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May 12, 2025 • 103 mins
It's a busy Monday on The Craig Way Show! Craig and Cameron Parker discuss the NBA and NHL Playoffs. Hear from Jim Schlossnagle and Rylan Galvan after Texas Baseball dropped its second consecutive conference series to Florida. Texas Rowing coach Dave O'Neill joins the show as the Longhorns enter the postseason, as does Texas Women's Golf coach Laura Ianelo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My name is Craig Way. Thanks very much for joining us.
Appreciate that. And we're here each and every weekday afternoon,
Monday through Friday, two to five pm in some semblance like,
for example, you have me today and tomorrow, but then Wednesday,
I'm on the road to Norman, Oklahoma to get ready
for the final regular season series for the Longhorn baseball team,

(00:22):
which of course I'll be broadcasting Thursday night, Friday night,
Saturday afternoon. So the producer, who also is multi talented,
will be stepping in here as just as he's about
to step in here right now.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
His name is Cameron D. Parker.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
The deal on the birth certificate stands for Dallas, and
no it does not stand for the football team for
which he was named, the Dallas Cowboys. He's wearing a
Dallas Stars jersey. The Dallas Stars won Game three of
that series with the Winnipig at Game two and Game three,
Game three in Dallas, and so they have a two

(00:56):
games to one lead. And so you're adorned in did
we have the camera today?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay? Oh yeah, so people can see you in that.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
And that Kelly Green Dallas Stars jersey with the black
star and the silver and white numerology, silver on the
front and then the white numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
On the side.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
If I may be so bold to give a little
bit of uniform description there. Yeah, looks pretty good, and
I know you're pretty happy about.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I think I've had this since high school? Have you
really maybe five times in my life?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Did you used to wear it? Like in high school
in Charlotte, North Carolina?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, So, you know when I was in high school,
jerseys were in, so everyone would get jerseys, hockey jerseys,
especially for some reason in my high school.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
So as a Stars fan, so you.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Were surround about a lot of Carolina Hurricane fans, right.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, a good amount of Hurricane fans. You know in
North Carolina there's so many transplants, so we had a
lot of like Capital fans, Penguins fans from from all over.
But Crash are still around back then there, just had
moved to Winnipeg. Okay, did not see any Thrashers jerseys.
So you know, it was right after the Stars made
the trade for Tyler Sagan. You know, he was phenomenal

(02:04):
in Boston. Was super pumped for that trade. The Stars
were just getting good. So I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna go on eBay, I'm gonna find me a
hockey jersey because I did not have a hockey jersey,
and it's Sagan has stayed with the Stars since then,
so of course he's played great so far this series.
Jersey it has so you know, I thought, hey, you
know what, up to the one a huge win yesterday

(02:25):
on your home eyes, let's let's break out this jersey.
I mean, we are in a studio, so we're outdoors.
I don't think I can handle it because you know,
walking outside, I was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna be
sweating a little bit in this this thing. So but
you know, you like to cool in the studio, Craig,
So I thought, you know, I'm gonna feel nice and
cozy as we support the Dallas Stars.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
We do one.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
We do now. My team is up to games to one.
The Carolina Hurricanes they play tonight in Game four. The
critical they always critical, as they say, game four of
a best of seven series hosting the Washington Capitals. They
really need to the thing about the Canes is this,
They're perfect on their home ice.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
This year, road not so much.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I haven't done well on the road I think they've
only won one road game, so yeah, they need to
they need to take care of their business and and
protect their home eyes tonight. So anyway, yeah, we'll get
back to that. We'll certainly talk about that.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I feel like if we get a Hurricane Stars Stanley
Cup Final and we're getting ahead of my man a
little bit, I'm going we got to figure out a
way to get up there and maybe got a friend
Tom McKay, who is a Star's season ticket holder.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Maybe we can figure out some way to get up
with Tom and meet up.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And that's kind of still on a bucket listing for
me is to go to a Stanley Cup finals game.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I've not.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I've been to all the other major pro sports and
by all the other major I uh have been obviously.
I've been to two Super Bowls. I've been to last
year NBA Finals Game four Maverick Celtics Lyndon, and I
went for that. I've been to one two, three World Series.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is it? Three World Cheries? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Three counting the Rangers Cardinals in twenty eleven. Three World Cheries.
So been to those. I actually broadcast World Cup Soccer
games from the Cotton Bowl in Dallas didn't I Jerry
in Bulgaria, so yes, I had Kafour marking Resta Stouschkoff
had that also didn't I Argentina Bulgaria and an incredible

(04:28):
quarterfinal between Brazil and the Netherlands Brazil Holland, great three
to two match in the Cotton Bowl. But I've never
been to a Stanley Cup five. I've been to a
NASCAR events. I haven't been to Daytona. But I was
a season ticket holder for Texas Motor Speedway for a while.
So anyway, there's all of that. Okay, let me tell
you what else we got coming up in a little bit.

(04:50):
We're gonna visit with Dave O'Neil. Dave O'Neil the head
coach of Texas Rowing, which won the SEC championship yesterday.
They're doing a tower lighting ceremony tonight. They're going for
their third national championship, or their fourth in five years.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
So we're going to visit with Dave O'Neil. Coming up
in the two o'clock hour.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
We do obviously have audio following the Longhorns loss to
the Florida Gator session. We're about to play some up
for you right now. We're gonna hear from Jim Slastnegle
coming up to the three o'clock hour. We have inconceivable this
hour four o'clock hour. Laura Annello, an l of the
head golf coach for Texas Women's go off. They're getting
ready for Nationals. We're going to visit with her. So

(05:30):
we've got a lot of things to get to on
the program. Let's start right off now. The Longhorns, of course,
dropped that game to Florida yesterday four to one. They
begin this final week of the regular season where they
began last week, and that was with a two game
lead in Arkansas. Because Arkansas dropped two out of three
at LSU. Texas has also dropped from number one number

(05:51):
three in the nation in the baseball in the D
one Baseball dot Com rings, I think at number six
in the Baseball America rankings. We'll go through all of
that kind of stuff right now. It's about the Lords
trying to get it turned around, get more competitive bats,
get more production. Rylean Galban was asked about them when
he was discussing it there.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Just you know, address the other f in the room.
You know, there's embarrassing, is what it is. Got to
attack the upcoming week. You know, we had a chance
to to clinch es SEC championship and obviously didn't get
it done and didn't play to a standard we wanted to.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
And yeah, as a leader on this team, and you
did by Examplelod, but you're also a supposed man. What
do you say to your your teammates to get this
thing back turned around, especially with us so much on.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
The lot of this next weekend? Yeah, I think we
just there's gotta be a different.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Level of doubting, especially this.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
This upcoming week. We just gotta go all in on everything. Uh.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Don't let any area.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Of our game, whether that be on the field, off
the field, Uh, in the weight room, nutrition, hydration, don't
let anything slip to where those are things that we'll
come back.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And and.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
We'll lead you down the road that be and lock
down a path that we can't recover from.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So just gotta take care of things like that. Is
less of the sound of deep or problems the series.
Were you done them more than just two losst drives?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
No too too. Why do you think the authors has
had its struggles so last to last few.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Puppets Hills, I think just uh, obviously we'll see what's
going on in and the lack of being able to
uh make cooker adjustments just felt like the compete level
at times in that bats just wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But uh, that's pretty much. Would you be surprised if
the team doesn't respond the way that you're hoping? If
we don't?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, Like, would you be surprised if if the team
doesn't respond?

Speaker 4 (08:12):
And yeah, like if if we don't show up this
upcoming week and take care of the small things and
and get out to practice and and are flying around
and doing everything we possibly can, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Be super surprised.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean that would not only show that uh guys
who don't care, but it just obviously doesn't mean anything
to Ryland.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Did the players initiate the meeting afterwards? Or was that
a schloss thing? Uh cause it was close tis kind
of everybody.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, players spoke uh coaching players, I mean which players?
Yuh we had our own players, uh little leadership meeting
after me and Jalen Kimball Cherry Blue.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Is there everything that y'all already accomplish?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it's it's you.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
You guys are gonna be y y'all you guys know
that you're gonna be playing at home as long as
you're playing until otter home.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, is that is there?

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Is there maybe some complacency of that over the last
couple of weekends if I'd been causing some of the
issues kind of fail maybe a feeling around the team
that we've already wrapped up. Uh, we can wrap up
in the tournament until you.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Know, Yeah, maybe maybe not.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I don't know. Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I feel like we do a tremendous job of uh
showing up every day. I know we work harder than
anybody in the country. Uh, there's no doubt that that
we don't put the work in. If we didn't, then
that'd be a whole different conversation, no different issue. But
we show up with a with an a opening game mentality.

(09:48):
But yeah, I guess some games just just mean more
and uh not too sure Uh admitting exactly that.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
I mean, you got these as a as a leader,
how do you, I guess, translate the frustration and communicate
that frustration to a way where the team can receive
it and respond to.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
The Yeah, I understand that, Uh, you know, we need
to feel this.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Uh, you need to feel bad about it, But at
the same time, not let you've not let it bring
you down. Uh, you just have to call a spade
a spade, not shy away from it.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
What we did out there.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Was it was terrible, uh unacceptable, But look at it,
look at it in the face, face it and and
move on it.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then you need to bring you down.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Didn't need to tense you up or add any extra pressure,
but just at the end of the day, take responsibilities
of it, own it and move forward.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
You guys, You guys have had other losses this season wise,
this one so heady and I mean obvious.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, obviously we had an opportunity to clinch an SEC
championship at home on Mother's Day, Senior Night, whatever, like,
in front of our own fans that have showed up
all year and supported us. But obviously we're gonna have
to go do it in Norman.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So, how good was King the picture for Florida today?
The starter?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I mean, regardless of how good he was, I mean, yeah,
he was good.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I mean he was painting.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Fasketball on the outer half, mixing into the the change
up or the split. And but regardless of how good
he is, I mean just felt like from the second
inning or first sting to the seventh. Just the level

(11:45):
of compete and just the demeanor in the box. I mean,
last secens were good, but just uh just didn't look
the same.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
There.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It is the thoughts from Ryland Galvin, longhorn catcher and
one of the team leaders. Certain so it stands as
symbol as this long Wrns are up two games on
Arkansas with three to play.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
They're up three on LSU.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
If the log Worns win one game in Norman, or
if Arkansas should lose one game at home to Tennessee,
Texas would have at the very least a share of
the SEC championship. If Texas wins two games in Norman,
or if they win one and Arkansas drops a game
or two games at home, then Texas could win it outright.

