Home Improvement Show 05-17-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Good morning and welcome time again my friends. It's the
Home Improvement Show of the Midlands on one three point
five FMN five sixty AMWVOC. How are you on this
Saturday morning. We so much appreciate you joining us here
and we got a lot of great information to pass along.
By the way, if I haven't produced myself, my name
is Gary David James Carwell, the owner of Freedom Plumber,
is going to drop by and say hi. A little

(00:34):
bit later on we'll talk to us summer over at
Beaver rufig and Gutters. First up, getting the show roll
this morning, Marcus Greenwell, Lifetime Cabinets and Countertops.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Good morning to you, sir, Good morning out here.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
And knowing the pressure you had today to perform as
the leadoff the leadoff hitter here on the you needed
to bring in a heavy hitter to take care of that,
that's all right, pressure.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Off of my being I bestie Angela Cash Hangelo.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Good How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm got I should have mentioned this forore hand. Take
that microphone and pulled it right over there, right up
in your grill, right there there you go. Yeah, my group,
right there there you have it. And I just mentioned
before you came on there. Suddenly I'm seeing your I'm
seeing your billboards all over town.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I'm trying to trying to get out there, getting some
listings and trying to get my face out there. I'd
love to hear that people see my billboards.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, Now you're you do residential, but your specialty is.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Commercial commercial, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, So now how do you guys work together?
I meancause, Well, I guess that's a stupid question. I mean,
you do countertops, you do, not just residential stuff, but
you work in commercial space.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
We do, and she she throws farms jobs to me
all the time or refers people to us.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's a great referral partner. Well. Also in the B
and I group together as well, so that's we get
to have lunch together every week as well.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, which, by the way, if you're in a small
business around here, you're not in a B and I group.
But it's a terrific thing.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh yeah, a lot a lot of leads generated and such,
so I know a lot of small business owners lives
in the station on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
And I really got me going when I came out
of the gate. I got so many connections through BE
and I and that's really how I took off.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, let's talk about because this is an interesting time,
needless to say. Yeah, and it has been though for
a number of years. I know, back you know, during
the whole COVID thing, nobody's going into offices and such.
Has the commercial market Angela's it recovered from that?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, it definitely has.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I mean as far as like your retail office spaces,
you know, businesses are coming back, they're no longer not
a lot of offices are no longer working from home.
They want you to come back in the business. But
a lot of the demand is for warehouse flex space.
That's where that's where a lot of it is. You know,
with e trade commerce businesses come in things like that such,

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that's where the that's where a lot of the bulk
of our business comes from.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's interesting because you know, on the on our second
show of the morning, on the Health and Wellness Show,
we even talked to the the guys over preservation specialists
and that's about investments and retirements and such, and that's
a big they bring that up a lot when we
talk about investing in real estate, not in you know,
maybe the traditional things, but yeah, the warehouses.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And yep and all that.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I mean, yeah, because he can have a show run
there that's exactly right, and also be able to ship
out stuff out of the bay. Yep.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
We got, of course the big Amazon warehouse here in town.
I think they're building another one of Florence. I think, wow.
But you drive down the interstate, you see all these big,
huge I mean, these are huge places.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, and I want my billboard right in front.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Of those huge places. That's right. Listen up, bill people
into the casts product placement.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
See there's somebody calling right now. Yeah, yes, I want
to buy a warehouse. They want to talk to you. Angela.
There you have it. How much? I'm just out of
curiosity since you say you do both. I suspect that
selling commercial real estate requires a whole lot more patients
than selling residential real estate.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yes, commercial is far different than residential. I mean, there's
so many different things that you've got to look into.
You know, you got zonings, you got permitting permits, environmental issues.
There's so much more that goes into commercial than residential
and it does.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
It takes it takes a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
You know, where if you have a residential property, that
may sit on the market thirty five forty five days,
but if you have commercial property, they may sit six
months to a year. And that's that's where people, you know,
they don't realize that and you don't get a quick
turnaround time as far as getting paid and such like that.
So yeah, it's it's it's a lot, but I love it.

(05:05):
I love it. And and commercial realators there's not many
female commercial realators. There's only there's only about four percent
commercial female agent here in the Midlands area. So I
have I have, you know, I love that. I love
I love going out and seeing people what they say,
you know, oh my gosh, you do commercial real estate.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
And I'm like, heck, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Fascinating you know. And while you were saying that, I
don't know. I'm not asking you for an answer on this, okay,
but do me a solid here, will Yeah, because I'm
just so curious. Yeah, there's a property in the town
of Lexington on Highway three seventy eight across from sachs
gootha church and it used to be a gas gas station.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And I sat there empty for I've been it's been
fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Right, Yeah, I do not know what is going there.
It is like some big old secret of what's going there.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, it's probably to dig up those tanks and probably
cost a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, that's where the environmental is.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, So these are storts things are.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Run into, right, exactly right.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, Okay, it's not somebody wants
too much money for this property, because if that was
the case, they lost money twelve years ago by now
selling it then.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
But these are the sorts of those are the things
that you run into.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean they you know, they
had gas tanks there, so they that's where the environmental
comes in and they have to take out. They have
to test the soil make sure, you know, that's safe
for a new business to come in there. And then
you also have the ingresses and negresses of getting in
and out of the building or the parking lots.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
So that's always a thing. I mean, it's just there's a.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Lot of.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, getting on seventy eight Yeah, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Now, I don't know what what what? What's your your outlook? Again,
As you mentioned, people are coming back to the office
as far as that's concerned, but retail and such, I mean,
what are the trends that you've seen, you know, in
the last to say, twelve months, and what do you anticipate.
Are we looking at more properties going on the market?

