Super Bowl Postpartum, Texas upsets No. 2 South Carolina and Rodney Terry's thoughts ahead of No. 2 Alabama

It's a Super Bowl recap show with Craig Way and Cameron Parker. They talk about the Eagles' blow-out win over the Chiefs, what this means for Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City, and if Philly is about to embark on a dynastic run. Plus, hear from Vic Schaefer and Madison Booker after Texas's upset win over South Carolina. Also hear from Rodney Terry as Texas hosts No. 2 Alabama on Tuesday night.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Booker, bounce pass to the cutting. Holly shreds off the glass.
It's going to g hit the deck hard, but she's
all right. Shay gets the bucket her first basket checks
is up by four twenty to sixteen pop out drives
into the page shot rejected, Holly Jones, Booker, take your pick.
They were all there and the long warns have it.
Now two on.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Two lead pass, join Lee up the glass.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's good ten point long worn lead. At the midway
mark of the second corner of the fans on their feet.
Rory still pounding off the dribble full while a little closer.
Now twelve seconds to go. First half arm and stole
on the dribble top of the arc. So the right
side picks up the dribble. Now seven seconds off to
win inside a bounce pass.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Kyle old Acre.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
In traffic, turns for the drop step the score off
the glass does old Acre for the right side, trying
to take press it off the dribble, then lost the
dribble picked up by old Acre. Pilot lead pass Madison Booker,
book drive it to the hope that she stars and she's.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Buck So what a drive to the hope by Madison
Booker and wall.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Fagan to shoot a long three well off the glass.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
We bound Harmon.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
That's gonna do it down goost.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Number two South Carolina's fifty seven game FCC streak is over.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
The Longhorns win it.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
The final score Texas sixty six, South Carolina sixty two,
and then we all went home and watched the Super Bowl.
What a game that was, right, yeah, right, good afternoon, everybody.
Welcome to the program here on thirteen under the Zone.

(01:36):
My name is Craig Waite. Thanks very much for joining us.
US of course includes the producer put together that nice
highlight montage of that huge win for Texas women's basketball yesterday,
fourth rank Longhorns beating the number two South Carolina game Cocks,
ending their fifty seven game fifty seven game regular season

(02:01):
conference win streak. It's important to point that out because
they lost in the in the in their conference tournament
more recently than that, but still in all, it was
a huge win for Texas winning that one yesterday, sixty
six sixty two.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
The long rune now twenty four and two.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
They won eight in a row and they're tied for
first place atop the conference standings with South Carolina also
with LSU, and Kentucky can join that group with a
win tonight. As Kentucky plays Ole Miss, could be a
four way tie there, and of course Texas travels to
Kentucky to play the eleventh rank Wildcats tonight, so or

(02:46):
rather to play they travel to Texas travels to Kentucky.
Kentucky up to number eight in the rankings, and they
play at Ole Miss tonight. The new rankings are out
and Texas moved up one spot to number three, ahead
of South Carolina, dropped two spots to four. Texas trails
Notre Dame, who beat Texas this year in overtime up

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in South Bend back in December, and Ucla still the
unbeat number one, but the Long runs up to number
three in the national ranking.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So that was in the early part of the day.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Then we all went home and we were treated to
Super Bowl fifty nine, which was a real treat if
you're an Eagles fan.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
If you're a Chiefs fan, definitely was not.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And if you just wanted to see a good game,
you didn't have much there on that. There's a lot
of opinions about the game, the halftime show, the ads,
all of that.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
So we always invite the input, the opinion, the perspective.
Our producer Cameron D.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Parker.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The D in the birth certificate stands for.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Dallas, as in the Dallas Cowboys, who saw another NFC
East team win a Super Bowl, who also saw their
former offensive ordinator Kellen Moore be in line for the
Saints head coaching job. How do you feel about that?
By the way, you weren't really big on Kellen Moore

(04:09):
being a candidate for the Cowboys. If I remember, he's
better off just staying in Philadelphia. Yeah, instead of taking
the Saints job.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I would not want to go work for that organization
currently and their roster and what they have the next
two years coming up in terms of salary cap. They
are in salary cap hell for the next two three
four years, I think. Yeah, obviously not a great culture
there that's been left in place ever since Sean Payton
was let go. They've gone through what this would be

(04:38):
the third head coach since Sean Payton. Yeah, just does
not seem like a great place to go win football
games at. So if I were Kellen Moore, I would
stay in Philadelphia, you know, continue the coach Jalen Hurts
and Saquon and that fantastic offensive line and AJ Brown
and Goddard and Defonte Smith. You have, but you know
you're gonna have a great defense on the other side
of the field. You know why I leave that. You know,

(04:59):
wait wait another year or two until coaching, until a
game comes up or a team comes up rather that
you want to coach for. I wouldn't settle for the Saints.
But okay, that's just my opinion. You know, maybe killing
Moore just really really wants to be a.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Head coach could be and we'll see where it leads
from there. Meanwhile, I can't remember if you picked the Chiefs.
I picked the Eagles. I don't think I had an
official pick. Okay, I picked the Eagles, but I picked
like twenty seven to twenty four. I don't know of
anybody that would have picked what happened yesterday. And if

(05:34):
people say they did, then they're either a genius or
they're lying one or the other, because I don't think
anybody saw that coming yesterday. And it begs the question,
what was more eye opening the way the Eagles played
what is being described as nearly a perfect game, or

(05:54):
the Chiefs looking absolutely awful. And I think that's probably
what a lot of people that you know, I watched.
I always watch all of the heavy duty post game coverage,
the news conferences, the reports, the live interviews, all that
kind of stuff, and it was a while before we

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got to hear from the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
There was so much that was about the.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Eagles and interviewing not only Nick Sirianni, not only him,
but in Jalen Hurts and other Eagles players as well.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
But there was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Analysis and post analysis and additional analysis and all that
before we ever, I think it was almost midnight before
I finally saw the press conference, or at least parts
of the press conference with both Patrick mahomes and and.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Also Andy Reid seeing them.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
And to their credit, they did give credit and deference
to the Eagles for playing an extremely good game. And
then of course they added and I think it's this
is certainly fair to say we didn't we didn't play well,
and we did a lot of things wrong. I mean,
Travis Kelsey pointed out about drop passes. He had two
of them, and so there was, you know, that that

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sort of thing. But it is it is kind of
interesting to note, when you get a game like that,
how much of it is what the Eagles did and
how much of it is what the Chiefs did to themselves?
And I think the answer is somewhere in between, really,
because there were some unforced errors by the Chiefs in
the game, but that Eagles defense really just constantly harassed

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and pressured Patrick Mahomes into making mistakes that he normally
does not make. That you know, the the not the
pick six by Cooper de Gene, but the one right
before the half to set up the other score was
one where he just had a body falling into him,
hands in his face, and he still kind of did
a little panic throw. And that was one thing I

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think that Mahomes we haven't really seen him do, not
in large measure anyway, and it was kind of a
panic throw it and it got picked off and it
set up the touchdown to make a twenty four to nothing,
and that was pretty much it at that point.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
But it was it was.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Impressive to see what the Eagles defense did in that game.
Let me also say, as a Rams pan it makes
me feel good that the Rams played them better than
anybody did in the postseason. Actually had a chance to
win the game. They're in Philadelphia. Eight but that and
four point fifty will get you coffee at Starbucks. Except today,
by the way, it's free coffee day at Starvest, so

(08:35):
you could do it all the way home.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's all day to day free coffee day for this spot.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
And they did a little design on there that said
enjoy with it, a little smiley faced thing on it.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So anyway, so you know, but they I thought.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
The Eagles were incredibly impressive and it was I think, what,
at least, at the risk of recency bias, one of
the best total team performances we've seen in the.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Super Bowl, at least in quite some time. Anyway, Yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
I thought the going into this game it felt like
the Philadelphia Eager Eagles by far had the better roster,
but there was always that, well, you know, there's Patrick Mahomes,
and you don't want to bet against Pat Mahomes. And
we saw the last two Super Bowls against Philadelphia in
San Francisco where I felt like the Chiefs weren't the
better team in either of those games, yet they somehow

(09:30):
found a way to win. And I think maybe some
of that also could be just Eagles in San Francisco
were maybe not afraid of the Chiefs, but it's you know,
they're like, oh boy, here's Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid
in this this incredible offense, in this defense, and it
felt like Philadelphia played this game like, yeah, we're not
a fred of you, Like we should have won the

(09:50):
first time around. And our team is better. We're better defensively,
better offensively. We have one of the best defensive coordinators
in all of offense. We have a healthy Jalen Hurts, and
it showed. And for Kansas City to win that game
last night, you know, Patrick Mahomes probably had to play
a perfect game, and I think a lot of us
just expected him to do so because we've seen it
time and time and time again in the postseason this year,

