November 6, 2024 • 12 mins
Hour 2 of Wednesday's show.
Craig and Cam continue to run down the College Football Playoff rankings and their biggest takeaways.
Craig and Cam continue to run down the College Football Playoff rankings and their biggest takeaways.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Craigway alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Glad to have you
alongside as well, and we're with you up until five
o'clock and a reminder. Longhorn Weekly with coach Sark returns tonight.
We had Pluckers the West Campus location, so we record
the program from six until seven. There it's at twenty
two to twenty two Rio Grand, so we record the
(00:21):
program from six o'clock to seven o'clock at Pluckers eighty
Well Air tomorrow night Thursday night at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Before we jumped to the college football play.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
There's one thing I didn't get a chance to get
to yesterday and wanted to do it. Did you see
the news about Zella's hicks? I did, Yeah, for folks
who didn't hear, he's ranked as the number one safety
in the ESPN twenty twenty six recruiting class signing class.
(00:52):
But he's planning to recycle, reclassify, excuse me, into the
twenty twenty five cycle and he's going to roll in
Texas next year.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So six two.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hundred ninety pounds from Carrollton, Georgia have been committed to Texas.
In September twelfth, when he picked the Long Orange over Georgia,
Ohio State and USC Hicks totally ESPN. He's not determined
yet whether he'll enroll at Texas in the spring or summer,
but he confirmed that his commitment to the Long Orange
remains solid ahead of the start of the early signing period.
So he's planning not only on signing on December fourth,
(01:27):
but then reporting whether it be in the spring or
the summer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, a huge, a huge move for Blake. Gideon Sark
to get him to reclassify four star right now. I
think some some spots have him as a five. I
think Rivals has him as a five star. With six
foot two, one hundred and eighty six pounds, he's got
a big, big wink winkspan, very instinctual football player. He's
(01:51):
known for being a short tackler, can play above his weight,
a good blitzer. He's been labeled as a good man
to men defender. So this is someone that I think
this staff is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Very high on.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And hey, get him into year early, get them maybe
come in early, you know, and and help him develop.
You know, we heard Sark talk about Xavier Fills with me.
The five stars safety came in and Sark mentioned him
by name this week on Monday as someone who's continued
to develop and get better and Xaper might you know,
play a big role for Texas down the stretch. So
it's you know, the development of these players is very
(02:25):
key but huge protext as a part of their twenty
twenty five class.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
If you'd like to let us hear your thoughts, your questions,
your opinions on anything. First of all, you could voice
it to us on the using the talk back feature
in the iHeart Radio app. You just download the iHeart
Radio app if you haven't already onto your smartphone, and
then you search AM thirteen under the zone an easy
fine there and then there's a little red button with
a white microphone and you click on that and you
(02:51):
can leave us a message of up to thirty seconds
talk about, Hey, I think I think the playoff rankings
were whack or this or that or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You can do it that way.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You can also text the program text the word Texas
followed by your question or comment to eight one five
three zero. That's the word Texas followed by your question
or comment to eight one five three zero.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Standard messaging and data age may apply.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, we got to do it a little bit in
the first hour, but I wanted to get in a
little more, a little greater detailing that the first College
Football Playoff rankings, and I was amused by what you said.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
There is the considerable outrage what was going on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The first thing that was really funny was Booger McFarlane
saying that Indiana has been the most disrespected team through
all of this. Joey Gallaway just calmly looked at him
and said, how can they be disrespected? They haven't released,
they haven't released this thing. Well, they've been disrespected. This
(03:47):
is the first release and they weren't disrespected. They were
eight in that I didn't think. I thought the Big
ten got quite a bit of respect off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They did.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I know some folks thought that BYU and the Big
twelve maybe didn't get it. And then there was an
interesting piece this morning that I read from Bill Connley,
when of the College Football staff writers, and he said,
here's a sentence I never thought i'd type first indications
this year, or that the CFP committee might be underrating
(04:22):
the SEC. I laughed when I saw that, and he
said a few years ago I learned that by combining
poll averages the AP and the coaches polls with a
computer average derived from both the power ratings the SP
plus and the FBI and resume ratings resume sp plus
and strength the record, we could approximate the College Football
(04:42):
Committee thinking pretty well, this almost BCS style rating lined
up with what the committee produces most of the time
enough so that when the committee straight into something different,
it's to it out. And if the Committee was looking
at things differently this time around, in theory, that might
stand out too. So if they used that BCS style approach,
(05:06):
it would be as followers. For example, Oregon would be one,
Georgia would be two, but in the college Football playoff
rankings they had them three. They had them flip flop
of Ohio State. According to what would be the BCS
style rankings, Ohio State would have been third. They're number
two in last night's rankings released, Miami for Texas fifth
that held through both Tennessee sixth, although it's seventh in
(05:30):
last night's rankings, Penn State seventh, number six in last
night's rankings, Indiana eighth, Notre Dame ninth, number ten in
last night's rankings, and b YU tenth number nine in
the College Football Playoff rankings, and a lot of people thought,
b why you was, you know whatever, disrespected.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But if you used.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The formula that had been using for the four team
playoffs all the way up through last year, they'd be tenth,
and the CFP has them ninth. So I don't know
where you go with regard to you know, BYU being
disrespected or whatever it might be. But and again this
(06:10):
was something Kirkharvestree was not on the program last night.