(12:31):
There's even a mathematical possibility of a three way tie
between Texas, Arkansas, and LSU.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
That would have to include Lshue sweeping.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
South Carolina in Columbia, which many feel certainly is a
realistic possibility. So we'll see how all of that shakes down,
and we'll talk more about that as the week progresses,
and we're going to hear from Jim Schlastnigle next hour.
We also have Inconceivable coming up later this hour, but
up next we visit with Dave O'Neill, Texas rowing coach.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
When we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
It's The craig Way Show with the voice of the
Texas Longhorns and Hall of Fame broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Darrel the Monday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
As just talking about coming off the baseball weekend for
the University of Texas and there's a lot of stuff happening,
men's golf, taking part in the NCAA's women's golf and
the we'll advance to the national Championships in Carlsbad, California.
We're going to visit with head coach Laura Anello coming
up at the four o'clock hour to talk about that,

(13:39):
so we'll we'll have that. And there is a tower
lighting ceremony tonight for Texas rolling and why not. They
won the SEC championship in their first year. You know,
it's becoming a great theme for UT athletics is the
words and I put it in quotation in their first

(14:01):
year of competition in the Southeastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Dot dot dot. You know, whatever Texas wins A conference championship. Well.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Add rowing to that, Texas Rowing winning the twenty twenty
five NCAA championship. In all, really it's their tenth straight
conference title, but of course their first ever SEC championship,
and at the helm of it always is head coach
Dave O'Neill, who joins us. Now, you know, I know
it never gets old winning championships, but that that moniker

(14:31):
Dave about it just means more than might it mean
a little bit more since it's the first go around
in the SEC.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Being the SEC championship
definitely felt a little bit different, you know. And also
we were this was the hardest we had to go.
We were this is the toughest test yet Tennessee. They
won a few events and we had to come back
and had an epic race in the varsity eight finals.
So yeah, being the first SEC championship and having to

(15:01):
really be challenged the most that we've had in the
last few years, it means a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, you brought up the first farsity eight boat.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I've got to get you to talk about it because
I saw that and it was it was just kind
of breathtaking to watch that and you talk about having
to empty the tank with Tennessee jumping out to the league.
What what were your observations when you were watching that
happen and watching your group bring you from behind to
win that one.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, well you've seen you've probably seen more of it
than I have. That's start. I could only see the
first thousand meters.

Speaker 10 (15:33):
I was on the bike, the bike path right alongside
and uh, you know, right up close.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And then Tennessee got nearly at length.

Speaker 10 (15:40):
I'm like, oh, come on, guys, come on, and thankfully
we stopped the momentum. And we always talked about being
a strong second half team, you know, and we're talking
about going to full two thousand meters and as long
as but we had a very very young crew and
it's like, hey, just stay cool, stay calm, do our thing.
It's all about Texas. Don't worry about don't worry if

(16:02):
you're a little bit behind. But put it in football terms,
sort of, we were sort of down two touchdowns at
the halfway, you know, and uh, but then when they
started to move, I'm like, all right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
They're they're coming back.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
And then the bike path takes a detour and so
I couldn't see the next eight hundred meters or so.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Wow. And then I pull around and I'm like, oh,
they got to lead. They did it. Oh my goodness,
that's great. So I'm looking forward to watching the replay
on the SEC Network later tonight.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
Yeah, that's when they when they when they started moving,
I'm like, okay, we're always like the best thing, you know,
get momentum on your side, especially when it's hurting the
most in that third five hundred meters and uh, yeah,
they did it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
It was exactly to plan.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I wanted to give you a chance to brag on
your stern three on shoeholderness and Emmy Gray and Marge
Vanderwald and.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
What they did.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And because I saw a quote from you where you
talked about how composed they had to remain, how calm
they have when things weren't going well at first.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah. Yeah, because it's easy to panic.

Speaker 10 (17:00):
It's easy to get outside youself and try to do
something crazy and do something different.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
We used to.

Speaker 10 (17:05):
Uh but coming out, you know, see him on the
dock and Mark's like, Sue was like, just said that
was exactly like practice, Like awesome, she said. The first
ten strokes. You can go according to plan, but we
just stayed cool, stayed calm, you know. And this was
Emmy's first race. You know, Emmy's just a freshman in
her first time in the stern pair, and the Stern
pair they sort of set the tone for the rest
of the boat. There's sort of like the point guards,

(17:26):
the quarterbacks, you know. So Emmy, you know, and she
wrote like a total pro and Mark is just so
strong and so powerful. So they said a really good
rhythm for you know, someone like mag to just really
go after it. And yeah, things came to things came
together the way we had hoped well.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
In addition to Sue and Amy and Mark your Cox
and Amy Warner also, I know you were you were
proud of for what she did in that situation.

Speaker 10 (17:50):
Yeah, because this is this is her first year coxing
the top boat, and she's just gotten better and better.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And you know, she is the smallest person on the team.

Speaker 10 (17:59):
You know, there's there's some giants on our team that
she's you know tiny, uh, but she has a big,
strong presence and uh and she has a really positive
spirit about her, I think, and I could hear her
in that first half, you know, and uh. And we
talked about the ability to take a punch, you know,
take a punch and then deliver a punch, you know,
and uh and I heard her say something about like, hey,

(18:20):
we just took a punch. That's okay, we can we
can respond. We're going to respond. Well, we're going to
respond in the second half. So she kept them together
and then they went after it and you know, got
the job done.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
You got your first victory of the day, and it
looked pretty convincing with what you did in the win
over Tennessee and the second Varsity four on that How
important is it to get that first one in the
books because I know, you know, your third Varsity eight
had a runner up in the second race of the morning,
and they had that runner up in the third Varsity

(18:51):
four that was very close. Finally able to break through
and get the first win of the day. How important
was that for setting the tone for the rest.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Of the day.

Speaker 10 (18:58):
It was very very And I think I jinxed I
think I jinxed us earlier in the week when I
said that at the previous nine championships that we'd had
in the Big twelve, uh, you know, the six events
we hadn't lost the race. We went fifty four and oh,
you know, so then we were lost those first two.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like, oh, why did I bring that up?

Speaker 10 (19:17):
Like, because we don't really talk about winning that much.
We just thought about going fast. I'm like, oh, why
did I say that? You know, And and all of
our boats were on the water at that time, but
they could see that, you know, the boats that were
still warming up getting ready, they could see that the
second four getting the lead, and you know, we could
we could tell that the momentum got he started getting
on our get on our side. So winning those those

(19:39):
two four events, uh took the lead on points and
then you know, and then the.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Hard fought second eight. So but but that we should
but and they came down to the first eight race
and that's the way it should be. And uh, the
winner of that first eight determined the championship.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Visiting with Dave O'Neil, Texas rowing coach as they win
their tenth consecutive conference championship when we talked about it
being a little bit different obviously with the SEC. Let
me ask you this now, as you get ready and
you're looking for your fourth national championship in the past
five years. Does being pushed the way your group was
pushed in the secs do you think that helps for

(20:17):
when you got to Mercer Lake in New Jersey.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
Yeah, great question, absolutely, absolutely, especially because now the schedule
was a little bit different this year. We have three
weeks before the NCAA Championships. It's usually two weeks, so
we can definitely recover and we can have a little
really good training block in this next you know, this
next ten days will train really hard. But most importantly,
you know, there's three freshmen in our top boat and

(20:39):
it's a very you know, young crew all around, and
the theme for this entire spring has been how can
we accelerate their athletic maturity?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know?

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Sometimes he was like, oh, the best thing about freshmen
is they become sophomores. But they're they're doing great, you know,
so I think them being tested like that and then
coming through we said, like that was that was like
worth two years experience right there. So yeah, we feel
pretty good head heading into Dance Hit Championships.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
You used to like the tower lighting thing you're going
over there, We've got that thing. Right around the eight
thirty I had the photo gonna happen around eight to fifty.
You still you know, you still like doing that tower
lighting photo.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
It's a it's a you know, wonderful tradition here at
University of Texas and that never gets.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Old for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (21:26):
And it's gonna be the first time for a number
one on the team, So it's always special.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's always it's always wonderful.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
All right, Now, I got to ask you about There's
two things I want to ask you about. One for
folks who don't know this, And we're used to watching
selection Sunday for college basketball, and we're used to watching
now the college football playoff selection showing that last day.
Last night softball had its selection show and solid we're

(21:53):
a number six national Sea Baseball. We'll have it on
a Memorial Day at eleven o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Folks may not know this.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
There is a a NCAA Division one women's rowing selection
show and it comes up a week from tomorrow night
at NCAA dot Com.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, the team gather around to watch that.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
Good question, No, we probably won't, ye know, it's always
it always happens right during talktive time and they're like, no,
we were good and we know we're gonna get invited,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
We don't. We try not to get too hyped up
for that stuff. So we know what we know. We're
going to the NCAA Championships, and you know, we'll be curious, like.

Speaker 10 (22:26):
What I re seated. But no, it's sort of business
as usual. I guess we let we say those big
celebrations for a Yeah when we win.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
All right, So now, but the last thing I want
to ask you is about Mercer Lake or Lake Mercer
whatever in West windsor New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
How much do you know about it? Have you been
up there contested up there before?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
You have me at the advance disadvantage here, I'm not
sure about how many times that place has hosted before.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
How familiar are you with this, with this venue for
the NCAA's great question.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
I'm very familiar with it where the national team practices
and uh, the NCAA Championships has been there at least
three times. Okay, and you know the last time, in fact,
the first time Texas that we came home came home
with the trophy or you know, back in twenty seventeen. Yeah,
that's the last time they hosted and uh that was

(23:19):
a big that was a big race for us.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
So yeah, I'm I'm very familiar with it.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
I think a few people on the team they've they've
probably raced there before. And yeah, it's a it's a
good spot. It's it's just right outside Princeton. It's gonna,
it's gonna and they host a number of events. They'll
they'll do a good job.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So here here's an uneducated question, but I'll put it
to you anyway. You know, when in the in the
realm of basketball, a lot of times teams will be
asked if an NC tournament venue is different for them,
if they're shooting in a dome because of depth perception
instead of a true basketball arena.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
So uh so the.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Uneducated question is how different is this like this course?
Does it provide different types of challenges? Say then, you know,
even Ladybird Lake or or Walter Long or or some
of the other places where you've had the team compete.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, great, great question.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
Uh yeah, every every course is different, you know, with
the elements and the wind direction and sometimes landmarks on
the water, the warm up, the traffic pattern for warm ups,
and the docking situation, you know where our team tens
are going to be. Every course is a little bit different,
and you know this at Mercer, it's all going to
be fine.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know, we'll get there and.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
We'll within within twenty four hours it's going to feel
like home. And that's one of the big things when
once we get there, like set up camp, you know,
get used to the course, you know, understand the landmarks,
you know, and we always say, like, you know, the
first three times on the course, they'll get used to
the environment and they'll be they'll be fully prepared. So yeah,
this might not be the same as being in a dome.

