August 19, 2025 • 24 mins
This week on the show, we catch up with Dave Campbell’s Texas Football editor-in-chief Greg Tepper as he gears up for another whirlwind season of road trips, small-town cafes, and Friday night lights. From opening night in Abilene to hidden gems like Santo, Tepper shares how he and Matt Stepp choose their high school football stops—and the quirky food traditions that come with them. The conversation shifts to college ball with tough news for Texas Tech: standout RB Quentin Joyner is sidelined, forcing the Red Raiders to lean on depth and test their offensive line early. We break down what that means for Joey McGuire’s squad, Baron Morton’s role at quarterback, and whether Tech can survive a running-back-by-committee approach. Plus, Tepper dives into the FCS landscape, where programs like Tarleton, ACU, and Incarnate Word could make national noise, and even a brand-new UTRGV program is ready to shine. And on the high school side, we spotlight two-way powerhouses like Refugio, Munster, and Shiner—along with hidden-gem stories like Wolf City’s record-chasing RB HD Davis. It’s wall-to-wall football talk, with a dash of diner recommendations and plenty of statewide perspective, as Texas gets set for kickoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We hear from the iconic Willie Nelson at the three
o'clock I were rolling out some highwaymen for us there.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Because what in next week, Craig, you will be a
highwayman all the fine folks at Dave Campbell's Texas Football.
You know what.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Listen, Greg Jepper to the editor in chief, has already
been doing that. He's already been making the rounds. He
already has his plans set up for the season open
and all that kind of stuff. You already kind of
laid the little groundwork for your mini travels this year,
haven't you.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah. I've got a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
In the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
One, I'm gonna be making my way out to Abilene
opening night. Where else better to spend it than stadium
for Byron Nelson versus Wolforth friendship and a nice cross
regional opener, good way to get good talent there in
that one. And then I'm keeping a lot of the
rest of it open. Although Matt Stepp has has bullied
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into I think it's a week we're going to where
we're going to Lindsey at Santo and and that feels
that feels on brand for Matt step who picks a
couple of games. That's he's the he's a remarkable fellow
because he's probably the only person in the world who
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gets paid.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And he could go to any high school football game.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He wants, and so he could go to number one
versus number four every week if you want it to,
or number two versus number seven, and then he will
just drop a de heinous game on you, just out
of nowhere to be like, you know what, I've never
been to Meridian, so I guess I better go to Meridian.
It's but it's it's it's a unique, a unique illness.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That he has.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
There's a there's a I've forgotten the name of it,
but I'll bet you if he doesn't already know it,
he'll he'll discover it. There's a cafe in Santo that's
that's that's that's top flight, and I can't remember it
at the top of my head, but I'm sure he'll
find it if he hasn't already.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
There was no doubt in my mind that you were
going to say something like that. There was no doubt
in my mind that you were going to say, yeah, actually,
there's a there's a diner there then, and you got
to order the number four, but make sure you get
it with extra onions or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's this. This is the kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That I rely uh in my life that when I
am driving through uh, the bustling metropolis of Burnett, that
you know exactly where I should go.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, you know, listen, it's it's no real trick to
tell people to hit the Bluebondy Cafe and Marble Falls
or to you know, or to go to you know
some of those plates. You and Ashley Pickle were the
ones that educated me on the place down of McCallum
with the bou Thomas platter you know, yes, yeah, when
we went.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Down to the Rio Grand Valley that was those Those
are trips. Those are trips where you you there's almost
pressure on fixing the right place to eat because like
you're down there and and there's so many good there's
so many good options. Make sure you don't screw it up,
you know what I mean. Right, It's kind of like
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if you're if you're the number one team in the
nation and you welcome in like a team that's that's
gonna finish ninth in the in the whack, and it's
like fourteen thirteen and a half. Like, then the pressure's
on you, you know, so, same thing when you go
to El Paso or the Rio Grand Valley or any
of these outstanding food locales in the state.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, you better make sure you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, you always like to tell the story of
of you mining your own business and in your company
of people. When we were all at coaching school in
Houston a few years back, and you're sitting out on
a patio and I go rolling up on the side and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I had Linda with me, and I rolled down the wind, I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like, hey, house of pies, and you literally leaped over
the gate and went running into the car.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I abandoned. I abandoned my colleagues and my company. At
that point, I get and pie.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So Red Teppers. But let's start with the college thing.
I want to get your thoughts for people in these
parts who remember watching Quinton Joyner just as like they
remembered watching College Brooks when they were both main or Mustangs. Uh,
that sort of thing. It hits home pretty well, and
(04:19):
it obviously hits Texas Tech hard and home with him
being out and Mike Craven, you know, reported the story
that so many others jumped on later.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That is a tough break for Texas Tech. My question
to you it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
How does it shape your view and that of Mike's,
of of the Red Raiders in terms of you talked
about this being a big year in terms of what
could be out there. Uh, certainly for Joey McGuire's teeth.