(10:13):
last year, or two years ago, even when they lost
to the Buccaneers. They didn't have a great offensive line,
but they still got to the Super Bowl, and the
Super Bowl was exactly like the one they lost to
Tampa Bay and Tom Brady. The defensive line of Philadelphia
controlled this game. Their offensive line controlled this game, and
that's how it played out. And Mahomes, he threw two
awful interceptions and you could argue, Yeah, you know, that

(10:37):
was a lot that had to do with the pressure.
Philadelphia got pressure on Mahomes and got into him where
he didn't make a perfect throw. But Mahomes also played
awful in this game until the fourth quarter when it
looked like Case had their two and three stingers in.
So Mahomes did not play a perfect game, the better
team did win, and football season sadly has come to

(10:57):
an end with a very anti climatic Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
All right, you bring up some other interesting points I
want to get to, and we want to offer it
up there for those who would like to text into
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(11:23):
Your thoughts on the Super Bowl, your thoughts on the
Eagles where they're placed in history. For that matter, the Chiefs,
who in the Mahomes era are three and two in
Super Bowls, three close call wins and two absolute wipeout losses.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
What does that say not.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You can say in specific about Mahomes, but about the
Chiefs overall. Also, did you have a favorite Super Bowl lad?
I don't know if favorite really fits it. I was
a little under by that. And I know folks will
have their own thoughts on the halftime performance as well.
I've got my thoughts on that as well, So.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
We'll get told of that.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We're gonna hear also later on in the three o'clock hour,
we'll hear from Rodney Terry, Texas pen's basketball coach, and
we'll hear from Vick Schaeffer, Texas women's coach, on that
big win for the Longhorns yesterday. So we'll hear from
the two head coaches this afternoon. We'll get to your questions,
your thoughts on our text line. Glad to have you

(12:29):
with us on a Monday here on thirteen hundred the Zone.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
It's the Craig Way Show with the Voice of the
Texas Longhords in Hall of Vame broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Happy to have you.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
With us on a Monday.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I know a lot of people. We just heard Cameron
Parkers say sad that football.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Has ended.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I take a look a look at that. In a
different light. But I'm in a different world than you know,
the vast majority of the people listening to this program,
because you know, I work on a seasonal calendar.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
So football comes and football goes.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
And then basketball comes, and basketball goes, and baseball comes
and baseball goes. In other words, I moved to the
next event. It doesn't mean I don't miss it that
sort of thing, But I don't know. Maybe there's some
sort of physiological thing that happens inside of me. When
football's done, I'm kind of mentally ready to move to

(13:48):
the next thing. It rolls back to that same deal
when and I've asked, I've told this story before, whenever
somebody asked me, what's my favorite sport to call? I said,
I always give it the cop out answer, But there
is truth in the cop out answer. The cop out
answer is whatever's in season. But the truth part of
it is when I'm in that specific season, that's what

(14:10):
it feels like I'm supposed to be doing. In other words,
when I'm in September, I'm not thinking about calling college baseball.
When it is deep February, I'm not really thinking about
football that much. And when it's you know, March, or

(14:33):
or no, when it's June. If I'm in Omah, I'm
not thinking about the NCAA basketball tournament. It's whatever you're
supposed to be doing at the time, is how it
kind of reconciles itself with me. But I do get
when people miss pro footballer goes away. Hey, listen, it's
for that reason that the UFL exists, right, And there

(14:54):
are some people who simply can't get enough of football,
so spring football is around the corner for them in
terms of the professional side of it. Are you interested
all in the UFL? Do you watch it?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
See?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And I don't. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I mean, if it's all I might look for a
few minutes or whatever, but I'm not. Yeah, I'm not
really into it. Maybe if we had a team in
this town or whatever. Maybe I don't know, but spring
football just doesn't register with me on the professional level.
Spring football college practices that's a different thing in tier

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because that's all season work that's going on, and even
that we're hearing may undergo change. There's, you know, a
growing chance that we may not have a spring football
game this year, and that is simply because of the
way the calendar is working. And the poaching that can
happen on college rosters and the transfer porter and everything else,

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and that college programs across the country may move away
from actual spring games some perhaps even maybe even away
from spring practice other than to have like say, off
season type conditioning like they do in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Those kinds of things. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Time will tell on those on that front, if we
have those kinds of things happen, that could happen. But
in the meantime, like I said, you just kind of
feel like, maybe, you know, maybe this time you move
on to the next thing, especially after that dominating performance
that the Eagles gave yesterday in the win over the Chiefs.

(16:27):
So this begs the question a lot of things you
knew this was going to happen, Cameron, especially after as
lopsided the game as it was yesterday, that folks would
definitely come right back in weigh in with it and say,
all right, get ready, now the Eagles are on the.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Threshold of a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
They said that last year after the Chiefs won two
in a row, no reason why they can't make it
become the first team in the NFL history to win
three in a row. Well, yeah, there is simply because
they have been done, because it's very, very difficult to do.
The last team to win three consecutive NFL titles was
the Green Bay Packers, and the first of those was
the year before the Super Bowl started.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
They beat the Browns.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
If they had had a Super Bowl that year, nineteen
sixty five, they would have played the Buffalo Bills, a
good Buffalo team in a first ever Super Bowl, but
that didn't happen, and start the Super Bowl till the
next year, and the Packers won the NFL title over
the Cowboys and then beat the Chiefs in Super Bowl one,
and then beat the Cowboys in the Ice Bowl the
following year, sixty seven, to make it three straight NFL titles,

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something the Packers are very proud of to this day,
and then beat the Raiders in Super Bowl two. That's
the closest we've come to having three straight world champions.
But you know, again, one of them was pre Super Bowl.
There has never been a three peat Super Bowl winner,
and I don't know if the ball ever had one,

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or at least not for some time. I think this
Chief excuse me, I think this Chiefs team was as
well equipped to do it as about any but they
ran into an Eagles team that's built on defense in
the run game, and even though the Chiefs made a

(18:17):
concerted effort to take Saquon Barkley out of the game
or ensure that he wasn't a factor, Jalen Hurts established
himself in the run game himself. I believe he became
was it the second quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
To individually lead both teams in rushing.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
He had more rushing guards than any other player for
the Eagles or for the Chiefs. There's only one other
guy who did that, Steve Young, who did that for
the forty nine Ers when they beat the Chargers in
the Super Bowl. So they found other ways around. Plus
he was able to hit downhill, throw downfield throws, and
they were very opportunistic. They have the pick six by

(19:00):
Cooper de Jean, They had, you know, the other turnovers
that set up scores. They had short fields to work with,
and as champions can do, they can take advantage of
it and make you pay. So so that's where the
Eagles set up. So now the question is what becomes
of the Chiefs? Are they you know, Mahomes said in

(19:22):
the press conference yesterday that they there's still a young
football team that can come back and be ready to go.
They do have some veterans on that group, some long
and the two veterans like Kelsey and a couple other guys,
but DeAndre Hopkins is one of those guys, by the way,

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And incidentally, we didn't get the seaxavior worthy. Haven't ically
what it was? One hundred and fifty seven receiving yards
on the two tight chasses. Yeah, now, the vast majority
that was after the fact and the issue had been
long decided, but still good to see X do that.
So where does this Chiefs team factor in? They're good
enough to come back and win, bounce back and win

(20:05):
again like they did after losing the Tampa Bay or
will it be out for a while or have we
seen them hit their zenith? I think as long as
Mahomes is there, they've got a shot. But it'll be
interesting to see what Andy Reid and what the organization
does in terms of its pieces of this group.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, as long as Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are
still there, they're always going to have a chance to contend.
But I think this does show and send a message
to the rest of the league including the Baltimore Ravens,
Buffalo Bills. That, yeah, this Chiefs team is beatable. You
just got to get out of your own way. And
also have a pretty darn good offensive and defensive line,

(20:44):
which is easier said than done for Kse. It is
interesting because they go into this offseason with with some
big free agents coming up. Nick Bolton, who the former
of Missouri product who played a huge role in their
win over Philly the first time. He'll be an unrestricted
free agent, A handful of guys on the offensive line
defensive line also free agents. Amna who is one of those,

(21:07):
Trey Smith, the right guard, Justin Reid the safety already
mentioned a Mena who Dj Humphries will be a free agent,
Mike Pennell a free agent. So they're going to have
a lot of guys who will be free agents and
some other guys who are up for extensions as well.
They're probably gonna have to, you know, address these issues.
But it always comes back down to do they have

(21:29):
Patrick Mahomes. They do, then okay, they still have a
chance to win. So I mean going in the next season,
you know, I mean people were still picking against the
Chiefs this year and you know, they prove them wrong
going in the next season. I still think the Chiefs
will be a popular pick. And I think Buffalo and
Baltimore have better rosters than the Chiefs, but they don't
have Patrick Mahomes. So next year will be interesting. But