But even though he wasn't on the program last night,
Joey Galloway said, Kirk Hurvestree, this is where he would say,
it's only the first set of rankings and try not to,
(06:30):
you know, put too much emotion or too much angst
into this in these first ones. You know, clearly they
take a lot of the Big ten, the top two
or big ten. And then he have Penn State at six,
and you have Indiana eight. They have four in the
top eight there. The SEC they have Georgia at three,
(06:51):
Texas at five, Tennessee at seven, so they have three
in the top ten there. And then they have Alabama's
the next one at eleven. So they have four teams
that would be in the bracket if it were released today.
If that was the bracket, along with four Big Ten schoals,
that would occupy eight of the twelve slots if it
(07:14):
were to happening. So I don't know that the SEC
is necessarily disrespected either or underrated.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
As Bill Connley wrote.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It, well, I think the big winners from this obviously
are the Big Ten. But because the SEC like Tennessee
and Georgia, Alabama, LSU, all miss A, and m they're
all going to beat up on each other because most
of them have to play each other head to head,
if not once, at least twice. But for Penn State,
they don't play anyone else on their schedule. It's a
very easy schedule. Indiana only has Ohio State, and if
(07:43):
Ohio State wins out, they'll be in the Big Ten
Championship with Oregon, and their toughest test is an Indiana
team that has the one hundred and third toughest schedule
in the country, So a cakewalk in Penn State at
six too. So I mean, even if Indiana loses to
Ohio State, I mean it looks like they're probably going
to stay in that top twelve. But you know, Alabama
(08:05):
has to play LSU. You still have some big games
for Georgia and Ole Miss in Tennessee. So it does
feel like Craig that the Big ten is going to
get a minimum of four teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think that the Big twelve has already had
a great deal of cannibalization. That's why it only b
Whyu's been able to stay above the fray. But since
Iowa State lost, since Kansas State lost, you know, both
of those teams got to beat and now Colorado on
the rise a little bit. Albeit with two losses. It
(08:40):
does chake things up a bit. It's going to get
more and more interesting for Colorado. They play in Lubbock
this Saturday against Texas Tech Tech riding high coming off
the road win at Iowa State. But Colorado has a pathway,
as does mathematically Texas Tech to get to the Big
twelve championship game. Then if you win the Big twelve
(09:02):
championship game, you're in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
So did you mess with that on the simulator last night,
Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I didn't have the Big twelve simulator out. I was
just looking at the SEC.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I probably should look at that big that's bound to
be a box of chocolates.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That could be pretty interesting there.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
With regard to Colorado, And how about Washington State, they're ranked,
i mean twenty first in playoffs. Well, they've got they've
got some quality wins. But here's the thing about Washington State.
They they're not in a conference, so they'd really have
to climb the ladder pretty high up.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What does the committee hate Vanderbilt? Why do they hate them? Yeah?
Not okay.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If anyone should be upset, it's Vanderbilt being left out
of the top twenty five. You're telling me the Commodoes
aren't a top twenty five team in the country.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, here's the one thing I did notice about the
committee last night is that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And this came up.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Rech Davis had thought made a great point when he
said the committee changes members over time, and sometimes the
ideology changes a little bit. What I mean by this
is that it's gone from having value placed on wins
(10:20):
to a more punitive effect on how damaging your loss is.
