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August 12, 2024 14 mins
The Cowboys conversation continues. Plus, Aaron Rodgers regrets this decision according to a new unathorized biography by Ian O'Connor on the outspoken and Super Bowl winning quarterback. 
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we're back to the Craig Way Show.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Have a message for Craig, share it by using the
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well on the text line's messages there for sure.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
To get to.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Earlier our man CV said that there was a four
point seven magnitude earthquake near Pasadena and I was fell
in Los Angeles. Do you think Jordan Whittington has ever
felt an earthquake before?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
CB?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know he didn't have one down in Querol, I
can tell you that, So that might have been another
one of those new experiences for Jordan Whittington for being
in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Haven't we had some sort of earthquakes in Austin the
one just little thing end up in the Dallas for
Worth area with some of what they called the oil
well fracking.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
When they're pushing water down into that to bring up oil,
sometimes it unsettles the earth. It happens a lot in
West Texas, for sure. It happens that way. Somebody said,
never drink the rat poison. I guess they're referring to
the fact that Texas is number four in the preseason rankings.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
But we knew it was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Remember last year they were the preseason choice to win
the Big twelve Conference and you heard Sark saying, we're
not running from anything for them. We know, we know
what our expectation is. We know what we're expecting of ourselves.
We're not worried about what others are expecting of us.
It's what we expect of ourselves. And I think that's

(01:49):
I think that's the attitude that they have been taking
so far in the run up to training camp and
now the training camp workouts, in the fall camp workouts.
I don't think there's any any big shocker mystery there.
And then somebody just speaking of the discussion we had
with regard to the level of fandom that I was

(02:11):
trying to ascertain from Cameron with regard to the Cowboys,
because Cam has said for some time he's not going
to watch them this fall in the regular season. He did,
he did watch some of the game yesterday to see
some individuals and see some development and all that, but
he said once the regular season starting, he's not going
to watch them and will not watch them all the
way up until if they reach the NFC Championship the

(02:34):
Final four. It then and only then is he prepared
to lift the ban? So many texted ed totally get
where Cam is coming from. High expectations every year and
no results. But I still had my blue clown nose
on yesterday and will this season. Okay, that speaks to
two things. One the words high expectations, Like I said,

(02:55):
if you're giving yourself high expectations, you're letting your setting
yourself up for the lockdown. Two he said, but I
put on I still have my blue clown nose on
yesterday and well this season. That's that's what I meant
when I was talking about trying to figure out what
the level of fandom is that you that you root

(03:16):
for him, you get excited for him, get frustrated with him,
blah blah blah, win or lose, but still engaged in
watching them and things like that.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And and there's I'm not saying there's anything wrong with
any level of fandom.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Fans or fans.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
You followed teams at your own reward risk pair or
whatever you want to call it. You do all of that,
that's that your choice as a fan to do that.
I was just trying to figure out, you know, the
kind of level fan. But but I think what you're
echoing is is what a lot of Cowboy fans have echoed,
Like this guy kind of did, even though he said
he's gonna have his blue clown nose on.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Had it on? Is that?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And my son, my oldest son, is in a similar
situation with you, He said, I'm kind of Cameron, but
I'm kind of doing the other thing. I'm not really
caring that much, but I will watch them. But but
I said, well, if you're watching him, then you do
care about Well, yeah, you know, it's kind of but
the point is is that you know, not being too

(04:18):
emotionally engaged into them.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I guess that's the thing because the heartbreak I mean,
I mean going back to I mean, des caught it
right as Cowboys fans, I mean, that was such a
heartbreaking loss. I don't think a lot of us will
ever get over. I mean, there's your book quotes that
have come out still every year from senior in high school.
You know, dees caught it. You know, there's like two