How does this affect it?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, let's let's be real clear
that like Quentin Joyce, what we're gonna say is is
all against the backtop of Quentin Joyner was undoubtedly the
most talented running back on the campus and and undoubtedly
a guy who's going to be on a short list
of guys who could be an all big twelve type
running back. You know, the USC transfer an opportunity to
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come home in the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, a manor guy I know he was. He
was really excited to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The is now going to be Okay, We're going to
see exactly how much depth these guys have Now they
have some they had, Tech has some running backs that
they feel really good about. Cameron Dickey is a guy
that they're they're excited about. Uh, tex Tags Wolfans may
remember the name of Jacoby Williams, who was such a
star at Beckville before he went on to Texas Tech.
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They're gonna have to be thrust into bigger roles and
and and you know, look, it was going to happen
at some point that they were going to have some
sort of injury that was going to test their depth.
I think Joey McGuire would prefer it didn't happen, you know,
ten days.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Before the opener, but.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It was going to happen at some point the the
I think a lot of this is going to come
back to as as we've talked about, it's going to
come back to quarterback play. It's going to come back
to whether or not they feel like they've got the
right quarterback this year. And and you know, they feel
like they do in Baron Morton. We'll find out now
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that's just one fewer safety net for him and and
and I think that you will find out really quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think I'm very interested, especially in that Week one
game against Arkansas Pine Bluff, which should be an easy
win for Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
See how well they can install a running game with
their RB two. They will have an opportunity to stretch
it out and to try some things and to get
guys up to speed. You know, the good thing for
them is that, you know, Week one feels like gonna
be gonna be a should be a relatively easy win.
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But you got to make sure you go out there
and see what you can now milk out of this
running game that is going to be playing with one
arm tied tied back.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, that's a fair thing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And I would also say, and you talked about the
folks who follow Texas high school football, by I'm going
to tell you this, and you know this, folks that
followed AISD football around here, remember Cameron Dickie really well
when he was like mister everything for Crockett, and he
really needed to be when he was there and leading.
He played quarterback, he played in the secondary, he was
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he was all over the place for Derek Norton's team.
And he's a virtual athlete, I guess, is what I'm saying.
So maybe he fits into that mold of what you're
talking about what they can do with the running back
and what they can use him by getting him the
football in space. Yeah, ironically, by losing a guy like
Quentin Joyner. They are now going to three into a
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bigger role guys who historically taking on a huge role
in the offense has not necessarily been been all that,
you know, strange for them, right, you know Jacoby Williams
did everything for them at Beckfill. Right, You're exactly right
that Cameron Dicky did everything for them at Crockett. And
so now the test is going to be for Mac
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Leftwich to go out there and say, Okay, what can
you guys do best? How can we establish you know,
work both of you guys in I don't I will
just say this, I think that you've got to now
view Texas Tech more as running back by committee. Maybe
Cameron Dickey goes out there and shows out and runs
for thre hundred yards and he's he was gonna be
the guy all along. But now it's going to be
running back by committee, and it's going to be up
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to Mac left which I think to press the right
buttons with these guys and and and feel like they
can kind of plug and plug and play uh and
and kind of exacerbate the things that they do well.
Especially with the loss of what was going to be
a bellcow running back. It's an interesting dynamic because here
here's where I'm going with this. Obviously Mac left left
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Wich enjoy McGuire on a larger scale probably feel that
what they have up front in terms of their offensive
line can make it work no matter who the running
back is. But when you lose somebody of the talent
of Joiner who had transferred in it from USC, then
obviously it gives you some pause. But I put what
they're thinking about in a similar context to what down
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and here in Austin with Sark and his coaching staff
with what they could do with CJ. Baxter Andrey Weisner
doing even a healthy Christian Clark, what they could do
there because of the the multiple variations of what they
can do with the running back based on the performance
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of your offensive lineup front.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, I think that you're spot on that this is
going to be a real test. I think for how
much Mac left Which trusts his offensive line, because essentially
a standout run a mediocre offensive line and make them
look great. But if you you know, if you're going
to have a if you have a great offensive line
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kind of matter, it matters. But but certainly there are
a fewer penalties I would say for getting an injury
back there, and so yeah, a lot of this is
going to fall on the offensive line and a lot
of it is going to fall on Baron Morton to
make throws and make them respect the passing game enough
that you're not going to have defenses load up the
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box and say, well, we don't got to worry about
this run this passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We know that we can do this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This is losing a guy like Quentin Joyner makes it
so that all of the other pieces of the offense,
the offensive line, the quarterback, the receivers, that the tight ends,
they all have to step up in a bigger way
and we will see. This is like the first real
test here for Mac Leftwich offensive coordinator to see if
he is ready for the prime time there at the
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Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's great, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So one of the other things that's previewed in the
magazine and you also get to it and the staff
does on the website also is the FCS thing. And
when I saw an early season FCS ranking, I expected
to see Tarlton in there, and I did. And I
expected to see abling Christian in there, and I did.
