February 28, 2025 • 15 mins
We spoke with Executive Director Patrick Doyle about Community Gardens, the Workforce Development/Green Job Apprenticeship Program, Greater Hartford Green Team and Arbor Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. Thank you for listening to Community Access. My
guest today is Patrick Doyle. He's executive director at Knox.
Good morning, Patrick.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, Thanks so much for having us my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
For those who don't know about Knox, what is it
and why was it created?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Absolutely? So, Knox is a Hertford based community greening organization.
We were actually started by a Hertford City councilwoman named
Betty Knox over fifty years ago. So that's where the
Knox comes from. People ask me that, and Betty thought
it was critically important to make sure that we were
preserving Hartford's green spaces, but equally important is making sure
(00:37):
that everyone in the city has access to the benefits
that those green spaces provide. So we are here bringing
that vision to life, and really our mission as we
think about how we do that today, is to make
sure that we are engaging and empowering our communities to
create a greener, healthier city right here in Hartford.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Knox has twenty one community gardens throughout Hertford. What
do those community gardens look like?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So the community gardens is one of the ways that
we bring that vision to life of making sure everyone
has access So the reason we have twenty one gardens
is so we can make sure that no matter what
neighborhood in Hartford you're in, you have that opportunity to
go and get your hands in the dirt and more importantly,
to grow fresh, healthy food. The gardens are as unique
(01:25):
and diverse as the neighborhoods and communities that they are
inside of. So what's most important as an overarching theme
is that Knox provides soil seed library at our headquarters
if folks need or want to access seeds for what
they're growing, and then also irrigated water, so folks have
everything they need within their space to be successful in growing.
(01:49):
What's really cool though, is there's all the other community gardeners,
so people have the opportunity to come together. When I
first came to Knox, I didn't have a lot of
experience growing produce. Well, what's really cool about growing in
one of these Knox community gardens is there's lots of
people who have so you can always look over and
ask somebody what they're working on. Or one of my
(02:11):
tricks is whenever I see something in my garden and
I don't know what's going on, I'll ask some of
the other gardeners and farmers that are at that community garden. Hey,
have you ever seen this before? What have you done?
And so it's really great to be able to draw
in the expertise of all these other great people who
are in our community, who have years and years of
(02:31):
growing experience, and they all just come together to support
one another. So that's one of the best aspects of
our community gardens is the community piece of it. The
other thing that's really important is again no matter where
you are in Hartford, making sure that through these gardens
you can access the space to grow healthy, clean food.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And the gratification you must get once you see something
grow and think I had a part in this.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. For me personally, I really enjoy cooking. So one
of the things I like is when we're perusing the seeds,
just trying some new things and then being able to
harvest it and figure out what I'm going to do
with it. I have a lot of fun when it
comes time to harvest things and then figure out how
can I make this delicious put it on the plate
(03:16):
for my family so that they can enjoy that and
having that satisfaction that you've grown it. But I'm one
of those people. I love to experiment in the kitchen.
So it's really cool to be able to experiment in
the garden and then bring that into the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, and like you said, to eat it and know
it's so fresh and your hands had a part in that.
It's a beautiful thing. How do these gardens benefit the
local neighborhoods?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I think the main thing is that these gardens
are really all about folks in the neighborhood and in
the city having access to space where they can where
they can grow food. So the benefit to them is
that they can reach out to Knox, they can get
a spot that is assigned for them to be able
to take care of it, and then they have the
(04:00):
autonomy decide what it is that they want to grow,
what it is that they want to do with what
they grow when it comes time for harvest. So they're
having that opportunity to really make sure that they can
access foods. One of the main rules that we have
in our gardens is that folks need to use natural,
organic growing practices, so not you know, we can't be
(04:21):
spraying chemicals chemicals on the plants because when you do that,
you're affecting other people in the community and other people
in the garden, and folks consistently say to me that
that's really important to them, and so that tells me
they really want access to that fresh, clean food. But
the other thing is they get to interact with their neighbors.
