July 22, 2024 • 9 mins
Hear the rest of Sark's comments at the THSCA Convention in San Antonio including his opinion on the House vs NCAA lawsuit and the recruiting period getting pushed up earlier in the calendar year.
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(00:00):
Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zonepresents the Harsh Knox Life Show. Join
Mike hards Wee day seven and nineam only on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
The Zone. It's the Craigway Showwith the voice of the Texas Longhorns and
(00:24):
all of Vane Broadcasting. Craig Wayspeaking of Mike Hardball. Harje as the
man with the very urgent voice,was just telling you if you missed any
of the earlier sound that we broughtto you from Long Worn's head coach Steve
Sarkisian's a couple of ways for youto get to it. You can go
to a podcast page. You cango there at AM thirteen hunderd The Zone
(00:45):
dot com, so it all bethere. But Harje will have a sound
from this tomorrow morning as well.He's on from seven am to nine am
and he might play one of theseother two pieces of sound we wanted to
get to from yesterday's press conference withsark from the Texas High School Coaches Association's
Coaching School and Convention, and Sarkwas asked about We heard him talk about
(01:11):
signing class and somebody asked him ifthere was more urgency because of it now
and earlier visits because they can takeofficial visits earlier, and that sort of
thing, and he said he neverworried that much about it. But he
was asked for his opinions on therecruiting of the signing period being pushed up
earlier in the first day, inthe early signing period coming early in December
(01:36):
instead of a later in December,and the contact window for under classmen in
June, and the potential the discussionof the possibility of a summer signing day.
All of that was asked him.Start, I think the visits with
the juniors on campus that they're proposingnow for January as well as in spring
(02:00):
recruiting are a positive because so manykids now are taking official visits in the
summer, and it's hard to identifya personality of a kid if you've never
met mom and dad and had areal conversation and a real sit down and
had some discussions with them, becauseat the end of the day, these
kids are committing very early, likewe touched on, and how do you
(02:23):
know, how do you know them? Because at the end of the day,
we're held to the standard of whothey are when we get them right.
And so if you don't get toknow the parents, because generally speaking,
the apple doesn't fall very far fromthe tree, and so you've got
to get to know the parents.You got to get to know the young
men. You've got to be ableto spend time. You got to have
those dialogues with them so that whenyou do get them on campus, hopefully
(02:46):
they fit your culture and what you'reabout. I'm a little, quite frankly
hesitant on the summer signing period becauseI think you learn a lot about players
in their senior year. We continueto evaluate the tape into the senior season.
Football, we're not our sport developmentis so critical from ninth grade,
(03:12):
tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfthgrade, and then when we get them
that development right for the NFL,and so you know, we're sometimes passing
judgment on kids coming off of ajunior year, and sometimes even in his
junior maybe he was injured. Andso how do you how do you pull
all that together? I think there'san avenue that we can get done.
I kind of like the calendar thatwe're having this year with that signing period
(03:35):
in early December and then get intothe portal because I still think we're protecting
the high school player, which Ithink last year the high school player was
not protected, where the signing datewas in the middle of December and the
portal opened and some schools were droppinghigh school kids because they were taking the
portal kid. I think now we'restill protecting the high school kid in early
(03:57):
December, and then we can getourselves into the portal. But I think
I'm a little bit more hesitant maybethan others to have a signing date in
summer when you're not even giving somekids a chance to play their senior year
of high school football. So there'ssome thoughts from Sark about that, about
the possibility of the earlier signing andthen of course the earlier signing day in
(04:21):
December as well, which he's reallyon board for now. One more piece
of sound from him. The Houseversus NCAA cases nearing its completion as well,
and there's been a discussion about aroster size that would also eliminate walk
ons or some walk ons anyway,that's been debated and that was a topic
(04:44):
of considerable discussion on stage in theD one FPS Coaches panel that I was
moderating yesterday. Hearing Joey McGuire ofTexas Tech talk about it to hear Sonny
Dykes of TCU discuss it and Sarkas well, but he was asked earlier
in the day at the press conferencebefore it, has he heard anything about
(05:04):
the prospect of where that roster sizemight be capped once this case is completed.
No, we really have it,you know. I think you know,
there's the powers that be or areworking themselves through that, and there's
a lot of things on the tableof what that's going to look like,
from roster cap to revenue sharing andhow how that's going to look in the
(05:28):
end. I think we can lookat that. As a coach, I
can look at that down the road, and you have to because there are
some discussions on that. But moreimportant to me is what are we doing
this year? Right? I justwant to make sure I'm coaching next year
when that when that comes out,So you've got to kind of focus on
what are we doing this year andhow we maximize in the team that we
have this year to put them inthe best best position to be successful and
(05:54):
be the type of team that Ithink we can have. All Right,
So there it is thoughts from Steve'sarkeisian about that as well. So it
was, like I said, it'salways a really intriguing time and a real
interesting give and take when you hearthem also on stage and hearing the challenges
(06:23):
and the problems for a G fiveprogram, say like Texas State and GJ.
