September 17, 2024 • 11 mins
Craig Way starts Hour 3 with a trip down memory lane and looks back on the 1994 and 1995 Texas Longhorns football season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here for the final hour of the program, Glad to
have You with Us. We roll on with the final
hour of the program here on sports Radio AM thirteen
hundred The Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Glad to have You with Us.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Greig Wady joined by the producer Cameron Parker Hey programming
note for you tomorrow. Tomorrow, Cameron won't be here because
he'll be over at Pluckers as we get ready for
Longhorn Weekly with Coach sarg So that's going on tomorrow.
(00:31):
So you'll be over there Pluckers getting ready for that,
right you got miss me, Yes, But then I'll see
you Pluckers.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Everything be. He'll be with Andrew Simble, so that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I've got some other things that are other appointment
things that are going on with us and with the
radio station. So you'll hear me on the show tomorrow.
You're gonna hear me kind of in and out at
points Tomorrow. Tomorrow is just kind of a one off situation,
but you'll hear me. I'll be on, but you'll also
quite a bit of Andrew Zimmo, and you'll hear from
(01:02):
Long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkesia because tomorrow is SEC
teleconference day, the conference call, and so you'll hear from
the long wrns head football coach speaking of the long worns.
We'll hear coming up in a few minutes, three more
members of this long worn football team that stand at
three and oh, Cameron, nobody's taking notice of the fact
(01:25):
they're halfway to bowl eligibility. Ooh, it's hard to even
say that with a straight thing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Save well three four years ago, I know, I know
I would have been talking to and let me let
me just say this, I never take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I learned in twenty ten, then reinforced in twenty fifteen
and twenty sixteen, never to take it for granted.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Again in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Never to take it for granted, you know, a postseason
bowl opportunity. And I understand what the expectation is. Fully
understand what the expectation of this program is.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, honestly, Craig, just growing up as a Texas
fan during the Finch Shung and the Colt McCoy era,
I just assumed that Texas just could not lose a
bowl game. And it took until the loss to Oregon
in the Almo Bowl. That was a bad loss, but
for most of my childhood just like, oh yeah, when
Texas gets to a bowl game, they're going to win. Now,
(02:27):
the first part was they're going to be playing in
either what did they even call it before? In New
year six Bowl? Do they haven't even had a name
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, they didn't, because you would have.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, there was the Bowl Coalition, the Bowl Alliance, and
then it was just BCS bowls.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You were in a BCS Bowl as it was kind
of the standard was a BCS Bowl. And if not
for Texas Tech, which of course was the last time
Texas was ranked number one, and if not for Colt
McCoy's injury, would be been a lot lot different. But
the last decade and for kids who I guess in
college now, they grew up more with the Texas that
(03:03):
wasn't playing in bowl games, and at some times we're
fighting for bowl eligibility and did not. We're not familiar
with the BCSA area and we're not familiar with playing
in the New Year's Bowls. But here we are, twenty
twenty four and the tides beginning to turn. It's interesting you.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Bring up the of them winning bowl games.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
When I first started on the first ball in the
network back in nineteen eighty eight is the studio anchor
eighty eight through ninety one, but my first season in
the booth as the analyst, working with Bill Shooning, and
we did ten football and nine basketball seasons together. In
those ten football seasons when I first started there in
(03:43):
nineteen ninety two, Texas had a sub five hundred record
in bowl games, and I, you know, and you go
through those bowl games because Bill and I it was
our third season work together before Texas got to play
bowl because they went six and five and ninety two
and they weren'ting up bowl games and you didn't the
(04:05):
six wins didn't do enough to get you into a
bowl game back in the day. So they went six
and five in John Macovick's first year in nineteen ninety two.
They went five to five and one in ninety three,
then nineteen ninety four, thirty years ago, which I still
to this day and the time that I have been
around broadcasting. Longhorn Athletics is to me one of the
(04:27):
strangest football seasons in the University of Texas history. If
you look it up, you'll see that the team went
seven and four during the regular season and was part
of a five way share of the Southwest Conference style.
