Home Improvement Show 12-06-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Good morning and welcome in. It's time for the Home
Improvement Show of the Midlands on one O three point
five FM and five sixty AMWVOC. Good morning and good
to have you with us here on this weekend as
we draw ever closer to the big day, and we
know you're busy and we appreciate you taking some time
to spend with us this morning. My name is Gary David,
and coming up we'll be talking about removing popcorn from
ceilings with Russ Markesy from the Finishing Touch Team, Jeremy Halliday,

(00:42):
mister Electric. It's going to drop by and pay us
a visit. Right now. Trey Powell of Mosquito Joe fame
is joining us. Trey, you ever removed popcorn from a ceiling?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I cannot say that I have done that, and I
don't know that I would ever attempt that by myself.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, No, that's a that's a that's a messy, nasty thing,
and I'm gonna suspect that. Rusky gonna tell us, if
you do it wrong, you can create a bigger problem
you start off with there. So yeah, me, I would
stay away from all that. But we'll have for you
coming up here in just a few. How you doing, sir,
I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
How about you?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Terrific? Terrific. So what does Mosquito Joe do in the
Mosquitoes are well almost dormant here. Man. It's it's at
least typically, I guess this time of the year, you
guys kind of kind of close up shop from from
that perspective, at least from treating for mosquitos. Although I
think you've told us in the past, you'll get calls
from from folks that say, hey, come out and hit
us again one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, we do have a number of customers that just
want us to continue treating just because you know, the
weather here in South Carolina, it'll it'll you know, be
forty one one week and then jump back up to
seventies or eighties as we've seen in the last couple
of weeks, and it's fluctuates. And you know, mosquitos they

(01:57):
can they can hide and and over winter and and
come out when the weather is nice, and so, uh,
you know, for those customers, we continue to service them.
We we have a lot of customers that live on
the lake and have that issue with spiders, and so
we'll continue to treat those customers. We do home pest defense,

(02:19):
which is general pest control, keeping those roaches and ants
out of your house. It's more general pest control, and
so that that continues on those those little critters are
looking for warmth just like you and I, and so
they're bound to find their way into your house at
this time of year if you are not, if you

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don't have a layer of protection around the base.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Of that house.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
And it's it's one stop shopping now, right with the
mosquitoesel you can get the mosquito treatments, the total pest defense,
and termites as well, all in one.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. We also do termite bait stations. We also do
new construction, uh you know, pre treatments for that, and
so we doing that. And we also do road and control,
which should also be a pesky thing to deal with
at this time of year. People go out of the
town for the holidays or something. They come back and
they've they've got uninvited guests that have found their way

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into the warmth of their house.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Mm now back up here for a second. Talking about
the mosquitoes. Typically, I mean, your average mosquito is not
going to live maybe a couple of weeks, right, But
I guess you're saying that there may be some to
find a spot to hide out in that might extend
their life span just maybe a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, male mosquitoes only live really about ten days to
two weeks, but females mosquitoes can live like four to
six weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, during this time of year, some of the
cold is getting some of them on some you know,
very cold you know evenings, particularly when you have a
stretch of you know, nights where it's in the thirties
every single night. That's that's where it's pretty well doomsday
for most of them, unless they're living underneath a house
or or in a tree hole or somewhere that's that's

(04:03):
well insulated and well protected, and a lot of them
do find places like that to hide. But for the
most part, eggs are usually not hatching this time of
year because you're, you know, you have to have temperatures
consistently above fifty degrees and we're just having a lot
of nights in the in the thirties and forties, and
so those eggs go into incubation and they most likely

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will not hatch until February March timeframe, when those temperatures
are starting to get consistently above fifty degrees, so you know,
we do get a little a couple of months of
breaks for just mosquitoes. The mosquito pressure is significantly lower
than where it is, you know, in the summertime.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
But I guess it seems to me, Trey, that for
somebody who has never used your service before, now would
be a really good time because of what you just mentioned. Now, Yeah,
if you've got any mosquitoes off on your property right now,
they're not going to be here in February or March.
They'll they'll be both, yeah, but what they left behind
will be And again, as you mentioned, those eggs start

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hatching come February, come March when temperatures get to a
certain point. But in the meantime, you guys can pretty
much come out there and make sure that for the
most part doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Can't you exactly? Yeah, we will be you know, when
we go out to a property, you know, we are
scouring that property for any standing water. It doesn't take
but a capful bottle capful of water to hatch one
hundred mosquitoes, So anything and everything that would hold water
at this time of year, we try and get some

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larva side in it so that no mosquito eggs, if
they hatch, they're going to be eliminated by that larva side.
So you know, we like to take the tactic. If
they're never born, they can't bite. And you want to
significantly decrease the number of mosquitoes on your property, you've
got to be larva siding and looking for those sources
of standing water.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You've got to nip it in the bud. That's right,
And then to me, this would be a good time
to do it. I mean, for again, this is one
of those out of side, out of mind things, isn't
it for us? All? If we're not getting bit we're
not seeing mosquitos, we're thinking they don't exist. Well maybe
those ones don't, but that next generation is just waiting