Kenney did an excellent job yesterday onthe panel and talking about the differences,
say with the transfer portal and howit relates. And it was a
question I put the sark initially wasbecause, let me tell you, it's
a little bit of a delicate balancewhen you have thirteen coaches on that day,
(06:49):
and we had fourteen yesterday because wehad Craig Bowl, the executive director
of the American Football Coach Association,So we had basically an hour to hear
fourteen coaches and their opinions on things. And you don't want to give too
much time to anyone coach, andyou sure as heck don't want to short
(07:09):
anybody out. I mean, Ithink of guys like coach Walden coming in
from UTEP. He's coming all theway in from l pass on one and
I'm not gonna ask him a question, of course, not, of course
I am and so you try tobalance that out. And I'm happy to
say that all fourteen voices up theregot to answer at least two questions each
(07:29):
in an hour. So it wasit was a little bit of a hustle
and a hustle and all that,but we got it all in and it
worked out fine. But I askedSarak about, you know, the portal
versus high school, and he said, it's really really important them to continue
to make sure that the majority ofthe players that they're recruiting are high school
(07:51):
players. Now I understand where youmight think it might make sense for him
to say that in a room fullof nine hundred high school football coaches,
and it was a vast ballroom therehe was doing it. But he made
a great point in saying, youbuild a relationship over time with those guys.
Are there going to be some areaswhere you have need areas need to
fill in absolutely, And they've donethat, he said, But it's got
(08:15):
to be the base has got tobe the high school thing. Then when
you visit with a G five coachlike an Eric Morris at North Texas or
a Scottie Walden at UTAP or GJ. Kenney at Texas State, sometimes they
have to take a little bit differentlook at it. Coach Kenny, I
thought, did a really good jobof explaining how when he first took over,
(08:39):
there were so many holes, somany gaps, they had to dive
into the portal quickly and try toshore up some of those spots in the
immediacy to have a roster that couldcompete. And they did more than compete,
they did very very well and gotin the school's first ever ballgame.
But he and coach Walden at UTAPand like I said, Coach Keeler at
(09:01):
Sam Houston, you know Coach MorrisonNorth Texas. They all echoed the same
thing that we heard from Sark,that we heard from Mike Elko, that
we heard from also from Sunny Dykes, that the bread and butter, the
meat and potatoes, still has tobe the high school football recruit. You
get those guys as your foundation andyou build from there. We'll be back
(09:22):
to wrap up today's program here onsports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in
the iHeartRadio app
Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zonepresents the Harsh Knox Life Show. Join
Mike hards Wee day seven and nineam only on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
The Zone. It's the Craigway Showwith the voice of the Texas Longhorns and
(00:24):
all of Vane Broadcasting. Craig Wayspeaking of Mike Hardball. Harje as the
man with the very urgent voice,was just telling you if you missed any
of the earlier sound that we broughtto you from Long Worn's head coach Steve
Sarkisian's a couple of ways for youto get to it. You can go
to a podcast page. You cango there at AM thirteen hunderd The Zone
(00:45):
dot com, so it all bethere. But Harje will have a sound
from this tomorrow morning as well.He's on from seven am to nine am
and he might play one of theseother two pieces of sound we wanted to
get to from yesterday's press conference withsark from the Texas High School Coaches Association's
Coaching School and Convention, and Sarkwas asked about We heard him talk about
(01:11):
signing class and somebody asked him ifthere was more urgency because of it now
and earlier visits because they can takeofficial visits earlier, and that sort of
thing, and he said he neverworried that much about it. But he
was asked for his opinions on therecruiting of the signing period being pushed up
earlier in the first day, inthe early signing period coming early in December
(01:36):
instead of a later in December,and the contact window for under classmen in
June, and the potential the discussionof the possibility of a summer signing day.
All of that was asked him.Start, I think the visits with
the juniors on campus that they're proposingnow for January as well as in spring
(02:00):
recruiting are a positive because so manykids now are taking official visits in the
summer, and it's hard to identifya personality of a kid if you've never
met mom and dad and had areal conversation and a real sit down and
had some discussions with them, becauseat the end of the day, these
kids are committing very early, likewe touched on, and how do you
(02:23):
know, how do you know them? Because at the end of the day,
we're held to the standard of whothey are when we get them right.
And so if you don't get toknow the parents, because generally speaking,
the apple doesn't fall very far fromthe tree, and so you've got
to get to know the parents.You got to get to know the young
men. You've got to be ableto spend time. You got to have
those dialogues with them so that whenyou do get them on campus, hopefully
(02:46):
they fit your culture and what you'reabout. I'm a little, quite frankly
hesitant on the summer signing period becauseI think you learn a lot about players
in their senior year. We continueto evaluate the tape into the senior season.
