September 24, 2024 • 18 mins
Greg Tepper, managing editor of Dave Campbells Texas Football, joins the show for his weekly interview to talk Texas College Football and High School Football. Craig and Tep discuss the best transfers to Texas teams, the best teams in the Lone Star State, and a look at Week 5 of the Texas High School Football season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Each week we check off talking college football and high
school football in the state of Texas with a managing
editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine, the man who
co hosts High School Scoreboard Live with Aaron Hartigan and
Yours Truly. On Friday nights, it's Greig Temper who joins
us now on the hotline. How you doing today, Ted,
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm driving back. I had a meeting in Waco, so
I'm making that check up by thirty five right now.
And I know that that is a path you know
very well through those areas, and luckily, I think the
traffic's going to pay, which is honestly like, good job
by thirty five. Well, don you can't always say that
(00:41):
about that, No you can't.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And be careful. Speed trap right around mile marker three
sixty two. It's near that rest area just south of Hillsboro,
not far from Abbot by the way.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh, by the way, speaking of Habbit, next time your
listeners are driving by thirty five to come to Dallas,
UH when you get to Abbot, make sure they're heading north.
Make sure you look to the right and see the
beautiful new stadium UH or at least the new turf
that they have for again six man football. Abbot ab
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in America with a video board, a Citeo board, and
six man football. If that doesn't get you fired up,
I don't know what will.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh yeah, that's that's good. But but listen, you know
there there there are all kinds of good six man
programs across the state of Texas, and Abbott is one
of those that has won a state title and has
been a contender and has been in the state finals.
So if there's going to be an elite, top shelf
of six man programs, especially six man Division one programs,
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then the Abbot Panthers would be there. So therefore, it
would make sense if there was going to be a
six man program that has a video board, that would
be one, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think that's exactly right. I mean, I think everybody.
Here's here's the example I would make. Okay, you look
at it, like remember when Allen opened to their giant
New Eagle stadium and it was national news. Oh my gosh,
look at this high school football stadium. They were the first.
I would put Abbot in that same category of like
perennial contender a program you got to deal with. Now,
that's probably where the comparisons between the Allan Eagles and
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the abod Panthers stop. But I would say, proposer, those
are probably a good place to start as follower's prestidure concern.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
All right, we'll jump back to the high school to man,
I want to get your thoughts on a piece written
by the young man who I think a lot of
I think he's quite talented on your staff, Carter Yates,
And he wrote a piece detailing what he estimates. So
the top five Texas college football transfers to the first
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quarter of the season, and he goes in this order.
Number five is Isaiah Bond, the long Worn's wide receiver
transferred from Alabama. Number four Keaton Thomas, the Baylor linebacker,
transferred from Northeast Mississippi Community College. By the way, my
basketball broadcast partner Eddie Orn will tell you that's in Senatobia, Mississippi.
Number three Sam Houston Bearcats quarterback Hunter Watson transferred in
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from Iowa Western Community College. That's in Council Bluffs where
all the casinos are, just across the Missouri River from Omaha.
Number two Texas Tech Red Raiders wide receiver Josh Kelly,
and then number one Simu Mustangs running back Brischard Smith.
How about your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Yeah, I think he hit the nail on the
head for the most part. I think that obviously there
there the offense heavy group here. I think the Texas
fans have got to be pretty pleased with what they've
seen from Isaiah Bond. I would say that that is
not necessarily surprising, considering the pedigree that he came in with,
as well as you take a look at just the
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receiver room kind of the revamped receiver room that he
was stepping into, he really did. I think him being
there is not is impressive, but not necessarily a surprise.
I think that Sam Houston quarterback Hunter Watson has been
a real surprise. I mean, this is a guy you know,
you mentioned Iowa Western Community College, and obviously Sam Houston
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is swinging for different kinds of transfers than the Texas
law or the text A and M Maggie's are. But
I think that was one that that I think certainly
has has surprised Bear Counts fans in a pleasant way.
