Gearing Up For Texas Basketball vs Arkansas!

On this episode of The Craig Way Show, Craig Way previews the upcoming men's basketball matchup between Texas and Arkansas. It's all right here on The Craig Way Show!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is alive, somehow skirting the depths of certain depth death. No,
it's not quite that dramatic. It's glad to be back today.
Feeling much better. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program
here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. My
name is Craig Way. I am feeling much better today,

(00:22):
Thank you, and thanks to Cameron Parker filling in for
me yesterday. It's been a bizarre last week and some
of the details, we'd kind of give it a few
of the details when I popped on with Andrew Zimmel
last week with the travel delays and all the weird
stuff that happened, and I'll kind of do a little

(00:45):
recap of it without going into grand.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Detail, but.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
It led to a very very busy and hectic and
unplanned for series of travel, which happens a lot in
our business in the in the sports broadcaster business, especially
guys who do play by play, and then the unexpected
but always recognized moment of illness arrives as well, and

(01:12):
that happened over the weekend as well. But we did
manage to get through all of that. So here's kind
of what happened, very very very very very busy week
last week, as you might imagine, and there was you know,
basketball games to be broadcast, two men's games, two women's

(01:35):
games for you team, and and also we were planning
to do a long worn weekly show with Rodney Terry
on Thursday night at Pluckers. So Tuesday comes, So it
was a week ago today. It's kind of interesting thing
about all this stuff happened within less than a week time.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
But Tuesday fly with the team along with Cameron.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We both fly with the men's basketball team over to Oxford, Mississippi.
The game takes place on Wednesday, hard faught basketball game.
Long ones come up on the short end of that
seventy two to sixty nine contest. The Trey Johnson three
pointer to try to tie it at the buzzer rattles out,

(02:18):
so they lose the game on Wednesday night before we
even got back to the hotel. Because normally when you're
on the road, the way the sequence works is you
go in the day before the team has it's it's
walked through there and it's film study there in the hotel.

(02:42):
There might be a shooting session the night before the
game in the arena. It depends on the host to
be quite honest, and also to be quite honest, Ole
miss was not going to relinquish the arena for Texas
to sh shoot until at least eight thirty at night.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And there was a plan.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
For the basketball team that there was a team dinner
planned that night, so and that was at seven thirty,
and they didn't want to disrupt all the other plans
and the way things are on the itinery, so they
didn't shoot the night before the game. So they had
a big session inside this ballroom where they have the
free throw lane taped down and that's part of what

(03:29):
they do when they're working through a lot of half
court sequences and things like that. So they did that
and they had dinner on Tuesday night. Wednesday morning, they
get up, they go to shoot around and they had
the shoot around and then you when you come back
if a pregame meal later and then the team goes

(03:51):
to the arena, and when they go to the arena,
you pack up all your bags and you're done because
they're loaded onto the bus because it's going straight from
the arena to the airport to get on the charter flight.
And this case was going to be in Tupelo, Mississippi,
forty five minutes to the or really closer to an
hour to the east of Oxford. Oxford's a very small place.

(04:14):
The airport is just really small camp get most charter
jets in there. So long wards play the game, lose
the game, and instead of packing up and going straight
to the airport, we were all told, no, we're going
to go back to the hotel. We're not getting out
tonight due to the fog in Austin because of that

(04:35):
bad weather that moved through. I know, there was a
lot of rain and there's fog. So the team goes
back to the hotel. So we were all given keys
and got back into our dirty hotel rooms, the ones
that we had that the you know, the housekeeping staff
had not made up.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Wait, the rooms were paid for through that second full
day anyway, second night anyway. But the decision was also
made that night that the team was going to go
on straight to Baton Rouge on Thursday, because the next
game was going to be with LSU on Saturday, and

(05:08):
rather than come home on Thursday just for one day
and then turn around because the guys were gonna miss
class on Thursday anyway, they could do a study hall
by staying out and then turn around and go Friday LSU.
Rather than do that, they were just going to go
Thursday to bat Rouge. Well, that wasn't gonna work for
my schedule because obviously I needed to get back to

(05:29):
broadcast the Texas women's game. So I got an eighty
mile uber drive up to Memphis and hopped on board
a flight to come from Memphis back to Austin. Made
it back to the game Thursday night for the Texas
women against Missouri. Friday, I fly out to Baton Rouge.
The team had gone to Baton Rouge on Thursday. I

(05:51):
rejoined the team in Baton Rouge on Friday. They played
the game Saturday. I woke up Saturday morning it didn't
feel well, and I thought, well, maybe this is a
cold or something.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I didn't feel well, and I also and I did
not know until I got in like late Friday night,
that Rodney Terry had been sick with the flu.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
He'd been down for two days.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Really was it was a tough deal, but I had
not been around him, so it wasn't like I called
anything from him, And in retrospect, I don't think it
was the flu, although I wound up having some fevers
over the course of the next few days. So anyway,
I kind of medicated up and you know, cold medicines
and all that other kind of stuff and decongestions and

(06:35):
things of that nature. Called the game on Saturday always
helps him. The games going well too, you know, and
the long Words won. The game obviously, did very very well,
won by thirty one points, so that goes all right.
When the game was over, I started feeling it coming
on again. On the plane flight at home. I felt bad.
I got home. I almost went straight to bed immediately after,

(06:59):
medicated up again and slept through the night.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Did not feel good at all.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
When I woke up Sunday morning and oncen't sure I
was going to be able to get over to College
Station and do the game. But again, some heavy meds
and the fact that it was just an hour forty
five minute drive over to College station able to get
over there and do the game. Did the game, you know, again,
heavily medicated did the ball game. Everything went fine. I

(07:25):
got home, and I felt awful when I got home.
Part of it also was it seemed to take me
forever to get home. Now I will stand up there
with just about anybody, just about anybody on the best
ways to drive from Austin to College Station. You know,
I've been there a few times so for football, men's basketball,

(07:46):
women's basketball, baseball. I've been over the College Station many, many, many,
many many times, so I know how to get to
College Station. But just for the heck of it, in
this day and age of having like Apple Car Play,
I'll input the disk just so I can see the
mileages I'm going across, and also more important to me

(08:07):
to see the speed limit in each area, just in
case I don't want to be going way beyond the
speed limit, and it puts it up there when you
got the destination one, well, the backside of that, the
other side of it. Sometimes GPS has a mind of
its own and it'll take you a direction you're not
really planning to go. And it told me to go
this different way coming back when I got to Rockdale

(08:28):
turning north instead of staying on seventy nine, I think
I was going up far In to Market nine oh eight,
and then then from far In to Market nine oh eight,
flipping back around to something like six three oh six'
one and anyway, it was on these foreigner market roads
that didn't recognize and at one point I was like,

(08:48):
where am I. I'm out in the middle of nowhere
and I get to where this one far in the
market road is dead ending, but the GBS is telling
me to turn left. So I kind of did a
slowed down and boom and a kind of rolled on
through on to the left.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I got pulled by a h I think it
was a Milam County Sheriff's deputy for rolling through the
stop sign out in the middle of nowhere with no
traffic getting about. I explained my situation to him and
he was he was pretty cool about that. I'm gonna
let you go with a warning, just kind of be

(09:23):
mindful of that. Blah blah blah. So he let me go,
but it just seemed to take forever to get home,
and by the time I got home, I felt absolutely awful,
really awful. And then I was up throughout the night
sleeping and then waking up and medicating all that stuff,
and I just felt terrible yesterday. So that's why I

(09:44):
wasn't able to make it in. But a day of
a lot of rest and a lot of medication and
back at it, not one hundred percent, but feeling a
lot better.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So that's that's a good thing, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Coming up, So that's the explanation for the craziness of
the past several days. What's coming up the program today,
We're gonna hear from Rodney Terry, long worn men's basketball coach.
We're also here from Devon Pryor, who has started to
have his presence known a little bit more and he
is he is really affecting things also, so uh getting

(10:16):
more playing time. We're gonna hear from de ViOn Pryor,
but we'll hear from Rodney Terry coming up. We do
have inconceivable this hour. We've got a lot of things
to get to on the program. We're always happy to
take your input, your questions, your thoughts. All you have
to do is text the word Texas followed by your
question or comment to eight one five three zero. So

(10:36):
text the word Texas followed by your question or comment
to eight one five to three zero. Standard messaging and
data rates may apply. So we'll get to all of
that and more. We'll talk from Super Bowl as well.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
NBA.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, the simmering still after the massive trade between the
Mavericks and the Lakers, with Luka Doncics going to la
and Anthony Davis coming.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Back to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
We get to all that and more when we continue
here on thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Tuesday's going all right, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Weather outside, you know, I think it depends on your
perspective with regard to the weather. I mean, we can
all look outside and see that it's nice and sunny
and warm.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
And all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But there are some people, some people, and they look
at this as being unseasonable to the point of being unfriendly.
I am married to one of those people. Linda likes those,
Don't get me wrong. She likes summertime weather and warm weather.