(04:42):
They get to come together as a community and learn
from one another. And there's so much diversity within the
city of Hartford, so many different cultures, and really it's
an organic way to celebrate that to see how sometimes
those cultures are reflected in the way that people are
growing things or what it is they're actually growing and
(05:03):
what it is they're going to do with it afterwards.
So it's through those conversations that one of the benefits
to people in the community is that opportunity to come together.
But one of the opportunity or one of the benefits
to all of us, is that we get to learn
from these great people who are in the neighborhoods of Hartford.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's right, different ages, different ethnicities, cultures. That's really wonderful.
You can go to Knoxhartford dot org. That's Knoxhartford dot
org if you'd like to become involved. As you said,
one of Knox's key initiatives is the Green Job Apprentice program.
How does this program work?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, so Knox pretty quickly, when trying to do all
the maintenance in twenty one community gardens as well as
other projects throughout the pretty throughout the city, pretty quickly
came to the realization, Hey, we really have an opportunity
to teach skills here, and so what we do through
our Knox Green Jobs Apprentice program is to bring in
Hertford City residents. They work alongside our team and they
(06:04):
have team building skills. They have the opportunity to learn
from our team, but also the opportunity to work alongside
our team so that they can develop their skills and
their credentials so that they're employable in the landscape industry.
As this work has grown, one of the things that
Knox started to do is actually to take on some
social enterprise work. We call it our fee for service program,
(06:27):
but the idea is that Knox can provide landscaping services,
actually bid on and win contracts to do work in
Hartford and surrounding communities, and then we can reinvest those
profits in our mission work right here in Hartford. So
when our apprentices are going through the sixteen week program,
they're not just doing the work that volunteers might do. Instead,
(06:49):
they're working on real contracts. So when I turn around
and talk to a landscaping company or they go and
have an interview, they're able to showcase working on the
same kind of contracts that they would be working on
if they were in the industry.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And how is this funded? Do you need donations? Can
you always use volunteers? What can people do?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, Knox could always use donations and volunteers. We are
always looking for grant support with our workforce development program,
but it doesn't cover everything, so donations help us fill
those fill those critical gaps. So certainly we appreciate everyone's
gifts and generosity within the community. Really, what we want
(07:31):
to do with that program is give our apprentices a
full experience. So they get about two to three weeks
of really intensive training at the beginning of the program.
They get their OSHA Tense certification to make sure that
they're safe when they work in the field, and our
core team is safe when everyone's working together in the community.
(07:51):
And then they're working alongside our team four days a week,
one day a week, they're getting back to that team building,
getting back to those skills, or learning about different career
paths in the industry, so that at the end of
the sixteen weeks when they graduate, they've got good knowledge,
they've got a little bit of confidence, and they have
work experience so they can get a foot into a
(08:13):
sustainable job in the landscaping industry.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's amazing. I would love to hear from the people
involved in all of this and how it's impacted their lives.
You must have seen it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have, and it's really exciting. In fact, one of
the things that I really love about Knox is what
I call our Alumnox. It's amazing how sticky the organization
is and that once people have been involved, they just
keep resurfacing in different places. So it's great with the
apprentice program to see folks begin to take off, but
(08:47):
also to have them stay in touch with us and
talk to them us about what they're doing. And there's
been a lot of twists in turnance over the year.
But just a quick interesting story. We were actually I
was getting ready for a volunteer event and there was
there was a truck parked in the parking lot. I thought,
this is not going to go well when a bunch
of volunteers come here, and so I was able to
(09:11):
The driver had left a number in the window, so
I was able to contact them and talk about what
we were doing. When she came out, we started having
a conversation. She was interested in what we were doing
in the garden, so I talked a little bit about
the volunteer project, and within a couple of minutes she
had told me that she had gone through the NOx
Apprentice program. Now she was a successful truck driver. Within
(09:32):
ten minutes, you know, she was getting the Knox bag
and talking to us about her experience there, and it
was just really a great opportunity to connect in one
of the most you know, unexpected places. But it's it's
that's one of the things I love about the city
of Hartford and our work is everything seems to circle back,
(09:54):
and it's great to create those positive experiences and build
that community you're blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
There are a lot lives and changing lives for the better.