(07:10):
Is it was? Were the prices depressed there for a
while or they have they bounced back?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, they they've definitely bounced back. We're growing again. South
Carolina is growing, so there's there's nothing but going up.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Good. Yeah, yeah, we are. I've seen it as well
with the countercrops because you do commercial work too. Yeah,
oh yeah, definitely, I've seen it a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
But you know, we keep hearing, at least from a
from a residential standpoint, the people are coming here like crazy,
and we know that's true. They're coming in like crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I mean, every time one of these moving companies doesn't survey,
we're like either number one or number two, you know,
on top of the list people coming to our state.
Now we're also seeing that from the commercial sector as well.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Ye uh.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And these are the focus on big business. You know,
and now we're talking these you know, data warehouses and
all this stuff for AI and the the well coming
along with that is the the additional energy consumption those
big you know, data warehouses are sucking up and that's
a that's a bone of contention, and there's a lot

(08:29):
of you know, talking to the state House about Okay,
we've got to we gotta do something here to to
create more energy. We're gonna run out stuff here in
one of these days. And then we got a real problem.
The does it look does it feel like on the
commercial side that the rate of growth here in our
state is is keeping up with the rate of growth
on the residential side as far as incoming.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Traffic, Yes, yes, it definitely does. I'm not from South
Carolina originally. I'm original originally from upstate New York. Group
on a farm and I came here here have farms
in New York. Yeah, I melt cows my whole life.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
But I will always have moved. I've traveled a bit
over the years, and you know, you say New York
to somebody, they they think New York City.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
They all think of the city.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's beautiful state.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Oh yeah, especially upstate you know, you get beautiful, beautiful
land there. But I'm when I left New York, you know,
I just googled the best state to live in, and
it gave me five five different states to live in.
But then you know, I narrowed it down to like economy, schooling, uh,
things like that, and it came up South Carolina. And

(09:38):
I tell you, totally different world. It's totally different.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
South Carolina is one of the better places I've ever
been to. And and we have nothing but continued growth here,
so very very and good people and good people, especially
the counter top people.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah anything his name right now?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
What is his name?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Angela Cash commercial realtor. Wasn't Caldwell banker, right, that's right? Yeah,
good to mention that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Got to mention that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Your billboards around there?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You go, So Marcus, you uh, I get when you
deal with commercial properties, I mean, how much how different
is that from dealing with residential with homes.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's pretty you're doing the same thing. But yeah, it's
easy to every all of them. I mean, my life
is blessed, so I'm you know, I'm always like on vacation,
so I just go in measure the same process.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I was.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
The same process though. You know, customer comes in if
they have you know, she refers them to and they
come in and looking to pick out the pieces. We
just did where Capital City Club was. Do y'all know
where that was up in that Uh what's it called?
That big building?

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well no, no.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, no, the one street. What's the big tall building?
The biggest one?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
They changed names so often I can't keep up with.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, that one so that you see over the Capitol
and we just did the big receptions stuff. But they
came in picked out the material same way.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, it's just at a larger scale.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right, But do you have a lot more chefs in
the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
No, it's the same same crew, same everything. No, not you.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I mean as a homeowner, you're going to deal
with mainly the wife.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh yeah, if the husband's smart, yeah, you refer to her.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
But you go to a commercial thing, now you may
have all sorts of decision makers get involved in this
and that.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, there was, there was whenever whenever. I'm laughing because
whenever those folks came in, it was a whole group
of people. It kind of felt like, I tell everybody,
what was what? You know, what is about marble, granite,
courts courtzite. You know, what's moresive, what's more adorable, what's
more heat resistant? You know, scratch resistance, It's all that

(11:57):
and different stuff. So yeah, it does get a little
bit more hairy with that.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh sorry about that. I was like, what I mean
he I did every you all heard that squeak? Sorry,
new headphones, I gotta take them back. No, but the
see now I squeaked into your ear and I lost
my train of thought. I guess where I was going
with I know when Anna and I but the first

(12:23):
time about countops from you because of your selection, it
for just like two hours. I can imagine how long
it would take a group of people to come.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
In there, and yeah, they had to leave and come back.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Well, and a lot of the commercial businesses they know
what they want, like they want standard black or they
want you know, they're not as as as as a homeowner.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Because of the bathrooms and stuff like that. They don't
really they're not real picky about that.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well, I know you guys, but I've involved in some
some really amazing jobs.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, entrance ways for for businesses like Castle Brothers. We
did restaurants, Divina Russo. Yeah, what's called Divina Restaurant? Yeah,
I just say it right, Uh, Buba buddy owns that one.
Brad Spell But Mike dav don't want to leave him
out their partners. He's names. You got to drop them all,