(11:34):
She just likes summertime. In the summertime. She would rather
it be, you know, more in the seasonal pattern of
being in the sixties this time of year.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Not in the low eighties.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Me I'll take hot any time of year over the
cold anytime of year. But you know, sometimes that just happens.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Long worn basketball team has won three of its last four.
Texas is now with one win way for getting back
to the five hundred market conference play. That's really important
when considering the fact that they play in the toughest
basketball conference in the country.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's not a pinion, that's fact.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Based on the numbers, based on the net rankings, based
on any metric you choose, the Southeastern Conference has been
the top basketball conference in the nation. And if you
look at the regular poll rankings as well as the
net rankings and the computer and all that kind of stuff,
all of that is revealed as such. So a win

(12:33):
over Arkansas on Wednesday night would be big. It would
really help out tex As to get him back to
level five hundred. It would get them to at that point,
another win in conference play, and another win overall. All
of those things important as they try to continue to
stay away from the bubble and climb further up on that.

(12:54):
So at his media zoom yesterday, Long Worn's head coach
Rodney Terry, because the team of late has been shooting
the ball better, defending better, are they playing their best
basketball the season right now?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I thought we played really well.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Uh at Old Miss, I thought we uh we we
did everything except win the game, you know, and uh
you know, I thought I guys played with great effort,
uh played really good deepense. I thought we shared the
ball really well, you know, it came down to you know,
you know, whether basketball goes in the basket or not. Uh,
you know, at the end of the ball game. But

(13:31):
you know, disappointed lost for us. You know, we come
on the heels of travel where we have to spend
the night and stay and uh. Uh we made the
decision to stay out the whole time instead of coming back.
And I said that guys that night. You know, we're
gonna find a civil lining uh in this whole situation.
We're all disappointed obviously with the outcome of what we're

(13:52):
transpired tonight, but we're gonna we're gonna find a positive
in this.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
We're gonna stay together.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get over and and
start our preparation for an LSU team that at home
that's played everyone really close in league play.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know, it's not gonna be easy. Uh, we're gonna
stay on top of our academics. But but we're gonna
stay together. And I thought our guys really came together
over the course of that trip in terms of just
being around one another.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
This team's playing.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
A lot, a lot more selfless right now at this point.
In terms of really trusting the teammates. You know, when
anytime you have twenty plus assists in the game, you know,
guys are trusting the teammates at a high level. Did
a good job of taking care of the basketball as well.
We had six turn seven turnovers in the games, one
being mine.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
At the end of the game, we had six.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
But uh, but but they're they are, they're they're they're.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Really kind of understanding and getting the field for what
it takes to try to win in this league. You know,
you've got to play really good defense every night. Well,
you play really hard. You don't have to play perfect,
but you got to play really hard and try to
have each other's back and uh, and then you got
to a rebound the basketball at a at a high
clip as well. And then and then share the basketball,
move the basketball, have good movement and play with good pace.

(15:10):
But I think that's that's what we're doing right now.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and you know you heard me telling me about,
you know whatever, my travel log and getting back and
forth and all that stuff. It wasn't easy for the
team as well, because you know, they had to stay overnight,
like I said, didn't get back. They probably did not
get back in the bed. Remember that was an eight
o'clock tip. And by the time they got back to
the hotel and they got some food in them and

(15:32):
all that sort of stuff, it was probably close to
one o'clock in the morning before they got the bed,
and then they had to get up in the morning, repack,
go over it, then get on the bus.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And they had close to an.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Hour bus ride over to Tupelo, where the charter plane
then took them the batteries. Then they had an afternoon
study haul. They did that since they were going to
miss the academic portion of the calendar week coming back
to Austin. So they did that and and came back
and or went to Baton Rouge after that, and then

(16:04):
after going over to Baton Rouge, then they were able
to get the work in. And you heard Ronnie talk
about them playing very unselfishly. Normally, when that happens, it's
because the chemistry is working. And and Ronnie was asked
if there was a moment when this team chemistry is
really just clicking for this group, Well, I think.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's always a work in progress. I mean, and you know, again,
it takes sometimes it takes teams a while last year
it took us you know, Mike Conference before we were
really playing really well officuely and defensively. And you know, again,
you know, it just takes time, especially in this new
era in terms of you know, one year rosters, you know,
and years past you probably can say if you had

(16:48):
retention of guys for two or three years, you probably
had a well all machine that knew what you were
trying to get done, especially in big moments of games
where you've got to really you know, now you've got to.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Really execute on offense.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
You've got to really sit down and lock into the
details on defense and know exactly what you're trying to
get done from a scheme standpoint. You know, that's always
a work in progress right now with with with the
team that that comes together in one year and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
So I think we'll get into a really good.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Point that I think guys will really locking in on
details right now. Knowing personnel at a high level on
the defensive side of the ball, Uh, they're they're able
to make some adjustments during games. That's one thing you
take take for granted a little bit in terms of
when you don't have connuities teams that can make adjustments.
You may go into a game thinking you can do

(17:35):
this or do that, and now in the game, in game.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
In adjustments that you have to make.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Your team has to continue to get better as the
season goes along. How to adapt to adjusting games. Maybe
it's how the game's being officiated. Maybe it's how we
need to change our pick and roll coverage. Maybe it's
you know, it's personnel, how we're gonna go on a
guy differently. Maybe it's how we're gonna attack person Uh
their so now how we're gonna attack their their pick

(18:02):
and roll. But just the nuances of the game and
the adjustments within the game, you know, that's where guys
have to get familiar with each other, trust one another,
and and know that if it's on the defensive side,
guy's gonna have my back if I make a mistake.
It's on on the offensive side. Hey, if we run
a play, we don't square out of the plate. Now

(18:23):
we gotta flow and play out of the plate, uh
and get a good.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Shot every time down.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
So hopefully that that kind of answers your question along
roundabout way that first part of it.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Okay, it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Just a second quick follow up, J Billis said the
other day that playing in the SEC and having success
is harder than win the NCAA tournament this year.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Just crrius your thought on this concept.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know what this leads the bear man.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
It is a bear you know every league you know,
in conference play, you know, are difficult games to play,
no matter what league you play in. Uh, I just
thinking I'll league this year. You know, we have exceptional teams,
exceptional coaches, and really hard venues to play in. You know,

(19:09):
and it's a really physical league. You know, teams are
really physical, they're athletic, they don't just they don't give
you any really good looks.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
A lot of really.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Good defensive teams in this league, a lot of physical
teams that rebound the basketball in this league. When you
come out of a game in the SEC, you feel
it as a coach, you feel it as a player.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, I guess you do.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know the impression that I've gotten from the SEC,
it's a mentally tough league. There's a lot of mentally
tough guys in this league, just hard nosed guys as
well as how physical and what a grind it can
be in this league. So that brings us to this
Wednesday game with Arkansas Razorbacks were kind of bumbling and
stumbling along. There were one in six in conference play,

(19:58):
first year under John calipar and uh, you know, struggling
to adapt and adjust everything, even with his Kentucky uh
transfer in, you know, influx into the roster.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
It just didn't really seem to be clicking very well.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
And then came Saturday night when the Razorbacks went into Lexington,
Kentucky John Caliparni's return, and they went about the business
of beating Kentucky and they didn't mess around.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
They ended up winning it by ten, but led by
more than that. Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was eye opening to see that happen. And it
also lets you know that this Arkansas team does have
a lot of talent and they maybe they're figuring things
out a little bit. And then of course there's that
business with the rivalry. And Rodney Terry was asked about,
you know, the rebirth of the rivalry. We heard start
talk about it with football. I think it'll happen with baseball.

