Home Improvement Show 05-31-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Good morning and welcome. It is time again for the
Home Improvement Show of the Midlands on one O three
point five FMN five sixty am WVOC. It is good
to have you with us this morning. Thanks so much.
Be here for the next couple hours. We'll do this
one and then coming up at nine o'clock. Of course,
it is the Health and the Wellness Show, so hope
you will be able to hang with us for the
next few hours and all day long of course here

(00:42):
on WVOC. Hey, by the way, if you ever miss
one of our auditions, you can always catch it on
the free iHeartRadio app to the podcast tab. Just go there,
search for the Home Improvement Show of the Middlands on
WVOC and you'll find it right there all right. Coming
up this hour, we'll be talking to Trey Powler a
mosquit Dok a little bonus segment because mosquito pressure is high,

(01:05):
and we'll talk about how Mosquito Joe can help you
defeat those skeeters. Marcus Greenwell from Lifetime Cabins and Countertops
is gonna be here. We'll be talking to James car Well.
He is the owner of Freedom Plumbing. But we get
things underway this morning on this beautiful Saturday with Summer
from Beaver Roofing and Gutters, who joined us up first
this morning on the Home Improvement Show of the Midlands

(01:25):
and Summer. Good morning, Let's talk a little bit about
gutters this morning, shall we.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
We'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm down, okay, cool, And we talked. I guess a
couple of weeks ago, Heath was on with me and
he's the guy in charge all your gutter stuff, that
is right, And we had Heath out to the house
this past summer and installed those six in seamless gutters.
As I was telling he it's not like we didn't
have gutting in our house. We had gutters. They were

(01:53):
there when we bought the house, and we were probably
all the house was built back in the eighties or
whenever it was the nineties, I guess it was. But
the gutters that y'all put up are a bit different
from the gutters that if your home is, you know,
fifteen twenty years old, or maybe even if you had
gutters recently, your gutters are a little different from the
ones that may be on your house right now. How

(02:13):
is that so?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Like you said, six inch seamless metal gutters are so
before they were a little bit smaller, they were a
five inch gutter. Some may be metal, however, some actually
came in six excuse me, ten inch stick of guttering,
so they would seam those together. So with that being said,

(02:37):
when there are seams, there are more opportunities for leaking,
more opportunities for damaging, collapse and that sort of thing
that's just a week a week spot in the in
the guttering system, and more opportunities for failure. So, yes,
our gutters are six inch steamless, seamless gutters, and they

(02:58):
are metal like like you were saying, some could have
been made of like a thick plastic. They don't do
that often anymore, but like you said, if your home
is older, they could be made of plastic. So our
gutters are literally custom fit for your home. When our

(03:18):
guys come out, they have a big gutter machine in
the back of the truck. It's pretty cool to white.
So your gutters start as a flat piece of metal.
Then they process it and they run it through the
machine and it you know, they'll measure They take all
of their measurements and we actually dial it in and
they know exactly just how long it is when that

(03:40):
flat metal comes out. It's a K style shaped gutter
and that's what we install and you know it fit
perfectly for you. They stop the machine, they chop it
right there and bam, it's perfectly made for your home.
Custom fit.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
And yeah, you've been telling us for years how much
more water these gutters can move as a post a
five inches? I get it because you think, no, I
said an inch bigger, what's the big deal here?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
But I know bigger is better. Yeah, no, but like
you said, the inch, it's it is. It's crazy to think. However,
from that five inch to the six inch gutter. The
six inch gutters hold forty percent more volume of water,
so it is able to accept that much more water

(04:27):
from your roof, take it and divert it away from
your home. You know a lot of times when they
are not adequate enough, they'll fill up, they'll spill over.
You know, if they're five inches, they could spill over
the front. If your gutters are not in great condition,
you have not really maintained those gutters. That could actually

(04:50):
spill back into your home and it will appear to
be bleak, but it's not. So. There is a number
of things that could happen when one your gutters are
not large enough, or two when they're not maintained properly.
So you know, that's another thing that you should really
be making making a note of and doing when you're

(05:13):
doing your checklist of monthly or yearly things to do
for your home.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, and you know that was And I knew this
because we talked about it for so long, but you know,
it was earlier that I was past. This past spring,
we had just a heavy downpour one day and I
looked out there and sure enough, there's watering over the
front of gutters. And I gotta tell you then, my
next thought was, okay, boy, I sure hope it's not
running over the back of the gutter too. Uh right,

(05:39):
So yeah, I was, you know, I was a little warreous. Okay,
will you guys come out?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I hope I gotta pull those old gutters down and
find this damage of the facer behind it, because that
can happen.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It happens a lot. It happens often because you know,
it's just you know, gutters. They they are kind of
like the unsung hero. I can if you will, of
your home. You know they're there. They're great, they're doing
their job. However, if you forget about them, don't maintain them,
or you know you don't have them, there is so
much damage that could be done. Obviously, we talk a

(06:10):
whole bunch about foundation problems. Yes, that is one thing
that you know, over time it can happen. Your foundation
can become you know, it can settle crack, you know,
and water intrusion that is a large, large problem. However,
like you said, facia soft it. If you have wood
facia or soffit and you're not caring correctly, for one,