(04:42):
in my high school class and they weren't. That's North Carolina,
you know.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And and by the way, if you believe that and
under today's rules, it would I think it would stand
as a catch, wouldn't it? Yes, it would be a catch, right,
it would be a catch. Then you can't really blame
the Cowboys too much for that.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
No, no, but I'm saying you have that in the
next season.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Of course, Roma gets injured, but Dak and seek and
get the Green Bay and of course Rogers rolling out
to his left in the last second drive and Mason
Crosby with the massive kick at eighteen and T Stadium.
It's just years and years of heartbreak. So okay, Jerry
Dunes finally gets rid of Jason Garrett, brings in Mike McCarthy,
who is fired because Green Bay was for a long

(05:22):
time just stuck in neutral. And that's with one of
the most talented quarterbacks of all time. And you get
to the playoffs and you have these humiliating losses to
San Francisco, and then last season with Green Bay. It's
every year it's the same exact result that the way
it ends, where the team they start out great, they
look good, a great defense, Dak's playing like an MVP,

(05:44):
and then towards the end of the regular season you
kind of realize, Okay, the team just happened to have
peaked in October, in November, and then you get to December,
in January, and they have a weird game, and they
get to the playoffs and they just get out executed,
get outperformed. You have sloppy penalties, you're I mean, if
you're at home hosting a playoff game, you should never
have any preaching at penalties. And the Cowboys had a handful,

(06:08):
have a handful in every single playoff game. That just
speaks to me that this team, it might even just
be a mental mentality now where the Cowboys and the
players are just so used to losing in the playoffs
and and so used to just falling apart that it's
kind of just set in to where just expected, and
so stepping away is more so as kind of a

(06:29):
a protest what don't even call it a protest to
Jerry Jones, but just knowing that, why get myself worked
up over this as a fan because I'm a Cowboys
fan when it's when nothing has changed. Jerry has not
changed his ways ever since that ninety seventh.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Season, Okay, really even ninety six, yeah, ninety six, because
ninety five was the last year that they won that
Super Bowl, Super Bowl thirty and then and.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
He owns the team, you can know what he wants,
but I'm not gonna I'm not going to root for him.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
So you're not going to emotionally invest yourself in it,
is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, even if you want them to win, even if
they won the Super Bowl, I don't think I'll be
able to enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Okay, there's a problem then that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because of how
frustrating it's been for so long.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, but but the whole reason you want to enjoy
it is because you want them to win. So if
they win, why would you then not enjoy.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It because of the way that he has run this
organization for so long. And Jerry wouldn't let us, let
us be able to enjoy it, because he's going to
hold seven thousand press conferences. He's going to speak, and
he's going to talk about how right he was when
he's been wrong the entire time. He's been wrong the
last twenty five years. Everything he's done, he's he's been wrong.

(07:51):
I mean, there's thirty two NFL teams, thirty one teams,
operate completely differently than how the Cowboys operate with having
an owner and a GM and having an owner to
give a press conference. No other team in the NFL
has their owner go out and speak in training camp
except for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And Jerry Jones. And I know he's a GM, but
no other team does that.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
You don't see Robert Kraft holding a press conference.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You don't see, uh, but you do see NFL teams
make their gms available for a press conference.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And Jerry is, after all, the GM, and he's the
only one that's owner GM. There in lies the problem.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, I think I've figured it out finally. Uh what
you just said, I think I finally stumble onto it.
You are emotionally prepared to not enjoy anything any level,
any Super Bowl champion, whatever, any level of accomplishment for
the Dallas Cowboys as long as Jerry.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Jones is the owner.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I mean it depends on I mean most likely yes,
because I don't think he would make the right coaching
high Again. After Mcarthury gets fired the season, I mean
you you you promote Mike Simmer, who you know was
a solid head coach of Minnesota, but I think he
has a ceiling. I mean, I don't know why what
Jerry saw Mike McCarthy when when they had their slumber
party at at Jerry's house, but show my hiring Mike McCarthy.