(20:51):
Uh and with basketball. Isn't a good thing for Texas
and college basketball to have yet another big rivalry back
on the boards for Texas, this time with Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I think the thing that I'm really trying to reiterate
to our guys right now, a lot of those guys
weren't born during this time right now, so they don't
have a recollection of how how big a rivalry Arkansas
Texas is. I mean, you go back to Southwest Conference days,
and you know, for us from a basketball standpoint, you
had Nolan Richardson having those great teams that he had

(21:20):
in the early nineties, and then you talk about Tom
Penders revitalizing Texas basketball. I mean, you had two of
those things happening at the same time, and those were
big time games. I remember watching those games and seeing
those games, uh you know, on TV, and that that
the rival with Arkansas is is huge, you know. And

(21:42):
you know, again, we need a very difficult place to
play in come Wednesday night. We need Moody to be
rocking at another level because we know we go to
Fairville and be sold out over in Fort Fairville when
the Horns come to town.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
You know. But it's that.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Big a rival it's a big deal, and it's a
great rivalry in college Afteret have a our two institutions
competing again at a very high level. A lot of
respect for coach cal Hall of Fame coach, A lot
of respect for Arkansas basketball.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, and this is one of those three along with
Texas A and M and also with Oklahoma to where
there's a home and home involved with that. It isn't
like that with the others, but it is in the
case of Arkansas. So it's Wednesday night, Tomorrow night at
eight o'clock, and our coverage begins at seven point thirty
here on the Zone as well as on ninety eight

(22:31):
point one FM KVED, our number two of the program
here on thirteen hundred the Zone. Glad to have you
with us as we continue here on this Tuesday afternoon,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Hope you're feeling all right.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I'm feeling better after being out yesterday, sick with fevers
and coughing and all kinds of unhealthy things, but much better.
Definitely feeling much better today. I hadn't had a chance,
really to weigh in too much on that massive trade

(23:05):
that happened late Saturday night between the Mavericks and the
Los Angeles Lakers, and it was an interesting piece written
on the ESPN about how Luka Doncics was just about
to fall asleep when his phone rang or buzzed, and

(23:25):
that's when he found out that the Mavericks had traded
him to the Lakers. He said at a news conference today.
You can imagine how surprised I was. I had to
check if it was April first. I didn't really believe it,
And he says now he's kind of recovered from the shock.
He's growing increasingly excited about a new chapter with Lebron

(23:46):
James and playing with the famous Laker team on the
West Coast. And you know, his teammates, both with Dallas
and the ones he's going to play with, have said
it's been their impression he's never lacked motivation to be great,
but now he has even more fuel after the Mavericks

(24:07):
apparently apparently inherently questioned his talent and determination, or at
least his determination and his commitment to keeping himself in
better condition and things of that nature. He said, and
here was the quote. It was a big shock. Dallas
was home, so it was really hard moments for me.
But now I'll get to play in the greatest club

(24:27):
in the world, and I'm excited for this new journey.
I would say I always take the high road I
had my amazing moments in Dallas with all my teammates, coaches,
and most importantly the fans. They always supported me, and
it was an amazing journey. So that was the deal
where they traded Anthony Davis and Max Christie in that
three team deal.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
For Luca.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And he said he was still processing all of this,
said quote, Honestly, it was hard at first. First, DA
really hard. Felt like these last forty eight hours was
a month emotionally, he was really hard. But to day
was much better. This is the Lakers, It's one of
the best clubs in history. So I'm excited to be here. So,
had he stayed in Dallas, he was eligible for a

(25:13):
five year, three hundred and forty five million dollars Supermax deal.
Now he's not eligible for that deal. And so when
he was asked if he or his representatives and indicated
to the Mavericks that he wouldn't sign a supermax extension
to remain in Dallas, he said he had not said that,
Absolutely not, he said. Lakers general manager Rob Polinka was

(25:33):
pretty excited about the whole deal. He said, I think
Luka Doncis joining forces with the Lakers is a seismic
event in NBA history. We have a twenty five year
old global superstar that's going to get on the stage
of the most popular and influential basketball brand on the globe.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I think when those two.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Powerful forces get together, it brings basketball joint to the
world because that's how Luca plays.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
He plays with Joy. Okay, so there was that.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
The Lakers themselves say they're all excited about it. What
about on the other side, Anthony Davis the unibrow now
in a Mavericks uniform. Okay, I mentioned that Luca was
almost asleep when his phone rang. When that happened, Anthony

(26:22):
Davis was sitting down for a movie night with his wife.
Now remember that's two hours prior, so it might be
getting to the later hours of the evening on Saturday night,
but still in primetime.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
It wasn't late night when his phone rang.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
And it was a group call from Rob Polinka, the
GM and the coach JJ Reddick. And what he heard
of that conversation, he was being traded to the Mavericks
for Luka Doncic stunned him as much as it did
the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
When it was announce lad he said, I was shocked.
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I just sent a team of text about congratulations on
the win against the Knicks, big win, looking forward to
Tuesday's game against the Clippers as far as standing purposes,
and then found out like an hour later, I was
no longer with a team. Was in shock. Obviously had
no idea that it was happening. But I mean now
I'm kind of over it. I'm just kind of getting
ready to play with Dallas. He's not going to play tonight.

(27:16):
The Mavericks do play the Sixers tonight. He still has
that abdominal strain that he suffered coincidentally a week ago
against the Sixers, and that would turn out to be
the final game that he.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Played with the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
He had gone back to LA to get the injury
examined entreated, and he said that he could play, possibly
play either Thursday in Boston and the Celtics or at
home Saturday against the Rockets. He said, I'll go through
a workout today and see how I feel, and depending
on that, get another one in tomorrow. Depending on that,

(27:48):
we'll see how I feel. If not Thursday, more than
likely Saturday at home. Okay, So that's from the principles
involved with that. You know, if you followed what has
happened with the fan reaction on social media, Laker fans

(28:08):
by and large are pretty excited about the thing. They're
not much down on the straight and Maverick fans would say, well,
they shouldn't be. Maverick fans have used words as betrayal
and sold out and this and that and just just
absolutely furious. There was a demonstration out front of the

(28:28):
American Airlines Center and Maverick's offices. There were a lot
of people very upset about this, saying it I'm done,
I'm not watching anymore. Take away the m f f
L Moniker, Maverick MAVs fan for life. Those who know,
you know, very upset. A lot of fans very upset

(28:52):
about this. The simple truth on this deal is, no
matter what has kind of seen through the cracks a
little bit and finding out a little bit some of
the details that slipped out that Maverick's front office people
were disenchanted with Luca's less than one hundred percent commitment

(29:23):
to complete workout in staying in shape in the off season.
Diet had something to do with it, but mainly his
his workout regimen. There were things like that. I made
the joke just a little over a week ago that
you know, Luca's having to deal with these calf strains.
I said, because the dude has cankles. You know, he's

(29:45):
got those calves to go right into his ankles. It's
all just like one, you know, one piece a cankle. Uh,
and makes it easier to get those to get those
kind of calf strains on that. But Mavericks executives, apparently
we're not happy with what was going to Let let's

(30:06):
also be real about this. I just read the thing
about the superback steal coming up. Had he stayed with
the ball club, he would have got a three hundred
and forty five million dollars superbacksteal. Now the Mavericks can
divest themselves of that, they can turn right back around
and say, no, we can uh better invest in the future.

(30:31):
Not only with the deal they made with the Lakers
in bringing bringing on Anthony Davis and Max Christie. Not
only that, but also the fact that they could turn
right around and make another deal. And reports are they

(30:51):
made a trade today picking up Caleb Martin from the
seventy six ers.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
And that's where they are to play tonight.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
So it's kind of like that baseball thing you ever heard,
the deal where guys get traded from one team to
another and the two teams happen to be playing each other.
So the guy takes his equipment from one dugout one
clubhouse across the field into the dugout and into the
clubhouse of the other teams, the visiting team or whatever,
or the visitor to the home team if he's been traded.

(31:21):
It's kind of the situation today with what the Mavericks
have done with the Sixers. So this actually started, it
really started percolating yesterday.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And then added on into it today.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So multiple reports say the Mavericks get Caleb Martin from Philadelphia,
their swing man, in exchange for Quinton Grimes and a
twenty twenty five second round pick. So that gives the
Mavericks a little more perimeter depth after the deal that
set Luca to the Lakers. So Kayla Martin is going

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to the Mavericks. He had a four year deal with
the Sixers that he signed this past summer as part
of Philadelphia revamping around Joel mb Tyrese Maxie and Paul
George Martin. Average eight and a half points over five
seasons entering this season, and he's averaged ten points per
game and shot thirty five percent from three point range.