(06:33):
the gutter system rate that you do have, or to
the lack of gutters, that wood can become damaged soft
and that's just more ways for water to get in
through there or to critters, spiders, other insects or even

(06:53):
like squirrels and things of that nature. So it's just
more ways for things that should stay outside come inside.
So you got to you gotta take you know, tu
take cautions to take time for these little things.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Since you brought this up plain to us. When you
talk about properly maintaining your goters, what does that evolve?
How do you properly maintain a god system that's.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Already on your home, sure, so.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Cleaning them they need to be cleaned. You know, we
we do have a bi annual and then we have
an annual cleaning service. It really depends on your area
that you live in and how much foliage is around
and and that sort of thing. You know, you want
to make sure that they're cleaned. If they're clean, the
water has a clearer channel, clear a clear way to

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get to those downspouts and away from your home. If
they're not clean, there's a lot of build up that
can happen, and that's when things start going a right
over the top behind the back. So whenever we come
out when we clean these we're actually looking to make
sure that we get all of the goops, all of
the gunks, all of the granules that come off of
your roof. Yes, and you know, it's not just things

(08:02):
that that are fallen from the sky like I just
mentioned things from your roof. You know, leaves get piled
up on your roof. They go into those gutters, so
leaves and granules and that kind of causes slimmy stuff
to acclimate and everything else. So we're coming out, we're
cleaning your gutters, We're making sure that they're pitched appropriately

(08:23):
to make sure that that water that falls in goes
to those down spouts. We're making sure that at our corners,
because yes, at the corners we do have seen but
we're making sure that they are calked correctly. Everything is
water tight when we come out there to clean and
maintain these gutters. So you want to make sure they're
fastened nicely into that the face and everything is sound

(08:47):
and water is going happily away from the home as
it should be.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right, And you talk about it, if anybody's ever cleaned
out gutters, you know, as you talk, that's slime, that
gunky stuff builds up in there. And yeah, it's it's
just an a nasty process. But that stuff not only
is it nasty, it gets heavy, Yes, And I guess
there's a danger there that even if even in a
drought situation, that stuff gets in there, it gets wet,

(09:13):
it gets nasty, and that weight, I guess could could
potentially start to pull that gutter away from the houll.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Away from the home. You're exactly right, So you know,
even in like you said, the cold, you know, yes
we do get some rains and whatnot, but if that
stuff gets nasty cold and then freezes that's even heavier.
So you know, that's why we like to really urge
homeowners to make sure that they are doing this. You know,
right before the fall or right after. You know, you

(09:41):
have all the leaves and stuff falling, cacorn whatnot. That's you,
that's you're calling this out there, making sure that your
gutters are cleaned. We clean those out, We get you
ready for the winter because we want to make sure
that everything is nice clean, all of that debris is
out and ready for any you know, water freezing and whatnot.

(10:02):
They're ready, they're ready to do what they need to
do and protect your home.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you have better protection, which we opted to
do because we had a lot of trees around the house,
absolutely as heath of your guys.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Know.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So if you've got gutter protection on there, I mean,
are you out of the woods here or there's still
things you need to be do you still kind of
need to get them checked out every now and make
sure things are honky dory.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So that's a great question. Yes, So we do. We
have two types of gutter protection, gutter guards or covers.
There are a lot of different things that people call those.
But yes, we have two different types and when we
install those or suggest those for you, we often look
at the type of foliage that you have. So one
is better for like oak leaves and acorns and things

(10:46):
of that nature. The other is a mesh and it's
really good for pine needles and smaller things that could
possibly get lodged into the shurflow which has you know,
holes in it. You know, we want to make sure
that we are giving our customers the appropriate protection that
they need. We don't want to give them something that's

(11:08):
over costly for them, but we need to make sure
that we're evaluating and give them what they need. So yes,
once we have these covers on, it's really great to
come up. We can come out. We sweep them off
because a lot of times it will get on top
of the gut, on top of the guards, which is great.
It's still doing it's it's still they're doing the purpose. However,

(11:30):
they just need to be swept off and that doesn't
say that sometimes they don't shift here and there. So
we can always come out and just do a maintenance.
That's what we call our our gutter tune up, our
gutter clean out. That's what we're doing. We're coming making
sure that they're all cleaned off, that the pitch is correct,
all the themes are you know, they're watertight and things
of that nature. So for yes and no, you know,

(11:53):
you're not completely out of the woods because they're still
just a little bit that needs to be done with,
you know, routine maintenance.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now, I've noticed too, since y'all put those new gutters
in our home that there looks like there's fewer down
spouts than we had before. They look to be bigger.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's correct. So that's another thing that comes with these larger,
the larger gutters that we install, these six inches. So yes,
the down spouts are bigger, so they can take more
water away than the smaller down spouts that are installed
with the five inch. So a lot of times that

(12:29):
is a concern of customers and where down spouts are
going to be placed, and I don't want them in
front of the columns and listen, I totally get it.
That was a concern of mine whenever I got you know,
when we were installing gutters. We don't want to mess
up the pretty aesthetics and that sort of thing. I
get it. So we are very careful when we are

(12:50):
placing these down spouts, and we're making sure that it
is aesthetically pleasing when we replacing them. And like you said,
we have we can now offer fewer. We don't eat
as many down spouts because these down spouts that we
do install with the sixth cent are larger.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's Beaver Roofing. You got You got a brand new
phone number and a brand new website. Tell us what
it is.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You got it, so call us at eight zero three
nine nine one roof can't forget it. And then we
also have our new website at Beebeaverroofing dot com.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Terrific. All right, summer, always a pleasure to have yourself
a good.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Weekend, you too, take care.

