September 17, 2024 • 17 mins
Greg Tepper, the managing editor of Dave Campbells Texas Football, joins the show for his weekly appearance to discuss the quarterback situations in Austin and College Football and his takeaways from across the Lone Star State. Then, Craig and Tep look at Week 4's slate of High School Football including College Station vs Consol.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Move onward.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We move on to on this Texan Tuesday to talk
to some college and high school football across the state
of Texas. Craig Tappers and managing editor of Dave Campbell's
Texas football magazine Apropos A very little. But I was
looking at this tep. Have you ever noticed the artwork
that is done to describe the TEP and step podcast
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that you do at Texas Football dot Com.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Have you ever noticed that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I have, I've paid a little bit of attention to it.
Why in particular are you bringing up, Craig.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I mean, I you know, I don't know. I mean,
this is just me. I you know, I just think
that you you in that picture that it's done with you,
as you call it, the nerd cast. Your picture kind
of looks like Bobby Hill from King of the Hill.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I've I've I've been accused a number of times looking
like various different cartoon characters Bobby Hill, Fred Flintstone, et cetera.
The thing that always like points out to me is
like for Matt step whenever we got that artist to
do that caricature, it was they really hit Step really well,
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where it was like.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh, he's got the he's got the goatee, he's got
the backwards hat.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
He really looks like step And for me, they're just like, yeah,
this guy's defining characteristic as a widow's peak, Like we
are really going to hammer.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Home that widow's peak.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And so you know, when you're right, you're right. Who
am I to argue with art? I mean I noticed that,
and then I noticed the winner's peak. But then also
the the facial expression kind of looks like Bobby Hill
a little bit. That's what That's what I've been. That's
true enough. What took you, I don't know, by surprise
(01:59):
is the proper phraseology. What raised your eyebrows the most
about college football? First involving the state of Texas, and
we'll get the high school football in a minute. What from
the college scene raised your eyebrows the highest when you
examined the landscape of college football in the lone star
state last weekend?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think that it would probably be what happened in
Gainesville with Texas A and M's performance in Florida, not necessarily,
I mean, Florida looks pretty listless really, to be quite honest,
I don't think that they put up much of a fight,
and I think that BILLI Napier's probably, you know, updating
his resume as we speak. But I thought, especially Marcel
(02:43):
Reid coming in and stepping in for Connor Wegman, I
think we all expected there to be kind of a
drop off in production. And really, all he's done is
spark his own little quarterback controversy down there in College Station.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And what's so interesting And Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Craven wrote a great pe on Texas Football dot Com
about this this week about how there.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
There are kind of two quote unquote quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Controversies now going on at both of the flagship institutions
of the state of Texas, both in College Station and
in Austin. And the interesting thing is that both of
those teams kind of face a similar situation in the
sense that you've got an incumbent starter who is banged
up right now, and you now have a backup who's
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come in and proven themselves to be certainly worth their
metal and certainly worth consideration. And the perhaps the whether
you want to call it getting wally pipped or whatever
you want to call it, the schedule sets up for
both of them that you don't got to rush the
starter back. You don't have to with Quinn years, you
don't have to run him back to play Ulm. And
then probably not Mississippi State. You just got done getting
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torched by Toledo, and then an open day before before
red River, Texas A and M kind of in a
similar situation where they've got Bowling Green at home this
week shouldn't be a problem. Bawling Green gave you know,
Penn State a run, but I think you should feel
pretty good about that. And then home and then taking
on Arkansas. You know Arkansas. I mean, who knows what
they're going to be. They're they're in such similar situations.
