Home Improvement Show 04-05-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Good morning, my friends. Now time once again for the
Home Improvement Show of the Midlands on one three point
five FM and five sixty AM WVOC. Good morning to you.
I hope your wee gets off to a fabulous start.
It's going to be hot enough about to the way
we got going on here. Uh. Coming up, we'll talk
to James Carwell, he owns Freedom Plumbing. Russ Markes is

(00:35):
gonna drop by. We'll talk a little more this morning
with Russ over the Finishing Touch team about pollen season.
Why is he actually turning down work right now because
of it, well, not turning it down, but at least
putting it off. There's a real good reason why that is.
And he'll explain that and we'll go with some other
tips on getting professional painting done at your place like
he's done for us at our place. First up this morning, though,

(00:58):
Marcus Greenwell of Lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I am in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
In the house is getting the started. How you're doing, brother, man,
It's the best day of my life. How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Uh? You know, I may say that same thing, best
day of my life. I'm doing well, man, I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Say what I was sitting there listening to and turn
and just smiling, just just enjoying my day. This is
a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well we should be, yeah, I mean we should be. Yeah,
we focus too much on the negativeness. That's right, Look
at the positives.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's right, positively doing some granted and countertime.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well okay, so let's set this up now, because typically
you're kind of the you're kind of the the guy
as the owner of Lifetime cabins and countertops. You spend
your day almost actually as an ambassador of sorts, right right.
You know, somebody buys countertops, you need to get those
exact measurements, and that's where you can come in. So

(01:52):
you're you're traveling all over the place every day measuring
for exact fits for countertops, meat, your your your customers
and their dogs and their cats and their babies and
everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm meeting the guy from high school today after the show. Yeah, okay,
I'm going to measure his in yacht cove.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay. And sometimes you're taking you take your dog with you.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I do do.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
He's been he's been in the uh at the house
there for the last couple of months. It's just been
a little bit, you know. When I'm when I've been
running the shop up there and everything like that. I
don't like him being the shop.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
So that's that's that's what's changed here. For the last
month or so. You've been running the operation. Yeah, until
until you get all your folks back up and running.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Chaping Road out there in Shape beautiful chapin. But uh,
I've been running show. Todd got knee surgery and he's back.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
He's back.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, so uh but but my brother now has gone
to a retreat out in the mountains with his church group,
so he's gone for for a week. So I'm still
running the show.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And so so things have been happening out in Shaping. Yeah,
Marcus is setting the bar high for the rest of
the crew.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, A whole stack of molders and sails that I did.
I was like, only cow man, I'm pretty good at this.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
A lot of this has been what I said, a lot,
But I mean one of the big pushes you've had
on here. M h. We've been talking about it for
months now, is to de clear a lot of the remnants. Now,
I like to call these not used but.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Unused right right cuts.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay, there's a reason you have so many of.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Them cuts from kitchens, like if I was to do
like when I did your kitchen, well, yeah, multiple kitchens
for you.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
When I did your kitchen.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The one with the courts, the one with the marble,
and uh and we did remnants in your bathrooms.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So your remnant from the marble at the old house
to do a fireplace stopper.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah that's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So uh so long story short, I've been out there
selling those units, moving them units. I've had pieces out
there that were quite you know, you know you ever
seen when you're driving through the mountains and seeing the
mountain have like the rust and the water come down
through it. I have one piece out there, it's called

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Rocky Mountain. It looked like Rocky Mountain and uh, and
I sold it for some vanities.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
The client wanted that rustic look and cool and I,
you know, I started to clean it whenever, whenever we
were putting it in, and she goes, no, no, no,
don't clean it, don't clean it. Yeah, I want it
just like that.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So so these are big, these piece are big enough
for bathroom vanities.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Oh yeah, maybe you maybe you want a condo, that's right,
freak it.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Out man, a lot of a lot of houses that
they have kitchen kicking, granted, but they don't have bathrooms.
So it were really if you want to get a
bathroom and be a great time to come see me.
I've got thousands literally, I mean I could probably do
every body on the radio house with a remnant, but
we've been popping them out. They've been telling us that,

(05:07):
you know, I heard you on the radio. I heard
you on the radio left and right. So it really
has been a big factor. So thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's good to hear. And yeah, again you're moving these
remnants at your costs.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So it saves you. There's a couple
of ways it saves you as well. Another way it
saves you is that if you were going into a
box store, you have to buy twenty five square foot
minimum in order to put really the slab. Yeah, whereas
we're you just go in there with us and you