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to invade your home here in just a couple of months.
It won't be long.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
How how mosquito there's there's you know, for every one
mosquito you see, there's probably a thousand eggs you know,
somewhere that are waiting to hatch at this time of year.
And then they'll hatch whenever those conditions are are right.
And uh, you know, we we hope that they don't
start hatching until the February timeframe. But you know, we

(06:45):
we don't spend a lot of time right now on
mosquito control. We're really you know, focused on our home
pest defense, keeping you know, ants and roaches out of
the house, as well as roadent control and uh you know,
mining those termite eight stations and making sure there's no
activity for that around the house.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So that's obviously a recurring service that you do with
a total home pest defense. But I'm gonna assume here
it's just like you're with your meskedit tradement, So you
don't you have to sign any contracts or no.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, we don't have any contracts. You know, there is
a there's a service agreement that just outlines what we're
going to do, whether it's bi monthly or you know
where we come out every other month or quarterly where
we come out just four times a year, and so
we'll come up with a plan that works the best
for that customer. All the results are always guaranteed, but

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we never have any contracts.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Are there advantages of doing it one way or the
other bi monthly or quarterly or just consumer preference.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's really consumer preference. I mean they both work. You know,
the quarterly is a little bit more expensive than bi
monthly because it takes a lot more product and it
just really depends on the level of activity. A lot
of folks that are honor around the lake or they
have spider issues around the house, they want us to
come out every other month because we're you know, brushing

(08:07):
that house with a with a dust to get those
cobwebs down and really eliminate those spiders right at their source.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
But most of what you're doing is done outside the home,
is it not? It is?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean, we we do not go inside the house
unless we absolutely have to. I mean it's uh, you know,
we're we're really all about pest prevention, you know. We
it's better to you have a concern about rodents. Uh,
we don't want you to wait until you've got mice
running all over the house to call. You know, that's

(08:42):
a you know you should be you know, treating for
that ahead of time and keeping them out. Same thing
with ants and roaches. You know, it's you. It's really
not a matter of if if you're living in the
in the South, it's not a matter of if it's
a matter of wind, and so you want to be
preventative and that so that you're you're never having that problem.

(09:03):
And just the consistent, correct, proper control, properly and consistently
will keep you know, insects and rodents out of your house. Uh.
And you got to do it this time of year
because it's it's a big time when people when they're
really looking for for warmth and trying to get inside
and they want to be inside for the same reasons

(09:25):
you do.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Sure, sure, And I had I gotta tell folks, y'all
have been treating our home with your total pestives mosquitoes
for a long time. We've been doing other you guys
for a long long time in a couple of houses now,
but in this home you started maybe six months ago
or so. I haven't seen them. I've not seen a
single bug of any sort in my house, uh, since
y'all been That's great. So thanks for that.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
What we want and what.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I didn't know, and you enlightened me a couple of
months ago because what we did have was a fly
problem in the backyard only when we were out there, though,
if you went out there to eat or something. It's
only they're showing up in droves. And you guys have
a fix for that too, and I got to tell
you that works great as well.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, and that's not necessarily included in the other services
that we do. And I mean it's a very you know,
last house that you have, you did not have a problem.
And that's very common that you know, there's certain houses
that have a significant issue and others that don't really
have an issue at all. So if you're going outside
and there's something like that that's bothering you every time

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you go outside, you know, you just need to let
us know and we can put together a plan to
help eradicate that that problem as well.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Let's been a few moments talk about what you do
what termites, because that's fairly new to what you guys do.
That's something you just cranked up this year. If I'm
not mistaken, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
That is correct? You know, Fortunately we have staff on
board that has been doing it for two decades, which
is great. But yeah, we do. You know, again, it's
test prevention. You know, with termites in the South, it's
not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
If you don't have several colinn of termites that are

(11:01):
living underneath your house. They're going to develop, it's just
a matter of time. And so you know, putting bait
stations in the ground around that house is really the
best way to treat for them. Those termites are going
to find those bait stations, you know, in and around

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the same time that they would find your house that
bait station, they're going to take that back to the
colony and it will eliminate the entire colony. Now that
doesn't eliminate the problem on the property forever. That's just
one colony. But any colonies that are underneath that house
that has proper bait stations with the right thing in
them and that are well monitored, it's going to just,

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one by one eliminate the colonies of termites that are
on that property and keep them that way. You know,
as over the next ten or eleven years, as new
colonies develop, those also will be eliminated. So as long
as you own your house, you should have some sort
of protection, you know, for termites.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So when you put out those base stations, are you
telling me that they'll last for a decade or more.
Whatever's in them, that's attracting those termites or to be refilled.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Not necessarily, it depends when the when the termites hit them.
But we come out every year and we do an
annual inspection on the house and on the bait stations.
We may inspect the bait stations more than once a year,
just looking for activity, you know, and you know, if
the bait needs to be replaced or replenished, we're doing that.
So we're staying on top of it, as well as

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doing a full inside outside inspection of the house to
make sure that there is no termite activity on that
on that house.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, another thing you do this time of Yeah, I'm
not sure it's uh I should even bring it up
because I think you're probably booked up right now. But
the holiday lights, I mean, we're less than three weeks
from Christmas. I guess you guys are about wrapped up
with that by now, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, we are wrapping things up, but we are
still taking calls and we we still do have somebody
wants them installed. Next week. I mean, we're just into
the you know, we'll just be into the second week
of December, and so it's definitely not too late. And
so if they want to install next week. We still
have a couple of slots and we can get them
up so they can really enjoy them for a couple