(12:03):
I don't know that I was expecting to see Stephen F.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Austin.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But there they are and and so I mean the
state of Texas seems to be well represented at the
FCS level as well as what's going on with the
FBS level.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, it's it's actually going to be, in my opinion,
a really strong year potentially in the in the FCS
ranks within the state of Texas. And you're right, you know,
Tarleton's a team coming off of a ten win season.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We've got really high hopes for them.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But I think that you know, in the past, Texas,
the state of Texas has normally had one, maybe two
SCS teams that have really broken through. I think there's
as many as three, four five FCS teams that could
really make some noise this year. Obviously, Tarleton, I think
ablein Christian has an opportunity to be really, really good.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Steven F. Austin, I left UIW two.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Incarnate Word I think is the team that the Incarnate
Word is going to be like everyone's favorite FCS team
because they just score like a ton. Clint keelow Is
is like just an offensive you know, guru and an
offensive wizard, and and this is a opportunity I think
for them to really Shine. But between them, between you
know Austin talking with Kolbe Kurfel, they're really fired up
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about what they've got going on out there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
In the woods.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This is a deep year in the FCS, and it's
going to make the Southland Conference race really interesting. Uh,
it is going to to make all of these FCS
races really interesting. I would also say along those same lines,
there's there's great storylines in the f CS. I think
both of the swack teams within the state. Uh, whether
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you're talking about Texas Southern or Prayerview and them, I
think I think they are both on the upswing, which
is not something we've been able to say recently.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think both of them.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And then we get a new FBFCS team this year
in the debut of UTR GV, which opens up against
Soul Ross. I believe next Saturday, and you better believe
it's going to be a party in the Valley. They've
been they've been anxious for this, and uh, you know,
they've got a former Texas high school football coach and
Travis Bush at the helm. They've got a former Valley
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like all everything quarterback in Eddie Lee Marburger leading the way,
it is gonna.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Be really fun seeing there.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So yeah, I think I think it's It's one of
those things where you and I do this a lot
with high school where if you're if you're a fan
of Lake Travis, you're a fan of Westlake, it's easy
for you to get into that and stay into that.
But if you're only consuming that, you're missing a lot
of good football. You're missing three a football and two
a football, right, the same thing I think with college football.
If you're only paying with a longhorn, paying attention to longhorns,
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that's great. There're gonna be a lot of fun to watch.
And also there's a lot of other really good football,
even at the smaller classifications that I think are gonna
make this a really fun year. A fun year I
think in in college football holistically across the state.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Visiting with Greg Chapper, editor in chief Take Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine Art, we continue our state wide previews were
down to class to a and before we get into
talking about the favorites, I have to say I love
the piece that Carter Yates did on the cover. Boy
First of all, any kid, any running back that carries
the name HD Davis. That's a great running back name.
I just I just think it's a good story. And
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he happens to play for the Wolf City Wolves, so
that's pretty cool too.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and he's I mean, you want to talk about
putting a Texas high school football team like on the map,
I mean Wolf City. I want to say this as
respectfully as possible. Wolf City kind of qualifies as one
of those just another Texas high school football team.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know, they've had big years here and there.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Back in twenty eighteen they had a good year, and
two you know two that and six they had a
good year. But like you know, every so often they'll
crop up and have a great year. But this is
not some powerhouse at the two A level. But they
have a remarkable running back in HD Davis and a
guy who's going to be smashing every record in Wolf
City history by the end, by the time his career
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is over. It's a remarkable story and he's a guy
who I think he just kind of like an old
school running back, which is kind of the places that
you can see this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I made this.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I made this comment when when the Sugarland Express Ken
Hall passed away earlier this year that I said that,
I think his career mark is probably gonna get overtaken.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He has the career rushing record and I'll probably get
overtaken it, and it'll be a guy like hd Davis,
which is a small school guy that they're going to
hand the ball off to thirty five times a game
and he's gonna end up with two hundred and seventy
yards per game or something like that. That's the way
that that record is going to fall. I think HGD
Davis probably got started a little bit too late, but
I think that that is that's how it's gonna happen.
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And he's just a true old school running back that
you know what's coming and you still don't know how
to stop it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, And to your point about them being kind of
a you know, in many folks minds, just another program,
Carter wrote that historically they're about a five hundred program,
like four sixty five or sixty three and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Thirty one, that kind of thing. The other thing, and
I this.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Is my own personal theory I've carried for years and
you've heard me say it on the Scoreboard Show in
the past. Wolf City resides in what I like to
call a black hole. It's seventy miles northeast of Dallas,
so it's out of the coverage area of DFW kind
of maybe falls in the Texoma Sherman Dennison area if
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they've got time to go out there, but usually doesn't
have that much time to do it, so they go
largely unnoticed. Same thing with other parts. It used to
say that about San Angelo. In between here and there
in different places, there's some regions of the state that
don't come in for other than what you guys do
in covering. It doesn't come in for regular weekly video
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and television type coverage, so they slide under the radar
a little bit. And Wolf City's one of those Yeah,
you're black hole is a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
They are they are just they're in between all of
these major these these major media markets, and so as
a result, like nobody ends up covering it, and and
this the same thing happens, uh kind of like you know,
it'll happen kind of in parts of like just north
of the Brasses Valley, there's kind of an area around
there where where there's not anybody there. You're exactly right,
like like there's parts of the Concho Valley that don't
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get a ton of coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Even there's another one.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'll give you another one, Yoakam that that that south
central Texas area kind of between Austin, San Antonio and Houston,
but none of those markets really step up and pick
them up until all their area teams are exhausted in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, it's it's one of those things like if I
made the point earlier like that, if Alice ever got
really good, it would be a real interesting thing thing
to see, Like who's going to hop on the Alice
panel because because they're they're they're not the Rio Grand Valley,
it certainly not, and they're probably outside of the San
Antonio cover. But you're exactly right, And that's what I
think gives us an opportunity to like shine a light
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on these guys and why I think in high school
football you can still find these hidden gyms.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Now with the point with college football and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
The media saturation there is, if there's a great player,
there's gonna be a lot of ink about them.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They're still guys who fly.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Under the Texas high school football and I think HD
Dave is a perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Example one, Yeah, yeah, I no doubt about.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Okay, your Division one preseason pick is refei O, as
we do the two A period and Munster Division two pick.