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just pay for the square foot you use. So if
you're doing a ten square foot vanity, that's all you
pay for. You don't have to pay for fifteen foot
or try to find somewhere else to put fifteen foot, right, you.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Know, And it's like buying a regular slab. I mean,
y'all are going to fabricate it, right, you yest all it? Yeah,
not like okay, here's your remnant, enjoy it right, Yeah,
we're gonna cut it, put it put in the back
of the car.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
And cashing it to your space.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Good now, Uh, something interesting seems to be happening. You
were telling me before we came on the air with
what suddenly is hot? Well, one thing is not a
surprise is that Cortch has been hot for.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
A while now.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Courtz is on fire all right, and
that's the man made Yeah. Why is why? Why is
it so popular? Do you think?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
You know?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I had quite?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I guess it's durable and it doesn't have uh it's
non porous, you know. You know, it's durable like the
granite and the marble, and it's non porous, so it's
not gonna absorb wine and that type of thing is
you know, if you accidentally leave some on there, it's
gonna you know, you're gonna come back tomorrow and easily

(06:47):
clean it off. It's it's the one drawback to it
and everybody talks about is the heat. Uh, you know,
taking hot things out of the oven, scorching it and
stuff like that. Maybe a cast iron skillet that's really
really hot. I personally have not seen any scorching of

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the courts, but people talk about it all the time.
That's one I guess. They go on to the internet
and the internet says I saw the internet. Yeah be true. Yeah, yeah,
but I mean I have it. I'm not saying that
it couldn't scorch by all means. If My recommendation is always,
if you've taken a product that you're not used to using,

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take a sample of.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It to the house and test it. Test it yourself.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
What you're going to do normally, if you're going to
take something out of the oven, take it over there
and set it on the sample and see what it
does to it, you know, And I'll let you do
that too. I got thousands and thousands. Matter of fact,
I made a road over there at Chapin. It's the
most expensive road in Chapin, Chaping Road. It's where I like,

(07:54):
literally I've made a road and put granted on top
of it, so you know, put some dirt on top
of it, of course.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's a new trend. Man granite driveways.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Granite driveway.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
If you want one, just go, I'll be happy to
do it for you.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I don't have any millions of dollars in that road. Wow,
it's ten feet deep, so granited chunks.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
But Granted. Suddenly you got even builders that are seen
to be moving away from Granted where they going to.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, Courtz I mean it's weird. Yeah, even house sweepers. Okay,
so courts Court. Well, we are doing this where I
said that earlier, We're doing a lot of quartzite as well.
Court site is real popular for a private homeowner that's
really wanting they're knowing they're not going to move anywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is that like, I mean, if you were to say,
I know you have different levels and all that, but
I mean it's expensive. In general, court site is the
most expensive.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, it's one hundred probably, you know, or more square
foot or less, a little less, maybe a little more
depending on the.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Piece in case high end stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So if you get yeah, if you get it, if
you were to have I don't even know what I
was saying there, got a little distracted. If if you're
wanting to spend some money, you know, if you're going
to live in the house and you have you know,
you this is the look you want. You have money, yeah,

(09:19):
you have some extra money. If you're not worried about money,
you know, court site would be a good way to go.
You know, if you're if you're worried about the budget,
then probably the granite. The level one granites are even
the level one courtzes are cheap enough. You're talking about
a five hundred dollars difference between getting the courts in

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some cases to compared to the granite for a kitchen.
So if it's ten dollars more square foot for example,
and it's the average is fifty square foot per kitchen,
you're talking about five hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
So it's not a whole lot more to get the court.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So that's why these house flippers that show so much
better in the photos that they're they're going with the
level one courts and you know, and they're selling those
houses as quick as they get them on the market.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But now there's some folks who prefer the natural just
because I say this, have you had you installed both?
When you look at the courts is beautiful, but it's depth.
The depth. Yes, you look at it and it's okay
there it is but it doesn't happen with this with
the natural stone. It's almost that you can see into it.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, you definitely have courts and different product. Well,
I'm saying courts compared to courts it had. The granite
has some courtz deposits in it, you know, and that
you can see into it and has different colors and
more interesting in certain cases, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
So all right, but let's let's rewind here for a second,
because we really and because of the price, we don't
spend a lot of time talking about court site, right,
so it's the most expensive mm hmm. How does it
hold up? And we know that you know you want granted,
you can almost beatable sledge hammer literally, but yeah, you know,