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(13:52):
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Speaker 1 (14:36):
And we're back on the Home Improvement Show of the Midlands.
It's one O three point five FM and five sixty AMWVOC.
I'm Gary David now joined by Trey Powell. Mosquita Joe.
Where are we right now in mosquito season? I mean
is what's what's the what is the term mosquito pressure?
Is that what y'all talk about? Mosquito pressure? Yeah, for.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
At least a month we have been at extreme, which
would be a ten out of ten on the mosquito chart.
We've had a lot of rain, we've had enough heat.
You know, it's been a little bit up and down
as far as the weather, but we've had plenty of
heat and we've had plenty of rain, and so accu

(15:17):
weather if you go aci weather online, they have a
mosquito forecaster and you can type in your your city
and uh you know the for in Columbia, South Carolina.
We have been at extreme for a month, and so
you know, obviously our phones are ringing off the hook,
and uh yeah, customers are. If you're outside and you're

(15:38):
not spraying yourself down, you're you're probably getting bet.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I have to ask you this and every time
we talk, because you know, because y'all treat our yard
and trust me, we're out there every day. My wife
has been working like she had to take up a
career in lampscaping man between and we finished that. Next up,
of course, is the pool and so again we don't

(16:02):
get bitten by mosquitoes in our backyard thanks to y'all.
So yeah, I have no idea what other people might
be going through right now.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
But the good news jam you quickly forget, you know,
how how it is unless you were to stop, and
then you would find out real quick. But you do
kind of get used to, you know, people like yourself
who love to enjoy the outside.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
They love to sit outside.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And have a drink, or they if they have the
opportunity to have a meal outside, they're instantly going to
go outside to do it. Man, it's great to not
have to have a can of bug spray by every door.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
M Yeah, we did that last time. Gosh it was
last Sunday night. I guess we had some some friends
over and we were three and a half hours sitting
on the back deck. No, not worry about no bites nobody.
That's great, no bites now. All right, So it's obviously
too late for this weekend. But hey, the next big
holiday weekend you know we're here for. You know, well,

(16:58):
we got Father's Day of course next month, but then
we got July fourth, July fourth weekend, so you got
you got time to how much let me ask you
this tray. Once y'all start the service, I mean, how
long does it take to for to really start to
take it, take effect and take hold and get rid
of these mosquitoes.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, in the last few years, we have implemented a
change that has you know, increased that effectiveness when somebody
just gets started, because you know, it's you know, unfortunately
generally people don't call until they're getting eaten alive unless
they're an existing customer, and then you know, we we
get them started, you know, mid February or in March,

(17:37):
and so we're trying to eliminate that problem before it
ever happens. You know, it's just like general pest control.
You don't want to wait until you have a pantry
full of ants to start treating. If you're doing an
ounce of prevention, uh, you know, you'll you'll never have
that problem. And so you know, but you know, the

(17:57):
for a first time customers, they come in and they're like, ah,
we've got this problem. We want to be outside. We've
got Memorial Day, Father's Day, fourth of July. We love
to be outside. We have the garden, we love to
you know, play with the kids, whatever the case might be.
And it's just, you know, spraying yourself down all the
time is just not the best answer. So we will

(18:19):
do an accelerated program to get someone started, which means
we do the first treatment and then we will come
right back within about seven to ten days and do
a second treatment. And what that does is it helps
us to break that breeding cycle. Of the mosquito much faster,
and then after that it's every three weeks. You know,

(18:41):
there's no contract, but will you know, for the rest
of the summer, rest of the year, however long they
want to to go. And so that accelerated program has
really helped us to get control of the yard a
lot faster, you know, so they're not waiting for several
treatments before they're they're really getting to where they want

(19:01):
to be. Because you know, if you just if you're
starting this late, you know, and you just you know,
you're not coming out, you don't come out, you know,
twice early. You know, the first time you might see
a seventy five percent reduction, and then you'll see after
the second treatment maybe an eighty five percent reduction. And
then it's really after the third treatment, which is you know,

(19:23):
what going to be sixty days a couple of months
before you're at ninety five percent plus. You want to
be there very quickly, and we can get somebody there
very quickly by doing that accelerated program.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And I should, for context purposes, I should point this
out too that the backyard that we now enjoy, we've
we just moved into this house back It was late
last August, towards the first part of September, and you know,
as as home buyers. It was actually a house that
was right in the same neighborhood we were living in already,
so it was easy for us to pop over there