(21:50):
if your bill's a Ravens fan, you feel pretty good.
If you're Chiefs fan, you know, Okay, your run has
come to an end. You still got two super Bowls though,
and still will be in a good place next season.
But you're going to have to, you know, make some
moves on the offensive line to you know, protect Patrick Mahomes.
It was the downfall for them when they lost to
Tom Brady the Buccaneers, and it was a downfall for

(22:10):
them last night. And also this receiving call. You know,
Nicole Hardman, Juju, DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown. Those guys are
free agents.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You know.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Xavier Worthy is the only one who I believe is
under a contract extension or under a contract rather that
rookie contract. So how are you going to address the
receiver position? Travis Kelce, you know, another year older. He
didn't look young in spry last night. That's for sure.
That's the spot they got to work on the running
back position as well. You know, they kind of just
address it as a ghost. To adrep Ryan, the former
Hendrickson Hawk, he'll be a free agent. He had a

(22:41):
lot of playing time last night. Pacheck go out there
as well. So it'll be a very interesting offseason. But
you know, they answer your question, Greig, as long as
they do have Pat Mahomes and Andrew Reid, then you
feel pretty good about them.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But this roster does have flaws. We'll get to more
on the the Chiefs, the Eagles of Super recap and
all that up next. We have Inconceivable, which has some
Super Bowl notes to which when we continue here on
thirteen under the Zone on this postpartum Super Bowl Monday,
there are you feeling a little post football depression?

Speaker 5 (23:16):
There?

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Cameron Is said it was sad. I'm not film depression.
I'm excited for basketball and baseball, so am I?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So am I?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Baseball? Of course, softball off to a great start. Six
and oh the number one ranked Texas softball team. How
about that weird schedule they had over the weekend. They
played six games against six different teams in six consecutive days,
I mean, in three consecutive days, excuse me Friday, Saturday
Sunday in three different cities. They started off in laugh

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at Louisiana on Friday, they beat Long Longwood run rule
to make nothing in five innings. Then they run ruled
the home standing rate and cagns of Louisiana on Friday.
They moved west down I ten to Beaumont on Saturday
and beat Houston and Lamar back to back and then

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went up by forty five to Huntsville and beat Tulsa
and then.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Beat Sam Houston. So they're off to a six oh start.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
They'll have their first games coming this week in the
BVO Classic, so Mike White's team off to a good start.
Long Worn Baseball opens its season on Friday in Arlington
at the Shriner's Hospital for Children Classic, their Globalife Field.
Texas will play Louisville Friday night at seven, They'll play
Ole Miss Saturday night, and they'll play Oklahoma State Sunday evening,

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and so look forward to bringing you those games here
on thirteen under the Zone. So we have those games
for you throughout the course of the weekend. Texas women
with a gigantic win yesterday beating South Carolina in Folks
of us. This is the significance of it. Right now,
I would say this, there was already uh, some bracketological

(25:10):
prognostication out there, the main there there are two or
three different sets of bracketology that I follow, uh for
women's basketball, and about four or five for men's basketball.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And the win for Texas yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
It's interesting because there was a there was an article
that said, you know, what does that mean for Texas? Well,
it means that, first of all, they moved up to
number three with the win. They became the first team
to win an AP Top five matchup without making a
three pointer since Yukon went over nine and a win
against Oklahom in the two thousand and two National Championship game.

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This is not a prolific three point shooting team. We
pointed that out. They have some decent three point numbers,
but they don't shoot that much of it, and they
it was pretty impressive. They're now twenty four and two
and Madison Booker had the double double yesterday. We'll hear
from her a little bit later on, but it was

(26:17):
a it was a big It was a big win
there for Texas in that in the win over South
Carolina yesterday, and I like what don Staley had to
say when she said that, you know, we're it talking
about it right now, saying that that women's basketball on

(26:39):
Super Bowl Sunday from the do that that that shows
what they've been, you know, what they've come up with,
uh and and how good they've been. So it was
a good win for tax has no question about they.
It doesn't get any easier though. They have to go
to Kentucky on Thursday. In Kentucky's number eight in the country.
They only have one SEC loss now they played at

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ole Miss. Assuming they win that game at ole Miss,
there'll be a four way tie for first Texas, South Carolina, LSU,
and Kentucky and the Longhorns next two games are Kentucky
and LSU at Kentucky on Thursday, the LSU on Sunday afternoon.
So the challenges continue for the Longhorns. But as I
started to say, what they did do to help themselves

(27:22):
out quite a bit is to put themselves in position
perhaps to be a number one seed. I would think
that they probably need to win one of the next
two games. These next two games, not necessarily both, but

(27:46):
I would say they would need to win at least
one of the next two and then win the last
three games. They'll be favored to win those last three
games in the regular season. That would take them into
the postseason at twenty.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Eight and three.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Going into the conference tournament, and they'd stand a real
good shot to be a number one seed.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
With regard to the men, it's back to back losses
and they'll try to get back after it tomorrow night
against number two Alabama. On the text line, clean up
from our number one. So I said that my theory
on the Longhorn men's woes is that by this time
of the season Rodney Terry is so hoarse that his

(28:29):
players can't understand him, much like John Dutton in seasons
four and five of Yellowstone. I will admit to you
that I haven't seen Yellowstone, so I don't know, but
I get what you're saying. With RT, he's been fighting
through it for sure. He was also sick for a
time too, and that doesn't help. So we'll hear some

(28:50):
from Rodney coming up in the next segment. Also on
the text line, somebody had said this morning to the
morning kickoff, guys, men's basketball maybe could take a few
lessons from women also, as long as the referees were
consistently bad for both teams, I'm okay with that. I
don't know if bad is the proper phrase. I I

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would say this. I say this every year, and usually
it's about this time of year, and especially when we
get into the NCAA Tournament in March, or a conference
tournament and then NCAA Tournament March. If you are not
a regular viewer of women's college basketball, in other words,
you know, you don't watch a whole bunch of games.
You might see a game here or there, especially if

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you're a long worn fan, whatever. If you don't watch
a lot of it, you're going to be surprised at
the lack of top flight officiating. Let me just put
it that way.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
This is not to say.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
They're all terrible or they're all bad, because they aren't.
But there's enough of a thread of inconsistency in the
officiating of the women's game that the cash visual fan
or the casual viewer looked like, go, wow, yeah, that's
that's just how it is. And we see a lot

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of the same officials work in the same games big
games as well too. There's a few who are really
really good. The Cantor's a Hall of Famer. She's been
at a long time. I think she was doing the
l s U. Tennessee game yesterday. There's some other ones
who are really, really good. The three who were working
a game of the magnitude of Texas South Carolina yesterday.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Eh, some of them.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Okay, you know, I think Brian Small is a pretty
good official. Kevin Petel, I'm kind of ambivalent about. So,
you know, the problem is that some some games they
look really good. In some games that they don't. They
just they just don't. And I had it explained to
me a long time ago when by a former Big

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twelve comite who told me when I asked him about
the inconsistency in women's basketball officiating, he said, we can't
get enough quality officials elevated enough, because not enough for
applying at the base level to start their training to
get good. And that's why we see a lot of
the same ones over and over. And I think it
still holds true today. There are some really good ones
out there, there really are, and then there's some that's

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they're just you could see it game by game, you
can see the inconsistency there.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So I think that's part of it. With regard to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Somebody on the text line said, instead of the second half,
watched the first half of the game, but instead of
the second half, I watched a Cannon and Colombo double
header on TV Land, and it was just a delight.
I'll bet you Cameron Parker has no idea what Cannon
and Colombo were. Do you know I remember Columbo? You

(31:49):
do Canadon. I don't know, Okay, detective shows. Cannon a
was a detective guy, William Conrad. Colombo, of course was
Peter Falk always had the trench code on I beg
your pardon. One f could to ask you a couple
of questions. You got a nice place, you got here,

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one more thing, and then he would nail the person
on that.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
So I could.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I could see that where you might have enjoyed a
TV Land marathon more so than what was there for
the second half of the game. Certainly, I.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
In the second half of the game, it kind of
lured me like a train wreck or whatever, you know,
or a big car crash or something.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You're just you're just watching, you're watching.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And I began to think when it got late third quarter,
I started to think, are we going to see the
first shut out in Super Bowl history? There's never been
a shutout in a Super Bowl. The closest it has
come twice is three points Dallas Miami and super Bowl six,

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but that was a ten to three game at the half.
The Dolphins scored I think in the second quarter and
didn't score again. The other was that desultory Rams Patriots
thirteen to three to bacle when Jared Goff was proving
he had no future as the Rams quarterback and the
Rams lost that game thirteen to three.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I went back and I looked over some of the
Super Bowl history. There was a.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
String of games six times in seven years, I think,
where the losing team scored in single digits. No shutouts,
but single digits. You go all the way back to
Super Bowl three. The colt scored seven points against the Jets.
Jets won sixteen to seven. Super Bowl four. The Vikings

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scored seven points against the Chiefs. Chiefs won twenty three
to seven Super Bowl five. The Cowboys scored double digits,
but only thirteen points in that sixteen thirteen loss to
the Colts. Super Bowl six, the Cowboys beat the Dolphins
I mentioned twenty four to three. Super Bowl seven, the
Dolphins complete the perfect season by beating Washington fourteen to seven.