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I still think that when healthy, I think Wigman has
the higher upside. But I certainly understand the people who
saw Marcel read and said, yeah, I'd like to sign
up for more of that. So I think I think
his performance and just how in control he looked was
probably the thing that caught me most by surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, interesting as well, and then I guess, uh, the.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Alarm and not alarmed thing.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let me let me get your thoughts on some of
the other teams that Houston kind of got well at
Rice's expense.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Uh you have you mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It was really really really important for Texas Tech to
handle their business, and they really really did it. They
blasted North Texas out of the South planes. And then
there's TCU, which is a twin eight seven lead on UCF,
and somehow that thing slipped through their fingers.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I read somewhere that somebody said, yeah, coach on I
thirty five is gonna get fired. I just thought it
was gonna be I thirty five E instead of I
thirty five W.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Sure enough, you know, with you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Know, sunny dykes.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean, that's that's not that's that's the disappointing loss,
especially at home to a UCF team.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You really did have dead to rights, and for them
to kind of cough it up like that, I thought
was particularly disappointing. What's interesting for me is that like
this TCU team feels like kind of the antithesis of
that title game team. What I mean by that is
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the story of what I will always remember about twenty
twenty two twenty three TCU team is that all their
worker bees, all of their nuts and bolts guys were
so rock solid. They were so good. The star power
was great, Quentin Johnston fantastic. Obviously the playmakers they had,
but it was really to me it was the nuts
and bolts guys that made them made them matter this time.
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I do think that actually the skill talent, at least
at quarterback and at receiver is still pretty darn strong,
but all the nuts and bolts guys have kind of
been left, like been left leaveing them hanging, and that's
kind of what cost.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Them against against the UCF.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And then you know, you mentioned Texa Tech, a real
get right gaming at North Texas's expense, they look great.
And then unfortunately, you know, for Rice fans, the Bayu
bucket did not go the same way it did last year.
You know, the Bayu bucket, I think really, to me,
last year signaled the end of the Dana Holgerson experiment
that was.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Really probably faded complete.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
After that, you can't lose the Rice, really Fritz at
least getting on the good foot, I do think, unfortunately
it may end up starting the decline of the guy
on the other sideline with Mike Bloomgren, who I know,
new athletic director down there at Rice, who wants to
who wants to maybe shake some things up at the
Bell maybe tolling for mister Bloomgreen.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You're pretty soon talking football here in the lone Star
State with Greg Chapper, managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine. All right, let's shift to high school. I'm
gonna jump right on in with this six A pole.
You sat on Friday night after the impressive win for
a task Asta over West Like following their impressive win
over Katie, you said there were gonna be a problem
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in terms of your rankings for the six A. I
look at your rankings. It didn't look like it was
that big a problem. They move on one spot, and
what are you gonna do with them anyway?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
With the ones ahead of them winning.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Our friend Jerry Forrest in the computer he thinks Summer
Creek is the best six A team in the state.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I thought that was interesting too, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And one of the things about the computer rankings I
like to reset every once in a while is that
the computer rankings really value dominance. They really value going
out there and just beating the tar out of teams.
And no team in America has done that better than
Summer Creek. Yeah, for three weeks, I think outscoring opponents
one hundred and fifty six to.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Nothing that will do it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but a task asta.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I think that you're they are kind of of they're
kind of a victim of like, well, what are you going.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
To do when everyone above you kind of looks pretty
good as well?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I mean of the of the teams, the seven teams
ahead of them, you know, the team right in front of.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Them would be is Lake Travis. Right now we have
at number seven.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
All Lake Travis did was go be a pretty darn
good Midland Legacy team by three touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, there are.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
On a bus ride exactly right out to the Premier basin.
You know Southlake Carol looked really good against Byron Nelson.
You know Desto really got right against corpus Chrissy Miller
is one of those things where if any of those
teams had shown any sort of weakness, you can make
an argument that the team that showed the most weekends
with number one to Duncanville where they kind of struggled
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with a team from Maryland but ended up winning.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So it's they're in kind.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of that weird spot of like we're kind of waiting
for a spot to open up. We haven't forgotten about
you a task a Sita because I got into an
argument with some folks on especially DFW folks online this
week where I kind of said what I said to
you on Scoreboard, which is that I think Task is
a test. SEDA rather has the best resume in Texas
high school football right now. I agree, And people are saying,
what about North Crowley? And I'm a big fan of
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North Crowley, love what they've got going. They have the
single best win in Texas high school football so far
this season, that win over Soto. But if we're stacking
a ball six wins for those two teams, win number
two is in some order Katie or Westlake and win
number three is the other one.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So right now, the resume I think benefits the Task Sea.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
The good thing for them is that at number eight
and with two teams that are in their own district
that are still ranked ahead of them, they will have plenty.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Of opportunities to rise up the rankings. It would be.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Another thing if like this is the last good team
they were playing, But for now, like you know, for
a test, there's still mountains to climb, and they've got
even at number eight, you make an argument they're underrated.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
How do you evaluate and and in consultation with staff
and the other guys, how do you evaluate that Uncanville victory.