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That was when he was in Miami. This year, he's
averaging a little over nine points per game four and
aff rebounds to assist. But of course the Sixers are
ten below five hundred. So Martin is going to join
a Mavericks team that includes Davis and Max Christi, along
with PJ.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Washington and A. G. Marshall. So there you have it.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
The Mavericks looking at this from a pragmatic financial perspective
as well.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So yeah, it's an.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Emotional thing and Mavericks fans are really upset about it, understandably.
So as a Rams fan, I'm getting nervous sying all
this stuff on the bottom of the crawl of the
screen saying that Cooper Cup is saying the Rams are
trying to trade him or whatever, and they might. It's unfortunately,
but it's you know, if you're a fan of a
team and you invest your emotion and your fan capital

(33:23):
sometimes your financial capitol if you're buying jerseys or whatever
into a player, and then that player winds up leaving
the team either through free agency or being traded. Yeah,
there's going to be a feeling of, you know, forlornness,
if not betrayal or whatever, depending on the circumstances of
what caused the player to leave. All right, we're gonna

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hear more from Longhorn's head basketball coach, Rodney Terry coming
up next when we continue on thirteen under the Zone
rolling through on a Tuesday afternoon. Glad to have you
with us here on the program on thirteen hundred the
Zone here on this Tuesday afternoon. Of course, Long Worn
Basketball is tomorrow. Tomorrow night, they resume with home game

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and they will be taking on the Arkansas Razorbacks at
Moody Center. It's an eight o'clock tip and hope to
see you out there at Moody for the contest and
our airtime here on the Zone. And it will also
be on ninety eight point one FMKVED will come your
way seven point thirty the tip off at eight o'clock.

(34:29):
All right, we heard some from Rodney Terry last hour,
and I wanted to hear some more from the Long
WARN's head coach as they start to get ready for
this matchup. And as I mentioned, Arkansas is coming off
beating Kentucky that was a huge win for the Razorbacks

(34:51):
and trying to pick themselves up off the deck and
just try to get their season turned back around. Never
mind anything about postseason stuff right now because they would
kind of be off the grid on that. They probably
need two or three more wins just to even get
seriously consideration for the nit But that was a big win,
a signature win. And Rodney Terry has known coach John

(35:12):
Calipari for a lot of years, going back to his
time when when Rodney was assistant for Rick Barnes, Texas
played Memphis when Memphis had Derek Rose back in the
Elite eight in two thousand and eight. So they've gone
back away. So the question for our t is has
he crossed paths with coach call of late?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
You know we have And the one thing I'll say
about coach call is Coach cal has always been great
to me, you know, and even when I was working
with coach Barnes as an assistant, he was always great
to me. And we got a chance to have a
four year series where we played Memphis every year. We
also have a connection I coached at UNC Wilmington.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
He was at one time.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
You know, I think he played a little bit there
was there, spent some time there in Wilmington. But he
and my former uh a mentor of mine, uh, Coach Wainwright. Uh,
those guys are really closing, you know. Coach would always
go and work Cale's camps and stuff as well. But
that Wilmington connection was a connection as well. And you know,
I think in coaching we have a brotherhood, you know,

(36:15):
and uh, we all look out for each other. And
I know he had a lot of respect for for
myself and my relationship with with you know, the people
that I've had a chance to work with and uh
and call my mentors.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, and as a person who actually actually attended the
University of North Carolina and Wilmington for all of one semester,
my freshman fall semester before I moved out to Texas,
that makes me smile.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
You n c w youu and see by the.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Sea home of the Seahawks there, And I knew Roddy
of course, had been an assistant there and coach Cayle
had gone there, as he mentioned briefly, all right.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
He was also asked about the improvement with their offense
mainly the rhythm and how the point production has gone up.
There's been more flow within the offensive rhythm. What has
been the reasoning for that?

Speaker 4 (37:04):
You know what we tried to get. You know, we
talk about it all the time. You always want to
try to have really good pace. You want good pace,
good movement, good ball movement, player movement. You know, you
don't want to be you know, you don't want guys
standing around. I think our guys have really gotten to
a point now where you know, let the next guy play.
But we're playing a lot of really good defenses right now.
We're gonna play a really good defensive team come Wednesday night.

(37:27):
I mean they're athletic, they're in the gap, you know,
and uh, they're gonna make.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
It really difficult for us.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Uh, you know, they try to take you out of
your offenses, not let you initiate your offense, run your
all drible handoffs. I mean, you know, teams do a good,
really good job in this league. That's one thing that
people don't talk a lot about in terms of just
you know, it's a physical league, but it's a really
good defensive league. Almost every team we play to this
point right now, no one team hasn't had a really

(37:54):
good defense where they sit down and guart you really hard,
so it's challenged us offensively. They spend a lot of
time working on creating opportunities where we try to engage
to and and try to find an open guy, or
you know, don't over dribble.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
You know, we always say don't dribble. What Kobe wouldn't dribble?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
You know, if you're dribbling the gap there, so one's
waiting that gap for you in this league, and you know,
nine out of ten times they're gonna probably turn you over.
So you've got to be to get that ball moving.
It's really hard to play one on one basketball in
this league as well, because there's good athletes, good length
in this league. So you know, for us, I think
we've also tried to make a conscience help to play

(38:31):
inside out. We want that ball to get to the paint,
where we've been at our best when the ball gets
to the paint. I mean, we scored forty points in
the paint the other day, but when we're shooting paint
touch threes, we're putting the ball in the post, and
Kayden Cedric is giving us a post presence he's giving
us a post presence. It changes everything, you know, and

(38:52):
so you want to be able to play inside out.
It's really hard to go through this conference where you're
coming down, making one pass and shooting the basket.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Come on the ball that touch the paint.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
So we work really hard on trying to get paint
touches just like everybody does.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Uh and play inside out. One quick other thing.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Is Shedner getting more opportunities like in transition and I
like maybe setting a screen and then dashing to the basket.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
For a dunk, that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I mean, we've always you know, he's in basketball in general.
One of the hardest things to guard is in transition
is setting ball strings. You know, your ball stream coverage
in transition. You know, so transition ball stream offense for
us is important. You know, we don't have an easy
basket or easy lay up. You know, we want to

(39:41):
come down and you know, maybe set a signal drag,
double drag, and then we start our flow from that
point and stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
There are a lot of teams and it's rented.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
The way the NBA plays, there's a lot of signal drags,
double drags, restream you know, step up streams, you know,
so we try to do a lot of those same things,
you know, as we're initiating our offense.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Up to now.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
One other important element here to bring up, because we're
gonna hear from Devin Pryor coming up at the next segment.
In case you didn't know this about Devin Pryor, who
is a red shirt freshman. But in case you didn't know,
Devin is one of those kids who quote unquote reclassified
to enter early. So in other words, he entered in
what would have been his senior season of high school.