I might be I might be come, uh might flip
number one and number two. I think Josh Kelly, what
he's brought the text tech has been has been really
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really game changing. They have needed another guy to step up,
especially considering they have not gotten what they thought that
what I think fans thought they might get from Micah
Hudson early in the year. Uh, it's been a lot
of koy Akin and they've needed that other guy, and
Josh Kelly has been that guy. That's that's no skin
off the nose of for Shard Smith, who has been
excellent for SMU and obviously was fantastic last week and
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their big win over over rival TC and the Art Skillet.
I might be convinced to do to put Josh Keilly
number one, but I can't. I can't argue too much.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
With Young Carter talking football in the State of Texas
with Greg Tepper, Managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Right,
let's jump to high school tap and this is a
topic that we kind of have fun with and discuss
on Scoreboard Live. And I know Aaron Hartigan, our co host,
(05:29):
really likes to kind of poke the bear with you
a little bit and Tori the and that's when it
comes to rankings and because you and the staff put
it together, and I'm always curious to get your thoughts
on how things can be changed or not at all,
depending on if one team looks really, really good, how
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far can they rise? For example, in your six A
top ten, your top eight are identical from a week
ago Duncanville or short Ord, Crowley, De Soto, Summer Creek,
south Lake, Carrol Lake, Travis a Task Casita, with Allen
moving up from ten to nine and Coppel eleven to ten.
Similar steals the one who took the plunge after losing
(06:10):
Westlake last week, and by the way, you know Westlake
gets that that win, but only moved up to a
couple of spots Number Trump. How difficult is it when
you're not just doing the six A where you got
to do a top twenty five, but when you're doing
top tens in each division of the other five remaining classifications,
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which is more difficult to do the top twenty five
moving and shaking and shuffling or the top ten in
either of those other divisions.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's a great question, and I think
that there's different difficulties for every costume. For six A,
obviously with more spots. With twenty five spots instead of ten,
you have an opportunity a little bit more breath that
you can give those. You can take a flyer on
a team. You can draw a team into the ranking
and say, okay, this is tenative of we want to
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see how do you do with a ranking like this.
We're interested, we'd like to see more. So so for example,
this past week, you know, we drop Size Springs into
the ranking. Si Springs is four and oh we had
Og Fagan, the head coach of Size Springs after they're
big whatever Sy Ranch on the High school Sportboard Live.
We're we're interested in them, but we'd like to see more.
(07:22):
And so the breadth there really helps. But I do
think that it can be difficult in a lot of
ways because at the six A ranks you often have
really uneven schedules, especially in non district time now, where
you've got teams that have played brutal, brutal non district
schedules that maybe against teams that that or maybe let's
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call it maybe a soft four and O or something
like that. That's hard to balance. But one of the
things that we run into, I would say even more
in these smaller school ranks is what I would call
a team getting overheated, okay, in the sense of we'll
rank a team at about ten right, will drop them
in the rankings at number ten, and then teams will
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lose ahead of them, and then just by kind of inertia,
they'll just kind of keep touching up, They'll keep nudging up,
they'll keep nudging up, and suddenly you'll look up and
they're the number five team in the state. Just basically
just by kind of taking care of their own business.
You could say they don't necessarily even have an impress win,
but they just kind of buy that inertia moved up
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each week, and those are the ones that you really
got to keep an eye on, because sometimes you can
end before the team that you'll look up and they're
the number five team in the state, and you think, well,
I don't know if they're a fifth best team in
the state. Maybe they have the fifth best resume, maybe
have the fifth best record in the state, but I
don't know if they're necessarily the fifth best team. And
if those are the things that I think are the
real challenges for us, especially right now, when I think
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you have kind of you have kind of the wrong
amount of data. You've got just enough data to be dangerous,
or you probably want to throw out your pre season prognostications,
maybe not entirely, but oh the way. But also, you've
only got three to four games worth of data, and
so you don't necessarily want to overstate what they've done
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in the first four weeks. So it's a difficult balance
to strike. And that's one of the things I'm always
wary of what we're doing those smaller school rankings, is
is this team just kind of moving up because the
teams ahead of them are losing, or are they moving
up because of their own merits.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
By the way, you're making me laugh a little bit,
because what you just laid out there is what Oklahoma
fans in Texas A and m fans, and more crucially
perhaps Georgia fans or Tennessee fans are saying about Texas AH.