I know it's difficult because it's an out of state team,
and we all tend to be I'm as guilty as
you are, as others are to We all tend to
be a little jingoistic and xenophobic about Texas high school
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football as it relates to the rest of the nation.
I get it, I understand. I understand that I also
have heard this Saint Francis team. I kept referring to
him as Saint Francis of a CC. You know, I
could remember there was Saint Francis Maryland as a team
that is loaded with Division one talent. In fact, I
had it described to me that they're a legal version
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of Bishop Sycamore, you know, that kind of thing. But
we see that with modern day and we see that
with IMG, and we see that with some of the
other big time programs, travel teams, if you will. So
how do you evaluate that Duncanville win against that group?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And so what we tend to do or try to do,
especially when it's high profile game, there's a lot of team,
there's a lot of you know state Texas versus non
Texas teams or games rather that just end up not
being very interesting for bear or worse.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know, teams like Canadian plays a team.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
From Oklahoma I every single year, you know, teams up there,
and you know the Red River are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Playing team from Olahoma all time.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
With these high profile games, what we like to do
is look at a variety of.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Different national rankings.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I don't have a ton of use for national rankings
as far as high school fooball is concerned.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Because I think that the rules make it so it's
apples and oranges. But look at that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And then try to kind of triangulate where they would
rank it as far as a high school football team
in Texas is concerned. So, for example, if you take
a look at the Saint Francis team out of Maryland,
one of the teams that we started seeing, you'll see
rankings of them somewhere in like the twenty to thirty
range as far as nationally is concerned. Another team you'll
see in the twenty to thirty range is a Task Casida.
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And so it's like, okay, if we just want to
make it kind of you know, very loose put that
together and then you would just say, hey, Duncan will
beat a task to see the twenty at twenty four,
we'd say, that's a really nice win. We try to
you kind of have to make your own You have
to build your own kind of you know, measuring stick here. Ultimately,
if you want my the god z as truth, it's
kind of pass fail. It's like, if you go out
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there and win the game, We're not going to ask
too many questions.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We're just going to put in the win call.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
If you go out there and lose, that's or or
you struggle significantly, then we will kind of dive into
kind of the why behind it and try to make a.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Best judgment based on those metrics.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But it is it's hard to tell simply because those teams,
you know, that team from Maryland doesn't play by the
same rules that.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Duncan Bille does. And also they'd get on a plane
and dunkle.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So it's it's it's it's it's hard to judge, and
those are some of the hardest cases we end up getting.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, each week, we wind up asking each other on
a respective shows to choose between three games. I gotta
tell you, I think it's an exercise and futility this week.
I mean, I yes, we could say south Lake Carol
and Euless Trinity. We could say Westlake at Sibyl o' steele.
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We could we could do that. We could go to
the lower classifications and pick a game or two.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But really and truly, really and truly, is there.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
A more meaningful game than A and M consolidated against
College Station.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nope, that's it. That's number one. That's it, that's the one.
It is the biggest game of the week.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, it is the biggest game in College Station brought
the Brasses Valley. Obviously, it is dripping with intrigue and
am consolidated coming off of their kind of heart stopping
win over Fluerville.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Weis last week with Cameron Parker on the call, was.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They can more or less they're still land mines down
the road, but they can at least put themselves firmly
in the driver's seat and buckle the seatbelt for the
district title.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I they can come out with a win.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But the the absolute most amazing thing is that College
is that AAM Contalida has been playing football since nineteen
thirty six. College Station has been playing football since twenty fourteen,
and College Station.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Has never lost to AEM Consolidated.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Consol is zero to six against College Station, which is
just it's one of the most like it's a shocking number. Now,
the thing is, the game's always close. I think we
looked it up. The average margin in these games is
like a touchdown. Basically, it's gonna be close, it's gonna
be fantastic, and it's going to be just a wild
scene at tiger Land Stadium. I am absolutely fascinated to
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see if A ANDM Consolidated can find a way to
pull the special teams.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
In defense rabbit out of their hat again, because they've
done it every single week. They've come up with those
big plays on defense and on special teams to really
flip the game. And that's the big question in this one.
