we.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Do is we walk the whole space that they want
and he notices such imperfections on the ceiling. The homeowner
might not even think it's a big deal, but it's
a big deal. Once you repaint, they'll pick out, you know, cracks,
they'll have to go back through and retate the ceiling,
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Just fix we see it all.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
I really do, really And if he doesn't take care
of that first, and you have to educate the client
that they're not going to come in and just just paint.
It's a process, it's steps. And so he points out
things that if we don't take care of this, this
isn't going to look good or this isn't going to

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look good, and so now we kind of know. So
I really appreciate that about, you know, him finding things
that I might not even see.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, when y' all came in and did our
master bathroom a few months ago. At first we started
talking about it, I had no idea, And now that
you know, I mean, day one ain't no painting and
getting done on day one. It's all prep work, Garrett. Yeah,
it's all sand and down, it's all fixing the imperfections
and in our case, uh and this was just a
you know, not even a big master bathroom. Okay, So

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so day one was that Day two, the guys came
in and put the paints up. But then at the
end of that day he said, you know what, that's
not quite dry as quick as we want to, and
we don't want to put another coat on it right now.
So you know, y'all took the time over the course
of three days. Yeah, it's right to finish the job.
That's that's what's needed.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know, you don't want to rush anything like that
because it it does affect the finish, you know, it
absolutely does. And there's just a process to everything, and
every situation is different, every house is different. There's just
so many variables in all of this, right, and there's
a process for each one of those and the key

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is just knowing all of those processes, what you need
to do, how you need to go about it, and
being able to pivot, I guess right in the moment
to accommodate those things and you know, go about it
in a different way. I mean, we do this all
the time. And it's not just about I mean, look,
it's not just about quality, right, Like the quality is

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number one, But we're a business, so we have to
do it, you know, efficiently to make the company the
most money obviously, and that's what we're in business for.
But it's you know, quality and then you know, how
quickly is it going to take all these different things.
We pivot all the time, so we might try two
three different things actually going about something and it doesn't

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work and we've got to switch up and we go
a different way and it works out great, you know,
and we save some time doing it. And we do
this all the time, right, But but you got to
know what you're looking at as you go into it.
And again we just you know, Lisa, we've been working
together for over fifteen years. I think, actually, how long

(09:08):
have you been in business for I've.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Been twenty over twenty two years.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Twenty that's what I thought. Yeah, so this summer we'll
be at twenty three as well. That's a long time.
It's been I'm doing this stuff a long time, so.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
You know, we'll know what my clients want, and they
want somebody that's going to protect their furniture, protect their
floors coming in, be careful if they have to move
any One. Thing that we did discover is we don't
like messing with blinds, and they will take them down.
But blinds are window treatment. So I've got a team,

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and that's what's so important of an interior designer is
if you don't have that a team, then they are
The clients are dependable dependent on who I bring into
their home right and it has to be someone that's loyal,
that's on. They can unlock the door, go in. I
don't worry about them. And Russ has been that person

(10:05):
because they start early and they I give them the
code to the home and the homeowner has to They're
relying on me to bring in an honest, dependable person
that is going to protect their their problems.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
You're like a contractor in this business. I am right, especially, Yeah,
you can lay out the vision and then you put
all the people together and bring the ben folks like
finishing touch team to get the job done right.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
And they depend on who I bring in. And the
other thing is they know that I'm just going to
make it like they know if something was missed, you know,
and not everything's perfect.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
But it Russ will come back eights later.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Exactly a month later later. I mean we do.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I tell folks that all the time, you know. So
we'll finish a job, let's say, excuse me, and I
always tell them we'll do a walk through at the end, right,
But I always tell them I don't care if you
see something two months from now. Maybe you know, we
don't see everything right now. We're just walking through. It's
bright out, it's sonny. Whatever the case is. You see something,

(11:09):
call me right we will be more than happy to
take care of it. We're all human, you know. There's
things that get missed. Sometimes we try really hard, not
too obviously, right, but occasionally there is. And that's to me,
that's a big distinctive portion of it as well. I mean,
coming back taking care of things. Just it's all about integrity,
right at the end of the day. That's what it

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really comes down to. And and our names are on
this and we go the extra mile to always make
sure that it's right, Lisa, and I think that's why
you and I have worked out so well for as
long as we have. It's because we were both like
minded like that as well.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
We really are.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And yeah, let me just mention this too, because on
the front end, like you were talking about earlier imperfections
and things pointed out, Russ's esteem will point out that
your typical homeowner or business owner wouldn't even notice. Truth
of the matter is, when the job is said and done,
you guys are looking for imperfections afterwards that you see

