December 10, 2024 • 20 mins
Hear more from Clemson head football coach Dabo Swinney as he talked about facing former Tiger safety Andrew Mukuba and the return of Cade Klubnik to Austin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here on this tax on Tuesday, all right, Texas Longers
getting ready to take on the Clemson Tigers, and Da
Blushweeney did a did a media zoom.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
After the announcement came down on.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Sunday, we played you several of his comments, but there
were a few more we wanted you to hear because
they do have connection here. First of all, remember that
Andrew mccubaugh LBJ product of course, started his collegiate career
at Clemson and played there for three years and then
transferred and.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Coach. When he was asked what stood out about mccouba
the most when he was recruiting him, Man, I love Macoopa.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He was a very unique situation.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know, I never met mccuba ever until the day
he showed up on campus. You know that was all
the COVID and all that. You know, never was able
to go see him. He was never able to visit campus,
but he wanted to come to Clemson, and you know,
just I just loved his spirit and I loved his heart,
and you know, he was just a really neat kid
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that that you know, I mean, it was I mean,
it's one of the that that whole time was one
of the strangest times of my life, because you know,
recruiting is a very personal thing and you get people
come to campus and you go there.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Literally the first time I ever.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Met him was when he got dropped off and we
had everybody had to have the COVID protocols in place
because that's when he came in. And uh, Man Andrew
was a great player for us. Uh he did everything
that was asked to him. He worked his butt off
here and uh you know, certainly, you know wish he
had had we'd been able to to finish here. But listen, Uh,
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you know these guys, I mean there's he did everything
that was asked to him at Clemson and uh he
gave a lot to this program and.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And made a bunch of big plays.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'm happy for him, you know, for him, he had
the opportunity, he wanted something a change, and it was
an opportunity for him to go back home and and
he's had a great year.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He's an outstanding football.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Player and uh, you know, hopefully we were able to
to help him develop, but you know, happy that he's
been able to have a great year. And you know,
just kind of ironic that we're meeting in the playoff.
But that's really you know, you'll see more of that
as the years go by, with with you know, guys
moving around from place to place. But I got nothing
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but but great great things to say about Coops.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Coops. Interesting not not Drew, Nope, Coops. Yeah, Coops.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's any whos that in the broadcast on the first
I will make reference to it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't think I'll be calling him Coops.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't think your calls would be great with
you know, Coobs yea.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
By the way, I've got a couple of questions about this,
and I'm glad you brought this up, if indirectly. Folks
have asked me about names that I've called certain players
during the year and how it's kind of changed. When
the year began for Texas, we were calling number two
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of the wide receiver Matthew Golden. We called him Matthew Golden.
We were still call him Matthew Golden. Then sark I
noticed every time on the show and they kept saying Matt,
Matt and Matt did this Matt, So we asked Matthew
Golden in a postgame show. I think this was might
have been the OU game, the OU game or the
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Vanderbilt game. Anyway, we asked him, hey, we've heard matt
We've heard Matthew. His actual words were, I mean, it's
on the postgame locker room show.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You can hear him.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And he said, yeah, I prefer Matt on the same
postgame in or you we had Quin Travian Wisner. Now,
I've known young mister Wiseman for several years now, going
back to those high school days at the Souta and
did games that he played in the SODA, including state championship.
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And we were told from day one it's Trey Trey Wisner.
That's what his coach, Claud Mathis told us. And then
so but there was enough doubt cast on this, so
I asked him that interview. I said, are you preferring
Quin Travian or trade? Because no, no, no, no, it's Trey.
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I said, okay, fine, I just wanted to make sure.
So then I passed this along to Football media Relations
and they were like stunned, and so no, no, no, we
were told it's Matthew, and we were told it's Quintravian.
And I said, you might want to ask him again
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because that's what And then sure enough, what ultimately came
down to is we were told later it is Matthew
and it is Quintravian because that's what their parents want.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Now, we had that several years ago with Aj Williams.