(11:05):
I mean, uh, we know marble a little softer. Yeah,
gotta be a little more careful with it. But what
about what about court side? If you go, I'm a
spending the money for the quartzite, baby, is it gonna
hold up as well as say a granite would do?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, hold up better? You know why. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
If you take the hardness scale of marble, it's gonna
be around seven. Granted, is gonna be around eight. Court
site it's gonna be around nine, and diamond is gonna
be at ten. So it's above the hardness scale of granite.
So it's even harder than the granite that you have
to be with a hammer to damage it.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
So what makes it so expensive is just the the
rarity of it.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, it's beautiful, it looks like marble, but it performs
better than granted.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I mean, you know it's gonna cost you more
both worlds.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, and so it goes I guess what the
reason why it goes up in costs and on my cases,
because we purchased the slab, and so we base the
price off of what the.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Slab cost us.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Sure, yeah, so a level one grand it's gonna cost
us a lot less than the level six seven court sits.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
See you can explain this to me all these years.
You can have just take a grant for example, Yeah,
you can have a level one granite, but you can
have a level.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Two granite, right, yeah, all the way a little Yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
What what differentiates a level one grand from a level two,
three or four granted? And then you've got that, but
you got the every different stone type, you've got that
same leveling thing going on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, some of it is granite marble infusion. Uh, some
of it has to do with having the courts in
it and you know different you know, some of it
you can shine lights through. I mean, so it seems
it seems to me like what they're doing is if
something is prettier, get it's got a high Yeah. Yeah,

(13:03):
I think so that makes sense in my opinion. And
then some of this funny thing is is you don't
lose any value between the lower granite and the higher granite.
As a matter of fact, the higher grantite tends to
have more blowouts because it has different types of stone
in it, because of those different colors. So what I
what I call a blowout is it sometimes piece will

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come out during transportation or installation. You have to put
it back on it.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's a blowout. Yeah. So it's kind of like a
car blowout.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You blow out the car tire, you put a new
tire on it, you know, but I mean, not.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
A good look get back together a good yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well, I mean, well, I mean it's it's natural fissures
that are causing that. I mean, it's natural stone. So
it is a stone I've had, I've had them literally
come apart in the middle before during installation. I mean
that's you know, and that's probably that probably has something
to do with costing more. I don't know, but uh,
because they have more waste during transportation and stuff like that.

(14:03):
And talking about our suppliers, right, you know, so if
they have natural you know, and we inspect all the
slabs that come in so.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, not only do you inspect them yourself, but you
want somebody who's purchased a slab that wasn't on your
lot to begin with, yeah, yeah, to come out and
look at it before you start to cut that sucker.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And if we if it has a natural fissure in it,
then we'll point it out to them and say, hey,
look this either could go into the project this section
right here, or we could work around this section.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
So we go.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We know exactly what this lab is whenever we get
it in, so we look it over real good. And
if if we tell you say, hey, look this might
have a problem, you know, that might come apart while
we're cutting it, we'll put it right back together, you know.
We'll put it back well, you know, just like we
would a seam or whatever. We just seem it right
back together.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Sure, all right, So we're in a day for now.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, we're about four to six weeks. So if you
need something, come on in. We'll put you on the schedule,
and you know, if I get it done sooner. As
a matter of fact, I think I have a couple
of spots left in three week range right now that
I've already done that, I have time to push up
people in the schedule. Some people aren't in a real
hurry and some people are, so I kind of leave

(15:24):
that in the schedule for fluff.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Probably two weeks.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I could get one in for a good buddy of
mine or somebody on a radio show that talks to me, say,
Gary sent you.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Marks putting the big push on me here. I've been
I've been looking. I've been thinking again, Oh I love it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Let's go fortunately for me. I mean, once I come
to that decision, I have to think about where am
I going to get it? And neither do you, because hey, listen, Marcus,
this is all you guys do, right.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, so we're good at it. Matter of fact, we
just won Lexen's US number one.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, and for five straight years you were the state
newspapers yeah one, yeah, and for very good reason. Yeah,
so you're gonna be uh today.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'm gonna be in Chapin Chap one fifty three Chapin Road,
and uh, my brother David will be at Pine Grove
at forty twenty call it Piney Grove forty Dina.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Road right by Costco Starbucks.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
All that you can get you a cup of coffee
Greens and get your bottle of liquor, and get get
a tool across the street at Northern Tool.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your set sounds like a Saturday plan.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Hey, if you come out to see me, you can
go to the hot Dog catch your chicken or higher
ground to eat some hamburgers, hot dogs and uh whatever
else I said.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Chicken today mark because see me.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Good to see you, a Boddy always man.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Thank y'all.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
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(17:14):
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Speaker 1 (17:25):
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Speaker 5 (17:27):
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We are back on the Home Improvement Show of the
Midlands on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AMWVOC. Anywhere around the world you are on the
free iHeartRadio app. Let's talk a little plumbing now. He
is the owner of Freedom Plumbing. He's James Carwell. He
joins us this morning.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Good morning, James, Good morning Gary. How you doing.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm doing well, man, I hope you are too. We
want to talk about stoppages this morning, all sorts of
a big part of your business. How many how many
times you called out on a weekly basis because something stuck?

