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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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and they have a fought on and a comment on it. Okay,
so it came brought it up. It went four overtimes.
I remember, this is not the longest overtime game Texas
A and it was played. In fact, it was their
game on Thanksgiving weekend against LSU what I think three
years ago, that went seven overtimes. That was kind of
the final straw. There had already been some movement behind
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trying to find a different way to settle tie games,
and it was agreed upon afterwards. What they would do
is they would start like they had been doing in overtime.
You start from the twenty five yard line and teams
can try to go in and score, and if it's
still tied, then you would go to a secon overtime.
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But the second one you were compelled to go for
two on that and that second overtime, and if you
were still tied, then starting on the third overtime, you
would be forced to go for it two point conversion.
It's kind of like penalty kicks and soccer. That's basically
what it boiled down to. So it seems like we
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get our strongest reactions to this when there is a
game that ends like what Texas A and m Auburn
did the other night. He went four overtimes, and you
heard from both sides or people saying it's ridiculous. Way
you can't just have to play a game. You cannot
in a game like that. Then the other side saying,
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what are you going to do? You can't have seven
overtimes again, That's why it has been settled the way
it has been settled. There are people that like the
NFL overtime rule where if one team gets a touchdown,
it's over. If one team gets a field goal, the
other team gets a possession it Okay, so this thing,
let's break this down individually. How would you, first of all,
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settle the NFL overtime rule?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
How would you use you get both teams possession on
the opponents?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think forty yard.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Line, okay, each get a possession, possession, just go from there.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And if say it took a team seven plays to
get in and they did score touchdown from the forty,
and the other team needed six plays to get in
and they did from the forty.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Then you go back and do it all over again. Yeah.
I think so Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So in other words, you'd get rid of the clock,
which would mean there would be no more tie games. Yeah,
if that were the case, unless you said, hey, you
get one possession and if you're still even, then it
finishes as a tie.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think ties are just very stupid.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, just still have ties, Like, come on, okay, what
are we doing here at Goodell?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, all right, it's competition to many the other the
ones decide all that they do that, but the owners
are part of the competition committee, and they answered to
Goodell or Goodell answers to them. Okay, college football, it's fine,
don't change it, don't change it. Yeah, so they're going
for twos starting on the third every time. You're good
with fine, Okay, I like the old way, but I
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understand the player's safety stuff and all that, So I
think this is a pretty good format.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
When I was in high school, this was in the
late seventies, it first started. They brought up with the system.
And I don't know if they still do this system.
If they did it when you were in high school,
how do you recall how you did overtime in high school?
When you were in high school, I.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Think my high school ever played in an overtime game?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Were they not good? They're fine?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh okay, all right, But it just wasn't glued into
high school football North Carolina that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's pretty good. It's not.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's not Texas and tell you that, but it's pretty
good high school for anyway, when I was in high school,
the way that they brought and I saw. The reason
why I thought about this is I saw somebody's suggestion
on social media, and I think it was on the
athletic and I think they were trying. They the person
who wrote this might have been thinking they were coming
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up with an original idea. And it's not original. It's
exactly what we did in North Carolina in the late seventies.
Four downs from the ten yard line.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Four downs if you score, the other team has four downs.
If it's still tied, you do it again. But you
do it from the ten yard line. You don't have
as many plays, and you might have a chance to
get it done quicker. It also might compel a team.
Let's say they're at the four or the three and
it's come down the fourth down.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Do you kick the field goal?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If you had the first possession or do you risk
going for it four downs from the ten.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's not a bad idea. I don't know that that is.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And then I saw Scott Van Pelt going off on
the whole thing, you know, and he said, start at
the fifty, begainning if you started.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, that makes more sense because I think why
I did, why I say forty to forty five is
because you get a few yards. I mean you're already
if you start at midfield. I mean technically you might
be in Brandon Arby's fieldal range. Yeah, but college kickers,
you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Also, you could have protracted drives after they've played four
of course, that's why they went away from the four
downs of the twenty five when they played seven overtimes
between Texas A and M and LSU. I don't know
if there's a there's a good way. I do think this.
I don't think you put a clock on it, because
if you put a clock on it, then you're bringing
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in the specter of the game ending in a tie,
and nobody wants that. So so I'm with you on
the NFL. I don't think we should have tie games.
But you know they're not gonna they don't want to
risk injury beyond that. So I'd be for four downs
from the ten yard line. I think you might, you know,
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you know, but if teams are really scoring really easily,
they'd probably be able to continue to score from the
ten line. Maybe you can compel them to go for two.