I mean, that's as good as in what you grew
in the garden, you know, if not better.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Absolutely, you know, in the garden, as I like to say,
sun and water work, it does you have to get
just the right dose right, but those those things go
and I think you know similarly, the folks in Hartford
have so much to offer, and they I find in
our work. What's really important is to give them access
(10:29):
to those places, in those experiences that will let them
bring those things out of themselves, but also to share
it with the community so that we can all benefit
from the skills and the passion that they bring.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Again, if you're interested in this program as well, go
to Knoxhartford dot org. Why is Arbor Day so important
to Knox in the Hartford community?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So we right now are April, especially this week April
is starting to feel a little bit closer. But during
April we celebrate Earth Day, we also celebrate Arbor Day.
And here in Hartford, trees play a really important critical
Trees in Hartford play a really critical role. The canopy
(11:13):
here in Harford, compared to surrounding towns in the state
as a whole, is significantly lower, which means that people
don't have equal access to clean air, to shade to
lower temperatures in Harford as they do in surrounding communities.
So planting trees and caring for trees is critically important
(11:34):
on Arbor Day. What we do is really highlight the
work that's happening throughout the city throughout the year, but
to really celebrate the work planting trees, taking care of
the trees that are here so they can continue to
provide benefits to folks in the city, and celebrating the
efforts of all the groups, of all the organizations, of
(11:54):
all the individuals that are investing in that canopy and
making sure that everyone here in Hartford has the benefits
that trees offer.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So what will happen on Arbor Day concerning Knox.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So in the past couple of years in Arbor Day,
we have had some great volunteer tree plantings. Last year
we were in Colt Park. The year before that we
were at the Martin Luther King Middle School. Typically on
Arbor Day we plant anywhere from twenty to thirty trees
with a group of volunteers, and we also find ways
(12:28):
to demonstrate different tree care techniques and things like that.
So that's what we plan to do this year. We're
actually in conversations with the school district, so we are
going to be planting with volunteers out one of Hartford's
public schools. But we're still finalizing the details with their
facilities team at the schools. We want to make sure
that the trees are really going to benefit the students
(12:51):
and the community, but we also have to make sure
in order to do that, that we're cognizant of any
renovations that schools might be doing or anything else in
the future, because when we plant those trees, we don't
want them to be disturbed. We want them to be
well maintained, well watered, to get established and be strong
resources for the community and strong infrastructure for the community
(13:12):
for decades to come. And so we're in the process
of finalizing those details, but we're excited to be working
with Hartford Public Schools and to know that families and
children will be right there getting the benefits of these trees.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you have any other upcoming events besides Arbor Day?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We do so at Knox We have volunteer events pretty
much every month that anyone can sign up for, so
it's called the Greater Hertford Green Team. Our next event
coming up is on March twenty ninth. We're actually going
to be starting efforts to create flower planters that we
put all around Hartford. So every year we put out
(13:50):
between two and three hundred flower planters in the city
of Hartford and maintain them. On March twenty ninth is
going to be sort of our first volunteer event to
help get those planters ready. We have all these little
mini baby flowers and we have to step them up
into bigger parts. So volunteers will be helping us replant
(14:10):
those plugs into bigger pots, and then later in May
they'll be helping us get them into the flower planters themselves.
But it's a great opportunity to get your hands in
the dirt and know that those planters are going to
be helping to get into every neighborhood in Hartford and
really put smiles on people's faces.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Is there one particular project that had the most significant
impact from the Greater Hartford Green Team that you think?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think they all have really great impact. The other
piece that's important is we are blessed with beautiful parks
and green spaces beyond those parks all throughout Hartford.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm speaking with Patrick Doyle, executive director at Knox. Just
go to Knoxhartford dot org if you'd like to become involved,
make a donation, volunteer, Thank you so much for being
here today, my pleasure,
Good morning. Thank you for listening to Community Access. My
guest today is Patrick Doyle. He's executive director at Knox.
