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August 30, 2024 • 14 mins
Gene Watson, our resident MLB insider and Director of Player Personnel for the Chicago White Sox, joins the show to talk about the latest storylines in baseball including the performances of Kumar Rocker, Jack Leiter, and Jacob DeGrom for the Texas Rangers. Plus, the Houston Astros and Los Angeles Dodgers are making their playoff push.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, I know it's a big football weekend. Clearly, it's
a big football weekend. However, it is very very important
to keep track of what's going on in Major League
Baseball because here it is the last weekend in the
month of August, and we're about to get into the
importance of the pennant races, the wildcard races, and of

(00:22):
course also the division races as well, and there's some
real interesting and fascinating individual things as well. To help
us sort through it. As always, our good friend from
the Chicago White Sox front office is none other than
Gene Watson. Gino. You're such a huge football fan. For
folks who didn't know Geno, who's going to be in

(00:44):
college station for Notre Dame in Texas A and m Noir.
So I know what a big college football fan you are,
and you get grief from your Major League Baseball buddies
about all of this. But I know also that you
have to, by way of profession, keep an eye on
what's going on with baseball. How how different is the
mindset for teams and for guys, for pitchers, catchers, position

(01:06):
players that going now is the calendar turns to September
and getting ready for those postseason chases.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, what's so unique about this season and good afternoon, guys,
is that there's been so much turnover with the pitching
at the major league level. And you look yesterday and
just a high volume of players put on waivers by
teams uh to potentially give those players an opportunity to
get picked up and play in the playoffs. And and

(01:37):
really it's just there's been so many injuries on the
pitching side, and there's been so much turnover. Like you
can turn on a TV one night, a guy's pitching
in Seattle and the next week he's pitching in Miami,
and it's just it's just been crazy with the number
of injuries and attrition to the pitching that that those pitchers,
those veteran relievers especially that are out of options. They

(01:59):
come in and then they help a club for seven
to ten fourteen days, and then they're on waivers and
they're doing it for somebody else. And so that's kind
of been, you know, the way of the world from
a pitching standpoint. Positionally, it's just it's so incredibly hard
to hit right now. There's just there's no knights off anymore.
Every arm is ninety four to ninety seven. Every arm

(02:20):
has a breaking ball. You don't have any of those
fifth starters that are eighty six to ninety two with
the change up. I mean it, it is incredibly hard
to hit. And so really it like right now, it
just turns into a health aspect and really, you know,
giving your app that up for the team and trying
to go out and win every night that you can,

(02:41):
because for a lot of teams that's getting down the
crunch time now.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, So, speaking of pitching pitch pickups for the rosters,
is Rich Hill older than you? I mean, I'm just
kind of wondering about this. This dude is just Methusela.
He keeps turning up and he keeps winding up a
major league rosters and then he keeps pitching effectively. Did

(03:06):
so again for the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, it's really the opportunity. And you look at Johnny
Cuato pitching in LA right now at thirty eight years old.
There's just such a shortage of arms at the major
league level that when you get a guy like Rich
Hill or a guy like Johnny Cuato one, you know
that they're going to know how to make pitches. They're
going to throw strikes. They know how to manipulate the
quadrants from the strike zone, and you know they're going

(03:31):
to be prepared, and you know they're going to compete.
And so in a world where you know it's giving,
it's putting a young kid on the forty man roster
earlier than he probably should be versus, you know, running
a veteran guy out there that you know what you're
going to get. I think the teams are leaning toward
those veteran guys more than anything. Right now.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Let me get your thoughts that we're talking about pitching
and the difference between major league and minor league. Pretty exciting,
I guess for Ranger fans and for that Mattter Round
Rock Express fans to see Kumar Rocker have the type
of outing he had the other night, on the same
night that Yoshinobu Yamamoto was making a rehab start for

(04:11):
the Dodgers for the Oklahoma City Ball Club against round Rock.
It was all at Dell Diamond, and it was a
lot of fun and very entertaining for fans, But first
of all for Rocker and for the Rangers. I mean,
it's a good harbinger for the future, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh my gosh. They've got to be so excited with
the Kumar and Jack Lyder And that was really by
design when you took them out of the draft and
I sat on both of them in twenty twenty one
extensively for the Angels, and you know, Jack has kind
of been what he was, you know, just a well

(04:46):
above average pitch ability guy with a plus breaking ball
and the top of the zone fastball. It's kind of
been a little bit tougher for him to adjust from
the minor leagues to the major league level. But Kumar,
coming out of the draft, there was so much polarizing
opinion on him and what he was going to be.
But he's done such a tremendous job of staying in shape,

