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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good after it.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, Welcome to the program here on sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone. My name is Craig Waite. Glad
to have you with us here on a Tuesday. And
I think, like I said, that we'd established that post pandemic,
Tuesday has become the most difficult day to commute because
I think coming out of the pandemic, a lot of
folks decided Monday was a good day for working at
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home since they got kind of used to that during
the pandemic. So traffic is downloaded on Monday. I notice
it really going home more so even than coming in.
Tuesday can be Boy, it can be a rough go.
So hopefully it goes all right for you today and
all right for us. US, of course includes the producer
of the program. He is back from south of the border,
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and I don't mean the tourist trap destination on the
North Carolina state line.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's back from the nation of Mexico. Cameron D. Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
The D on the birth certificate stands for Dallas as
in his favorite pro football team, which when he left
town was losing preseason games and not having Micah Parsons
under contract. He's returned and they're still losing preseason games
and they don't have Micah Parsons under contract. But welcome home.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Anyway, Thank you, CREKT afternoon. And you mentioned the tourist
trap on the North Carolina South Carolina borders.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
South of the Border. Are you speaking of Caroins or no, no, no, no, no,
Now that's it. That's a theme park and also a
tourist trap. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now there's one on I ninety five right where North
Carolina where you cross into South Carolina's called South of
the Border. It was started in the fifties by this guy,
and it's it's kind of like what the kitchen hotels
you would see on Route sixty six back in the day,
and you know all the curio stores and stuff like that,
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and a tower you can walk up in that have
a giant sombrero at the top. So it was called
South of the Border because just south of the North
Carolina South Carolina state line.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Because when you think of South Carolina North Cointe, you
think of some breiros.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And automatically just it just comes to mind. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, so uh anyway, uh so you're back from Mexico.
You went down for a wedding, not yours, right, no,
nobddy no, no oh. I thought I thought you were
going down for a wedding, that is uh. I know
you got I know you got one next month. I
thought you were going for a wedding in Mexico. That's
what I said two or three times. Sorry about that. No, No,
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you just went with.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Friends down to Mexico. Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I have some friends who have family actually in Mexico
City and they love going down there. And you know,
of course, wanted to get away one last time before
my friends don't see me for the next you know,
eight months, right, football season starts all the way through basketball, baseball.
I'll tell you what. Traffic in Austin's pretty bad. It
does not hold a candle or the flame to the
candle of the traffic in Mexico City. Holy cow, it's
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a mess. It's it's it's a mess.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Say you got over twenty million people there, it's going
to be a little crowded, right.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So, even even yesterday when it took because we flew
into San Antonio because the ticket airline tickets for some reason,
we're way cheaper than flying out of Austin. And even
though it took you know, two hours to get back
from San Antonio to Austin, in forty minutes to go
from Rumberg to round Rock, which is absolutely ridiculous because
it's less than ten miles. Like, okay, it's not as
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bad as Mexico City, but lovely city. The weather there
is about seventy degrees seventy five. It was ninety nine
when we landed, and we just came back from a
photo shoot down at DKR and we were it felt.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Like ninety seconds. We were sweating.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And those boys will be playing on that field and
have been playing and practicing and scrimmaging, and I don't know. Again,
I don't know how they do it, because we were
out there in just for an hour and we were dying.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, they're a lot younger than us, especially me. They
are in a lot better shape than us, especially me.
But yeah, it was just just standing out there taking pictures.
And I will also tip my hat to the show
ban of the same Southwest Loghorn bands out there going
through some walk through and rehearsal things and stuff like that.
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And again young people, but still it's just it's very
hot out there. So let's help people to stay hydrated,
stay cool, see if you can do that. On the
program this afternoon, we're going to hear more from Loghorn's
head coach, Steve Sarkisian We're here and talk about Ohio
State's choice of Julian Sayan as their starting quarterback and.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Other developments of the team.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Sark went back to back on his media availabilities.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He did that on.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Saturday following the scrimmage, and we heard those comments yesterday,
and then we'll hear more.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
From him today.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Tomorrow, we'll hears some player availability stuff, but Sark will
be done until after the final scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Camp's scrimmage on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
For all intents and purposes, fall camp is in the books,
but now it's transitioning. Even though obviously the season has
it started yet, we're eleven days prior to kickoff. If
you notice from our friend CB, it's like it's major
Apple White Days kickoff, you know, eleven days out the
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you know, they're still transitioning into the period of ramping
up for kickoff. So while you may say, well, listen,
fall camp going on, the camp part of it kind
of has broken up a little bit now that classes
to day was the first day classes too, right on campus,
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and we ran into traffic there.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It was almost Mexico City style traffic.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Trying to get in and out of the Brass's parking
garage today, you know. So so that was that was
in play as well. So but we will hear from
start today. We do have inconceivable.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
If you like coffee, I hope it's not a specific
kind and I don't mean brand a specific kind of
coffee because it might not be very good for your health.
The latest studies come out.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Fortunately it doesn't really seem to affect nearly as many
Americans as it does Brits. But but well that's just
part of the inconceivable, and there's some other crazy things
that are going on with Brits. Well, drink coffee at all, Yeah,
they do tea is in the afternoon later, but they
drink coffee in the morning, certainly tea. You know, they
take that tea break in the afternoon. I would suggest
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that we could do the same here, except it's too
damn hot.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So that's why I'm drinking water all the time now
and just hold on here for a zep and just
to just to stay hydrated.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I have to ask you a question, by the way,
when you were in Mexico, did you play golf?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Did not know? We looked at it.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Golf is not a very there's not a well, I
mean there is golf, of course in Mexico, especially you know,
Cabo Cancuo in Mexico City not really a golf destination.
There's a few courses, but I mentioned you know, it
takes about an hour ago anywhere in that city. So yeah,
it was mostly just we did all the touristy things
in Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So unfortunately, no golf. Okay, all right, you did the
touristy things. Did you did you go to the monument
for the youth who were trying to hold back the
United States forces and the America Mexican American War of
eighteen forty six eighteen forty eight. It was really cool.
I haven't been there, but a lady, is it? Well,
that's called monuments that there's one with the like they
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were like teenage boys that we're trying to hold down
a cliff a fort, you know, and keep from the
attacking Americans. And there's a uh, there's a monument to
it when when when the US forces went in and.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Tokay, Monumento Ninos Heros.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's not go to that one. Okay, go to that one. Okay,
all right, but you went to you went, you did
some other ones then we did.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We went to the pyramids and Tiotaquan Pyramid at the Sun.
There's there's used to be three pyramids. There's only two,
and only one of them you can actually climb up
like halfway. Yeah, that was fun. We did the floating
river in a town that I can't pronounce and will
not try and pronounce.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, that was fun.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Went to the Mexico City Library, Okay, very fine. Establishment
what else did we do a lot of tacos? I
think I had twenty tacos? That was my count from.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Did you uh? Did you drink the water?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
No, sait away bottle water only, unless you count misscal
and tequila, which I did enjoy some some fine tequila
and mescal in Mexico City, But no, no water strayed
away from it, bottled water only. Even even in our
airbnb they kind of had like water water filters and
my friends you know, who have family there and I
spent time there, like yeah, no, just don't touch it,
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don't don't touch it with the bottled stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The reason why I asked you about golf, I need
some help with something. Okay, while you're away, Like we said,
some of the some of the regular things continue to happen,
like the Cowboys and the impass when my caparsa all
that continues. Another thing that continues to happen happen while
you were away, and that was Scotti Scheffler winning a
golf train and what a job he did, and coming
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from behind to winning the BMW championship. He was down
five shots at the midway point, he was down four
shots after the third round.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
By the time they got the fifth.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Old, he had caught Robert McIntyre and then passed him.
And then, of course I think, I don't know, some
people might have a different thing in mind. I think
it was the shot of the year on the pro
Goff circuit at number seventeen with that eighty two foot
pitch in for birdie on the par three. So so
he wins again. And here's where I'm going with this.
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I had Bob Blue in here doing the music survey
last Friday, and how was that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's great and we had and we had and we
had a lot of fun and we talked.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
We talked from golf and talked about his podcast with
Bat Brown and Vince Young and we but he was
unable to answer this question that I have been unable
to answer. So I want to ask it to you. No, boy,
So the Tour Championship is this week in Atlanta, right.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I believe it's the twentieth iteration. No.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Sorry, now we're about maybe sixteen or fifteen. Okay, here's
my question. If Scotty Scheffler does not win the Tour
Championship this week, is he still the FedEx Cup Champion?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
No? Okay, So it's not like.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It used to be when it was weighted, when he
had the points lead or given three shots or anything
like that. We kind of figured that wasn't in play anymore.
It's the same format as NASCAR now with the playoffs.
Whereas Chase Eli could win every fifteen of the final
sixteen races, but number sixteen is won by Kyle Larson,
then Kyle Larson is your NASCAR Cup Champion. If Roy
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McElroy wins this week, he is your FedEx Cup Champion.