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of weeks before Christmas and then a couple of weeks
after Christmas before we take them down, so you know,
they can really still have them up for about a month,
which a lot of people that's all they want. So
we do still have some some of those spots left,
and if they're they're interested, please please give us a
call right away.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And by the way, if you've never seen the displays
that that the trades guys put up, it's it's very
obvious this was done by professionals. Not only are the
professionals putting them up, but what you what you use
the lights and everything else, it's it's professional great stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, we do. We don't put up other
people's lights. You know, somebody calls us and they want
us to put it up that We we bring all
the lights, the wire, we make all of our own
extension cords. We talk everything behind the gutters. Every light
bulbscrews in individually, and you know, when it goes up,
it's it's attached firmly to the house. It's not coming down,

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and everything is perfectly spaced and really accenting that house
the way that the person wants, you know, from something
simple to you know, something more elaborate. We do bushes
and trees and walkways and just however much they want,
you know, done, and we can work out a plan
and then we'll we'll maintain it for the season, making

(14:29):
sure that everything continues to work through the season, and
then in January we come and we take it all
away and we store it in our own climate control
facility until next year.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And if the customer likes the display, they can use
that exact same one next year.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Right, they can, But they also have the option to
change they want to change colors, or they want to
change it as time's there's no contracts, so there's no
term commitment to it. You know, we can change it up,
or we can do the same thing. Really up to them.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Okay, so a couple of slots left, maybe to get
to get those installed this coming week coming up here,
just as.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
To reach out to us Monday or Tuesday and get
on the books so we can get them installed by
the end of the week. But but we do still
have a couple of spots left if they if.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
They're interested, okay, eight five five, ask you Joe, right,
that is correct? Okay, good, Well, before I wrap things up,
looking back over twenty twenty five, all in all, how
would you how would you grade out this past mosquito season?
About like normal? Higher?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Lower?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I mean, what do we witness? Yeah, people ask me
that all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
You know, it's it's it ebbs and flows. Every year
has its own little unique thing. So depending on storms
and things like that that we have, I would say
it was a pretty normal year with mosquitoes. You know,
we had lots of heat and humidity, which we always have.
Our Our weather's pretty consistently the same here in the Midlands,
so you know, it was pretty typical of what we've

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seen for the last eleven Well.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Let me ask you this, then get out your crystal ball.
Looking into twenty twenty six, here's my question. Early in
the year, what sort of weather patterns that might develop? Okay, well,
I was saying they will, but might develop. We're told
we're going to have a warmer, drier winter this year.
But what sort of weather pattern you should be following
the first couple of months at twenty twenty six, that

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might indicate we have a bigger than usual mosquito problem
later on in the summer. Is there anything we should
be aware.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Of, well, any anytime, if to tell, if the temperatures
are elevated, if the temperatures get warmer, quicker and they
don't have to get hot, just just getting above fifty
degrees consistently, and we have a lot of rain, you know,
that's going to trigger those mosquito eggs earlier, and that

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problem will develop quicker. And the faster that they're born,
then the more eggs they're laying, and the more more
mosquitoes that are hatching faster. That's you know some sometimes
people think of mosquitos just as in the southeast, but
you know, places like New York and Canada and Alaska
have horrible mosquito problems. They don't it doesn't last as long.

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But you know, when their temperatures come up, they come
up pretty quick. Snow is melting, everything's wet, and their
mosquito problem gets real bad, real fast. Ours is more
of a slower, you know problem that lasts a lot longer.
But yeah, if we if we get weather that's a
little warmer than usual, and we get plenty of rain,
it's going to ignite those eggs and we're going to

(17:35):
be you know, we're we're going to be seeing them
a lot earlier than what we do normally.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So, whether it's for the treatment for mosquitos, the total
home pest defense including the rodents, or maybe it's termites
or flies like we had, or a holiday lights, that's
one number, does it all right?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That is correct? Eight five five Aska Joe.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Trey Powell, Mosquito Joe. Thanks buddy, I have yourself a
terrific weekend man than you.

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back to the home improvement show of the Midlands. Fun
one O three point five FM and five sixty AMWVOC
Happy to have you with us on this December sixth
Saturday morning time is flying on buy and we are
marching headlong to Christmas. Don't look now, Russ Markksey, Finishing
Touch Team in the house. Good morning, my, good morning, Garrett.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Ahead to be here this morning.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
You've got all your Christmas stuff lined up ready to go.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Oh yeah, everything's just perfectly done and yep or not
started yet either. I can't I give one of those
of those two.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's one of those two. I think I'm in the
not started yet category. I finally got out of telling
the family what I wanted because is that right? What
do I know? You know? What do I need?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I know? I know? Well, you know, you get to
a certain point in your life. It's just if you
need something, you just you go out and get it.
You know, it's what you do. So heh, I get it.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Good to be here though. Well we have you, man, yeah, man, yeah,
we uh We're going to jump into a topic this morning.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I don't think we have ever discussed with you on
the program and something I didn't really ever think to
ask you about. But by the way, Finishing Touch Team
tell us you guys are what twenty three plus years
in business now here twenty.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Three years, Yes, sir, it's been a long time. And
uh yeah, you know, full full interior exterior, residential commercial
painting contractors. And we one thing that we do a
lot of, Gary is uh, removal of popcorn ceilings popcorns, Yes, sir,
We get a lot of it, a lot of questions
about it, a lot of inquiries about it. Uh, And