Good morning, Patrick.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, Thanks so much for having us my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
For those who don't know about Knox, what is it
and why was it created?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Absolutely? So, Knox is a Hertford based community greening organization.
We were actually started by a Hertford City councilwoman named
Betty Knox over fifty years ago. So that's where the
Knox comes from. People ask me that, and Betty thought
it was critically important to make sure that we were
preserving Hartford's green spaces, but equally important is making sure
(00:37):
that everyone in the city has access to the benefits
that those green spaces provide. So we are here bringing
that vision to life, and really our mission as we
think about how we do that today, is to make
sure that we are engaging and empowering our communities to
create a greener, healthier city right here in Hartford.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So Knox has twenty one community gardens throughout Hertford. What
do those community gardens look like?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So the community gardens is one of the ways that
we bring that vision to life of making sure everyone
has access So the reason we have twenty one gardens
is so we can make sure that no matter what
neighborhood in Hartford you're in, you have that opportunity to
go and get your hands in the dirt and more importantly,
to grow fresh, healthy food. The gardens are as unique
(01:25):
and diverse as the neighborhoods and communities that they are
inside of. So what's most important as an overarching theme
is that Knox provides soil seed library at our headquarters
if folks need or want to access seeds for what
they're growing, and then also irrigated water, so folks have
everything they need within their space to be successful in growing.
(01:49):
What's really cool though, is there's all the other community gardeners,
so people have the opportunity to come together. When I
first came to Knox, I didn't have a lot of
experience growing produce. Well, what's really cool about growing in
one of these Knox community gardens is there's lots of
people who have so you can always look over and
ask somebody what they're working on. Or one of my
(02:11):
tricks is whenever I see something in my garden and
I don't know what's going on, I'll ask some of
the other gardeners and farmers that are at that community garden. Hey,
have you ever seen this before? What have you done?
And so it's really great to be able to draw
in the expertise of all these other great people who
are in our community, who have years and years of
(02:31):
growing experience, and they all just come together to support
one another. So that's one of the best aspects of
our community gardens is the community piece of it. The
other thing that's really important is again no matter where
you are in Hartford, making sure that through these gardens
you can access the space to grow healthy, clean food.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And the gratification you must get once you see something
grow and think I had a part in this.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah. For me personally, I really enjoy cooking. So one
of the things I like is when we're perusing the seeds,
just trying some new things and then being able to
harvest it and figure out what I'm going to do
with it. I have a lot of fun when it
comes time to harvest things and then figure out how
can I make this delicious put it on the plate
(03:16):
for my family so that they can enjoy that and
having that satisfaction that you've grown it. But I'm one
of those people. I love to experiment in the kitchen.
So it's really cool to be able to experiment in
the garden and then bring that into the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, and like you said, to eat it and know
it's so fresh and your hands had a part in that.
It's a beautiful thing. How do these gardens benefit the
local neighborhoods?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I think the main thing is that these gardens
are really all about folks in the neighborhood and in
the city having access to space where they can where
they can grow food. So the benefit to them is
that they can reach out to Knox, they can get
a spot that is assigned for them to be able
to take care of it, and then they have the
(04:00):
autonomy decide what it is that they want to grow,
what it is that they want to do with what
they grow when it comes time for harvest. So they're
having that opportunity to really make sure that they can
access foods. One of the main rules that we have
in our gardens is that folks need to use natural,
organic growing practices, so not you know, we can't be
(04:21):
spraying chemicals chemicals on the plants because when you do that,
you're affecting other people in the community and other people
in the garden, and folks consistently say to me that
that's really important to them, and so that tells me
they really want access to that fresh, clean food. But
the other thing is they get to interact with their neighbors.