Aaron Williams, the defensive back from McNeil to play for Texas,
and he told all of his teammates and all of
us it was Aj. And so we're calling him Aj
during the season. And I got an email from his dad,
who I know, good dude, Eugenie. He said, hey, we
gave him it's his Christian based name, Aaron. We gave
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him that name for a reason. If you can please,
I said, sure, no problem. So I told that to
Mac Brown. I said, by the way, Aaron's dad he
goes Eugenie. I said yeah, he said, we'd prefer that
you call him Aaron and matt goes. Then they better
tell their kid because the kids tell him us to
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call him this. So what I've taken to doing is
I'll say Matthew Golden, I'll say quin Travian Wisner. I
do because that's what the parents are In a second
reference on a play, blah blah blah, quin Travian Riisinger
Weisner a big run out of the forty seven yard
line that dad they had to do, and.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Trey made a great cut.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, I'll do a second reference on that, just
to show respect to both.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Sides on that as easier to say Trey than it is.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well it is, and I don't have any problem with
saying Quin Travian. But but I've known Imonstrations who was
in high school. So I think I can incorporate both
of those in there and still provide the proper context
on that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the same thing too with Matthew.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Golden and with with Trey, like we knew him by Trey,
because that's what when you you know, when he committed
the Texas and with with the Soto, the rosters, the
reporters all call them Trey.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Where would that come from?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
That would probably come from the player or the parents
telling the head coach at the Soto his name is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We call him Tray. That's what That's what it's all.
He's listed, Yeah, and that is what Sar calls him.
And that's what Claude math as his head coach of Pisodica,
they called him Tray. Now some of that may be
shortening it from football coaching perspective reasons. I get that,
but what raised the question in my mind also was
seeing that Network TV kept calling him Quin Travian, and
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I thought, are the being told that? And come to
find out they, in fact they were, So I can
respect that. I understand all that, and I'll call him
what his folks want me to call him and what
he wants to be known by as well. The best example,
and I think I've told this story before, the best
example of this is when Texas women's basketball had a
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player back around twenty ten, maybe twenty twelve. I'm trying
to remember Chastity Fazzelle, and she was good shooting guard.
She was from Tennessee. Her last name was spelled f Ussel,
and I was told it's Fazel, which is what I
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kind of thought it was. Some have said Fusell, but
I was calling Fazelle and I asked her she went
by Chaz A lot of it went I said Chaz, Well,
she said Fiselle.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I said, okay, So I called her that.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Then there was a game I had to miss, was
a tournament out Las Vegas, and our good friend John
and Danny was subbing for me out there, and he
kept calling her Fuzzle during the game Fuzzle Fuzzle, So
I called him after the game, I said, what's it
with the fuzzle thing?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Is?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, her dad came up to me, oh my goodness
and said, hey, our family name is Fuzzle.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Could you call her that? And uh? And he said okay.
So I thought, well, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So when they got back to town, I went up
to her and I said, hey, Chaz, tell me one
more time how to pronounce your last name. She goes,
Fuzzlle Like, I said, what's Fizzelle? And I said, well,
I said, apparently you know it was fuzzle. She goes,
did my dad say to do that? And I was like, well,
a matter of fact, he did. She goes, I don't
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care what he calls it. I'm calling it Fazelle. So
with even within the own family, there was disagreement over
how to pronounce her last name. So I went with
her wishes. Because she wasn't a miner anymore, she could
call herself what she wants, Fazzelle, So that's what That's
what it. But that was a little more detailed and
in depth in saying Countravian, shorteninging it to Trey or
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Matthew to Matt.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's just honoring a proper name. Wish there. So I
get that.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
The bottom line seems to be some sort of disconnect
between what the kid wants to be called and what
his or her parents want them to be.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And us as broadcasters or the university's media RELATIONSHTAFF kind
of get caught in the middle of that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And all that, and we get the Twitter, dms and
the emails. That's why I do both. That's why I
do both.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Figure out to please somebody, all right, But but I
don't think I'll be calling him Coobs Andrews.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I've called him Andrew all season long. I don't think
I'll call him Coobs.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
This is this is an answer to something you'd probably
expect this, uh, Like, for example, when Jerry Jones was
on last but when we had the sound bite last hour,
when he was asked about do you feel comfortable with
the game planning and the play calling and things like that,
it would be pretty easy for someone who is being
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asked that question to interpret it as you second guessing
them by the mere fact of Jason the question are
you happy? Are you happy with the game planning? Like
as opposed to not happening? So so it would be.
And that's why Jerry said, I understand their second guessing.