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and we we remove quite a bit of it. And uh,
you know, there's just like anything, there's a right way
and a wrong way to do this.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Right, pretty sure I did it the wrong way one time.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
It's pretty you know, if anyone that you ever walked
into a house, it's obvious when it's been done improperly, right, Yep,
it's very obvious. You can see it. You can see
gouges in the ceiling, little you know, remnants of the
texture and corners, things like that that really makes uh,
you know, just a between a professional and amateur kind

(21:46):
of kind of job, Gary, Right, and.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Those a time when this was very popular, Is it true? Yeah,
that that that came about because contractors are trying to
hide imperfections in the sheet rocket. Maybe it wasn't leveled
totally or what have you or whatever. So they they
covered all that up with these this this popcorn thing
or some form of a texture.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, that is that's one of the reasons, without a doubt.
You know, sheet rock just itself is imperfect. Okay, it's
not uh, it's not a piece of plastic that you
dipped you know that you dipped in plastic like a mateltoy. Right,
it's got imperfections in it. Sheet Rock has a skin
to it, all right, and if you look very closely
at it, it's it has a little bit of texture itself.

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So it's never going to be totally perfect. But the
major reason why they went to uh to texture ceilings
like that is because it's actually cheaper to do it
that way, believe it or not, because it's less uh
skim coating, less dry wall work needed to finish all
the seams and corners of that ceiling. Ah okay, so

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you just cover it all up. So you're covering it up.
So basically what they're doing is there's a term called
bedcoating all right in the industry of sheet rock, and
that's that's your first coat. That's your first bedcoat of
drywall compound that you're putting over those joints to cover
those joints. Generally, once you bedcoat it and it dries,

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you you would cuff that down and you would apply
another coat of drywall compound, floating the seam out you know,
at least a good you know, fourteen to sixteen inches,
so that you don't see that hump any longer. Okay, Well,
with popcorn, you don't have to do that. You don't
have to do that whole second coat, which is the
tougher part actually, because that's where it takes the finesse

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and the you know, the skill to be able to
float the drywall compound out so that you don't see it.
So in lieu of that, they will go ahead and
spray the popcorn texture up there and be done with it.
You never see it. You don't have to mess with
that second coat, and it tends to be a whole
lot cheaper to do it that way. Okay, So fast forward.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
To you know now, and you're like, I got to
get rid of this popcorn exactly. Yeah. So when you
remove that texture, that's what you're left with, right, seams
that are imperfect exactly. Yeah. All the reasons that yoused
to begin with is now gone and you're left with
the the ugly remnant exactly.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
And so what you end up having to do is
you have to apply that that next coat of drywall
compound to finish those seams off because they were never
finished to begin with, right, they were only bed coated.
So you know, we, uh, we have a pretty extensive
process of popcorn removal. Of how we go about it,
there's a there's a right way and the wrong way

(24:34):
to do it, Gary, and uh, what what we like
to do is well.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
But first let's talk about the wrong way, because that's okay,
that's there's because us the wires. If we if we
have the gumption to try to do this, sure, probably
doing it the wrong way, I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah. Well, you know, the the old school way was
always to wet the the wet the ceiling down and scrape. Okay,
that's the that was the you know, the go.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
To way to the clean up the mess afterwards.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Exactly right, right, And I'm not going to say that
necessarily that's a wrong way to do it. We used
to do it years ago as well. We use a
tool now, a sander that actually is connected to a vacuum.
So as we are eating that stuff away and grinding
it away off of the ceiling, it's being sucked right
through the vacuum into the vacuum, nice and clean. Hardly
anything actually falls from the ceiling anymore. We still cover extensively, obviously,

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we have to cover everything up very extensively.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Still.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
But when you when you wet the ceiling down and
you scrape it like that, Gary, well, it softens the
sheet rock underneath it as well. So what ends up
happening is your knives that you're using to scrape with
start gouging into the ceiling, and it actually creates a
whole lot more work than than what's needed.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
In a lot of times, you'll that's what you'll see.
You'll go into a house and you'll see gouges in
the ceiling where that's been done, and you can see
pretty quickly you know how it's how it was removed.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Probably you're probably seeing the seams the sheet correct. Ye,
it's levels not even you're seeing that in the corners.
A lot of times you'll see the little build up
of popcorn texture where they couldn't quite get to it.
There's little tricks of the trade to get to those
areas things like that.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
When you wet sheet rock, yeah, I uzed you're not
soaking it necessary? No, yeah, but but will you wet
sheet rock? Can that cause more issues with that sheet
rock pretty resiliently? No?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, it's like you said, it's not we're not dousing
the sheet rock and you know, making it completely soaking wet.
It's it's really just that top layer and it's just
to get that popcorn off is generally what but.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
One of us was doing it. We were using too much.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
You could, you can very easily. You can use too much,
you know, you can use too little water obviously and
it's not coming off well. Or you can use too
much and now you're you're gouging the actual sheet rock
underneath it and making making more damage more work to it.
So hence, while we like using the sanders, we have
a tool it's called a fest tool. We use that
all the time and it works really well, and it's