(24:55):
But but then but then we say, when we're on
the course, when we're racing, just we're focused on blade
tip to blade tip.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Just focus on us. Yeah, so every place is a
little bit different, but they'll get used to it and
it's going.

Speaker 10 (25:06):
To be fine.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It'll be May thirtieth through June first and Mercer Lake,
West Windsor, New Jersey the Loghorns looking for the fourth
NCAA championship in the past five years. They win the
SEC title and the tower lighting ceremony tonight over at
the ut Tower there at eight thirty David, it's always
great to visit with you, and continued success and we'll
visit again soon.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
All right, thanks very much. All right, you hook him.
That is Dave O'Neil.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
What a great job he's done, a fabulous job as
head coach of Texas. They've they've won three national titles
and they'll be going for a fourth and five years fairs.
He mentioned not far from Princes kind of between Trenton
and Princeton, New Jersey there West windsor New Jersey in
Mercer Lake. So best of luck to Texas rowing SEC

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champions And as I mentioned, in the four o'clock hour,
we'll talk about another Texas team that's excelling, and that's
women's golf getting ready for the NCAA Championships in Carlsbad, California.
Lorionella will join us in that four o'clock hour and
we'll do that up next. We have Inconceivable for a

(26:12):
Monday afternoon. I'm thirteen under the Zone for second hour
of the program. Here on thirteen under the Zone, Craig
Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker. We hit on a
lot of topics in the first hour of the program
in HL Stanley Cup Finals, I mean the second round playoff,
Dallas Stars taking a two to one seriously, and congratulations
to the Texas Stars who finished off Grand Rapids over

(26:34):
the weekend and now they play the Milwaukee Admirals. Have
you ever seen the Milwaukee Admirals logo. It's a jolly
Roger with a skeleton head.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, that whole thing's pretty cool. So there was
what like nine days in between games because of.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
What graduations and stuff like that going on there in
Grand Rapids and then getting back to Cedar Park to
do it. So anyway, the Texas Stars moving on. Dallas
Stars are up two games to one. So we talked
a little bit about that Longhorn Baseball on the series

(27:06):
lost to Florida and what it means. We'll get into
more detail on that. We're gonna hear from Jim Slastnigle
coming up in the next segment. So we'll do that
and update to you on the college baseball polls and
those kinds of things and the speculative things about about
the team.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
So we'll do that four o'clock hour.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Like I said, we've got some other topics that we'll
get to and we'll talk some Texas Golf. Laura and Ello,
the head coach for Texas Women's golf. They're headed for nationals.
We had a great chat with Dave O'Neil, the rowing coach.
They won the SEC championship and they're going for the
fourth national championship for five years. There's a tower lighting
ceremony tonight on the UT campus, so there's a lot

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to get to on that. But one question we put
up as a result of naming all those new flavors
and restored flavors that Dairy Queen is doing for its
blizzards is, uh, do you have a favorite blizzard flavor?
And I mentioned that mine was kind of a mashup
thing that I just kind of accidentally walked into way

(28:09):
out west in Alpine, Texas, where it was bananas, strawberries
and pieces of Vienna fingers and uh, with the vanilla
soft serve, it was really really good. So that's that's
kind of been my favorite. I've always liked kind of
like the Hawaiian one with a coconut and pineapple. That's
kind of stuff stuff. And I I like Reese's Pieces,
I like heath Bar I like those kinds of things

(28:30):
as well, and so Cameron said his favorite was either
going to be you said you either said what cookie
cookie dough or Reese's or cookies and cream, cookies and cream,
or well had somebody on the text and say Riese's
and cookie dough combined. So if you're a fan of

(28:51):
cookie dough, there you go. Because I like the Reese's
pieces too. I'm not as big into the cookie dough,
but I don't mind him, but that that that mixing
bowl mash up things sounds pretty good.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know, I am old enough.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't do you ever see these things that are
on like Facebook that's like name an apparatus or name
something that was commonplace when you were a kid that
nobody would even know what it is today. There's things
like that, and there's all kinds of jokes on Facebook
with kids staring at a payphone outside somewhere and say,
looking at this foreign advice, things like that. One thing

(29:30):
that kids used to do when I was of a
kid's age was when mom would make the cake, you
get to lick the ball. That's probably less commonplace now.
I mean, I know people still make cakes obviously, but
the licking the ball with the spoon or your finger
or whatever is probably not as commonplace as it used

(29:51):
to be. But that's where the phrase about mixing bowl
came from. Off of that, somebody else offers heath bar.
Like I said, I really dig heath bars. That's good
as well. So if you have a Blizzard flavor that's
your favorite, off of that, you know, uh, you even
let us know on the text line text the word

(30:11):
texas followed by that Blizzard flavor of yours to eight
one five three zero.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and data
rates may apply.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
They still do this. What when you go through a
dairy queen? They still turn the thing upside down? Right,
I think so supposed to be more than me. Right,
you're supposed to it. Well, I haven't had one in
a while. Linda and I had one, mm hm three
four months ago. Maybe I don't know the one in Georgetown,
so yeah, you know where they turn it over and

(30:42):
just to show you that's really turn it back over.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I never really got it, but I was like, Okay,
this is cool. Now give you my Blizzard. Yeah, you
have to show me you can. I'm gonna eat it
either way.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm gonna eat it. It doesn't it can be runny.
It doesn't. You can fall out. I'm still gonna it.
It doesn't have to.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Okay, all right, Okay, So NBA Playoffs continue, you have
to feel even better. You're Oklahoma City Thunder, Oh, no doubt.
Now really starting to take command of the series with
the Denver Nuggets with their win yesterday.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh, I don't know what command, Craig. I'll tell you
what though.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yesterday was a gut check performance because I texted my
buddy when it was down by eight points. Are down
by seven points in the fourth quarter. It looked like, man,
this this whole thing could unravel. And now you're going
into the offseason. If okay See loses this game, what
happens to this dynasty? What do you do this summer?

(31:39):
After setting so many records during the regular season, having
the highest point differential in NBA history, back to back
one seeds, and once again you can't get out of
the second round. It's the questions now the Cleveland Cavaliers
are going to have, but they can't come back from
three to one. I think you know, both teams yesterday entered.
I think Cleveland in OKAC with must win games for

(32:02):
their shot at winning an NBA title, and oka See
cutted it out. After another close loss in Game three
that they led for most of the game gotten the
overtimes completely fell apart. Now you're in Game four on
the road down to one, you're trailing by by seven points.
Nothing's going your way, and oka See rally and the two.

(32:24):
What really stood out Craig was Okac's defense, especially on Yokish,
because you look at the two stars in this series
who are going to be one and two in the
MVP voting ballot when it comes out, Jokic and Sga.
They aren't playing great. They're not playing to their regular
season standard. And the reason why is because both these
teams have great game plans defensively. For how they're defending Shade,

(32:46):
how they're defending Yokish. I mean, it's been incredible to
watch how these two teams have defended them. I mean
they're throwing Okay, he's been throwing all kinds of stuff
at Jokic. Denver's doing everything in its ability to get
the ball out of shape his hand. I mean, last night,
Jokic seven to twenty two. You know, he wasn't super
efficient in the big number two Correg three assists. I mean,

(33:08):
we're used to having seen Yokich with thirteen assists, but
credit OKC for their double teaming. And same thing for Denver.
I mean shay O five from three point line, eight
to nineteen overall, you know, twenty five points.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
He had some huge buckets on the stretch.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
But you know what really was the biggest difference, Craig
is you know these two teams, the Hut the Paul
so so poorly in this game, and you know they've
they've only had one day of rest in between each games,
and you could tell that these teas two teams were gas.
I mean, Chet Holmgren was interviewed I think in between
the first and second quarter by Hori Saddana and ESPN selecasts,
and he was like, hey, you know, what do you

(33:44):
make for the for the tough stretch, because I think
both teams combined for like I don't know, two three
three pointers in the first quarter it was seventeen to eight,
which is incredible at the first quarter. We're used to
seventeen points being scored in the first minute right in
the regular season.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
But Chet said, hey, this is basically a back to back.
We played.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
We played Friday night overtime game, and we had less
than a day and a half before this game tipped off,
and you saw both these teams struggled combined for what
twenty one to three pointers well, which is super low.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
So he shot thirty five percent from the floor, Denver
thirty one percent. Okay, see never both combining for twenty
four percent. And free throws too. Both teams were missing
three throws down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
So he shot seventy six percent, Denver shot seventy two percent.
So this really came down with Craig to all right,
if you're gonna win this game, you're gonna have to
grind it out. And it was kind of a you know,
a grow up moment for okay see. And you know,
we talked about it last week after they lost Game
one and came back from Game two. You know, they
played in the fewest amount of clutch games in the
regular season. I think when you played in like twenty

(34:43):
one or twenty four, the fewest because they were blowing
so many teams out. And I thought you kind of
saw that and how they closed out Game one and
even kind of in Game three, but for Game four
to get that win, you know, kind of just like
Game two to be able to come out and just
blow them out, and same thing would game four to
be able to come from behind hold off Denver on
the road, but play at such a high level defensively

(35:05):
is what really stood out. So I'm hopeful that Okay,
you know, you've had these these two wins. Now can
you build yourself into a champion? You still got to
win Game five at home. Got to do that, and
then you're up three to two, and you feel better
with you know, one game at least at home to
clinch the series. In for Cleveland, Craig, it's the opposite

(35:26):
because now you're sharing it yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Down three to one.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, you know you've had injuries, right, you lost three
starters in game two, a game that if you inbound
the ball correctly, it's one one and it could be,
you know, two to two, but hey it's three to one.
And you can see how tired donthan Mitchell was. I mean,
he's you know, he averaged he was averaging went forty
one points per game through the first three games. Yeah,
in the Semis, an absolutely absurd stat and then he

(35:51):
just kind of saw his bodies begin the breakdown, right,
you know, you missed the second half, and I think
a lot of that was just like, hey, doesn't have it,
here's his injury. We're down by forty points at halftime.
There there's no We're not going to come back. Let's
just rest them and get ready for a must win
Game five at home. But you know, Cleveland in this
spot is super scary. And you know even in Boston, right,