(19:58):
and yeah, you take a look, and we would go
into the backyard, could get in the house. Of course
before we closed. We'll get in the backyard and just
sit out there by the pool, and thought, we're just
gonna sit out here and enjoy this. This is gonna be
our new pool, our new house.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's right, start dreaming a little bit.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah. The problem was, you know, you couldn't do it
for more than about five minutes because of the must
get us And we made it a point and I
called you and I said, hey, listen, here, here's our
closing date, here's what we're moving in. Can you guys
get over there like that day and spray this puppy down?
And you did math. I think you came over and
spray the day or so before we close on the house,

(20:31):
post get set up. What do they need to do?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
My friend eight five five, askad Joe eight five to five,
askad Joe. They'll enter their zip code and then we'll
direct you to either our Columbia office or our office
over around Lake Murray.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
All right, try thanks man, enjoying the rest of your
my mortal day weekend. Buddy, you too, Thank you, and
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the Home Improvement Show of the Midlands on one O
three point five FM and five sixty AMWVOC. Look at
the calendar, friends, it is the last day of the
month of May. Yeah, Marcus Greenwell.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to break down that quick.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's okay, man, Sorry, time tomorrow's June one, Memorial Day
he had come and gone. It's the unofficial start of summer,
all right, right, summer itself, the counter says a few
weeks away still, But uh hey, why wait for the
calendar to tell you it's summer?

Speaker 7 (22:11):
All right?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Go ahead and start enjoying it.

Speaker 8 (22:13):
Well, let's have a summer sell then, what Yeah, let's
do that sale of the granite remnants that I have
on sale.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
So at the shop up Wait Road.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
The remnant's not right, yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Lifetime Cabinets Countertops is name of the company. One fifty
three Chapin Road is where the remnants sale is going
to be, right, But you could get some ideas at
my Pine Grove store, which is I call Pine Grove.
It's right at forty twenty Fernandina Road, right over there
by Costco and Northern Tool and right beside Greens.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
So you can get your bottle of wine.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Around the corner at the store.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Bottle of wine on one corner and some granite on
the other. Our courts, our courts.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I get the ground to get first before.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've had that high before.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
Don't bring the measurements under the influence, please, I bought
what Yeah, yeah, I haven't had that before.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, that's kind of funny. Well, now the remnants, and
this is something that's just been kind of ongoing, these remnants.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Yeah, I've been getting rid of a lot of them,
all the listeners. I just had somebody last week said,
you know, i've heard you on the radio. That's why
I'm in here. So that's exactly why I sold that
remnant last week. So if you want to come in
this week, I still have that sale, the summer sale
going on now. So I sold him a good deal too,

(23:37):
but I want to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's why. Well, now, for folks who aren't familiar with
what we're talking about here, a remnant is well just
that looking up in the dictionary. So it's leftover.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Yeah, it's from a brand new piece.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's right, it's unused. It's not used. It's unused, right,
you ain't selling used countertops.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
It's the chunk that was left over off the slab
from a kitchen. It's the little piece left over. And
so somebody bought a kitchen, they have another leftover piece
from that kitchen, then I can sell it at a
good rate instead of having minimum charges and and all
that stuff from the big box stores. You go in
there and you get a good deal for me, get

(24:16):
you on the calendar, put it in just in time
for your summer party.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Now you say a little bit left over, sometimes it's
bigger a little bit.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
Yeah, I've got enough to do outdoor kitchens and small kitchens.
And you know, as a matter of fact, a buddy
of mine's a house flipper and I put these leftover
pieces in his small kitchen.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
As a matter of fact, I measured one yesterday for him.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah. So again, this is because this is the way
you guys do business, and not everybody does it the
way you.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
Do it, right, No, no, huh, not at all.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean there are really places you could go and
if you only needed a slab and a half, they're
gonna charge you for two two slabs.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
Yeah really, And then they'll they'll say, well, you can
have the other piece, or we'll keep it for you.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And they hope they I hope that you say you
just keep it, yeah, the thing around and resell it.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
Right, yeah, or just don't even say anything. Well, then
there's that, right, and we only charge it for what
you use. That's what your point is, So it's only fair.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
Yeah. I mean, you know, if.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
You have a forty five square foot kitchen and the
slab is forty we have to get a second slab.
This is exactly what Gary's talking about. You don't have
to purchase that second slab, and then we'll go and
sell the remnant piece off of that second slab.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
For you guys.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
And that's you've been doing that at your cost.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Right, yeah, at my cost? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
Okay, yeah, it's a beautiful deal.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now again, let's remind you to see the remnants. You
need to go to the Chapin.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
Location one fifty three Chapin Road and I'll bring you
straight to my doorstep.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
We're building the back.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
Yeah, you could see the slabs of granted coming up
the driveway.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And that's a fascinating place. I mean, I've spent some
time out there, mister Greenwell.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
I love it. I was out there all last weekend.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
We spend a lot of time, I doubt.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Are usually like the you like a lifetime ambassador, right, Yeah,
you're going around you're beating people, you know, shaking hands,
babies and measuring. I do all the measuring for countertops
and so, yes, sir.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
And I and I do work the store there Wednesdays
and today Saturdays, so I get to spend a lot
of time out there.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
I'm intimately, you.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
Know, with the met with the remnants and everything.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
I know exactly what the costs are.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
When we walk around and say, oh, yeah, that one's
X amount of dollars for that bathroom or whatever, I'll
tell you the price right there on the spot. There's
no question mark, you know, when you're walking around, I
can tell you is if you bring your measurements to
me at the shop. So my vanity's seventy two inches,
you know that type of thing.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
And let's talk about it for a secon Because how
precise do these measurements need to be?