(26:58):
it's just there's no mess at the end. The cleanup
is what takes a long time as well, right as
everyone knows, and that really helps out a lot with cleanup.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You're cleaning up like weeks afterwards you think you get
fight dust everywhere.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
You just do right. Nobody likes doing it. It's always
a challenge. Now, if the ceiling has been painted gary, right,
the popcorn ceiling has been painted over before, it does
make for it to be come off a whole lot
harder than if not.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh really it does.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
It's pretty easy to tell pretty quickly once you get
up there and start digging on it to see if
it's been painted or not. But sometimes when it's been
painted two, three, four or five times, sometimes throughout the years,
we have to use a combination of water and the
sander and a couple of different chemicals to actually get
it to remove and come off right. There are instances where,

(27:49):
and people don't think about this very often, where sometimes
you just get that odd ball ceiling where it's been
painted ten different times. It's just not going to come
off very well. You're gonna dig the ceiling half to death.
The next option at that point is to laminate quarter
inch or three eighths inch sheet rock right over the top.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of that pop or ceiling.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, We've had to do that many many times, right, uh.
And it helps if you have crown molding around your
room because you can pop that crown molding off and
now you don't have to corner tape anything to your walls. Right,
you put your crown mold right back up there, and
it hides the seam and it's a lot easier doing
it that lay.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Or you can even add crown mold at that point
if you wanted to do something like that, if you
didn't have it before, and you you you know, you
want to dress it up with some trim, that's a
really good point to put some crown molding up there
as well, dress it up.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
So your your your process. Yeah. Again, it really hinges
on that standard. It sounds like always there more to
it than me.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
So if it's so in a typical situation, here's our
step scary Okay, if it's a you know, a typical
situation with a ceiling, we'll come in cover everything immensely
plastic tape, you know, almost like you can perform searge
in this room. It's covered so well. Right we uh,
we remove all the popcorn now through the sander, uh generally,

(29:08):
and once everything has been sanded, Gary, what we do
is we we actually go through we prime the ceiling first. Okay,
we don't do anything else. We prime the ceiling first.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You don't do anything without priming at first.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
We really don't because the ceiling hasn't been primed at
that point.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Explain what what what what that does? When you when
you prime a surface, what what's the it's seals you're doing.
It's ceiling the surface is what it's doing. Right, So
that painus is penetrating into the skin of the sheet rock,
and it's actually sealing the sheet rock so that uh,
you know, things aren't it's not as penetrable, right, nothing
can get through it.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
It's sealed. You won't get any staining. There's a lot
of reasons for it.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Plus we are able to see all the imperfections a
whole lot better once the ceiling has been primed. Okay,
once you paint that thing, boy, all the imperfections pop out.
All the little grooves and dings and things like that
pop out. So it kind of gives us a roadmap.
And now we can go through and start skim coating.
All right, and we will skim coat, you know, generally

(30:07):
at least twice times.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's just a time a quick application.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yes, So we take drywall compound with drywall knives and
we float okay, we scoop the mud. We start floating
out all of the drywall seams where the two pieces
of sheet rock meat. Okay, right, that's a butt joint
is what they call it, right there, and you put
drywall tape there to CeAl your your your joint along
with drywall compound. And if you build it up too much,

(30:33):
you know, once you paint it, you can see that.
So you have to In the industry we call it
the term floating it out, and you float that out
about fourteen inches or so so that it blends throughout
the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
And you don't see it like feathering paint.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
It's feathering. It's exactly what it is. It's feathering. The
drywall compound is what it is. And it takes it
takes a lot of practice and skill and a lot
of a.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Lot of time.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
It does take time, sure it does. It takes a
long time to do it. Sometimes it takes multiple coats
to get it right. You know, certain lighting will come
through and you can see that hump. Everybody's seen that,
I'm sure in a row or two in their house, right,
you see that hump as the sunlight kind of shines
through just perfectly. That's the joint right there that you're
looking at. So you know, once we do all that,

(31:17):
we sand all this sheet rock repairs down that we made,
we prime again, because now that's new sheet rock mud
over the top of the primer. It has to be
sealed again. Right. We calk all of our corners to
the wall so that the seam is perfect. Okay, all
along there you don't see any grooves or concave edges,

(31:39):
and then we apply two full coats of actual ceiling
paint over the top of it, and that gets you
a pretty perfect Are you sleeping yet over there? Did
I know?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'm just I'm just sitting here thinking there's no way
to diy this. Man.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
There's a lot of steps to it. I mean, look
at Gary, we see a lot of We see a
lot of do it yourself removals, a ton of them.
We uh, bowl a lot of folks out with it too.
Sometimes sometimes they want to get into it, and ay,
more power to you if you want to tackle it,
you know, I always encourage that. But if it's more
than you know, if if you're biting off more than
you than you can chew, then that's where we can
come in and absolutely fix it or just from the