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Some quite a few actually make it be as small
as you know, lavatory blockage which is typically right in
the pop up assembly and that's the part that you
know you stop to sink up to fill the bowl
up with water. Usually it's right there. We do have
some cases where it's further down the line on older systems.

(19:21):
You know, it could be anything from a garbage disposal
to the whole house backing up. So yeah, they we
get we get called up quite a bit for him.
So and we have equipment to deal with all kinds
of different types of stoffes.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right, so let's start simple here, James, uh, I don't know,
let's start without a garbage disposals.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Yeah, so great devices, you know, put stuff down there,
grind up and send it on down the system. There's
a few things I wouldn't recommend putting down anything starchy, noodles,
things of that nature. Yeah, kind of just you get
ground up and turn into one big glob of noodles

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rather than get chopped up very well, anything soft and
mushy like that has the potential for hitting that little tea.
There's a there's a tea underneath most sinks, unless it's
a single bowl sink, there's a tee that kind of
catches the other side of the sink on a two
ball system. And I guess when people think about that
tea they think of it being as being a wide

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open there's actually a baffle in it which kind of
restricts how much stuff can go from the disposal side
to the drain side, so that the glob of stuff
typically gets caught right in there at the tee. And
what you'll have is the disposal side won't drain, but
your other sink will and that typically means that the

(20:45):
stop is right there, or that always means the stoppage
is right there underneath at that tea.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Most of the time that makes sense. Never really thought
about that, so nothing.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
If both thinks are stopping up, then we know we
have a issue. Hopefully at that point it's at the
pea trap, which is still underneath your cabinet. But if
it's past that pea trap, that's that's the point where
we get to break out the machine and and run
the cable down the drain line to try to get
that that line.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Unstopped right, all right, So nothing starching in a garbage
supposed Well, what else should you not be putting down
that thing?

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Well, I went to call the other day where some
chicken got put down the drain. That's you know, cook chicken.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Well, that's just a crime to begin with. We have
a chicken shortage in this country. We should not be
putting I mean, come on for crying out loud.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
But right anyway, Yeah, and again what it did is
just shredded it up and kind of turned it into
one big mushy glob of chopped up chicken and it
it luckily got caught right in the pea trap, which
we can just take a part underneath the cabinet and
clean it out and put it back together and test
everything out and make sure it's flowing properly. So yeah, potatoes,

(22:00):
state appeals, stuff like that. And if you have an
older system, I would be careful with quite a bit
of things. Actually on older systems. Let's see, you have
galvanized drain line. It starts to rust from the inside
and crow from the inside, and that line can close
down almost like a bad artery, is I guess the

(22:21):
best way to describe it. And you start introducing more
than just water, which I mean you're going to get
some stuff down your kitchen sink is just gonna happen. Yeah,
But when you start shoving plate full of food and
the disposal to try to get rid of them, that
could potentially create an issue as well. I typically recommend

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just scrape it off into the trash or you're compost
and you know, wash the plate off initially on the
garbage disposal side and run that to break up any
large particles that might have still gotten into the sink.
Other than that, I wouldn't recommend putting a lot of
leftovers down in there.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was going to ask you that because most plumbers agree, right,
if the garbage disposal you probably really shouldn't use if
you don't have to.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Well, I don't, and a big reason I don't even
have one in my home really because we built on
a site with a subject tank and I just didn't
want to entice myself to use it when I really
don't have to. So we scrape everything off from the
trash can and just rinse the dishes off before we
put them in the dishwasher.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
And those suckers are a pain to replace, at least
for the lay person like me. I've I've replaced one
or two in my day, and that ain't a lot
of fun. Man. The those suckers are heavy. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Plumbing's always in an awkward place too. It's not usually
in a place that's very accessible under syncs and under
cabinets and stuff like that, or interesting places to contort
and get inside of.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't know how y'all do that, man, I really don't.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Oh my goodness, get used to it after a while.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
While we're talking about garbage disposals, what's the interconnection here
between Okay, you got a two sink unit. We talked
about that that tea right there, But what's how does
this all work when you now you're talking about a
dishwasher involved, because it all drains the same place, right.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Typically, Yes, sir, the the dishwasher usually drains into the
side of the garbage disposal, So there's a there's a
little fitting. It's got a plug initially inside of it.
So if the customer does not have a dishwasher, that
means that that that plug remains in there so you
don't get any water coming out under your sink. If