That's because Texas A and M was on probation. Otherwise
the Aggies would have won the crown outright, and in
(04:49):
fact A and M beat Texas on Thanksgiving Night in Austin,
but they were on probation, so they were ineligible for
the conference title. So you get a five way tie
for the conference championship. Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, and
Rice were all sharing in the conference title. Do they
(05:13):
have a banner or in the citium?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's well old.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think what they do is what a lot. Because
they had a proud football tradition in the thirties, forties
and fifties, they want a bunch of conference titles. I
think they have a listing kind of like what it's
done at the k R where they list the conference titles.
Southwest Conference titles. The last one they could list there
would be nineteen ninety four. And because Texas Tech had
(05:46):
had the longest absence from the Cotton Bowl, they got
to represent the Southwest Conference as the conference champion representative
in the in the Cotton Bowl against USC. USC came
in with Rob Johnson and Keyshawn Johnson and just just
worked him, just blew him out, beat them fifty five
(06:07):
to sixteen. Texas went to the Sun Bowl to play
a North Carolina team coach by Mac Brown, and it
was a real entertaining game. Texas was down ten and
the fourth quarter came back and when thirty five to
thirty one, Priest Holmes had a marvelous game of the
gunder at sixty one rushing yards.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And there's this great photo frame photo.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's in the football office and I've seen it in
other places of Holmes diving through the air, going and
going past to North Carolina defenders and John Elmore the
center is like down the back kind of looking up
at him, and in the background you see the Franklin Mountains.
You see the mountain range there. Yeah, what a cool
(06:49):
picture in it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Last time you're at the Sun Bowl, oh, because they
played El Paso with Cole McCoy.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was two thousand and eight.
They did play him there, and I stopped there with
my son several years ago when we were going through
and I just kind of walked him around, walked them
through there through the sun Bolt I just open and
just walked in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You went through the gate and did that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But that year was very strange for Texas because they
had some big wins. They beat Pittsburgh on a walk
off field goal by freshman Phil Dawson. They had that.
They had a couple of nice wins. They also had
some head scratching a lot. The nice wins included a
(07:36):
seventeen ten whatever Oklahoma Stony Clark making the big tackle
on James Allen at the goal line did not allow
him into the end zone, and Texas won that game.
They also had the nineteen to seventeen loss to Rice
on what was called Black Sunday because of the Major
League Baseball strike, and so they ESPN moved some football
games to Sunday night and the Texas Rice game in
(07:59):
Houston was playing on the n A in a steady downpour,
and Texas lost that game to Rice nineteen to seventeen.
They had a Thanksgiving Morning I guess it was a
Thanksgiving Yeah, they played.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
A and M. I guess on a night game.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But they had a Thanksgiving morning ten o'clock in the
morning kick off against Baylor and James Brown threw five
touchdown passes ten am. Yeah, goodness, and Texas we got
home for Thanksgiving in Texas beat them pretty badly. I
think it was like something like sixty three thirty five
actually that beat them to the.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Stadium on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They had a decent crowd. But then it, you know,
kind of once Texas kind of jumped on them and
went off. They lost in Fort Worth to TCU. That
was the deal where in those days, uh and we
didn't have a parabolic mic operator and people to help downsearch.
We had what was called the locker room liaison that
we would hire someone freelancing and go down to the
(08:58):
locker room to hand the headset to players and to
coach macovic. Well, that person that particular game had to
be my brother who lives in Fort Worth, and he
offered to do it, and my brother says he's always
mentally scarred by the fact that he went down to
that locker room after Texas lost to TCU and he
has to turn the hand the headset to coach mcavic.