You know, they hadn't really beaten anybody, they're just kind
of they're just kind of sliding up. They slid up
to number one. The Michigan win certainly is aging pretty well.
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After the Wolverines win in ann Arbor over usc last week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I think in the case of a team like Texas,
and especially when you're dealing with a situation like in
college football, where that as a pole. To be clear,
we couldn't take an internal poll situation. But usually what
happens when we're putting out our rankings is we'll put
together the rankings, we'll kind of run it by the
staff and be like, how do you guys want to
adjust these types of things? There's something you've got tea
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somebody that really wants to go to the mat for
a team moving off will have that conversation. But with
a poll, you've got these guys all across the nation
who are casting their votes and it's just talenting up
those So it's certainly they can get it wrong. But
I think in a situation like Texas, they've got that
signature win on the road convincingly at Michigan, and if
they didn't have that, if you were to replace that
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with a convincing road win over Eastern Michigan, this might
be a different conversation. But I think that because of
that that's doing a lot of the heavy listing, especially
considering Georgia has has stumbled at times. There's been no
sign of a stumble for the.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ball courts talking football with Greg Temper, managing editor of
Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine. Are you only had one
number one ranked team fall out of the number one
spot in this week's ranking, and it was a team
that did not lose Malakoff, who was number one in
three eight Division one. But I got to agree with
you were kind of hit and dropping the ends. But
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the way speaking of resumes, the way that Columbus has
just bludgeoned people through the first four ball games of
the season, it made sense to have them kind of
do the Texas Georgia flip flop and move Columbus to
one in Malakoff to two this week.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm glad you agree because that was one of the
things that we were we talked long and hard about,
and honestly, we toiled it in week three because Malakoff
kind of played around with Madison film they had to
win win that game late against Madison l Mike Jones
threw a touchdown in the final minute of that game
to beat the Mustangs, and and Columbus has just been,
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as you mentioned, just bludgeting every team that they play.
We ended up looking at it and we will do this,
I will I'll cok to this. We will look ahead
and say, okay, who are they playing week? Well, what
are these next week? What are the chances we're going
to see an upset one of the chances we're going
to see more of a a clear eyed view of
a team moving forward. And sure enough, in this particular instance,
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Malakoff who just got done playing Madisonville, Columbus played Madisonville
next and we are going perfect, we will have an
absolute one to one comparison seven days apart and see
how they handle it. And sure enough, Columbus went out
there and did what they've done to everyone, which is
Molly Wolsam and that to me for me, and that
that's when I came to the group and I just said, hey, listen,
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we got to make the move. Columbus has the superior resume,
especially when you're talking about a situation where four weeks
in we want to really start hard facing out our
preseason prognostications and go with the data we see on
the field. That to me was the right move. And
that's to say nothing about Malakoff. I think they're a
good team. Obviously at the number two spot. I think
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they've got a great chance to play Columbus in a
state championship game. But I would look at that Columbus
as clearly, in my opinion, the the most the superior
team and three in Division one as at this moment.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, uh, so we get down to where we talk
about games to go to and uh, I'll give you
the choice of three said games and uh and and
get your thoughts on this. Let me uh, let me
let me get one of them. Is the game you
just mentioned that's coming on this week with Columbus and
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Bellville that would be one. Let's say you could be there,
or you could be in San Antonio for Piper against
Missing Valley, which I think is a pretty tasty matchup.