Can they find it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think they'll need it against a College Station team
that does look pretty pretty balanced and especially defensively, looks
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But this is the game of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
This is I think this is it's rare that you
can really pinpoint one game and.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Say that's absolutely the most intriguing game in the state.
But but I think this is one of.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Those weeks, especially if people don't know Week four and
Week six or the two really big open dates, really
big bye weeks, and so there's a lot of teams
that are off this week, but there's no shorts of
great games, and Consoling College stations number one of them.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I mean it's not like Carthage and Chapel Hill
is chop Liver.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I mean that. Yeah, it's a good match up. You know,
it's just.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Those things where if it was a district game, the
juice would be out of control on that game, but
because it's a non district game, there's a little bit
of intrigue.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Carthage, like you know, the long national nightmare in Panola
County is over.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
They snapped their two game losing streak and finally got
to win. Scott Start figured it out. Who would have thought.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
But they're more importantly their offense really got going last week.
And if their offense is going to look like that
every week, then then four A Division two is going
to be in for a world or herd.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's Greg Tepper, managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Follow him on the X Slash, Twitter, whatever, at Temper
and I'll join him and Aaron Hartigan on Friday night
on the set for High School Scoreboard Live.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Hey, good of visit with you. I look forward to Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Absolutely, happy late birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Buddy, Thank you, thank you. That was.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That was I got a kick out of your your
tweet the other day about that Alcoholic magazine photo of
me ies bugging out, and you said, that's going to
be me calling on.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
By the way, I do want to mention that as
somebody who listened.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
To the entirety of your radio call.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I thought as a Texas high school, as somebody who's
there essentially only for the Texas High school football references.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I came away very satisfied.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think I littered it with the references. It got
late early, loaded him down early. All right, Hey, I
thank you, TEP. We'll see you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All right, take care, guys.
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Got out of hand. So yeah, there's plenty of room
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To be a lot of references on that. But that's okay,
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Move onward.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We move on to on this Texan Tuesday to talk
to some college and high school football across the state
of Texas. Craig Tappers and managing editor of Dave Campbell's
Texas football magazine Apropos A very little. But I was
looking at this tep. Have you ever noticed the artwork
that is done to describe the TEP and step podcast
(00:26):
that you do at Texas Football dot Com.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Have you ever noticed that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I have, I've paid a little bit of attention to it.
Why in particular are you bringing up, Craig.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I mean, I you know, I don't know. I mean,
this is just me. I you know, I just think
that you you in that picture that it's done with you,
as you call it, the nerd cast. Your picture kind
of looks like Bobby Hill from King of the Hill.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I've I've I've been accused a number of times looking
like various different cartoon characters Bobby Hill, Fred Flintstone, et cetera.
The thing that always like points out to me is
like for Matt step whenever we got that artist to
do that caricature, it was they really hit Step really well,
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where it was like.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh, he's got the he's got the goatee, he's got
the backwards hat.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
He really looks like step And for me, they're just like, yeah,
this guy's defining characteristic as a widow's peak, Like we
are really going to hammer.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Home that widow's peak.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And so you know, when you're right, you're right. Who
am I to argue with art? I mean I noticed that,
and then I noticed the winner's peak. But then also
the the facial expression kind of looks like Bobby Hill
a little bit. That's what That's what I've been. That's
true enough. What took you, I don't know, by surprise
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is the proper phraseology. What raised your eyebrows the most
about college football? First involving the state of Texas, and
we'll get the high school football in a minute. What from
the college scene raised your eyebrows the highest when you
examined the landscape of college football in the lone star
state last weekend?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think that it would probably be what happened in
Gainesville with Texas A and M's performance in Florida, not necessarily,
I mean, Florida looks pretty listless really, to be quite honest,
I don't think that they put up much of a fight,
and I think that BILLI Napier's probably, you know, updating
his resume as we speak. But I thought, especially Marcel
(02:43):
Reid coming in and stepping in for Connor Wegman, I
think we all expected there to be kind of a
drop off in production. And really, all he's done is
spark his own little quarterback controversy down there in College Station.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And what's so interesting And Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Craven wrote a great pe on Texas Football dot Com
about this this week about how there.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
There are kind of two quote unquote quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Controversies now going on at both of the flagship institutions
of the state of Texas, both in College Station and
in Austin. And the interesting thing is that both of
those teams kind of face a similar situation in the
sense that you've got an incumbent starter who is banged
up right now, and you now have a backup who's
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come in and proven themselves to be certainly worth their
metal and certainly worth consideration. And the perhaps the whether
you want to call it getting wally pipped or whatever
you want to call it, the schedule sets up for
both of them that you don't got to rush the
starter back. You don't have to with Quinn years, you
don't have to run him back to play Ulm. And
then probably not Mississippi State. You just got done getting
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torched by Toledo, and then an open day before before
red River, Texas A and M kind of in a
similar situation where they've got Bowling Green at home this
week shouldn't be a problem. Bawling Green gave you know,
Penn State a run, but I think you should feel
pretty good about that. And then home and then taking
on Arkansas. You know Arkansas. I mean, who knows what
they're going to be. They're they're in such similar situations.
