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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot to get into this hour, we're gonna hear
(00:02):
from a camera Newton, a former highs and winter national champion,
having the most nuanced and will put together. Take about
Arch Manning, we'll hear about him from him next. But
you saw earlier this week, I should say about this
month Phoenix Suns. They moved off of fourteen time All
Star Kevin Durant sent him to the Houston Rockets. Now, ironically,
(00:24):
you cannot make these type of moves until July six,
because that is when the NBA physical calendar resets. So
all these moves are all in conjecture. It's not official.
It's second the league office, League office taking all these
notes in and it becomes official on the six, which
means you can start adding and maybe taking more teams
(00:46):
and getting involved. Right, So the Athletics Spreadcats reported yesterday
the Rockets and Sons are working on expanding the trade
to involve an NBA record seven teams. You're not difficult
to to get one deal done. How hard it is
to get one team to agree on a type of trade.
Imagine your fantasy football team and you're trying to make
(01:08):
a trade. You're texting the guy constantly, Hey, man, I
really think Josh Allen for Justin Jefferson makes sense for us.
I think it helped both of our teams out. The
NBA is like that, but to a different level. The
anxiety of trying to get the trade done. How difficult
it is to make the money work. There is so
many moving parts. The deal is not intimate, or I
(01:29):
should say it hasn't happened just yet. But Katz is
reporting that the Atlanta Hawks, Brooklyn Nets, Golden State Warriors,
Los Angeles Lakers, and Minnesota Timberwolves are involved in trade discussions.
That's part of the trade. The Hawks would send Clint
Capella to the Rockets in a sign in trade, which
has been a head scratcher for me. I don't understand
how they have so much caproom. Have they been able
(01:51):
to make this work with the luxury tax and everything
else like that? But hey, if you can get underneath
thatond Apraham, I think anything's possible. He mentions also the
trade could include not limited to Durant and Capella obviously
both going to the Rockets, steal and Brooks to Jailing
Green both agree or allegedly going to the Phoenix Suns.
(02:14):
But now you could potentially move them to a different team.
The previous record for the amount of teams involved in
the trade was when the Warriors sent Klay Thompson to
the Dallas Mavericks. If you remember, that was a sign
of trade and the deal that involved six different players.
Also should be noted that the number ten overall pick
and five second round picks was the original trade that
(02:38):
went to the Phoenix Sons and the Kevin Durant trade.
Arizona ended up with that tenth pick. Malachi out of
a duke, was drafted by the Rockets. He had to
put the hat on, but he will be a Phoenix Sun.
So there's a lot of moving parts here. I'm curious
to see what those other teams decide to do, like
again the Hawks to sign and trade with Clin Capella.
(02:59):
He will end up going to the Houston Rockets. But
where are the Warriors involved in this? And how many
more moves could this occur? Right? I kind of think again,
like I'm just looking at it from three thousand feet above,
I would say a lot of these teams are trying
to get underneath that luxury tax. The Lakers, the Warriors,
(03:20):
the Wolves, all teams that made the playoffs this year,
all teams that need to get underneath that second apron
so that they can then sign middle level exception players.
If you remember, the mid level exception was the lifeblood
of the NBA over the last ten years because what
you could do is you could bring in a veteran
into the locker room who would add something to your team.
(03:41):
A lot of these vets coming off of these short
term deals, these vetri minimum deals, ended up being very
important players can playoff time because you need to have
that type of guy in the rotation. Ironically, the one
that I think of the most when it comes to
guys who were signed to a veterri minimum didn't really
do anything was when the Santonio Spurs signed Trace McGrady
(04:03):
and now you get the infamous photo of McGrady in
a Spurs jersey. They signed him right before the twenty
thirteen playoff run where they saw the Spurs go to
the NBA Finals and eventually losing seven games to the
Miami Heat. Ironically, because McGrady didn't really do anything in
those playoffs, as well as the fact that after the
Heat won the title, there was a bunch of stories
(04:25):
about Chris Bosh Dwayne Waye, Lebron James all looking to
the Spurs bench in Game six, the games that Rey
Allen hit the most legendary shot maybe an NBA Finals history.