Speaker 8 (26:52):
I can get the price within fifty bucks usually, you know,
as long as you get you close your measurement close,
because normally I, if you just measure what's there, I'll
normally add an inch or two, you know, for overhangs
and proper, you know, to cover up damaged sheet rock
that's on the wall.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
When we pull the old top off.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
I'll go a little longer to kind of help conceal
that kind of stuff. So normally it's within fifty bucks,
maybe even the exact same price. I've had a lot
of them be exact because they had the extra, you know,
because you want to do an inch and a half
on the front, inch on the side, maybe inch in
a quarter depends on how you know, and then you
go a little bit higher on the back splash if

(27:31):
you can, for the mirror, you know, or for the
kitchen if you're there's.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
A couple of things that come involved with that.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
But uh, you know, if you just get the measurement
of the space, I would always, you know, suggest you
draw out a little sketch just like it Sits not
necessarily for the bathroom because they're a pretty square rectangle
or whatever. But if you take a kitchen and just
draw little rectangles just like the kitchen looks, and then

(27:58):
put the measurements on the rectangles, I'll get it within
fifty bucks easy.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So you're the measurement that we do doesn't have to
be down to like.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
A millimeter right right.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
It could be what you do when you come in
after yes.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
Sir, yeah, I get it to the one hundred of
square foot, so I get it pretty tight.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah. So but if you get a chance to go
out to the Chapin location, I say, it's a fascinating place,
no one, because Marcus is there today, fascinating right there.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, and I can take care of you.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you might get lucky and be able to be
out there when Enrique and the guys are holding court. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Yeah, that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
This is this is the other, the other part of
this story, because.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
What I call the stars show.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Right, Yeah, that brings behind the operation.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, I just measure order, do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
The bills.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But Enrik and his crew, these guys, I mean, really
are their artists.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
Artists and craftsman is what I like to call them,
because they are. They are really what mattered more than
me at the end of the day, you know, because
they are employed by us. They're not subcontract labor. A
lot of these guys, I'd say ninety eight percent of
the people in town have subcontract their install really, wow,

(29:12):
the most important part of it. They subcontract one hundred
percent of flows and home depot or well, I mean
box stores do. But ninety eight percent of the rest
of them use subcontract labor. They cut the material and
then send somebody else that that you don't even know
who they are, right, And my guys are been with
me for fifteen years, you know, I mean that's Enrique

(29:35):
was one of the starting crew members with me when
we started the cutting process and back in twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So what are they doing back there? I mean, obviously
they're cutting it to your measurements.

Speaker 8 (29:47):
Yeah, we cut, polish, cut the sinkholes out, polished the
back splash, polish the front edge of the material, all
that stuff. Well, one of the things we also do is,
well we'll go over the mat with you the layout.
So if there's some pretty stuff in the slab and
your wife are.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You want and if you're married, guys, yeah, yeah, I
figure out what is your wife wants.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
And most of the time, I would say ninety eight.
I don't know where ninety eight keeps coming from, but eight.
Most of the time the wife is more in tune
with sure, with the kitchen and the layout and stuff
like that. There are there are a lot of I mean,
I'm pretty picky too, so I get it. You know,
I would say I would probably be more involved. I

(30:34):
might be a two percenter, but I would say, I
really like that spot in there. Can we get that
spot in the kitchen? And I could either I can
look at the slab and say yeah, no, we could
do it like this and get some or all or whatever,
you know, But we try to We try to commodate
that portion of it too. Not everybody does that. So
you go to a big box, you're not even going

(30:55):
to see your slab, well, exactly, you won't never see it.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's not that one you looked at it hanging up
on them.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Yeah, you see a little sample which does not look
like the slab that you get. I can guarantee you
that it could have the same properties, you know, out
of the same mountain or whatever the case is, but
it's not going to look the same color exactly. It's
not going to have you know, you're not going to
have a choice of.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Where the.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Movement goes in it, and that kind of thing. I mean,
we're like, just like you said, the artists and craftsmen
of the guys in the back, helping those veins match
up on up the back splash. You know, we take
extra time and care and doing that, and that's not easy.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I will tell you this because you guys have done
several jobs for us in a couple different houses, and
phenomenal each and every time. But one of our old neighbors,
y'all did her job, and her countertop had a lot
of movement in it meant a lot. Matter of fact,
you did it for our neighbor next door to us,
and ever cross the street from us. The torch people, Yeah,