(34:14):
They go seventeen to them Super Bowl eight. The Dolphins
made it back to back. I think they were an
even better team, even though they lost two games during
the regular season. They beat the Vikings twenty four to
seven completely dominated game. Wasn't even nearly that close. That
was at Rice Stadium they played that Super Bowl and
Super Bowl nine. The Steelers won their first Super Bowl.

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They beat the Vikings sixteen to six six times in
seven years the losing team had single digit points. Now,
the Chiefs didn't wind up single digit points because they
scored sixteen to fourth quarter points in garbage time, as
we know. But they were down big. It was, you know,

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thirty four to nothing. And that's the largest deficit a
Patrick Mahomes quarterback team has faced since he was there.
You know, they they brought up Fox brought up the
deal about twenty four to nothing largest deficit.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Lo whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Weren't the Texans up twenty four nothing on the Chiefs
in an AFC championship game or AFC playoff game?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
It was the divisional game. The divisional game.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I know, at one point they showed it during the broadcast. Okay,
I saw a thing. That's the largest deficit at twenty
four to nothing. I said, wait, wait, tied for largest deficit.
Either that or maybe it wasn't Super Bowl history, because
the Broncos trailed Seattle by thirty oh yeah six, yeah yeah, yeah,
they got badly, they lost by They ended up losing

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by thirty five.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
They lost forty three to eight.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
But the twenty nineteen divisional round, Mahomes, Yeah, and the
Chiefs trailed by twenty four to ninety four. Yeah nothing, okay,
obviously came back and won that game.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Was certainly the largest deathsit Mahomes team had faced in
a game of any kind.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
And the you know, and so they came back.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And they scored six and the third and sixteen and
the fourth so wound up being forty to twenty two.
Is the final score in Super Bowl fifty nine. So
we'll see how it is going forward. We'll have more
on that coming up. But we're also going to hear
from Longhorn men's basketball coach Rodney Terry as his team
prepares to take on number two Alabama tomorrow night at
Moody Center. That's next here on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
We're back. It's the Craig Way Show with Hall of
Fame broadcaster and voice of the Texas Longhards Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Coming up in the next segment, we'll we hear from
Addison Booker at twenty points and eleven rebounds.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And that went over South Carolina yesterday.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
More on the Super Bowl around the corner as well,
but wanted to start the prep for Texas Alabama tomorrow
night at Moody Center. And in his media availability, Rodney
Terry was asked about when he was coaching at Presdent
of State in twenty sixteen and they were really struggling,
all of a sudden, they flipped the script and turned
around and made the NCAA Tournament. And some folks may

(37:24):
be wondering about that given the fact that.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Texas is having.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Some struggles right now, having dropped back to back games,
and even though they're still listed as being in the
NCAA Tournament field at the moment, can they flip the
script and are there any similarities between this team then
and what changed back in twenty sixteen?

Speaker 8 (37:43):
That team actually finished second in the league that year
behind San Diego State, and we played in the championship
game in the Medlonwest Conference Tournament to win.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
But our last five seven.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Games of the season, we played terrific to rific defense.
We got a lot of offense off our defense, and
they got star players really stepped up and.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Got things done at a high level.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
I thought we had a six man off the bench
that that was really good for us. Junior Lewis played
like a starter and you know, really played really well
forced down the stretch. But I would attribute that a
lot to our defense and rebound and I think the
same thing that this team right here down the stretch,

(38:30):
we continue to buy into our heart. We have to
play defensively and make competitive plays down the stretch. We
shown at times in conference play that we could rebound
the basketball in this league at a very high clip.
But you've got to do it every night. You know,
You've got to rebound and defend at a very high level.

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I know it's something that we placed an emphasis on
over the last we could, so really just trying to
get back to being a solid, competitive defensive team with
the high was his own finishing possessions with physical rebounds.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
So there was the similarities and differences.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It's interesting. Brought up Julian Louise.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Remember Julian was a Longhorn and then transferred out to
Fresno and ended up helping Rodney and the Longhorns advance
to the NCAA tournament. All right, Next up, Artie was
asked about Kenda Weaver. Now, Kendall's had that hip flexer thing,

(39:32):
and since he has been out, he's been listed as indefinite. Now,
those of us who are around the team and watching
him both at home and road seeing him work through
some things.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But the season is going along and.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Somebody was asked if there's a possibility that kend Of
Weaver could actually even possibly medically red shirt and so
that is still to be determined at this point. Okay,
the Longhorns of course got beat on the boards on
Saturday and uh and and they're gonna have to turn

(40:06):
that around as well. So Texas is uh trying to
uh get better in terms of its rebounding as well,
and can they be a better rebounding team?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
That was the question was asked of our team.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Well, I think you know, you talk about two different
sides of the ball offensively, I think we had definitely
improved over the course of conference play. Would be a
team that could crash and get second chance opportunities.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
We were getting.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
We had, you know, consecutive get well the you know,
you talk about two different sides of the ball. Offensively,
I think we had definitely improved over the course of
conference play. Would be a team that could crash and
get second chance opportunities.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
We were getting. We had, you know, consecutive games, you
know we had to stretch.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
We had like four or five straight games we had
ten more offensive rebounds. So we we've shown we could
do it on the offensive side of it. We've shown
at times we can do it on the defensive side
of it, where we've limited uh second chance opportunities.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I think from time to time.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
As much as we want to be physical in between games,
it's really hard for us to be as physical as
we want to be sometimes in practices because of the
availability of our guys and kind of just where we
are off from a physical standpoint this time of year.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
You can't go in and just beat you guys up.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
You need you need to have them in gage, but
you also need to have competitive practices as well. You know,
even with a quick turnaround and and being nicked up
a little bit. You know, we went pretty physical today
because we had to. We had to get the mindset
again to doing it to what we're actually doing it
in practice, bone on bone, and the same thing with deepense.

(41:46):
You got to be there to practice that way if
you want to play that way in terms of being
super competitive. Uh, and that's where your ones goes against
your twos as opposed to just going to getst your
scout team all the time.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, that's a big part of as well. And I
thought it was significant. But he talked about having a
healthy enough roster. I pointed out about Kenda Weaver being out.
Remember Tramont Mark did not play on Saturday due to
a shoulder injury. So what is the latest on Trumont Mark.

Speaker 8 (42:15):
Yeah, Tremont had a really good practice today. We expect
him to play tomorrow and be a guy that's ready
to go.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, that's good to hear. All right, So now.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
The focus in practice is getting ready for this Alabama
team that we pointed out comes in at number two.
They're twenty and three, nine and one in SEC play
and you know, they've got several big weapons.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
They're physical, they could shoot the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
They have a really dynamic offense as well. These are
you know, all weapons they've had and racing them out
to this league. So you know, what are the Longhorns
focusing on in practice ahead of facing this very fast
and physical Alabama team.

Speaker 8 (43:03):
I tell you, you know, in this league, every night
it's a physical battle coming to you, you know, and
you know you have to be willing to bring the
contact to your opponent because the opponent's gonna bring the
contact to you. In terms of trying to keep guys
off the glass. Another team with a you know, a
lot of height, a lot of size.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
They do a great job crashing.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
But they're probably the fastest team we played to this
point right now. So transition defense is gonna be really
big for us. We'll have to try to get back
get a defense set. They really score early early in
the possession that they're getting shot up pretty quick, you know,
whether it's for a layup or for scoring opportunity for three.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
They're they're about.

Speaker 8 (43:43):
Four the fastest team we played in that regard, So
we got to sprint back under your desk. It's gonna
be really important for us our defense set. Uh, and
it's gonna be you know, first down, first down possession.
You know you use first down in football, but you're
gonna have to get down and you're gonna have to
defend that first that first action of that first shot
immediately off the bat, and then you're gonna have to

(44:05):
try to keep them off the boards from a second opportunity,
a third opportunity's gonna be critical, boys, And then offensively,
what to come down to try to execute all is
and uh and challenge.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Him to go out us as well.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
One more from Rodney this hour, and we'll hear some
more from Rtie coming up next hour. This is a
question that came up at Pluckers and I can tell
you this, this question comes up every single time for
the head coach of a program that hasn't played at

(44:41):
the championship level that other programs on campus have. Sark
was asked about it when he was building things up
about you know, uh, how does he how does he
raise the bar on that Vic Shavers asked about when
he first came in to take over the Texas women's
program as well. And now with both of those program's
really really good, and softball number one, and then golf

(45:03):
and tennis and swimming and track and field as University
of Texas volleyball invariably is really really good every year.
Rodney was asked if the success of the other programs
on the forty acres put pressure on the basketball team
to raise the bar.