Both these teams have won championships and at last in
at least recent years. Same thing with Ganado obviously a
defending state title in D one and Shiner we've seen
their Pedigrandy two.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The familiar what do you say, usual suspects near the
top of the two A Division one and Division two picks.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, I'd say, so, you know, we don't go with
the defending champs in Canado this year in two A
Division one, they got hammered by graduation. I mean, when
you're in Gannado, Texas and you graduate eighteen seniors, that's
a lot of players who are a lot of talent
whos walking out the door, including bright all mister everything
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for them last year in the run of that state
championship game. We what Refurio brings back, especially from the
speed perspective, you know, if they can find especially if
they can kind of settle in on an identity of
more balanced offensively, because I think what ended up happening
and what's ended up biting them in the past is
they've gone really, really, really run heavy. If they can
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find a passing game, that's when they really get dangerous.
But to a Division one's fascinating because you do have
Canado kind of lurking there.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
This is a year I'm all in on Wascomb.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I think Wascom has an opportunity to rise up there,
but they're gonna have a huge challenge within Region three
of Garrison, who were really high up. This is a
team that brings back a ton from last year's team.
And then the other thing that I think is really
great about this year into a Division one is that
you've got regional balance in a lot of ways. Got
great teams in Region four. Region three we mentioned you
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have Wascom and Garrison. Region one always loaded Stamford a
state finalists from a year ago. Panhandle figures would be
really good per mystery box. Region is always Region two,
which you may remember was one by the Hamilton Bulldogs
last year between Hamilton between Dillyon between Axtel between the
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aforementioned Wolf City two a Division one region. Region two
is I think my favorite region because it's just like
it's the anonymous region. It's the somebody whos got to
win a region, which makes well, which will make that
really fun. And then you mentioned two A Division two
and Munster starts the years a number one. They have,
in my opinion, the best player in two A and
case and Karney and you and I were on the
call of the state championship game last year, and a
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guy that they toward the end they just built the
whole plane out of case In Karney and said take
us home, big fella, and he did, and he's back
for another year. It's they do have some pieces that
they need to replace, you know. Most notably they're gonna
have to replace some guys on the offensive line, which
is something Munster's always hung their hat on. Shiner brings
back a fairmount from last year, State finalists again from
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last year. But the team that either there's two teams
that I really want to get people thinking about. One
of them is Bremond. You may remember back in the
shot All Days where they went with the three peat
and one of the most remarkable players. They are back
in a big, big way. Brimon looks really really good.
The other one, this is more recent, but after a
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year away, Albany is gonna be a problem again. Albany
took some lumps last year by their standards by going
nine to three, but they bring back They bring back
sixteen starters, they bring back twenty of their twenty seven lettermen,
and you give Denny faith an experienced ball club and
he is gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Make some hay.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I'm really interested in what in what they end up
doing because I think that, you know, especially Albany and Munster,
really fun to watch, and especially with these small schools
where you can get big surprises if some team's got
some freshmen we've never heard of, or some sophomore we've
never heard of. That's what makes two Edivision two really interesting.
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But Munster, I think starts as the deserves favorite.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Greater Rostinner doesn't have many in the two A ranks,
but but sake to say the best one of the
bunch is probably Granger.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I actually really like what Granger's been able to put together.
This is a team that I think the build there
has been really steady and consistent, and they have done
I think an excellent job of kind of giving them
entity and what you know, Gaston McDorman has done. Now
entering his second season taking over for Cal Netherland. This
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is a this is a program there and Granger that
I think could be ready for that leap fifteen starters back.
They got a running back Caleb Hobbs Hobbs Ratch I
think is his name, who is a playmaker. They're gonna
be really fun to watch and I'm interested to see.