He said, I can hear you a second guess like
it like he's expecting it to be a second guess.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Then there's things like this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
A reporter asked Debo Sweeney if there were something extra
suite about the fact that they knocked Alabama out of
the playoffs. And I remember Dabo was a grad assistant
in Alabama. He's an Alabama grad, so you know, and
then it was going to come down to that at
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SMU and another ACC team gets in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So Dabo's asked, was there something extra sweet about knocking
Alabama out of the playoff? And that's the question was
being asked. I thought, I know where this answer is
going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
No. No, I mean that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, I mean, it's you obviously know somebody's not
gonna make it or whatever. But I just think that
a team shouldn't be punished for playing in the championship
game that's already in.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it just sets a really bad precedent.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I don't think teams should be rewarded for not making
their championship game, but teams are punished for making their championship.
Teams that are you know, we're in, like SMU, they're eight,
they're in. But now all of a sudden, you go
get beat in your championship game and you get punished
for that, but you got the same record as teams
that didn't make their championship. I just think that's a
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bad precedent. And you know, we can talk all about
what changes need to be made and this and that,
but you know, like I mean, honestly, the championship games.
I've heard all about the seeding and all that stuff.
I mean, like you you can't punish it. I mean,
if a team's gonna have to play an extra game,
thirteen games, then you have to give them a buy.
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You can't ask the team that's playing in a championship
to to then turn around and play another game when
they've won their championship and got to buy. You know,
I mean to me that that doesn't make any sense.
I mean, otherwise, just do away with the championship games,
make the championship weekend the first round, and then you
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just seed it however and you go from there. But
you know, somebody's always going to get left out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I've been a part.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Like I said, it's our seventh playoff and you know
we've been to sixth final four. So I've been a
part of you know, the five, six, seven, eight team
and now we're talking about you know, twelve teams.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It's going to go to fourteen or sixteen or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But no, I just think, I don't I don't you know,
I have no idea who's going to get left out.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And I just think it was the right thing. I mean,
they deserved it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I mean they had a great year and got being
on a fifty six yard field goal for three seconds
to go in a championship game that if they don't play,
they're in the playoff. So I just think, you know,
it's the right thing to do with the system that
we have in place currently.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, the key to those words there system that we
have in place currently, because and I agree with Dabosweeney
on all of this, that you can't take a team
like SMU that's in the field at number eight then
because they qualify to play the conference championship game and lose,
it dropped them completely out. That said, the other side
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would say they shouldn't have been eight in the first place.
That the resume wasn't good enough to be number eight
in the first place, to where we're.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Even having this discussion.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's the discussion that the Playoff selection Committee is going
to have. In the playoff committee itself, overall, those who
run it are going to have to figure out whatever
tweaks and adjustments, if any need to be made, all right.
He was asked about his impressions of the Longhorns. What
were his impressions about the Texas team?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Shoot?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Man, Yeah, I haven't even had a chance to put
my eyes on them other than just you know what
I've seen, you know, like everybody else on TV and stuff.
But I mean they were a final four team last year,
so and now they're back in the playoffs. So I
think I think Sark's done an amazing job. He's recruited.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, they got a great roster, a very very
talented roster.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've got elite quarterback, play, explosive players outside. I mean,
this is a this is a complete football team every
sense of the work. So they're good enough to win
the whole thing, and we'll have our hands full for sure,
but excited to.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Go compete, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Certainly feeling like they have a chance in this game
to compete and it's good to hear him talk about
him in that respect. Now, except for Debo, there's this
deal not only with Andrew mccouba returning back home, and
of course he played at Clemson out Texas. Kate Klubnick,
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his quarterback, did not play Texas. He has only played
it Clemson. But he's from right here in the Austin
are as. We know the outstanding quarterback at Westlake led
him to a state championship.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
In fact, led him to a state championship.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
In January twenty twenty one there right in the middle
of the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So he got pushed back.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
He defeated South Lake Carrol, and he had all the
attention was focused on the fact that it was the
Dodge Bowl. You had Todd Dodge, they head coach at Westlake,
who was getting ready to step down, and you had
his son, Riley Dodge, who was the head coach at
South Lake Carrol where Todd had been and won state
titles with Riley as his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Included during the time as well as Greg McElroy.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chase Daniel had been quarterbacks the air for him at
South Lake Carrol, and of course he was wrapping up
his career at Westlake and they were taking on south
Lake Carrol and the quarterback at south Lake Errold that
year in that game.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Was Quinn Ewers.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Where's the quarterback Westlake was Kate klubnick Ers eventually matriculates
to Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Clubnick winds up at Clemson. He goes to Clemson and
has he.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Had that conversation had he at the time of this
with Kate Clubnick about returning to his home statement, returning
to the Austin area and taking on Texas.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, we hadn't discussed. We had no idea what was
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Honestly, we hadn't really spent any time discussing, you know, scenarios.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean we we literally go to bed at.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Like six thirty in the morning and we I was
back over there at ten thirty and we had eleven
forty five team meeting, and so we did.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
We did.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
We didn't have much time to discuss any scenarios, just
like like everybody else will find out what we're doing.