(04:42):
They get to come together as a community and learn
from one another. And there's so much diversity within the
city of Hartford, so many different cultures, and really it's
an organic way to celebrate that to see how sometimes
those cultures are reflected in the way that people are
growing things or what it is they're actually growing and
(05:03):
what it is they're going to do with it afterwards.
So it's through those conversations that one of the benefits
to people in the community is that opportunity to come together.
But one of the opportunity or one of the benefits
to all of us, is that we get to learn
from these great people who are in the neighborhoods of Hartford.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's right, different ages, different ethnicities, cultures. That's really wonderful.
You can go to Knoxhartford dot org. That's Knoxhartford dot
org if you'd like to become involved. As you said,
one of Knox's key initiatives is the Green Job Apprentice program.
How does this program work?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, so Knox pretty quickly, when trying to do all
the maintenance in twenty one community gardens as well as
other projects throughout the pretty throughout the city, pretty quickly
came to the realization, Hey, we really have an opportunity
to teach skills here, and so what we do through
our Knox Green Jobs Apprentice program is to bring in
Hertford City residents. They work alongside our team and they
(06:04):
have team building skills. They have the opportunity to learn
from our team, but also the opportunity to work alongside
our team so that they can develop their skills and
their credentials so that they're employable in the landscape industry.
As this work has grown, one of the things that
Knox started to do is actually to take on some
social enterprise work. We call it our fee for service program,
(06:27):
but the idea is that Knox can provide landscaping services,
actually bid on and win contracts to do work in
Hartford and surrounding communities, and then we can reinvest those
profits in our mission work right here in Hartford. So
when our apprentices are going through the sixteen week program,
they're not just doing the work that volunteers might do. Instead,
(06:49):
they're working on real contracts. So when I turn around
and talk to a landscaping company or they go and
have an interview, they're able to showcase working on the
same kind of contracts that they would be working on
if they were in the industry.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And how is this funded? Do you need donations? Can
you always use volunteers? What can people do?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, Knox could always use donations and volunteers. We are
always looking for grant support with our workforce development program,
but it doesn't cover everything, so donations help us fill
those fill those critical gaps. So certainly we appreciate everyone's
gifts and generosity within the community. Really, what we want
(07:31):
to do with that program is give our apprentices a
full experience. So they get about two to three weeks
of really intensive training at the beginning of the program.
They get their OSHA Tense certification to make sure that
they're safe when they work in the field, and our
core team is safe when everyone's working together in the community.
(07:51):
And then they're working alongside our team four days a week,
one day a week, they're getting back to that team building,
getting back to those skills, or learning about different career
paths in the industry, so that at the end of
the sixteen weeks when they graduate, they've got good knowledge,
they've got a little bit of confidence, and they have
work experience so they can get a foot into a
(08:13):
sustainable job in the landscaping industry.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's amazing. I would love to hear from the people
involved in all of this and how it's impacted their lives.
You must have seen it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have, and it's really exciting. In fact, one of
the things that I really love about Knox is what
I call our Alumnox. It's amazing how sticky the organization
is and that once people have been involved, they just
keep resurfacing in different places. So it's great with the
apprentice program to see folks begin to take off, but
(08:47):
also to have them stay in touch with us and
talk to them us about what they're doing. And there's
been a lot of twists in turnance over the year.
But just a quick interesting story. We were actually I
was getting ready for a volunteer event and there was
there was a truck parked in the parking lot. I thought,
this is not going to go well when a bunch
of volunteers come here, and so I was able to
(09:11):
The driver had left a number in the window, so
I was able to contact them and talk about what
we were doing. When she came out, we started having
a conversation. She was interested in what we were doing
in the garden, so I talked a little bit about
the volunteer project, and within a couple of minutes she
had told me that she had gone through the NOx
Apprentice program. Now she was a successful truck driver. Within
(09:32):
ten minutes, you know, she was getting the Knox bag
and talking to us about her experience there, and it
was just really a great opportunity to connect in one
of the most you know, unexpected places. But it's it's
that's one of the things I love about the city
of Hartford and our work is everything seems to circle back,
(09:54):
and it's great to create those positive experiences and build
that community you're blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
There are a lot lives and changing lives for the better.