(36:12):
you know Game four now, I would say between Boston
and New York, got a little bit more pressure on
New York to win this game. We talked about last
week with how Chuck and Shacks said, Hey, you're up
to nothing. You want to win Game three because now
if you lose Game three, there's a chance that you're
going back to Boston. The series is tied up two
and two, so you know, New York has a pressure
on themselves tonight in that game. But man, it's just

(36:33):
been a grinded out NBA Playoffs so far. It's been
so much fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I think in the next case, they need to win
so they can still have at least with two thirds
of the series in the books, they could still have
home court edge, yes, because they would be up three
to one going back to Boston, and even if the
Celtics won on their own home floor, which they didn't
do in Game one and two, but if they did
pull back to win three to two, you still have

(36:57):
a chance to finish it on your home floor.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's where that's where it comes in.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
And and in the plain and simple truth about Boston
is all the things they did wrong, or the vast
majority of the things they did wrong in games one
and two, they did right in Game three. I mean,
they hit outside shots, they defended well, they made it
difficult for the Knicks to defend them.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
All the stuff that.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Carried them all season long when they were, you know,
looking like the defending champions and meeting everybody, and that's
what they did the other day that they did not do,
strangely enough, on their own home floor in games one
and two.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
So sometimes it's really simple, Craig. You know, it's like, like,
how how is Boston down to nothing?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Well, they're a team that takes a lot of three pointers,
and in games one and two they didn't make any
three pointers. But in Game three they did and they
blew them out. And also, you know, they've led by
double digits in games one, two, and three. It's interesting, Craig,
you know, the Boston New York series and the OKC
Denver series have kind of mirrored itself, and that you know,
Boston has led for so much in three games yet

(37:59):
are down two to one. And the same thing with
ok SE. Right, you know, they had led for I
thought the number was like seventy to two percent of
game time through three games, and we're down two to one,
and then of course they won yesterday them even it
up at two and two, and again Denver didn't lead
in that game until like the third quarter, right, and
they were still they've still come back, but then okay,

(38:20):
see closed it down. So we had these two series here,
and obviously Boston's won a championship and they're more battle
tests than OKAC has been since. Okay, he's not even
the playoffs for two years. But I have two series
where the team that's been winning most of the of
the games or most of the game time actually is
down in the series. So for Boston, you know, I
do feel like if they can win tonight, they will

(38:40):
win this series against New York.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I think.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
So now let me ask you this. This is gonna
sound odd. But which of these two series do you
think is more done over? With Cleveland, Indiana or Minnesota
Golden State. I think many Golden State. So why with
Curry gone?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
And it's only two to one, whereas Cleveland, Indiana is
three one, playing you know, going back to Cleveland, but
it's three to one.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Pacers one went away.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Minnesota Golden State are two to one with Game four
in San Francisco tonight, but they're a totally different team
without Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, they're a shell of themselves.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
They have no they don't have enough offense to win
a game against Minnesota's talent in you know, Minnesota. You
know they had that awful Game one, but they go
they win the night. Now it's three one. Curry's not
coming back for at least until Game six. I think
that series over with Cleveland Indiana. As good as Indiana
has been for Cleveland, you know, you could talk yourself

(39:40):
and saying, hey, this series really should be too two.
And you know, Mitchell got you know, a half of
basketball off, which I think will be huge for his
body and his legs going into Game five tomorrow night.
But it's not like Cleveland isn't talented. They just haven't
played well and they've had some injuries in some bad
luck and again Game two ending, you know, was ridiculous.

(40:01):
So I think if you're a Cleveland fan, you feel
better than you would if you're a Golden State fan.
But maybe if you're a Golden State fan, you're thinking, hey,
all we got to do is when one of the
next two Currik comes back, and then who knows what
can happen.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
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C's New York style pizza and authentic Italian at Tony
C's Pizza and Beer Garden, and how much I've enjoyed
going to the location and Anderson Lane, You're shoul Creek
and Round Rock in front of Dell Diamond. And now
they have the new location open in Kylet Kohler's Crossing.

(40:35):
So it's been a lot of fun to be able
to tell you how much I've enjoyed that place and
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While we continue on thirteen underd the zone.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
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Speaker 9 (40:59):
It's the Craig Wait Show with Hall of Fame broadcaster
and voice of the Texas Longhards Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
More suggestions on the Blizzard flavors.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
This really fired up the text line, Craig, well, we've
got some We've got some Blizzard lovers out there.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, did you have some other ones out there? In
addition to our regular text line, nothing so far yet
on our on our YouTube stream. But please if you're
if you're live streaming with us, don't be afraid the
chime in like this one text or is his cotton
candy and uh my youngest son and my youngest I mean,
he turns twenty six next month, so it's not.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Like he's six, but cotton candy.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
He loves the Bluebell cotton candy flavor, so I'm sure
he would dig the cotton Candy blitz. He probably already
had it several times. I don't know, he probably really
like is there.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
An item that's an ice cream flavor that you like
better than the actual item? I think I don't think
I eat a lot of cotton candy, but I tell
you what I do like cotton candy flavored item like
ice cream really, or like there's like a great Quest
protein bar that's cotton candy flavor that.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Really, I think cotton Kenny was fall that cat. But
the candy floss itself.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Not so much for you. I mean, I guess you
only really see it at what like state fairs or
well long worn games. Okay, yeah, okay there, but I can.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Just see you and your dad sitting together the long
worn baseball game in a regional and you eating some
cotton candy there.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Maybe Usually I go with popcorn.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
You know me.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
You know, I'm a big popcorn It comes when it
comes to sporting events. But yeah, I guess they did
have cotton keny there. I've seen it before. I guess
I just haven't partaken. But that goes that goes back
to my point. I think I like cotton Kenny flavored
ice cream or whatever, then I do the actual item.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, I am like you and that I like popcorn.
I have I have developed of the last couple of
years of real affinity. I don't know why you just
started real affinity for white cheddar popcorn. So really I
really like white cheddar popcorn. But what I do know
about popcorn. For me, it's different for any other broadcast

(43:09):
or I'm sure, but for me, never ever ever eat
popcorn while you're doing a game, or even right before
a game or at halftime. It starches up my throat,
makes it real scratchy and squeaky. So you know, I
get asked a lot about throat preservation. Folks ask me
about that, and don't put things on it that are

(43:33):
going to aggravate it or irritated or things like that.
No carbonated caffeinated beverages right for bar because it caffeine
constricts the vocal cords and then the and then like
I said, a scratchy food like that popcorn, even chips,
you know, stuff like that so close to airtime, that's
not a good thing. Okay, So yeah, if you want
to weigh in, like several others have on their favorite

(43:55):
DQ Blizzard flavor because dairy Queen's celebrating eighty five years
eighty five years now, so you can let us know
on the text line there.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
To baseball, long Horns fall yesterday to Florida. They lose
two out of three in the weekend series. The biggest
culprit was the hitting or lack thereof. I know, you
can look at Friday nights to way a minut they
won eight to two. They lost eight to two on
Friday night. Yeah, but even as Rugariojas did not have
his stuff early there was a six run top of

(44:24):
the first for Florida. The long Wrns managed only two,
you know, two runs in the ball game, and what
only was it three hits?

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Four hits? They they really struggled Saturday.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
They scored all the runs in one inning, five run
bottom of the sixth. Now they got two long balls
and it won from Ryland Galvan and one from Jalen Flores,
and then Joan and Williams had the opposite field bases
clearing double.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
But that was it for what they did.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
And then yesterday two runs, so they could manage there
and really struggle. And Aiden king Reshman, a right hander,
he was really really good yesterday. But there's always that
sliding scale about how good you are or not good
versus how good the opponent is, and how much do

(45:15):
they make you not play the way you've shown and
are capable of playing. How much of that is on
the opponent, how much of that is self inflicted? Those
were some of the things that head coach Jim Slasnagel
was talking about the postgame press conference, and you can
tell he's not happy about this, very disappointed. There was

(45:36):
the opportunity, had they won yesterday, they could have clinched
at least a share of the SEC title on Senior Day,
on Mother's Day, all of those things right after we
heard Ryland galv on last hour were talking about there.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
But it didn't happen. So the mission is not yet complete.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
And Schlass in the news conference yesterday expressed his displeasure.

Speaker 11 (45:55):
Su super disappointing day. I had a lot to play for.
I had a lot out in front one of us.
Pretty disappointed today. Uh, and everything I thought King was
awesome for them, really good. Brit Grubbs did a great job.
Dre burnsy to two days in a row.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Awesome. Those are huge bright spots for us moving forward.
It's you know, as a coaching.

Speaker 11 (46:22):
Staff, we gotta figure out who the five or six
seven best pitchers are. We gotta get him the right
spots to give us a chance to win ball games
and advance our season.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
So, uh, those will be the challenges this week. So
where did the offense go? Yeah? I mean I don't,
you know, I don't know that we.

Speaker 11 (46:44):
I mean, statistically, we've we're we're kind of middle of
the pack of the sec UH statistics. You know, most
of the recipes since Balloes been out and Rodriguez and
Mendoz and since those injuries, you know, the recipe has
been we're gonna score five or six runs a game,
and when we win the games, it's going to be
five to two or six to six to three or

(47:05):
that kind of thing. So I don't I don't know that.
I mean, I think we can be better. I think
we could be more competitive. I thought King was awesome.
We've faced you know, analytically, the best pitching in our league,
you know is Arkansas and and Florida and Anna, you know,

(47:27):
and so when the pitching gets better, you know, on
one hand, you can say, yeah, that's if you if
you could hope to score five or six runs off
that kind of pitching, then you gotta be able to
pitch with them. You know, in the first game, how
many what do we since the first inning on Friday night?
How many runs we give up?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Not many?

Speaker 11 (47:46):
You know, had a tough, tough you know, the extra
run today when the sunball and center field and then
the little trickler that got through the swinging bunch.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I mean, those those things happened. I thought we pitched.

Speaker 11 (47:58):
We pitched with Florida, you know, with the exception in
the first inning in the first game. So but I
mean there's been plenty of offenses that aren't super elite.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
That have won championships and we still have a chance
to do that. Gasperno, did he tweak something or did
you know he's not like something?

Speaker 11 (48:16):
Yeah, just internal team. He'll be fine. He's fine. He'll
be back out there Friday.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
For sure. The news like when you can't manufacture on
I mean, well.

Speaker 11 (48:26):
It's hard to manufacture runs when you can'tet a lead
off heter on base. I mean, so King was awesome
and we had a chance in the first inning to
get to him. You know, Shooter's a guy that you know,
he's super competitive, he's pretty good back to ball skills.
He didn't get a ball put in play and then
uh a, Rod stayed on the ball and hit it
into the win. But yeah, super frustrating you you're smothered,

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But tip tip your cap to him. I mean he
I don't know how many total pick how many total
pitching he prove versus how.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Many strikes of seventy?