(32:15):
from the get go and do it right for you.
A lot of times there's high for it for your
ceilings that people don't want to necessarily climb to Gary.
You know, a lot of times we'll do the first
floor only then maybe the following year or two we'll
do the second floor. We do a lot of situations
like that. It just really depends on on, you know,

(32:35):
the need of it. Whatever they're looking for. They want
to get the entire downstairs done or the entire house.
We can definitely accommodate any of that. M Yeah, that's
a lot of I mean, to do it right. It's
that's that's a lot to go through it. It is,
it's it's you know, it's it's a sad not to mention.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
You're sitting there looking up all this time with you know,
your hand up to the ceiling and I don't know,
I don't know I could last that way. I probably
can do more about ten minutes at a time. Well
that I'm gonna take breaks left and right now.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Oh yeah, I mean we've done you know, commercial facilities
as well. We've removed popcorn several times, doctor, several doctors
cares facilities that are you know, six seven ten thousand
square foot of the area.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Right.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Oh, we've done this since so would take it to day. Ah,
you know, it does take a little bit of time
because you've got all the sheet rock preparers. So it's
you know, a facility like that a couple of weeks.
It'll take a couple of weeks to get it right.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So have a homeowner calls is I just want the
you know, I want the popcorn in the living room removed?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
What kind of timeframe are we talking from start to finish?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, if it's a typical living room sixteen foot by
twenty foot or twelve foot, whatever the case is, you
can figure on three to four days, you know, somewhere's
right in there to do it, to do it correctly,
do it right, right, that's what you're looking at. And
those aren't full days either, Gary, those are partial days
coming back and forth between dry times to get that done,

(33:56):
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Right, yeah, right, you don't want to rush the process.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
You don't want to rush it now. It's uh, you know,
if the paint's still wet on the ceiling from primer
and somebody's starting to apply the drywall compound. You know
that that that should be an alarm. You know, Uh,
those those paints and primers they have to dry before
you start repairing anything, without a doubt. Yeah, they definitely
do that.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Okay, and just see now I know why the one
time I try to turn into a total disaster.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, it's good stuff. It's uh, we get the we
I tell you, we probably get at least a couple
of calls a week on popcorn removal.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
We really do.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
It's uh, it's obviously phasing out. Nobody likes the look
of it so much anymore. You know, it is what
it is. But the good thing is it can be
removed and you can have a slick ceiling if you want.
It just uh takes a good you know, five to
six steps and you can get it right. But we can, uh,
we can definitely do it when we get done with

(34:54):
our ceilings. Gary, you never know there was popcorn on
the ceiling. You just never know it right, And that's
how it should be.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
What is the in your in your experience with it? Well,
you've showed up to do this, Yeah, yeah, I'm sure
you probably you've got that off and you've seen some
ceilings and anyone, Oh my goodness, this is a disaster
absolutely all the stuff that was hiding.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. There's hidden enities a lot of
times underneath, right, there's old stains, there's old repairs that
had been made that you couldn't see possibly prior to that, right,
and those are those all a part of the course.
We you know, we understand that. And that's not something
where if there's an old repair, let's say once once

(35:36):
we remove that, oh this is extra cost now to
fix this. No, no, no, no, it is what it is. Right.
We expect that there's going to be some hidden entities
behind there a little bit, and we just take care
of it. Gary, you know, but there's often you do
get that. You do get that. And like I said,
going back to the sheet rocks, sometimes you have to
laminate sheet rock to the ceiling. Sometimes there is no

(35:57):
repair for that. I have heard. Yeah, those are extreme situations,
but we do run across from from time to time,
and there's a solution for it at least, and it
tends to be a little bit i'd say about twenty
percent more in cost when you're laminating sheet rock to
the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I was going to ask you about that.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah, versus removal, it is a little bit more expensive
because you're paying for the sheets of sheet rocket at
this point, right, so you got a little bit more
material costs involved, but it's it's fairly comparable, you know,
either or fascinating. Yeah, yeah, Finishing Touch Team. I can't
always time we've been talking. This is the first time
we've even brought that subject up.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's right. Yeah, popcorn removal. Yeah, we can take care
of it for you, that's for sure. The bane of
most homeowners still like it. You know, some people still
like it, but for most of the Yeah, they want
to see that they are, they sure do, all right.
So whether it's popcorn removal, whether it's painting, whether it's
a cabinet refinishing and refreshing, it's all there. That one

(36:55):
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Yeah, you can always give me a call it a
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Speaker 3 (38:57):
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Speaker 1 (38:58):
We want to talk about well keeping safe today. That's
what's really when we talk about electricity. A lot of
what we talk about is keeping safe, right, that's right.
A lot of things can go wrong, especially if you
try to go it on your own. But but today,
keeping safe as far as smoke detectors are concerned. Yes,

(39:20):
all right, you're an electrician. You know the issues that
can come up. And I don't I don't know what
the stats are on this, Jeremy, but you know when
there's a when there's a fire and something happens and
something catches far, I'm guessing that a fair amount of
time there's some sort of an electrical issue that's caused that.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, it could be any kind of issue. You know,
somebody can be smoking in bed or whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
But but but certainly electricity you can can can be achieved.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Contributor to yes, electricity you want, you want the you
want a good installation. You want your electrical to be
functioning properly. You want all the safety devices in place.
But on top of that, smoke detectors are going to
protect you from fires that are caused by other things
in the home.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
You know, and we're talking about playing old regular you know,
sticking up on the wall, put a cold battery in
a smoke detector right well there where do we need
something more or are there better things available?