You know, Region four is obviously going to be I think,
very difficult at all. Roads are going to eventually lead through,
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you know, eventually going to lead through you know, some
of the very best teams. But I think that when
you take a look at what they've been able to do,
they can go toe to toe with.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The teams like Junction and Fall City.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Shiner is the king there, but they can go and
I think they have an opportunity to really make a
deep run, especially they can find a little bit of
help defensively.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's Greg Temper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
And and next week, of course, is game week, and
we get all fired up, but we also get to
do a six man preview.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yes, Yes, we're gonna We are gonna sit here and
we're gonna go game by game of Klondike we're gonna
go game by game. We're gonna predict the record for
the Cougars of Klondike.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's what we're doing next week.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's that's a tease often right offen olphen Pawnee.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They're up next. Yeah, all right, hey, thanks to appreciate it.
See you guys. All right. That's Greg Temper Dave Campbell's
Texas Football magazine
We hear from the iconic Willie Nelson at the three
o'clock I were rolling out some highwaymen for us there.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Because what in next week, Craig, you will be a
highwayman all the fine folks at Dave Campbell's Texas Football.
You know what.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Listen, Greg Jepper to the editor in chief, has already
been doing that. He's already been making the rounds. He
already has his plans set up for the season open
and all that kind of stuff. You already kind of
laid the little groundwork for your mini travels this year,
haven't you.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah. I've got a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
In the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
One, I'm gonna be making my way out to Abilene
opening night. Where else better to spend it than stadium
for Byron Nelson versus Wolforth friendship and a nice cross
regional opener, good way to get good talent there in
that one. And then I'm keeping a lot of the
rest of it open. Although Matt Stepp has has bullied
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into I think it's a week we're going to where
we're going to Lindsey at Santo and and that feels
that feels on brand for Matt step who picks a
couple of games. That's he's the he's a remarkable fellow
because he's probably the only person in the world who
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gets paid.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And he could go to any high school football game.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He wants, and so he could go to number one
versus number four every week if you want it to,
or number two versus number seven, and then he will
just drop a de heinous game on you, just out
of nowhere to be like, you know what, I've never
been to Meridian, so I guess I better go to Meridian.
It's but it's it's it's a unique, a unique illness.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That he has.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
There's a there's a I've forgotten the name of it,
but I'll bet you if he doesn't already know it,
he'll he'll discover it. There's a cafe in Santo that's
that's that's that's top flight, and I can't remember it
at the top of my head, but I'm sure he'll
find it if he hasn't already.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
There was no doubt in my mind that you were
going to say something like that. There was no doubt
in my mind that you were going to say, yeah, actually,
there's a there's a diner there then, and you got
to order the number four, but make sure you get
it with extra onions or something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's this. This is the kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That I rely uh in my life that when I
am driving through uh, the bustling metropolis of Burnett, that
you know exactly where I should go.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, you know, listen, it's it's no real trick to
tell people to hit the Bluebondy Cafe and Marble Falls
or to you know, or to go to you know
some of those plates. You and Ashley Pickle were the
ones that educated me on the place down of McCallum
with the bou Thomas platter you know, yes, yeah, when
we went.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Down to the Rio Grand Valley that was those Those
are trips. Those are trips where you you there's almost
pressure on fixing the right place to eat because like
you're down there and and there's so many good there's
so many good options. Make sure you don't screw it up,
you know what I mean. Right, It's kind of like
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if you're if you're the number one team in the
nation and you welcome in like a team that's that's
gonna finish ninth in the in the whack, and it's
like fourteen thirteen and a half. Like, then the pressure's
on you, you know, so, same thing when you go
to El Paso or the Rio Grand Valley or any
of these outstanding food locales in the state.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, you better make sure you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, you always like to tell the story of
of you mining your own business and in your company
of people. When we were all at coaching school in
Houston a few years back, and you're sitting out on
a patio and I go rolling up on the side and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I had Linda with me, and I rolled down the wind, I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like, hey, house of pies, and you literally leaped over
the gate and went running into the car.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I abandoned. I abandoned my colleagues and my company. At
that point, I get and pie.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
So Red Teppers. But let's start with the college thing.
I want to get your thoughts for people in these
parts who remember watching Quinton Joyner just as like they
remembered watching College Brooks when they were both main or Mustangs. Uh,
that sort of thing. It hits home pretty well, and
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it obviously hits Texas Tech hard and home with him
being out and Mike Craven, you know, reported the story
that so many others jumped on later.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That is a tough break for Texas Tech. My question
to you it is.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
How does it shape your view and that of Mike's,
of of the Red Raiders in terms of you talked
about this being a big year in terms of what
could be out there. Uh, certainly for Joey McGuire's teeth.
How does this affect it?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, let's let's be real clear
that like Quentin Joyce, what we're gonna say is is
all against the backtop of Quentin Joyner was undoubtedly the
most talented running back on the campus and and undoubtedly
a guy who's going to be on a short list
of guys who could be an all big twelve type
running back. You know, the USC transfer an opportunity to
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come home in the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, a manor guy I know he was. He
was really excited to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The is now going to be Okay, We're going to
see exactly how much depth these guys have Now they
have some they had, Tech has some running backs that
they feel really good about. Cameron Dickey is a guy
that they're they're excited about. Uh, tex Tags Wolfans may
remember the name of Jacoby Williams, who was such a
star at Beckville before he went on to Texas Tech.