(31:58):
they had countertops that had a lot more movement and
more more stuff going on than we did in hours.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
And and to look at it and to see how yeah,
when you you know, transitions from the countertop of the backsplash,
how Enrique and those guys were able to cut this
to make it look like Yeah, it was like they
just took that thing and just kind of kind of
folded up by ninety degrees. Yeah, I mean it was amazing.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
Yeah. And I really liked their raised bar, what they
did over there.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
Yeah, that's right, how it flows up the bar and
across through the bar. I remember that was a fantasy Brown.
I remember them. Oh yeah, the porch people, they're they're awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, the porch people.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
He's got nemo, he breeds and fish.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Oh, yeahs called. Yeah, I don't forgot. Now that's what
I call him.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
Nemo clownfish, clownfish, yeah, clown breeds crown clownfish.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So but but but that's that's the point, right. Uh,
these guys, you've got to have been with you, Enrique
for fifteen years.

Speaker 8 (32:59):
You get to know my customers. See there, I even
know all that about see look at that.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:04):
But but yeah, Enrique is the key on the job.
He is like a general on the job when we
come out there. My guys don't go out there smoke
cigarettes and talk on the cell phone. They go out
there boom boom, boom boom, and they're a machine. I mean,
they go in there, work, knock it out, go on
and go on to the next one. You'll you'll see,

(33:25):
you'll say the same exact thing. I've had contractors, homeowners
that were contractors that have called me after the job
and said, the only way I knew y'all were at
my house was because I had new countertops.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
There was no other evidence that y'all were at my house.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The cleanup crew and everything.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah, yeah, we we we clean he was.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
He was saying how we were cleaning the sides of
the cabinets off, and I mean just stuff that normal crew.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Our experience, they've they've been cleaning while these guys are
still installing. Yeah yeah, d was all said none. I
mean they're constantly yoke.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yeah yeah, because I got the whole crew in there.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
Yeah, yeah, we do.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
We really care about keeping things tidy as we go.
You know, it's just what sets a support from everybody else.
Just those guys, I mean, they are the best in
the business.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
And they know what my expectations are.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
Honestly, I am very I'll claim it right now, and
I'm very picky, all right, I don't want to I'll
just say detail oriented.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Y'all should see the preparation we do before this segment
every other stuff talking about picky.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
Wow, I love it.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
Thank you for telling me, telling everybody that it's.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Just the matter is we just it? But we can
do that here. You don't do that there? Correct?

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, we But I'll go in and also give recommendations
on the you know, on how I would do it too,
and I'm not so insistent on it, but I'll say, hey, look,
this is my recommendation and to go a little extra
bigger here.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
You don't have to. It's just like Anne.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
Uh, she didn't realize that, oh yeah, that we could
do some extra over hang on hers. And then I
recommended it, and you were you ran it by her
and she said yeah, and y'all loved it.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Oh yeah, it was. It allowed us to use that
countertop as a place to put stools underneath at eat
and our original idea you hadn't been able to do.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
That, right, right, yeah, because it would have been just
the standard one and a half inch overhang.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
So so then you know, you were able to sit
there and have a cup of coffee while Anne prepared
the meal, or vice versa, vice versa. I'll say tomato
king because you show your hand up last week.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, I did almost cut my thumb off doing that.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Anyway, that had nothing to do with the counter talk,
but I did bleed on them. No, that's funny. That's
not funny.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
It wasn't funny at the time. But again, this is
this is part of the whole process. And we should
say this too, because while you guys got slab after
slab after slab to choose from, you know, some of
some of sometimes you say, okay, you don't find exactly
what you want.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
No problem, Yeah, no problem at all.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
We'll help you find it because and you've got a
relationship with these vendors around the area. I mean, it's
not like it's going to be well, it'll be in
a couple of weeks. We're talking at a couple of days.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Yeah, y'all met Cody on the on the show before
with Easy Stones. I call him constantly and say, hey,
I've got a customer and want some white and gray
marble veining or da da das or I have one
just the other day. It was a court sight with
some brown and some black in it, and it was
very unique, very expensive, but very unique.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
It was four decorator so it's a couple of hundred
dollars a square foot. But it was something that he
was able to source, not locally here. But he's got Charlotte,
what was it, Charleston and uh, and he's got a
couple of other areas and also different vendors as well.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Locally here.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
I've got two people. You could go view some slabs here.
Just call me some some two eight oh three some
some two twenty two twenty.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
I'll be able to go over that with you.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
If you, you know, if you've been out to the
store and you want to go view some more material,
give me a call. I'll get a lot of customers that.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
Sometimes it takes some you know, a little bit of
time to pick out material. Some people, some people walk in.
I had a guy come in yesterday, friend of mine
from high school.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
Him and his wife.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
They were there less than ten minutes. Wow in and out,
boom boom boom picked their stuff. She's she's claimed to
not be picking, and she wasn't. She just she saw
what she wanted and boom picked it.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Do what she wanted?