(09:20):
And here comes Coach mcaviick walking over to him.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Completely naked, just soaking wet.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He had just come out of the shower and he
was just totally naked and he had to hand it
here you go, coach, and him the headset there.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
My goodness, I did not know that. Yep, yep. That
was the days of the locker room liaison.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But they had some big wins on that including, like
I said, the win over North Carolina was big. It
was very important. The winnver Baylor was big. That was
that was important. That year, they got blown out by
Texas Tech and Lobbock lost thirty three to nine.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Had a really rough so it was an up.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
And down and up and down, mostly up because they
won eight in up, winning eight ball games and losing four.
But it was it was weird. It was a very
very strange year, and they did win the conference time.
I will say this, it kind of helps set the
tone for them the next year in ninety five, winning
the final ever Southwest Conference championship, going ten to one
(10:17):
and one in the regular season. The only loss was
to Notre Dame and they and they had a tie
in that season as well, but they won the final
ever Southwest Conference final into Texas A and M's thirty
one game winning streak went to the Sugar Bowl and
lost to Virginia Tech. They were up ten to nothing
(10:38):
in the second quarter and ended up losing that game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Jim drunk and Miller Jim Drunken Miller, he led the comeback.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Texas was up ten to nothing and Drunke and Miller
threw a pass line sideline pass at the safety Chris
Carter broke on. Carter the year before had a picked
six against North Carolina. He broke on it. Had he
feeled it cleanly, it would have been a walk in
to the ends and would have been seventeen to nothing
in the second corner. And I don't know if Virginia
Tech would have recovered, but but he didn't. He dropped it,
(11:07):
and then on the very next possession Texas had to punt.
I think it was Brian Still returned at like sixty
nine yards for a touchdown, and everything changed after that,
and Virginia Tech went on the win I believe twenty
eight ten. So they ended up winning that Sugar Bowl
ninety six. But then, of course the next year was
the first year of the Big Twelve and they won
the first ever a Big Twelve championship. So those were
some interesting years there in ninety four, ninety five, ninety
(11:29):
six there before it all came crashing down in ninety
seven in the change to Mac Brown. That sort of thing.
All right, up next, we're going to hear from some
current Loghorn players. Will continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app
Here for the final hour of the program, Glad to
have You with Us. We roll on with the final
hour of the program here on sports Radio AM thirteen
hundred The Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Glad to have You with Us.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Greig Wady joined by the producer Cameron Parker Hey programming
note for you tomorrow. Tomorrow, Cameron won't be here because
he'll be over at Pluckers as we get ready for
Longhorn Weekly with Coach sarg So that's going on tomorrow.
(00:31):
So you'll be over there Pluckers getting ready for that,
right you got miss me, Yes, But then I'll see
you Pluckers.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Everything be. He'll be with Andrew Simble, so that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I've got some other things that are other appointment
things that are going on with us and with the
radio station. So you'll hear me on the show tomorrow.
You're gonna hear me kind of in and out at
points Tomorrow. Tomorrow is just kind of a one off situation,
but you'll hear me. I'll be on, but you'll also
quite a bit of Andrew Zimmo, and you'll hear from
(01:02):
Long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkesia because tomorrow is SEC
teleconference day, the conference call, and so you'll hear from
the long wrns head football coach speaking of the long worns.