But when Texas came up, I mean, it was just
kind of like, oh, this is this is uh, it's amazing,
you know, because there's a lot of storylines. He's obviously
from Austin, went to West Lake there and you know,
one of the best quarterbacks to go out of the
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state of Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But also him and Quinn, you know, went head to
head a lot in high school.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So it's just a really uh you know, that's it's
all about the game, but that's just kind of a
cool storyline for our quarterback, you know, you know, you
just never know how things are going to work out
in this crazy game of college football.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And for him to be going to.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
His first playoff because we didn't make it in twenty
two we won the league, but we didn't make it,
and then last year we didn't make it. So his
first playoff in his first playoff game in Austin, Texas
where he grew up is uh, you know, you can't
make that up. So pretty cool, pretty cool for you know,
opportunity for him and his family, you know, to be
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able to go compete against Texas there in Austin.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And of course he's not the only player on the
roster from the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Returning home.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, Ian reied.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
In fact, in fact, the game that I saw Kate play, uh,
he was playing against Ian Reid in that game at
vandergriff there so in uh, what is the stadium there
at Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
What's the name of.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
It, Royal Texas Memorial Stadium, Royal.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Texas Memorial Statey.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Okay, so we were there at rural Rural Texas Memorial
Stadium and he was actually playing against Ian Reid. Obviously
Ian Reed's out for the year, but yeah, so pretty
cool opportunity for all those guys to be able to
go back home.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Noble Johnson, another guy, Corey and Gibson. Uh, we got
several Texas kids on our team that I know.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
That'll be a great thing for them to have a
chance to, you know, go play in the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And what does he remember about recruiting the guys from
the Austin area, namely Kate Klubni and Ian Reid from
vandergriff Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, just you know Kate, I mean, we offered
two quarterbacks in that that class.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We offered Tas Simpson.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Well, we offered Tyss Simpson first, and you know, I
kind of got to know Kate a little after that,
and basically we told Kate, hey, listen, uh because ty
was getting ready to make a decision and we're like, hey,
if he if he doesn't come our way, listen, you're
you're you're getting an offer. And he was like, and
Kate had you know, a million offers, but he was like,
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I want to come to Clemson.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And so you know, Tye went to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And literally the moment ty Simpson announced that he was
going to Alabama, I called Kate.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I was standing in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I said, well, all right, uh, here's your opportunity. You're
you're you've got the scholarship if you want it. And
he said, well, I'm coming to Clemson. And that was
really that simple. Uh that's what he wanted to do,
and you know, just worked out the way it was
supposed to. So that was that was that. And then
from ian standpoint, he was just a kid that we
got on and got him out here to to evaluate
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him and got to know his family and I just
really really loved everything about him. His brother's here playing
soccer as well. Uh so just a just a great family.