Speaker 7 (37:42):
Yeah, went for it.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah. Well, and then again the thing you do, that's
that's different. You brought the big buck store reference earlier
that you won't even see this thing until they're out
there sometime down down the road putting it in your home.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You guys, when you outsource it, you really want your
customer to come and look at it before you start
to cut it.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
Yeah, we exactly what they want, Yes, sir, we sure do.
We insist they come in and view the slab before
we cut it, just to make sure if there's any
inclusions they don't like, any spots you know, I want
to work around that or whatever. We try to accommodate
that because it's important to me. I've had customers a

(38:23):
long long time ago that that's that I've learned from
that that's happened, and they say, well, this isn't exactly,
so we don't do that game anymore.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
This you get exactly the slab.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
You pick if you go out to our local source,
or you get the slab that we bring in from
the vendor and then you come and view it.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
So that's a good point. Gary.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
All right, so today you are, you know, Chipping locations.

Speaker 8 (38:51):
Fifty three Chapin Road right there by the Hot dog
Man and also Cash Is Chicken. I'm in between Cash
Is Chicken and Higher Ground on one fifth Chapin Road,
and my brother David is at forty twenty Fernandina Road
over by the Costco and Northern Pool. I'm getting I'm

(39:11):
getting plugged from everybody over here. Out they're sending me money.
All yeah, you get Starbucks tools right there. I like
that place, and the gas station seeing get some gas.
It's getting cheaper and cheaper now, thankfully.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
All right, Lifetime cabinets and tops above the rest get
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Speaker 6 (41:16):
James, Good morning, sir, Good morning Gary.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
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Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'm well, Betty hope you are too?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
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Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh yeah, today everything you wanted to know and more
about ejecting sewage. Yeah, the things that we don't want
to think about, but things that have to have to
deal with. Yeah, yeah, right. So where do we start, James.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
Well, I guess so you start with just your standard
sewer line which is gravity fed, which means you know,
it's installed at a slope and everything that you flush
goes down and out either to a septic tank or
out to a municipality maintain pain sewer system, whether it
be City of Columbia or uh somebody like that. So

(42:06):
that's your standard system, which which is in my opinion,
one of the best, I would say, is the best
because gravity is always going to be there. If we've
got bigger issues.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
If gravity breaks down, wing't worried about it, right.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
So that's one one type, and you know, if you
have issues with that, we have the equipment. We can
go out and you know, locate where the issue is
with our camera system, a pinpointed with our locator, I'll
let you know how deep, what kind of conditional lines,
and once we get it opened, if you have a blockage.
So that's your standard gravity fed sewer line.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Would be fair to fair to say that if there's
an issue with a gravity fed line, then it's probably
a blockage of some sort. I meant anything else. I
mean other than maybe a broken line.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Okay, okay, I get that, but we miss the line.
But I would say typically roots is what we're dealing
with on the on a sewer line that goes from
the house to the city tap or your septic tang
is typically roots.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Want to give us your your standard create myrtle pitch
here while you're at it.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
Those are one of the ones that's definitely a culprit
when it comes to root blockages, that's for sure. But
new construction typically uses a thinner PVC. It's called thin
wall or and it's that green stuff that you know
most new construction people use. Anytime we do a sewer line,

(43:43):
we're gonna use Schedule forty pipe, which is thicker. I
think I may have seen only two lines and twenty
years that had roots in it that was on Schedule forty.
Other people may have seen more. But you know, when
you use that thick stuff, you really got to put
some pressure on it to break through.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So it makes sense builders using this because this is
a cost saving measure.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
I guess it is, all right, Yeah, there's there's you know,
when you're doing one hundred houses, three hundred houses, you know,
a dollar a foot on the pipe definitely makes a difference,
especially when you're doing you know, thirty feet per house.
So yes, it's the cost savings. But down the road
is it's an innocent issue for the customer or as

(44:28):
a homeowner. So that's why we always stick with schedtered
forty PVC. Right. So another type of system would be,
you know, a septic system. Obviously, we don't do anything past,
you know, once you get to the tank, that's where
we stop. At this point, we are working on getting
that license to do on site waste water repairs and installations.

(44:53):
So I'm hopefully in the near future will be dealing
with the tank and beyond. But that's the other style
of system. Another one would be sewerge ejector. So let's
say your house is lower than where you need to
take your sewage to get to the municipality sewer, so

(45:15):
you're going to have to pump that uphill, and there's
a couple of different ways to do it, depending on
the municipality. In some cases you'll have one tank and
that tank takes everything that gets flushed into it and
grinds it up and pumps it out, and that would
get pumped into the city sewer. A problem with those

(45:39):
you're dealing with something mechanical depends on something getting flushed.
It shouldn't get flushed or the pump goes out over time,
just wears down and locks up. Do you have multiple
floats in there that could potentially have an issue which
you'd have to address. There's a lot of moving part

(46:01):
well not a lot, but several moving parts that you know,
if one breaks down, you can have an issue with
not getting the sewage out to the city or municipality.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Well, it sounds like that method right there is the
most prone to failure. I guess.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
I would say, so you know you're dealing with you know,
have we found a cleaning rag in one the other
day and luckily we were just we were it was
sitting made it into the water yet, so it didn't
get pulled into the pump, because that's something that can