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I still think that when healthy, I think Wigman has
the higher upside. But I certainly understand the people who
saw Marcel read and said, yeah, I'd like to sign
up for more of that. So I think I think
his performance and just how in control he looked was
probably the thing that caught me most by surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, interesting as well, and then I guess, uh, the.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Alarm and not alarmed thing.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let me let me get your thoughts on some of
the other teams that Houston kind of got well at
Rice's expense.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Uh you have you mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It was really really really important for Texas Tech to
handle their business, and they really really did it. They
blasted North Texas out of the South planes. And then
there's TCU, which is a twin eight seven lead on UCF,
and somehow that thing slipped through their fingers.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I read somewhere that somebody said, yeah, coach on I
thirty five is gonna get fired. I just thought it
was gonna be I thirty five E instead of I
thirty five W.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Sure enough, you know, with you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Know, sunny dykes.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean, that's that's not that's that's the disappointing loss,
especially at home to a UCF team.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You really did have dead to rights, and for them
to kind of cough it up like that, I thought
was particularly disappointing. What's interesting for me is that like
this TCU team feels like kind of the antithesis of
that title game team. What I mean by that is
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the story of what I will always remember about twenty
twenty two twenty three TCU team is that all their
worker bees, all of their nuts and bolts guys were
so rock solid. They were so good. The star power
was great, Quentin Johnston fantastic. Obviously the playmakers they had,
but it was really to me it was the nuts
and bolts guys that made them made them matter this time.
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I do think that actually the skill talent, at least
at quarterback and at receiver is still pretty darn strong,
but all the nuts and bolts guys have kind of
been left, like been left leaveing them hanging, and that's
kind of what cost.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Them against against the UCF.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And then you know, you mentioned Texa Tech, a real
get right gaming at North Texas's expense, they look great.
And then unfortunately, you know, for Rice fans, the Bayu
bucket did not go the same way it did last year.
You know, the Bayu bucket, I think really, to me,
last year signaled the end of the Dana Holgerson experiment
that was.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Really probably faded complete.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
After that, you can't lose the Rice, really Fritz at
least getting on the good foot, I do think, unfortunately
it may end up starting the decline of the guy
on the other sideline with Mike Bloomgren, who I know,
new athletic director down there at Rice, who wants to
who wants to maybe shake some things up at the
Bell maybe tolling for mister Bloomgreen.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You're pretty soon talking football here in the lone Star
State with Greg Chapper, managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine. All right, let's shift to high school. I'm
gonna jump right on in with this six A pole.
You sat on Friday night after the impressive win for
a task Asta over West Like following their impressive win
over Katie, you said there were gonna be a problem
(07:19):
in terms of your rankings for the six A. I
look at your rankings. It didn't look like it was
that big a problem. They move on one spot, and
what are you gonna do with them anyway?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
With the ones ahead of them winning.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Our friend Jerry Forrest in the computer he thinks Summer
Creek is the best six A team in the state.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I thought that was interesting too, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And one of the things about the computer rankings I
like to reset every once in a while is that
the computer rankings really value dominance. They really value going
out there and just beating the tar out of teams.
