October 15, 2024 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We get into our number three today, we've already had
earlier in the show, you heard from Jerry Jones, the
Cowboys owner and GM getting a little bit irritated at
his local radio show. And it is at this time
of year, would you not agree, Cameron, that we see
(00:22):
not only coach dismissals like what happened with Robert Salabing,
you know, sent packing by the New York Jets and
then they ended up losing their debut without him last night.
But this is where the criticism heightens of head coaches
(00:45):
of teams, no matter what level of football we're talking about,
Pro football, college football, high school football, doesn't matter. This
is where if you get to mid season and the
team is not performing to certainly the coach and player expectation,
but usually it's the fan expectation that heightens all this,
(01:06):
so things get a little bit exacerbated.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're about a third of the way through the NFL season,
close to about halfway through the college football season. You
have a large enough sample size to know either if
your team's a contender or not a contender. You can
kind of weed out who's good and who's not. And
a lot of those fan bases can are Smarten the
figure out maybe this coach is not the right coach.
We saw it with the Jets and Robert Sala. I
(01:30):
think we're gonna see it with the Jaguars and Doug Peterson.
I wonder if Jacksonville's gonna leave him in London after
their next London home game. And of course you wonder
what's gonna happen with Cleveland and Stefanski and the Shaun
Watson of course to Marii Cooper news him being traded out.
And then you have the Dallas Cowboys who have a
bye week this week. Usually, if you're gonna fire a
(01:51):
coach in the middle of the season, you tend to
do it during a bye week so you can get
someone else in there and give you yourself about two
weeks to kind of get the new game plan and
the new staff and and all that. But Jerry Jones
is Jerry Jones, very hard headed. But Craig, I mean,
we talked about it yesterday that the next five games
for the Cowboys is a very brutal, brutal schedule San Francisco, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston, Washington.
(02:15):
If you lose those five games, I wonder if we're
gonna see what happened to Wade Phillips and was a
nine to eight when he got fired.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
After that one in twenty ten? Wasn't it twenty ten
when they started one in seven?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One in seven? I mean, there's a chance Dallas is
three and eight. Yeah, but at that point, at three
and eight, you are already out of the playoffs. So
by then it'll be too little, too late. But it
was too little too late when Week one started for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, so you realize that what you just described, and
you did it in really good detail, was uncomfortable positions
for coaches and teams just in the NFL. What you
just described as the NFL. What we know to be
true is this happens everywhere college high school football. Even
(03:01):
trust me, I'm around the high school game enough with
the Friday Night Show and the other things that I do.
When fans start grumbling about a high school team that
they think should be performing at a higher level, heaven forbid,
But that does happen. Then, Like I said, there's the
college level, there's grumbling. There's grumbling into Oklahoma this week.
There there's grumbling in other sec parts. There's grumbling in Columbus,
(03:26):
Ohio this week, there's go there's grumbling in southern California.
So there's grumbling that goes on, and then there's a
different kind of grumbling that's going on at West Virginia.
Have you heard about this? This is a This is
a pretty interesting story West Virginia because they had the
(03:46):
big rush toward the end of the year and did
really well down the stretch, uh and and made it
to a bowl game. Supposedly, quote unquote, Neil Brown, the
head coach, was to use that term off the hot seat.
A lot of excitement about the Mountaineers going into this year,
but they're three and three now, and that was after
(04:09):
Saturday night's home loss to Iowa State. Now it doesn't
matter that Iowa State is number nine in the country
and undefeated. It's home loss actually televised gay So folks
are getting kind of antsy and grumbling. And then it
got exacerbated because I've heard coaches try to placate the
(04:37):
fan base, calm down the fan base, reassure the fan
base with stuff, but comments like these probably don't help.
Now I'm going to read you these comments from Neil Brown,
and I want you to tell me how well they
would go over in Austin, Texas, or College Station Texas,
(05:00):
or Norman, Oklahoma, or several other places like that. Okay,
he was talking about somebody asked him if he had
a message for fans who are upset with their performance
this year. Here's his quote. I get that they want
to win, But what I would say is did they
have a good time? Did they enjoy it? It was
(05:21):
a pretty good atmosphere, you know. I'm assuming they probably
had a good time tailgating. So if they're in the
deal for enjoyment, then I would come back. I looked
at the weather, it's gonna be nice again. It's a
night game, and we need them to provide a home
field advantage. How do you think that would go over
in Austin, Texas? If the team were struggling in Sart
(05:41):
and said, hey, do you have a good time of
the game. Do you have a good time tailgating? Hey,
weather's good? Come on back, how do you think that
would go over here? Or College Station or Norman, Oklahoma,
or you know lots of places like that, Columbus, Ohio,
all those places I just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The message boards would burn down.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, that's pretty much.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What's happened that the servers could not withstand the pout
of turmoil to the message boards would cost it. I mean,
Neil Brown read the room, buddy. I mean last season
he went in on the hot seat already in West Virginia,
had a fantastic twenty twenty three, and so a lot
of hopes coming into this season. And they lost to
an Iowa State team that might be the best group
(06:24):
of five teams. They lost to a Penn State team
that's currently ranked number four, and lost to a pit
team that's not too bad. So they're not an awful team.