They all looked to the bench and saw Trace McGrady
laughing and smiling as the Spurs slought they were going
to win the title in Miami, and that, allegedly, again
according to all reports and all stories after the game,
was the thing that spurred that Heat team into playing
(04:48):
a little bit harder, tipping a rebound out to reyal
and eventually hitting the game tying shot that would force
the game seven, and then the Heat ended up winning
their second title in four years. So again, I say
all this to say, there is a lot of moving parts.
This is allegedly a seven team trade that has spawned
from the Kevin Durant trade that they have now added
(05:09):
five potential other teams, all trying to get underneath that
second apron so that they can add veteran minimum players
and add middle level exception guys to their rosters. And
that does not necessarily mean that they're making those moves today.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they're trying to add a
middle level exception guy today. What they're trying to do
is they're trying to get underneath that second apron and
(05:31):
add somebody during the season, say somebody gets hurt, somebody
gets injured, you can add and not have to run
through the playoffs on a bad wheel. I continue, though,
to bang the drum that the NBA players completely ruined
the league, and it's you want to blame the ownership,
You want to blame the CBA on the owners for
(05:53):
negotiating these deals, But it comes down to the players.
It comes down to CJ. Mccoum, who is the players
Association president, who agreed to this deal. Well, the idea
was originally with these aprons. So it's the salary cap,
then there's a luxury tax, and there's a first apron,
and then there's a luxury tax, and then there's a second apron,
and that second aprin is essentially has worked as a
hard cap in the NFL. There's a hard cap. You
(06:15):
cannot spend over this amount of money, otherwise the deal
is void. You can't make the trade. There's a hard
cap in the NFL, and it's supposed to help parody
in the league. It's supposed to prevent a team from
loading up on talent and trying to run the table
and win games. If that was the case, if there
was no cap in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys allegedly
would be winning every Super Bowl because they have more
(06:35):
money than everybody else. They'd be able to go out
and spend all that money. But because of the salary cap,
because of the hard cap, the league has parody and
the Cowboys can't win. The NBA would trying to do
something similar. Okay, we're gonna have a hard cap because
we've seen dynasty after dynasty after dynasty coming off the
Golden State run. We don't want another situation where Durant
can then join a Golden State team. We're going to
(06:57):
have it where there's only so much money to go around.
But because they created a hard cap, guys are having
to accept less money. Case in point, nas Reed, nas Reid.
By all the reports, the Wolf six man was going
to go sign a thirty million dollars contract somewhere else.
He's gonna go get money somewhere else to be a starter.
He was gonna get a lot of money because of
(07:17):
the secondary cap, because of the second apron and the
hard cap, he comes back to Minnesota. Minnesota fans are happy,
Minnesota ownership's happy. Nas Reed and his agent probably aren't
that thrilled. Miles Turner ends up going to the Bucks because,
again because of that second apron, because of the luxury
tax implications, the Pacers decide not to keep them around.
On Tuesday, I was very upset about this. I still am.
(07:40):
You have homegrown talent. You want to keep that talent
in the building. You don't want to let them go
somewhere else, let alone a team in the conference. The
secondary apron has ruined the NBA. It is prevented guys
from being able to move freely, is prevented free agency,
and at the end of the day, players not getting
paid as much as they are worth does not that
that money's going somewhere else. When you're happy that a
(08:02):
player takes a discount, remember you're happy that an owner
is making five million dollars from the back end, that
he's not having to shell out that money. If you're
a Warriors fan and they're paying luxury tax after luxury
tax after luxury tax, you're excited because you're having a
good team. You're also excited because your ownership group cares
about the product on the court. They're willing to spend
that extra one hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars
(08:25):
in luxury tax fees so that you can have a
competitive basketball team that can win you a bunch of championships.
The problem now is that a lot of these ownership
groups are like, well, why am I paying almost this
half my salary cap in luxury tax to put a
competitive team on the floor. As a fan, I've always said,
you want to buy one of these teams for billions
of dollars. Lakers are sold for ten billions, se Sole
(08:47):
for six You want to buy these billion dollar teams.
You got plenty of money to shell out for the
luxury tax. It's your job to put the most competitive
team on the court. It's my job to be excited,
show up by tickets, by the jerseys for those teams.