Speaker 11 (48:55):
Yeah, so guy's guy who's just dominating the strike zone
with a fa good fast ball, slider and split.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Freshman. That's that's what it is, is the zone. Did
you feel that there was some frustration from the team
just but.

Speaker 11 (49:09):
Yeah, I mean I think yeah, I mean yeah, I
mean I think I think there are certain pitches here
and there that that, uh were frustrating. But at the
same time, you know, I think, you know, I think
that I don't think it impacted the game, uh in
one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You're worried this could impact your national sh.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I'm not worried about I'm not worried about losing that. No, man,
I'm not worried about that. I'm gonna I'm.

Speaker 11 (49:32):
Gonna my jobs to have our team in the best
possible shape to win a regional And so we gotta
get our pitching in order and get get the right
guys in the right spots and maybe get some guys
back to have to be a better offense.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
But we gotta be more competitive through the lineup.

Speaker 11 (49:49):
Adrian Rodrigue is out there playing with a freaking really
banged up hand and he can take a swing and
feel like his hand's gonna fall off and get get
right back in the bat and hit the wall to
sit and get a line drive to center.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Field off a great pitcher. You mean more guys like that?
What is unless it's the team overall? Yeah, I think
you met. Uh don't it's not a short turn around.

Speaker 11 (50:09):
Well, I mean, we don't have a game Tuesday, so
we had I think the you know, this is this
is my most disapointing loss of the season. Senior day
that home got a chance to play for playing for
a championship and tip your captain King, I mean, you know,
make maybe that maybe that was the reason, but we'll
find out.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I'm just really disappointed in this one. How did you
take out any anger or frustration on the team. Uh No,
I don't take out anger or frustration on the team.
You know, I just put My job is to call
spate is paid, you know. I mean I don't like
to meet with teams after games.

Speaker 11 (50:41):
Normally, I only meet with them when I wanna you know,
we lost a tough one or just to kind of
recenter the team a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
But you know, today it was a little different.

Speaker 11 (50:51):
What did you know Jason obviously was I think in
every any of the pitched free pass, But you know,
what'd you see?

Speaker 12 (50:59):
What what you thinking of it?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah? I mean he's, uh, he's a young pitcher who's
who's uh got a chance to be really good for us.

Speaker 11 (51:08):
You know, we had a guy at a and m NAM,
Chris Cortez, who very similar at the same stage and
ended up being a superstar on a team that played
for a national title and second round pick and probably
pitching the big league. So I think Jason's gonna be fine.
He's just it's it's uh, he's going through He's going
through every normal what is a pretty much normal growth

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period in the SEC and and then elite college baseball
for a freshman, ye aren't There aren't that many guys
like like a like King who throws, who throw her
natural strike throwers, and Jason's Jason will eventually be that.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I think.

Speaker 8 (51:44):
Do you feel like you don't have to convey your
frustration to the team because they probably good.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Oh, I conveyed it. I mean I conveyed it, but
he means it's not. I don't.

Speaker 11 (51:51):
It's not yelling at the team. It's not it's not
like cursing them up and down or anything like that.
I mean that I don't it's it's it's just about
you know. You just I'm not gonna lie to a
team either. You tell him the truth about what what
today was all about. And so I mean, hopefully we'll
look back on this day and when you're writing a
story about us and say, man, that that boy, the

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offense sure did turn around from that day. But Oklahoma's
pitch is not gonna let us off the matting and
promise you that.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
What do you your team have the same frustration know
like these people?

Speaker 11 (52:20):
I think so, I mean, I mean, obviously we've got
we we got the time and run the plate twice
in the last two innings against one of the best
closers in the league. So that's fine. But it's the
first seven innings, you know. And maybe it's just King.
Maybe it's just that, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
What do you tell us out wanted to figure out
your pitching and what's on the table for you? You
change his wise?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Huh?

Speaker 11 (52:41):
Well, I mean Rugers f I mean, I'm Ruger's gonna
be fine pitching right where he is. And uh and Luke,
but just uh, I'm out figuring out who else can
start a game for us that's gonna give us a
better chance, you know, give us.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
A good chance. It could be for us, but it
could be some other guys.

Speaker 11 (52:58):
And we have we've we've had a good season, and
so it gives us some wee were room to try
a few things before we get to post uh NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Play, did it, Grugs one that you would consider? Obviously?

Speaker 11 (53:09):
I mean, he started in last week, and he started
he started last he see, he's been a starter here right,
a big infant in the big twelve.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
So uh.

Speaker 11 (53:17):
But at the same time, you know when you tournament
plays so different, you know, turn especially in a regional,
you know you want to stay out of the lose
your bracket. But Burns doing what he's done, Sonia doing
what he's done, Ethan Walker, Right, So now we you know,
we just got to get the guys in the right spots,
or at least what we think would be the right spots.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
But yet is it a weird dichotomy too?

Speaker 5 (53:37):
You guys are number one in the nation. You know,
you did one win and win the conference.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Get you've lost five by this pigure? Yeah, I mean,
I mean it.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
I mean I think, I think that that whole ranking thing,
like that's just a snapshot in time of where teams
are relative to other teams. I mean, we were the
number one team in the country and got swept and
set stay number one? What does that tell you about it?
Everything else? Everybody else is about the same team. I mean,
everybody else is about the same team.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
So who's going to.

Speaker 11 (54:06):
Play the best, who's going to get the timely hit?
You know, the ranking thing? I know what kind of
team we have, and you know we have a good team.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I don't, I don't. I don't think there is any
league team.

Speaker 11 (54:19):
Look at what I don't know what happened in the
Elisi game today, But I mean, who would have thought
that Arkansas, you know, would give up with gage Woodham
the Mountain. We'd give up a thirteen runs? So that's
just crazy sport man. When you when you get it
figured out, text me let me know.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, he's right, and and you know what this is
lest we all forget and he and he and Schloss
made a point of it. It's life in the sec.
It truly is that you know, our old friend they
had basketball coach who's still coaching in the SEC. By
the way, Rick Barnes said used to say when he

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was at Texas Proud Peacock one day, feather Duster to
the next. You can be taken down a peg or
two in the very next game or series or games
within a series.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
It can happen that way, you know.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
And that's why there's so much.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Chatter, and some of it's pretty heated and vitriolic as well,
about these rankings. And I'm gonna go down these rankings
here after the break and reading response.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Well, how do you have some and so ranked of
them when they beat them?

Speaker 4 (55:31):
You know?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And it's and it goes on and on and on
and on, and I'm and I'm going to outline some
examples for you.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
When we come back. So it's that's it is life
in the SEC. And that first SEC season for the
LOGRNS is dwindling. They have one series left before the
conference tournament. By the way, I love this response. And
they were talking about all the different blizzards we like,
and we got to talking about cotton candy itself, and
somebody texted and said, Mike, grandmother bought me a cotton

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candy at a carnival in San Antonio. Wolfed it down,
and she bought me a second one. Wolfed that one
down and then got the worst stomach ache of my
seven year old life. It's got to be on Grandma.
He's got to know better than the let's you eat
two of those back to back. But that's what grand
barons do, right, all right. We'll have more on the

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national scene of college baseball coming up on thirteen under
the Zone.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
We're back.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
It's The craig Way Show with Hall of Fame broadcaster
and voice of the Texas Longhards Craig.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Way, soliciting your responses on your favorite Q blizzard if
you got one.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I know they got some calories in them, some of those.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But you know, you walk in there and you order
when and you see all those things that you see
there's little bins of like M and M's or Reese's
pieces or heath Bard pieces fruit all that kind of stuff,
and you just want to mix it. And I guess
that goes for if you go to what those frozen
yogurt places where you can do all those mixing things, right.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, my kids got me into those.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
My friends love from you, really menchees yeah, over off
near handcock off course.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah, and there's one. And there's one I used to
go to. My kids used to always want to go to.
I can't remember it in Cedar Park Yeah, off of
fourteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well when they were younger about that,
I was like, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
It made me think of the Seinfeld episode where the
non fat yoga, the non fat yogurt was anything but
non fat.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Grammar calls says that Jerry listen Tubby, Yeah, call me
Tubby one more time.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, exactly. Okay, we heard Jim slash name.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
You could definitely tell the frustration and his voice about
that because it was an opportunity and went by the
board yesterday. So what is it mean in the national team, Well,
nothing dire, Yet they did take a bump in the polls.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
In D one Baseball dot Com, and of course they
do a great job covering it in. Kendall Rogers, who
is right at the forefront of it, will join us
on the program tomorrow in the two o'clock hour, and
Kendall will join us to talk about not necessarily just
the damage done to Texas, but the national scene and

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where it is. For example, the brand new D one
Baseball poll is out. LSU was number one. Now LSU
of course lost two out of three to Texas, but
they took two out of three from Arkansas, who swept Texas.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
And that's what I meant.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
About life in the SEC teams, you know, knocking off
one another throughout the course of the season. Arkansas now
has lost and I know, and they aren't dodging, and
Texas has lost back to back series. Arkansas one of
the teams to beat them, and of course swept them.
But Arkansas now has dropped four of its last five series.