And I think that's the thing. You know, Notre Dame
is ten. They have easily the worst loss in the
whole thing to Northern Illinois, and now the win of
a Navy doesn't look as good since Navy lost to
Rice last Saturday, but they have a big win in
College Station that helps so and then of course a
(10:43):
lot of this again, we'll take care of itself when
the Army.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Plays in Notre Dame in a couple of weeks off
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But the Big twelve has already kind of feasted on
each other a little bit, and it's knocked each other
down some. And that's why you have those schools down
where they are b why you will may well be
could be the only Big twelve school getting in there,
depending on what else happens the rest of the way.
And I'm curious to see what happens with SMU because
they have, as we mentioned, a clear path to getting
(11:11):
into the a SEC Championship. So say they do against Miami,
and say Miami beats them, and maybe it's a competitive game.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, SMU is thirteen right now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
If they get into the a SEC Championship game, I
think by then they'll be in the top twelve. But
the question is will they fall out with the loss?
And that was one of the things that we pointed
out yesterday. The Rich Clark, the executive director said when
he was on with us and on that webinar last week,
that it would not necessarily be that punitive for schools
(11:44):
who get into their conference championship game and have one
more loss being compared to a school from that same
league who didn't advance to the conference championship. And I
can tell you right now, you know he's talking about there.
He's talking about the SEC and the Big ten. Those
are the US, about the other Power two's and certainly
not so much about the G five. That's about the
(12:06):
Big ten in the SEC, about whether you you know,
you get into the conference championship game and they lose.
Because I see a lot of long WRN fans on
social media go, you know, it's better if we just
don't make the SEC championship, you know, and risk another
loss to Georgia. Better just to sit outside at three
Rich Clarks is not necessarily depends on how the game goes.
(12:26):
You're not gonna tell that the teams anyway. They want
to get into the conference championship game and have a
shot to win.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Coming up, we're gonna hear from the coach of the
Texas Long Words. Some comments from Long Horns head coach
Steve Sarkisian when we continue on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the zone in the IR radio app.
Craigway alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Glad to have you
alongside as well, and we're with you up until five
o'clock and a reminder. Longhorn Weekly with coach Sark returns tonight.
We had Pluckers the West Campus location, so we record
the program from six until seven. There it's at twenty
two to twenty two Rio Grand, so we record the
(00:21):
program from six o'clock to seven o'clock at Pluckers eighty
Well Air tomorrow night Thursday night at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Before we jumped to the college football play.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
There's one thing I didn't get a chance to get
to yesterday and wanted to do it. Did you see
the news about Zella's hicks? I did, Yeah, for folks
who didn't hear, he's ranked as the number one safety
in the ESPN twenty twenty six recruiting class signing class.
(00:52):
But he's planning to recycle, reclassify, excuse me, into the
twenty twenty five cycle and he's going to roll in
Texas next year.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So six two.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hundred ninety pounds from Carrollton, Georgia have been committed to Texas.
In September twelfth, when he picked the Long Orange over Georgia,
Ohio State and USC Hicks totally ESPN. He's not determined
yet whether he'll enroll at Texas in the spring or summer,
but he confirmed that his commitment to the Long Orange
remains solid ahead of the start of the early signing period.
So he's planning not only on signing on December fourth,
(01:27):
but then reporting whether it be in the spring or
the summer.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, a huge, a huge move for Blake. Gideon Sark
to get him to reclassify four star right now. I
think some some spots have him as a five. I
think Rivals has him as a five star. With six
foot two, one hundred and eighty six pounds, he's got
a big, big wink winkspan, very instinctual football player. He's
(01:51):
known for being a short tackler, can play above his weight,
a good blitzer. He's been labeled as a good man
to men defender. So this is someone that I think
this staff is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Very high on.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And hey, get him into year early, get them maybe
come in early, you know, and and help him develop.
You know, we heard Sark talk about Xavier Fills with me.