(24:35):
they do have a dishwasher, we knocked a plug out
with a screwdriver and remove it from the unit and
then attach the drain of the dishwasher to the garbage dispussal.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
So what's going on where you know, it's been a
long time. We actually have a dishwasher. We almost never
use we do no, we I take that back, we
do me. Uh, but it seems like I recall every
now and then something will back up into the dish washer.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, So there's always the potential for if if you
have a sink stoppage because of that connection between your
garbage disposal and the drain of the dishwasher, you can
get water from the kitchen sink backing up into the dishwasher.
That's that's the possibility. Okay, that just happens when your
sink can't drain the whole. You know, if you allow

(25:25):
the sink to fill up high enough, it could potentially
spill over into the dishwashers through that connection.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Gotcha. Now, if you if you have put something down
that garbage disposal and you back things up, I mean
it is without having to you know, call you to
come out. I mean, is there anything you can do
as the as the homeowner.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
If you feel comfortable with removing the undersink piping, which
is called tubular piping, and it's typically done with compression nuts,
then yeah, you can remove that piping starting at that
at that pe trap and then the t and kind
of work your way through the system. See if the
clog is underneath the synk, if it's further than that,

(26:06):
you know, again depends on how handy you're feeling. If
you want to go try to get your hands on
some equipment to run down the drain line, that's always
a possibility as well.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Okay, I might could do that, but you know, my rule.
If I'm here, Hey, listen, I'll play around to a
degree with electrical stuff. Maybe not a good idea, but
I ain't touching plumbing. Man. She makes half a big
old mess in her in a hurry and ruin a
lot of stuff. So I just kind of stay away
from mass. But I just called James Carlot freedom plumbing

(26:36):
whenever I had that, all right, grease? Yeah, So is
there any truth to the fact that if you run
hot water down the drain then you're okay to put
a little bit of grease in there? Or should you
never do that? Period?

Speaker 6 (26:57):
I'm not big on putting grease down any kind of drain,
to be honest with you. Hot water, cold water, Yeah,
it doesn't. I mean there's a couple of different theories.
One being used cold water helps solidify the grease quickly
and helps go down the draining chunks. If you use
hot water and that grease remains liquefied as it travels

(27:21):
down the drain, let's just say some settles and doesn't
make it all the way out, and you're gonna have
a dried puddle of grease at some point. So yeah,
I'd just rather not introduce grease into the drain system
at all. Of if avoile, you're gonna get some down
there off a plate, you're gonna get grease down the train.

(27:43):
So definitely good idea to run the line for a
little bit, allow that to make it all the way
through the system. But yeah, Greece is one of the
harder things to get out as far as when there
is a stoppage. So what typically happens is your cable
will run through the grease blockage, make it through the
other side, and then as you're pulling the cable back,

(28:04):
it just kind of closes back in on itself. There's
been cases where I've had to run a kitchen sink
drain ten times before the line drain, just because you're
only getting very little bits out at a time as
you go through that grease blockage and you have to
continually run it back and forth. You can always tell

(28:24):
when you pull the cable back and then you've got
a grease blockage. It's typically all over the cable. Once
you pull it out.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Oh yeah, let's get out of the kitch. You get
in the bathroom. A couple of opportunities here for blockages.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Yeah, So again the lavatory sink will being one of
the most common that we find. And usually what happens
is there's a lot of build up in the initial
part of your drain, which is the pop up assembly.
There's a rod you know, that you can typically pull
up behind the faucet that makes the pop up drop

(29:03):
down and stop the sink up so you can fill
it up with water. Well, the rod that's used to
raise and lower that pop up typically tends to catch
things as it goes down the drain, hair being the
biggest one that it catches. But then you also get
that build up right there, of course, toothpaste, all kinds
of stuff, face washed and soaps, and you just start

(29:26):
getting built up right right there underneath where the sink
the stopper is. And the easiest way that that I've
taken care of those, even on my own sinks, is
just by using one of those small little handheld devices
that you can get from your box storey one that's
called the drain weasel.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
They're very good. Yeah, I'd use it a lot.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah, And that's the easiest way to get you know,
to see if if that's what's going to back up.
Of course, you've got two sinks you know, like a
double lavatory in that bathroom. If you're only having issues
with one, again, more likely you're dealing with the stoppage
right underneath that pop up stopper. So easiest way to
do that, I think they're like four dollars at your

(30:13):
local box store. You know, give that a shot before
you know you spend the money to get a plumber out.
That's always the easiest route to take. What about could
save you some money?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
What about the you know, I want to mention names here,
but you know, the liquids that are supposed to bust
that stuff up. Do they work? Yes?