But as a power for head coach, you're asking, did
you have a good time dining camping? Didn't go camping?
You played a college football game?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Neil Brown, so fans responded angrily, He actually said this.
He actually said this after the game. Okay, So then
at his news conference he got asked about it. Did
you mean to say and and so on and so
for and so then the reporter who asked a question
(07:05):
Monday to post on social media that he honestly didn't
plan to stir anything up. I thought it was a
simple question. And so he also said, hey, we have
a tough schedule, and the three teams that have beaten
West Virginia the season are all undefeated, and I think
those are what Pitt, Penn State and Iowa State good teams, right,
(07:27):
he said quote That's not an excuse, it's just the truth.
The games in our league are going to come down
to the fourth quarter, and I don't think this one
on Saturday is going to be any different. So we
need the fans to help us. I do get their frustration,
but I don't think when you watch our product, I
don't think the product is something that they should be
other than the outcome. It was an entertaining football game.
(07:50):
If you're a football fan and just watching that, it's
pretty entertaining. We just didn't play well enough to win.
So I would hope with that in mind, they would
come back for another entertaining game that hopefully we can
play better at the end and win. Good football. I
know we didn't win, but good football.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Imagine Defendable said that on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, so.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Olthough, I think that I think your fans had fun
of the State Fair.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did you get did you guys get a corn dog,
corn Dog, You did you? Did you ride the Texas Star?
Did you have a good time?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And there's some statements that will travel with the coach
for the rest of their life. You know, good things,
bad things.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I always think about Tom Herman and winning his hard
You as any Texas fan there, you got what's the
most famous thing Tom Herman said? Winning his heart? That
and okay cool hook him? The two things in for
Tom Herman. He's probably he's a great, fantastic he's a
great football mind, but he's always going to have that
attached to him. Now, Neil Brown, did you have fun?
Did you always be associated with Neil Well?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And and and if we're being real here, Herman's okay
cool hook him. A lot of fans like that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, so positive, Yeah, positive that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, swinning is hard. Yeah, that didn't go over too well.
It was that all right? Anyway, coming up, we're gonna
hear from Quinn rs Long, Orange quarterback coming off of
the win on Saturday, where Quinn was being if we're
being honest, said I didn't play my best, but my
teammates picked me up. I hope I turned that back around.
(09:29):
So that's coming up when we continue here on this
Tuesday afternoon on sports Radio AM thirteen under the zone
of the iHeartRadio app.
We get into our number three today, we've already had
earlier in the show, you heard from Jerry Jones, the
Cowboys owner and GM getting a little bit irritated at
his local radio show. And it is at this time
of year, would you not agree, Cameron, that we see
(00:22):
not only coach dismissals like what happened with Robert Salabing,
you know, sent packing by the New York Jets and
then they ended up losing their debut without him last night.
But this is where the criticism heightens of head coaches
(00:45):
of teams, no matter what level of football we're talking about,
Pro football, college football, high school football, doesn't matter. This
is where if you get to mid season and the
team is not performing to certainly the coach and player expectation,
but usually it's the fan expectation that heightens all this,
(01:06):
so things get a little bit exacerbated.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're about a third of the way through the NFL season,
close to about halfway through the college football season. You
have a large enough sample size to know either if
your team's a contender or not a contender. You can
kind of weed out who's good and who's not. And
a lot of those fan bases can are Smarten the
figure out maybe this coach is not the right coach.
We saw it with the Jets and Robert Sala. I
(01:30):
think we're gonna see it with the Jaguars and Doug Peterson.
I wonder if Jacksonville's gonna leave him in London after
their next London home game. And of course you wonder
what's gonna happen with Cleveland and Stefanski and the Shaun
Watson of course to Marii Cooper news him being traded out.
And then you have the Dallas Cowboys who have a
bye week this week. Usually, if you're gonna fire a
(01:51):
coach in the middle of the season, you tend to
do it during a bye week so you can get
someone else in there and give you yourself about two
weeks to kind of get the new game plan and
the new staff and and all that. But Jerry Jones
is Jerry Jones, very hard headed. But Craig, I mean,
we talked about it yesterday that the next five games
for the Cowboys is a very brutal, brutal schedule San Francisco, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston, Washington.
(02:15):
If you lose those five games, I wonder if we're
gonna see what happened to Wade Phillips and was a
nine to eight when he got fired.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
After that one in twenty ten? Wasn't it twenty ten
when they started one in seven?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
One in seven? I mean, there's a chance Dallas is
three and eight. Yeah, but at that point, at three
and eight, you are already out of the playoffs. So
by then it'll be too little, too late. But it
was too little too late when Week one started for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, so you realize that what you just described, and
you did it in really good detail, was uncomfortable positions
for coaches and teams just in the NFL. What you
just described as the NFL. What we know to be
true is this happens everywhere college high school football. Even
(03:01):
trust me, I'm around the high school game enough with
the Friday Night Show and the other things that I do.