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yes? Yes, When it comes to picking out the right
smoke detector for your needs, uh, it's better to go
with one that's you know, been approved by testing laboratory.
You recognize that's right, you listed you want to you know,
you have things like ten year batteries now and smoke
detective smoke alarms.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
What more, it's more irritating waking up on a Saturday
morning because.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
There's this deep Yeah, right, time to change the battery,
get your ladder out and get up there and deal
with something that you may not be familiar with that.
I get it put back up properly? Is it going
to fall? You know?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
While I lived in a house one time, we live
in a home that the one in the room over.
We had a huge room over, and it was they
placed it up high. But the only you get to
it was to have to place a ladder on the
steps to get right. Genius. But anyway, they couldn't have
to deal with that problem anymore. But so it got
ten year batteries and I did not know that. Yes,

(41:15):
now is that can you buy those first? What you
may already have? Or is that a special smoke detector
that comes with a ten year battery?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Well, you can buy them, you can, Yes, you can
go to the local hardware store and purchase a ten
year battery smoke alarm. Absolutely the ones we do list now. Yeah,
we carry them on our vans. You know, mister electric
can come out and give you turnkey service. We have
smoke detectors with smoke alarms. That's the true terminology form

(41:45):
smoke alarms. And they're multi criteria, so they use different
technology to detect smoke or fires. And those are the
more they're they're the they're the recommended type of smoke
alarm to give you a better response rate, so it's
going to give you less nuisance alarms. But they also

(42:05):
have a ten year battery.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So you know, I feel dumb because I thought I
smoked alarms of smoke alarm, but apparently that's not necessarily truth.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
No, they've advanced, like everything else, you know, so quick
to change. The technology they have the way they detect
smoke or fire. There's a photoelectric and ionization technology and
what that does is it's detecting if it's an open
flame or a smoldering fire.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Really yep.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
And they have you know, little microchips in them now
that can can check double check itself and make sure, Hey,
is this really something that I need to be alarming about?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
And is there one particular type or one that has
particular functions or even a brand for that matter, that
you and your experience have found is the best to have.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
If the one we like, you know, it's a matter
of opinion. But the one that we install actually was
on consumer reports for being a very good uh smoke
smoke alarm, and it's made by a company called you
know U s I U S I. You know, I'm

(43:18):
not here for us.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I but you to say that I did. Okay, Now,
what's what's the cost of one of these things here?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
You know, when we get to cost, I don't have
them in the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Uh, I mean, is it that that much more expensive
than say the one you just go pick up at
Walmart or something.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
They're a little more spendye for the for the alarm itself.
You know, there's it's it. It's a variety of different
prices for different smoke alarms of Uh. As far as
what we purchase them for, I don't. I don't have
that information. But what we're not talking about undreds of dollars?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
No? Is there when it comes to where these alarms
are located in the home? I mean, is there a
science to that or is it just wherever the build
or put it when they build a house.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
There is a science to it there there? You know,
the way smoke flows through your home, the way the
way smoke rises in certain uh circumstances. You know, if
you if you put a smoke detector or a smoke alarm,
if you want to say smoke detective, that smoke alarm.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Next to smoke detector. Anyway, what you say.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Next to a vent. You know, that's moving air. You
may have problems. So there's a distance you should be
away from those areas air intakes returns. Uh, you should
selling fans, exhaust fans, bathrooms. You need to be a
certain distance away from different areas, just based on the
environment that they're going to be exposed to to not

(44:55):
confuse them.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
So, Uh, they need to be certain heights.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
They're always up high. Yeah, there's a reason for that.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I guess that's right. So if if you have a
really high vaulted ceiling, you may wonder why they put
a smoke detector, you know, so far up there you
can't get to it. But there's a reason for that.
And it's normally because that smoke is going to rise
to the ceiling before it starts filling up the house,
and so it'll be running across the top of the ceiling.

(45:26):
You know, they always tell you to get down on
the floor and crawl out of a fire, so you
can hopefully stay out of the smoke because that's the
clearest area. It's closer to the floor, So the ceiling
is the most contaminated area with smoke, and so that's
why they put them in the highest in the highest
points of the home, because that's where the smoke is
going to go.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Is there a rule as to how many you need
to have in a home? I guess based on the
square footage of the home. Is there a good rule
of thoam for that?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, it's a you know, every third you.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
A two story house, you're gonna be one up and down.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, one on every level. A smoke detector in every bedroom,
a smoke detector outside the vicinity of every bedroom. So
a certain footage really radius, yes, and then you know
common areas. If I remember correctly, the radius is thirty foot.
So if you have a smoke detector down there and
the area is greater than thirty foot, now you need

(46:20):
to outside that radius. You need to add another one.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Well, let's say I don't know, let's say a two
thousand square foot home. They're all laid out differently, of course,
maybe a different number of rooms and such. But I mean,
how many smoke detectors are we alarms? Are we talking
about in your average two thousand square foot home?