That would be two. And then the third one. Make
sure i'll pull it up here I had it written
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down here is uh, let's see what was the third
one I had here? Well, I'll tell you what I'm
gonna go with. The third one that I'm gonna go
with here is gonna be Argyle hosting Colliegill Heritage as
the third.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So they're all excellent games. The one you probably left
office Salina and Panther Creek.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's the one I was thinking of that's the one
I had written down, all right, never mind the Kylieville,
Herida Jarga, Solida Panther Creek, Salida Panther Crek, that's the
third one.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's probably Saliina Panther Creek just because of the history.
If you for those who don't remember, last year in
Week eleven, Panther Creek the new program. I know it
seems like there's a million in Frisco teams because there are.
Panther Creek pulled off one of the heists of the
century when they stole the district championship from Salina in
the final minute of the regular season to win the
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district championship. And now they enter this game number two
and number three in four A Division one. It's have
to star in Frisco. It's going to be exceptional football.
I'm very excited about that game. Columbus and Belleville lost
a little bit of starts last week when Belleville got
beat by hitch Talk, and the way the Columbus is playing,
I feel like their favorite. But that you mentioned that
Piper and Smithson Valley game, I'm super interested in that game.
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Do you want to talk about a potential changing of
the guard and comal ad where Smithson Valley has forever
been the standard bearer and now here comes Piper until
the regional finals a year ago. Uh, they have been spectacular.
They have a wide receiver and they named Isaiah Champagne,
who is spectacular and move He's a move in from
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Louisiana and from like the boot of Louisiana. So if
you ever get an interview with Isaiah Champagne, it is
mall cage and it's great. Uh going up against this high,
this hype power Piper offense against this fantastic Smithson Valley defense,
that's box office stuff. But I would say, especially from
a rankings perspective, number two versus number three and the
revenge factor for Solana, I think it's probably Solana Panther.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Let me give you two more games and just and
just get your thoughts on him. I I agree with
you on the Soalina pans on great thing. Let me
give you, give you a couple more and get your thoughts.
Uh A do we will the real long view pine Tree,
please stand up. They're four and oh playing kill Goore
this week. Uh so that's one of them. And then
the other one is gonna be uh Glenn Rose and Alvarado. Uh.
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And and that's in Summerville County. That's over in Glenn Rose.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
H your absolute spot on Longview. Pine Tree has been
a fast riser in our rankings and it is like
gut check time. They had that season opening win over
Gilmer and that has aged I think pretty well and
now they get an opportunity to go and if they
be kil Gore, it is time to start thinking about
them very very very seriously because kill Gore is one
of those teams that, because of their physical style, will
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challenge you in such a different way of fascinating logging
out there and then you know you mentioned it. Glen
Rose coming off of a surprising loss last week to
Jim d can they kind of get the wheels back
on quickly in what I think might actually be the
best quarterback matchup in the state. Cardier Collier for Alvarado
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is spectacular to watch going up against Canyon Evans, the
outstanding quarterback for Glen Rose, where they seem to just
throw those guys on trees. I am absolutely fascinated by
that ballgame in a real I think, a real good
measuring stick for both of those ball clubs. It is
actually Matt Stephan. I recorded our podcast yesterday and we
end up drafting ten games from across the state and
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we ended up we were in the Valley, we were
in the Panhandle. We're in CFW Houston, Austin, San Antonio
week a week. It is a great week all over,
and it's a very geographically diverse group of games this week,
so it should be shipped fun.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It was Robinson the beat that beat to glen Rose
last week.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Jim, that be somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Else, Jacksborough. That's it and that was another that was
another outstanding game.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He's Greg Temper, Managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
You catch his outstanding work online at Texas Football dot
com and then joining me and Aaron Hartigan on Friday
nights for Scoreboard Life see in the studio Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm really looking forward to my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
All right. That's Craig Chepper, Managing enter Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine. More coming up here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone.