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that I don't see.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
We are always yeah, now always it's uh. And sometimes
you don't see the imperfections, right Lisa, until you put
a coding on something. Okay, that's a lot of times
the case. So you know, we have to prepare for
that and not just leave it right like, once it's
visible and we see it, we have to take care

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of it because it's at the end of the day,
it's just going to make our paint job look better.
It's going to make her overall job look better, and
it's just you know, the next right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
So let me ask you this, Lisa, I mean, how
does this process work when when someone contacts you. I
guess I could run the gamut from well, I just
need a little bit of help with this, or I
need a whole wholesale change here, right, what do you start?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
So a lot of times a homeowner might want two
rooms at you know, just I'm just looking at two rooms.
Maybe down the line, I could do you know, another
at another room. And so Russ is fine, his team
is fine with coming in and this is what I
like about him, and a lot of painters don't do this.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
They send me.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
The scope of work. Two coats, where were the areas
that we're doing all the way down trim baseboards, you know,
around a medallion. It's just very detailed scope, which I
like because we have to we have to make sure
that everything is covered. There was a client in the

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past that came back and this it wasn't Russ, but
it was another painter and on his scope he said
two coats.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
But he was there every day.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
With that painter and he only did one coat and
that turned into a big deal.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah for me.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
So you have to have that scope and not just
so well we'll come in and do this, and that
they go back and look at it, and then it
saves us as well, because it could be where I
thought y'all were going to do the bathroom and that
never was on we never had talked about it or
never was on the scope.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
So it's important for Russ and I to have that
scope to get to the clients so.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
They know the homeowner right right, yeah, because it's everything's
in black and white, so we know exactly what we're
doing with the scope is but also for the homeowner,
so there's no confusion, there's no well I thought he
said this, or I thought you said that, there's none
of that when when when we're doing a project and.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Uh what type of pain exactly?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, it's very detailed, laid out. You have the front,
you have it really be well, this is supposed to
be a very rewarding job for you, Lisa, because oh
I love it. You go in and sometimes you got
just a blank slate and you're you're painting a masterpiece
over it. Right, you're not. You're not man, you're not
making widgets, You're every Every job has got to be different.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Right, it's different, and a lot of times the homeowner
thinks they know a color, and then you'll go in
and be like, what color were you thinking?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
And you'll be like, ah, I was thinking this, and you'll.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Be like, oh, let me, let me show you some
other colors, because I've been dealing with colors and I
know what looks good.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
I know it looks getting the light in the dark.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I know.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Very you just you know what's gonna and they'll be skeptical,
but once it goes on the wall, they'll be like, oh,
I'm so glad that you told me so not painted.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
What colors are hot right now?

Speaker 6 (15:15):
My go to for cabinets, kitchen cabinets, if somebody wants
a lighter you know, like maybe paint or oak and
glad you brought cabinets up. But like an oak colored
alabaster is my favorite I've heard.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah gray color.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
Yeah, it just is a.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Kind of off whitish.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, it's not quite white. It looks great with a
white trim.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
The you know, timeless colors it is that.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Will never go out.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Then you've got, of course, like natural tan is really.
My favorite dark color though is cyberspace. It is a
dark blue black and sometimes the clients are like oh gosh,
no way, we're talking cabinets now, well walls, yeah, wow, absolutely,
and they.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It goes up and it is amazing.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
On if you just want like a really dramatic color
drenching as you have to talk some clients into that,
and that's where you do the entire room as one
color baseboards, walls, ceiling, the.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Name of that one just dramatic.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
But it looks great, looks so really it looks really
it really.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do you find that a lot of times you go
in and somebody thinks they think they want this, and
do you you wind up going to something else.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
All the time.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
All the time they and they are glad that you
and that's they don't have any experience in colors and
pain What.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Goes to because you have to it is you have to.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Think of what we're doing in the whole space, not
just look you know, with a vision tunnel vision to
like we're just painting, well, we're looking at your fabrics, flooring, countertops,
you know, even down to the finishes of what's gonna
look all those coming.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
To There's been so many customers that you know that
I've heard Lisa where you know color it gets intimidating, right,
you know, it's hard to pick these things out. Sometimes
it costs money, so people don't want to waste money,
so it becomes intimidating. And what ends up happening a
lot of times is it gets pushed to the side
possibly or you know, they put they put it for