And no team in America has done that better than
Summer Creek. Yeah, for three weeks, I think outscoring opponents
one hundred and fifty six to.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Nothing that will do it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, but a task asta.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I think that you're they are kind of of they're
kind of a victim of like, well, what are you going.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
To do when everyone above you kind of looks pretty
good as well?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I mean of the of the teams, the seven teams
ahead of them, you know, the team right in front of.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Them would be is Lake Travis. Right now we have
at number seven.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
All Lake Travis did was go be a pretty darn
good Midland Legacy team by three touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, there are.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
On a bus ride exactly right out to the Premier basin.
You know Southlake Carol looked really good against Byron Nelson.
You know Desto really got right against corpus Chrissy Miller
is one of those things where if any of those
teams had shown any sort of weakness, you can make
an argument that the team that showed the most weekends
with number one to Duncanville where they kind of struggled
(08:45):
with a team from Maryland but ended up winning.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So it's they're in kind.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of that weird spot of like we're kind of waiting
for a spot to open up. We haven't forgotten about
you a task a Sita because I got into an
argument with some folks on especially DFW folks online this
week where I kind of said what I said to
you on Scoreboard, which is that I think Task is
a test. SEDA rather has the best resume in Texas
high school football right now. I agree, And people are saying,
what about North Crowley? And I'm a big fan of
(09:10):
North Crowley, love what they've got going. They have the
single best win in Texas high school football so far
this season, that win over Soto. But if we're stacking
a ball six wins for those two teams, win number
two is in some order Katie or Westlake and win
number three is the other one.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So right now, the resume I think benefits the Task Sea.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
The good thing for them is that at number eight
and with two teams that are in their own district
that are still ranked ahead of them, they will have plenty.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Of opportunities to rise up the rankings. It would be.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Another thing if like this is the last good team
they were playing, But for now, like you know, for
a test, there's still mountains to climb, and they've got
even at number eight, you make an argument they're underrated.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
How do you evaluate and and in consultation with staff
and the other guys, how do you evaluate that Uncanville victory.
I know it's difficult because it's an out of state team,
and we all tend to be I'm as guilty as
you are, as others are to We all tend to
be a little jingoistic and xenophobic about Texas high school
(10:14):
football as it relates to the rest of the nation.
I get it, I understand. I understand that I also
have heard this Saint Francis team. I kept referring to
him as Saint Francis of a CC. You know, I
could remember there was Saint Francis Maryland as a team
that is loaded with Division one talent. In fact, I
had it described to me that they're a legal version
(10:35):
of Bishop Sycamore, you know, that kind of thing. But
we see that with modern day and we see that
with IMG, and we see that with some of the
other big time programs, travel teams, if you will. So
how do you evaluate that Duncanville win against that group?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And so what we tend to do or try to do,
especially when it's high profile game, there's a lot of team,
there's a lot of you know state Texas versus non
Texas teams or games rather that just end up not
being very interesting for bear or worse.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know, teams like Canadian plays a team.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
From Oklahoma I every single year, you know, teams up there,
and you know the Red River are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Playing team from Olahoma all time.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
With these high profile games, what we like to do
is look at a variety of.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Different national rankings.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I don't have a ton of use for national rankings
as far as high school fooball is concerned.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Because I think that the rules make it so it's
apples and oranges. But look at that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And then try to kind of triangulate where they would
rank it as far as a high school football team
in Texas is concerned. So, for example, if you take
a look at the Saint Francis team out of Maryland,
one of the teams that we started seeing, you'll see
rankings of them somewhere in like the twenty to thirty
range as far as nationally is concerned. Another team you'll
see in the twenty to thirty range is a Task Casida.
(11:54):
And so it's like, okay, if we just want to
make it kind of you know, very loose put that
together and then you would just say, hey, Duncan will
beat a task to see the twenty at twenty four,
we'd say, that's a really nice win. We try to
you kind of have to make your own You have
to build your own kind of you know, measuring stick here. Ultimately,
if you want my the god z as truth, it's
kind of pass fail. It's like, if you go out
(12:16):
there and win the game, We're not going to ask
too many questions.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We're just going to put in the win call.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
If you go out there and lose, that's or or
you struggle significantly, then we will kind of dive into
kind of the why behind it and try to make a.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Best judgment based on those metrics.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But it is it's hard to tell simply because those teams,
you know, that team from Maryland doesn't play by the
same rules that.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Duncan Bille does. And also they'd get on a plane
and dunkle.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So it's it's it's it's it's hard to judge, and
those are some of the hardest cases we end up getting.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, each week, we wind up asking each other on
a respective shows to choose between three games. I gotta
tell you, I think it's an exercise and futility this week.