(40:23):
He was able to reclassify. So Rodney was asked that,
you know, what does go into a player reclassifying, What
are some of the specifics and how does that work
and how do you decide on what you're going to
do in terms of your the player reclassifying into the system.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
DP was a young kid, I mean deep when we
first got who was one of the first kids, to
be honest with you, came on an unofficial visit when
we first got here, you know, and uh, we kind
of tracked him a little bit throughout the course of
the next couple of years, and it wasn't until we
actually got into the recruitment process with him that we
we uh we were able to evaluate his academic situation

(41:09):
and found out that he could he could actually come
to school a lot earlier and uh and so you know,
our thought process was like, hey, this is this is
a kid that has an incredible upside, uh with the
with the with the with the great ceiling. Let's go
in and get him to the campus right now, start
working on his body and start trying to get him
physically ready to try to play at this level. He

(41:31):
came in that first year and put on about twenty
seven pounds, you know. Uh and uh, we thought that
there would be a chance throughout the course of that
season at some point that that he could actually crack
the lineup and get in there and play a.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Little bit and stuff. But but at it, as it.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Turned out, he didn't get an opportunity that year. But
he had an incredible summer. He had a great fall.
Uh and then and then he and then he falls
on a couple of hard times in terms of an injury,
so he misses about three weeks started to season.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
And you know, going into the season, we envisioned DP
being a guy that's in our rotation Uh, because he
had made a lot of strides over the summer in
the fall. But but it's its process was set back
a little bit with those uh, with those injuries, and
they were pretty tough injuries. They weren't easy injury to
come back from, and almost to the point of where

(42:21):
it almost took a season uh and everything, but uh,
he stayed with it. Warning those guys did a great job,
you know, with his rehab, and he's worked his way
back in you know, and uh, he's playing terrific.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
For us right now.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
He brings a lot of energy and activity when he
comes to the floor. And uh, I think the best
is yet to come for for.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
For DP.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Next and and of course DP Devon Pryor is a
red shirt freshman again.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
We're gonna hear from him coming up in a few minutes. Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
But then there's the freshman, Trey Johnson, true freshman, named
SEC Freshman of the Week again coming off big uh
week both against O Mess and against LSU. Coaches often
say they learn from their players, even young players, and
so Roddie has asked what he has learned from Trey
Johnson in this freshman campaign and in turn, what he

(43:16):
feels Trey has learned from him.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
What Tramon has done is he's really got back to
getting lost playing really hard on defense. I think that's
the one thing that's changed his whole game. You know,
He's always been a guy that has had great length
and could be a really good defender. He was a
really good defender at Houston, you know, and when he
went to Arkansas he was called on more to score
the basketball, but still.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
What could be a good willing defender.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I think yesterday, I mean the other day when we
played LSU, he got so lost Old Gordon cam Carter.
He did an unbelievable job on the leading score in
the in the conference. To where when you get lost
playing that hard on defense, offense comes so much easier
to you. If you're trying to go out and you're
trying to play really hard on all and try to
have a great night, shooting your way into a great night.

(44:03):
You know, the best guys in the world have a
hard time doing that. NBA guys can't go in into
a game saying I'm gonna have a great night by
trying to score the basketball. I got to get out
there and try to play really hard, get lathered up
playing really hard nosed defense. And then when it's time
for me to make a meeting for shout out, make
a meeting for shot. It's tam for me to make
a meaningful pass, I'll make a meaningful pass. So you know,

(44:25):
I think he's really bought into. You know, I'm gonna
I know, I'm gonna have to go out one of
the better offensive players on the other team. I'm gonna
have to go out really hard. But I'm also gonna
be to be prepared to score that ball and move
the ball whenever I need to drive it as well.
So I think that's really giving him an opportunity to
play the way he's playing right now.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, that was talking about Tremon Mark and his evolution
this season. Now we'll hear more from Rodney Terry talking
about Trey Johnson coming up. But up next we'll hear
from Devine Pryor the reclassified redshirt freshman and his recent contributions.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
We'll do that when we continue thirteen Under the Zone.
On a Tuesday afternoon, one day.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Away from Texas, Arkansas at Moody Center tomorrow night at
eight o'clock, you heard Ridding Terry talking about the Vin
pryor he has stepped up his game of late has
gotten back into the rotation. It was a big factor
in the win over LSU on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
So let's hear from the city.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
He is a unique story and a really cool dude
and reclassified into becoming a freshman one year or early
and as a redshirt freshman right now. So the vine
was asked or dp is somebody liked to call him
on what it takes and what he has learned about

(45:45):
what it takes to stay on the floor.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
What makes a difference for him.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I think for me, the biggest thing was this understanding
like where I best fit into our program and so
our system and where I could benefit other guys that
are you know, maybe need more scoring, or maybe I
can make up some of the defensive HLP on you know,
the backside of things, and you just just understanding my role.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
And I really appreciate Arts for that.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
He was in his real quick follow up.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
I know you guys didn't get a chance to head
home to Austin until after the LSU trip. What was
that time like, just being away from awesome with the
guys for you know, three four or five days?

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Uh No, it was it was Honestly, it was great.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
You know, besides you know, other situation and other factors,
but you know, team chemistry really played a big part,
and the guys definitely got closer throughout that trip.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, they spent that They all said that they felt
like they had been away for like a week.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
It was closed, it was five days.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
But but it certainly didn't hurt in terms of the
team chemistry.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Okay, So here was a.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Question about his role and about it changing, and the
true measure of the fact that the reason Devon Pryor's
role changed with the team is something plain and simple.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
He got healthy.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
He's he's been banged up, bad ankle situation about other things.
That's why they couldn't get him in to the mix.
You might have heard Rodney Terry in the prior segment
talking about how he was planning to have prior in
the rotation. He would have been in the mix. He'd
been playing that well in the offseason work. They really

(47:14):
planned on using him, and then he had a series
of injuries that.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Kind of took him down. There was a knee thing
and ankle injury for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So both of those were things that really studied his growth,
but he was asked about what has helped change for
him to an ends his role.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
I think everything started in practice.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
You know, I just just have to play hard and
play defense and you know, rebounding. So I try to
hone in on those particular aspects of the game. So
I could, you know, find my way eventually on the court,
and you know, it opens up a bigger role as
I progress through. And yeah, I'm starting to understand that.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And how much confidence is this team playing with right now?

Speaker 5 (47:54):
We're playing with the most confidence right now. We all
believe in each other and we all understand what we
got to do to move or.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, which means to try to keep winning.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Next question for Devin Pryor was about that reclassification thing
and reclassifying and the thought process of everything that went
in to that decision to reclassify.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, most definitely, I did understand the situation I came
into with the older team that we had and you know,
the guys that were before me, So coming in I
didn't have no expectation to really play, but I just
wanted to get a jump start on like the physicality
and the understanding and just you know, pick up the pace.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
So I think that decision is starting to pay off
a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
So next, since he made that decision, was there any
kind of regret about missing his final year of high
school to reclassify?

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Like I said, I came into understanding what my position was,
so I immediately already had the mindset of I'm here
to get better physically, you know, just understand under the
guys that were before me.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
And yeah, it makes a big difference if you have
the knowledge of that. So with that in mind, what's
the feeling like knowing that all of his hard work
is starting to pay some dividends.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Oh, there's no feeling like it.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
You know, as a basketball player, as you said before,
you just want to get out there and play. So
being able to get on the court and help my
team win, you know, that's a big deal to me.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Then he was asked about what this off season was
like for him and what was going through his mind
as the team and the coaching staff were bringing in
more transfers.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
What was that feeling like.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Really, like the guys that they brought in, I know them,
they know me. I understand what they do and what
they bring in, and I know my position as well,
and just talking with the coaches. I trust their plan
and I stayed with the plan, and I stayed the course,
and you know it's paying off.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Like before.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, it's it's made a big difference on him now
in terms of the current time for him and what
he's trying to do and what he's trying to learn.
Devine was asked what he has learned working with and
playing with Trey Johnson, a true freshman, and how the
two have kind of helped one another.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
You know, chose one of the guys that we try
to get going early, you know, and my job for
me at least, I just try to make everything easier
on the defensive side for him and you know, just
try to provide the extra help that he needs on
the court. And you know, as far as trading under McGrady,
my whole basketball awareness and IQ just went up exponentially.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
What that was a reference to was he did have
some off season training under Tracy McGrady, the former NBA
stand out. All Right, you know, even when you're not playing,
you can contribute to the team, mainly by having the
energy and as the players and coaches like to say,
the juice coming from the bench. A guy like Kenda Weaver,

(50:52):
who right now is out because of that hip flexer
situation and we don't know how much longer he'll be out,
as he tried to get back on that. But Devon
Pryor was asked, did RT Rodney Terry? Did Coach Terry
talk to him about bringing that juice, that energy much
like what they've seen from Kenda Weaver.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Yeah, definitely talked about the similarities. And you know, with
my abilities, what can I bring to the court, And
I feel like I could bring just that and you
know that's that's what's helping me stay on in the court.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
So I'm just trying to keep it.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Up, okay, which brings us to his gifts, his tools
that he brings to the parties.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Well, what would do Von Pryor say? His upside is the.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Coach staff knows what I can do. I know my ability.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
I feel like my scoring ability can definitely be showcased
later on the future as I get decided, you know,
get better and things of that nature. But as far
as the game, I'm just trying to keep it as
simple as possible, and you know, it's trying.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
To win, okay, So in its simplest terms, then what
would he say is his specific role. If he has
a specific role with this.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Team, it's definitely being defensive, being disruptive on the court,
trying to get rebounds, you know, just make big plays
and winning plays.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Okay, that's on the defensive side. But we know guys
like to make shots too. Does he have a favorite
shot that he likes.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
I'm starting to my three point game is starting six spand,
but my favorite side is the pull up midi.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Okay, the pull up midi. That's good because you don't
often hear players talk about the pull up jumper being
being their favorite or one of their best. So there's
some thoughts from divine priort. All right, We've got some
other football notes that we'll get to coming up as
we continue on a Tuesday afternoon right here on AM