Each week we check off talking college football and high
school football in the state of Texas with a managing
editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine, the man who
co hosts High School Scoreboard Live with Aaron Hartigan and
Yours Truly. On Friday nights, it's Greig Temper who joins
us now on the hotline. How you doing today, Ted,
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm driving back. I had a meeting in Waco, so
I'm making that check up by thirty five right now.
And I know that that is a path you know
very well through those areas, and luckily, I think the
traffic's going to pay, which is honestly like, good job
by thirty five. Well, don you can't always say that
(00:41):
about that, No you can't.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And be careful. Speed trap right around mile marker three
sixty two. It's near that rest area just south of Hillsboro,
not far from Abbot by the way.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh, by the way, speaking of Habbit, next time your
listeners are driving by thirty five to come to Dallas,
UH when you get to Abbot, make sure they're heading north.
Make sure you look to the right and see the
beautiful new stadium UH or at least the new turf
that they have for again six man football. Abbot ab
(01:14):
in America with a video board, a Citeo board, and
six man football. If that doesn't get you fired up,
I don't know what will.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh yeah, that's that's good. But but listen, you know
there there there are all kinds of good six man
programs across the state of Texas, and Abbott is one
of those that has won a state title and has
been a contender and has been in the state finals.
So if there's going to be an elite, top shelf
of six man programs, especially six man Division one programs,
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then the Abbot Panthers would be there. So therefore, it
would make sense if there was going to be a
six man program that has a video board, that would
be one, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think that's exactly right. I mean, I think everybody.
Here's here's the example I would make. Okay, you look
at it, like remember when Allen opened to their giant
New Eagle stadium and it was national news. Oh my gosh,
look at this high school football stadium. They were the first.
I would put Abbot in that same category of like
perennial contender a program you got to deal with. Now,
that's probably where the comparisons between the Allan Eagles and
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the abod Panthers stop. But I would say, proposer, those
are probably a good place to start as follower's prestidure concern.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
All right, we'll jump back to the high school to man,
I want to get your thoughts on a piece written
by the young man who I think a lot of
I think he's quite talented on your staff, Carter Yates,
And he wrote a piece detailing what he estimates. So
the top five Texas college football transfers to the first
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quarter of the season, and he goes in this order.
Number five is Isaiah Bond, the long Worn's wide receiver
transferred from Alabama. Number four Keaton Thomas, the Baylor linebacker,
transferred from Northeast Mississippi Community College. By the way, my
basketball broadcast partner Eddie Orn will tell you that's in Senatobia, Mississippi.
Number three Sam Houston Bearcats quarterback Hunter Watson transferred in
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from Iowa Western Community College. That's in Council Bluffs where
all the casinos are, just across the Missouri River from Omaha.
Number two Texas Tech Red Raiders wide receiver Josh Kelly,
and then number one Simu Mustangs running back Brischard Smith.
How about your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Yeah, I think he hit the nail on the
head for the most part. I think that obviously there
there the offense heavy group here. I think the Texas
fans have got to be pretty pleased with what they've
seen from Isaiah Bond. I would say that that is
not necessarily surprising, considering the pedigree that he came in with,
as well as you take a look at just the
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receiver room kind of the revamped receiver room that he
was stepping into, he really did. I think him being
there is not is impressive, but not necessarily a surprise.
I think that Sam Houston quarterback Hunter Watson has been
a real surprise. I mean, this is a guy you know,
you mentioned Iowa Western Community College, and obviously Sam Houston
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is swinging for different kinds of transfers than the Texas
law or the text A and M Maggie's are. But
I think that was one that that I think certainly
has has surprised Bear Counts fans in a pleasant way.