Even though in terms of points one Scotty Scheffler's I
believe twenty thousand points ahead of Roy McRoy. Now, how
do we actually kind of justifiesify that it's an issue
that once again throughout this week there will be more
conversation and more stories Craig leading up to the Tour
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Championship about the format of the tournament than the tournament itself.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Is what tells you maybe it's broken.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Imagine if the week before the super Bowl was about
how do we fix the super Bowl? Probably tells you
it's not a great product. This entire week will probably
be about how do we fix the Tour Championship. Because
we can all agree, right, Scotti scheffer has been the
best golfer in the world this year. He should be
your FedEx Cup champion player.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And by the way, that's what Bob Blue said that
he said, regardless regardless of who wins the Tour Championships,
Scotty Scheffler will be the Golfer of the Year. Yeah,
he'll win the Golf of the Year award. So what
is the Golfer the Year award in relation.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To the FedEx Cup Championship. That's my question.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's like winning the MVP Award, Right, you get a
trophy and I don't know if you get any money
with it. I think it actually, I think it's voted
on by the players. Okay, so it may not mean
anything at all the Scotty Scheffler or the Roy McRoy,
But I mean, I think I understand where you're going
with this, and I agree it's a very flawed system
because if if Scotty does not win this week, we're
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going to look back at twenty twenty four, year in twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Twenty four, twenty five.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, look like at twenty twenty five, and we're gonna
see all the wins Scotty Scheffer had and then oh
fed X Cup champion was Victor Hovlin.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh okay, well that's weird.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Because you know, maybe Scotty just has a bad week,
you know, and he talks about it like, hey, if
what if his neck flaars up, what if he falls
down the stairs or something like.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That, cuts his hand again or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Exactly, and someone else wins, It's like, well, he was
by far the best player of the year. But again,
the PGA Tour wants to keep people interested in watching,
because if you were going off the standings right, it
would be impossible. It would have been over before they
even So what does the thing. What does this, if
it even matter, which then brings in a bigger question.
Craig is, does the FedEx Cup playoffs with the FedEx
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Cup champion even matter at all? The answer is probably no,
But at the same time you want to keep people watch.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Does it matter for a guy like Keigan Bradley with
regard to Ryder Cup position for him?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, because I think the standings are now finalized. But
if Keiking goes out and finishes like third, how do
you justify not putting him on the team. Right If
Mattverick McNeely goes out and finishes second or third or
fourth or Brian Harmon, then how do you justify leaving
them off the team? So I don't think it matters
in terms of the points. I think the final six
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or that the automatic invites have been solidified already and
now it's at the Keek and Radley the pick his
final six guys, and it's hard to justify Keigan not
picking himself for the team. But at the same time
that brings in another bigger question is can you have
a captain player? You know, because we have not seen
that in sports. It's been a while playing captain, right
I don't think we've ever had it at all.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I can't remember if we had on either side, So
all right, all right, So I would say this to you.
I see what you're doing with the NASCAR comparison, and
there's another comparison you.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Can make with those.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But golf will stand alone from the NFL, which has
its Super Bowl, or baseball, which has its World Series,
because because golf's major championships happened during its competitive season,
not at the end. That's where the problem comes in.
The Masters and the US Open, and the Open Championship
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of the PGA, those all happen those four major championships,
plus you have the Players Championship, and you have the
Tour Championship. You have all of those there those are
played before well, the Tour Championships the last event, but
even so the other ones are played prior to. So
that's where the rub comes in on this deal about
whether somebody is the best golfer in the world or
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the best you know, the number one ranked in points.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But all but he's not the FedEx Cup champion.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, and I think you know, whether it's it's NASCAR,
whether it's BJ Tour, that's tennis, right, I mean more
people care about you remembered more for the Wimbledons, you
wont you're more for the day to one of five hundred, yeah,
versus the actual individual championship. I couldn't tell you who
won the ATP Tour whatever it is. Who won the
championship last year? I don't know, but I can tell
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you more so who won the Wimbledon and the French Open.
And that's the same thing for golf. If I asked
my dad who he watches golf, he watched guy Jeffer Winn, Hey,
can you name the Fedix Cup champions He probably has
no idea that Bill hass won one. He has no
idea that Billy Horsechell won one because Billy Horsell just
had three good weeks of golf and in one of
FETs Cup Championship. So it just may not really matter.
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And maybe the bigger issue is like should we stop
pretending to really care.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
About the event.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And also the golf course sucks too, like they got
to get away from I think it's aac just that
course just as bad. Also, they're playing in Atlanta right now.
It's hot and humid like it is here. Those players
are not having fun playing in that tournament.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, that's why they moved the PGA out of August,
because it was hot as hell trying to play at
Southern Hills in Tulsa. It was brutal to be there
in August. Or say, you know, they played it at
Pecan Valley in San Antonio back at sixty eight and
all that anybody remembers other than I think I think
it was Julius Burrows.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Was that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Arnold Palmer talked about how miserable it was during that
whole time. And of course Ronold Palmer never won a
PGA and he got close to that. But it was
so hot, and it's happened at other places as well.
They played a pgat at at Colonial once and it's
just so incredibly oppressive in terms of the heat. All right, well, anyway,
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that pretty much answers my question. So Scotty, he's got
to win the thing. To win the FedEx Cup, I
think everybody will recognize him as the Brits like to say,
the champion golfer of the year, regardless of what happens there.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And by the way, he won the Open.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Anyway, All right, coming up, we're gonna hear from long one,
said coach Steve Sarkegeon.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
When we continue on thirteen hundred the zone, we.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Move on to the feedings forward today's program, starting with
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our man Chuck in Houston said, he said, I love
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Scheffler too, but people got to stop with the Tiger comparisons. Well,
what they're comparing right now is Scotty Scheffler is doing
things that no golfer has done since Tiger, and I
think those are fair. I'm with you, Chuck. I'm not
into the whole thing. But he's the greatest sense or
greater that's innocuous. I don't care for any of that.
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He is making his own mark, Scotty Schffler is, But
I do think it is to list the accomplishments that
he excuse me a little sneeze there that I think
it's fair to list the accomplishments that Scotti Scheffler is
doing as they relate to what Tiger. For example, the
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only the first golfer to win five or more events
in a year in back to back years since Tiger.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Tiger did it five consecutive years.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So I don't know if Scott's going to get their rivate,
but he's done it back to back heres, so that's
an example of it, Chuck.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I see what you're getting there.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I'd say, hey, obviously I'm not a follower of
golfer Maverick McNeely.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Man what a name. Yeah, it's McNeely mc n e
a l y Maverick McNeely. He's pretty good golfer too.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, And he's a hell of a match play player.
He played well in the the Walker Cup and like
their junior Ryder Cup format, and I think he would
be a great addition to the Ryder Cup team. And
he's a fantastic golfer. He's and kind of chomping at
the bit for a while and has had a fantastic year.
Believe you won earlier this season, maybe last year. And yeah,
he's got a's it's it's like a name out of
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Happy Gilmore, right, maverickneely.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Is it is indeed, or the former quarterback at San
Angelo Central who has been around to different teams and
he's still playing college football. Maverick McIver, he's still playing
mc ivery about Maverick Carter, Maverick Carter. There's another Yeah, absolutely,
all right. Uh, let's let's hear from Longhorn's head coach
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Steve Sarquis. Now this followed yesterday's workout, so we'll start
off with this opening statement.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Recap a little bit of Saturday. I thought that, uh,
what I thought with the naked eye kind of showed
up on tape was I felt like the the intensity,
the speed and the physicality definitely increased from the first
scrimmage to the second scrimmags Like you could even feel
it on the tape, the speed and the transition the
defense bre and on the ball, the the the runners
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receivers tight ends in the open field making cuts. So
that that part was was really encouraging that we're able
to continue to kind of raise our game as we go.
A couple of things to clarify that I've misspoke on
Saturday that the block field goals by hero Canoe. Actually
the two minute drive at the end was by Matt Caldwell.