(13:23):
all right.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well you got to get the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I won't tell him. I mentioned him on the
rest on their show. I'm gonna listening to that. Sorry
about that, but yeah, different ones, Uh, Marking o Maine.
What else? A bunch of them? Yeah, all the Carolina
Wings places, every every one of them. George Roberts out

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and chapin Valentine.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Okay, it's only a fifteen minute segment, man, you got it.
At some point.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You got got all right, all up and down Main Street?
How about I got to ask you by it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
At least I didn't snort. I just squeaked in your yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Remnants, I gotta ask you all reminans whore we go here?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah? I've got so many of them, they keep adding up.
I gotta get rid of them so I can't use
them at my house still at true cost, Yes, I've
got tons of them. I have beautiful ones. Like what
happens is we have a piece that we use on
a kitchen, then we'll have enough for a vanity left over.

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And the people, you know, they're not necessarily doing the
vanity all the time in the same color, So I
have a piece left over. So I've got thousands of
pieces out there at one fifty three Chapin Road.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right, Yeah, I mean if you go, if you go
over to Fernandina they can kind of give you an idea,
but yeah, you want to see it. We gotta go
out to.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Check samples we have. You can buy something from Fernandina Road,
A lot of people do, but we have eight to
ten slabs out there, not a whole lot of selection,
but we have a lot of samples that you can
give say oh that's the color I want right there,
and then we can bring the slab in or have
you go look at it at the supplier or however
you know you want to do it. Yeah, so we

(15:13):
love it.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, it's Angela. It's wonderful to meet you.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, thank you, thank you very much. It's very nice
to meet you, and I thank you for having me here.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well backstory here before we came on the air and
said Oh, I don't like to talk them.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I told you, I told you she lied.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, she talked better than me. I don't have
to get her own my shoe. She's gonna have to
do my show for me.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah. I have sweat going down the back of my legs.
Don't think I'm my herbos He did.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Put you in the hot seat, Yeah, you did so, Angela.
Folks in business and the commercial prospects and class residents
for that matter, how do they get a hold of you?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, you can find me.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, hopefully you see my billboards out there, but you
can go to my website. It's Angela Cashproperties dot com,
all of social media.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You just google my name and you'll find me.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Angela Cat, Angela Cash and Marcus we know how to
find you.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's right, uh, right over there by Fernandina Road Greens
liquor store on the corner there on one corner. I'm
on the kick that every week Northern Seol Costco. Go
get you some Costco. Uh what's it called the chicken?
You know, the five dollar chicken. Get some of that.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Hot dog or some gas.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Come on oversea.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Today, my brother will be there and I'm going to
be out in Chafing today, okay, so one fifty three
Chapin Road out past the hot Dog Land and also
between Cash's Chicken and Higher Ground, which I did the
granite in both of those places. There you go, speaking
of commercial.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Checking out right there.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
All right, Our time is up one fifty three Chaping Road.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right, Angela, good to see you nice sometimes, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Have a good weekend, Thank you, sir, y'all too.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
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(17:19):
Fernandina Road in Columbia or Chapin Road in Chapin and
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Speaker 1 (17:27):
They've got it all.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And if you can't.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
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Speaker 8 (17:31):
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for joining us this morning for the home improvement showed
the Midlands on What three point five FM and five
sixty AMWVOC and we now welcome in James Carwell. He
is the owner of Freedom Plumbing and joins us this morning.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Good morning sir, Good morning Gary.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm well, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Brother?

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Doing good about yourself?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I can't complain I could, but nobody cares. Right as
they always say.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
There's plenty of people out there that care.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
They all live in my house. We want to talk
today about something we haven't talked about in a long time,
I don't think, and that is inspections, not not, I
guess not. Not the kind of inspection that that happens
when you know you're you're selling a home or you're
buying a home, and you know, some home inspector comes in.
But we're talking about like a real plumbing inspections from

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a real plumber, right.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Sure, absolutely, you know not every inspection company or inspector
is going to check for certain things, and you know
some things may go overlook that could potentially cost you
in the future after you purchase a home, well you're
purchasing or selling, you.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Know right well, now that you bring that up off
the top of your head, are there because and again,
home inspectors, you know, they're they're jacks of all trades
and maybe some of them are masters of not I
don't know, some are, some are I suppose, but they're not.
They're not certified licensed plumbers. They know, you know, enough

(20:07):
to get by in most cases some more. Again, I'm
not knock home inspectors here, but what are some of
the things that you mentioned that might typically not get
looked at when it comes to a home inspector looking
at plumbing.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
One of the biggest, and I've heard of some companies
doing this, but not many at all, is sewer line inspections.
You know, putting the camera down a sewer line if
there's an available clean out and doing the scope of
the sewer line. I've had customers just purchase houses and

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go in and start using the system and the next
thing you know, they've got roots in their sewer line.
They're backing up, it's flooding their house. You know, all
kinds of things can happen in a situation like that
if it doesn't if it goes unchecked. You know, the
previous homeowner may not have had issues. They may have
had issues and just not mentioned them, but that, you know,

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after purchasing the house, moving in and then that happening
to you and having to replace a sewer line unexpectedly
can really put a damper on that new new home
that you just purchased, or new to you home that
you just purchased.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Right, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna guess that. The equipment, I
don't know, is it expensive? The stuff you got to
use to get a game?