(52:34):
thirteen hunder the Zone, a third and final hour in
the program here on thirteen under the Zone, Tuesday afternoon here, Craig,
wait with you, glad that you today hopefully is going okay,
and it's nice weather outside going on, so hopefully that
helps as well. And you know, forgive me while a

(52:59):
call a little bit there. I'm still, like I said,
still trying to shake off the effects of the malady
of the weekend, but feeling much better now. The this week,
of course, is super Bowl Week, and you know a
lot of stuff happens on super Bowl Week.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
If you ever go to.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
A super Bowl venue city host city, in this case
at be New Orleans this week, if you ever go
through that, you will undoubtedly see all of the trappings
of the super Bowl and all that other kind of
stuff too, But just the carnival atmosphere that permeates everything

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that has to do with the Super Bowl is sometimes
not to be believed. I've been to one, I've attended,
actually sat at two super Bowl games and covered three.
The one that I didn't stay was the first of
the back to back Cowboys super Bowl victories under Jimmy Johnson.

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Was out there in LA the entire week doing talk shows,
going to all the press conferences. But I flew back
on Saturday, the day before the game because I had
a Texas basketball game that next day, or I flew
back on Friday evening as I had a basketball game
on Saturday Southwest Conference. That's how long ago. That was

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the nineteen ninety two January of ninety three. That year
in ninety two. Additionally, the next year when the Cowboys
went back to repeat, I did stay for the whole
thing and cover the game itself. I did Jimmy Johnson's
radio show and Jerry Jones radio show those two years,
and I'll never forget in doing Jimmy's show the second

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year in Atlanta, when the Cowboys played the Bills again,
Jimmy had told us he was always very professional to
work with, very good, but he did tell us I'm
not going to to be able to give you guys
a full hour to do a call in on Super
Bowl Week. And we understood that, and we said, how
about if we just do about twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
We'll go into this.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It was basically a glorified broom closet that was given
to us as a quote unquote studio at the team hotel.
Why don't you just come in and just sit down.
We'll do just twenty minutes Q and a back and forth.
He said, that's fine, and that's what we did that year.
The one other Super Bowl that I went to was
when I was a college student, and people know I

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was selling T shirts at concerts and things like that. Well,
I had an opportunity to go down and work Super
Bowl fifteen. That's how long I know. This was there
in New Orleans, between the Eagles and the Raiders. This
would have been January of eighty one. I was in college.
It was the week that the hostages were released from
Iran for those of you OG's who would remember those things.

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And I went down there, me and my best friend Alex,
to work at But what we found out when we
got down there was well, you can't go. Even though
we had some official NFL licensed apparel with us, we
did not have a license. We were told by the
people that we were working for, who'd always been really

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professional upfront to work with, but when we got down there,
they said, yeah, you can't sell these on the streets.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Of New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
What are you talking about, Well, because you don't, you're
not licensed as a vendor to work.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
And you wait until we get all the way down
here to tell us that. Now, well we.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Didn't know until we got down blah blah blah, and
you know, so what are we supposed to do? Well,
maybe you can set up in account in a hotel
or something. So Alex and I were sitting in our
hotel room. This was on a Thursday night before the game,
looking at all this product in our hotel room, like,
what are we going to do? And then the local
news comes on and the news anchor says, well, you know,

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this Super Bowl week here in New Orleans and all
the hotels are booked up and fans are stabbing to
stay as far away as an hour away in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
We looked at each other and said ah.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
We hopped in a rental car where he drove to
Baton Rouge, set up three accounts at a Hilton, a
Holiday Inn, and a Marriotte, and then just shuttled product
to them back and forth throughout the course of the weekend.
When the whole weekend was done, we paid for our
travel down there, our hotel room.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And got two tickets to the game.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
We just bought two tickets to the game one hour
before kickoff.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
We weren't even.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Planning to go to the game, but the guy asked
us in the elevator when we were staying in the
French Quarter, you guys going to the game? Well, we
thought we might check out the prices. He said, Hey,
I got two here you can have on the mezzanine
level of face value.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Really yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Bought them forty bucks apiece, forty dollars backed them for
a super Bowl ticket, and we went to the game.
Not only did we do that, we took some of
our product and we took like these over the shoulder
almost like duffhold bag type things and slung owners. That
was in the day when you could take a big
old bag like that into a And we went in
there and sold everyone we had, including the ones off
our back, and walked back to half mile back to

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the hotel bare chest that after the game.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
It was about sixty degrees. It wasn't too bad. So
we did that and.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Then went home with about six hundred dollars profit after
the whole weekend. So it was a very profitable week
profitable weekend. But there's all kinds of goofy stuff that
happens with regard to the super Bowl and the carnival
environment that goes on around the super Bowl as well.
But I always have some super Bowl memories because of
stuff like that. Okay, bracketological prognostications in college basketball, as

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we know, there's really two main sets. There's really three
or four sets now of you know, bracket predictions. I
always give credit Joe Lonardi. You know Joey Brackett's as
I liked him. He's the one who invented the term bracketology.
Now other outlets, media outlets have co opted that term.

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It hasn't been the trademark by Lenardi, although he wrote
a book on bracketology. But he's the one who really
invented the science of it. So there's his And then
Jerry Palm does an excellent job with CBS Sports and
we've had him on the program as well, and he
does a good job. And there's a couple other outlets
to do it, but those are the two main ones,

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the ESPN and CBS Sports. Okay, So on Joe Lenardi's Bracketology,
that was his latest updated one that was released about
nine thirty our time this morning. This is what he
has right now on his bracket watch top overall c Auburn.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I was surprised there. First team out.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
U se f boy, if they've been able to hold
on and beat Kansas the other night, really would have
helped him. Last team in right now, he has his
Nebraska teams on the bubble the last four byes. That
means the teams that don't have to play in Dayton,
he has Utah State, Ohio State, Vanderbilt, whom the Long
Horns play in Nashville this weekend, and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Last four in those.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Are teams that would be playing in Dayton, Ohio, San
Diego State BYU Pittsburgh. Pitt really hurt themselves with a
sixteen point home loss last night to a below five
hundred Virginia team, so at San Diego BYU pitt and Nebraska.
Last four in first four al I mentioned UCF and

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then also Xavior, Arizona State and USC in the next
four hour would be Wake Forest, SMU, North Carolina and Arkansas.
They climbed into the next four out with their win
over Kentucky. They would look to take another big step
forward on that if they could win here in Austin
tomorrow night against Texas. So the way that Joe Lenardi

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has his bracket set out in his sixty eighteen bracket,
the eight teams who would be playing in Dayton, He's
got in a matchup of sixteen seeds Omaha and Morehead
State and marist An American, then two eleven seed matchups

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San Diego State and Nebraska, b YU and Pittsburgh. The
four number one seeds. Auburn would be in the South
region which brackets through to Atlanta, but they would open
in Lexing, Kentucky, and Alabama. In the Midwest in Indianapolis,
it would ultimately feed there, but they would start in
Lexington as well. Number one seed in the West. He

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has Tennessee opening in Raleigh and eventually pushing out of
San Francisco and in the East, which ultimately arrives in Newark.
Duke is the number one seed in Raleigh. Three SEC
teams and one ACC team. Those are the four number ones,

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the four number two Houston in the South, Purdue in
the midwest, Iowa State although the arrow pointing down after
their loss last night to Kansas, that in San Francisco,
out West and Florida, number two seed in Newark, and
then the three seeds he has Kentucky in the South

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have an opening, Providence can't play on their home floor
in Lexington. He has Marquette in the Midwest in Indianapolis.
Even though the Eagles are coming off, the loss of
the arrow pointing down right now turns a momentum are
trending down if you will. Texas A and m a
three seed on the rise, in the West to ultimately
feed to San Francisco and Kansas, the three in the