Unfortunate that he got hurt because they could have helped
us this year for sure, but he still got, you know,
four years in front of him because he'll get this
year back from a medical standpoint, So I thank when
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it's all said none, he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
For us, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So there it is, the comments there from Dabo Sweeney's
talking about Ian Reid. There, of course, the former outstanding
lineman from Vandergriff who is out injured for the year.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Vandergrift is still alive in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
The playoffs, by the way, and they're playing in McLean
Stadium and Wake on Saturday night against Summer Creek High
the Humble as d in the greater Houston area. All right,
coming up, we'll have more on the NFL when we
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Here on this tax on Tuesday, all right, Texas Longers
getting ready to take on the Clemson Tigers, and Da
Blushweeney did a did a media zoom.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
After the announcement came down on.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Sunday, we played you several of his comments, but there
were a few more we wanted you to hear because
they do have connection here. First of all, remember that
Andrew mccubaugh LBJ product of course, started his collegiate career
at Clemson and played there for three years and then
transferred and.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Coach. When he was asked what stood out about mccouba
the most when he was recruiting him, Man, I love Macoopa.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He was a very unique situation.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know, I never met mccuba ever until the day
he showed up on campus. You know that was all
the COVID and all that. You know, never was able
to go see him. He was never able to visit campus,
but he wanted to come to Clemson, and you know,
just I just loved his spirit and I loved his heart,
and you know, he was just a really neat kid
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that that you know, I mean, it was I mean,
it's one of the that that whole time was one
of the strangest times of my life, because you know,
recruiting is a very personal thing and you get people
come to campus and you go there.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Literally the first time I ever.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Met him was when he got dropped off and we
had everybody had to have the COVID protocols in place
because that's when he came in. And uh, Man Andrew
was a great player for us. Uh he did everything
that was asked to him. He worked his butt off
here and uh you know, certainly, you know wish he
had had we'd been able to to finish here. But listen, Uh,
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you know these guys, I mean there's he did everything
that was asked to him at Clemson and uh he
gave a lot to this program and.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And made a bunch of big plays.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'm happy for him, you know, for him, he had
the opportunity, he wanted something a change, and it was
an opportunity for him to go back home and and
he's had a great year.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He's an outstanding football.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Player and uh, you know, hopefully we were able to
to help him develop, but you know, happy that he's
been able to have a great year. And you know,
just kind of ironic that we're meeting in the playoff.
But that's really you know, you'll see more of that
as the years go by, with with you know, guys
moving around from place to place. But I got nothing
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but but great great things to say about Coops.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Coops. Interesting not not Drew, Nope, Coops. Yeah, Coops.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's any whos that in the broadcast on the first
I will make reference to it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't think I'll be calling him Coops.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't think your calls would be great with
you know, Coobs yea.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
By the way, I've got a couple of questions about this,
and I'm glad you brought this up, if indirectly. Folks
have asked me about names that I've called certain players
during the year and how it's kind of changed. When
the year began for Texas, we were calling number two
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of the wide receiver Matthew Golden. We called him Matthew Golden.
We were still call him Matthew Golden. Then sark I
noticed every time on the show and they kept saying Matt,
Matt and Matt did this Matt, So we asked Matthew
Golden in a postgame show. I think this was might
have been the OU game, the OU game or the
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Vanderbilt game. Anyway, we asked him, hey, we've heard matt
We've heard Matthew. His actual words were, I mean, it's
on the postgame locker room show.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You can hear him.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And he said, yeah, I prefer Matt on the same
postgame in or you we had Quin Travian Wisner. Now,
I've known young mister Wiseman for several years now, going
back to those high school days at the Souta and
did games that he played in the SODA, including state championship.
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And we were told from day one it's Trey Trey Wisner.
That's what his coach, Claud Mathis told us. And then
so but there was enough doubt cast on this, so
I asked him that interview. I said, are you preferring
Quin Travian or trade? Because no, no, no, no, it's Trey.
(04:33):
I said, okay, fine, I just wanted to make sure.
So then I passed this along to Football media Relations
and they were like stunned, and so no, no, no, we
were told it's Matthew, and we were told it's Quintravian.
And I said, you might want to ask him again
(04:54):
because that's what And then sure enough, what ultimately came
down to is we were told later it is Matthew
and it is Quintravian because that's what their parents want.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Now, we had that several years ago with Aj Williams.