The five stars safety came in and Sark mentioned him
by name this week on Monday as someone who's continued
to develop and get better and Xaper might you know,
play a big role for Texas down the stretch. So
it's you know, the development of these players is very
(02:25):
key but huge protext as a part of their twenty
twenty five class.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
If you'd like to let us hear your thoughts, your questions,
your opinions on anything. First of all, you could voice
it to us on the using the talk back feature
in the iHeart Radio app. You just download the iHeart
Radio app if you haven't already onto your smartphone, and
then you search AM thirteen under the zone an easy
fine there and then there's a little red button with
a white microphone and you click on that and you
(02:51):
can leave us a message of up to thirty seconds
talk about, Hey, I think I think the playoff rankings
were whack or this or that or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You can do it that way.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You can also text the program text the word Texas
followed by your question or comment to eight one five
three zero. That's the word Texas followed by your question
or comment to eight one five three zero.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Standard messaging and data age may apply.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, we got to do it a little bit in
the first hour, but I wanted to get in a
little more, a little greater detailing that the first College
Football Playoff rankings, and I was amused by what you said.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
There is the considerable outrage what was going on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The first thing that was really funny was Booger McFarlane
saying that Indiana has been the most disrespected team through
all of this. Joey Gallaway just calmly looked at him
and said, how can they be disrespected? They haven't released,
they haven't released this thing. Well, they've been disrespected. This
(03:47):
is the first release and they weren't disrespected. They were
eight in that I didn't think. I thought the Big
ten got quite a bit of respect off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They did.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I know some folks thought that BYU and the Big
twelve maybe didn't get it. And then there was an
interesting piece this morning that I read from Bill Connley,
when of the College Football staff writers, and he said,
here's a sentence I never thought i'd type first indications
this year, or that the CFP committee might be underrating
(04:22):
the SEC. I laughed when I saw that, and he
said a few years ago I learned that by combining
poll averages the AP and the coaches polls with a
computer average derived from both the power ratings the SP
plus and the FBI and resume ratings resume sp plus
and strength the record, we could approximate the College Football
(04:42):
Committee thinking pretty well, this almost BCS style rating lined
up with what the committee produces most of the time
enough so that when the committee straight into something different,
it's to it out. And if the Committee was looking
at things differently this time around, in theory, that might
stand out too. So if they used that BCS style approach,
(05:06):
it would be as followers. For example, Oregon would be one,
Georgia would be two, but in the college Football playoff
rankings they had them three. They had them flip flop
of Ohio State. According to what would be the BCS
style rankings, Ohio State would have been third. They're number
two in last night's rankings released, Miami for Texas fifth
that held through both Tennessee sixth, although it's seventh in
(05:30):
last night's rankings, Penn State seventh, number six in last
night's rankings, Indiana eighth, Notre Dame ninth, number ten in
last night's rankings, and b YU tenth number nine in
the College Football Playoff rankings, and a lot of people thought,
b why you was, you know whatever, disrespected.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But if you used.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The formula that had been using for the four team
playoffs all the way up through last year, they'd be tenth,
and the CFP has them ninth. So I don't know
where you go with regard to you know, BYU being
disrespected or whatever it might be. But and again this
(06:10):
was something Kirkharvestree was not on the program last night.
But even though he wasn't on the program last night,
Joey Galloway said, Kirk Hurvestree, this is where he would say,
it's only the first set of rankings and try not to,
(06:30):
you know, put too much emotion or too much angst
into this in these first ones. You know, clearly they
take a lot of the Big ten, the top two
or big ten. And then he have Penn State at six,
and you have Indiana eight. They have four in the
top eight there. The SEC they have Georgia at three,
(06:51):
Texas at five, Tennessee at seven, so they have three
in the top ten there. And then they have Alabama's
the next one at eleven. So they have four teams
that would be in the bracket if it were released today.