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for the next year and whatnot. That's what works out
so well with uh does this team work with Lisa
and I because she's great with all the designing and
the colors. Takes all that away so that you know
she'll meet with you, right, They give you ideas, you
work from those ideas. It's just a really really cool process,
and I feel like it takes a lot of the

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anxiety and stress off of the customer as well. And
I think it's well worth it. I really do. It's
it's just to.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Break it down if they are, like if they want
in the future to add another room. He's really great
about working down working, you know, separating the rooms.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
This is what yeah, all the time for.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well, we're at a time here, look at that time
flies when we're having line. Well, Lisa, it's it's v
Alon Interiors, that's right. Uh, how do folks reach you
for your expert advice?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
I am on the website v alon dot com.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's VI I E E l A N that's correct,
v al on dot com.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Elana Tears.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I'd love to help anybody, and I'll send Russ their
way because he's amazing.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
I wouldn't trust anybody else.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, and of course Finishing Touch Team Finishing Touch Team
dot com. Yeah, we'll just call you on your personal
self or just call me.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah. Eight oh three four six seven six seven five nine.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
All right, Lisa, wonderful to beat you you.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Too, Gary, thanks so nice. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
We'll see you soon.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Thank you.

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we welcome you back to the home improvement show of
the Midlands. On one O three point five FM and
five sixty AM WVOC and we welcome into the studio
Jeremy Holliday, mister elector. Good to see you, buddy. How
are you man?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Good? Great, good, good to see you man.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hey, So here we are you' it's it's well, we're
not quite far. We're closing it on spring time, we'll
put it that way. Yeah, getting close to it? Is
this because you know, this is the time of the
year coming up when you know, lots of folks on
the show here get real busy. You know, people are
you know, fixing up and getting things fixed and everything else.

(21:07):
Is do you have like a like a you know,
a season where things get really busy in your world?
And mister electric Or is it's pretty much just you know.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
We we stay pretty steady, you know. Oh yeah, pretty
much a steady h flow of calls, you know, because
because you do we have a little slow down period,
but not really a real you know pick up time.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well that I've noticed.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Certain certain things though, I mean, it doesn't matter what
time of the year, somebody's got an electrical problem. They
got electrical problem. Yeah, but you know, for example, you
people started getting out and saying, all right, it's time
to start thinking about you know, doing some stuff in
the yard, you know, and fixing things up and beautiful.
I now you guys do a lot of that too,
not yard work, but.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, we do some landscape lighting for you escape lighting
and you know, dark areas in your home. If you
need lighting in your home, home somewhere where you've got
a dark area, we can add lighting. If you're cleaning
up and you know, doing some spring cleaning and you
notice you know, cracked outlets or dingy looking devices, or

(22:15):
we can replace those items for you get it looking
top notch. A New devices make a big difference, you know,
if they're twenty thirty years old. A lot of times
new devices go a long way more than you would think.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You're talking devices.

Speaker 8 (22:30):
You're talking about switches, receptacles, you know, those those type
of items.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I mean, let's say I've got a you know, a
receptacle for example, it's twenty years old now, but it works. Yeah,
how could it be upgraded? I mean what would what
would replacing it due for me? What would it make
how that? How would that make it better for me?

Speaker 8 (22:50):
I guess we'll prevent it from from having you know,
a surprise failure. Everything that gets old, you know it's starting.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
To wear out.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, I know that firsthand.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's still working.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
That's good, But proactive, I like to be proactive in
certain things. In your electrical system is something that is mechanical,
and after a certain amount of time, it's something that
you should be thinking about whether it's working or not,
taking a look at it and getting some of these
items replaced to prevent any kind of surprise failure.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's kind of one of those things. And maybe it's
because we don't see them. We don't see the wire
and we don't see all that stuff. It's hidden from us.
You know, it's out of sight, out of mind. We
only know something's wrong with something don't work right. So yeah,
I guess by and large, most people don't really think
about that as much as other things like yo, I
don't know your roof or your pain job or your

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flooring or whatever you see all the time. It's again
out of sight, out of mind, So yeah, we forget that.
There's really you know, upgrades and updates and in preventive
medicine the public needs to have when to come you're wiring.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
Absolutely, it makes it a lot more cost effective if
you if you're proactive and you maintain your system and
rather than calling emergency services being without power, uh, hotel
rooms whatever, the cost of everything is whenever. Uh, you know,
it's a surprise failure.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
One of the biggest things you see when you go
into homes that that that that need to be upgraded.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
What are the man services?