Aaron Williams, the defensive back from McNeil to play for Texas,
and he told all of his teammates and all of
us it was Aj. And so we're calling him Aj
during the season. And I got an email from his dad,
who I know, good dude, Eugenie. He said, hey, we
gave him it's his Christian based name, Aaron. We gave
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him that name for a reason. If you can please,
I said, sure, no problem. So I told that to
Mac Brown. I said, by the way, Aaron's dad he
goes Eugenie. I said yeah, he said, we'd prefer that
you call him Aaron and matt goes. Then they better
tell their kid because the kids tell him us to
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call him this. So what I've taken to doing is
I'll say Matthew Golden, I'll say quin Travian Wisner. I
do because that's what the parents are In a second
reference on a play, blah blah blah, quin Travian Riisinger
Weisner a big run out of the forty seven yard
line that dad they had to do, and.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Trey made a great cut.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, I'll do a second reference on that, just
to show respect to both.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Sides on that as easier to say Trey than it is.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well it is, and I don't have any problem with
saying Quin Travian. But but I've known Imonstrations who was
in high school. So I think I can incorporate both
of those in there and still provide the proper context
on that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the same thing too with Matthew.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Golden and with with Trey, like we knew him by Trey,
because that's what when you you know, when he committed
the Texas and with with the Soto, the rosters, the
reporters all call them Trey.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Where would that come from?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
That would probably come from the player or the parents
telling the head coach at the Soto his name is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We call him Tray. That's what That's what it's all.
He's listed, Yeah, and that is what Sar calls him.
And that's what Claude math as his head coach of Pisodica,
they called him Tray. Now some of that may be
shortening it from football coaching perspective reasons. I get that,
but what raised the question in my mind also was
seeing that Network TV kept calling him Quin Travian, and
(07:15):
I thought, are the being told that? And come to
find out they, in fact they were, So I can
respect that. I understand all that, and I'll call him
what his folks want me to call him and what
he wants to be known by as well. The best example,
and I think I've told this story before, the best
example of this is when Texas women's basketball had a
(07:37):
player back around twenty ten, maybe twenty twelve. I'm trying
to remember Chastity Fazzelle, and she was good shooting guard.
She was from Tennessee. Her last name was spelled f Ussel,
and I was told it's Fazel, which is what I
(07:58):
kind of thought it was. Some have said Fusell, but
I was calling Fazelle and I asked her she went
by Chaz A lot of it went I said Chaz, Well,
she said Fiselle.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I said, okay, So I called her that.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Then there was a game I had to miss, was
a tournament out Las Vegas, and our good friend John
and Danny was subbing for me out there, and he
kept calling her Fuzzle during the game Fuzzle Fuzzle, So
I called him after the game, I said, what's it
with the fuzzle thing?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Is?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, her dad came up to me, oh my goodness
and said, hey, our family name is Fuzzle.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Could you call her that? And uh? And he said okay.
So I thought, well, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So when they got back to town, I went up
to her and I said, hey, Chaz, tell me one
more time how to pronounce your last name. She goes,
Fuzzlle Like, I said, what's Fizzelle? And I said, well,
I said, apparently you know it was fuzzle. She goes,
did my dad say to do that? And I was like, well,
a matter of fact, he did. She goes, I don't
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care what he calls it. I'm calling it Fazelle. So
with even within the own family, there was disagreement over
how to pronounce her last name. So I went with
her wishes. Because she wasn't a miner anymore, she could
call herself what she wants, Fazzelle, So that's what That's
what it. But that was a little more detailed and
in depth in saying Countravian, shorteninging it to Trey or
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Matthew to Matt.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's just honoring a proper name. Wish there. So I
get that.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
The bottom line seems to be some sort of disconnect
between what the kid wants to be called and what
his or her parents want them to be.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And us as broadcasters or the university's media RELATIONSHTAFF kind
of get caught in the middle of that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And all that, and we get the Twitter, dms and
the emails. That's why I do both. That's why I
do both.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Figure out to please somebody, all right, But but I
don't think I'll be calling him Coobs Andrews.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I've called him Andrew all season long. I don't think
I'll call him Coobs.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
This is this is an answer to something you'd probably
expect this, uh, Like, for example, when Jerry Jones was
on last but when we had the sound bite last hour,
when he was asked about do you feel comfortable with
the game planning and the play calling and things like that,
it would be pretty easy for someone who is being
(10:17):
asked that question to interpret it as you second guessing
them by the mere fact of Jason the question are
you happy? Are you happy with the game planning? Like
as opposed to not happening? So so it would be.
And that's why Jerry said, I understand their second guessing.