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Some of them are pretty good with you know, breaking
down bio it aggredibles. We we carry a product called
Thrift and it does a good job. It's supposed to
be a non toxic type of drain cleaner and it's
activated by warm water. So basically what you do is,
if if you don't have any drainage at all, the liquids,

(30:55):
the you know, the dissolvable drain cleaners really not going
to help you much because you've got to be able
to get that product to where the blockage is. So
if you just absolutely have no drainage or very little
at all. This products really aren't going to help you.
You're gonna need something mechanical to remove that blockage.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
So I mean we've all used those things all the time.
Of course, if you have you got a slow drain, okay,
but if it's if water's is not going anywhere, you're
gonna need to do something other than that then.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
In other words, yeah, because you could be creating more issues,
especially for your plumber if they come out and you've
got to sink full of drain over whatever product you
put down there. You know, those those are pretty corrossive
materials or crossive products. And I've gotten some splashback from
removing fee traps and stuff like that underneath sinks where

(31:45):
product like that has been used, and you know can
definitely uh cause some irritation and almost I guess chemical burns.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Maybe I won't stay with Matt. Got about two minutes
left here, James, for we're out of time. But you've
mentioned at the onset of the segment full house stoppages.
Now that sounds bad.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
So yeah, typically when you're dealing with the whole house stoppage,
my recommendation would be the first off, called the municipality
that you pay your sewer bill to have them come
out and determine whether it's on their end of the
system and they have to take care of it at
no cost to you, or if it's on your end
of the system. And at that point, I would recommend
calling a plumber nine times out of ten, if not more,

(32:33):
you're dealing with the roots situation. If the stoppage is
outside of the home. That's the number one thing we
run into is roots getting into the train lines. They're
using this thinin wall PVC drain line pipe to go
from the house to your city tap, and that typically
just kind of goes into that pipe. It's not very
structurally sound.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Why not? Do you think they'd have thought about that
ahead of time?

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yeah, that's all schedule forty PBC. I'm not sure why
they allow the thin wall to be used outdoors. They
required the thick stuff to be used under the house,
But as soon as you leave the house you can
use a thin wall pipe. And I mean, honestly, doesn't
make much sense because that's where you're gonna encounter most
of your issues.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Okay, you're right, it makes absolutely no sense at all.
And of course you'll know if you gotta gotta got
a whole house stoppage because things are backing up everywhere.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
I guess, huh, that's right. You'll typically get You'll notice
in the toilet's gurgling, bubbling, the lower fixtures, toilet, showers, tubs.
You make flush toilet and it come up in your tub.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Not a good day, no, especially if you're in the
tub and somebody else flushes.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man.

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Speaker 1 (37:35):
Hey, there's the Russell Marcesy from Finishing Touch Team. Hey Rusk,
good morning, sir, Hey Gary, good morning. Glad to be here.
So I have to admit to everybody my bonehead of mistake.
The other day I was even talking about this on
the air Friday, the last Friday morning. I was so
pumped up because your folks were coming out and painting
our poolhouse all right, and I said, yeah, come out

(37:58):
this weekend. When I got up Saturday morning and I
looked at your text again, you had said, yeah, I
thought about it over the weekend and let's do this.
You didn't say you were coming out this week like, oh,
I'm an idiot.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
Good.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
But there was a very good reason for that. There is,
and it was what I just mentioned that part.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
That's correct. Yeah, the polin's horrible right now. I wouldn't
say it's the heaviest that you know, we've seen in
the past year, worse, more like that's right, that's right.
But yeah, right now is the absolute worst time in
the world in South Carolina to paint an exterior. All
this pom floating around it is not good.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know.

Speaker 9 (38:38):
First of all, the biggest, biggest reason why you don't
want to do this, Gary is because if all that
polm is floating around in the air and you're painting
something on the exterior and you have wet paint sitting
on your siding or wood trim or whatever it is,
all that pollen is sticking right to it. Okay, how
many times have you seen where you can see the
sunlight kind of shining through and you can.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
See all that pollen in the air, right, floating all around.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
Right, Yes, so, uh, what it does is it sticks
to the paint and it's a sticky pollen. Sticky is
what it is, all right, So it sticks to just
about anything, especially what paint, and it doesn't allow your
paint to adhere correctly.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Is the issue.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I don't know why I did even think about this,
because we've had discussions about when you do the cabinets.
Oh yeah, for the very same reason you you take
them back to your place. That's right, in a sterile
like environment. Yes, the dust of the debris because if
you don't, that winds up. It does on the on
the paint, it does, and it is there forever. That's correct. Again,
that's correct. Yeah, I'm going to just guess here, Russ