Speaker 8 (24:27):
You know, electrical services that are you know, got panels
that don't have a main breaker? Uh, just old obsolete
systems that are just barely hanging on by a thread,
you know. Uh, so a lot of old services uh
around wh when you say services, so the the panel

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box in your home where the breakers are, uh, the the.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Meter socket outside. You know, a riser.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
Some people have a their house is fed overhead. Risers
are dilapidated.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
That's your service where the point of where it comes
into the home and then the distribution center where it
puts it out to all the things you use in
your house.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So yeah, I guess, and most of us probably get
it wrong. I would think some of those things you
just described, you know, wires coming to the home or whatever,
we would think that would be the responsibility.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Utility up to the point of attachment.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Okay, So where you have a pipe that goes up
or a pipe that goes down into the ground, the
point of attachment for the pipe that goes up overhead.
Up to that point is your responsibility.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So basically, when it touches your house, it becomes yours.
That's right, Okay. You know, typically how old does a
home have to be? Before you you were saying, you know,
obviously if a home was built the forts of the fifties,
that would be maybe pretty obvious that if the electricity
has never been upgraded or what have you, it probably

(26:08):
needs to be. But I mean how far back do
you go? I mean fifteen years, twenty years, twenty five.
I mean, let's see a service.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, depending on the twenty five to thirty years
is a good rule of thumb. It's time to start
looking at that service and see how you know, at
least get it looked at.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Call us out do an inspection on the home.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
We can go over all kinds of new items out
there that'll make that home electrical system safer, such as
afciebreaker surge protection, ground fault protection. If you need a
new service, if we find heat damage er or it's
just an obsolete type panel. In order to prevent it

(26:54):
from having an emergency failure where you're in a bad situation,
we can let you know what it's going to cost,
schedule a time to do it, and then you'd be
prepared for it and be good for another thirty years.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know how long want someone did that take? I
mean it's actually the downtime for the customer, homeowner, business owners,
what have you.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Depends on the service.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
Some services are pretty straightforward, can take you know, two days.
Panel changes that they maybe sometimes a little longer if
they need to be moved. So there's all kinds of
factors that go into play when you're building a service.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Just due to code updates.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Where the service is located, if it's still acceptable service
wire disconnect outside for the service, you may not have that.
So there's all kinds of different factors that come into
play when you're building a service.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Just out of curiosity, you mentioned code updates, so they
come down fast and furious. I'm sure. I mean, I
mean different cod updates have you've seen in your time?

Speaker 8 (27:56):
Electricity business man, I've been doing this for thirty years.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You've seen a few.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
I's seen a few. Yeah, it's hard to say. It's
it's updated every three years, but that doesn't necessarily mean
that things are changing for your system. It just means,
you know, there's new things that came out, you know.
So every three years though, the code is updated, but
it doesn't necessarily change everything in the codebook.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's just stuff that's added.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Or things they've found issues where it need to be corrected.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
What are the biggest changes you've seen over your thirty
years in the business when it comes to you know,
updates and such. I mean, is it tough to nail down?
Just want it?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, it's to.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
Nail down because I mean when I started, you didn't
have the ground switches. Now you have the ground switches.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
You know, didn't have any AFC eyes.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
Gfcies were only required in a couple places, you know,
bathrooms and and kitchens you know, and outside, but now
they're they're all over, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
So so that's just gets me wonder. For example, if
you're selling a home or buying a home and the
home Inspectra comes in, you don't have a g GFCI
in you know, near a sink or a bathroom or
a kitchen what have you. Yeah, you'll probably get flagged
on that.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
One, right, Yes, oh a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
What about the other code updates that have come down
over the years, say for a home that was built
forty years ago, there's been a lot of updates come down.
I mean those things ever get flagged.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
You know, Yeah, we've seen it depends, I know, I know.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Home inspectors can sometimes have a different you know, we
you know, price for a different type of inspection, you know,
a real thorough focused.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
I know when I had my house inspected, I had
four different options and one, you know, the cheapest was like,
you know, around five hundred, and the most expensive was
twenty five hundred. So I imagine the home inspection based
on what you're trying to get out of it, basic
home inspection that they're probably not gonna flag a bunch
of items. They're looking for immediate problems, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Like a rotted but these are these are peeing or something.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You know, they're kind of jacks of all trades. I mean,
they're not electricians necessarily probably not that also, so they
may not even know what to look for when it
comes to something as detailed as that.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I guess, yeah, that's right. But they're good, they're getting good.
I know, I know.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Some of the biggest things hit on is JIFF. You know,
ground fault circuit interrupters, ground fault protection, which keeps you
from getting electrocuted, protects you there's any kind of leaking
current and you come into contact with it, UH, that
GIF I should trip instantly before you ever make contact
with it. It's going to detect that leaking current and
shut down. So ground fault protection and smoke detectors UH.