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They're gonna have to be thrust into bigger roles and
and and you know, look, it was going to happen
at some point that they were going to have some
sort of injury that was going to test their depth.
I think Joey McGuire would prefer it didn't happen, you know,
ten days.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Before the opener, but.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It was going to happen at some point the the
I think a lot of this is going to come
back to as as we've talked about, it's going to
come back to quarterback play. It's going to come back
to whether or not they feel like they've got the
right quarterback this year. And and you know, they feel
like they do in Baron Morton. We'll find out now
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that's just one fewer safety net for him and and
and I think that you will find out really quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think I'm very interested, especially in that Week one
game against Arkansas Pine Bluff, which should be an easy
win for Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
See how well they can install a running game with
their RB two. They will have an opportunity to stretch
it out and to try some things and to get
guys up to speed. You know, the good thing for
them is that, you know, Week one feels like gonna
be gonna be a should be a relatively easy win.
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But you got to make sure you go out there
and see what you can now milk out of this
running game that is going to be playing with one
arm tied tied back.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, that's a fair thing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And I would also say, and you talked about the
folks who follow Texas high school football, by I'm going
to tell you this, and you know this, folks that
followed AISD football around here, remember Cameron Dickie really well
when he was like mister everything for Crockett, and he
really needed to be when he was there and leading.
He played quarterback, he played in the secondary, he was
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he was all over the place for Derek Norton's team.
And he's a virtual athlete, I guess, is what I'm saying.
So maybe he fits into that mold of what you're
talking about what they can do with the running back
and what they can use him by getting him the
football in space. Yeah, ironically, by losing a guy like
Quentin Joyner. They are now going to three into a
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bigger role guys who historically taking on a huge role
in the offense has not necessarily been been all that,
you know, strange for them, right, you know Jacoby Williams
did everything for them at Beckfill. Right, You're exactly right
that Cameron Dicky did everything for them at Crockett. And
so now the test is going to be for Mac
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Leftwich to go out there and say, Okay, what can
you guys do best? How can we establish you know,
work both of you guys in I don't I will
just say this, I think that you've got to now
view Texas Tech more as running back by committee. Maybe
Cameron Dickey goes out there and shows out and runs
for thre hundred yards and he's he was gonna be
the guy all along. But now it's going to be
running back by committee, and it's going to be up
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to Mac left which I think to press the right
buttons with these guys and and and feel like they
can kind of plug and plug and play uh and
and kind of exacerbate the things that they do well.
Especially with the loss of what was going to be
a bellcow running back. It's an interesting dynamic because here
here's where I'm going with this. Obviously Mac left left
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Wich enjoy McGuire on a larger scale probably feel that
what they have up front in terms of their offensive
line can make it work no matter who the running
back is. But when you lose somebody of the talent
of Joiner who had transferred in it from USC, then
obviously it gives you some pause. But I put what
they're thinking about in a similar context to what down
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and here in Austin with Sark and his coaching staff
with what they could do with CJ. Baxter Andrey Weisner
doing even a healthy Christian Clark, what they could do
there because of the the multiple variations of what they
can do with the running back based on the performance
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of your offensive lineup front.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, I think that you're spot on that this is
going to be a real test. I think for how
much Mac left Which trusts his offensive line, because essentially
a standout run a mediocre offensive line and make them
look great. But if you you know, if you're going
to have a if you have a great offensive line
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kind of matter, it matters. But but certainly there are
a fewer penalties I would say for getting an injury
back there, and so yeah, a lot of this is
going to fall on the offensive line and a lot
of it is going to fall on Baron Morton to
make throws and make them respect the passing game enough
that you're not going to have defenses load up the
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box and say, well, we don't got to worry about
this run this passing game.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We know that we can do this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This is losing a guy like Quentin Joyner makes it
so that all of the other pieces of the offense,
the offensive line, the quarterback, the receivers, that the tight ends,
they all have to step up in a bigger way
and we will see. This is like the first real
test here for Mac Leftwich offensive coordinator to see if
he is ready for the prime time there at the
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Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's great, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So one of the other things that's previewed in the
magazine and you also get to it and the staff
does on the website also is the FCS thing. And
when I saw an early season FCS ranking, I expected
to see Tarlton in there, and I did. And I
expected to see abling Christian in there, and I did.