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The only one they had was this week win over Texas,
and so now they've dropped for their last five series.
So when folks on social media really upset at D
one Baseball for leaving the Razorbacks just eighth after they
dropped two out of three in baton rouge, and they said, well,
why do you have Auburn ahead? We beat them, and
of course Auburn has more of the hot streak going on,

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and they said, well you didn't punish Texta that. Well,
they dropped from number one to number three. LSU is
now number one and Florida State is number two. Florida
State in North Carolina are second and fourth. I don't
know that the Tarios are best suited for this, but
Florida State might be. If there is a team.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
That might be the exception to the rule.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I know Keith Morland's talked about this, ty Heringkins talking
about I've talked about it. The presumptive winner of the
Southeastern Conference regular season is going to be the number
one overall seat. They're the best team in the best conference,
right that's the presumptive feeling. But because of the constant

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cannibalization that goes on within the SEC, one knocking off
the other, who knocked off another, who knocked you off
or knocked off another. All that's going on one vicious cycle,
that there could be enough cannibalizing there to take one
another down to allow a hot team from another power

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conference with an impressive record to jump all In the now,
Florida six is thirty six and eleven, LSU's forty and twelve,
Texas is forty and ten. Arkansas I think is forty
and eleven. Forty one and eleven and RPI means a
lot as well, and Texas and the RPI today, I

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think is four in the RPI.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So all of that stuff gets factored in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
But another thing that gets factored in for the tournament
selection committee is how are you finishing? And Texas has
dropped back to back series. It doesn't necessarily, you know,
promote a sign of doom, but it's definitely gonna help
them if they can, you know, win this last series
against Oklahoma or certainly look very very competitive that last

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series against Oklahoma. Today's RPI, Georgia is number one. Georgia
just got through losing two out of three at Alabama,
but again on the road, and the strength of schedule
is number five. Auburn is number two in the RPI,
their strength to schedule is number one, Vanderbilt is third,
Texas is fourth, Arkansas is fifth. The top five teams

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in the SEC are the top five teams in the
RPI or SEC teams. Then you have Oregon State sixth,
seventh is LSU, Alabama A, Florence Stine nine, UCLA ten.
So you have the top five or SEC schools in
the RPI, seven of eight in the RPI. Florida's up

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to number thirteen in the RPI. Tennessee and they've been
kind of slumping of late. Now they're fifteenth in the RPI.
Ole miss is seventeenth, and they just got through dropping
two out of three at Mississippi State. So again, there's
a lot of feeding off on another and I think
that's one thing that James Lasnagle was talking about when
he said they kind of take care of themselves the

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SEC and knocking one another off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Oklahoma now is twenty six. I would be remiss if
I did not mention.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
What happened in College Station over the weekend, because it's
just flat out flummoxed folks as to how Texas A
and M, which was swept by Texas, turned around took
two of three from LSU, who is now, by the way,
the number one ranked team in the country, and some

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folks would say, how the world could LSU lose? Well,
it was in College Station, Okay, Aggies go home and
they played Missouri, who is O and twenty four in
the conference, who entered the weekend with an RPI of
one hundred and fifty six, and A and M had
a six to one lead. I think in the middle innings, certainly,
I think in the fourth they were still up six

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to three going to the top of the ninth, and
Missouri scores six in the top of the ninth and
they win nine to six. So it's a shocker, yet
it stunner Okay, they break through and you know when
they get the they get the win. Their first SEX win.
Saturday comes uh, Missouri gets three early runs. They have

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a weather delay, just like they did in the Texas
Florida game, and the Aggies do not recover it from
it coming out of it the way Texas did with
the five runs sixth inning after that, and they lose again.
They lose four to one. So now you know they're
in survival mode. They need to win that last one.
And not only did, they were never in it and

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were blown out and it came dangerously close to being
run ruled. They lost ten to one. Missouri had two
in scoring position there I think in the seventh that
could have pushed the other runs across. They didn't run
rule them, but they did beat them, and they swept them.
And it took Texas A and m from thirty seven
in the RPI do fifty nine. They dropped twenty two

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spots in the RPI. They're pretty much toast. Really, you
think so other than winning the SEC tournament. If okay,
I say that they're going to Athens, George is the
number one team in the RPI. If they sweep three
games there, maybe they're back in the conversation. But even
if they are, they've only gone three and three at

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that point, and they finished conference play thirteen and seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Is it enough? We'll ask Kenna Rogers that when.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
They took two or three from LSU, somebody asked Kendall,
what do the Aggies need to get in? He said,
they probably need to get to thirteen wins. So you're
probably thinking they're gonna, you know, maybe they had ten
at the time, maybe take two of three from Missouri
and win one in Athens or something. Well, now they

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need to sweep Georgia just to go three and three
over that deal to finish thirteen at seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
If they missed the tournament, Craig, A and M and
Kansas would be more like than they previously thought. Remember
Kansas was a number one ranked team in men's basketball. Yeah,
and they missed the tournament. Yeah, and A and M
of course the preseason number one overall team, just as
you alluded to, just shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
But everything you just outlined explains why. Now Kansas didn't
miss the basketball tournament, they were like a sixth seed.
Oh they did, but they got knocked out in the
first round. Okay, so yeah, I sent corrected. Well, but
but your point is made about teams that start in
the lofty spots and then get knocked back down. And look,
they've been through an awful lot of there, and Texas

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has been through an awful lot and and folks can
make all the comparisons and all the snide comments and
all the other kind of stuff that they want to
do that the coaches don't worry about that. They just
go back to work and try to get their teams
turned around. And for Michael Early, right now, he knows
they've got to have let's let's say this, they got
to have a successful weekend in Athens at the very

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least two out of three, and then they're going to
have to do some damage in the SEC tournament if
not win it, and the ship may have sailed. They
may be already done short of winning the conference title,
the tournament title.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
But you can't look at it that way. Now, you
just got to go back to work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Un C was number one and missed the tournament. That's
it in twenty twenty three. Ye so, yep they did.
Apologies to Lawrence Kansas and Bill Selzky. I knew what
happened in the in the men's tournament. I just thought
it was Kansas for some reason, but it was UNC
two years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
We'll be back to wrap up hour number two on
thirteen under the Zone, third and final hour of the
program here on thirteen one hundred the Zone Craig Way
alongside the producer Cameron Parker, glad to have you with
us here for this third and final hour. We've discussed
a variety of topics and we'll have more to get
to coming up in a little bit on this hour.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
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up the question about do you have a favorite DQ
Blizzard favor flavor and cotton candy flavors come out. By

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the way, my wife Linda texted me some picture pictures
of cotton candy that you can buy and containers at
HTV at the store and stuff like that. Have you
ever seen that stuff? She sent that Ceneca pie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Not until then. Yeah, So I don't go down the
candy isle as much as.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Well, what do you think we just stroll up and
down the candy isle all the time all the time.
Like I said, I wasn't aware of the either what
exactly he's saying there cam anyway she's having to notice
it and sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I'm just saying that, you guys have a sweet tooth,
that's all. Oh yeah, yeah, I think you would admit that.
Oh gosh yeah. In my freezer right now, I have
a pint, not a gallon or a half gallon. Have
a pint. Moderation is key.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Well, you know me, I like to sample some of
the new things. Remember we edited the thing about bluebellt
with the new banana fudge flavor. It's supposed to be
like one of those banana fudge bomb pops that you get,
you know, that are yellow and brown as like the
fudge sickle and the banana flavor and all that. It's
supposed to be like the banana fudge pops, the new
blue Bell flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So I did bought a pint of that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It's pretty good, and I wanted to compare it with
the chocolate banana experience, so I bought a pint a
Ben and Jerry Chunky Monkey, which is, you know, banana
flavored ice cream with chocolate chunks in it, stuff like that,
and they even had some walnut pieces in it. So
we taste test in both sides. But that's all we
really did, was is really I mean, it's still sitting

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in the freezer. We don't just sit there and just
gorge through pints of ice cream every night, but we're
interested in tasting different things and stuff like that. So anyway,
so we put the question out there and somebody, somebody said,

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how about the new Dairy Queen crunching cookie dipped cone.
It's pretty good too, crunching cookie dipped cone. That sounds
pretty good. Yeah, we're talking about long worn baseball and
trying to find the groove again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Hitting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Somebody said faults on some fans calling for too low
to be gone because the lack of hitting. I don't agree,
but Kia's are all faults. I would say they're absolutely insane.
That guy does more for trying to keep this group together,
not just in terms of the hitting. I've been around

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this team and I've seen the effect that a future
Hall of Famer has on that baseball team. One day
I got to the ballpark, was there real early, and
Jalen Force was taking some ground balls, and usually they
have a couple of guys like at each base different
once and it was look at the different ones, and
there was another.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Guy taking in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I couldn't I didn't have a good angle to see
who it was, but he was making these amazing glove
back flip tosses to second and then the first it
was too low. This is out there working with the
guys out there. So anybody who would say that clearly
doesn't know about this team that the hitting issues have

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nothing to do with him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
He's worked with him on the hitting, but he's not
the only one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
And I thought we heard slost Angle talk about that
about how you got to get laid off guys aboard.
You have to Aggie Garrido used to say it best
separate balls from strikes you have to be able to
swing at the strikes, leave the pitches outside the zone alone,
and if somebody has a really good breaking ball, that

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increases the difficulty of trying to do that to lay
off and then he comes back and hit with a
fastball or a change up. Keith Morlan, who of course
was an All American in Texas and who played almost
thirteen full seasons in the big leagues, said that what
Aiden King did yesterday that was so good was really

(01:12:01):
good fastball, but his slider was devastating and then would
just tossing that change up just enough to throw you off.
Said he mixed his pitches very well on the zone.
A lot of rank and file fans just flat out
don't know the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
They don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Now, does that excuse not being able to get runners home?
You get him in scoring position. You got to be
able to do that. And that's the job of the coaches,
it's the job of the players. I'll tell you that
Ryland Galvan speaking passionately about it, about what they have
to do, and it's on their shoulders on that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
So anybody would say that doesn't know what they're talking about.
And everyone including Slash with agreed. It's better to have
this happen now than.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Injur Yeah, yeah, yeah. And lest we forget, this is
a team that was picked I believe ninth eighth, some
were seven, eight, nine somewhere. It was supposed to be
a complete rebuild, starting with slots in the Expectation, of course,

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actually change when you get up to number one in
the Rangers and you're playing well and they're thinking, okay, well,
this team's going to win the whole thing, right right,
and they still have a two game lead with three
to go. If somebody offered me that before the start
of the year and said, hey, they're going to be
up two games with three to go in the regular season,
no matter how they arrived at it, front loaded, backloaded,

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early season, late season, rush players out injured, if they've
been one hundred percent healthy, I would have said, more.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Do I sign off?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
That would a slash say he would sign up for
regional Anchorage? Yeah, right, he's go to Anchorage and they're
not going to have to go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
They're going to be hosting a regional and the chances
are incredibly high that they're going to be a top
eight national seat. Now, it would help to have a
good weekend. At least get a game out of there
out at a Norman this weekend. But their their body
of work in all likelihood is going to have them

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as a top eight national seat and they'll be hosting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Do they get it? Do they need to improve?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, everybody's in agreement on that kind of stuff, and
they've got to be take better at bats and not
get behind him counts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
It's some of those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I feel for him because some of those guys you
feel like they're walking to the plate with an O
two count. That was Schustler yesterday. And here's a guy
who's leading the team in conference batting average. He's batting
about three thirty in conference play. But when he struggles
like he did yesterday, that tells me how good that
other pitcher is to do that. He took two called

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third strikes that you almost would never see him to do.
But he was completely put off balance by Aiden King
and so were so many others in the game. So
they've got a lot of things they've got to sort
out there, you know, in terms of the hitting, and
Schela said they got to get their pitching aligned with
what I think. He didn't go into grand detail on it,