I might be I might be come, uh might flip
number one and number two. I think Josh Kelly, what
he's brought the text tech has been has been really
(04:35):
really game changing. They have needed another guy to step up,
especially considering they have not gotten what they thought that
what I think fans thought they might get from Micah
Hudson early in the year. Uh, it's been a lot
of koy Akin and they've needed that other guy, and
Josh Kelly has been that guy. That's that's no skin
off the nose of for Shard Smith, who has been
excellent for SMU and obviously was fantastic last week and
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their big win over over rival TC and the Art Skillet.
I might be convinced to do to put Josh Keilly
number one, but I can't. I can't argue too much.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
With Young Carter talking football in the State of Texas
with Greg Tepper, Managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Right,
let's jump to high school tap and this is a
topic that we kind of have fun with and discuss
on Scoreboard Live. And I know Aaron Hartigan, our co host,
(05:29):
really likes to kind of poke the bear with you
a little bit and Tori the and that's when it
comes to rankings and because you and the staff put
it together, and I'm always curious to get your thoughts
on how things can be changed or not at all,
depending on if one team looks really, really good, how
(05:49):
far can they rise? For example, in your six A
top ten, your top eight are identical from a week
ago Duncanville or short Ord, Crowley, De Soto, Summer Creek,
south Lake, Carrol Lake, Travis a Task Casita, with Allen
moving up from ten to nine and Coppel eleven to ten.
Similar steals the one who took the plunge after losing
(06:10):
Westlake last week, and by the way, you know Westlake
gets that that win, but only moved up to a
couple of spots Number Trump. How difficult is it when
you're not just doing the six A where you got
to do a top twenty five, but when you're doing
top tens in each division of the other five remaining classifications,
(06:30):
which is more difficult to do the top twenty five
moving and shaking and shuffling or the top ten in
either of those other divisions.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's a great question, and I think
that there's different difficulties for every costume. For six A,
obviously with more spots. With twenty five spots instead of ten,
you have an opportunity a little bit more breath that
you can give those. You can take a flyer on
a team. You can draw a team into the ranking
and say, okay, this is tenative of we want to
(07:00):
see how do you do with a ranking like this.
We're interested, we'd like to see more. So so for example,
this past week, you know, we drop Size Springs into
the ranking. Si Springs is four and oh we had
Og Fagan, the head coach of Size Springs after they're
big whatever Sy Ranch on the High school Sportboard Live.
We're we're interested in them, but we'd like to see more.
(07:22):
And so the breadth there really helps. But I do
think that it can be difficult in a lot of
ways because at the six A ranks you often have
really uneven schedules, especially in non district time now, where
you've got teams that have played brutal, brutal non district
schedules that maybe against teams that that or maybe let's
(07:43):
call it maybe a soft four and O or something
like that. That's hard to balance. But one of the
things that we run into, I would say even more
in these smaller school ranks is what I would call
a team getting overheated, okay, in the sense of we'll
rank a team at about ten right, will drop them
in the rankings at number ten, and then teams will
(08:03):
lose ahead of them, and then just by kind of inertia,
they'll just kind of keep touching up, They'll keep nudging up,
they'll keep nudging up, and suddenly you'll look up and
they're the number five team in the state. Just basically
just by kind of taking care of their own business.
You could say they don't necessarily even have an impress win,
but they just kind of buy that inertia moved up
(08:24):
each week, and those are the ones that you really
got to keep an eye on, because sometimes you can
end before the team that you'll look up and they're
the number five team in the state, and you think, well,
I don't know if they're a fifth best team in
the state. Maybe they have the fifth best resume, maybe
have the fifth best record in the state, but I
don't know if they're necessarily the fifth best team. And
if those are the things that I think are the
real challenges for us, especially right now, when I think
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you have kind of you have kind of the wrong
amount of data. You've got just enough data to be dangerous,
or you probably want to throw out your pre season prognostications,
maybe not entirely, but oh the way. But also, you've
only got three to four games worth of data, and
so you don't necessarily want to overstate what they've done
(09:07):
in the first four weeks. So it's a difficult balance
to strike. And that's one of the things I'm always
wary of what we're doing those smaller school rankings, is
is this team just kind of moving up because the
teams ahead of them are losing, or are they moving
up because of their own merits.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
By the way, you're making me laugh a little bit,
because what you just laid out there is what Oklahoma
fans in Texas A and m fans, and more crucially
perhaps Georgia fans or Tennessee fans are saying about Texas AH.