(05:08):
and that rehab from Tommy John may have actually been
a blessing for him because the rehab is everything. In
the Tommy John he's an incredible shape. It kind of
gives your mind and body arrest and just to lower
the expectation level. And watching Kumar in the Fall League
two years ago, you could see a different animal and

(05:30):
right now he is very dangerous and ranger Fans for
his disappointing as this season has been. Coming off a
World championship, they should be super excited about next season.
And PS Bruce Boti and San Francisco skipped a year
every year between World championships, so that's something to lean on.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's a good way to think about it for Ranger fans.
Talk at baseball with Geen Watson here on Sports Radio
AM thirteen hundred the zone. You brought up a point
right at the start. I want to go back to it,
and you talked about how difficult it is to hit.
Right Now, here's exhibit A for you last night. Obviously
as a Dodger fan, I watch a lot of their

(06:09):
games and they're playing Baltimore as a great series between
the two and three good ball games, and the Dodgers
I think had fourteen hits in the game. Now, they
while Upony scoring five runs in the contest or six
in the contest, so they held on for the win.
But they had fourteen hits in the ball game. None
of those hits were from shoe Otani none. He was
the only Dodger not to get a hit. Now, this

(06:30):
comes on the heel heels of him getting his forty
second home run and two more stolen bases to get
to forty two. But it's an example of even the
best players can struggle on certain nights and can have
an overnight. Even a guy like Otani.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
No doubt, you know, he's carrying a nine to ninety
ops with forty two bombs. And I think that I
think that when you look at that team and you
go Otani and Bests and Keiky Hernandez and Tommy Edmund
Miguel Rohawk, I think a lot of teams as we
move into you know, early mid September and into October,
I think a lot of teams you're going to see

(07:06):
because Otani just does not chase. He doesn't and I
think that a lot of teams are going to say,
you know what, We're just going to pitch around him
and if he if he walks, he walks, but we're
not going to let him be the guy that beats us.
And that puts a little bit more pressure on Mooki
and Kiki, and so it's going to be interesting to
see how teams tend to navigate through that as the

(07:27):
race comes down to the finish.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
By the way, did you ever have a dog like
Showy's dog decoy to be able to scoop up a
ball off the mound, run the home plate, and drop
and therefore delivering the first pitch of the game. You
ever see a dog do anything like that?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, but that's a whole other level of training. And
it spaks to Tani and the way he goes about
his life too.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
No doubt about it. Gino, I want to get your
thoughts on some crucial series this weekend. One of them
began in Houston last night with the Astros beating the
Royals and what an incredible season. Kansas City a ball
club that you and and your your staff and a
lot of the guys helped put together there in Kansas City. Uh,

(08:10):
they dropped the opener last night, but they get ready
with Seth Lugo against frommer Valdez tonight. That's a one
that is one huge series. Uh. The other one, obviously
is Los Angeles in Arizona. It's a weekend wrap around
four game series Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Those are
two huge series, I think, and there's other important ones

(08:33):
as well. Uh, but that certainly those two come to mind.
How about that. Let's start off with Kansas City in Houston.
Get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, I'll be out there tonight. I'm gonna go out
and see the boys that I haven't seen really since
I left Kansas City. So we're really looking forward to
going out there and spending some time with them, uh again.
And we've set up, you know, in weeks past, like
minute May Park. I don't think people realize how difficult
it is to go into that ballpark and win. Is

(09:00):
the environment is second to none, the music, Bob Ford
on the mic, It's just it's an incredibly difficult place
to play. And while the Royals you know, are a
playoff team right now, I think that they strive to
be more. And this is a statement series. And while
if you come out of it, you know you're you're
you're still you know, you're in the playoffs, and you

(09:22):
you strive to do more in October. But I think
that just like they did going into Cleveland and taking
three out of four, I think they're trying to prove
the longevity of this club and the and the you know,
how real that they believe they are. And so this
is a big series for them. If they don't you know,
if they don't win and all there. They're still going
to be in pretty good shape, but they're trying to
get through a gauntlet of a schedule. We're seventeen out

(09:44):
of twenty or first or second place teams. And the
huge blow last night with Vinnie pas Patino hurting is
his wrist and Lucas Ersak getting hit in the hand
with the ball. You know that's got a lingering effect
potentially from Morales standpoint. But I do think this is
an incredibly big series to continue to prove to the
industry that you are a real playoff contending team. And

(10:08):
you know, I don't think I've talked about anything more
this week than what a tremendous, tremendous job the Houston
Astros have done to go to seventh straight American League
Championship series. You're working on potentially number eight in an
environment what look at Texas they win the World Championship
and they're nine and a half out now a year later.