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East opening. So Texas, you ask Joe Lonardi, who two
weeks ago had Texas not even in the field, now
has the Loghorns as a number nine seed in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
The East bracket that would ultimately go to Newark.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
He has Texas opening in Raleigh against wait for it,
the eight seed Baylor. How about that. It's a Baylor
Texas eight nine matchup there first, and then the winner
would in all probability get Duke in the second round.
But that's that's where he has Texas right now. Now
that's where Lenardi has them. Jerry Palm right now has

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Texas as a ten seed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
He does have him in the field.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
He doesn't have him as a play in or a
last four in or anything like that, but he does
have him as a ten seed. And he has them
opening in Cleveland. Although he has them in the South region.
He has them opening in Cleveland against Louisville, a seven seed,
and then could play a two versus fifteen matchup. And
I get this, the two versus fifteen matchup is Marquette

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against unc Asheville. I know you're saying Oh wow, Texas
could go up against Shaka. Remember they did that last year,
played him in played him in Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
The fifteen seed that they have there listed unc Asheville
was coached by Mike Morell, who was on Shaka staff
when they coached here in Texas. So there's even more
wrinkles there. All right, there's We'll share some more bracketology
information as we go forward, But up next, we're gonna
hear more from Logorn's head coach, Rodney Terry, getting his
team ready for this matchup tomorrow night against Arkansas when

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we continue on AM thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Under the Zone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Back here on the Zone as we continue on this
Tuesday afternoon and getting you ready for this matchup with
Texas and Arkansas. You heard me mention the latest bracketology predictions.
And for those who said, what do you you know?
Is that really that big of deal? The only reason

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why I even go into those and mention that is
because Joe Lonardi's success rate. Because I know a lot
of people saying, you know a lot of the gambling
sites and stuff, they are only about sixty sixty five
percent KRAG something like that. Joe Lonardi has a ninety
seven percent accuracy rate on his projections ninety seven percent,

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and he's had years where he's gotten all but maybe
one correct, like ninety nine percent, and then he's had
like the seedings and where they're playing in high measure
as well. Now that's really hard to be able to project,
but that's what he asks. He's been really good at it.

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So that's why it's only really meant as a guideline
to let you know where Texas may be fought of
right now in the eyes of the committee. Because Joe
didn't sit on the committee, but he knows how the
committee works with the criteria that they use, and he
visits with a lot of them from time to time,
so he has a pretty good handle on that, and
so does Jerry Palm, and that's why I mentioned both

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of those guys. So that's to let you know where
Texas is right now in his eyes. Lenardes, Texas is
a nine seed. Jerry Palm theer a tent. In other words,
there's work to do regardless, and starting with tomorrow night,
if they find a way to get past Arkansas, then
it pulls them to level five hundred in Conference play
five and five in the top rated conference in the

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country and then would have them at seventeen and seven,
so they would have an opportunity to continue to build
on that. So anyway, let's hear more from Longhorn's head coach,
Rodney Terry. And so Rodney's got and this is a
question I asked him. I'm trying to remember who it

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was I asked him about, but about when a player
goes up Oh, I know what. It was something to
asked with Vick Schaeffer about a player going up against
his former school. And I asked Vick about that about
one of his players for the Texas women's team. Of course,
Tremon Mark is from Dickinson down in the Greater Houston

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area and actually began his collegiate career at U of
H at Houston. Then after playing there, he transferred to
Arkansas played for Arkansas last year. Now he's a long
worn and here he is about to go up against
his former school, the Arkansas Razorbacks. And so the question
for Rodnie was how does he handle it as a

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head coach when he knows he has a player going
up against his former school.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
You know what, I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Don't really think it matters to these guys right now.
I mean, it's the next opponent for us. It's an
opponent that we respect at a great at a high level,
and I think it's again just the next challenge in
front of us. So I don't think it really has
any bearing in terms of in terms of who we
who were playing with with the with Treymont, I mean,

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I can't speak for him, but but I would think
that it's just it's the next opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Arkansas got the big win at Kentucky. As we know,
that's been easily easy, their brightest spot in an otherwise
difficult season. They were one in six and SEC play
going into that game before they found a way to win.
So Roddy was asked why did he feel Arkansas have
been struggling UH to that point and what are some

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of the key benchmarks what he expects from a John
Calipari coach team.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I don't know about struggling.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I mean, I mean, Joey Caliberry has always gotten players.
He's a Hall of Fame coach for for a reason.
I mean, he's he's been one of the one of
the all time great recruiters.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
But he's also been a guy that's that's you know,
I think managed players really well over the years as well.
I mean you probably you can't find a player that's
played for coach Kal that doesn't love him like a father,
you know, and they all come back and they rally
around him, you know, and so you know, I think
his impact again, you know, goes further than just basketball

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with with his with his players. But uh, his his
teams are always played fast. His team, you know here
right now is an athletic team. He's got, you know,
a talented roster. He's always gonna have a talented roster.
You know, from top to bottom. His top eight guys
or are extremely talented players. They're athletic, they play really
fast in transition. Uh, they crashed the glass. They put

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a lot of pressure on the paint. They've always put
pressure on the paint. They you know, he was big
with the dribble drive for a while there and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Things of that nature there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
But but they're a team that constantly puts pressure on
you in transition and in the half court, attacking the basket. Defensively,
you know, they're playing probably as well as anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
In the league. You know, They've got a lot of
really good ball pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
They're trying to take you out of your initial offensive
execution and what you're trying to get done. They're they're
they're pretty good defensively right now. They played they played
exceptional the other night against Kentucky, uh, defensively, and so
you know, again Cal's got his guys playing pretty good
right now at.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
The right time of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, and just on the face taxes the first of
two meetings, by the way, within a span of let
me see if I remember this right, almost three weeks,
twenty days, I guess, because they'll play in Fayettell I
believe on the twenty fourth or twenty fifth. Anyway, back
to the divine prior thing about reclassifying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
From his senior year in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Artie was asked us it had to be a real
special player in his mind in order for him to
decide to go ahead and have that conversation about whether
that player reclassifies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
You know what, I think, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
It's probably an individual type situation. I don't think it's
for everybody, you know. I think I think for kids
that have a chance or have a ceiling, like a
guy like DP has, you know, they's a chance that
he may not be in school four years, you know
what I mean. So you know, you just kind of

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fast forward in his product process a lot quicker, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
I mean, Dp's a guy. You know, we have NBA
guys come in here.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
He's probably one of my most athletic guys on this team,
you know, and stuff, and you know, his selling again
of where he could be in the future moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I mean it's he's not even stretching it just yet,
you know, and things.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
But but uh, you take a guy like that with
young talent, you want to bring him in and start
trying to get his body to to to to reach
the potential that he has from a from a basketball standpoint,
because he's gonna need that, and start teaching him what's
gonna take to be successful at this level.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
And uh, smart kid.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Particulate, you know, could come in and handle the academic
side of it, would be no problems. Well, so all those,
all those factors are important to it. With the intangibles
to bring a kid early to school uh as well.
So I would say that you know, would be the
case for us. I mean, a kid that has an
upside like that, you want to go ahead and get
him in your program, get him acclimate it up already,

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and with the thought process is that he may not
be with you that long anyway, you may have a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Short time with him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Yeah, it's it's it's almost kind of like the football
thing about early and relies. By the way, in case
you hadn't noticed, tomorrow is National Signing Day. That used
to ring an awful lot when the first Wednesday in

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February was so huge National Signing Day for college football.
Now it's a secondary date because of the early signing period,
so it doesn't carry with it the pizazz, the cachet
that the that that the original signing date did for
a long long time. I'll have some thoughts on that

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coming up in the next segment. But anyway, some more
from Rodney Terry. Now, this is a question that I
understand why it was asked. It was asked by reporter
trying to gain a little more insight into what the
life of players can be like outside of the game

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of basketball. So Rodney Terry was asked about this. Does
he talk to the team a lot about life outside
of basketball?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You better believe he does.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
We try to shed Terry is a great point you know,
and again we're blessed every day with everything that's going on.
You know, I just said to our guys today, how
precious life is, you know, And you know, we had
a tragic couple of tragic situations here late, you know,
and we've lost some really you know, young people, you know,
young figure skaters, you know that have promising careers, you know,