(30:49):
Smoke alarms and UH are two of the biggest that
we see on home inspection reports.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
And interesting you bring up the we've talked about this before,
you smoke alarm, smoke detectors. And so we moved Bottle
Home back last August, and that was about the time
you and I started talking. And when we moved to
that house, I said, Man, there are durned smoke detectors
all over this house. I have never lived in a

(31:16):
home that had that many. But that's changed, right.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's one of the updates in the code.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
Over time, they've added them in more and more areas
and got a little more stringent with them based off
I guess, you know, off of experiences.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
With not having them.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
So when I started thinking it was one in the
house on each level and that was it, you know,
kind of in a central location.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I'm a going to beth that unless a home has
been built in the last couple of years or sold
in the last couple of years, that probably the majority
of homes don't have anywhere near as many as are
now recommended. Right, how many should you have? I mean,
what's what's the rule of thumb? Now?

Speaker 8 (31:55):
Okay, so one in every bedroom, a smoke detector, one
on every level of the home, one outside the vicinity
of every bedroom, so you know within a fifteen foot
of a bedroom door, there should be another outside the
bedroom there should be another detector depending on if you
have gas or if your garage is attached to your home,

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where you access the house through the garage would also
mean you'd need.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Carbon monoxide.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Combination type multi criteria type detector's alarms.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So I don't think it was maybe overkilled this house
right now, because if you walk into the house the
door from the garage, there's one right there, walk in
inside the home, and then there's probably about a five
foot wall and then it turns and then there's another
one right there in the kitchen. It's okay, it seems
a little duplicative, but whatever. It just doesn't hurt.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
No, it's not gonna hurt because if there's something going on,
you want them to go off. And I think that's
the whole the whole point having them in multiple areas, uh,
scattered throughout the house wherever a fire where to occur.
They're interconnected. So the first one that detects smoke is

(33:14):
going to alert all the rest. So no matter where
you're at in the house, it's going to give you
a better reliable, more reliable response to uh, get out
of that home.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Okay, I didn't realize it. Were they all kind of
talk to each other now.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Yeah, So if you have a fire on the far
end of the house and you've got a smoke detector
right above where that little fire started, that smoke detector
is going to go off and alert you all the
way across the house at another smoke detector. Whereas if
you had a smoke detector in the middle of your
house and that was it, that smoke would have to
creep all the way through the house to give to
that smoke, to that smoke alarm, and and by that

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time you may not have as much time as you
would have had. You're not going to have as much
time as you would have had before to get out
of that home because you were alerted late.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You see.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, so if you're if you're still rocking the one
or two smoke detectors in your home, it's probably time
to upgrade that.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, call us out there.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Well we'll we'll run you a whole new smoke detector,
smoke alarm system, multi criteria alarms, the alarms.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
We used to have a ten year.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Battery h the nice Yeah, yeah, if you should annually
going to start.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
And that.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
So I got like thirty five.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Of them my house, Yeah oh yeah, so but still
the big house, you got that gate.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It just seems like they put them everywhere. I don't know.
We got a minute or two left. Let's talk quickly
about something we started off mentioning that is a you know,
outdoor landscape lighting. I mean, you guys again do a
lot of that work. Yeah, And I think that maybe
we some of us think that man, that's gonna be
like really complicated, but it really isn't. I mean, the
way you guys do it.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
No no, it's uh, you know, landscape lighting is pretty
simp project, especially if you do it, you know, and
you and you've done it. Uh yeah, so it's not
a it's not a it's a lot of digging and.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know, stuff that a lot of people don't want
to do. But yeah, you know, so that's why they
call us.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, yeah, but the way you guys do it, I mean,
if you're thinking, I want to destroy my front yard right,
landscape lighting out.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
But no, no, no, we can you know, we get
we don't even really need a trench. We can cut
grooves in your yard deep enough for because it's going
to be low vault lighting.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
So that that means so that that that wire doesn't
have to be buried just deeply.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
No, it doesn't have to be down according to the
code for for a regular voltage.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
What's the what's the difference? Why is that?