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You know, I'd say about six or seven?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Really that many? Oh? Yeah, And I'm going to guess
that most people don't have that many.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
No, No, I know, I don't. Nope. That's the code,
like we talked about before on the show, is updated
every three years and they find you know, you know,
they take data and they find out, you know, you
want one in multiple in multiple locations because you also
want them to be interconnected. And what that does is

(47:04):
if a fire happens on one side of the house
and you're on the other side of the house, all
those smoke detectors are going to go off. Rather than
the smoke detector getting to where the one rather than
the smoke getting to the one smoke alarm that you
have in the home, half of the house could be
a blaze at that point. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, And how is how does that work that they're interconnected?
Is that through an app or something or the wire?
How does that work?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
The best system is a hard wired system, and there's
a communication wire that runs in between them, all of
them and there and they communicate with each other. So
when one goes off, they're all going to go off.
Give you a better response time.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Wow, Okay, yeah, so more than likely unless your home
was just built in the last year or two three, maybe,
then chances are probably pretty good that at least a code.
You don't have enough of these in your home right now?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Wow? Who knew?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Well, you know, because that's why we do the safety check.
That's one of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yes, so we go, when we come out to your house,
we'll do a safety check on the electrical system and
give you an idea how you can make your system
safer because of the all all the new safety devices
that we have coming out that that make your electrical
system a lot safer for you. And uh, you know,
that's one of the most dangerous systems in your house.

(48:30):
I put that next to gas. You know, is electricity
flowing through your walls everywhere throughout your home and you
want to make sure it's maintained properly and that you
have all the safety devices in place that can help
protect you.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I'm just gonna bet that every time you do one
of these things, it's a real eye opener for the
home or business owner.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
It enlightens them a great deal, really does.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Wow. While we're on the topic of co two detectors
also something. So you ought to have, yes, best placement
for those, and we have it in our bedroom because
it's like, okay, we would seem that that would be
you know, if you were asleep, that's when you really
of course it's odorless, right seeh too is odorless?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
So right silent killer.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I guess maybe multiple CO two detectors in a
home too would be the best idea.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah, you definitely want one on every level. Okay, if
you have a garage it's attached to your home, and
you don't have any gas on your home, you still
want to have COEO detectors on every level. One on
every level at least minimum, and then one where that
door accesses the house on the garage, on the garage.

(49:41):
That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, so that's just for a
few leave left left your car running and the garage
door shut. You got you know, carbon monoxide entering into
the home, right exactly. So uh and then if you
have gas on the home, you definitely want to have
your carbon monoxide sure detectors. The ones the brand wein
install uh, like I said, they have we have a

(50:06):
three in one that detects smoke, fire, and carbon. Well
that we can do it all in one unit. And yeah,
so uh, multi criteria type are the best ones. Man
and the ones we install have a ten year battery.
Uh and so, and then when we talk about the
cost of them, you know, it's a fair price for everybody,

(50:30):
and especially when you consider the statistics that you find.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
The alternative not having them.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, if you go to the National Fire Protection Association website,
you can get a lot of information on there. I
think it is h if I remember correctly, three of
five fire desks happen in homes with either no smoke
alarms or no working smoke alarms.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Right, yeah, year about that all the time. Unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, you should be testing your functioning breakers once a
month too, Right, Well, I don't know who all does
that either.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
There, Well, how do you how do you do that?
Just well, flip flipmont means.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
There's a test button on them.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm not sure I even knew that.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, you might not have any Gary, I need to
come to your house and check it out.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
This is something you guys do at mister elector.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, we installed the We can put ground fault breakers
in so you don't have to have the receptacles with
the reset button on them. Okay, Sometimes they're convenient in
certain areas so you don't have to go all the
way back to the panel to reset it, or arc
fault breakers or dual function breakers, which had you know,
an added protection to your home, your electrical system, if

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you if your home's older than you know, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
So just out of curiosity here, if you went into
a situation and you know, the first thing, I know,
every time you guys show up, you're always doing a
safety check anyway, Yes, but for somebody who's home you've
never been to, or business for that matter, that's one
of the things you most certainly do. So let's say
you're in a situation you look at a break box.
You know, we should probably upgrade this box. I mean,

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what kind of cost we are we talking about for
your average home, the average number of breakers, whatever that
is in actually upgrading all those and bring them up
to the proper safety standards for older homes. I mean,
what are we looking at here? Ballpark?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, so on an average, you're probably looking at you know, six.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Six seven.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
You know it's it's.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Six or seven dollars. That's a great deal.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Six hundred bucks, yes, you know, six or seven thousand,
you know for a service change.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Oh, we'll get a fight thousands, Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
So you may. You know, it depends on where you're
what you're doing on the home. So services can you
know they can do about the whole nine yards sometime
about Yeah, we were talking about moving, putting the meter,
you know, replacing the meter, putting a disconnect out there
on the outside of the house. A lot of houses
don't have that. Now if you're building a new home,
it's required now.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Mister Electric, Jeremy, how today? How to folks get a
hold of you?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's just for a routine or an emergency.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Well, Gary, They can reach us at eight zero three
eight six eight four to two four three, or they
can find us online at mister Electric dot com forward
slash Columbia.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
All right, buddy, Hey, stay warm out there if you can. Man.

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