Just go for two, not just a string of two
point conversions. Just make him start having to go for
two afterwards.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I think if we went to that in third over
time instead of the two point conversion of the ten
yard line, I think that that'd be good.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So anyway, all right, so there's some thoughts on that
Alabama out of the SEC Championship mix, and most would
say it's amazing to read. Some people were just refused
to just don't want to let go of it. I
know you joked about a three year or four loss
Alabama team getting in and here we.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Are, Craig ESPN. Yeah, with an article this morning could
have three loss Alabama team just a college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You just knew that that was probably gonna have put
it this way. The only way I could possibly see
that happening is a lot of carnage this weekend and
in the conference championship games, although you're a limited amount
of damage you can have left remaining in the conference
championship games. But uh, it's not just that Alabama's lost
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three times, it's who they've lost to.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, if people are going to bag.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
On Texas for quote unquote beating Vanderbilt a lightweight, then
Alabama has to be given every bit as much discredit
for losing to them. And and you know, they lost
to Tennessee, which was a good team instill in the MiGs.
But to lose to a team that was at the
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bottom of the Big twelve at Big twelve the SEC standings, Oklahoma, No,
you got to be penalized for that. So I think
I read it where somebody else said at some point
and if people want to get on Texas and they
say the schedule strength isn't there, Uh, here's some facts.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Here's some facts.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
These are actual numbers, So you know what you want
their strength, This schedule is actually thirty eighth. It's not awful.
It's not ninety. It's not Indiana as one hundred and
six or whatever it was. It's thirty eighth. Not only
that Texas owns more wins over teams that are currently
Bowl eligible than any in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They have seven over teams that are Bowl eligible.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now, make of that what you will, but at least
that's a number that's accurate. It's not an opinion based
on a poll, so you know whatever. In the case
the long words, it really doesn't matter that much right now.
If they beat Texas A and M. A and M
on Saturday, A, we know they're in the SEC Championship
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game and B I'd say they're pretty much a lock
to be in the playoff. Even if they lose to Georgia.
It's two losses at that point to a good football team,
the same one bow times. So probably I'd say there's
a real good shot there in if they win this Saturday.
If they lose, different issue, got to see what else happens.
Because A and M is in the position now where
they have to win out to get in. They've got
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three losses right now, they're not getting in at four losses.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What happens if Texas loses to A and M, and
an A and M loses to Georgia, the Texas who
lost to A M get in over A and M.
I would say that's the two minus one theory. They
have one lost to A and M, but they are
two games ahead of them in terms of fewer losses,
so they're probably going to get in. That's that's not me.
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I'm telling you what. The committee is valuing on wins
and losses. So that'll bring about a bunch of grumbling
and you know, moaning and all that kind of stuff.
But it wouldn't be the first time a team got
in over another team after losing to them. And you know,
during the season, we're in a conference championship game. It's
happened before, it'll happen again. But Texas can avoid that
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with a win on Saturday, and then it takes that
out of the equation and it pretty much locks it
up that Texas and Georgia are both going to wind
up in the playoff. Ole Miss has played its way
out of it. Lane Kiffin last week, let's talk about coach,
you don't want to play in that SEC championship game.
You lose, you're out. The risk reward isn't good. Well,
he doesn't have to worry about that anymore. He'll be
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in the Citrus or the Gate or one of the
others and it's not downgrading any of those bowl games.
By the way, Texas could wind up in one of those.
I'm just saying they're not going to be in the
SEC Championship and they're not going to be in the playoff.
And I'd say it's about ninety seven percent certain that
Alabama's not getting in either in the playoff. I only
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say ninety seven percent because it's Alabama. And if you
had another crazy, crazy, crazy weekend, who knows, but what's
ironic And a lot of folks have said this the
weird stuff that happened in the SEC ole miss losing
to Florida, Alabama losing to Oklahoma, Texas A and m
losing Oliver you know who that helped Indiana. Yeah, they
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lost to Ohio State and they had about one hundred
and fifty one yards total offense, got thumped, scored the
first touchdown and then the last touchdown.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
That was about it. But you only have the one loss.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They are really good Ohio State team and they're not
going to play in the Big Ten Championship. They just
have to make sure their biggest worry is the ACC
because if SMU and Miami both win this week, play
in the ACC Championship and SMU wins that game, Indiana's
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probably out because then SMU and Miami both get in
at that point. But it's going to be interesting to
see and the Big Twelve may well have played its
way right into the first round and no buye that's
what happens with the BYU lost Arizona State. What a
crazy thing that was with the fans storming the field twice,
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yet that you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
See they was on a State student that was hiding
in the medical tent. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That was pretty pretty clever thinking, pretty clever thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
While it worked.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And then Kansas beating Colorado, so dion Mania will kind
of die die down a little bit. They're still mathematically
alive to get in the Big Twelve Championship. But if
i a state which was able to creep past Utah,
if i was State win's Farmageddon this week, if they
beat Kansas State and Arizona State wins the Territorial Cup,
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which they probably will and beats Arizona, you and if
Iowa stayed against Arizona State in the Big Twelve Championship,
and with Boise continuing on a rise, there's a decent
chance the Boise will be past both of those teams
and get a buye then and then the Big twelve
champ will have to play in.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The first round.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So that's kind of what's on the table, and that's
kind of what's a mess right now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Up next, we'll hear more from Longwarren
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