(39:39):
sure that there are probably some other painters out there saying,
oh yeah, we'll come out and do it.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
Well, of course, you know what. They don't want to
miss up, miss out on something like that. But we
have to be transparent with our customers. Look, our you know,
our name is on this and that's all we have, Gary, right,
and we got to make sure that the longevity is
there and the quality is there and you're not going
to get that doing any sort of outside painting right now. Okay,

(40:05):
you know, the paint's got adhere to the substrate, right
to the siding whatever you're doing, and uh, it creates
a lot of other funky things too. A lot of
people think that pollen this is kind of a little
bit of a misconception, but not totally. They think that
it'll cause mold in the future. Okay, And the pollen
itself doesn't cause mold, but pollen is a is a

(40:27):
a food for mold to to breed off of. Okay, okay, correct,
So therefore you know you can potentially get more mold
than you would have because of that very reason right there.
Not to mention the paint not adhering to it just
not a good, not a good situation, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I we do. We go through this almost every single
year where there's.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
About a good, you know, good month or so where
we just really can't do a whole lot outside. Once
it starts easing up, we'll start scheduling it again and
getting back out there and getting and hitting the exteriors.
But I can't tell you how many conversations I have
yearly with customers, Uh, maybe not fully understanding it, or
a lot of times you get somebody that is new

(41:08):
to this area that hasn't quite experienced it yet. Well,
you know, so you're you're you're educating them on this
as well. And uh, you know, it's just nature, the beast, uh,
the area and where we live, and you know, you
got to you gotta navigate it the way you can.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
The rest of the story, by the way, sure is
just to see all are aware of this. Originally my
plan because I went out there and I went out
and looked at that poolhouse. I thought, yeah, we can
paint that. Yeah, and then I looked and there's a
it's it's not a too story deal, but it's it's awkward.
It is tall. In order to get to the front

(41:45):
at the top, I'd have to get up on this
kind of small overhanging roof.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
It is.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's only about three and a half foot area.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
And I thought, you know what, I'm just this is
probably a bad idea for somebody of my advanced age.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
You know, it's a little tricky.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, So my first thought was, well, let me call
Russ and by the way, just so you know, because
like I always say, you know, actually I think I
texted you and it was maybe an hour later if that,
that you texted me back. Because this is what you do.
It wasn't because you knew me that you texted me
right back. This is the way you do business. You're

(42:25):
not going to wait around to hear back from this
guy right here. But so my original idea was, Okay, hey,
can you guys just just paint the top of this
for me and I'll take care of the bottom. And
then I started thinking about it. Now, wait a minute,
I'm going to wind up with a poolhouse with a top,

(42:47):
with a bottom that looks good, but with the top
that looked spectacular for how long? For how long until
you can get to that? Yeah? And you know it
because between a DIY and you know, my wife's a
very good painter.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh, I've offered her a job a few times.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, but it is you know what you guys do
are finishinga O. Yeah, it's just above and beyond man.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Yeah, man, you know, Gary and I I kind of
knew going into it, uh, just because I've i've you know,
had this circumstance so many times, right, but especially after
looking at it for what it what it would take
for us just to bring those sides down, right, the
rest of it is really nothing, right, so I you know,
I I kind of figured on that a little bit,

(43:34):
but uh, for the amount of time that it takes
us to just bring those sides down. And we were
talking about a pool shed, right, it's I think it
was what maybe twenty five by twelve or something like that,
thirty or yeah, really cool poolhouse by the way, though,
it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yes, yeah, pulled outside in a pool table inside I'll
tell you what's like a double full house.

Speaker 9 (43:52):
Yeah, that's a that's a future man cave I can
see in the future possibly right, or future doghouse there
one are the other you know, hopefully not the latter,
but you know, but now we'll yeah, we'll get that
thing looking real good. Gary, it's you know it And
again we got you know, we gotta wait, right, we
gotta wait till this pollen's gone, till uh till it's clear.

(44:12):
And uh, because I have I have definitely seen evidence
of areas being painted, you know, when when there's been
pollen like that. And and I'll tell you sometimes it
doesn't take long at all. A couple two three months
you'll start to see peeling and popping. That is way premature, absolutely,
and it's it's just a bigger mess at that point, right,
You're causing more work, more labor, and you know that

(44:35):
equates to more money down the road.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Now, there's also stuff you're starting to see now. And
and you've got something else, uh, something we've not talked
about before, right, Uh, that you're that you're you're looking
at here, and and that is I mean, it's just
aboard times, Russ. You know, people are are throwing up
homes these days. They are, and they're cheap if you're

(45:00):
just doing a quick spray job on the exterior of
a home, correct, And it's causing problems.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It is, it is.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
I can't tell you how many neighborhoods we drive through,
large neighborhoods. You know, two three, four hundred homes in
these neighborhoods that all have hardyboard siding on them, right,
which is a great siding, fantastic, It's a simittatious you know,
substrate siding.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Right.