Speaker 8 (45:19):
Think, again, anytime you have success on this campus, you know,
we have elite coaches, We have at least todent athletes
on this campus, and I think there's now a program
on this campus is that that doesn't compete for a
national championships. So you know, that's the thing and a
unique opportunity about being at the University of Texas. Everyone
is pretty elite at what they do and how they

(45:41):
do it. So you're surrounded. You're surrounded by greatness every
day on this campus. And again, if that doesn't raise
your level in terms of you trying to be the
best that you could be in your craft, I don't
really know what else.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Because you're around highly.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Competitive individuals every day, that that that all the nation's
best to be the best. And uh, I think, uh,
obviously we support every program and we're we're excited when
when other programs on this campus went at a very
high level. We expect to try to win at that
same level as well. You know, we're competing in the

(46:16):
best league in the country. We're excited about it. Every
night we have a great opportunity. Uh, we've got an
incredible challenge coming in here tomorrow night against you know,
maybe the number one team in the in the country.
They should be number one, uh when they when when
we when we tip it up tomorrow night, and maybe
you know, we'll see we're at all kinds of stacks

(46:36):
and I don't know what that's gonna stack up, uh
over over the next hour or two, I don't know.
But but they're clearly one of the best teams we
played all year. So UH, we're excited about the challenge
and the opportunity, uh to play a team that uh
uh has they had as good a season as they
had to this point right now and again every night
and now in our lea, you have to bring your

(46:59):
a game.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
You have to bring your best game.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
There's not one team in his league and you could
come in and now I have to play at a
very high level.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah. It's a great answer, and it's an answer that
I've heard the other coaches say as well, the success
of the other programs on campus should not intimidate or
negatively effect the program that's trying to build to get
to that level. It should draw it strength from those programs.
I've heard Rodney say that, or Sark saying when he

(47:27):
was trying to build getting football built up, Vic Schaeffer
with women's basketball, Jim Schloasnegols was doing that, working on
that for long worn baseball. So same thing with men's basketball.
And Rodney tell you to tell you they don't shy
away from that at all. They think that that's a
great thing and they try to build off of that. Well,
they get a chance to make statement tomorrow night. It
is the number two team in the country. Auburn remained

(47:49):
number one in the poll that came out after this
morning's mediism there with Rodney Terry, Alabama is number two,
but they got the number two team in the country
coming into borrow night.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's an eight o'clock tip. You can hear it here
on thirteen.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Under the Zone as well as on ninety eight point
one Fmkvett coming away tonight as Texas will Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Night is Texas will take on Alabama.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
All right.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Coming up next, we're need you from Madison Booker and
a review of the Texas women's huge win over South Carolina.
When we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
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Speaker 1 (48:36):
Rolling through a Monday afternoon. I are on thirteen hundred
the Zone and we'll hear more from Rodney Terry coming
up next hour. Also some updated bracketology on the men's side,
we'll have that as well. On the women's side, the
latest projections at Texas has a number one seed and

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that was before the South Carolina game. So when it's
updated again this week, it'll be interesting to see if Texas,
you know, one would imagine would still be on the
rise with what they did with that win over South
Carolina yesterday.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Longhorn's winning that rematch.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Remember they lost last month in Colombia by seventeen points
and that game was out of reach by the end
of the first quarter. They just they didn't shoot the
ball well, shot twenty eight percent. Just couldn't match up
in that game. But yesterday. They certainly did. They were

(49:33):
very aggressive, took the fight to them. They never trailed
in the game. South Carolina tied it on six different occasions,
and they stayed within five points for the last fifteen
minutes of game time, but they couldn't get over the hump.
Texas was able to get enough stops and also hit

(49:56):
some key baskets. Kylo Oldacre really big now the stretch.
Thirteen point six rebounds for Kyla matched up with the
eleven points and six boards or seven boards from Taylor Jones.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
That was big.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
The combination of the bigs inside had a big effect
on the game. Cocks inside, and that's where the Longhorns
kind of showed the blueprint for how you have to
stay with and have a shot to beat a team
like South Carolina. But you have to have a singular
player who could have those big singular moments, and Madison
Booker certainly had that. Madison had the first game in Columbia,

(50:34):
went zero for nine to start the ball game and
wound up three for nineteen for the day. Really struggle.
It just didn't work in the first game. Some of
it South Carolina's defense and some of there were just
some flat out open looks that didn't fall. And so
that was part and parcel of our postgame conversation with Booker,
who had twenty points eleven rebounds, had a gigantic and

(50:55):
one down the stretch of the game yesterday, but every
time the Longhorn seemed to need a big basket either
Madison Booker Kyla Oldacre was able to provide it there
in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
So after the game we got a chance to visit.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
With the long Orange All American and talk about all
this Madison Booker, Madison Booker is gonna come over here
and join us now. And Maddy with the twenty points
to go with eleven rebounds to double double. I asked
coach about this again at the start, and you know,
the tough game in Columbia on back, tough game for
the team, tough game for you individually. How long did

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it take you to just shelve that and compartmentalize it.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I mean I.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
Would lie and said I forgot about the game, but
I think after you know, that game, just once I
got on the bus flight back home to Austin, I've
been thinking about this rematch since then, and just think
about how you know what I could have changed differently
during that game. And you know sometimes you know, I
sit back and think that dang, like I took so
many shots, like, but those are my shots, and and

(51:58):
you know I had to you know, just you know
talk just like talking about coaches and say, you know
me personally, I think like those are my shots, and
I keep taking my shots and they agree. I mean
I worked for my shots. I you know, like I
worked hard. But you know I took the same shots
today and you know, hey seven between two. But you
know the thing I think the difference was I did
more defense, I got rebound, I got steels. Just you know,

(52:20):
a couple of my team I went today, which was
really the difference maker from today and then South Carolina
last time.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I was gonna ask you what the difference was for
the team. It looked like team defense, you guys.

Speaker 9 (52:31):
Yes, he's been just he's been harping on that since
the the Obama game. Actually, uh, they have a great
point guards the Green over there, and you know our
game plan for her for them was you know, taking
away her space, team defense because you know, she's a
very hard player to stop. So I think, you know,
coming into this game, he you know, he just brought
up the example of the Bama game and how we

(52:52):
played great team defense, and I think, you know we
locked in, like on scout, we prepare it well. I
think we were, you know, after the venue win, we
were so hard to play.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
I'll put it again.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
I think, you know, those two days, I think we
just came in with our.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Hair on fire.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
All right, Hey, I enjoyed this one.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I appreciate you taking the time, appreciate thank you.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
She definitely went into that game, might say with her
hair on fire as well, But some of the best
players in college basketball find a way to get their
teammates involved in that. That's what she does, and that's
what ry Harmon does as well. It's part of what
makes this team as good, as solid, as dangerous as
they are. As I mentioned, the racketology had Texas as

(53:39):
a one seed. That was even before the game, had
them in Spokane, opening at home for the first two rounds,
playing against Eastern Illinois in automatic qualifier, and then the
face the winner of an eight nine matchup between Creighton
and Illinois. If they went on to Spokane, it would
have teams like usc Is a two Duke is a three,

(54:03):
Kentucky is a four, Maryland is a five. So all
of those we're on there now having one. Depending on
the type of week they have, they might be able
to play their way off of Spokane and into Birmingham,
depending because right now the bracketology has South Carolina and

(54:23):
in Birmingham, and Notre Dame in Birmingham, and the has
Texas and UCLA in Spokane. So we'll see how it
goes from there. You heard Dick Schaeffer I guess a
little over a week ago saying he bet his bottom
dollars that he would not get an opportunity to play
in Birmingham. He thinks they're going to send them west
like they've done several times in the past. But who knows,

(54:44):
maybe they can play their way into that going forward.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
All right, we have more coming up as we continue
here on this Monday afternoon on AM thirteen.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Under the zone book.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Kerk bounce past so the cutting Holly shows off the glass.
It's going to shee hit the deck hard, but she's
all right.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Shay gets the bucket.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Her first basket texts up by four twenty to sixteen
pop out drives into the pace shop rejected, Holly Jones, Booker,
take your pick. They were all there and the Longhorns
have it. Now two on two lead pass to agree
off the glass. It's good ten point long worn lead
at the midway mark of the second corner of the
fans on their feet. Rory still counting off the dribble