We'll hear coming up in a few minutes, three more
members of this long worn football team that stand at
three and oh, Cameron, nobody's taking notice of the fact
(01:25):
they're halfway to bowl eligibility. Ooh, it's hard to even
say that with a straight thing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Save well three four years ago, I know, I know
I would have been talking to and let me let
me just say this, I never take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I learned in twenty ten, then reinforced in twenty fifteen
and twenty sixteen, never to take it for granted.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Again in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Never to take it for granted, you know, a postseason
bowl opportunity. And I understand what the expectation is. Fully
understand what the expectation of this program is.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, honestly, Craig, just growing up as a Texas
fan during the Finch Shung and the Colt McCoy era,
I just assumed that Texas just could not lose a
bowl game. And it took until the loss to Oregon
in the Almo Bowl. That was a bad loss, but
for most of my childhood just like, oh yeah, when
Texas gets to a bowl game, they're going to win. Now,
(02:27):
the first part was they're going to be playing in
either what did they even call it before? In New
year six Bowl? Do they haven't even had a name
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, they didn't, because you would have.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, there was the Bowl Coalition, the Bowl Alliance, and
then it was just BCS bowls.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You were in a BCS Bowl as it was kind
of the standard was a BCS Bowl. And if not
for Texas Tech, which of course was the last time
Texas was ranked number one, and if not for Colt
McCoy's injury, would be been a lot lot different. But
the last decade and for kids who I guess in
college now, they grew up more with the Texas that
(03:03):
wasn't playing in bowl games, and at some times we're
fighting for bowl eligibility and did not. We're not familiar
with the BCSA area and we're not familiar with playing
in the New Year's Bowls. But here we are, twenty
twenty four and the tides beginning to turn. It's interesting you.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Bring up the of them winning bowl games.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
When I first started on the first ball in the
network back in nineteen eighty eight is the studio anchor
eighty eight through ninety one, but my first season in
the booth as the analyst, working with Bill Shooning, and
we did ten football and nine basketball seasons together. In
those ten football seasons when I first started there in
(03:43):
nineteen ninety two, Texas had a sub five hundred record
in bowl games, and I, you know, and you go
through those bowl games because Bill and I it was
our third season work together before Texas got to play
bowl because they went six and five and ninety two
and they weren'ting up bowl games and you didn't the
(04:05):
six wins didn't do enough to get you into a
bowl game back in the day. So they went six
and five in John Macovick's first year in nineteen ninety two.
They went five to five and one in ninety three,
then nineteen ninety four, thirty years ago, which I still
to this day and the time that I have been
around broadcasting. Longhorn Athletics is to me one of the
(04:27):
strangest football seasons in the University of Texas history. If
you look it up, you'll see that the team went
seven and four during the regular season and was part
of a five way share of the Southwest Conference style.
That's because Texas A and M was on probation. Otherwise
the Aggies would have won the crown outright, and in
(04:49):
fact A and M beat Texas on Thanksgiving Night in Austin,
but they were on probation, so they were ineligible for
the conference title. So you get a five way tie
for the conference championship. Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, and
Rice were all sharing in the conference title. Do they
(05:13):
have a banner or in the citium?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's well old.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think what they do is what a lot. Because
they had a proud football tradition in the thirties, forties
and fifties, they want a bunch of conference titles. I
think they have a listing kind of like what it's
done at the k R where they list the conference titles.
Southwest Conference titles. The last one they could list there
would be nineteen ninety four. And because Texas Tech had
(05:46):
had the longest absence from the Cotton Bowl, they got
to represent the Southwest Conference as the conference champion representative
in the in the Cotton Bowl against USC. USC came
in with Rob Johnson and Keyshawn Johnson and just just
worked him, just blew him out, beat them fifty five
(06:07):
to sixteen. Texas went to the Sun Bowl to play
a North Carolina team coach by Mac Brown, and it
was a real entertaining game. Texas was down ten and
the fourth quarter came back and when thirty five to
thirty one, Priest Holmes had a marvelous game of the
gunder at sixty one rushing yards.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And there's this great photo frame photo.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's in the football office and I've seen it in
other places of Holmes diving through the air, going and
going past to North Carolina defenders and John Elmore the
center is like down the back kind of looking up
at him, and in the background you see the Franklin Mountains.
You see the mountain range there. Yeah, what a cool
(06:49):
picture in it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Last time you're at the Sun Bowl, oh, because they
played El Paso with Cole McCoy.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was two thousand and eight.
They did play him there, and I stopped there with
my son several years ago when we were going through
and I just kind of walked him around, walked them
through there through the sun Bolt I just open and
just walked in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You went through the gate and did that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But that year was very strange for Texas because they
had some big wins. They beat Pittsburgh on a walk
off field goal by freshman Phil Dawson. They had that.