You know, they hadn't really beaten anybody, they're just kind
of they're just kind of sliding up. They slid up
to number one. The Michigan win certainly is aging pretty well.
(09:45):
After the Wolverines win in ann Arbor over usc last week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I think in the case of a team like Texas,
and especially when you're dealing with a situation like in
college football, where that as a pole. To be clear,
we couldn't take an internal poll situation. But usually what
happens when we're putting out our rankings is we'll put
together the rankings, we'll kind of run it by the
staff and be like, how do you guys want to
adjust these types of things? There's something you've got tea
(10:12):
somebody that really wants to go to the mat for
a team moving off will have that conversation. But with
a poll, you've got these guys all across the nation
who are casting their votes and it's just talenting up
those So it's certainly they can get it wrong. But
I think in a situation like Texas, they've got that
signature win on the road convincingly at Michigan, and if
they didn't have that, if you were to replace that
(10:34):
with a convincing road win over Eastern Michigan, this might
be a different conversation. But I think that because of
that that's doing a lot of the heavy listing, especially
considering Georgia has has stumbled at times. There's been no
sign of a stumble for the.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Ball courts talking football with Greg Temper, managing editor of
Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine. Are you only had one
number one ranked team fall out of the number one
spot in this week's ranking, and it was a team
that did not lose Malakoff, who was number one in
three eight Division one. But I got to agree with
you were kind of hit and dropping the ends. But
(11:10):
the way speaking of resumes, the way that Columbus has
just bludgeoned people through the first four ball games of
the season, it made sense to have them kind of
do the Texas Georgia flip flop and move Columbus to
one in Malakoff to two this week.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm glad you agree because that was one of the
things that we were we talked long and hard about,
and honestly, we toiled it in week three because Malakoff
kind of played around with Madison film they had to
win win that game late against Madison l Mike Jones
threw a touchdown in the final minute of that game
to beat the Mustangs, and and Columbus has just been,
(11:49):
as you mentioned, just bludgeting every team that they play.
We ended up looking at it and we will do this,
I will I'll cok to this. We will look ahead
and say, okay, who are they playing week? Well, what
are these next week? What are the chances we're going
to see an upset one of the chances we're going
to see more of a a clear eyed view of
a team moving forward. And sure enough, in this particular instance,
(12:12):
Malakoff who just got done playing Madisonville, Columbus played Madisonville
next and we are going perfect, we will have an
absolute one to one comparison seven days apart and see
how they handle it. And sure enough, Columbus went out
there and did what they've done to everyone, which is
Molly Wolsam and that to me for me, and that
that's when I came to the group and I just said, hey, listen,
(12:33):
we got to make the move. Columbus has the superior resume,
especially when you're talking about a situation where four weeks
in we want to really start hard facing out our
preseason prognostications and go with the data we see on
the field. That to me was the right move. And
that's to say nothing about Malakoff. I think they're a
good team. Obviously at the number two spot. I think
(12:54):
they've got a great chance to play Columbus in a
state championship game. But I would look at that Columbus
as clearly, in my opinion, the the most the superior
team and three in Division one as at this moment.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, uh, so we get down to where we talk
about games to go to and uh, I'll give you
the choice of three said games and uh and and
get your thoughts on this. Let me uh, let me
let me get one of them. Is the game you
just mentioned that's coming on this week with Columbus and
(13:28):
Bellville that would be one. Let's say you could be there,
or you could be in San Antonio for Piper against
Missing Valley, which I think is a pretty tasty matchup.