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full while a little closer. Now twelve seconds to go
first half harm and still on the dribble top of
the arm. So the right side picks up the dribble
now seven seconds off to win inside a bounce pass.
Pine old Acre in traffic turns for the drop step
the score off the glass does old Acre for the
right side trying to take press it off the dribble,
then lost the dribble picked up by old Acre. Pilot

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lead pass Madison Booker, book drive it to the hoop
and she.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Stars man sees back.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
What a drive to the hoop by Madison Booker and one.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Fagan to shoot a long free well off the glass
rebound Harmon. That's gonna do it now Goestumber two.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
South Carolina's fifty seven game FEC streak is over.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
The long Orangs win it.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
The final score Texas sixty six South Carolina sixty two.
Big day, big moment yesterday at Moody Center, in front
of a sellout crowd, great environment, great atmosphere there for
the Texas women's win over number two South Carolina sixty
six to sixty two. We begin the final hour of

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the program here on this Monday afternoon on thirteen under
the zone Craig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Somebody
had said that they hadn't seen too many men's basketball
environments to match the women's environment yesterday. I think it
is very similar. Once you get to sell a crowd

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in there and they're excited about the team, and the
team makes some plays, they're going to be really loud,
They're going to be really noisy. And Vick Shaffer likes
to say that he knows his audience, his quords, not
mine his words. What does he say, old hairs, blue hairs,
and gray hairs, as he likes to say. But there

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was there was a great combination of young and old families, singles, couples, whatever.
There were girl scouts in the arena, there were other organizations.
It was it was fun. It was it was a

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fun game and and quite an environment and a big
win for the Texas Longhorns as they won sixty six
to sixty two over South Carolina. What that win does
is it moves Texas into a tie for first place
on top of the SEC standings. The Longhorns have five
games remaining. They're ten and one. They're tied with South Carolina.

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They're tied with LSU, which won yesterday or Tennessee, and
they're tied in the lost column with Kentucky. If Kentucky
wins tonight over Ole Miss, then it's a four way
tie and Texas plays in Lexington at Kentucky, who is
up to number eight in the AP Pole. Texas is
up to number three after the win yesterday, just ahead

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of South Carolina, who is number four. Notre Dame, who
owns an overtime win over Texas and South Bend back
in December, is number two.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
At unbeaten UCLA is number one.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
So they play at number eight Kentucky on Thursday and
then come home to play LSU on Sunday afternoon. And
the Tigers obviously are one of the best teams in

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the country. They're number five in the country. They're twenty
five and one. Their only loss is to South Carolina.
It was the only meeting between those two, so they
played Texas Sunday afternoon at two o'clock. So two huge
games for the Texas women coming off that big game,
and a win for the Longhorns in either of those

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two games I think puts them in a better position
to wind up being a number one seed. In the
most recent racketology projections, they're listed as a one seed
and that was before the game yesterday with South Carolina,
so a lot to be excited about, especially with the
way this team responded. They never trailed in the game.
South Carolina was even with them six times, but the

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game Cotch never led and after the game, we visited
with head coach Vick Shaffer to talk about the importance
of this win and how well his team played in
beating one of the best, if not the best team
in the country. Nick, you mentioned to me before the
game what confidence you had in this team to be
able to flip.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
The script before?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
What gave you the confidence of what you've seen over
the past month with this group.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Well, a person, I'll have to tell you.

Speaker 10 (59:55):
When we walked off the floor in Columbia, Lena Lovado
looked at me and said, we will be them in
a fund.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
That's a god's honest truths. You claimed it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
And you know, just the evolution of this team. I
think at times they're really tough and it took a great,
gritty effort today to get that done against what I
think is the number one team in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And that's no slight to UCLA, but they're.

Speaker 10 (01:00:19):
So dang good and we had to have an incredible
effort today by our players too, you know, just to
to win. I mean, they're so good, they're so talented,
and so again I'm really proud of them. It's you know,
that's hard to do. And just the execution on the

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half court I thought was really good. I thought when
we called the time out, we kind of got ourselves
together a little bit and you know, we realized they
were going to come out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
They weren't gonna sit on their hands over there. But
I thought they got a regroup at that point.

Speaker 10 (01:00:54):
I think they still tied it, but we managed to
answer offense. Well, you got to score points against him.
You had to find ways to score and it's really hard.
Their defense is so good, so anyway I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
That's a great win. I'm so proud of our kids.
It's just hard to do, y'all.

Speaker 11 (01:01:15):
You have no idea, People have no idea what it
takes to compete at that level today against that team,
and I just couldn't be proud of our kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
You never lost the lead. They tied it six times,
but you never gave up the lead. Your team had
a response every time. What did you see in them
that they just refused to fall behind in this game?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I think our execution offensively was really good, you know.
I think when we had to have a bucket, Booker.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
Made a big shot or we got the ball inside.
You know, our bigs were really efficient today and effective.
We didn't quite go down there as much as I'd
like to, but they were still very efficient today and
again sixty four sixty two. I told them I wouldn't
rather I'd rotten that rather not have it any other way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
We got to have a stop, and.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
We got it.

Speaker 10 (01:02:04):
We got the stop, got the rebound, and then we
executed down the strap stretch and Rory makes two big
free throws.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
You also mentioned to me before the game you said
you weren't worried about Madison with the od for nine started.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Whatever you said she's fine. Yeah, she clearly was today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah, no question.

Speaker 10 (01:02:20):
She's the All American that obviously we lean on a lot,
and uh, you know, she knows I'm coming to her
come hell or high water, and uh you know, she
played extremely well today. And thought our bench played well.
You know, I just thought everybody really chipped in. But
it's a great team win. I know you don't feel
one hundred percent physical. That doesn't make you feel little

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better ever, right, Oh man, I tell you a game
like that watching your kids, I mean, as a coach, y'all,
this is why you get into it. To watch those
kids play today and put forth that effort, the chemistry,
the toughness that they took. I mean, this is why

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I do.

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
What I do.

Speaker 10 (01:03:03):
And this is there's so much gratification, satisfaction, appreciation. There's
just not enough words for this team and this group,
and they just they continue to work, man, And so
I'm I'm speechless after all that. I just don't know
what else to say about them because there's really not
enough superlatives. Like again, it takes an incredible effort today

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to win that game. Our crowd was spectacular. They were
so good and really made a difference, So I'm proud
of them. This is what you endis right, crowd against
a team, no question, it's it's part of building the program.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
It's not just players and wins and losses.

Speaker 10 (01:03:43):
It's it's your fan base, and uh, this is why
we do what we do and it's part of the process.
So really appreciate our fans in the atmosphere that they
provided because it was really really special for our players,
both both sets. I mean, it's just an incredible atmosphere. Hey, congratulations,
enjoy this one Vicon, Praise the Lord. Big win there

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for Texas. You have field one under the weather and
still Man's coach that team through all of that. Long
Worn's up to number three of the eight peop poles.
South Carolina right behind him, number four. LSU, who they
play on Sunday, is number five. Kentucky, who they play
in Lexington on Thursday night, is number eight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
So they also have three wins this season over top
ten ranked schools. So that's impressive to see. So all
of that very very important for Texas. We've talked quite
a bit about the Super Bowl. We'll talk more about
that coming up this hour. One thing I hadn't gotten

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to yet only because it's a part as we know,
it's a big part of Super Bowl weekend, and that's
the waste management Phoenix Open and in golf, So that's
my super Bowl. It's your super Bowl when they yeah, okay,

(01:05:02):
I started saving the cowboalties on it, so it's in
other words, it's been your super Bowl your entire life.
So tell everybody about Thomas Detrie, right, d tree six
hundred sixty five on Saturday, took the lead in the
final round and just kind of cruised in from there
to get the win.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Yeah, fantastic tournament of course, set up was phenomenal over
at what do they call it, TBC Scottsdale. You can
play it for like eight hundred dollars, so go ahead
and do that. But Thomas Dietrie, yeah, the Belgium who
played his college golf at Illinois, was college teammates with
Thomas Peachers, who was on a lift tour. By the way,

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Live Golf had a tournament this past weekend, but nobody
I think battreet boys are there, so hey that one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I'm sure you probably noticed that the Open Championship now
has given a pathway to the leader now in the
in the live golf standings to qualify for the Open Champion.
Let the top five get in.