Speaker 7 (21:22):
Those lines of cheap, right, It's not cheap, that's for sure,
and they seem to be getting more expensive as time
goes on, of course. But yeah, we have the camera
that can go down the locator that we can pinpoint,
you know, exact location in the yard, how deep it is,
and provide that video to the customer if they want

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to see the video. What we typically like to do
is have the customer there on site so that way
they can see the screen that we're looking at as
we're going down. And I do that because I have
had customers call me out for issues with their sewer line.
Other companies told them they have roots and all kinds
of stuff. They've been provided pictures, but we go out

(22:08):
there and find absolutely nothing wrong. So my only guess
would be, as they're providing pictures from another job.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Wow, fraud fraudulent, yeah, fraud.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, there's you know, there was one about a
year ago. I didn't that that is exactly the case.
They got information from another company that said their whole
sewer line need to be replaced. I went out there
and scoped it out, and there was absolutely nothing wrong
with their line from the house all the way to
the city tap. So I like to have the customer

(22:38):
there so they can see exactly what I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
How often do you run across something like that, James?

Speaker 7 (22:46):
You know, fortunately not too often, but it does happen.
I wouldn't say it's frequent, but you know, and and
not all of them are fraudulent. Some of them are
just inaccurate. I would say. They may think something's going on,
it's not. They may think there's a you know, root

(23:07):
penetration when when something else is going on, but you know,
it does happen, so that when you're there in person
seeing it happen, it takes all that potential miscommunication away.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
So that's that's.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's one thing inspecting sewer lines that is probably going
to get missed in your typical home inspection and a
and a of buying and selling transaction. What are some
of the other big ones that may not get looked
at here?

Speaker 7 (23:35):
I would say water pressure. I'm not sure if I've
ever seen water pressure on inspection report that they may
do it. I haven't seen that issue come across. We
get a lot of reports sent to us from real
estate agents, the buyer's agents a lot of times and say, hey,
this is what we got back on our report. Can

(23:56):
you come out and give estimates for this? And that
never really noticed anything about water pressure on those typically,
so high water pressure can of course cause issues on
your plumbing system, and that's something that we would check
with the inspection make sure that that water pressure is
below eighty psi and not putting unnecessary pressure on all

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your fixtures, which can cause you know, damage, to pull
up parts, foss of parts, water heaters, things of that nature.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. I recall a couple of years ago in a
home we bought, the water pressure was the s it
was too low and y'all had to come out and
raise it up for us a little bit.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Yeah, and you know that can happen. So these these
things that we're using, these pressure regulators to come pre
set typically from the manufacturer, and let's say your home
has a one hundred PSI and you put in a
regulator that's a preset the forty five PSI. You're going

(24:54):
to notice that because you're going from pretty high pressure
to a bit lower. So we typically like to set
it around sixty five to seventy. That way, you're not
noticing a large decrease in pressure, but you're still getting
under that ADPs I, which is required by code for
your home to protect your plumbing fixtures.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Well, let's let's uh, let's kind of switch gears on
this thing. And so you call somebody like Freedom Plumbing
out to do a plumbing inspection on a home or
or a business for that matter. What sorts of things
are you guys looking for.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
It depends on if you have a crawl space or not.
But typically we'll go onto the crawl space. We're gonna
look at what kind of material you have, the age
of the home to make any kind of recommendations. Check
out the condition of the piping underneath the house. You know,
if it's coppered, you know, does it have the green

(25:51):
corrosion marks on it. That's a you know, a good
sign that lets us know that that copper is near
the end of it's lifespan. Things of that nature. Shut
off owuls make sure all the shut off houls work properly,
or your toilets are flushing and filling properly, water pressure,

(26:13):
anything that we can see in any red flags that
we notice, so we can try to catch that before
it becomes a big issue for you. And that doesn't
have to be a during the sale of the home.
It could just be you know, you want to get people,
especially if you have a crosspace, you want to get
people underneath that cross space multiple times a year to
try to catch anything from happening before it turns into

(26:36):
a big issue.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Sure, sure, okay, so let's go into the house. Check
it out there. Anything else you're looking for underneath the house.
I guess what it is going to be? It right there,
it's it's the water lines.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Right yeah, well, you know, let's see your toilet seals,
where the toilet seals to the drainline, pull back the insulation,
check that out. Make sure there's no water damage around
the base of the toilet on the sub floor. You know,
that would tell us if something's wrong with the wax

(27:08):
ring on the toilet, that the toilet and be pulled
and reset or assessed. Things like that that you know,
not everybody's going to look for. Make sure you know,
all the drain lines have proper slope and aren't backgraded
where this hold water and could potentially cause a blockage,
you know, And then of course check the outside line.