(09:10):
I knew there that this is it. They're not going
to win a super Bowl as long as Jerry's alive.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Mike McCarthy is something Mike Zimmer does not a Super
Bowl ring to say NFL head coach.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
And that was what like twenty ten, twenty ten, man
fourteen years ago. It's been a long time. Yeah, they
got a certain point. You kind of have to move
past that. You can't start you can't keep relying on
the Super Bowl when that happened fourteen years ago, that
happened with one of the top five quarterbacks of all time.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, So why do you think that Zimmer would be
able to do it?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I don't think you would.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I'm just saying that most likely, I'm I'm guessing that
McCarthy got fired, Zimmer would be the next head coach
without knowing it, You're probably right, most likely, unless somehow Jerry
realizes he's going to have to make a hire someone
like Kyle Shanahan or Mike McDaniel, a coach like that,

(10:02):
an offensive mastermind, a young up I mean coach. But
the coaches that Jerry has hired, you know, outside of
Jason Garrett, you know, like Bill Parcells in McCarthy, he
likes to hire coaches who do have a Super Bowl win.
So and you know, maybe it's Belichick, but you know,
we'll see about that. But it seems like I don't
think Jerry would go after a young, gun, typed coach.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
All right, we were talking about Mike McCarthy, and of course,
when he won the Super Bowl with the Packers, his quarterbacks,
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Did. Do you see what Aaron Rodgers has said?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah? Late, so Rogers now that he's healthy again and
ready to start the season with the Jets, and apparently
he's been barking at Jets teammates when they love them,
when they've not been coming.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Up doing what they're supposed to.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Do, and he now apparently has come out and said
he has one one regret as he is about to
have is soon to be published. Unauthorized biography. An O'Connor

(11:16):
is the author, and remember during the whole COVID nineteen pandemic,
he said you know he was anti vacs and said
he claimed that he was immunized during that come to
find out, not really, And he kind of regrets the

(11:39):
lack of truthfulness in that.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
He said.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
If there's one thing I wish I could have gone different,
it's that, because that's the only thing the critics could
hit me with, he said. He later said when he
was on Pat mcavee that his research showed that he
was allergic to an ingredient.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Called PEG.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's called in the Maderna and the Pfizer vaccines, and
that he was concerned about reports of adverse medical reactions
to the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
And his quote was, but.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
If I could do it again, I said in August
f the appeal, I'm just going to tell him I'm
allergic to PEG. I'm not getting Johnson and Johnson. I'm
not going to be vaxed. The book's going to be
called Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.
He said the statement represented his appeal to the league.
He said, quote, I had an immunization card from my

(12:34):
holistic doctor which looked similar. I wasn't trying to pawn
it off as a vaccine card, but I said, listen,
here's my protocol, here's what you can follow to look
this up. And it was an ongoing appeal. So if
I just said I was unvaccinated in the moment, there's
no chance that the appeal would have been handled the
exact same way. And he was asked if he would

(12:56):
have gotten vaccinated had a local mandate sidelin like the
Kyrie Irving when he was playing for Brooklyn, he said,
I wouldn't have done it.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Wouldn't have done it.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Other new reporting in the book includes new details about
his near decade long estrangement between Rogers and his family,
including interviews with Rogers, his parents, his grandmother, and other relatives.
It includes a purported role in the family dynamics played
by Olivia Munn, the actress his former girlfriend, the story

(13:27):
of the recent first step that he and his father
made toward a potential reconciliation with a brief but meaningful
expressional love last summer.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
So anyway, it goes on and on and on.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh also why Rogers was upset by Packers coach Mike
McCarthy during his most devastating defeat the twenty fourteen NFC
Championship game.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
In Seattle, Rogers.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Wanted to call six plays he had seen on film
that seemed indefensible when the Cowboys had beaten the Seahawks
in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
One veteran Packers player said Rogers wanted.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Those plays called over and over against Seattle, and McCarthy
only called a few of them one time each.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh, the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yes, but he's also the head coach of the football
TV kind of has veto powers.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, but I feel like I trust Aaron Rodgers over
Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Okay, all right, Okay, listen to what just came out
of your mouth.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
On the football, on the football field, anything else. Yeah,
when it comes to like what medicine I should take
for yeah whatever, then yeah, maybe I won't trust Rogers,
but anything with football related, I would trust Rogers over
Mike mccarthur.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Okay, it's good stuff there. Well, that's some baseball.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
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