He said, I can hear you a second guess like
it like he's expecting it to be a second guess.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Then there's things like this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
A reporter asked Debo Sweeney if there were something extra
suite about the fact that they knocked Alabama out of
the playoffs. And I remember Dabo was a grad assistant
in Alabama. He's an Alabama grad, so you know, and
then it was going to come down to that at
(11:02):
SMU and another ACC team gets in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So Dabo's asked, was there something extra sweet about knocking
Alabama out of the playoff? And that's the question was
being asked. I thought, I know where this answer is
going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
No. No, I mean that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, I mean, it's you obviously know somebody's not
gonna make it or whatever. But I just think that
a team shouldn't be punished for playing in the championship
game that's already in.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it just sets a really bad precedent.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I don't think teams should be rewarded for not making
their championship game, but teams are punished for making their championship.
Teams that are you know, we're in, like SMU, they're eight,
they're in. But now all of a sudden, you go
get beat in your championship game and you get punished
for that, but you got the same record as teams
that didn't make their championship. I just think that's a
(11:51):
bad precedent. And you know, we can talk all about
what changes need to be made and this and that,
but you know, like I mean, honestly, the championship games.
I've heard all about the seeding and all that stuff.
I mean, like you you can't punish it. I mean,
if a team's gonna have to play an extra game,
thirteen games, then you have to give them a buy.
(12:12):
You can't ask the team that's playing in a championship
to to then turn around and play another game when
they've won their championship and got to buy. You know,
I mean to me that that doesn't make any sense.
I mean, otherwise, just do away with the championship games,
make the championship weekend the first round, and then you
(12:33):
just seed it however and you go from there. But
you know, somebody's always going to get left out.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I've been a part.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Like I said, it's our seventh playoff and you know
we've been to sixth final four. So I've been a
part of you know, the five, six, seven, eight team
and now we're talking about you know, twelve teams.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It's going to go to fourteen or sixteen or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But no, I just think, I don't I don't you know,
I have no idea who's going to get left out.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And I just think it was the right thing. I mean,
they deserved it.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I mean they had a great year and got being
on a fifty six yard field goal for three seconds
to go in a championship game that if they don't play,
they're in the playoff. So I just think, you know,
it's the right thing to do with the system that
we have in place currently.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, the key to those words there system that we
have in place currently, because and I agree with Dabosweeney
on all of this, that you can't take a team
like SMU that's in the field at number eight then
because they qualify to play the conference championship game and lose,
it dropped them completely out. That said, the other side
(13:42):
would say they shouldn't have been eight in the first place.
That the resume wasn't good enough to be number eight
in the first place, to where we're.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Even having this discussion.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's the discussion that the Playoff selection Committee is going
to have. In the playoff committee itself, overall, those who
run it are going to have to figure out whatever
tweaks and adjustments, if any need to be made, all right.
He was asked about his impressions of the Longhorns. What
were his impressions about the Texas team?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Shoot?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Man, Yeah, I haven't even had a chance to put
my eyes on them other than just you know what
I've seen, you know, like everybody else on TV and stuff.
But I mean they were a final four team last year,
so and now they're back in the playoffs. So I
think I think Sark's done an amazing job. He's recruited.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, they got a great roster, a very very
talented roster.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've got elite quarterback, play, explosive players outside. I mean,
this is a this is a complete football team every
sense of the work. So they're good enough to win
the whole thing, and we'll have our hands full for sure,
but excited to.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Go compete, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Certainly feeling like they have a chance in this game
to compete and it's good to hear him talk about
him in that respect. Now, except for Debo, there's this
deal not only with Andrew mccouba returning back home, and
of course he played at Clemson out Texas. Kate Klubnick,
(15:09):
his quarterback, did not play Texas. He has only played
it Clemson. But he's from right here in the Austin
are as. We know the outstanding quarterback at Westlake led
him to a state championship.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
In fact, led him to a state championship.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
In January twenty twenty one there right in the middle
of the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So he got pushed back.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
He defeated South Lake Carrol, and he had all the
attention was focused on the fact that it was the
Dodge Bowl. You had Todd Dodge, they head coach at Westlake,
who was getting ready to step down, and you had
his son, Riley Dodge, who was the head coach at
South Lake Carrol where Todd had been and won state
titles with Riley as his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Included during the time as well as Greg McElroy.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chase Daniel had been quarterbacks the air for him at
South Lake Carrol, and of course he was wrapping up
his career at Westlake and they were taking on south
Lake Carrol and the quarterback at south Lake Errold that
year in that game.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Was Quinn Ewers.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Where's the quarterback Westlake was Kate klubnick Ers eventually matriculates
to Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Clubnick winds up at Clemson. He goes to Clemson and
has he.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Had that conversation had he at the time of this
with Kate Clubnick about returning to his home statement, returning
to the Austin area and taking on Texas.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, we hadn't discussed. We had no idea what was
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Honestly, we hadn't really spent any time discussing, you know, scenarios.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean we we literally go to bed at.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Like six thirty in the morning and we I was
back over there at ten thirty and we had eleven
forty five team meeting, and so we did.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
We did.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
We didn't have much time to discuss any scenarios, just
like like everybody else will find out what we're doing.