(27:30):
If it has an accessible clean out, then we'd open
the clean out, shoot a camera down there, verify that
your sewers could again, make sure all fixtures inside the
home or functioning properly, shut off valves if you need them,
make sure they actually function and shut off, shut the
water off all the way, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Backing up for a second, a lot of times in
a in a home sale that maybe there's been some
remodeling work done, maybe some flooring work done, and in
a bathroom. I think we've talked about this before. How
often do you run across the situation where, whether it's
a sale or not, somebody's done remodeling in a bathroom
and they've you know, again, a non plumber has removed
the toilet and then put it back and you find

(28:09):
there's an issue with the seal.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah, it happens, you know, I'm just going to say it.
Floor in companies, those installers aren't plumbers and don't really
always know what the proper install procedure is for a toilet.
So your flange is supposed to be sitting on top
of the finished floor. That would be the part toilet

(28:33):
fastens to. The two bolts go in and hold the
toilet to the floor. That the flange also needs to
be secured to the floor so it doesn't move. So
if somebody gets in and replaces a floor and they
raise that floor level a quarter inch a half an
inch and don't adjust the flange to match, then yeah,

(28:55):
you could potentially have seal issues where the flange is
too low to make a proper seal with the toilet.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, somebody comes Yeah, you're gonna have issues there. Yeah,
they just come in and put new flooring over old floor,
and you're gonna have that problem.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Right, correct, And if you don't raise that flange up,
and then what we what you're run into is there's
a void underneath that flange. Now, so now we have
to get material and add it to your floor underneath
the flange in order for it to have something to
sit on, because typically they'll just cut the floor around
the entire flange. Well, if you've got to try to
lift that flange up and make that distance up, you

(29:31):
know that half inch quarter inch whatever it may be,
there's nothing there for it to sit on, so you
have to add some type of material underneath, whether it
be you know, concrete depending on the floor type, or
or some some OSB. You've got to make that space
up and then resecure that flange to the floor, do
a proper install and in some cases, the floor's too

(29:53):
far gone at that point. Unfortunately, there's you know, if
you could take a screwdriver and stick it in the floor,
we're going to have to recommend getting a contractor out
there and addressing the floor before we can actually do
a proper installation on the flange and toilet.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And now you're talking flooring and maybe even sub flooring.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
Huh yeah, you're basically remodeling a remodel. Unfortunately, it happens.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Anything else you're looking for. If you're going to go
in there and do a whole home inspection on a plumbing.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Systems, I mean, really, we're going to look at as
much as we can look at. When you're dealing with
the slab. Of course, there's you're you're limited to what
you have. You can only see the show off house
come out of the wall. There's no underneath the house
to go to so you're outside line the water meter,

(30:49):
we would check the water meter to see if everything
in your house is off. I want to make sure
that the water meter isn't registering any waterflow. Okay, so
you know, that would be an indication of a leak somewhere.
It could be a leak on the main water service
from the mean to the house, or it could be
something that's running very slowly inside the home, like a
toilet that you can't really hear running until you take

(31:11):
the tank off and put your ear up against it.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
You mentioned, though, you know, if you've got if you're
on a concrete slab, there's not much you can do
to look at those lines. Is that the same if
you got lines running in your walls.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
I guess huh yeah. Really hard to tell what's going
on in the walls unfortunately, but hopefully they don't run
the water lines underneath slabs. Typically, what you see nowadays
in slab construction is a water line that runs maybe

(31:43):
into the garage wall, so you have a very small
piece of water line that's underneath the concrete, and the
rest of it is run overhead, either in between two
floors or in the attic and then come down to
your fixtures. That way, you're getting everything out of the concrete.
If you have the leaked Unfortunately you got a little
bit of sheet rock damage, maybe on the ceiling or

(32:04):
the wall. But you don't have to bust a floor up.
You don't have to rip your wood flooring up and
then put a hole in the concrete matt You can
actually just go up into the attic or cut a
ceiling open and make a water line repair, which is
a lot easier than going into a floor concrete floor
and doing it.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So if you're James speaking of James carl Well, he
owns up Freedom Plumbing, If you going into an inspection
of a home, do you do this, and I'm guessing
maybe you do because of your experience. Do you look
at the water lines to things like say that washer machine.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Oh yeah, we're gonna definitely look for that, because that's
a big cause of flooding, is those rubber hoses. You
want to get rid of those. To me, it doesn't
matter how old they are. My recommendation would be replacement.
And you know that's something that a home owner might

(33:03):
be comfortable with, but at least you know at that
point that it should be done. It's it's not that
difficult to replace, you know, your washing machine hoses and
switch them out to the brightest steel supplies because those
hoses have pressure on them always unless you're shutting off
your shut off valves to the washing machine after you know,