Speaker 9 (45:20):
It lasts forever, not wood vinyl, correct, you know, it's
it's fantastic, holds up forever. But the issue is is
that they're painting these things with very very cheap exterior paints.
In some cases I've seen where they're using interior paints to.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Save your money. Oh yeah, yeah, we've seen it all.

Speaker 9 (45:38):
And what you do is so when you're driving through
these neighborhoods, you see how faded it is. Okay, that's
your telltale sign, right there, is how quickly they fade.
So yeah, we're trying to put together a little marketing
campaign for exterior heart hardyboard siding homes like this. Okay,
we're offering fifteen percent off all the way through July

(45:59):
for exterior painting. Obviously, we're gearing up for that while
the pollen is almost in you know, full height here
is when as soon as it settles down, you know,
we want to hit these exteriors pretty hard. So yeah,
so we're offering fifteen percent off any exterior as well
as continuing for our interior cabinetry, right right, Yeah, we're

(46:19):
still we're still offering that promotion as well for cabinetry.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
And yeah, we haven't talked about that. We've talked about
it back over the Brown Christmas, I know. Yeah, yeah,
that's touched down a little bit. Yeah, still going on,
absolutely sad of what that is now.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So fifteen percent off of your your
any cabinetry, vanities, kitchen, islands, whatever the case is.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Right, we we probably.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Do at least probably already like like ninety percent off
of what it would cost to actually replace.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Oh, it's a fraction of the cost. Scary fraction of
the costs.

Speaker 9 (46:51):
A matter of fact, I was talking to one of
my cabinet buddies last week actually just to kind of
see where where the pricing was with cabinetry right now.
I've been stating some amounts and I wanted to be correct,
but I was wrong. Actually it was actually more than
I even thought it was.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Really not grant.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
You can get some you know, cheaper cabinets for you know,
fifteen to twenty thousand dollars somewhere in that range. But man,
he's putting cabinets in Gary that are you know, forty
fifty thousand dollars sometimes in these kitchens, Okay, And you
know for a fraction of the cost, you can paint
these things.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You can do.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
The sky's the limit. If there are bare bone cabinets,
you can add trim to them, crown molding panels, any
the sky's the limit, right, and beef your cabinets up
for a fraction of the cost, and we are offering
fifteen percent off of all that. Yeah, off of fraction. Yeah,
it's a heck of a deal, it really is. And
they look fantastic, spectacular, Omredonald. They really do something we're

(47:45):
very proud of as well.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You should be. I mean, those ults are fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
They are, they really are.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
They just are. Yeah. Just curious now when it comes
to because I know, I know your process for painting interiors,
right the process for the exterior is that different in anyway?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Or yeah? All the time?

Speaker 9 (48:04):
Yeah, yeah, So it's all about the prep work no
matter what, right, your your finish product is only as
good as a substrate that you put it on. Okay,
that's that's the name of the game in this industry.
So the prep has got to be there. So, yeah,
we're still sanding down whatever we're painting. Okay, Uh, we're calking,
we're filling, we're using Bondo products to fix. Let's see,

(48:26):
you have a little tiny little soft area on some wood,
but it's not quite worth ripping all that down and
replacing it just yet.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Right, we can.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
Come in with some bondo filler repair those areas, and
quite honestly, those are those areas that we repaired probably
last longer than the house would. I mean, it's a
it's an actual hard bondo finish on there, right, and
you can never see it again. It completely goes away.
But we go through all the uh, you know, normal procedures.
If there's any bear wood, for example, you have to

(48:55):
prime that bear would with a really good I prefer
an oil based exterior primer, okay, to ensure that those
areas are never gonna pop again. All right, So we
we go through our due diligence. One of making sure
any metal areas, like let's say a set of rallings
on the front of your house that have rust all
over them, Okay, you can't just sand those down and

(49:16):
put pain over it. You just can't, because that russ
is gonna come through. So we'll prime those areas with
a product called kem Chromik, which is a fantastic metal primer.
You're just getting a whole lot longer out of your
paint shop doing it this way, and we go through
every step to ensure that that you're getting.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
That So it's it's not just painting. But it's not
just be as you touch, Team delivers, it's the whole
nine yards. So that's right, Russ. How to folks get
a hold of your finish? You touch Team my friend, Yeah,
you can always get me a call it. Eight oh
three four sixty seven six seven five nine. All right,
Good to see you man, Good to see you, Gary,
Thank you.

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