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I don't know that I was expecting to see Stephen F.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Austin.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But there they are and and so I mean the
state of Texas seems to be well represented at the
FCS level as well as what's going on with the
FBS level.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, it's it's actually going to be, in my opinion,
a really strong year potentially in the in the FCS
ranks within the state of Texas. And you're right, you know,
Tarleton's a team coming off of a ten win season.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We've got really high hopes for them.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But I think that you know, in the past, Texas,
the state of Texas has normally had one, maybe two
SCS teams that have really broken through. I think there's
as many as three, four five FCS teams that could
really make some noise this year. Obviously, Tarleton, I think
ablein Christian has an opportunity to be really, really good.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Steven F. Austin, I left UIW two.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Incarnate Word I think is the team that the Incarnate
Word is going to be like everyone's favorite FCS team
because they just score like a ton. Clint keelow Is
is like just an offensive you know, guru and an
offensive wizard, and and this is a opportunity I think
for them to really Shine. But between them, between you
know Austin talking with Kolbe Kurfel, they're really fired up
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about what they've got going on out there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
In the woods.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
This is a deep year in the FCS, and it's
going to make the Southland Conference race really interesting. Uh,
it is going to to make all of these FCS
races really interesting. I would also say along those same lines,
there's there's great storylines in the f CS. I think
both of the swack teams within the state. Uh, whether
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you're talking about Texas Southern or Prayerview and them, I
think I think they are both on the upswing, which
is not something we've been able to say recently.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think both of them.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And then we get a new FBFCS team this year
in the debut of UTR GV, which opens up against
Soul Ross. I believe next Saturday, and you better believe
it's going to be a party in the Valley. They've
been they've been anxious for this, and uh, you know,
they've got a former Texas high school football coach and
Travis Bush at the helm. They've got a former Valley
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like all everything quarterback in Eddie Lee Marburger leading the way,
it is gonna.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Be really fun seeing there.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So yeah, I think I think it's It's one of
those things where you and I do this a lot
with high school where if you're if you're a fan
of Lake Travis, you're a fan of Westlake, it's easy
for you to get into that and stay into that.
But if you're only consuming that, you're missing a lot
of good football. You're missing three a football and two
a football, right, the same thing I think with college football.
If you're only paying with a longhorn, paying attention to longhorns,
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that's great. There're gonna be a lot of fun to watch.
And also there's a lot of other really good football,
even at the smaller classifications that I think are gonna
make this a really fun year. A fun year I
think in in college football holistically across the state.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Visiting with Greg Chapper, editor in chief Take Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine Art, we continue our state wide previews were
down to class to a and before we get into
talking about the favorites, I have to say I love
the piece that Carter Yates did on the cover. Boy
First of all, any kid, any running back that carries
the name HD Davis. That's a great running back name.
I just I just think it's a good story. And
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he happens to play for the Wolf City Wolves, so
that's pretty cool too.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and he's I mean, you want to talk about
putting a Texas high school football team like on the map,
I mean Wolf City. I want to say this as
respectfully as possible. Wolf City kind of qualifies as one
of those just another Texas high school football team.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know, they've had big years here and there.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Back in twenty eighteen they had a good year, and
two you know two that and six they had a
good year. But like you know, every so often they'll
crop up and have a great year. But this is
not some powerhouse at the two A level. But they
have a remarkable running back in HD Davis and a
guy who's going to be smashing every record in Wolf
City history by the end, by the time his career
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is over. It's a remarkable story and he's a guy
who I think he just kind of like an old
school running back, which is kind of the places that
you can see this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I made this.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I made this comment when when the Sugarland Express Ken
Hall passed away earlier this year that I said that,
I think his career mark is probably gonna get overtaken.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He has the career rushing record and I'll probably get
overtaken it, and it'll be a guy like hd Davis,
which is a small school guy that they're going to
hand the ball off to thirty five times a game
and he's gonna end up with two hundred and seventy
yards per game or something like that. That's the way
that that record is going to fall. I think HGD
Davis probably got started a little bit too late, but
I think that that is that's how it's gonna happen.
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And he's just a true old school running back that
you know what's coming and you still don't know how
to stop it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Well, And to your point about them being kind of
a you know, in many folks minds, just another program,
Carter wrote that historically they're about a five hundred program,
like four sixty five or sixty three and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Thirty one, that kind of thing. The other thing, and
I this.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Is my own personal theory I've carried for years and
you've heard me say it on the Scoreboard Show in
the past. Wolf City resides in what I like to
call a black hole. It's seventy miles northeast of Dallas,
so it's out of the coverage area of DFW kind
of maybe falls in the Texoma Sherman Dennison area if
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they've got time to go out there, but usually doesn't
have that much time to do it, so they go
largely unnoticed. Same thing with other parts. It used to
say that about San Angelo. In between here and there
in different places, there's some regions of the state that
don't come in for other than what you guys do
in covering. It doesn't come in for regular weekly video
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and television type coverage, so they slide under the radar
a little bit. And Wolf City's one of those Yeah,
you're black hole is a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
They are they are just they're in between all of
these major these these major media markets, and so as
a result, like nobody ends up covering it, and and
this the same thing happens, uh kind of like you know,
it'll happen kind of in parts of like just north
of the Brasses Valley, there's kind of an area around
there where where there's not anybody there. You're exactly right,
like like there's parts of the Concho Valley that don't
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get a ton of coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Even there's another one.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'll give you another one, Yoakam that that that south
central Texas area kind of between Austin, San Antonio and Houston,
but none of those markets really step up and pick
them up until all their area teams are exhausted in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, it's it's one of those things like if I
made the point earlier like that, if Alice ever got
really good, it would be a real interesting thing thing
to see, Like who's going to hop on the Alice
panel because because they're they're they're not the Rio Grand Valley,
it certainly not, and they're probably outside of the San
Antonio cover. But you're exactly right, And that's what I
think gives us an opportunity to like shine a light
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on these guys and why I think in high school
football you can still find these hidden gyms.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Now with the point with college football and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
The media saturation there is, if there's a great player,
there's gonna be a lot of ink about them.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They're still guys who fly.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Under the Texas high school football and I think HD
Dave is a perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Example one, Yeah, yeah, I no doubt about.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Okay, your Division one preseason pick is refei O, as
we do the two A period and Munster Division two pick.