And uh there actually was another turnover Santana Wilson had
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got a turnover in the red area on Trey Owens
on a pick. So I'm misspoken. We had a few
things going on right, uh so trying to trying to
watch a lot of stuff there. So all in all,
we're making good progress. I thought the guys came back
today with the right metal intensity to work. You know,
this is obviously a mock week for us, so this
is a kind of a pseudo Monday. You know, it's
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not all Ohio State. We're we're still we're still developing
a lot of players. But at the same token, we're
in the very beginning stages of what a game plan
would look like. So these guys can get a sense
and a feel for their routine, the way they prepare
and the way they so off to a good start.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, So speaking of those developing players, how does that
work in relation.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
To and juxtaposed to actual playing time.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, everybody practices for us, you know, we don't ever
sit guys in practice. You know that that's capable. So
you know, we two spot just about everything. And if
we don't two spot, I mean everybody's roll in ones,
twos or threes, and we'll even rotate those threes to
make sure everybody's practicing. Is I think even at the
end of the day, if a player is going to
be a Scout team player, we want to coach them
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and we want to develop them as best we can
because that's going to make them a better Scout Team
player for the offense or the defense. And they know
the value in that, and our players know the value
and that guy being a better player that way. So
we try to develop everybody. We try to get everybody
a ton of reps. And I think one thing that's
important in non conference games, I know you brought that up,
is that you know the ultimate goal, right is to
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go play well and win. A byproduct of that is man,
I sure would love to play as many players as
I can, but I don't lose sight of the main goal. First,
it's not like we just play guys and throw them
a bone because they deserve it if.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
They earn it in this episode, but when.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We can find opportunities to play as many players as
we can, especially early in the season. We try to
do that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Okay, all right, A lot of talk about the interior
of the defensive line?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Aren't we doing that every year? Every year? About?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Hey, are the guys that are going into those spots
for those guys who really did a great job like
Alfred Collins and Vernon Broughton last year and someone and
so for we're going back two guys who'd be listed
every year for the past few years. What about the
development and the race for playing time and the starting
positions and all that stuff for the interior of the
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defensive front.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
A lot of guys are doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You know, you touched on Hero, We touched on Marad Watson,
Alex January. I think Colbovard had a good day Saturday.
You know, we've seen flashes out of Travis Shaw. We're
striving for more consistency out of him. With Levon Johnson
is really just starting to get going with us now.
He was a little nicked up, so he's starting to
get going. So in the end, you know, I think
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I think we've got We've got a plethora of guys
in there that are that are earning playing time. You know,
we we've got a little time to find that exact
rotation right now, and that's that's part of the growth
and watching them work and how they can retain a
game plan and then execute it and practice and in
real settings where we're still going good on good, but
they've got to execute the plan. That's how we want
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to play it here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And then some specific guys Netomezulu and his progress.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You know, I think neda one of one of the
things he's great at is when he plays with a
real sense of physicality. Uh that that's his calling card,
you know. And then we're we're trying to make sure
that those other aspects of a game are still playing
at a consistent level. But it's like anything, man, when
when you when you've got a good fastball, you've got
to throw your good fastball. And and he his calling
card is the physicality and the intensity of which he
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plays the game. And all the while I wanted to
lose that as we're developing that the other work that
he's doing. So he's doing a nice job so far.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All right. And then one other thing.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Obviously, Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach, made the
announcement yesterday that Julian Saying would be the starting quarterback.
If you know Sark, you know, he's going to be
very familiar with him because they tried very hard to
get him to come to Texas. So Sark was asked
for his thoughts on Julian Saying being named the starting
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quarterback for that season opener for Ohio State against Texas
coming up in eleven days.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, a ton of respect for Julian. You know, we
recruited him hard here. He was a very gifted passer,
really good player, came to camp with us I think,
I want to say two years in a row, and
so we've got a lot of familiarity with him. And
obviously a California kid, his high school coach and whatnot.
So a very good player, elite passer, very good arm talent,
very quick release, really accurate guy. Obviously, he's got great
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weapons around him, and so you know he's the type
of guy that can utilize those ways weapons in a
good system.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So poses the heck of a challenge. All Right, We're
going to hear more from Sark next hour. Also next hour,
by the way our weekly conversation with Greg Tepper, the
editor in chief chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
We'll talk college football and then we'll continue our statewide
high school previews two A Class two A preview this week,
so we'll do that with tap coming up next hour
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afternoon on thirteen hunderd the Zone.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
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Speaker 2 (25:31):
Coming up in a few minutes, we'll talk football of
the collegiate and high school variety across this great state
of ours with Greg Tepper, the editor in chief of
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number one, Chucks asked me, can you give me your
ranking of SARK as of right now compared to all
long one coaches I mean a little difficult to do, Chuck,
but I get what you're saying because of what he's done.
You know, It's interesting after his first two years, which
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were five and seven and eight and five, he had
a record of thirteen wins and twelve losses. And I
remember this deal when the coaches came out that were
ranked in the SEC going in or last year of
the Big twelve, and he was he was down in
the lower part of that, and I said, it's just
so early to figure out. He's come back with twelve
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and two and thirteen to three, so he's been twenty
five and five the last two years. So now if
you look at it on the national scene and the
secs rated way highly up there, he's obviously done a
tremendous job. And I think probably what has been as
impressive as anything else is the fast rise of the
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development of talent uh here, And I think that's probably
been about as impressive as as anyone. I mean, obviously,
you know, Coach Royal is probably going to sit at
the top, you know, with three national titles and the wins,
and mac Brown is going to be right there. And
you know, uh Dana Bible had some great years coaching.
But you know, I would say probably that he's gonna,
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you know, he's going to rank right up there because
of what he's done to this point. But there's so
much out there still to do. And he'll be the
first to tell you that, uh, the same career path
I think as scottis Schucker. There you go, all right,
would you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Like right now?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I think if you like Dy, Scheffer isn't probably on
the Mount Rushmore golfers, right, He's not the grist of
all time, But if he can stay healthy for the
next ten twenty years, Same thing with Sark. If Sark
can you know is to still the head coach for
Texas football in ten years, and it probably tells you
he's probably on that level.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, because if he's still here ten from years from now,
then this program has won conference championships. By then, he's
won one in the Big twelve. They will have won
SEC championships and then and then the elusive national championship,
of which they certainly have a shot. The story and
inconceivable about the instant coffee affecting the possibility of macular degeneration,
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there's one says there are absolutely no negative side effects
of instant coffee sincerely Senka. Yeah, and not only Senka
instant with those freeze dried crystals whatever. Not only that
it was caffeine free. It was like ninety seven percent
caffeine free. Different than say a taste choice or even
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nactual house with instant coffee.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Actually I did a quick Google search. I have used
instant coffee before, like in protein chicks. Okay, but just
a little bit. Okay, but I haven't done that now long.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a cup
of instant they well anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, But other than that, you're good to go, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So I would just say, you know, just just be
mindful of how much of it a body consumes.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
There. The biggest thing about me with instant coffee was
I didn't think the taste was really that good. Yeah,
it always tasted funny, but it was just like I
need something to come. Yeah, yeah, get you going. Uh.
Somebody would say.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I would argue that the biggest change has been the
acquisition of young talent. Some of the recruiting classes during
the down years where cringeworthy. Yeah, but there were also
some great recruiting class John mcavi had some great recruiting
classes and then it did never never got over the
hump there. Charlie Strong had some good recruiting and Mac
Brown had some great classes. Yeah, it's not about I
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don't think it's the recruit part that's the first step.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
It's development. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The development thing is the next big piece, and it
certainly fell off in the years leading up to SARK.
So I am in agreement with the Texter about the
development of it. Yeah, it's big, and there was some
drop off in some of the recruiting, clearly the the
nine signing class and only it's all the experts say
it only takes one or two really off years to
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send the program spiraling downward, and that's kind of what happened.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Mack had the number two recruiting class in twenty twelve. Yeah,
And looking at Charlie Strong, was he his first year
as a twenty fourteen fourteen?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, is twenty sixteen class.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
He had top ten class in twenty fifteen and then
in twenty sixteen number seven. And we know about what
Tom Herman did too, he had a top five recruiting cop.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, so I think it's I think I think they
go hand in hand. I understand about the cringeworthy part.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
There were some of that, but some of the lack
of development of some of those guys was cringeworthy as well.
Somebody else it seems like Texas High school football is
going the way of their own transfer portal. Can the
kids just up and transfer with the parents transferring to Well,
that's the key, Todd is. You know, you have to
prove under UIL rules that you're not moving, not changing
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schools for athletic purposes, Okay, And that's where kids kind
of get where things get off right. You know, when
LBJ got the bust a couple of weeks, it wasn't
because of changing schools. It wasn't because of a parent
moving that there was some confusion about where the young
man was living when doctor Farney, when Bill Farney was
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the executive director of the oil and they have those
state Executive committee meetings about the kid's eligibility. Even ask
the young man, we're gee Thanksgiving dinner, and sometimes the
answer would reveal itself. Not always, but sometimes you would. Yeah,
the parent if you know, if if if a parent
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moves from say whatever, Georgetown to Lake Travis or or
moved to lakeway and a job has them over that way,
and that's you know, that's in a better standard of
living for them if they feel that's the case or whatever,
and they get you know, it's kind of hard to
argue with that.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The parents want to do that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
But if they are found who have moved for athletic purposes,
then that's an entirely different issue for that. Okay, let's
let's hear it just a little bit of Sark before
we get to the break here. And the next thing,
speaking of talent development as we were, and what Sark
and his staff are trying to get accomplished, the next
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thing is the teaching element. And Sark will tell you
that it's not just the coaches who are doing the
teaching that makes things work. It's that peer to peer
element of teaching that plays a big part.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, I think that's one thing that you Our program
has finally really grown into. I think it probably started
maybe two years ago to where there's a level of respect.