All right, let me come back. Cam Newton had the
most nuanced take on Arch Manning and the whirlwind that's
(09:07):
going around the conversation from Paul Fibaum. We knew he
was going to do this, We knew he was going
to start this fire train all coming up to Daxon
the Craigway Show, Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred Zone
A lot to get into this hour, we're gonna hear
(00:02):
from a camera Newton, a former highs and winter national champion,
having the most nuanced and will put together. Take about
Arch Manning, we'll hear about him from him next. But
you saw earlier this week, I should say about this
month Phoenix Suns. They moved off of fourteen time All
Star Kevin Durant sent him to the Houston Rockets. Now, ironically,
(00:24):
you cannot make these type of moves until July six,
because that is when the NBA physical calendar resets. So
all these moves are all in conjecture. It's not official.
It's second the league office, League office taking all these
notes in and it becomes official on the six, which
means you can start adding and maybe taking more teams
(00:46):
and getting involved. Right, So the Athletics Spreadcats reported yesterday
the Rockets and Sons are working on expanding the trade
to involve an NBA record seven teams. You're not difficult
to to get one deal done. How hard it is
to get one team to agree on a type of trade.
Imagine your fantasy football team and you're trying to make
(01:08):
a trade. You're texting the guy constantly, Hey, man, I
really think Josh Allen for Justin Jefferson makes sense for us.
I think it helped both of our teams out. The
NBA is like that, but to a different level. The
anxiety of trying to get the trade done. How difficult
it is to make the money work. There is so
many moving parts. The deal is not intimate, or I
(01:29):
should say it hasn't happened just yet. But Katz is
reporting that the Atlanta Hawks, Brooklyn Nets, Golden State Warriors,
Los Angeles Lakers, and Minnesota Timberwolves are involved in trade discussions.
That's part of the trade. The Hawks would send Clint
Capella to the Rockets in a sign in trade, which
has been a head scratcher for me. I don't understand
how they have so much caproom. Have they been able
(01:51):
to make this work with the luxury tax and everything
else like that? But hey, if you can get underneath
thatond Apraham, I think anything's possible. He mentions also the
trade could include not limited to Durant and Capella obviously
both going to the Rockets, steal and Brooks to Jailing
Green both agree or allegedly going to the Phoenix Suns.
(02:14):
But now you could potentially move them to a different team.
The previous record for the amount of teams involved in
the trade was when the Warriors sent Klay Thompson to
the Dallas Mavericks. If you remember, that was a sign
of trade and the deal that involved six different players.
Also should be noted that the number ten overall pick
and five second round picks was the original trade that
(02:38):
went to the Phoenix Sons and the Kevin Durant trade.
Arizona ended up with that tenth pick. Malachi out of
a duke, was drafted by the Rockets. He had to
put the hat on, but he will be a Phoenix Sun.
So there's a lot of moving parts here. I'm curious
to see what those other teams decide to do, like
again the Hawks to sign and trade with Clin Capella.
(02:59):
He will end up going to the Houston Rockets. But
where are the Warriors involved in this? And how many
more moves could this occur? Right? I kind of think again,
like I'm just looking at it from three thousand feet above,
I would say a lot of these teams are trying
to get underneath that luxury tax. The Lakers, the Warriors,
(03:20):
the Wolves, all teams that made the playoffs this year,
all teams that need to get underneath that second apron
so that they can then sign middle level exception players.
If you remember, the mid level exception was the lifeblood
of the NBA over the last ten years because what
you could do is you could bring in a veteran
into the locker room who would add something to your team.
(03:41):
A lot of these vets coming off of these short
term deals, these vetri minimum deals, ended up being very
important players can playoff time because you need to have
that type of guy in the rotation. Ironically, the one
that I think of the most when it comes to
guys who were signed to a veterri minimum didn't really
do anything was when the Santonio Spurs signed Trace McGrady
(04:03):
and now you get the infamous photo of McGrady in
a Spurs jersey. They signed him right before the twenty
thirteen playoff run where they saw the Spurs go to
the NBA Finals and eventually losing seven games to the
Miami Heat. Ironically, because McGrady didn't really do anything in
those playoffs, as well as the fact that after the
Heat won the title, there was a bunch of stories
(04:25):
about Chris Bosh Dwayne Waye, Lebron James all looking to
the Spurs bench in Game six, the games that Rey
Allen hit the most legendary shot maybe an NBA Finals history.