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but they want to make sure they're comfortable with their
number three starter and their number four starter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
When you get regionals, if you need that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Max Grubbs has been fabulous out of the pin, but
struggled in the start against Arkansas. He struggled last year
as a starter. He's been fabulous out of the pin.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
That was part of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
They've also lost their number one starting pitcher who was
having a great year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Hard to make up for that, no matter how much
depth you have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Their returning conference player of the year. It was in
the Big Twelve Conference. But Max Blue, a preseason All American,
is going great until he broke the thumb. None of
these are excuses. They're all elements. They're kind of in
the mix of where this team is and what they
need to do. So it's not excuses, but there are,

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you know, facts that cannot be ignored, and so they
have to find the coaches and the players have to
find the way to navigate that to work.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
And you see signs of the time. You saw Jonah
Williams have the big hit on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
And by the way, with regard to the Friday thing,
understand this, if you're a long worn fan, understand that
fans of other teams in this time of social media,
fans of other teams, if your team is having success,
especially one that they do not like, and many fans

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do not of other teams certainly don't like Texas. If
they recognize or can dig up something to unleash on Texas,
they're going to do it. And that includes a seventeen
year old who made a bigger deal out of what
he than what he should have on a five pitch
walk the other night, No doubt about it. It's a

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learning experience for him. He's great enthusiasm and things like that.
But what it spoke to me was that this is
the young man who's a five star safety, who is
kind of being more of a defensive back than he
was a baseball player in the moment. Emotionally, he'll learn
from it, and I'm sure he has. So let's talk

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to him on the field right after it happened. I'm
sure they've had other conversations and these teammates have talked
to him about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
It's learning thing. Don't overblow it. He'll learn from it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
But understand, if you're a long worn fan that fans
of other teams are going to launch an attack on that.
What a classless idiot, what blah blah blah, he should
enter the portal. Stupid crazy stuff like that. You know,
don't let it get on you, let that roll off

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your back. And a lot of this also in terms
of trying to turn things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
And by the way, this is a young man who
who is getting hits too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
He's getting more and more comfortable at the plate every day,
but understand that everything rolls into them trying to get
to the finish line on this and by the finish line,
what I mean is to get to where they can
catch their breath regardless of what happens in Hoover at
the SEC tournament and look ahead to the games that

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matter most the regional if you win that, the Super
Regional if you win that, then achieving what you can
achieve in Omaha, and again in a year that they
were picked to be in a rebuild and finish seven
eight wherever it was in the preseason picks for the SEC,
Yeah they've overachieved. And that doesn't mean you turn off

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the foss and say, okay, well they overachieved and you
know whatever, it has been a great run.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
YadA, YadA.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
They're not looking at it that way. But again, that's
something else that gets mixed into all of this. And
now we see, we will see how they will respond
when they go to Norman to play Oklahoma, a team
which by the way, has one of the best pitchers
in the country in Kais and Witherspoon, who will go
on Thursday night. Now, he did not have his best
game at Kentucky on Friday night. In fact, pitched five

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innings and gave up four runs and he took the loss.
But he has some devastating stuff and that's the challenge
that they're going to deal with on Thursday night in Norman.
All Right, We've got some football and NBA notes to
get to when we come back here on thirteen under
his own.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
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Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
We had a songgoing question today about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
If you have a favorite flavor of an EQ Blizzard,
what it would it be. With him celebrating eighty five
years of being in business, we had a lot of
different responses on the cotton, Candid this and that, and
Cameron likes the cookies and cream and the and the
what was the other Reeses Reese's pieces, And then somebody

(01:20:09):
else at the heath Bar and I pointed out, I
liked that that mashup one that was done for me
out in West Texas that had sliced bananas and strawberries
and pieces of vienna fingers in that berry banana and
vienna finger thing, which was really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
So we had all these different ones, some of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
When we talked about some other things, I mentioned a
couple of flavors of Blue Belt that knew one banana fud.
Somebody said Bluebell banana pudding is the best, better than
a blizzard anytime. Okay, there's two separate things there. First one,
we're not comparing blue Belt to a blizzard. There's those
are two different culinary experiences if you're just having Bluebell
ice cream. That's why I talked about the banana the

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banana fudge flavor. I bet if you like the bana pudding,
you might like the banana fudge. I used to love
that banana pudding flavor from Bluebell, and I kind of
burned self out on it. Same thing with cookies and cream.
You just to love it when it first came out,
and it kind of burned out on it, So I
haven't had it in a while. I'm sure i'd like it.
Another one that I really really liked, I didn't burn

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myself stopped so I wouldn't burn myself on is the
oatmeal cream pie flavor Bluebell. It's pretty good too, but
Bluebill does a good job of, you know, mixing its
flavors around and being very seasonal and all that other
kind of stuff too. It probably helps and adds to it.
I don't know if you saw did you see the

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announcement from NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I did. I'm glad we're getting in this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Love to get your thoughts well for folks on Obviously,
NBC is taking over the NBA after this season, right,
it starts next year, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah, NBC, ESPN, and Amazon. I think we're going to
be the three partners major partners. Yeah, NBC has engaged
for its services as an analyst. I don't know if
it meant game analysts or just in.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Studio, but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I don't I don't see MJ being a color commentator. Yeah,
studio definitely suits him. Yeah, it's Michael Jordan, and he's
never done anything like this. It's always been just like
interviews that people have done with him over the years.
The documentary obviously, the last Dance thing was just epic.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
That was all great. So now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
He's going to be an analyst of some sort like
probably as Cam said, probably in the studio, and it
was Steven A. Smith's quote was I just want to
know is it going to be the Michael Jordan you
see on television or is it going to be the
Michael Jordan we speak to?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Because if it's the Michael Jordan we speak to, it's
going to be epic.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
So he probably has some you know, not suitable for
television thoughts and comments away from that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Yeah, no, that's a good pay. Can't he can't be
all the way out there with that MEBC.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I feel like who Tom Brady is on TV versus
who he is off TV is completely different. I bet
Tom Brady's probably a great hang. He probably says some
great stuff, but on TV, yeah he's okay. That's what
I'm worried about with Michael Jordan is that he might
just be really bland. But if he comes in not
afraid the hurt feelings, which I don't know why he

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would be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
He is the he is the goat. Then I think
he'll excel. I would love.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
And it's too bad, but a crossover with him with
Shaq and Kenny and Chuck, oh my goodness, Like I
just want to see one show what that's like. Well,
there's probably some they would probably have to get out
the dump button because I don't I don't know if
they could be on set without some stuff getting a
little bit too well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Yeah, And and as you know, Michael Jordan and Charles
Barkley are very close. They've been they've been friends a
long time, played a lot of golf together. Jordan's mainly
good golf, Barkley is mainly not good golf. But they're
pretty close. In fact, whenever I've seen comments from Barkley

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about Jordan, they're always incredibly reverential and deferential, you know,
as as opposed to some of the other people that
he's talked about, and to including Shack. You know, you
can get after Shack sometimes. So yeah, I it'd be
interesting if it was. If it's going to be that,

(01:24:39):
so he's and to review what you said, he's going
to uh be part of NBC's cover. NBC is going
to basically transport the t N T NBA crew, right,
I think so. I mean they're gonna what did you say,
They're going to use the TNT studios.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
I believe that that the show will still be out
of T and T studios in Atlanta, but it's just
going to air on esp How can they Okay, so
that's ESPN though not NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yes, I don't think so, that's what I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yeah, right, because it makes you wonder how the work
is TNT and CBS are owned by the same group,
the whole Turner thing, not you know, ESPN is Disney
and ABC ESPN and then you got NBC over here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
I think they're still trying to figure this out too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
I think it's it'll be it'll make for a very interesting,
I think first season, and especially because NBC and Amazon
han't broadcasted. I mean obviously NBC has before, and they
used to carry the NBA Finals, you know, al Michaels
used to be the voice of the finals. Amazon to
Amazon's never carried it. So I'm very interested to see

(01:25:54):
how how this and this is part of sports, right,
I mean like, who's what tn T is going to it?
Who's getting the French opening tennis for the first time?
Is it? Who's it's returning to CBS, I think or
some station that's like I never I can't imagine because
I always grew up watching tennis on NBC.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
But obviously everything changes. They had a long, long, long
long time. I remember when CBS used to have what
do they have they had they had the US Open
forever and you'll be in TNT this year. Okay, yeah, okay,
remember CBS had the US Open forever because their early

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season NFL schedule. On whatever weekend of those finals, what
happened they would have the early you know, they would
have the early game, the single game that weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
All those years when NBC had the NBA Finals, you
know who did their playbo play It was more of
Albert Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Uh he did him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
He did him for a year in the nineties, right, yes, yeah,
then al al Michaels at the very end, it was
it was ABC by then. It was by then because
Bob Costas did it late in Jordan's career. In fact,
the final shot that Michael Jordan hit before he retired. Uh,

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I guess it would have been the second time before
he came back. I guess before he came back with
the NBC. Coors has the famous intro song that you
hear now with the Kevin Hart Yeah d commercial. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Kevin Heart's good at that. So uh, I'm I'm like you,
I'm curious to see how he does. Because if there's
one thing Michael Jordan has been throughout his career or
post playing career on television, is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
It's the word I'm looking for, dude. Reserved. Yeah, reserved.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
And how much of that do you think it's because
he was an owner of an NBA franchise, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Think it might add something to do to but even
before he got into the Charlotte franchise, even before that,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
He, uh, he was always kind of reserved about a
lot of that. So I am I'm kind of curious
to see, you know, how he is on all of this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
I think he's part of a class Craig that is
going to well that will attract viewers, especially to a
studio show because obviously with inside the NBA that'll you know,
now be on ESPN. Like, I think there's a certain
group of people that are like, you know what, I'm
curious to hear with Shaq and Kenny and Chuck out

(01:28:55):
to say. But on ESPN, you know, with their show,
like sorry, Kendrick Perk, I don't care what you have
to say. And so for NBC to build this up,
it's like, hey, how can we make our show compete
with Shaq and Chuck and Kenny.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
It's gonna be super hard to do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Grabbing Michael Jordan the greatest player of all time, that's
a that's a really that's a really good step. Now,
maybe he's not great at it, and you know, we
don't like to listen to him, but I think at
least from beginning of the season, I'm curious to say, hey,
what does m J have to say? Because to your point,
he's been so subdued that we I don't you know,
I hear him talk more about NASCAR because he's been
a NASCAR team owner up until two years ago, than

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he would talk about the NBA. So I would tune
in to listening to this. Okay, what does MJ have
to say in the studio show?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
One NFL note? There?