As competitive as our practices are, there's a level of
respect with the guy you're going up against. And you know,
I think back to Jake Major's and Birah Murphy and
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those battles that they used to have every day, but
then when it was done, they'd be off to the
side or walking off the field talking about, you know,
how this block occurred, or what Byron may have saw
on Jake and why it made him do a certain thing,
or you know. And you can go down the line
with a bunch of different players John A and Xavier
like these guys that have that relationship and they can
start to share thoughts and ideas of maybe what could
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make it a little bit better for the guy on
the other side. But to me, it starts with the
competitive spirit, but then with the competitive spirit the level
of respect for the guy across him, because he's trying
to get better too, and it's a two way street
working with one another. And if they both can do that,
guess who gets better overall us as a team. And
so I think when you can really understand that recognize that,
that's when the growth really starts to happen as a team.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
All Right, So there's some more from Sark. We'll hear
more from Sark this hour and next hour as well.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But up next we'll.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Talk football in This State with Greg Tepper, editor in
chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
When we continue on thirteen under the Zone.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
We hear from the iconic Willie Nelson at the three
o'clock I were rolling out some highwaymen for us there.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Because what in next week, Craig, you will be a
highwayman as well all the fine folks at Dave Campbell's
Texas Football.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know what, Listen, Greg Tepper to the editor in chief,
has already been doing that. He's already been making the rounds.
He already has his plans set up for the season
open and all that kind of stuff. You've already kind
of laid a little groundwork for your mini travels this year,
haven't you.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I've got a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
In the.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
One, I'm gonna be making my way out to Abilene
opening night. Where else better to spend it than stadium
for Iron Nelson versus Wolforth friendship and a nice Cross
regional opener.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Good way to get good.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Talent there in that one. And then I'm keeping a
lot of the rest of it open. Although Matt Stepp
has has bullied into I think it's a week we're
going to where we're going to Lindsey at Santo and
and that feels, that feels on brand for Matt step
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who picks a couple of games.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
That's he's the he's.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
A remarkable fellow because he's probably the only person in
the world who gets paid.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
And he could go to any high school football game.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
He wants, and so he could go to number one
versus number four every week if you want it to,
or number two versus number seven, and then he will
just drop a to heinous game on you, just out
of nowhere to be like, you know what, I've never
been to Meridian.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
So I guess I better go to Meridian. It's but
it's it's it's a unique, a unique illness.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That he has.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
There's a there's a I've forgotten the name of it,
but I'll bet you if he doesn't already know it,
he'll he'll discover it. There's a cafe in Santo that's
that's that's that's top flight, and I can't remember it
off the top of my head, but I'm sure he'll
find it if he hasn't already. There was no doubt
in my mind that you were going to say something
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like that. There was no doubt in my mind that
you were going to say yeah, actually there's a there's
a diner there and you got to order the number four,
but make sure you get it with extra onions or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That's this. This is the kind of thing that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I rely.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
In my life that when I am driving through uh,
the bustling metropolis of Burnett, that you know exactly where
I should go.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, you know, listen, it's it's no real trick to
tell people to hit the Bluebonny Cafe in Marble Falls
or to you know, or or to go to you
know some of those places. You and Ashley Pickle were
the ones that Edge catered me on the place down
McCallum with the bot Thomas platter you know.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Yes, yeah, when we went down the Rio Grand Valley
that was Those Those are trips. Those are trips where
you you there's almost pressure on fixing the right place
to eat because like you're down there and there's so
many good there's so many good options.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Make sure you don't screw it up, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Right, It's kind of like it's kind of like if
you're if you're the number one team in the nation
and you welcome in like a team, that's that's gonna
finish ninth in the in the whack, and it's like
fourteen thirteen and a half. Like then the pressure's on you,
you know. So, same thing when you go to El
Paso or the Rio Grand Valley or any of these
outstanding food locales in the state.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, you better make sure you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean, you always like to tell the story of
of you mining your own business and in your company
of people. When we were all at coaching school in
Houston a few years back, and You're sitting out on
a patio and I go rolling up on the side and.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I had Linda with me, and I rolled down the window.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'm like, hey, house of pies, And you literally leaped
over the gate and went running into the car.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
I abandoned.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I abandoned my colleagues and my company at that point
for getting pie.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
All right, so Greg Teppers, but let's start with the
college thing.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
For people in these parts who remember watching Quinton Joyner
just as like they remembered watching College Brooks when they
were both main or Mustangs.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Uh, that sort of thing. It hits home pretty well.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And it obviously hits Texas tech hard and home with
him being out and Mike Craven you know, reported the
story that so many others jumped on later.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Uh, that is a tough break for Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
My question to you it is, how does it shape
your view and that of Mike's, of of the Red
Raider in terms of you talked about this being a
big year in terms of what could be out there. Uh,
certainly for Joey McGuire's team. How does this affect it?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, let's let's be real clear
that like Quentin Joyance, what we're gonna say is is
all against the backtop of Quentin Joyner was undoubtedly the
most talented running back on the campus and and undoubtedly
a guy who's going to be on a short list
of guys who could be an all Big twelve type
running back. You know, the USC transfer an opportunity to
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come home in the state of Texas.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
You know, a manor guy I know he was. He
was really excited to do that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
That is now going to be Okay, We're going to
see exactly how much depth of these guys have. Now
they have some they have Tech has some running backs
that they feel really good about. Cameron Dicky is a
guy that they're they're excited about. Uh tex Tags Wolfans
may remember the name of Jacoby Williams, who was such
a star at Beckville before he he went on to
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Texas Tech. They're going to have to be thrust into
bigger roles and and and you know, look, it was
going to happen at some point that they were going
to have some sort of injury that was going to
test their depth. I think Joey maguire would prefer it
didn't happen, you know, ten days before the opener, but
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it was going to happen at some point the the
I think a lot of this is going to come
back to as as we've talked about, it's going to
come back to quarterback play. It's going to come back
to whether or not they feel like they've got the
right quarterback this year. And and you know, they feel
like they do in Baron Morton. We'll find out now
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that's just one fewer safety net for him and and
and I think that you will find out really quickly.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
I think I'm very interested, especially in that Week one
game against Arkansas Pine Bluff, which should be an easy
win for Texas Tech. I want to see how well
they can install an a running game with their RB two.
They will have an opportunity to stretch it out and
to try some things and to get guys up to speed.
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You know, the good thing for them is that, you know,
Week one feels like gonna be a should be a
relatively easy win. But you got to make sure you
go out there and see what you can now milk
out of this running game that is going to be
playing with one arm tied tied behind the back.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Well, that's a fair thing.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
And I would also say, and you talked about the
folks who follow Texas High school football by I'm going
to tell you this, and you know this, folks that
followed AISD football around here, remember Cameron Dickie really well
when he was like mister everything for Crockett and he
really needed to be when he was there and leading.
He played quarterback, he played in the secondary, he was
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all over the place for Derek Norton's team. And he's
a versaal athlete, I guess, is what I'm saying. So
maybe he fits into that mold of what you're talking
about what they can do with the running back and
what they can use him by getting him the football
in space.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Yeah, ironically, by losing a guy like Quentin Joyner, they
are now going to to a bigger role guys who
historically taking on a huge role in the offense has
not necessarily been been all that, you know, the strange
for them, right, you know Jacoby Williams did everything for
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them at Beckfill Right, You're exactly right that Cameron Dicky
did everything for them at Crockett. And so now the
test is going to be for Mac Leftwich to go
out there and say, Okay, what.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Can you guys do best?
Speaker 6 (42:33):
How can we establish you know, work both of you
guys in I don't I will just say this. I
think that you've got to now view Texas Tech more
as running back by committee. Maybe Cameron Dickey goes out
there and shows out new runs for three hundred yards
and he's he was gonna be the guy all along,
But now it's going to be running back by committee,
and it's going to be up to Mac left which
I think to press the right buttons with these guys
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and and and feel like they can kind of plug
and plug and play uh and and kind of exacerbate
the things that they do well, especially with the loss
of what was going to be a bellcow running back.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's an interesting dynamic because here's where I'm going with this.
Obviously Mac left Leftwich enjoy McGuire on a larger scale,
probably feel that what they have up front in terms
of their offensive line can make it work no matter
who the running back is. But when you lose somebody
of the talent of Joiner who had transferred in it
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from USC, then obviously it gives you some pause. But
I put what they're thinking about in a similar context
to what down and here in Austin with Sark and
his coaching staff with what they could do with CJ.