When fans start grumbling about a high school team that
they think should be performing at a higher level, heaven forbid,
But that does happen. Then, Like I said, there's the
college level, there's grumbling. There's grumbling into Oklahoma this week.
There there's grumbling in other sec parts. There's grumbling in Columbus,
(03:26):
Ohio this week, there's go there's grumbling in southern California.
So there's grumbling that goes on, and then there's a
different kind of grumbling that's going on at West Virginia.
Have you heard about this? This is a This is
a pretty interesting story West Virginia because they had the
(03:46):
big rush toward the end of the year and did
really well down the stretch, uh and and made it
to a bowl game. Supposedly, quote unquote, Neil Brown, the
head coach, was to use that term off the hot seat.
A lot of excitement about the Mountaineers going into this year,
but they're three and three now, and that was after
(04:09):
Saturday night's home loss to Iowa State. Now it doesn't
matter that Iowa State is number nine in the country
and undefeated. It's home loss actually televised gay So folks
are getting kind of antsy and grumbling. And then it
got exacerbated because I've heard coaches try to placate the
(04:37):
fan base, calm down the fan base, reassure the fan
base with stuff, but comments like these probably don't help.
Now I'm going to read you these comments from Neil Brown,
and I want you to tell me how well they
would go over in Austin, Texas, or College Station Texas,
(05:00):
or Norman, Oklahoma, or several other places like that. Okay,
he was talking about somebody asked him if he had
a message for fans who are upset with their performance
this year. Here's his quote. I get that they want
to win, But what I would say is did they
have a good time? Did they enjoy it? It was
(05:21):
a pretty good atmosphere, you know. I'm assuming they probably
had a good time tailgating. So if they're in the
deal for enjoyment, then I would come back. I looked
at the weather, it's gonna be nice again. It's a
night game, and we need them to provide a home
field advantage. How do you think that would go over
in Austin, Texas? If the team were struggling in Sart
(05:41):
and said, hey, do you have a good time of
the game. Do you have a good time tailgating? Hey,
weather's good? Come on back, how do you think that
would go over here? Or College Station or Norman, Oklahoma,
or you know lots of places like that, Columbus, Ohio,
all those places I just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The message boards would burn down.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, that's pretty much.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What's happened that the servers could not withstand the pout
of turmoil to the message boards would cost it. I mean,
Neil Brown read the room, buddy. I mean last season
he went in on the hot seat already in West Virginia,
had a fantastic twenty twenty three, and so a lot
of hopes coming into this season. And they lost to
an Iowa State team that might be the best group
(06:24):
of five teams. They lost to a Penn State team
that's currently ranked number four, and lost to a pit
team that's not too bad. So they're not an awful team.
But as a power for head coach, you're asking, did
you have a good time dining camping? Didn't go camping?
You played a college football game?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Neil Brown, so fans responded angrily, He actually said this.
He actually said this after the game. Okay, So then
at his news conference he got asked about it. Did
you mean to say and and so on and so
for and so then the reporter who asked a question
(07:05):
Monday to post on social media that he honestly didn't
plan to stir anything up. I thought it was a
simple question. And so he also said, hey, we have
a tough schedule, and the three teams that have beaten
West Virginia the season are all undefeated, and I think
those are what Pitt, Penn State and Iowa State good teams, right,
(07:27):
he said quote That's not an excuse, it's just the truth.
The games in our league are going to come down
to the fourth quarter, and I don't think this one
on Saturday is going to be any different. So we
need the fans to help us. I do get their frustration,
but I don't think when you watch our product, I
don't think the product is something that they should be
other than the outcome. It was an entertaining football game.
(07:50):
If you're a football fan and just watching that, it's
pretty entertaining. We just didn't play well enough to win.
So I would hope with that in mind, they would
come back for another entertaining game that hopefully we can
play better at the end and win. Good football. I
know we didn't win, but good football.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Imagine Defendable said that on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, so.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Olthough, I think that I think your fans had fun
of the State Fair.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did you get did you guys get a corn dog,
corn Dog, You did you? Did you ride the Texas Star?
Did you have a good time?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And there's some statements that will travel with the coach
for the rest of their life. You know, good things,
bad things.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I always think about Tom Herman and winning his hard
You as any Texas fan there, you got what's the
most famous thing Tom Herman said? Winning his heart? That
and okay cool hook him? The two things in for
Tom Herman. He's probably he's a great, fantastic he's a
great football mind, but he's always going to have that
attached to him. Now, Neil Brown, did you have fun?
Did you always be associated with Neil Well?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And and and if we're being real here, Herman's okay
cool hook him. A lot of fans like that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, so positive, Yeah, positive that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, swinning is hard. Yeah, that didn't go over too well.
It was that all right? Anyway, coming up, we're gonna
hear from Quinn rs Long, Orange quarterback coming off of
the win on Saturday, where Quinn was being if we're
being honest, said I didn't play my best, but my
teammates picked me up. I hope I turned that back around.
(09:29):
So that's coming up when we continue here on this
Tuesday afternoon on sports Radio AM thirteen under the zone
of the iHeartRadio app.
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