Speaker 6 (01:06:02):
I want to be able to see some of those
good guys play on the tour and in some major championships.
But yeah, Thomas T. Tree thirty two years old. If
you follow golf, he's kind of a guy that you know,
he would be around and then Sunday would come and
then oh yeah, another bogie there just you know, birdie putt, Yeah,
would go away, completely different story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
This week.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
He had a phenomenal Saturday, phenomenal Sunday. It got down
to about a three stroke lead heading to the sixteenth,
Dtree misst a makeup a birdie put Daniel Berger, the
former Florida State seminal, made a lengthy birdie putt. You
know there's still you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, but hey,
three shot leading, that can happen. And then Peters or sorry,
Thomas Detree at the shot of the tournament on the sixteenth,

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he just saw Daniel Berger sail it long and Ifflib
had a nine iron and stuck it to like two
feet made the birdie putt. Made a huge birdie on
seventeen out of the bunker and then the exclamation point
on the eighteenth to get to twenty three under. It
was his tournament to win, kind of like the Philadelphia
Equals yesterday. The best golfer one uh this past weekend,
So congrats to him. Huge news. Jordan' speed tied for fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, encouraging.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Awesome to see Jordan, who didn't drive the ball as
great as he usually does yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
But what do you have a left handed putt through brush? Yeah,
on the on the eleventh, so you know, classic speed way, right,
you know. And the best part about you know, when
he hits it offline is like either you're gonna either
he's gonna have a great lie or the camera's gonna
cut to him and he's gonna be somewhere exotic. And
in this case, you know, he's under the trees, his
golf balls behind a bush. He's talking to the rules

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official for some help here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
Had to go left handed and put the ball out
of the brush because he could not grip his golf
club with the with the right hand because there was
there's shrubbery all over that impeding his golf swing or that.
So he puts it out and he's still you know,
a ways back out to the right. And the funny

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thing is he played yesterday with Maverickneeley and Michael Kim
and they're off to the side and Michael Kim said
the Maverick McNeeley, how funny would it be if speaks
makes a par here, because this would be a typical
speed par Jordan hit it to like ten feet makes
makes the par putt save as par.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
So we're seeing some speed magic back.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
I mean, he hadn't played golf in like six months,
had had a wrist injury that he reinjured last week
at Pebble Beach, but came back here look good. Exciting
for that. Scotty came out firing the front nine yesterday.
I had like a thirty one, thought, you know, oh,
is he gonna make a run in the back nine,
and then shot a forty. No, he shot a thirty
on the front nine and the forty one on the
back nine just completely fell apart. So what we'll see,

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you know, Scotty is coming off surgery as well. So
a fantastic week, fantastic golf tournament. And they're back this
week at the Genesis. But because of the of course,
the wildfires in California instead of playing at Rivier, they're
back at Tory Pines to South of course where they
just played.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Two weeks ago or three weeks ago Reinsurance Open.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
And no Tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
No Tiger.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
He just withdrew the day his mother passed away last week.
So of course, you know, very sad story there with
Tiger losing his mother. So no Tiger this week, but
hopefully we'll see the cat back on the course soon.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
All right, Up next we'll hear more from Long Woron's
men's basketball coach, Trotity Terry when we continue on AM
thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
And we're back to the Craigway Show. Have a message
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Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Coming off the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Chexas women's win yesterday and ahead of tomorrow night's game
for the Long Worn men against number two Alabama, a
really really good team of very well ballot lunch team,
well you know why listen to me talk about it.
We have more sound from Rodney Terry, the Long Warns

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head coach, and he has his own thoughts on things.
So the first thing was asked with regard to Alabama's
what really makes that Crimson tight offense so dynamic many
points a game.

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
I mean, you know, they put a lot of pressure
on you. They can come at you in ways. They've
got really good players. They got a really good coach
that does a great job, you know in terms of
you know that their identity as a team that plays
fast offensively, you know, and they've got a lot of lint.
They got guys that can shoot the basketball. They've got

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two starters back from last year.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
They played in the Final.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
Four with the third guy that was an impact player
for him. So they've got experience, They've got a little
bit of everything you need to be highly successful. I
think for us, you know, we've got to try to
play really hard defensive to get back you know, defensive
and sit down and guard. Like I said earlier, first
down defense is gonna be really important for us in
terms of getting back and handling the initial thrust of

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them pushing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
The ball so fast up the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
And the guy who can push the ball so fast
up the floor is the guy in the back court.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
He's the spark club.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
It's Mark Sears, who is also their leading scorer and
who averages eighteen points per game, along with three rebounds
and five assists, and Art was asked what makes seers
so difficult to deal with?

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
Well, I think anytime you.

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
Talk about those you know, those teams, you talk about Arburn,
they've got broom to mean the guy that was a
part of their team last year and the deep run
they had last year.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
You talk about.

Speaker 8 (01:11:41):
Series Final four guy, he's the guy that he's really
kind of the head of the snake, you know, he's
the guy that makes everything go. He's you know, one
of the leading scorers, I think the leading scorer in
our league nineteen points the game, almost twenty fourths the game.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
But he's more than that to their team. He's the
guy that's a floor general.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
He makes the right passes, makes the right reads, and
in big moments in games, he didn't have a problem
with taking over and trying to be the closing all right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
You know that this is a game where the longguage
could really use a guy like Kenda Weaver on the floor.
And of course Kendall's had that hip flexer issue. It's
kept him out for some time and it's indefinite as
to his return, So the question is, is there a
fault about Kendo Weaver possibly being in a position to
medically redshirt.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
No, I wish that was the case. That was the case,
we would have probably already done something like that already.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
He thought he'd already played too many non conference games
early in the season already.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
You know, we don't talk a lot about.

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
Missing him, but we do miss him a great deal,
especially at winning time. He's only played in one conference
game two minutes and in the second one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
But he's a difference making for you because he makes.

Speaker 8 (01:12:54):
A lot of winning plays and does a lot of
things that doesn't show up in the in the status sheet,
but he gives you a lot of women winning opportunities
on office and defense. So he's a he's a big
guy out of our lineup. We still don't have a
timetable for him to return. Just shit as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, and it's difficult because he's a guy that can
help generate offense. And Rodney was asked if he thinks
his team is still making smart decisions on offense.

Speaker 8 (01:13:22):
Basketball is a support that's full of adversity. No one's
gonna play. You can watch the NBA guys play, you know,
no one's gonna play a perfect game. You know they're
gonna be some bad There're gonna be some mistakes made.
Basketball is full of adversity. I said all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
I think it's the.

Speaker 8 (01:13:38):
Teams again that persevere through adversity that win games. No
one's gonna play a perfect game, no one's gonna coach
a perfect game, no one's gonna officiate a perfect game.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
But you have to be able to persevere through the
adversity that you face in games.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
You're gonna have some uncomfortable situations where you have to
try to be comfortable and work your way through it.
There's now one game we played this year in conference
play where we have have not been uncomfortable or we
haven't had to face adversity. Whether we win or lose,
you have to work your way through it. And the
team that finds themselves working themselves through the adversity in games,

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they win games. And so I think again for us,
just end the course, continue to work the game, execute
when we have to, execute on office when we have to,
and then we have to try to get consecutive stops
to try.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
To win games.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
This next question I found kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Someone had ask Rodney if he wanted Trey Johnson become
more aggressive and attacking the basket. Trade's been doing that
a lot of this season, and in fact, it was
a play, a critical moment in Saturday's game where he
did attack the basket, had a great.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Move, but the ball hung on the rim and fell off.
It didn't go in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Nevertheless, Roddy Terry asked if he once traded me more
aggressive attacking the basket.

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
You know, it's hard for me to officiate the game.
I know this kid, a kid is gonna have a
chance to play at the next level. And well he
has a miss. He's a pretty elite and he's a
high skilled guy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
He's not gonna miss a lot of those shots.

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
That's why he has the chance to be a professional
player here in the near future.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
You know, again, we can't make those calls.

Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
I think he does put pressure in the basket at times,
and I do think there are times that sometimes he's
not protected as much as he needs to be because
he's one of the premier players in this league.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
A lot of talkers, a lot of talk about this league,
the SEC, how balanced it is. You know, maybe you
can pull South Carolina out of it. They have yet
to win a conference game, although they played some teams close.
Everybody else has had their moments, and we know about

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the the twice weekly grind that happens in the SEC.
And Roddy was asked if the games in the SEC
in his estimation come down to a final run, because
that's what happened with Vanderbilt on Saturday. The Long Wrorans
were up ten with about fourteen minutes together. We're still

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up five with ten minutes to go, but Vanderbilt put
together a final run. Ole miss put together a late
run to beat Texas. The Longhorns had a huge second
half run to win on the road at LSU prior Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
So that brought about this question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Our games in this league decided by whichever team can
make that final run in a game.

Speaker 8 (01:16:39):
No, everybody's gonna everybody's gonna have those spales, Roger in
this league. No one's just gonna have a game where
they just fully spread out and stay fully out in
front of you the whole time. Uh, basketball is a
game of runs. And uh, you know, I'll tell our
guys all the time, how do you stop and run?
You stop and run?

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
With consecutive stops on defense.

Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
You know, how do you start a run. Youve got
to come down, execute, shut the ball, get the ball
moving side to side, attack on your terms.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
And and usually good things happen for you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
But but again, you you have to be to you
know again, buckle.