Football, we're not our sport developmentis so critical from ninth grade,
(03:12):
tenth grade, eleventh grade, twelfthgrade, and then when we get them
that development right for the NFL,and so you know, we're sometimes passing
judgment on kids coming off of ajunior year, and sometimes even in his
junior maybe he was injured. Andso how do you how do you pull
all that together? I think there'san avenue that we can get done.
I kind of like the calendar thatwe're having this year with that signing period
(03:35):
in early December and then get intothe portal because I still think we're protecting
the high school player, which Ithink last year the high school player was
not protected, where the signing datewas in the middle of December and the
portal opened and some schools were droppinghigh school kids because they were taking the
portal kid. I think now we'restill protecting the high school kid in early
(03:57):
December, and then we can getourselves into the portal. But I think
I'm a little bit more hesitant maybethan others to have a signing date in
summer when you're not even giving somekids a chance to play their senior year
of high school football. So there'ssome thoughts from Sark about that, about
the possibility of the earlier signing andthen of course the earlier signing day in
(04:21):
December as well, which he's reallyon board for now. One more piece
of sound from him. The Houseversus NCAA cases nearing its completion as well,
and there's been a discussion about aroster size that would also eliminate walk
ons or some walk ons anyway,that's been debated and that was a topic
(04:44):
of considerable discussion on stage in theD one FPS Coaches panel that I was
moderating yesterday. Hearing Joey McGuire ofTexas Tech talk about it to hear Sonny
Dykes of TCU discuss it and Sarkas well, but he was asked earlier
in the day at the press conferencebefore it, has he heard anything about
(05:04):
the prospect of where that roster sizemight be capped once this case is completed.
No, we really have it,you know. I think you know,
there's the powers that be or areworking themselves through that, and there's
a lot of things on the tableof what that's going to look like,
from roster cap to revenue sharing andhow how that's going to look in the
(05:28):
end. I think we can lookat that. As a coach, I
can look at that down the road, and you have to because there are
some discussions on that. But moreimportant to me is what are we doing
this year? Right? I justwant to make sure I'm coaching next year
when that when that comes out,So you've got to kind of focus on
what are we doing this year andhow we maximize in the team that we
have this year to put them inthe best best position to be successful and
(05:54):
be the type of team that Ithink we can have. All Right,
So there it is thoughts from Steve'sarkeisian about that as well. So it
was, like I said, it'salways a really intriguing time and a real
interesting give and take when you hearthem also on stage and hearing the challenges
(06:23):
and the problems for a G fiveprogram, say like Texas State and GJ.
Kenney did an excellent job yesterday onthe panel and talking about the differences,
say with the transfer portal and howit relates. And it was a
question I put the sark initially wasbecause, let me tell you, it's
a little bit of a delicate balancewhen you have thirteen coaches on that day,
(06:49):
and we had fourteen yesterday because wehad Craig Bowl, the executive director
of the American Football Coach Association,So we had basically an hour to hear
fourteen coaches and their opinions on things. And you don't want to give too
much time to anyone coach, andyou sure as heck don't want to short
(07:09):
anybody out. I mean, Ithink of guys like coach Walden coming in
from UTEP. He's coming all theway in from l pass on one and
I'm not gonna ask him a question, of course, not, of course
I am and so you try tobalance that out. And I'm happy to
say that all fourteen voices up theregot to answer at least two questions each
(07:29):
in an hour. So it wasit was a little bit of a hustle
and a hustle and all that,but we got it all in and it
worked out fine. But I askedSarak about, you know, the portal
versus high school, and he said, it's really really important them to continue
to make sure that the majority ofthe players that they're recruiting are high school
(07:51):
players. Now I understand where youmight think it might make sense for him
to say that in a room fullof nine hundred high school football coaches,
and it was a vast ballroom therehe was doing it. But he made
a great point in saying, youbuild a relationship over time with those guys.
Are there going to be some areaswhere you have need areas need to
fill in absolutely, And they've donethat, he said, But it's got
(08:15):
to be the base has got tobe the high school thing. Then when
you visit with a G five coachlike an Eric Morris at North Texas or
a Scottie Walden at UTAP or GJ. Kenney at Texas State, sometimes they
have to take a little bit differentlook at it. Coach Kenny, I
thought, did a really good jobof explaining how when he first took over,
(08:39):
there were so many holes, somany gaps, they had to dive
into the portal quickly and try toshore up some of those spots in the
immediacy to have a roster that couldcompete. And they did more than compete,
they did very very well and gotin the school's first ever ballgame.
But he and coach Walden at UTAPand like I said, Coach Keeler at
(09:01):
Sam Houston, you know Coach MorrisonNorth Texas. They all echoed the same
thing that we heard from Sark,that we heard from Mike Elko, that
we heard from also from Sunny Dykes, that the bread and butter, the
meat and potatoes, still has tobe the high school football recruit. You
get those guys as your foundation andyou build from there. We'll be back
(09:22):
to wrap up today's program here onsports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in
the iHeartRadio app
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