They had a couple of nice wins. They also had
some head scratching a lot. The nice wins included a
(07:36):
seventeen ten whatever Oklahoma Stony Clark making the big tackle
on James Allen at the goal line did not allow
him into the end zone, and Texas won that game.
They also had the nineteen to seventeen loss to Rice
on what was called Black Sunday because of the Major
League Baseball strike, and so they ESPN moved some football
games to Sunday night and the Texas Rice game in
(07:59):
Houston was playing on the n A in a steady downpour,
and Texas lost that game to Rice nineteen to seventeen.
They had a Thanksgiving Morning I guess it was a
Thanksgiving Yeah, they played.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
A and M. I guess on a night game.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But they had a Thanksgiving morning ten o'clock in the
morning kick off against Baylor and James Brown threw five
touchdown passes ten am. Yeah, goodness, and Texas we got
home for Thanksgiving in Texas beat them pretty badly. I
think it was like something like sixty three thirty five
actually that beat them to the.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Stadium on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
They had a decent crowd. But then it, you know,
kind of once Texas kind of jumped on them and
went off. They lost in Fort Worth to TCU. That
was the deal where in those days, uh and we
didn't have a parabolic mic operator and people to help downsearch.
We had what was called the locker room liaison that
we would hire someone freelancing and go down to the
(08:58):
locker room to hand the headset to players and to
coach macovic. Well, that person that particular game had to
be my brother who lives in Fort Worth, and he
offered to do it, and my brother says he's always
mentally scarred by the fact that he went down to
that locker room after Texas lost to TCU and he
has to turn the hand the headset to coach mcavic.
(09:20):
And here comes Coach mcaviick walking over to him.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Completely naked, just soaking wet.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He had just come out of the shower and he
was just totally naked and he had to hand it
here you go, coach, and him the headset there.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
My goodness, I did not know that. Yep, yep. That
was the days of the locker room liaison.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But they had some big wins on that including, like
I said, the win over North Carolina was big. It
was very important. The winnver Baylor was big. That was
that was important. That year, they got blown out by
Texas Tech and Lobbock lost thirty three to nine.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Had a really rough so it was an up.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
And down and up and down, mostly up because they
won eight in up, winning eight ball games and losing four.
But it was it was weird. It was a very
very strange year, and they did win the conference time.
I will say this, it kind of helps set the
tone for them the next year in ninety five, winning
the final ever Southwest Conference championship, going ten to one
(10:17):
and one in the regular season. The only loss was
to Notre Dame and they and they had a tie
in that season as well, but they won the final
ever Southwest Conference final into Texas A and M's thirty
one game winning streak went to the Sugar Bowl and
lost to Virginia Tech. They were up ten to nothing
(10:38):
in the second quarter and ended up losing that game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Jim drunk and Miller Jim Drunken Miller, he led the comeback.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Texas was up ten to nothing and Drunke and Miller
threw a pass line sideline pass at the safety Chris
Carter broke on. Carter the year before had a picked
six against North Carolina. He broke on it. Had he
feeled it cleanly, it would have been a walk in
to the ends and would have been seventeen to nothing
in the second corner. And I don't know if Virginia
Tech would have recovered, but but he didn't. He dropped it,
(11:07):
and then on the very next possession Texas had to punt.
I think it was Brian Still returned at like sixty
nine yards for a touchdown, and everything changed after that,
and Virginia Tech went on the win I believe twenty
eight ten. So they ended up winning that Sugar Bowl
ninety six. But then, of course the next year was
the first year of the Big Twelve and they won
the first ever a Big Twelve championship. So those were
some interesting years there in ninety four, ninety five, ninety
(11:29):
six there before it all came crashing down in ninety
seven in the change to Mac Brown. That sort of thing.
All right, up next, we're going to hear from some
current Loghorn players. Will continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app
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