If that was the bracket, along with four Big Ten schoals,
that would occupy eight of the twelve slots if it
(07:14):
were to happening. So I don't know that the SEC
is necessarily disrespected either or underrated.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
As Bill Connley wrote.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It, well, I think the big winners from this obviously
are the Big Ten. But because the SEC like Tennessee
and Georgia, Alabama, LSU, all miss A, and m they're
all going to beat up on each other because most
of them have to play each other head to head,
if not once, at least twice. But for Penn State,
they don't play anyone else on their schedule. It's a
very easy schedule. Indiana only has Ohio State, and if
(07:43):
Ohio State wins out, they'll be in the Big Ten
Championship with Oregon, and their toughest test is an Indiana
team that has the one hundred and third toughest schedule
in the country, So a cakewalk in Penn State at
six too. So I mean, even if Indiana loses to
Ohio State, I mean it looks like they're probably going
to stay in that top twelve. But you know, Alabama
(08:05):
has to play LSU. You still have some big games
for Georgia and Ole Miss in Tennessee. So it does
feel like Craig that the Big ten is going to
get a minimum of four teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think that the Big twelve has already had
a great deal of cannibalization. That's why it only b
Whyu's been able to stay above the fray. But since
Iowa State lost, since Kansas State lost, you know, both
of those teams got to beat and now Colorado on
the rise a little bit. Albeit with two losses. It
(08:40):
does chake things up a bit. It's going to get
more and more interesting for Colorado. They play in Lubbock
this Saturday against Texas Tech Tech riding high coming off
the road win at Iowa State. But Colorado has a pathway,
as does mathematically Texas Tech to get to the Big
twelve championship game. Then if you win the Big twelve
(09:02):
championship game, you're in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
So did you mess with that on the simulator last night,
Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I didn't have the Big twelve simulator out. I was
just looking at the SEC.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I probably should look at that big that's bound to
be a box of chocolates.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That could be pretty interesting there.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
With regard to Colorado, And how about Washington State, they're ranked,
i mean twenty first in playoffs. Well, they've got they've
got some quality wins. But here's the thing about Washington State.
They they're not in a conference, so they'd really have
to climb the ladder pretty high up.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What does the committee hate Vanderbilt? Why do they hate them? Yeah?
Not okay.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
If anyone should be upset, it's Vanderbilt being left out
of the top twenty five. You're telling me the Commodoes
aren't a top twenty five team in the country.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, here's the one thing I did notice about the
committee last night is that.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And this came up.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Rech Davis had thought made a great point when he
said the committee changes members over time, and sometimes the
ideology changes a little bit. What I mean by this
is that it's gone from having value placed on wins
(10:20):
to a more punitive effect on how damaging your loss is.
And I think that's the thing. You know, Notre Dame
is ten. They have easily the worst loss in the
whole thing to Northern Illinois, and now the win of
a Navy doesn't look as good since Navy lost to
Rice last Saturday, but they have a big win in
College Station that helps so and then of course a
(10:43):
lot of this again, we'll take care of itself when
the Army.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Plays in Notre Dame in a couple of weeks off
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But the Big twelve has already kind of feasted on
each other a little bit, and it's knocked each other
down some. And that's why you have those schools down
where they are b why you will may well be
could be the only Big twelve school getting in there,
depending on what else happens the rest of the way.
And I'm curious to see what happens with SMU because
they have, as we mentioned, a clear path to getting
(11:11):
into the a SEC Championship. So say they do against Miami,
and say Miami beats them, and maybe it's a competitive game.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, SMU is thirteen right now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
If they get into the a SEC Championship game, I
think by then they'll be in the top twelve. But
the question is will they fall out with the loss?
And that was one of the things that we pointed
out yesterday. The Rich Clark, the executive director said when
he was on with us and on that webinar last week,
that it would not necessarily be that punitive for schools
(11:44):
who get into their conference championship game and have one
more loss being compared to a school from that same
league who didn't advance to the conference championship. And I
can tell you right now, you know he's talking about there.
He's talking about the SEC and the Big ten. Those
are the US, about the other Power two's and certainly
not so much about the G five. That's about the
(12:06):
Big ten in the SEC, about whether you you know,
you get into the conference championship game and they lose.
Because I see a lot of long WRN fans on
social media go, you know, it's better if we just
don't make the SEC championship, you know, and risk another
loss to Georgia. Better just to sit outside at three
Rich Clarks is not necessarily depends on how the game goes.
(12:26):
You're not gonna tell that the teams anyway. They want
to get into the conference championship game and have a
shot to win.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Coming up, we're gonna hear from the coach of the
Texas Long Words. Some comments from Long Horns head coach
Steve Sarkisian when we continue on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the zone in the IR radio app.
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