Both these teams have won championships and at last in
at least recent years. Same thing with Ganado obviously a
defending state title in D one and Shiner we've seen
their Pedigrandy two.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The familiar what do you say, usual suspects near the
top of the two A Division one and Division two picks.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, I'd say, so, you know, we don't go with
the defending champs in Canado this year in two A
Division one, they got hammered by graduation. I mean, when
you're in Gannado, Texas and you graduate eighteen seniors, that's
a lot of players who are a lot of talent
whos walking out the door, including bright all mister everything
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for them last year in the run of that state
championship game. We what Refurio brings back, especially from the
speed perspective, you know, if they can find especially if
they can kind of settle in on an identity of
more balanced offensively, because I think what ended up happening
and what's ended up biting them in the past is
they've gone really, really, really run heavy. If they can
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find a passing game, that's when they really get dangerous.
But to a Division one's fascinating because you do have
Canado kind of lurking there.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
This is a year I'm all in on Wascomb.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I think Wascom has an opportunity to rise up there,
but they're gonna have a huge challenge within Region three
of Garrison, who were really high up. This is a
team that brings back a ton from last year's team.
And then the other thing that I think is really
great about this year into a Division one is that
you've got regional balance in a lot of ways. Got
great teams in Region four. Region three we mentioned you
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have Wascom and Garrison. Region one always loaded Stamford a
state finalists from a year ago. Panhandle figures would be
really good per mystery box. Region is always Region two,
which you may remember was one by the Hamilton Bulldogs
last year between Hamilton between Dillyon between Axtel between the
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aforementioned Wolf City two a Division one region. Region two
is I think my favorite region because it's just like
it's the anonymous region. It's the somebody whos got to
win a region, which makes well, which will make that
really fun. And then you mentioned two A Division two
and Munster starts the years a number one. They have,
in my opinion, the best player in two A and
case and Karney and you and I were on the
call of the state championship game last year, and a
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guy that they toward the end they just built the
whole plane out of case In Karney and said take
us home, big fella, and he did, and he's back
for another year. It's they do have some pieces that
they need to replace, you know. Most notably they're gonna
have to replace some guys on the offensive line, which
is something Munster's always hung their hat on. Shiner brings
back a fairmount from last year, State finalists again from
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last year. But the team that either there's two teams
that I really want to get people thinking about. One
of them is Bremond. You may remember back in the
shot All Days where they went with the three peat
and one of the most remarkable players. They are back
in a big, big way. Brimon looks really really good.
The other one, this is more recent, but after a
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year away, Albany is gonna be a problem again. Albany
took some lumps last year by their standards by going
nine to three, but they bring back They bring back
sixteen starters, they bring back twenty of their twenty seven lettermen,
and you give Denny faith an experienced ball club and
he is gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Make some hay.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I'm really interested in what in what they end up
doing because I think that, you know, especially Albany and Munster,
really fun to watch, and especially with these small schools
where you can get big surprises if some team's got
some freshmen we've never heard of, or some sophomore we've
never heard of. That's what makes two Edivision two really interesting.
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But Munster, I think starts as the deserves favorite.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Greater Rostinner doesn't have many in the two A ranks,
but but sake to say the best one of the
bunch is probably Granger.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I actually really like what Granger's been able to put together.
This is a team that I think the build there
has been really steady and consistent, and they have done
I think an excellent job of kind of giving them
entity and what you know, Gaston McDorman has done. Now
entering his second season taking over for Cal Netherland. This
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is a this is a program there and Granger that
I think could be ready for that leap fifteen starters back.
They got a running back Caleb Hobbs Hobbs Ratch I
think is his name, who is a playmaker. They're gonna
be really fun to watch and I'm interested to see.
You know, Region four is obviously going to be I think,
very difficult at all. Roads are going to eventually lead through,
(23:48):
you know, eventually going to lead through you know, some
of the very best teams. But I think that when
you take a look at what they've been able to do,
they can go toe to toe with.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The teams like Junction and Fall City.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Shiner is the king there, but they can go and
I think they have an opportunity to really make a
deep run, especially they can find a little bit of
help defensively.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's Greg Temper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
And and next week, of course, is game week, and
we get all fired up, but we also get to
do a six man preview.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yes, Yes, we're gonna We are gonna sit here and
we're gonna go game by game of Klondike we're gonna
go game by game. We're gonna predict the record for
the Cougars of Klondike.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's what we're doing next week.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's that's a tease often right offen olphen Pawnee.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They're up next. Yeah, all right, hey, thanks to appreciate it.
See you guys. All right. That's Greg Temper Dave Campbell's
Texas Football magazine
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