(33:25):
after you use it every time, those hoses have constant
pressure on them.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I actually what one of my neighbors actually does do that? Yeah,
because after after every wash cuts cuts those worlds. How
do we do that? We go out of town. But
I don't do it every time we wash clothes, but
there are people who do that.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then going out of town. I
would recommend shipping water off to your house unless you
got somebody coming there that needs to be you know,
needs to do some or you know, if it's summertime
and you got the irrigation system running and unless there's
another valve to shut off that just isolates the house
and you can still have your irrigation ull see graft

(34:03):
and a lot of people have that. Now. Matter of fact,
it's required to have a shut off alve on the
exterior of the home or in a garage somewhere to
isolate the home from Uh. You know from the rest
of the line from the meter to the house your
irrigation system.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So okay, and that's something else home inspectors don't look
at at least in my situation is we just had
our irrigation system in the home we bought last summer,
h totally redone to find out that it did not
have a what's the name we you and I've talked
about it before, backflow regular or something.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
Like that, backflow prevention device. Yeah, basically a dual check valve,
and that have to prevent anything from contaminating the city
water sit.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Whoever our home inspector was didn't bother look at that.
So we actually have one of those added in. This
was more, of course, and that's something I think you've
told us. We go ahead and put me on the
books because next April, you guys got to come out
and check that. Right. I think we just lost James.
Oh my goodness, hang on, let's attempt to reconnect with him. Okay,

(35:10):
we got him back now, all right, James you there, Yes, sir, Okay,
let's see you. I think I was asking you about
Oh yeah, I was. I was asking to put us
on the calendar for next April, because those those systems
have to be checked, those irrigation systems once a year.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Correct correct ye, backflow test backflow.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Test only by a qualified plumber like Freedom Plumbing.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Well, now that one you have to have a specific
license for.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh really so not just any old plumber I can
do it.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
Nope, you gotta have a you have to be back
close certified.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Okay, you guys are backflow certified, right.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Absolutely so I am. I'm the only one here that
that is. I went and did one yesterday, the FOURD course.
You gotta take.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Really, how long does it take to go through that?
That inspection.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Depends on on the condition because typically they're in the ground.
I had been one for a you know, being I
guy of mine guy, my being I group. Yeah, and
it was completely full of sand to the rim of
the meter box. So I had to dig that out
and then spread to stand around the yard. Wow, two

(36:25):
meter box a flat full of sand?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Crazy?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
All right? For plumbing needs of any and all sorts
of Freedom Plumbing, James. How do folks get ahold of you? Guys?

Speaker 7 (36:35):
I they can give us call aight oh three four
four seven zero four seven one, or visit a website
at Freedom Dash Plumbing dot Com.

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Speaker 1 (37:44):
Hi, this is Gary David, You've heard me talk for
years about Anthony John Construction and the wonderful jobs they
do for folks all across the Midlands. When it comes
to roofing and gutting, well it's the same people doing
the job, but the name has changed. That's right now
it's Beaver Roofing and Beaver Gutters. Lee it to Beaver
for all your roofing and gutter needs. The same great
service from the same great folks behind Anthony John Construction,

(38:06):
just with a new name. Eight oh three nine nine
to one roof and Beaverroofing dot com the gutter roofing work.
Leave it to Beaver Beaver Roofing and Beaver Gutters, our

(38:29):
old friend Summer from Beaver Roofing and Gutters.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Summer, Good morning, good morning, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm gonna guess that you're You're
more used to alwise say it, because I talk about
it during the week all the time. But I'm still
that inclination is to say Summer from Anthony John Construction, which.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Is not a lie exactly.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Yes, I still catch myself and they're like when people
call in, I'm like, oh yep, and beaver roofing and gutters.
I apologize, yes, that is us still.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
You've been on with this for years now on the
Home Improving Show of the Middles and we really appreciate that.
And for years, you know, we talked about Anthony John construction,
but we didn't talk a lot about the other things
Anthony John does. We talked about roofing and gutters. So
that portion of your business has now been branded as
Beaver Roofing and Gutters. So I don't know. I guess
we'll talk about some roofs and gutters this.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Morning, right, we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm down, okay, cool, And we talked. I guess a
couple of weeks ago. Heath was on with me and
he's he's the guy in charge of all your gutter stuff.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
That is right.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
And we had Heath out of the house this past
summer and installed those six and seamless gutters. As I
was telling he, it's not like we didn't have gutting
in our house. We had gutters. They were there when
we bought the house and they're probably all the house
was built back in the eighties or whenever it was
the nineties, I guess it was. But the gutters that
y'all put up are a bit different from the gutters

(39:57):
that if your home is you know, fifteen twenty year
years old, or maybe even if you had gutters recently,
your gutters are a little different from the ones that
may be on your house right now. How is that so?