(10:30):
It's just for your crew core group to have the
mental mindset that they've had and then to bring in
the complimentary players around them that just where the expectation
drive the results. And I compare what the Astros are
doing right now to the late nineties early two thousands
of New York Yankees, where you know there was just

(10:51):
this level of expectation that was not going to be compromised.
And that's what Jim Crane and Dana Brown have created
in Houston. It's incredible. So I think Kansas City would
really like to go in there and maybe not win
every game, but play extremely good baseball throughout the weekend.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
They had other big series I mentioned Los Angeles at Arizona.
They start a four game series tonight at Chasefield. The
Dodgers are up four games on the Diamondbacks and it's
Clayton Kershaw against Zach Gallon on the mound to naight.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, and you know Arizona they are four out and
this is a chance and they did it last year.
This is a chance. They won seven of their last ten.
This is a chance for them to do what they
did last year and make that late push. And and
you know they're they're going to be in the playoffs. Potentially,
they're they're three up in the wild Card. But again,
another statement series to show the Dodgers that you know,

(11:40):
even if you don't win the series, if you split it,
to let them know that, hey, it's not going to
be as easy in October as you think. And and
they've kind of for you know, they kind of hold
the advantage because of going to the World Series last
year and how late this series is this year. I
feel like that Arizona could cut this thing in happen
the rest of the way. Anything could happen. So if
going to be a great series.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
The Mets come off taking two of three from the
Diamondbacks in Arizona, they play your ball club weekend series
in Chicago. Here are the Mets. I asked you a
couple of weeks ago, are they a contender for a wildcard?
And you said yes, but they're kind of on the fringe.
And that's what it looks like two weeks later. Right
now they're three games back of that final wildcard spot,
chasing Atlanta and and even your crosstown pals, the Chicago

(12:22):
Cubs are five games back. Cardinals had a good series
against Podreser six back, even the Giants six and a half.
I mean, there's still time and still hope in this
day and age of the wildcard race, isn't it no question?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
But they got to beat the Braves when they play them.
They've they've got to narrow that gap, and you got
to hope that Arizona and San Diego when they play,
that they don't split those games. You got to hope
that one or the other beats the other significantly. And
that's how you pull back in this thing. And I mean,
the Cubs have just kind of, you know, been back
and forth all season long, and here they are on

(12:53):
August thirty. It's five games out. They've won seven of
their last ten, three in a row, and it's just
like it's crazy to think for every thing that they've
been through, they're two good weeks away from being a
wild card team. And so I think that the head
to head, they've got to hope that that San Diego
and Arizona when they play, that that one team beats
the other significantly. They've got to take care of the

(13:14):
Braves when they play them, and they got to keep
continuing to play the baseball that they played the last
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Baltimore is only a game and a half back of
the Yankees in the division race, and they're on top
of the wildcard race. Like I said, there was three
hard fought games against Los Angeles. The Orioles took one
of the three. You still see them as a real
viable contender to win the East.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, very much, so, very much. So it's going to
be you know, the Yankees are going to have to
continue to hit. They've they've got a young kid, Will
Warren that's going to have to has it pitched especially well.
That they're going to need to, you know, have a
good month and and really anchor that that starting rotation.
But Baltimore and that ballpark, they're just so dangerous. They
just they just hit, and they they've kind of learned

(13:56):
how to play well together collectively. So it's it's going
to be a great race.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Final thing, final thing here, Gina. You're going to be
at Notre Dame, Texas A and M tomorrow evening. Will
a camera, a television camera catch you in the stands, hands,
arms on fellow aggie, shoulder swaying back and forth. Will
the camera catch you doing that tomorrow night?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
There's a zero percent chance of that. And the other
thing that I would say is that the our tickets
are so far up, I may see if I can
ride in a Goodyear blimp to be closer to the stadium.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, Hey, listen at Fun the Night, Safe Travels over
the Brases Valley tomorrow, and we'll do it again next week.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
All right, Greig, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That's Geene Watson from the Chicago White Six of GINO
is a big Notre Dame fan at a big University
of Texas fan, so that's why I was kidding him
about there being at Kyle Field. All Right, we're gonna
hear more from coaches, aren't coming up when we continue
on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone
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