Speaker 8 (35:44):
Well, the twenty you know, twelve vaults isn't you know,
it's like a battery lane in your yard. It's not
going to shock you, you know. And then uh, when
you get to one hundred and twenty vaults, now you're
now you're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
If you get hit with one hundred and twenty vaults.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
You know it's okay, can cause harm or fires, So
there's protection involved with once you get up to that voltage.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You have to bury it a.

Speaker 8 (36:08):
Certain depth, and you have to have it on certain
type of overcurrent protection device and ground fault protection and
all that. So the low voltage does away with a
lot of that, where you just plug it into a
one twenty vault power source and then the transformer that
you hang outside drops it down to a twelve vault

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system and you're able to run that low voltage wire
in the yard a lot easily, a lot easier at
that point.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
And the fixtures you're using now these are all they
have these LED now right there. Oh yeah, you know
to worry about replacing BOLD.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
You want to go with LED.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Whether you can get the different time, you can get
all kind of bulbs, but LED is the best way
to go.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Man, They're going to last longer.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
The biggest problem I see with people in LEDs is
you have to read the fine print because LEDs are
designed for the type of fixture they're going to be installed,
the usage that the way they're going to be used.
There's dimmable LEDs and there's ones that aren't domiable, and
then you know, we'll get calls about strobing lights a

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lot of time.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
That's because you have a regular LED.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
On a dimmer and it just won't it won't work
that that vultage is going to cause it.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
The strobe or UH.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
LED bulbs that are made for open fixtures, and they
have them in enclosed fixtures. So if you put an
LED that's in an open that's made for open fixture type,
then in a an enclosed fixture, it's gonna go out
fairly quickly because it's just not designed to stand the
heat and there's no escape for that heat. So the
LED is gonna go cou put on you. So you know,

(37:44):
you have to read the box of the LED and
not just pick the cheapest one. So if you see
the you go to the shelf and it says, you know,
six ninety nine for this LED, twelve ninety nine for
that LED, there's normally a reason if it's the same brand, uh,
even though it looks like the same bulk, this design
for a different type of application.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Read the fine print. YEP, all right, Jeremy Holiday, mister electric,
Whether folks need to need some help in fixing something
or checking something out or outdoor landscape a landscape lighting.
How do folks get a hold of you guys and
gets you out there.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
On the job. Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
They can call us at eight zero three eight six
eight four to two, four to three, or they can
go online to mister Electric dot com forward slash Columbia.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
All right, Jeremy, good to see you, buddy, Get.

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To see you, gay.

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Speaker 1 (40:01):
Back on the Home improvement show in the Midlands with
Summer from Beaver Roof again Gutters Summer. Good morning, let's
talk a little bit about gutters this morning, shall we.

Speaker 12 (40:10):
We'll do it.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I'm down, okay, cool, And we talked to I guess
a couple of weeks ago. Heath was on with me
and he's he's the guy in charge all your gutter stuff.

Speaker 12 (40:21):
That is right.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And we had Heath outs of the houses past summer
and installed those six in seamless gutters. As I was
telling he, it's not like we didn't have gutting our house.
We had gutters. They were there when we bought the
house and we're probably all the house was built back
in the eighties or whenever it was the nineties, I
guess it was. But the gutters that y'all put up
are a bit different from the gutters that if your

(40:44):
home is you know, fifteen, twenty years old, or maybe
even if you had gutters recently, your gutters are a
little different from the ones that may be on your
house right now. How is that so?

Speaker 12 (40:56):
Like you said, six inch seamless metal gutters are so
before they were a little bit smaller, they were a
five inch gutter. Some may be metal, however, some actually
came in six excuse me, ten inch sticks of guttering,
so they would seem those together. So with that being said,

(41:17):
when there are themes, there are more opportunities for leaking,
more opportunities for damaging collapse and that sort of thing
that's just a week a week spot in the guttering system,
and more opportunities for failure. So yes, our gutters are
six inch seamless, seamless gutters, and they are metal. Like

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like you were saying, some could have been made of
like a thick plastic. They don't do that often anymore,
but like you said, if your home is older, they
could be made of plastic. So our gutters are literally
custom fit for your home. When our guys come out.
They have a big gutter machine in the back of

(42:01):
the truck. It's pretty cool to wipe. So your gutters
start as a flat piece of metal. Then they process
it and they run it through the machine and it
you know, they'll measure, They take all of their measurements,
and we actually doll it in and they know exactly
just how long it is. When that flat metal comes out,
it's a K style shaped gutter and that's what we install,

(42:25):
and you know it fit perfectly for you. They stop
the machine, they chop it right there and bam, it's
perfectly made for your home. Custom fit.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
And yeah, you've been telling us for years how much
more water these gutters can move as opposed to a
five inch I get it because you think, now, okay,
I said, so an inch bigger, what's the big deal here?
But I know.