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Like you said, six inch seamless metal gutters are so
before they were a little bit smaller, they were a
five inch gutter. Some may be metal. However, some actually
came in six excuse me ten inch stix of guttering,
so they would seam those together. So with that being said,

(40:30):
when there are themes, there are more opportunities for leaking,
more opportunities for damaging, collapse and that sort of thing
that's just a week a week spot in the in
the guttering system, and more opportunities for failure. So yes,
our gutters are six inch steamless seamless gutters, and they

(40:51):
are metal. Like like you were saying, some could have
been made of like a thick plastic. They don't do
that often anymore, but like you said, if your home
is older, they could be made of plastic. So our
gutters are literally custom fit for your home. When our

(41:11):
guys come out, they have a big gutter machine in
the back of the truck. It's pretty cool to white.
So your gutters start as a flat piece of metal.
Then they process it and they run it through the
machine and it you know, they'll measure, They take all
of their measurements and we actually dial it in and
they know exactly just how long it is. When that

(41:33):
flat metal comes out, it's a K style shaped gutter
and that's what we install, and you know it fit
perfectly for you. They stop the machine, they chop it
right there and bam, it's perfectly made for your home.
Custom fit.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And yeah, you've been telling us for years how much
more water these gutters can move as opposed to a
five inch I get it because you think, now, ok,
so then's bigger. What's the big deal here?

Speaker 6 (41:59):
But I figger is better. No, But like you said,
the inch it is. It's crazy to think. However, from
that five inch to the six inch gutter. The six
inch gutters hold forty percent more volume of water, so
it is able to accept that much more water from

(42:21):
your roof, take it and divert it away from your home.
You know, a lot of times when they are not
adequate enough, they'll fill up, they'll spill over, you know,
if they're five inches, they could spill over the front.
If your gutters are not in great condition, you have
not really maintained those gutters, it could actually spill back

(42:45):
into your home and it will appear to be leak,
but it's not.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
So there is a.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Number of things that could happen when one your gutters
are not large enough, or two when they're not maintained properly.
So you know, that's another thing that you should really
be making making a note of and doing when you're
doing your checklist of monthly or yearly things to do
for your home.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, and you know that was and I knew this
because we talked about it for so long, but you know,
it was earlier that I was past. This past spring,
we had just a heavy downpour one day and I
looked out there and sure enough, there's watering over the
front of gutters. And I gotta tell you then, my
next thought was, okay, boy, I sure hope it's not
running over the back of the gutter too. Uh right,

(43:32):
So yeah, I was, you know, I was a little warreous. Okay,
will you guys come out?

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I hope I gotta pull those old gutters down and
find this damage of the face behind it, because that
can happen.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
It happens a lot. It happens often because you know,
it's just you know, gutters. They they are kind of
like the unsung hero I can if you will of
your home. You know they're there, they're great, they're doing
their job. However, if you forget about them, don't maintain them,
or you know you don't have them, there are so
much damage that could be done. Obviously, we talk a

(44:03):
whole bunch about foundation problems. Yes, that is one thing
that you know, over time it can happen. Your foundation
can become you know, it can settle crack, you know.
And water intrusion that is a large, large problem. However,
like you said, facia soft it. If you have wood
facia or soffit and you're not caring correctly, for one,

(44:26):
the gutter system rate that you do have, or to
the lack of gutters, that wood can become damaged soft
and that's just more ways for water to get in
through there, or to critters, spiders, other insects or even

(44:46):
like uh, squirrels and things of that nature. So it's
just more ways for things that should stay outside to
come inside. So you gotta you gotta take you know,
take cautions. This take time, these little things.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Since you brought this up plain to us. When you
talk about properly maintaining your gotters, what does that evolve?
How do you properly maintain a god system that's already
on your home?

Speaker 7 (45:11):
Sure, so.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
Cleaning them, they need to be cleaned. You know, we
do have a bi annual and then we have an
annual cleaning service. It really depends on your area that
you live in and how much foliage is around and
that sort of thing. You know, you want to make
sure that they're cleaned. If they're clean, the water has
a clearer channel, clear a clear way to get to

(45:34):
those downspouts and away from your home. If they're not clean,
there's a lot of build up that can happen, and
that's when things start going a right over the top
behind the back. So whenever we come out when we
clean these, we're actually looking to make sure that we
get all of the goops, all of the gunks, all
of the granules that come off of your roof. Yes,
and you know it's not just things that that are

(45:56):
fallen from the sky. Like I just mentioned things from
your roof. Know, leaves get piled up on your roof,
they go into those gutters, so leaves and granules and
that kind of causes slimmy stuff to acclimate and everything else.
So we're coming out, we're cleaning your gutters. We're making
sure that they're pitched appropriately to make sure that that

(46:17):
water that falls in goes to those down spouts. We're
making sure that at our corners, because yes, at the
corners we do have seen but we're making sure that
they are calked correctly. Everything is water tight when we
come out there to clean and maintain these gutters. So
you want to make sure they're fastened nicely into that

(46:38):
the face and everything is sound and water is going
happily away from the home as.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
It should be.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Right, And you talk about it, if anybody's ever cleaned
out gutters, you know as you talk, that's slime, that
gunky stuff builds up in there, and yeah, it's it's
a nasty, nasty process. But that stuff not only is
a nasty it gets heavy, yes, and if there's a
danger there that even if even in a drought situation,
that stuff gets in there, it gets wet, it gets nasty,

(47:07):
and that weight I guess could could potentially start to
pull that gutter away from the houll.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Away from the home. You're exactly right, So you know,
even in like you said, the cold. You know, yes
we do get some rains and whatnot, but if that
stuff gets nasty cold and then freezes, that's even heavier.
So you know, that's why we like to really urge
homeowners to make sure that they are doing this. You know,
right before the fall or right after you know, you

(47:34):
have all the leaves and stuff falling, cacorn whatnot. That's
you're calling this out there, making sure that your gutters
are cleaned. We clean those out, We get you ready
for the winter because we want to make sure that
everything is nice clean, all of that debris is out
and ready for any you know, water or freezing and whatnot.