Baxter Andrey Weisner doing even a healthy Christian Clark, what
they could do there because of the multiple variations of
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what they can do with the running back based on
the performance of your offensive lineup front.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Yeah, I think that your spot on that this is
going to be a real test. I think for how
much Mac left Which trusts his offensive line because essentially
a standout run a mediocre offensive line and make them
look great.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
But if you you know.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
If you're gonna have a if you have a great
offensive line, kind of matter. It matters, but certainly there
are there are a fewer penalties I would say for
for getting an injury back there. And so yeah, a
lot of this is going to fall on the offensive
line and a lot of it is going to fall
on Baron Morton to make throws and make them respect
the passing game enough that you're not going to have
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defenses load up the box and say, well, we don't
got to worry about this run this passing game.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
We know that we can do this.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
This is losing a guy like Quentin Joyner makes it
so that all of the other pieces of the offense,
the offensive line, the quarterback, the receivers, that the tight ends,
they all have to step up in a bigger way
and we will see. This is a like the first
real test here for Mac Leftwich offensive coordinator, to see
if he is ready for the prime time there at
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Speaker 1 (46:02):
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Speaker 2 (46:03):
So one of the other things that's previewed in the
magazine and you also get to it, and the staff
does on on the website also is the FCS thing.
And when I saw an early season FCS ranking, I
expected to see Tarleton in there, and I did, and
I expected to see Ablene Christian in there, and I did.
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I don't know that I was expecting to see Stephen F. Austin,
but there they are. And and so I mean, the
state of Texas seems to be well represented at the
FCS level as well as what's going on with the
FBS level.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
Yeah, it's it's actually going to be, in my opinion,
a really strong year potentially in the in the FCS
ranks within the state of Texas. And you're right, you know,
Tarleton's a team coming off of a ten win season.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
We've got really high hopes for them.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
But I think that you know, in the past, Texas,
the state of Texas has normally had one, maybe two
SCS teams that have really broken through. I think there's
as many as three four five FCS teams that could
really make some noise this year. Obviously Tarleton, I think
Ablen Christian has an opportunity to be really, really good.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Steven F. Austin, I.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Incarnate word, I think is the team that the Incarnate
word is gonna be like everyone's favorite FCS team because
they just score like a ton. Clint Keelo Is is
like just an offensive uh you know, guru and offensive
Wizard and and this is a opportunity I think for
them to really shine. But between them, between you know
Austin talking with Kolbe Kurfel, they're really fired up about
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what they've got going on out.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
There in the woods.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
This is a deep year in the f CS, and
it's going to make the Southland Conference race really interesting. Uh,
it is going to to make all of these FCS
races really interesting. I would also say along those same lines,
there's there's great storylines in the f CS.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
I think both of.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
The swack teams within the state, whether you're talking about
Texas Southern or Prayer View, and I think I think
they are both on the upswing, which is not something
we've been able to say recently.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
I think both of them.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
And then we get a new fb FCS team this
year in the debut of UTR GV, which opens up
against Soul Ross. I believe next Saturday, and you better
believe it's going to be a party in the Valley.
They've been they've been anxious for this and uh, you know,
they've got a former Texas high school football coach and
Travis Bush at the helm. They've got a former Valley
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like all everything quarterback in Eddie Lee Marburger leading the way.
Speaker 5 (48:34):
It is going to be really fun seeing there.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
So yeah, I think I think it's It's one of
those things where you and I do this a lot
with high school where if you're if you're a fan
of Lake Travis, you're a fan of Westlake, it's easy
for you to get into that and stay into that.
But if you're only consuming that, you're missing a lot
of good football. You're missing three a football and two
a football, right. The same thing I think with college football.
If you're only paying with a Longhorn, pay attention to
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the Longhorns, that's great. There're gonna be a lot of
fun to watch. And also there's a lot of other
really good football even at the smaller classifications that I
think are gonna make this a really fun year. A
fun year I think in college football holistically across the state.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Visiting with Greg Tapper, editor in chief Take Campbe's Texas
Football magazine, Aright, we continue our state wide previews for
down to Class to A and before we get into
talking about the favorites, I have to say I love
the piece that Carter yates did on the cover.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
First of all, any kid, any running back that carries
the name H. D. Davis, that's a great running back name,
I just think. And it's a good story.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
And he happens to play for the Wolf City Wolves,
so that's pretty cool too.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
Yeah, and he's I mean, you want to talk about
putting a Texas high school football team like on the map,
I mean Wolf City. I want to say this as
respectfully as possible. Wolf City kind of qualifies as one
of those just another Texas high school football team.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
You know, they've had big years here and there.
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Back in twenty eight team they had a good year,
and and too you know two and six they had
a good year. But like you know, every so often
they'll crop up and have a great year. But this
is not some powerhouse at the two A level. But
they have a remarkable running back in HD Davis and
a guy who's gonna be smashing every record in Wolf
City history by the end, by the time his career
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is over.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
It's it's a remarkable story. And and he's a guy.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
Who I think he just kind of like an old
school running back, which is kind of the places that
you can see this type of thing.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
I made this.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
I made this comment when when the Sugarland Express Ken
Hall passed away earlier this year, that I said that
I think his career mark is probably gonna get overtaken.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
At some point.
Speaker 6 (50:43):
He has the career rushing record, and I'll probably get
overtaken it, and it'll be a guy like hd Davis,
which is a small school guy that they're gonna hand
the ball off to thirty five times a game and
he's gonna end up with two hundred and seventy yards
per game or something like that. That's the way that
that record is gonna fall. I think Hddavi's probably got
started a little bit too late, but I think that
that is that's how it's going to happen. And he's
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just a true old school running back that you know
what's coming and you still don't know how.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
To stop it. Well.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
And to your point about them being kind of a
you know, in many folks mind is just another program,
Carter wrote that historically they're about a five hundred program,
like for sixty five, for sixty three and thirty one,
that kind of thing. The other thing, and I this
is my own personal theory I've carried for years and
you've heard me say it on the Scoreboard show in
the past. Wolf City resides in what I like to
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call a black hole. It's seventy miles northeast of Dallas,
so it's out of the coverage area of DFW kind
of maybe falls in the Texoma Sherman Dennison area if
they've got time to go out there, but usually doesn't
have that much time to do it, so they go
largely unnoticed. Same thing with other parts. He used to
say that about San Angelo. In between here and there
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in different places. There's some regions of the state that
don't come in for other than what you guys do
in covering. It doesn't come in for regular weekly video
and television type coverage, so they slide under the radar
a little bit. And Wolf City's one though. Yeah, you're
black hole is a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
They are.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
They are just they're in between all of these major
these these major media markets, and so as a result,
like nobody ends up covering it, and this the same
thing happens, uh kind of like you know, it'll happen
kind of in parts of like just north of the
Brasses Valley, there's kind of an area around there where
where there's not anybody there. You're exactly right, Like like
there's parts of the Concho Valley that don't get a
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ton of coverage.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Even there's another one.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'll give you another one, Yoakam that that south central
Texas area kind of between Austin, San Antonio and Houston,
but none of those markets really step up and pick
them up until all their area teams are exhausted in
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
Yeah, it's it's one of those things like if I
made the point earlier like that, if Alice ever got
really good, it would be a real interesting thing.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
Things see, like who's going to hop on the Allice.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
Panel because because they're they're they're not in the Rio
Grand Valley certainly not, and they're probably outside of the
San Antonio cover.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
But you're exactly right.
Speaker 6 (53:08):
And that's what I think gives us an opportunity to
like shine a light on these guys and why I
think in high school football you can still find these
hidden gyms. Now with the point with college football and
the media saturation there is, if there's a great player,
there's gonna be a lot of ink about them. They're
still guys who fly under the Texas high school.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
Football, and I think HD Dave is a perfect example one.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, yeah, I no doubt about.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Okay, your Division one preseason pick is Referrao as we
do the two A period and Munster Division two pick.
Both these teams have won championships and at last in
it at least recent years. Same thing with Ganado obviously
at the fending state title in in D one and
Shiner we've seen their pedigran Dy two. But there's a
lot of the familiar what do you say, usual suspects
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near the top.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Of the two A Division one and Division two picks.
Speaker 6 (53:57):
Yeah, I'd say, so, you know, we we we don't
go with the defending champs in Canado this year and
two ED division when they got hammered by graduation. I mean,
when you're in Gannado, Texas and you graduate eighteen seniors,
that's a lot of players who are a lot of
talent who's walking out the door, including Bright all mister
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everything for them last year in the run of that
state championship game. We like what Refurio brings back, especially
from the speed perspective. You know, if they can find
especially if they can kind of settle in on an
identity of more balanced offensively because I think what ended
up happening and what's ended up biting them in the
past is they've gone really, really, really run heavy. If
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they can find a passing game, that's when they really
get dangerous. But to a Division one's fascinating because you
do have Gnado kind of lurking there.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
This is a year I'm all in on Wascomb.