Speaker 12 (42:47):
Bigger is better? Ye, No, but like you said, the inch,
it's it is. It's crazy to think. However, from that
five inch to the six inch gutter. The six inch
gutters hold forty percent more volume of water, so it
is able to accept that much more water from your roof,

(43:09):
take it and divert it away from your home. You
know a lot of times when they are not adequate enough,
they'll fill up, they'll spill over. You know, if they're
five inches, they could spill over the front.

Speaker 10 (43:24):
If your gutters.

Speaker 12 (43:25):
Are not in great condition, you have not really maintained
those gutters, it could actually spill back into your home
and it will appear to be leak but it's not.
So there is a number of things that could happen
when one your gutters are not large enough, or two
when they're not maintained properly. So you know, that's another

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thing that you should really be making a note of
and doing when you're doing your checklist of monthly or
yearly things to do for your home.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, and you know that was And I knew this
because we talked about it for so long, but you know,
it was earlier that I was past. This past spring,
we had just a heavy downpour one day and I
looked out there and sure enough, there's watering over the
fronty gutters. And I gotta tell you then, my next
thought was, Okay, boy, I sure hope it's not running
over the back of the gutter too. Uh right, So yeah,

(44:20):
I was, you know, I was a little warreous. Okay,
will you guys come out, boy, I hope I gotta
pull those old gutters down and find this damage of
the face behind it, because that can happen.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
It happens a lot. It happens often because you know,
it's just you know, gutters. They they are kind of
like the unsung hero. I can suf you will of
your home. You know they're there, they're great, they're doing
their job. However, if you forget about them, don't maintain them,
or you know you don't have them, there is so
much damage that could be done. Obviously, we talk a

(44:50):
whole bunch about foundation problems. Yes, that is one thing
that you know, over time it can happen. Your foundation
can become you know, it can settle, crack, you know,
and water intrusion that is a large, large problem. However,
like you said, facia soft it. If you have wood
facia or soft it and you're not caring correctly, for one,

(45:13):
the gutter system right that you do have, or to
the lack of gutters, that wood can become damaged soft
and that's just more ways for water to get in
through there, or to critters, spiders, other insects or even

(45:33):
like squirrels and things of that nature. So it's just
more ways for things that should stay outside to come inside.
So you got to you gotta take you know, take
cautions that take time for these little things.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Since you brought this up, fining to is when you
talk about properly maintaining your gutters, what does that involve?
How do you properly maintain a go system that's already
on your home?

Speaker 12 (45:58):
Sure, so cleaning them they need to be cleaned. You know,
we do have a bi annual and then we have
an annual cleaning service. It really depends on your area
that you live in and how much foliage is around
and that sort of thing. You know, you want to
make sure that they're cleaned. If they're clean, the water

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has a clearer channel, clear a clear way to get
to those downspouts and away from your home. If they're
not clean, there's a lot of build up that can happen,
and that's when things start going a rise over the
top behind the back. So whenever we come out when
we clean these, we're actually looking to make sure that
we get all of the goops, all of the gunk,
all of the granules that come off of your roof.

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And you know, it's not just things that that are
fallen from the sky like I just mentioned things from
your roof. You know, leaves get piled up on your roof.
They go into those gutters, so leaves and granules and
that kind of causes slimmy stuff to acclimate and everything else.
So we're coming out, we're cleaning in your gutters. We're
making sure that they're pitched appropriately to make sure that

(47:04):
that water that falls in goes to those down spouts.
We're making sure that at our corners, because yes, at
the corners we do have seen but we're making sure
that they are caughked correctly. Everything is water tight when
we come out there to clean and maintain these gutters,
So you want to make sure they're fastened nicely into

(47:24):
that the face and everything is sound and water is
going happily away from the home as it should be.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right, And you talk about it, if anybody's ever cleaned
out gutters, you know, as you talk, that's slime, that
gunky stuff builds up in there. And yeah, it's it's
it's a nasty, nasty process. But that stuff not only
is it nasty, it gets heavy. Yes, and I guess
there's a danger there that even if even even in
a drought situation, that stuff gets in there, it gets wet,

(47:53):
it gets nasty, and that weight, I guess could could
potentially start to pull that gutter away from the.