(47:55):
They're ready, they're ready to do what they need to
do and protect your home.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
So if you have got to protection, which we opted
to do because we had a lot of trees around
the house, absolutely as heath of your guys.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Know.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So if if you've got gutter protection on there, I mean,
are you out of the woods here or there's still
things you need to be do you still kind of
need to get them checked out every now and make
sure things are honky dory.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
So that's a great question.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
Yes, so we do. We have two types of gutter protection,
gutter guards or covers. There are a lot of different
things that people call those, but yes, we have two
different types and when we install those or suggest those
for you, we often look at the type of foliage
that you have. So one is better for like oak
leaves and acorns and things of that nature. The other

(48:41):
is a mesh and that's really good for pine needles
and smaller things that could possibly get lodged into the
the shurflow which has you know, holes in it. So
you know, we want to make sure that we are
giving our customers the appropriate protection that they need. We
don't want to give them something that's over costly for them,

(49:03):
but we need to make sure that we're evaluating and
give them what they need. So yes, once we have
these covers on, it's really great to come we can
come out, we sweep them off because a lot of
times it will get on top of the gut, on
top of the guards, which is great. It's still doing
it's it's still they're doing the purpose. However, they just

(49:24):
need to be swept off and that doesn't say that
sometimes they don't shift here and there. So we can
always come out and just do a maintenance. That's what
we call our our gutter tune up, our gutter clean out.
That's what we're doing. We're coming making sure that they're
all cleaned off, that the pitch is correct, all the
themes are you know, they're watertight and things of that nature.
So for yes and no, you know, you're not completely

(49:48):
out of the woods because they're still just a little
bit that needs to be done with, you know, routine maintenance.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Now I've noticed too, since y'all put those new gutters
at our home that there looks like there's fewer down
spouts than we had before.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
They look to be bigger, that's correct. So that's another
thing that comes with these larger, the larger gutters that
we install, these six inches. So, yes, the down spouts
are bigger, so they can take more water away than
the smaller down spouts that are installed with the five inch.

(50:21):
So a lot of times that is a concern of
customers and where down spouts are going to be placed,
and I don't want them in front of the columns.
And listen, I totally get it. That was a concern
of mine whenever I got you know, when we were
installing gutters. We don't want to mess up the pretty
aesthetics and that and that sort of thing.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
So we are very careful when we are placing these
down spouts, and we're making sure that it is aesthetically
pleasing when we replacing them. And like you said, we
have we can now offer fewer. We don't need as
many down spouts because these down spouts that we do
install with the six inch are larger.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
So it's you know, the win win for everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Let me ask you this because and I don't know
that typically is something that the customer I think does
after the fact. I don't know if there's I'm sure
there's a name for it. But oftentimes you'll see, and
maybe you've done this at your home. At the bottom
of the down spout, you add a tube onto the
end of to further move that water away from the
base of your home right right. And sometimes you'll see

(51:24):
folks who, boy, it's like they got this twenty thirty.
It's just sitting out in the yard, you know, of
the on top of the yard moving. I mean, how
how far away do you need to get that water moved?

Speaker 6 (51:39):
You know, it really depends on the lay of the
land really, and if you're if you are super super flat,
a lot of times what they will do is we'll
actually we can actually dig into the ground and place
you know that they go from the down spout into
the pipes and when we bury the pipe, Okay, it

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can take it as long as you need to to
get it completely away from your home, you know. So
there are a lot of different things. It does depend
upon the lay of the land. If it can just
be you know, a few things here or there, it
just kind of washes out and goes to to your
the surrounding areas, that's great, just as long as it's
not gonna sit there and pull up against your home,

(52:23):
because that's obviously the reason to get it away from there.
So there are a lot of different things that to
consider when you say how long do they how far
does it need to get away from the home. So
that's something that he, you know, he thinks about. And
obviously when you're living in the home, you know, oh
my gosh, this is this is not working. It's literally

(52:44):
a pool over here. So at that point, you know, hey,
we have a little bit of a different circumstance here.
We need to come up with something creative, something esthetically
pleasing to get this water away from the house right all.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Right, summer, tell us how folks can reach.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
You Call us at eight zero three nine nine one
roof can't forget it. And then we also have our
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Speaker 1 (53:11):
Terrific. All right, summer, Always a pleasure to have yourself
a good weekend.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
You too, Take care.

Speaker 9 (53:19):
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for nearly a decade, I decided to open my own business,
and Freedom Plumbing was born because of my love for
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I named my company Freedom Plumbing. What sets us apart

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