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Finally the closure may have come on the dude, this
is the Kansas City Chief super Fan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Chiefs A Hawk, Chiefs A Hawic. The bank robber Xavier
Baba Dar.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
He was sentenced today in Tulsa, Oklahoma, to thirty two
years in prison. That's two and a half years after
they caught him in that state as he fled from
a local bank robbery.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
So Chiefs A.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Hauling already serving a seventeen and a half federal sentence
for robbing banks in seven states in twenty twenty two
and twenty twenty three, but the Tulsa County District Attorney's
office wanted him to serve more time, and they were
looking for a life sentence for him. The sentence is concurrent,
which means he'll serve an additional fourteen and a half

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years and in Oklahoma Penitentiary after his federal term ends.
The Tulsa District Attorney said, it was offensive to me
that a serial robber could victimize as many hard working
Americans as this guy did all over the country and
only received seventeen and a half years from the federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
My preference was for him to serve the rest of
his life in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
He caught another break today, but at least he's going
to be serving some additional time, and my thoughts are
with the victims to continue to be tormented by his violence.
So he was like masked and disguised, removed an electronic
monitoring device and connection of a robbery of the Tulsa
Teachers Credit Union. So yeah, his attorneys, by the way,

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express relief. He said the prosecution wanted him the dye
in prison. Yeah, he's gonna get thirty years though. So anyway,
there's the the end of that, all right. Coming up
next will Shift Gears. The Texas women's golf team is
headed for Nationals and we'll visit with head coach Laura Aanello.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Coming up next one. We continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 9 (01:31:40):
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Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Whact continue here on this Monday afternoon. It's funny how
the conversation cam went from blizzards to talking a lot

(01:32:09):
about Bluebell because some folks said, hey, the Bluebell chocolate
peanut butter overload.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Is my new favorite. That does sound good.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Uh so there was something somebody else said the Vienna
sausage Blizzard signed suit Snoop Danny. We talked about Ted
earlier because I mentioned the Vienna fingers and he said,
you mean like the sausages, like no Vienna fingers, the
cookies in all of that. Our man CB talking about
that NBC situation, Uh and uh bringing in Michael Jordan

(01:32:43):
and you pointing out that the TNT guys will be
on the ESPN. He said, I love how Barkley said
he's part of ESPN now, but he ain't doing every
ESPN show except inside the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
And that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
I guess what he's referring to is like a Kendrick
Perkins every time he turned. In addition to the NBA
covers he's on, He's on like Sports Center every hour
during the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
They do the same with a lot of their analysts
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
They have them all put into the car wash. Yeah, yeah,
they're on. They're on so many of the shows.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
They they multipurpose.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Then you might say, and so that would be one
way that you would do it. So anyway, that's that happens.

Speaker 12 (01:33:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
And and we'll see, Like I said, I'm curious to
see Michael Jordan's contributions and I would certainly believe that
that's the only.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Thing he's going to be doing there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I don't think you'll see I don't think you'll see
Michael Jordan winding up on the Today Show. I don't
think he'll be a I don't think he will be
a a sit in co host. I doubt that you'll
probably see that that probably doesn't probably doesn't make much
sense they'll do that, but I'm sure that he'll you know,

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folks will be tuned in to see how it's going
to go. We've been talking about the excellence of the
University of Texas women's golf team and how they're getting
ready to head for the national tournament.

Speaker 9 (01:34:21):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Really cool to have someone in her first season as
head coach have this program in a really good spot.
And Laura Annelo has done that because she's won a
national championship at Arizona and has this Texas women's team
headed for the nationals there in Carlsbad, and she joins

(01:34:46):
us now in the hotline. Lawrence Craig Way, I appreciate
you taking the time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
How are you today?

Speaker 12 (01:34:51):
I'm great? Thanks for having me, Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
You bet, And the first thing I've got to get
you to address is now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
I was over there anchoring our coverage of the news
conference when coach Miller was introduced as the new head
men's basketball coach at Texas, and he took time during
that news conference to pretty much say, you're a tour
to force and was talking about to you. So I
can't I guess, I guess the two of you got
to know each other a little bit when he was
when he was they had basketball coach at Arizona.

Speaker 12 (01:35:20):
Yeah, I got to know coach Miller really well. He
in his twelve years at Arizona. We were there at
the same time and got to see a lot of
his success as a basketball coach, and he inspired our
whole department even before I won. You know, we were
really all looking up to Sean and everything he does
as a coach and developing his players, and so yeah,

(01:35:43):
I was. I was shocked that he gave me a
little shout out, but you know, just what a great
guy and I'm excited that he's here at UT with us.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
You bet, all right, let's let's talk about your team
currently ranked number six, and you finished second at that
regional there at the Betsy Rolls course there in Lubbock,
and the first day, I know, was some beastly conditions there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Do you, as a head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Have to help your golfers kind of make sure that
that doesn't get into their head and that they are
still able to dial in on the task at hand,
which they obviously did, but the outside elements sometimes can
really affect the performance of athletes in certain conditions. How
did all of that roll out for you through that
first day before things got a little bit better afterwards.

Speaker 12 (01:36:30):
Yeah, Well, we got to Lubbock and we had known
that we might play thirty six on that first day,
practice around in the morning, in round one in the afternoon,
which is a total curveball for us in college golf,
because that just doesn't happen. And so I think we
got to Lubbock and we were sitting down the lunch
and we told the ladies like, hey, this is what
might happen. The weather's not looking good. They need to

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make sure that they get this fifty four whole event completed,
so they're going to have us play in the afternoon
starting tomorrow. So we just them that, you know, the
weather for on Sunday it was really windy, super tough conditions, cool,
but at least it was not raining. So I said,
it's a good thing we're playing thirty six. I tried

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to change their mindset because so much and advert conditions
is whether or not you have a strong mindset or
if you have a week mindset. So, you know, making
sure that the ladies looked at it is a great
opportunity to play that first day instead of like dreading
having to play thirty six holes was everything. And then
the second round, which was Monday. You know, the whole

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time the tournament had said we were probably not going
to be playing Monday, and so but I told the
team the night before, I said, in your head, you
better be prepared and ready to play. I said, it's
not called off. I said, we need to go out
there make sure we stay tough. That was kind of
our motto the whole week there in Lubbock was to
be tougher than any other team. We came really close

(01:37:57):
to beating Wake for us that last day, the ladies
played really well, but finishing second and that that good
field and qualifying for the nationals was was our goal.
And I think it was really good prep for next
week before we go to Omni La Costa at the
national Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Absolutely, and before we get to that, I want to
ask you about some of your individuals. I guess I
have to start with pharaoh'keeffe of course, who finished second
in the secs and the NC regional individually, also qualified
recently for the US Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
And how about her and what she has done to
kind of set the tone for your group?

Speaker 12 (01:38:30):
Yeah, Farah just being a sophomore, she is a force.
The kid is is super strong, powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:38:38):
I think her dad, Michael O'Keeffe here in Austin, he's
a he's a tennis pro, owns a tennis academy, and
so I think from a very young age, Michael and
her mom have kind of trained fair to be really,
really tough. She's got a younger brother with always lifting
weights with him, and so she she's just she's such
a competitor and that she leads by example on the

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golf course. She never gives up. She's a fighter. And
then you know to just being locally from Austin and
kind of a sleeper recruit, she wasn't really a top
recruit coming out of high school and luckily signed here
at Texas and came in a semester early to kind
of get some experience under her belt. And then ever
since she's been here, she has just continued to flourish.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
This this kind of goes a little bit off topic,
but I got to ask you, is there a science
or an art in being able to find the sleeper
recruit somebody who may not get that much attention nationally,
maybe not even from you or or from your staff initially,
but you recognize something, there's a there's a wrinkle, there's

(01:39:40):
something under beneath the surface that you think, hey, this
young lady may work out for us, and then and
it does work out.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Is is there a science involved with that?

Speaker 12 (01:39:50):
I mean, I'm no scientist, but I definitely think that
there's sometimes when you have a player that gets overlooked
and they're super talented, you know, that get a ship
on their shoulder that they were overlooked and they have
an vendetta of something that they want to prove something
to people that you know they should have looked at
them harder, or they've always been as good as what

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they've been. And so I think, you know, Sarah has
a great attitude. I think she's continuing to grow and
learn and be open minded to just continuing to learn
the game. She's formed a friendship here with Mark Brooks
out at UT Golf Club and the legendary Mark Brooks,
you know, play the most TGA starts of all time,

(01:40:32):
and she's befriended you know, all of the other great
players here at UT with her that just continue to
make her better because along with Sarah, I mean, we
got just a handful of studs on this team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
As as we visit with Laura n Ello here on
the zone talking about the NCAA. Okay, all I got
to ask you about Omni La Costa and in Carl's Bad.
We you know, we've known about LaCosta and Carlsbad for
years and had had to was on the PGA Tour
for so many years, and the LPGA Tour a part
of it with Nashville with the tournament, the Dinah Shore

(01:41:06):
and all of that. How about how this golf course
sets up for your group for these NCAAs.

Speaker 12 (01:41:14):
Oh, they're ready. They were there last year. They had
a disappointing finish of eleventh place last year, didn't make
it in a match play and you can feel it.
They're ready to make a comeback. They're ready to get
back to La Costa. They know the golf course, They're
going to feel very comfortable. We've been playing here in
Austin this week just to practice and prepare for it
and play in some more difficult golf courses and distances

(01:41:36):
this week, just so that way when we do get
to Omni La Costa, you know, what we're playing out
there will feel easier than what we've been playing here
at home at ut Golf Club. But overall, it's a
marathon of a week. You know, it's seven rounds of
golf in six days to win the national championship. You
know when we won in twenty eighteen and I won

(01:41:58):
with my team back then, I mean really you have
to be mentally and physically fit. It's a lot on
your body and your mind to get through that week.
And so just making sure that the ladies feel confident
and that they know the golf course and that when
we get there we don't overdo it too early and
get the rest that we need. But then yet when

(01:42:19):
it's go time, we push go terrific.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Hey, Laura, I appreciate you taking some time to visit
with us today. We wish you the best of luck
and I hope you're cart and home a national championship
of the team and your second national title.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
We appreciate the time. Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 12 (01:42:36):
No, thanks for having me and you guys have an
awesome day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
All Right, that's Laura Anello, the head golf coach Texas
Women's golf.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
They head out to the national tournament and they're playing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
They're at Omni La Costa So in Carlsbad, California, and
it starts on Friday, so get ready for that. All right,
we'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the program.
I'm thirteen under this dumb
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