I mean, that's as good as in what you grew
in the garden, you know, if not better.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Absolutely, you know, in the garden, as I like to say,
sun and water work, it does you have to get
just the right dose right, but those those things go
and I think you know similarly, the folks in Hartford
have so much to offer, and they I find in
our work. What's really important is to give them access
(10:29):
to those places, in those experiences that will let them
bring those things out of themselves, but also to share
it with the community so that we can all benefit
from the skills and the passion that they bring.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Again, if you're interested in this program as well, go
to Knoxhartford dot org. Why is Arbor Day so important
to Knox in the Hartford community?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So we right now are April, especially this week April
is starting to feel a little bit closer. But during
April we celebrate Earth Day, we also celebrate Arbor Day.
And here in Hartford, trees play a really important critical
Trees in Hartford play a really critical role. The canopy
(11:13):
here in Harford, compared to surrounding towns in the state
as a whole, is significantly lower, which means that people
don't have equal access to clean air, to shade to
lower temperatures in Harford as they do in surrounding communities.
So planting trees and caring for trees is critically important
(11:34):
on Arbor Day. What we do is really highlight the
work that's happening throughout the city throughout the year, but
to really celebrate the work planting trees, taking care of
the trees that are here so they can continue to
provide benefits to folks in the city, and celebrating the
efforts of all the groups, of all the organizations, of
(11:54):
all the individuals that are investing in that canopy and
making sure that everyone here in Hartford has the benefits
that trees offer.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So what will happen on Arbor Day concerning Knox.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So in the past couple of years in Arbor Day,
we have had some great volunteer tree plantings. Last year
we were in Colt Park. The year before that we
were at the Martin Luther King Middle School. Typically on
Arbor Day we plant anywhere from twenty to thirty trees
with a group of volunteers, and we also find ways
(12:28):
to demonstrate different tree care techniques and things like that.
So that's what we plan to do this year. We're
actually in conversations with the school district, so we are
going to be planting with volunteers out one of Hartford's
public schools. But we're still finalizing the details with their
facilities team at the schools. We want to make sure
that the trees are really going to benefit the students
(12:51):
and the community, but we also have to make sure
in order to do that, that we're cognizant of any
renovations that schools might be doing or anything else in
the future, because when we plant those trees, we don't
want them to be disturbed. We want them to be
well maintained, well watered, to get established and be strong
resources for the community and strong infrastructure for the community
(13:12):
for decades to come. And so we're in the process
of finalizing those details, but we're excited to be working
with Hartford Public Schools and to know that families and
children will be right there getting the benefits of these trees.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you have any other upcoming events besides Arbor Day?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We do so at Knox We have volunteer events pretty
much every month that anyone can sign up for, so
it's called the Greater Hertford Green Team. Our next event
coming up is on March twenty ninth. We're actually going
to be starting efforts to create flower planters that we
put all around Hartford. So every year we put out
(13:50):
between two and three hundred flower planters in the city
of Hartford and maintain them. On March twenty ninth is
going to be sort of our first volunteer event to
help get those planters ready. We have all these little
mini baby flowers and we have to step them up
into bigger parts. So volunteers will be helping us replant
(14:10):
those plugs into bigger pots, and then later in May
they'll be helping us get them into the flower planters themselves.
But it's a great opportunity to get your hands in
the dirt and know that those planters are going to
be helping to get into every neighborhood in Hartford and
really put smiles on people's faces.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Is there one particular project that had the most significant
impact from the Greater Hartford Green Team that you think?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think they all have really great impact. The other
piece that's important is we are blessed with beautiful parks
and green spaces beyond those parks all throughout Hartford.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm speaking with Patrick Doyle, executive director at Knox. Just
go to Knoxhartford dot org if you'd like to become involved,
make a donation, volunteer, Thank you so much for being
here today, my pleasure,
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