That would be two. And then the third one. Make
sure i'll pull it up here I had it written
(13:48):
down here is uh, let's see what was the third
one I had here? Well, I'll tell you what I'm
gonna go with. The third one that I'm gonna go
with here is gonna be Argyle hosting Colliegill Heritage as
the third.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So they're all excellent games. The one you probably left
office Salina and Panther Creek.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's the one I was thinking of that's the one
I had written down, all right, never mind the Kylieville,
Herida Jarga, Solida Panther Creek, Salida Panther Crek, that's the
third one.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's probably Saliina Panther Creek just because of the history.
If you for those who don't remember, last year in
Week eleven, Panther Creek the new program. I know it
seems like there's a million in Frisco teams because there are.
Panther Creek pulled off one of the heists of the
century when they stole the district championship from Salina in
the final minute of the regular season to win the
(14:44):
district championship. And now they enter this game number two
and number three in four A Division one. It's have
to star in Frisco. It's going to be exceptional football.
I'm very excited about that game. Columbus and Belleville lost
a little bit of starts last week when Belleville got
beat by hitch Talk, and the way the Columbus is playing,
I feel like their favorite. But that you mentioned that
Piper and Smithson Valley game, I'm super interested in that game.
(15:07):
Do you want to talk about a potential changing of
the guard and comal ad where Smithson Valley has forever
been the standard bearer and now here comes Piper until
the regional finals a year ago. Uh, they have been spectacular.
They have a wide receiver and they named Isaiah Champagne,
who is spectacular and move He's a move in from
(15:28):
Louisiana and from like the boot of Louisiana. So if
you ever get an interview with Isaiah Champagne, it is
mall cage and it's great. Uh going up against this high,
this hype power Piper offense against this fantastic Smithson Valley defense,
that's box office stuff. But I would say, especially from
a rankings perspective, number two versus number three and the
revenge factor for Solana, I think it's probably Solana Panther.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Let me give you two more games and just and
just get your thoughts on him. I I agree with
you on the Soalina pans on great thing. Let me
give you, give you a couple more and get your thoughts.
Uh A do we will the real long view pine Tree,
please stand up. They're four and oh playing kill Goore
this week. Uh so that's one of them. And then
the other one is gonna be uh Glenn Rose and Alvarado. Uh.
(16:16):
And and that's in Summerville County. That's over in Glenn Rose.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
H your absolute spot on Longview. Pine Tree has been
a fast riser in our rankings and it is like
gut check time. They had that season opening win over
Gilmer and that has aged I think pretty well and
now they get an opportunity to go and if they
be kil Gore, it is time to start thinking about
them very very very seriously because kill Gore is one
of those teams that, because of their physical style, will
(16:42):
challenge you in such a different way of fascinating logging
out there and then you know you mentioned it. Glen
Rose coming off of a surprising loss last week to
Jim d can they kind of get the wheels back
on quickly in what I think might actually be the
best quarterback matchup in the state. Cardier Collier for Alvarado
(17:05):
is spectacular to watch going up against Canyon Evans, the
outstanding quarterback for Glen Rose, where they seem to just
throw those guys on trees. I am absolutely fascinated by
that ballgame in a real I think, a real good
measuring stick for both of those ball clubs. It is
actually Matt Stephan. I recorded our podcast yesterday and we
end up drafting ten games from across the state and
(17:27):
we ended up we were in the Valley, we were
in the Panhandle. We're in CFW Houston, Austin, San Antonio
week a week. It is a great week all over,
and it's a very geographically diverse group of games this week,
so it should be shipped fun.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It was Robinson the beat that beat to glen Rose
last week.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Jim, that be somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Else, Jacksborough. That's it and that was another that was
another outstanding game.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He's Greg Temper, Managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
You catch his outstanding work online at Texas Football dot
com and then joining me and Aaron Hartigan on Friday
nights for Scoreboard Life see in the studio Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm really looking forward to my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
All right. That's Craig Chepper, Managing enter Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine. More coming up here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone.
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