They all looked to the bench and saw Trace McGrady
laughing and smiling as the Spurs slought they were going
to win the title in Miami, and that, allegedly, again
according to all reports and all stories after the game,
was the thing that spurred that Heat team into playing
(04:48):
a little bit harder, tipping a rebound out to reyal
and eventually hitting the game tying shot that would force
the game seven, and then the Heat ended up winning
their second title in four years. So again, I say
all this to say, there is a lot of moving parts.
This is allegedly a seven team trade that has spawned
from the Kevin Durant trade that they have now added
(05:09):
five potential other teams, all trying to get underneath that
second apron so that they can add veteran minimum players
and add middle level exception guys to their rosters. And
that does not necessarily mean that they're making those moves today.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they're trying to add a
middle level exception guy today. What they're trying to do
is they're trying to get underneath that second apron and
(05:31):
add somebody during the season, say somebody gets hurt, somebody
gets injured, you can add and not have to run
through the playoffs on a bad wheel. I continue, though,
to bang the drum that the NBA players completely ruined
the league, and it's you want to blame the ownership,
You want to blame the CBA on the owners for
(05:53):
negotiating these deals, But it comes down to the players.
It comes down to CJ. Mccoum, who is the players
Association president, who agreed to this deal. Well, the idea
was originally with these aprons. So it's the salary cap,
then there's a luxury tax, and there's a first apron,
and then there's a luxury tax, and then there's a second apron,
and that second aprin is essentially has worked as a
hard cap in the NFL. There's a hard cap. You
(06:15):
cannot spend over this amount of money, otherwise the deal
is void. You can't make the trade. There's a hard
cap in the NFL, and it's supposed to help parody
in the league. It's supposed to prevent a team from
loading up on talent and trying to run the table
and win games. If that was the case, if there
was no cap in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys allegedly
would be winning every Super Bowl because they have more
(06:35):
money than everybody else. They'd be able to go out
and spend all that money. But because of the salary cap,
because of the hard cap, the league has parody and
the Cowboys can't win. The NBA would trying to do
something similar. Okay, we're gonna have a hard cap because
we've seen dynasty after dynasty after dynasty coming off the
Golden State run. We don't want another situation where Durant
can then join a Golden State team. We're going to
(06:57):
have it where there's only so much money to go around.
But because they created a hard cap, guys are having
to accept less money. Case in point, nas Reed, nas Reid.
By all the reports, the Wolf six man was going
to go sign a thirty million dollars contract somewhere else.
He's gonna go get money somewhere else to be a starter.
He was gonna get a lot of money because of
(07:17):
the secondary cap, because of the second apron and the
hard cap, he comes back to Minnesota. Minnesota fans are happy,
Minnesota ownership's happy. Nas Reed and his agent probably aren't
that thrilled. Miles Turner ends up going to the Bucks because,
again because of that second apron, because of the luxury
tax implications, the Pacers decide not to keep them around.
On Tuesday, I was very upset about this. I still am.
(07:40):
You have homegrown talent. You want to keep that talent
in the building. You don't want to let them go
somewhere else, let alone a team in the conference. The
secondary apron has ruined the NBA. It is prevented guys
from being able to move freely, is prevented free agency,
and at the end of the day, players not getting
paid as much as they are worth does not that
that money's going somewhere else. When you're happy that a
(08:02):
player takes a discount, remember you're happy that an owner
is making five million dollars from the back end, that
he's not having to shell out that money. If you're
a Warriors fan and they're paying luxury tax after luxury
tax after luxury tax, you're excited because you're having a
good team. You're also excited because your ownership group cares
about the product on the court. They're willing to spend
that extra one hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars
(08:25):
in luxury tax fees so that you can have a
competitive basketball team that can win you a bunch of championships.
The problem now is that a lot of these ownership
groups are like, well, why am I paying almost this
half my salary cap in luxury tax to put a
competitive team on the floor. As a fan, I've always said,
you want to buy one of these teams for billions
of dollars. Lakers are sold for ten billions, se Sole
(08:47):
for six You want to buy these billion dollar teams.
You got plenty of money to shell out for the
luxury tax. It's your job to put the most competitive
team on the court. It's my job to be excited,
show up by tickets, by the jerseys for those teams.
All right, let me come back. Cam Newton had the
most nuanced take on Arch Manning and the whirlwind that's
(09:07):
going around the conversation from Paul Fibaum. We knew he
was going to do this, We knew he was going
to start this fire train all coming up to Daxon
the Craigway Show, Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred Zone
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