Speaker 8 (01:17:17):
Down, finish possessions. That's how you're able to stop runs.
And when you're on the road, you know you're gonna
have another runs coming. You know, home team's gonna continue
to continue to fight and keep coming at you. So
you know you have to be to put stops together.
And we we call them kills. You got to be
able to put some kills together where you have consecutive
stops throughout the course of the game. And you know

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that's how you stop runs. You have to put you
have to put some kills together. Yeah, very very important
there in this league.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Uh. There's one other question for Rodney Terry and it's
about it and quite often he gets asked about his
team's mindset in terms of their awareness of their surroundings.
And what I mean by that is their awareness of
what this SEC is all about and how difficult it is,

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and can they keep their head up when they take
some lumps, and do they recognize how good a league
this is. It's the number one league in the country,
and that there is still time. I mean, even if
you look at the bracketologyam we'll have one updated set
of We'll get to in a minute. But do they
realize that there is still time to do what they
have to do to land in the big Dance to

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get into the NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
Well, they definitely feel how good this league is. I
mean we've definitely felt that. I mean, this league is.
I don't know if I've ever had been a part
of a league there's been as ultracompetitive.

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
As this league is every night where you literally have.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
To coach every game like it's an NCAA tournament game.
You know, there are no possessions off in this league.
You know, no, you could have had seasons where in
conference play every possession is not going to coach game.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
But in this league, man, every possession is a big possession.

Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
In the margin of ara that you have in this
league is very, very slim, you know, in terms of
you know, whether it's a half, whether it's five minutes
in the game, whether it's four minutes in the game.
You know, it's tough. You can play thirty you can
play thirty two good minutes and not gonna win in
this league. You know, you can play, you know, thirty
good minutes in this league, really good basketball at a

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very very high level, and you got nothing to show
for it at the end of the day, because teams
are that good and they're they're that well coached in
this league. But I think for us, we've tried to
control we can control. We had a super competitive practice today.
We're still trying to continue to get better in the
areas that we have to be better in defensively, rebounding

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the basketball. I think we've done a decent job of
taking care of the basketball.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
At times.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
We've had had a couple issues there that that have
cost us a little bit from from ball security, But
for better point, we've done a pretty good job over
the course of games with ball security. Just gets down
to again, you know, trying to be the most competitive
team for forty minutes. You got to play the play
these games all the way to the bowl literally in
this league every night.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
So there's the thoughts there from Rodney Terry. We've got
some other college basketball notes to get to and some
pro basketball notes to get to when we continue here
on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
It's the Craig Way Show with the voice of the
Texas Longhorns and Hall of Vaine broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Before I jump to pro basketball, one more, let's get
you updated in college basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Jerry Palm is one.

Speaker 8 (01:20:53):
Of the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Rocketology experts that I did follow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
He's with CBS Sports and he had Texas as a
ten seed last week before the Vanderbilt lost. His racketological
prognostications are updated.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Let me ask you a question, Cameron, have you ever
been to Dayton, Ohio?

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
I have not, but I do know what's there. The
first four is there and what Jerry Palm has as
a pair of sixteen matchups Little Rock against American Nebraska,
Omaha as they just go buy Omaha against Merrimac.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Then he's got.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
A pair of twelves meeting San Diego State and Arkansas
playing away in a film and in a matchup which
I find very I doubt this matchup would happen, but
I understand how he does things with his seating.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
He's got a couple of elevens.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
He's got Texas in there against Georgia and the Long
Words are getting ready to play Georgia here coming up
in about ten days, I think a couple of weeks.
I doubt they would meet again in the first four,
but it is possible. There is a provision in the
NCAA term that it does allow teams from the same
conference to meet in the first four, so it is
possible that it could happen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
But he would have them in the first four. And Dayton,
I've done the first four for Westwood one before.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
It's really well run there, Dayton, As I said that
community wraps its arms around those two games on two
consecutive nights, much like Omaha does with the College World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
It's it's really well done.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Hopefully the Long Wrnes can stay in the field out
of the first four, but that's where Jerry Palm has
them right now. We'll see more as it goes a
little bit further.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
All Right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
The other thing that's happening to night. You planning to
watch Luca suit up for the Lakers tonight? I think
you have to. You kind of have to, right is
Lakers debut for Luka Dancic tonight and more has seeped
through of the past twenty four to forty eight hours

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about the machinations behind the scenes with this trade, and
that Mark Cuban apparently found out about it a little
late in the game, and of course he's not the
majority owner anymore, but he tried to talk Nico Harrison
and the others into not making the deal, but they
already had a handshake agreement done, handshake verbal. I think
it was the way it was described. So the deal

(01:23:25):
was done. And I think the thing that's disappointing is that,
however you feel about needing to make that trade, if
you're the Mavericke, that's one thing, but you don't have
to trash the number one fan favored on his way
out the door, and Nico Harrison had done a little

(01:23:46):
bit of that toward that end. Our good friend friend
for Shillem from a ESPN who knows the international game
very very well, had a long tweet.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Today about this. I'm gonna I'm going to give you
some of it here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
He says, I can't believe the new MAVs owner's trashing Luca.
I've been watching the kid since he was sixteen, and
I know some of the behind the scenes stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Here's some perspective take it or leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Number one, This comes from an all time NBA evaluator quote,
never ever ever trade a young superstar.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
They're too hard to find. You know who? That sounds
like HB.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Brown, a great Hub Brown who hung it up yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I retired age ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Number two, the guy killed himself playing year round for
two or three seasons, representing both the Mavericks and the
Slovenian national team.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
A few superstars in the league would do that. Three boy,
and this is spot on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
The Mavericks treated Jalen Brunson like a second round pick
right up to the time he signed with the Nicks.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Couldn't agree more with that. Number four, couldn't agree more
with this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
You will learn that Dallas is first, last, and always
a Dallas Cowboys town. Dirk made it cool to be
a MAVs fan. The people who pay for front row
seats wouldn't know a pick and roll from picking your nose,
but they came to games. Dirk gave us twenty years
and Luca was about to give us fifteen more. I
could not possibly agree with that more. And by the way,

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that also applies to some quote unquote long warn basketball fans.
He would not know what pick and roll from picking
their nose or picking roll from you know something they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
They just don't a lot of them. That's just how
that is not everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Something in damon on all long warn basketball fans, but
it is on some who don't really know some of
the stuff I've seen talking not necessarily about Rodny trit
just talking about the team and basketball that don't understand
a lot of the game. Number five Mark Stein good
writer had a great stat. The last time the Mavericks
played a game without Dirk or Luca was April nineteen

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ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
You weren't even one year old, and that you were
just a few months old.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
It wasn't that game also against the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Here's another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It may be a good trade in the short run
if Ad plays seventy plus games the next three seasons
and wins a title, that's doubtful.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Totally agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I mean, everybody got excited Ad had a good game
the other day, and now he's hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:26:18):
At least a month will be out God, and he
may require surgery. That would be season ending. All sides
to go down that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Route, and the people said the Mavericks knew about that too. Well, Yeah,
trading for ad it's you know, it's the same riskue
you're taking on Luca. If if you're worried about Luca's health,
then why aren't you worried about Anthony Davis's health?

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
True?

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Uh, never underestimate ego as a decision maker. There's now
basically nobody left from the Donnie Nelson era. I don't
think that's an all bad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
There were a lot of mistakes and mishaps that happened
during that Donnie Nelson era.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Future Hall of Famer is gone?

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Well, would he have traded Luca though?

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
No, No, would not have a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Future Hall of Famer is gone and a potential future
Hall of Famers with the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
And this this is as damning as anything.

Speaker 6 (01:27:13):
Can I can I push you back on that? So
Brunson was always gonna leave Dallas, Like, I don't. I
don't blame that so much. It's it's like those like
blaming R. C. Buford and Pop for Kawi Lee. If
Kai wanted to go back west, Jalen Brunson wanted to
go back east.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Well, and also I mean but they but they didn't
even make a competitive offer. Yeah, that's fair. That's you know,
that's that Maybe they knew he was gonna go back
East and therefore did not make a competitive offer. But
you could understand Mavericks fan for being upset with him
not making a competitive offer.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
Sure, but the Jileen Brunson that we see today, he
does not exist if he still plays in the Mavericks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
I do not think so.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
That would have been Lucas team. Brunson needed to go
to a team where he was the guy to be
able to sprout in becoming Jillen Brunson MV he contender
All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Then, in my opinion, that's fair. One other thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Lakers GM Rob Polinka made this statement last Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Quote it's a gift.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
We're talking about a twenty five year old that's a
top three player in the universe. End quote just we know, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
If just just a fair warning, like if you want
to for those who want to be a future GM,
if you make a deal in the opposing gender trading
with says it's a gift, probably means you lost to
trade just just saying just saying.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yeah, it's good, it's a good thought.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
All Right, We'll be back with a few final thoughts
coming up here on thirteen under the Zone