But when Texas came up, I mean, it was just
kind of like, oh, this is this is uh, it's amazing,
you know, because there's a lot of storylines. He's obviously
from Austin, went to West Lake there and you know,
one of the best quarterbacks to go out of the
(17:00):
state of Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
But also him and Quinn, you know, went head to
head a lot in high school.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So it's just a really uh you know, that's it's
all about the game, but that's just kind of a
cool storyline for our quarterback, you know, you know, you
just never know how things are going to work out
in this crazy game of college football.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And for him to be going to.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
His first playoff because we didn't make it in twenty
two we won the league, but we didn't make it,
and then last year we didn't make it. So his
first playoff in his first playoff game in Austin, Texas
where he grew up is uh, you know, you can't
make that up. So pretty cool, pretty cool for you know,
opportunity for him and his family, you know, to be
(17:45):
able to go compete against Texas there in Austin.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And of course he's not the only player on the
roster from the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Returning home.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, Ian reied.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
In fact, in fact, the game that I saw Kate play, uh,
he was playing against Ian Reid in that game at
vandergriff there so in uh, what is the stadium there
at Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
What's the name of.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
It, Royal Texas Memorial Stadium, Royal.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Texas Memorial Statey.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Okay, so we were there at rural Rural Texas Memorial
Stadium and he was actually playing against Ian Reid. Obviously
Ian Reed's out for the year, but yeah, so pretty
cool opportunity for all those guys to be able to
go back home.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Noble Johnson, another guy, Corey and Gibson. Uh, we got
several Texas kids on our team that I know.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
That'll be a great thing for them to have a
chance to, you know, go play in the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And what does he remember about recruiting the guys from
the Austin area, namely Kate Klubni and Ian Reid from
vandergriff Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, just you know Kate, I mean, we offered
two quarterbacks in that that class.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We offered Tas Simpson.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Well, we offered Tyss Simpson first, and you know, I
kind of got to know Kate a little after that,
and basically we told Kate, hey, listen, uh because ty
was getting ready to make a decision and we're like, hey,
if he if he doesn't come our way, listen, you're
you're you're getting an offer. And he was like, and
Kate had you know, a million offers, but he was like,
(19:16):
I want to come to Clemson.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And so you know, Tye went to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And literally the moment ty Simpson announced that he was
going to Alabama, I called Kate.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I was standing in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I said, well, all right, uh, here's your opportunity. You're
you're you've got the scholarship if you want it. And
he said, well, I'm coming to Clemson. And that was
really that simple. Uh that's what he wanted to do,
and you know, just worked out the way it was
supposed to. So that was that was that. And then
from ian standpoint, he was just a kid that we
got on and got him out here to to evaluate
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him and got to know his family and I just
really really loved everything about him. His brother's here playing
soccer as well. Uh so just a just a great family.
Unfortunate that he got hurt because they could have helped
us this year for sure, but he still got, you know,
four years in front of him because he'll get this
year back from a medical standpoint, So I thank when
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it's all said none, he's gonna be a good player.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
For us, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So there it is, the comments there from Dabo Sweeney's
talking about Ian Reid. There, of course, the former outstanding
lineman from Vandergriff who is out injured for the year.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Vandergrift is still alive in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
The playoffs, by the way, and they're playing in McLean
Stadium and Wake on Saturday night against Summer Creek High
the Humble as d in the greater Houston area. All right,
coming up, we'll have more on the NFL when we
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