(46:39):
definitely cause an issue with that pump locking up.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Another I was gonna say, if you're a lot is
such as you just indicate that would require this. There
are no other alternatives, are there? I mean, you got
to find a way to pump that sewage up a grade.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Right, correct, Yeah, there's no no the route. Now, there's
different types of pumps you get, you know, your solids
pumps or your grinder pumps. Solids are more prone to
getting hung up on things. Then the so typically you

(47:16):
want to go to grinder. They're more expensive, they Failure're
looking at thousands of dollars to replace a pump. I
mean they're thousands of dollars just to purchase them wow,
for the pump itself. So yeah, it can be quite
costly endeavor, but you know, typically they're they're gonna they're
gonna last a good while. Your other system would be

(47:41):
like what they call a let system. So what I
call a let system, there's different names for it, but
that would be the one where you have a holding
tank similar to a septic tank that you get the
separation of liquids and solids, and then the liquids drain
off into a pump station, and that pump tank would

(48:03):
either go to a septic system or if the municipality
only allowed the effluent which is the liquid, into their system,
it would pump it into the municipality system. And in
that case, you're not having to grind anything up, you're
just pumping liquids out.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
Downside of that is you've got two different portions of
the system that you really have to maintain. So you
have your septic tank essentially the first tank in the
system that you have to pump every five years just
to keep it maintained and keep the build up down.
And then you have your pump tank, which has the
pump again a mechanical thing that could potentially fail or

(48:49):
you know, have issues with floats and situations and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
So as a homeowner, I mean, you don't really you
don't really have any idea what sort of system you're
using here? Do you mean, is any to know? You know?

Speaker 6 (49:03):
I would hope that that would be something laid out
in the when you purchase the home or when you
build the home, that that would be told to you
what you're getting. But yeah, in some cases people really
don't know what they have. Then we have to go
out and figure out what they have. Well in some

(49:25):
cases there are In some cases, you know, you just
open the lit up and you see a pump and
you pull the pump and find out that a grinder,
or you can probe around and see if there's a
tank in front of the pump tank to see if
it's that you know, two tank system where you're just
pumping out the liquid. So, yeah, it depends. It's just

(49:46):
a process of kind of doing a little bit of
an investigation, figure out what they have, what all is
feeding it. In some cases, it might just be, you know,
a basement bathroom. The rest of the house might be
on gravity. You might be dealing with a basement sewage
pump that just pumps that basement toilet or sink or

(50:07):
whatever is in that basement up into your gravity cut system.
So you know that you could have a combination of
two different systems depending on the layout of the home,
and you know how deep the basement is compared to
where you know your sewer line gravity drain is. So

(50:28):
in that case, I would definitely recommend not pumping into
the drainage portions within the house. I would take that
pumped drain and attach it outside and put what essentially
is a sewage check valve in. That way, if you're

(50:49):
lying ever back up from the house to the road
and that pump kicks on, if you don't have that
check valve or that what we call a backwater valve,
that water's going somewhere, that sewage is going somewhere, and
check not in and you're pumping straight into the house system,
it's going to be coming up in toilets. Yeah, definitely

(51:15):
a good idea to take that to the outside. I
do this is preventatives.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
This has nothing to do what we're talking about here,
But since you brought it up that you guys will
soon be licensed to do more work on septic tanks.
Uh I. Just when when when you pump a septic
tank out, where does that go?

Speaker 6 (51:37):
That's a good question because we're not even getting into
the pump side. From my understanding, there's only one or
two places that take that and they you know, they
go through a process of of you know, cleaning it
up or filtering out the bad stuff, letting the bad
stuff settle, and taking the water. So it just depends.

(52:01):
That's not something we're going to be getting into on
the pump side. We're just going to be doing the
maintenance side. As far as if you need more drain
field if your tank is deteriorated, we'll have somebody come
out pump the tank down. We'll get that tank out
of there, or abandon that tank, put a new tank
next to it, and then reroute the line to the

(52:22):
new tank and hook that new tank up to your
drain field system. So all right, Yeah, there's there's two
different licenses when it comes to d heck, Well, what
used to be d heck Right, yeah, I believe it's
the Department of Agriculture now, okay.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So Agriculture public Health. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah. It's
not a question I've often wondered, but since you brought
it up, it occurred to me. Okay, what happens? I
guess the most important thing is you don' want to
be sure you're you don't live in a home that's
near one of these places where they do that. Uh no,
thank you, freedom plug.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
Yeah, I'll pass on that as well.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
James. Always good to talk to you, my friend. Folks
need you any time of the day, any day of
the week, twenty four to seven. How do they get
a hold of you Freedom Plumbing.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
They can reach us at eight oh three four four
seven zero four seven one. Visit our website at Freedom
dash Plumbing dot com.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
All right, thank you, buddy, talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Yes, sir Gary, thank you. I'm James Carwell, local owner
and operator of Freedom Plumbing right here in the Midlands.
After working as a plumber for nearly a decade, I
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Speaker 7 (53:37):
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