I mean, I yes, we could say south Lake Carol
and Euless Trinity. We could say Westlake at Sibyl o' steele.
(13:05):
We could we could do that. We could go to
the lower classifications and pick a game or two.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But really and truly, really and truly, is there.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
A more meaningful game than A and M consolidated against
College Station.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nope, that's it. That's number one. That's it, that's the one.
It is the biggest game of the week.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh, it is the biggest game in College Station brought
the Brasses Valley. Obviously, it is dripping with intrigue and
am consolidated coming off of their kind of heart stopping
win over Fluerville.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Weis last week with Cameron Parker on the call, was.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They can more or less they're still land mines down
the road, but they can at least put themselves firmly
in the driver's seat and buckle the seatbelt for the
district title.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I they can come out with a win.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But the the absolute most amazing thing is that College
is that AAM Contalida has been playing football since nineteen
thirty six. College Station has been playing football since twenty fourteen,
and College Station.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Has never lost to AEM Consolidated.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Consol is zero to six against College Station, which is
just it's one of the most like it's a shocking number. Now,
the thing is, the game's always close. I think we
looked it up. The average margin in these games is
like a touchdown. Basically, it's gonna be close, it's gonna
be fantastic, and it's going to be just a wild
scene at tiger Land Stadium. I am absolutely fascinated to
(14:33):
see if A ANDM Consolidated can find a way to
pull the special teams.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
In defense rabbit out of their hat again, because they've
done it every single week. They've come up with those
big plays on defense and on special teams to really
flip the game. And that's the big question in this one.
Can they find it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think they'll need it against a College Station team
that does look pretty pretty balanced and especially defensively, looks
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But this is the game of the week.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
This is I think this is it's rare that you
can really pinpoint one game and.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Say that's absolutely the most intriguing game in the state.
But but I think this is one of.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Those weeks, especially if people don't know Week four and
Week six or the two really big open dates, really
big bye weeks, and so there's a lot of teams
that are off this week, but there's no shorts of
great games, and Consoling College stations number one of them.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I mean it's not like Carthage and Chapel Hill
is chop Liver.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I mean that. Yeah, it's a good match up. You know,
it's just.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Those things where if it was a district game, the
juice would be out of control on that game, but
because it's a non district game, there's a little bit
of intrigue.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Carthage, like you know, the long national nightmare in Panola
County is over.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
They snapped their two game losing streak and finally got
to win. Scott Start figured it out. Who would have thought.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
But they're more importantly their offense really got going last week.
And if their offense is going to look like that
every week, then then four A Division two is going
to be in for a world or herd.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He's Greg Tepper, managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Follow him on the X Slash, Twitter, whatever, at Temper
and I'll join him and Aaron Hartigan on Friday night
on the set for High School Scoreboard Live.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Hey, good of visit with you. I look forward to Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Absolutely, happy late birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Buddy, Thank you, thank you. That was.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That was I got a kick out of your your
tweet the other day about that Alcoholic magazine photo of
me ies bugging out, and you said, that's going to
be me calling on.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
By the way, I do want to mention that as
somebody who listened.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
To the entirety of your radio call.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I thought as a Texas high school, as somebody who's
there essentially only for the Texas High school football references.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I came away very satisfied.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think I littered it with the references. It got
late early, loaded him down early. All right, Hey, I
thank you, TEP. We'll see you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All right, take care, guys.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
All right, that's Greig Tiffer Dave Campill's Texas Football Magazine
Friday night. On the show, he said, keep an eye,
he says, be sure to tune into the Texas broadcast
for Texas. It gets to UTSA to see how many
times Greig wave references a Texas high school football product
on that and you were right next to me in
the booth on that deal because the game.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Got out of hand. So yeah, there's plenty of room
for that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And on the telecast, I mean, on the show Friday Night,
I said, do not make it a drinking game, because
I knew it was going.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
To be a lot of references on that. But that's okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We're going to hear some more Logward conversations coming up
on sports Radio AM thirteen
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Under the zone of the iHeartRadio app.
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