Speaker 12 (47:59):
Home, away from the home. You're exactly right, So you know,
even in like you said, the cold, you know, yes
we do get some rains and whatnot, but if that
stuff gets nasty cold and then freezes, that's even heavier.
So you know, that's why we like to really urge
homeowners to make sure that they are doing this, you know,
right before the fall or right after. You know, you

(48:21):
have all the leaves and stuff falling, cakehorns, whatnot. That's
your calling this out there, making sure that your gutters
are cleaned. We clean those out, We get you ready
for the winter because we want to make sure that
everything is nice clean, all of that debris is out
and ready for any you know, water or freezing and whatnot.

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They're ready, they're ready to do what they need to
do and protect your home.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
So if you have got a protection, which we ought
to do because we had a lot of trees around
the house, absolutely as heath of your guys know so
if you if you've got a gutter protection on there,
I mean, are you out of the woods here or
there's still things you need to be do you still
kind of need to get them checked out every now
and make sure things are honky door.

Speaker 12 (49:05):
So that's a great question. Yes, So we do. We
have two types of gootter protection gooder guards or covers.
There are a lot of different things that people call those,
but yes, we have two different types and when we
install those or suggest those for you, we often look
at the type of foliage that you have. So one
is better for like oak leaves and acorns and things

(49:27):
of that nature. The other is a mesh and it's
really good for pine needles and smaller things that could
possibly get lodged into the the shurflow which has you know,
holes in it. So you know, we want to make
sure that we are giving our customers the appropriate protection
that they need. We don't want to give them something

(49:48):
that's over costly for them, but we need to make
sure that we're evaluating and give them what they need.
So yes, once we have these covers on, it's really
great to come we can come out, we sweep them
because a lot of times it will get on top
of the gut, on top of the guards, which is great.
It's still doing it. It's still they're doing the purpose. However,

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they just need to be swept off and that doesn't
say that sometimes they don't shift here and there. So
we can always come out and just do a maintenance.
That's what we call our our gutter tune up, our
gutter clean out. That's what we're doing. We're coming making
sure that they're all cleaned off, that the pitch is correct,
all the schemes are you know, they're watertight and things
of that nature. So for yes, and no, you know,

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you you're not completely out of the woods, because there's
still just a little bit that needs to be done with,
you know, routine maintenance.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Now I've noticed too, since y'all put those new gutters
in our home that there looks like there's fewer down
spouts than we had before and they look to be bigger.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
That's correct. So that's another thing that comes with these larger,
the larger gutters that we install, these six inches, So yes,
the spouts are bigger, so they can take more water
away than the smaller down spouts that are installed with
the five in so a lot of times that is

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a concern of customers and where down spouts are going
to be placed, and I don't want them in front
of the columns, and listen, I totally get it. That
was a concern of mine whenever I got you know,
when we were installing betters. We don't want to mess
up the pretty aesthetics and that and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I get it.

Speaker 12 (51:28):
So we are very careful when we are placing these
down spouts and we're making sure that it is aesthetically
pleasing when we replacing them. And like you said, we
have we can now offer fewer. We don't need as
many down spouts because these down spouts that we do
install with the sixth inch are larger. You know, it's
win win for everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And sometimes you'll see folks who, boy, it's like they
got this twenty thirty flo it's just sitting out in
the yard, you know, on the on top of the yard.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Movie.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I mean, how how far away do you need to
get that water moved?

Speaker 12 (52:04):
You know, it really depends on the lay of the
land really, and if you're if you are super super flat,
a lot of times what they will do is well,
actually we can actually dig into the ground and place.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
You know that they go.

Speaker 12 (52:21):
From the down spout into the pipes when we bury
the pipe, okay, and it can take it as long
as you need to to get it completely away from
your home.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
All right. So summer is Beaver Roofing and Gutter.

Speaker 12 (52:34):
Call us at eight zero three nine nine one roof
can't forget it. And then we also have our new
website at beaver Roofing dot com.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Terrific.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
All right, Summer, always a pleasure to have yourself a good.

Speaker 12 (52:47):
Weekend, you too, take care.

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