Speaker 6 (54:46):
I think Wascom has an opportunity to rise up there,
but they're going to have a huge challenge within Region
three of Garrison, who were really high on This is
a team that brings back a ton from last year's team.
And then the other thing that I think is really
great about this year into a Division one is that
you've got regional balance in a lot of ways. Got
great teams in Region four, Region three we mentioned you
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gotta have wast them and Garrison. Region one always loaded
Stanford of state finalist from a year ago, Panhandle Figures
would be really good per mystery box. Region is always
Region two, which you may remember was won by the
Hamilton Bulldogs last year. Between Hamilton between Dillion between Axtel
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between the aforementioned Wolf City two A Division one region,
Region two is I think my favorite region because it's
just like it's the anonymous region. It's the somebody who's
got to win a region, which makes which will make
that really fun. And then you mentioned two A Division
two and Munster starts the years and number one they have,
in my opinion, the best player in two A and
Case and Karney and you and I were on the
call of the state championship game last year, and a
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guy that they towards the end they just built the
whole plane out of Case and Karney and said take
us home, big fella, and he did, and he's back
for another year. They do have some pieces that they
need to replace, you know, most notably they're gonna have
to replace some guys on the offensive line, which is
something Munster's always hung their hat on. Shiner brings back
a fairmount from last year, State finalists again from last year.
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But the team that either there's two teams that I
really want to get people thinking about.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
One of them is Brimond.
Speaker 6 (56:19):
You may remember back in the Reshot Paul days where
they went for the three peat and one of the
most remarkable players they are back in a big, big way.
Brimon looks really really good. The other one, this is
more recent, but after a year away, Albany.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
Is going to be a problem again.
Speaker 6 (56:36):
Albany took some lumps last year by their standards by
going nine to three, but they bring back They bring
back sixteen starters, they bring back twenty of their twenty
seven lettermen, and you give Denny faith an experienced ball.
Speaker 5 (56:50):
Club and he is gonna make some Hay.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
I'm really interested in what they end up doing because
I think that, you know, especially Albanie and Munster, really
fun to watch, and especially with these small schools where
you can get big surprises if some team's got some
freshman we've never heard of or some sophomore we've never
heard of. That's what makes two edition two really interesting.
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But Munster, I think starts as the deserves favorite.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Greater Astinner doesn't have many in the two A ranks,
but it's sake to say the best one of the
bunch is probably Granger.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:24):
I actually really like what Granger's been able to put together.
This is a team that I think the build there
has been really steady and consistent, and they have done
I think an excellent job of kind of giving them
entity and what you know Gaston McDorman has done now
entering his second season taking over for cal Netherland. This
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is a this is a program there and Granger that
I think could be ready for that leap fifteen starters back.
They got a running back Caleb Hobbs Hobbs Ratch I
think is his name, who is a playmaker.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (58:01):
They're gonna be really fun to watch and I'm interested
to see. You know, Region four is obviously going to
be I think, very difficult at all. Roads are gonna
eventually lead through, uh, you know, eventually going to lead
through uh you know, uh, some of the very best teams.
But I think that when you take a look at
what they've been able to do, they can go toe
to toe with the teams like Junction and Falls City Shiner.
Shiner is the king there, but they can go and
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I think they have an opportunity to really make a
deep run, especially they can find a little bit of
help defensively.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
He's grabbed Temper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football
Magazine and and and next week, of course is game week,
and we get all fired up, but we also get
to do a six man preview.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Isn't that cool.
Speaker 6 (58:38):
Yes, Yes, we're gonna we are gonna sit here and
we're gonna go game by game of Klondike.
Speaker 5 (58:45):
We're gonna go game by game.
Speaker 6 (58:46):
We're gonna predict the record for the Cougars of Klondike.
That's what we're doing next week.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
That's that's a tease often Righten Olfen Pawnee.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
They're up next.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, all right, hey, thanks to appreciate it. See you guys.
All right.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
That's Greg teffor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. We've got
more from Sart coming up next here on thirteen.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Under the Zone.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Funday for and final hour of the program here on
thirteen under the Zone.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Glad to have you with us.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Craig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker, who's back from Mexico.
I thought he went down for a wedding. He didn't
do that, you know.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
I got a text from a friend who must have
been listening to the show and was talking about some
wedding in Mexico, and I was just like, huh.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
That was yeah, So that was me.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
I've misunderstood you, and that's my bad. I thought that
you told me before you leaved that because you did
say this when because you got to go to a
wedding in North Carolina next month?
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Correct, I have, I have three straight weekends with a wedding.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
There, you go, all right? You said we're coming up
on wedding season. Yeah, And I actually sit on the
air the other day I said, you know, for a
lot of people, wedding season is like April, May, June.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
That's some kind of here. Apparently it's in. And I
said that those pity those individuals who schedule a wedding
like on Texas ho you weekend, because we hear about
that from time to time, and people just beside themselves
that they have to be at or involved in a
wedding somewhat on that. So I just kind of conflated
(01:00:11):
all of it. I just kind of put it all
in there that you were off at a wedding one
of those. I knew you had multiple weddings to deal with,
and I thought that was one. But this was just
to get away. So that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Yeah, just to get away a preseason, like I said,
kind of before the season starts, hang out with my
friends before they don't see me again for six to
eight months, because you know, you understand Craig.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Once football starts.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yeah, football leads to basketball, which leads to baseball, which
leads to a lot of weekends. They were just like, yeah,
I'm sorry, I can't. I'm going to be in Startville
this weekend. Nurse you know, Hey, sorry, I'm going to
be in Faithville.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Or Athens or wherever, or Maui or Maui that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Or Charlotte. Yeah, actually Charlotte. All of that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I had several people ask me this. They said, so,
do you have no more free weekends until next summer?
The answer is large yes, not entirely, because sometimes around
Christmas you don't know how it's gonna work with you know,
obviously post season with college football or whatever, and the
other things that happened. Uh, I've got one weekend that
(01:01:12):
I'm gonna take advantage off. I do this every year
where I take a couple of days off. I'm going
to do it on the open the first open date
weekend in September. Uh, to celebrate I don't know if
a milestone is the right word, but it's kind of
a kind of a significant birthday in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So so people can figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
But anyway, Lind and I are going to go to
Las Vegas, and it's going to be a pretty quick
out and back because I'm doing these high.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
School football telecasts on Friday nights.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
But uh, on that open date weekend, I'm gonna fly
out to Vegas. We're gonna go see Ringo Star play.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Uh. So it's going to be kind of an out
and back thing.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
But I'm going to take a couple of days prior
to that because I'm doing my annual thing guest lecturing
at the North Texas and the guesting on a couple
of podcasts up there as well from some people that
are well known in the Dallas for where they have
to ask. So I said, let me bunch it all
together one car wash up there in uh in September
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on the last week in September.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
So it'll it'll it'll kind of be that otherwise.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, this this weekend here is the last open weekend.
That and that one at the end of September all
the way well into the next spring, with a possible
exception of something around the holidays based on schedules for
football and basketball. Because even on the second open date
weekend for football, uh, there's a basketball game the home
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opener for men's basketball is here, so so yeah, pretty
much every every weekend is covered up in that respect.
So there is that, But that's what we do. It's
it's you know, it's what we choose to do. And
that's why I do the hiatus in the summer for
about two and a half weeks. Want to do vacation
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because I know that's the only time I can take
any kind of extended time off for that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I wanted to ask again with regard to the Tour
Championship that'll be going on at the Atlanta Athletic Club.
You're not a fan of that golf course, not really, No.
I think they did renovate it, didn't They have the
nineteen seventy six you was open there. The Jerry Pate
one had an incredible two iron on number eighteen. I
think ended up winning winning that. There's the one major
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heat won. It was in Atlanta, but I don't know
if it was Atlanta Athletic Club or whatever, but he
did win the seventy six US Open. It's coming out
next year, will be the fiftieth, and so that AAC
is different from where they play the Tour Championship. Oh, okay, okay,
they played that. Sorry, east Lake. I always get to confuse.
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
There's aac which is actually a great golf course, and
then there's East Lake, which is where they play the
Tour champions I see. So they've hosted looks like the
Ryder Cup nineteen sixty three and that's about it. It
was the Donald Ross design, but it was renovated by
who did all the you know, the golf courses that
you can go to in like Georgia. You know, Robert
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Trent Jones. Yeah, yep, I think like to have the
Robert Trails and maybeen his son or his brother at
a renovation that I didn't think was really good, and
they just renovated it two years ago. So last year
was the first time I think they played it under
the renovation and it's still okay, okay, I mean it's
just you know, I don't know, I don't know what else.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
They can do well in the golf course. I'm thinking
of Atlanta Athletics. That's where they played the seventy six years.
Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
That's hosted the PGA Championship, I think recently the US
Open Women's Opens.
Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, that's that. That would be a fantastic venue for
the Tour champion Yeah, it would be okay, so it's
at East Lake. They're in Atlanta. One thing that's kind
of neat and clean about this. I will say this
about the FedEx CuPy, and I've come to terms with
it in this respect because I did ask this question
of Cameron in the first hour of the program. If
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Scotty Scheffler does not win the Tour Championship, does he
still win the FedEx Cup, even because he still leads
by three thousand, seven hundred and sixty nine points going
in this week. Cameron's answer was to say, no, if
you win the Tour Championship, you win the FedEx Cup,
because you know all of this did is for the
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pairing part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Okay, I get it, and I could accept it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
The way I look at that is I look at
the Tour Championship as in that second tier.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
What they say of.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Majors like the Players Championship and and some of those
other ones, I'll look at it in that in that tier.
It's not a major championship to me, like the Masters,
the PGA, the US Open, and the Open Championship. But
I kind of put it in that so it's it's
kind of like a second tier major if you win.
But but the champion golfer of the year is going
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to be Scotty Scheffler. Even if he walks out and
you know, have to leave to go to the bathroom,
well number one, it never returns. Yeah, he's still going
to be the number one golfer in the world at
the end of this thing.
Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
And you know, they changed it a few years ago
to where like you could win the because remember Tiger
Wins won the Tour Championship twenty eighteen. Yeah, but Justin
Rose won the FedEx Cup Championship because it was still
based on the points, and then they changed it to
where if you win the Tour Championship the final event,
then you are the FedEx Cup Championship Sox Cup champion.
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So they have adjusted the format I don't know, probably
like one hundred times now since the since the view
of this and what two thousand and seven, two thousand
and eight, so, but yeah, it's still weird to think
about that. Scotty scheffer could technically not win the FedEx
Cup Championship if he does not win this week.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Okay, all right, and if it is so, be it.
You know, it is what everybody knows what it is.
I don't think he's going to lose any sleeping No.
Guy has won five events this year, He's won two majors.
He's far and away the number one golfer in the
world regardless of what he does this week. But it
would be if he and he won this last year.
If he successfully defends it, then it's another feather feather
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in the cap.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
So where I'm going with this is the tea times
for this week. The thing that I said that I like,
it's kind of neat and clean because you're down with
thirty golfers, so only thirty can can do it. So
the pairing start at ten sixteen Central time. It says
our time in the in the morning with Chris got
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her up and akshay batiya matiya, right batiya.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
I've heard it four different ways. Yeah, yeah, one knows.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
But I thought I saw him playing a live golf
e that aha, No, okay, there is I'm trying to think.
I was flipping around last week and I watched them live,
and I watched some of the you watched them lived.
Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
The keyword there was.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Some some you know, you know why I watched him
it on Fox Sports one some Fox on Fox, and
that was part of the lives deal with them, is
they on Sunday. They get to be on Fox, which
infuriates my brother who is a huge IndyCar fan, and
the IndyCar Race almost every week gets pushed back. They
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delayed the start to allow the coverage to finish of live.
He calls it blood money golf. He goes the blood
money Golf events got an end. So he's like really
been out of shape about that deal because the IndyCar Event,
the start of the Indie Car event gets pushed back,
which I think is kind of crazy too when you
think about that. But I guess television Fox is giving
them enough money where they're willing to wait on that
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kind of deal and on one of those events, either
that or or the BMW. I saw Batilla. I think
I heard it pronounced last week playing, but I just
again completed.
Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I was thinking maybe he was on the live event.
So he's playing.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Uh, he's in the first group the first two someone
with Chris got her up, then Sun Jam and by
the way, Chris gotter up.
Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah. Uh, and Jacob Bridgeman. What can you tell me?
About him. Literally nothing. I didn't know he existed until
just now he's he's in the top thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Allegedly he might be an Ai golfer the Sea from
Clemson birthplace in min South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Well there you go, Uh, Harry Hall the Englishman, Yeah,
and Nick Taylor Canadian. Okay, Then it's Sideki matsy Yama
and Chane Lowry. That's that's that's a great name pairing there,
as is the one that follows Colin Morricawa and Victor Hovlin. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
They a TLF eleven in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Uh, Corey Connors and Patrick Campway interesting, followed by Sam
Burns and Brian Harmon, Andrew Novak, Kegan Bradley, who you
think may be playing for his playing captain ship for
the Ryder Cup if he finishes strong enough.
Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I think so. I think right now he would pick himself.
I think he'll he'll over it could be.
Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Would it be a Maverick McNeely, It possibly could be. So.
Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
The six who are who have already confirmed on the
team Scotty JJ Spahn who won the US Open, Xanderschoffley Russell,
Henley Harris English and Bryson Shamba then the next six
in the Ryder Cup standings, which doesn't mean Keigan has
to pick. Those are Justin Thomas, Colin, Morricala, Ben Griffin,
Matt McNeely, Keigan, Bradley himself, and then Brian Harmon and
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a couple of guys outside that list, including Andrew Novak
who won earlier this year but has been dealing with injuries.
He's in the final thirty, Cam Young, who just won
for the first time a few weeks ago, Patrick Cantley,
Sam Burns with them, Clark In, a handful of other guys.
So I think J T. Morikawa, Ben Griffin are for
sure on the team. So that's nine. I think McNeely, Keigan, Bradley,
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Brian Harmon are kind of that next group of three
guys and then guy. But then you have then you
have the guys who have already been on Ryder Cup
teams who are a little bit lower like Cam Young,
Can't Lee, Sam Burns. I I think we're gonna see
I don't think Brian Harmon makes the team because they're
playing at Bethpage. It's a pretty long golf course. I
think the US is going to try and set up
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to be a very long affair and kind of take
away see to do with that page black by the way,
take away because what eure thrives on is ball striking.
Make it a bomber's paradise. Sorry, Brian Harmon, you're out.
But Matt McNeely can drive the ball pretty well, and
so can guys like Cam Young and Can'tlee and Sam Burns.
I think Sam Burns will probably I think Burns he
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could make the team here, but I like to your point,
you know, if Cam Young finishes third or can't they
finish his third? And and Sam Burns is you know,
twenty ninth, well to have an impact on on who
on who kicking picks?
Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
You know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I'd forgotten Colin morricles from California, right or kwa, Yeah
he went to cal Berkley. I think he's from California County, Irvine, Vine, Irving, Irvine,
Let's see LA. I guess technically La in Orange County,
so it's in the area. Yeah, kind of like Irving
is in Dallas County, you.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Know, near Dallas.
Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah, okay, so then the other ones, uh to mention
Cameron Young, lud Vig Oberg Harris English, justin Thomas. Uh,
you know, Bobby Mack, Robert Mcintyren Maverick McNeely man.
Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
That's a great name pairing there, McIntyre, McNeely.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, Russell Henley and Scepstraca, Tommy Fleetwood and Ben Griffin,
JJ Spawn and Justin Rose and then the number one
pairing at one o'clock Team Office Scotty Chafflin, Roy McElroy.
Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
And I think, you know, for the golf nerds, like
like myself, I mean, looking at these last let's see
last three, four, five, six, seven, the last seven groups,
I think all fourteen of those players will be playing.
Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
In the Ryder Cup in a few weeks. Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Brory obviously, Justin Rose I think will be a Captain's
big He's playing some fantastic golf. Same for Tommy Fleetwood.
I think Straca's already qualified. Harris English have already qualified
big shot Bob McIntyre, he'll be there. I mean, I
know he kind of he didn't play well on Sunday,
you know, lost the four shot lead, but Saturday, right,
you know him, Scotty. Every time Scotty would kind of
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make a push. McIntyre's are the answer. I think he
probably was pretty exhausted after Saturday's game, he emotionally and
physically drained, and then realized on Sunday, you know, Scotty's
just Scotty, and then of course Ludwig and then even
you know the Kee and Bradley group. You know, eleven
thirty eight AM with Andrew Novak. You know Novak, you
could get an argument for Ryder Cup spot in the
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group before that, Burnsy and Brian Harmon, you know they
could be in the Ryder Cup as well. So we're
gonna see a lot of the potential Ryder Cup players
in action all week.
Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Are Straka and Fleetwood on the Europeans. Yes, okay, Fleetwood
keeps going right up to the Cup and then not fit.
Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yeah, but hey, he's been a thorn in the American
side in the Ryder Cup. He was last the last
time around. And hre they in Paris, France? Yeah, a
rome in Rome.
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Paris was the Olympics where where Scotty won at the Olympics.
All right, we're gonna hear more from long wrt's head coach,
Cheve's Sarcasian when we come back on thirteen under the zone.