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and you just have to every single day count your
blessings and have a lot of gratitude for being here
every day. But I let a lot of times our
formal players speak to our guys. I found a great
clip on Tristan Thompson talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
The importance of of.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Being an incredible teammate every day to try to help
his team that he's currently on right now win a
world championship and what that consisted of if he needed
to come in and be the best scout team guy,
you know, defensively, whatever he needed to do in terms
of helping a guy you know, offensively to try to
be the best version of himself, but just being a

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guy that's a giver and at that levels one through fifteen,
understanding even if you're number fifteen or number fourteen or
thirteen on that roster. Your importance to the to the
team and trying to help win a championship is very valuable.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
And that's that's really important. And you know, Tristan has.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Been one of those guys his whole career, you know,
and he's made a great career out of it. He's
made a lot of money to your point being that
kind of but I think you're trying to give guys
life lessons.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
You know all the time. You know, you got to
earn everything you get in life.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
No one's gonna give you anything in life, you know,
and but you learn to appreciate the work at that
that goes into how hard you have to work to
get where you want to get to. No one can
ever take that away from you. So you you know,
you try to teach those guys those valuable lessons in
the game of life, paring them for the game of
life in terms of being able to be a great provider,

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be a great husband, and those those are the kind
of things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
You try to instill in guys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I need some sage words there from Rodney Terry. I
have a little more from RT coming up, and then
those thoughts on National Signing Day when we continue here,
I'm thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
It's interesting listening to that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
iHeart Sports Update on this day in history because when
you get into January and then on in the February, yeah,
especially January, but also in the February, you start getting
all those anniversaries of Super Bowl And of course the
super Bowls didn't start being played in February until right
around the turn of the century, I think it was, but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
It was, you know, January.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Like for example, wherever I am, whenever I think about
it on January twelfth, on the twelfth, I always think
about Super Bowl three and the Big Jets upset of
the Baltimore Colts in super Bowl three. That was January twelfth,
nineteen sixty nine. I think about January eleventh. One of

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the earliest super Bowls played was Kansas City beating Minnesota
the next.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Year an underdog in super Bowl four.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
And just so you'll know, the earliest super Bowl ever
played was January ninth, nineteen seventy seven, of Super Bowl eleven,
the Raiders beating the Vikings. Is the way the calendar
fell that year, and it was January ninth. But now
they're you know here, it is more than a month
later that they'll be playing Super Bowl fifty nine this
week in New Orleans. A couple other things to hear

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from from Rodney Terry previewing this Texas Arkansas basketball game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
I pointed this out earlier that you know, it's one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Of those deals where you have a player who used
to play for one side now playing for Texas going
up against his former school. And he said he didn't
really say that much to him about it, but he
was asked with regard to Tremon Mark going up against
his former team, does he really point, you know, back
and forth, does he really want his team to really

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go on the attack. And what he's looking for was
does he tell Tremon Mark to really go attack Arkansas
much like he did on Saturday and then win at LSU.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
But I think it's really hard because they've only got
one player back from that team. Brazil is the only
only player that's back from that team last year, you know,
and so it's a whole new team. And you know,
even when we had tyres here that they and I
tried to add coach to ty Reech was just you know,
get lost in in your team, don't get lost in
the environment, don't worry about what people are saying. Block

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out the noise, you know, and just just you know, again,
be the best version of yourself. And uh, you know,
you control what you can control. And uh, I think,
you know, the same thing with Treymont, you know. I
think for for him, I think his focus with our team,
it's about us continue to try to get better both
on and off the court as.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
A season, uh continues.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
And uh, you know, a big game obviously because it's
the next game and an opponent that we respect, and uh,
you know, I don't think it will have as much
effect here probably as it will maybe when we go
over there that that he will have to possibly deal
with that a little bit of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
But you know, just kind of the landscape of college
athletics right now. Kids are are gonna have those opportunities.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
You're in and you're out, and you have to be
able to just thank them for the services that they
give you for the year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
They're with you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, Tyreek Hunter was the guy was trying to think
of going against his former team when he played for
Texas last year and they played against Iowa State. For
heaven's sakes, if the Long Word should wind up facing
Memphis in the NCAA tournament, they'd see Tyree's hunter again
since he now plays for the Memphis Tigers, and they're
having a pretty good season, all right. And then one

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other thing about Tremon mark again, his defense has been
really good, And Rodney was asked if examples of what
Tremon has done and improving his defensive game helps a
freshman like Trey Johnson who has gotten better defensively, is
the year has gone along?

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I got a chance to point to them all right
about it. Trust me, it was a little bit bored
and borning. No, those two guys in particular, But no,
I'm you know what, I'll give both of those guys
credit though. When I did challenge those guys, those two
guys would challenge really hard in the film session, really
really hard in front of the whole team.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
And and I'll give those guys credit. They've really have
answered the bell in terms of being guys that really
work hard on that side of the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
They I mean, they're trying and playing harder they can defensively,
and uh uh it's helped change our team, you know.
And uh, prior to that, not that they weren't playing
playing great, They just weren't playing at the level they
need to play, and they need to play really hard
on defense, and you gotta be a two way player
and uh so. So no, they've had a chance to

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to to have been called out in front of the
team and uh uh and they have responded. I will,
I will give them credit for that. Trades responded. You
see him playing, trying to play really hard on defense.
He's wanted to try to guard, you know, the opposing
team's best offensive player.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
You know, so he's taking on that challenge. And that's
what you wanted to see.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
You want to see if if guys were gonna be competitive, Okay,
if they were gonna take the coach.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
In the right way in that regards.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
And and I'll I'll say it without in the reservation,
I'll say it in front of our team. I think
they've they've responded in a in a very positive light
in that regards. But they had they had some really
tough come to Jesus talks about that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Yeah it can, it might be that way, and trying
to get Trey Johnson's defensive game up, and it has
gotten better, it has improved. They all did a really
good job. And I understand things are relative. All things
are relative based on the type of team they were
facing an LSU but still to play the way they
did on the road unless you played Auburn tough the

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prior Wednesday at home, and the long words just dismantled
the Tigers. So that was impressive to see there. All Right,
I was I was going to bring this up, and
tomorrow is a national signing day, uh for college football.
But it's not like it was like it used to be.

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It used to be the big thing in February. On
that first Wednesday in February, you kind of, depending on
your level of excitement and enthusiasm and interest in the
whole recruiting landscape, could wait breathlessly or perhaps maybe not breathlessly,
but waited eagerly anticipating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
The names that would come down on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
And when I was working up in Dallas at KRLD,
Brad Sham was doing the talk show when I was
Brad's producer, and a big part of what we did
was on National Signing Day, Brad would get a recruiting
analyst on, or he would get somebody else on, or

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you know, a coach from one of the Southwest Conference
schools or whatever on with him. My job was to
compile the information, the list of all of the sinees,
and it would come off the ap wire machine. Now
this is this is old school, I get it. You know,

(01:23:07):
there's a lot of people would say what because in
the pre internet days on that you the news would
come over the ap ap wire machine, you know, like
a teletype thing. It would come across like that and
you would tear it off and you'd have all this
copied and support. It'd be just like if you were
reading something coming down like on your laptop from one

(01:23:28):
of the wire services news services, CNN dot com or
or something like that. But they also had their sports
division and they would have all of the signing list
and it would come out and it would and would
and it'd be like this long, long roll of paper
rolling off of a spool because they had to. It

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would list each player individually for each of the back
then nine schools in the Southwest Conference Arkansas, Texas, Texas
A and m Byler Rice, TCU, SMU Houston, Uh, you know,
all of the all of the Southwest Conference schools and

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he had to play. And then you would also have
North Texas in there, and even while he was telling
Football ut Arlington before they dropped the program after the
eighty five season, And they have all of these signees listed,
so I had to gather up this big spool with
all the side of the and then Brad would read
those on the air, or I would read them, or
both of us would or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
And and that's how it was back then.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
You waited for those names to magically appear there through
the ap wire machine, and you just ran down the
list and you went for it, and that's how you
found out about them for sure that they had actually
signed that day. This is, of course, pre social media,
so you're not going to find out instantaneously that somebody signed.
Not only that now it's all changed because of the

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early signing day in December, which I think is a
good thing for that and but but they still have
the secondary date for those who haven't made their decisions