We'll pick right back up with sound from long Hort's
head coach, Chief's Sarcasian Sart asked about you listen, it's
we get it. I understand folks are anxious, eager, interested
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to talk about Arch Manning. I was on the Ohio
State Buckeye Radio network last night and they wanted to
talk about Arch. When I spoke to the Austin Rotary
Club last week, they you know, they asked me about
Arch and I'm not mentioned in my name. I was
in some of the offense and the retooling and all listen,
and somebody said, can you tell us a little bit
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about Arch? And I said, excuse me, I'm not familiar
with that name. Playing with him a little bit on
that because because he, you know, he's so often discussed
and talked about, and really and truly when it was
on with Paul Keels, the voice of the Buckeyes and
he'll be on with us next week to talk to
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Ohio State, you know, I was talking about how Arch
has handled everything pretty what we can tell pretty seamlessly,
and part of it is just because of the upbringing
and being around that he kind of understands it and
gets it. But he's a lot of it's his attitude
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and how he handles it. But Sark was asked about
the leadership element for arch banding and how that is
coming along.
Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
You know, I just think that they you know, I
haven't pulled them, you know, to know. But I would
think if I was, if I was a player and
my quarterback was like, hey, let's go walk through these
six more plays one more time to make sure we
get it right, that there's a level of respect for him, right,
that this guy really wants to get it right, so
that we can get it right collectively and that we
can perform at a high level. But I also think
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it sends a bit of a message like, hey, you know,
when this guy's asking us to do something, we got
to go do it right. And I think ultimately a
quarterback plays as good as he can play one based
on his preparation and his ability, but to how well
those guys around him play, And the better the quarterback plays,
the more the receivers benefit from that, right, the more
the run game benefits from that. So it's all it
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all works together collectively. But I think it starts with respect,
you know, And there's a way to say, hey, guys,
we're gonna go walk through and hey, let's get these
six plays right. And there's a way not to as well. Right,
you can be a jerk about it, and Arch clearly
that's not him. You know, he's got a great demeanor
about him. He's got a ton of respect from his
teammates and they know they know the his best interests
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are there of why he's wanting to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
The next thing I wanted to to get who you was, Uh,
this is something that it drew a great deal of conversation,
especially coming out of the first scrimmage, was pre snap penalties,
and Sart was was, you know, pretty firm with his group,
how he wants them to steer away from that and
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do a better job in terms of taking care of
the football and the pre snap looks. But that also
affects the sets that you're lining up as well with
the pre snap and he was asked about.
Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
That much better Saturday, you know, two weeks ago. Not
very good, you know, and but but again, you know,
you you kind of lower your expectations on some things
going into a first scrimmage and then you know, but
again I took a lot of ownership of that because
I don't think I emphasized it quite enough, and then
we came back this past scrimmage and did a great
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job with it, which is which is encouraging. Naturally here
the nast two the next two weeks, you know, we
got to really start to incorporate crowd noise. We we've
used crowd noise more in training camp the last two
and a half weeks and we have in any training camp,
but even now over the next two weeks, much more
crowd noise. Now, I do think there's something about the
crowd noise that forces a little bit of different mental
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intensity and focus. And we've generally operated pretty good on
the road when it comes to kind of some of
the shifts in motions. But we've got some new players,
you know, and I think back to last year at Michigan.
We had a couple of false starts early with Cam Williams,
you know, one of his first start on the road.
So we're gonna be mindful of those things and we'll
get a sense in a feel of kind of how
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we do over the next two weeks and how much
we want to.
Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Use all Right, next another injury update. You know, everybody's
paying close attention to see j Baxter and rightly so
with him coming off Dangel. What about Christian Clark, Remember
he had shown promise certainly before going down with the injury.
And how's Clark's progress coming along?
Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Yeah, I know, I like I said, you know, medicine
and science have come a long long way. You know,
for this guy to be moving with the explosiveness that
he is, you know, a year removed from that injury,
is very impressive. Like I'm impressed every day. I watch
him do drills, I watch him do team I watch
him do those things. You know, I think at the
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end of the day, where you have to think of
him as a freshman because essentially he missed his entire
freshman year. And so he's got great instincts, he's got
great hands, he's got great ability. But now some of
those runs, the way you ran them in high school,
you can't quite run them the same here. You know,
the guys that are trying to tackle you are probably
bigger and faster. It's just the way it goes. And
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so now you've got to find those creases. You got
to find those five six yard runs. And not every
run's gonna bounce and go get forty. Sometimes you got
to put your face in there and just go get
six yards. And he's getting better at that. He's starting
to understand that, because that's one of the things that
can happen when you just practice in helmets early in camp.
Nobody's hitting you and everybody's tagging off, and some of
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those runs feel good. All of a sudden it's thun
and oh those runs aren't quite as good. All of
a sudden it's live and you're getting tackled for a
two yard gain as you're trying to your body sideways.
So just trying to work it on him staying, you know,
with a with a forward lean, being a north south runner,
and then when those opportunities present themselves, take them. But
that's part of the growth. Like again, you got to
think of him as a freshman. You know, that was
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like a true red shirt year for that guy, you know,
where he didn't get to work and practice with us
that way.
Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
All right, So then you continue to talk about player development,
and the other thing that start, you know, really harps
on is building the depth. How have all the changes
due to graduation, injury and the like affected the ongoing
effort to build the depth?
Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
I would probably say yes, and no, yes, and the
effect of we got to understand the rules right that
the portal one can be a detriment to your own
team because players can leave and you think you have
really good depth at a position. In the very next year,
it could look not so good because three guys leave.
But the portal can be an asset because I get
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to go on the portal and replace positions of need.
All the while the traditional model of recruiting really well
and developing players in your program still remains true. And
so I think there's a bit of a balancing act that, Hey,
I'm not saying we're perfect, but we've done a pretty
good job of managing so far. Again, you know, we're
Every year is different. You know, some years you take
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more transfers, other years you don't. But a lot of
that is predicated on did you have more attrition on
your roster of guys leaving and transfer and or guys
leaving early for the NFL, so on and so forth.
And you have twenty three guys go to the NFL
the last two years, a decent number of those underclassmen.
You have to replace those positions, and then you have
a couple transfers out of there. Now, Okay, is it
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fair to a high school kid to say you need
to come here and you have to start because if
you don't rescrewed, or maybe is it better to take
a junior who can transfer in and then you get
two of those guys and you can still develop the
freshmen and count on the junior. But there's challenges to
that too, because you know, like like I said, when
you're taking a transfer a senior, a junior, they've been
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in another program for three or four years and they've
developed habits in that program. And I'm not saying that
we're a unicorn and the way that we operate, but
I do think that we are unique in a sense
of how we compete, the way we work, the connectivity
on our roster in our locker room, and getting them
accustomed to that of what that looks like on a
consistent basis is a different challenge than we've probably had
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to deal with in the past, because normally the freshmen
come in and it's like this is how we do it,
and you get in line and you start working on it,
and then you work your way up. Well, now you're
starting to bring a guy in, man, we've got to
focus on this guy. We've got to get him ready
quicker than probably a freshman normally would be.
Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
All right, we'll hear some more from sark coming up
when we continue on thirteen under the Zone program tomorrow.
Speaking of Michael Taff as we continue with some more
comments from ED coach Steve Sarkasian, he cannot gush enough
about not only having a veteran who can make plays
like Taff in a secondary but all of the contributions
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Taft makes to the football program.
Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Yeah, you know, it's like fifth year. You know, I
joke with him a lot, but that was the fifth
time he had that scrimmage, right, or the fifth time
we you know, I showed a movie to these guys
that I hadn't shown since our first year here, and
he and Marshall were the only two guys that had
saw it in year one. I'm thinking, well, shoot, I
don't guess you don't have to sit in here. But
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you know, in the end, I think it's like he's
looking for every angle at this point. You know, he's
looking for every everything, every stone he can look under
to find one more little niche, one more advantage. But
in the same token, he's taken a lot of guys
under his wing, you know, and how much he's meant
to Jelani and Derek and Grayson Littleton and the communication
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back there and what that looks like, and you know,
I just think at the end of the day, he's
an awesome role model for his teammates. But he's also
a great spokesman for us because he does so many
things the right way that we want all of our
guys to do it that way. I've referenced this a
year ago about Kelvin Banks. That's what a Longhorn looks like.
The way he goes about his business every single day,
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That's how we want to go about our business. And
I can say the same thing about Michael taff.
Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Interesting, and I was intrigued by the fact that he
said he showed a movie that he had not shown
sincere freshman. I remember started telling me maybe this was
a little more recent than his first season. But I
asked him about the science of the movie viewing thing.
And I'll do it again when we start Longhorn Weekly
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a week from Thursday night. It'll be our first show
of the year of Longhorn Weekly. And I asked him
about movies and what science goes into deciding when they
do see a movie. And the only time they see
a movie on the road is when they have a
later kickoff. They don't do it when they have an
early kickoff. So they won't have one before the Ohio
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State game on the road, but they will have one
before the Kentucky game and probably before the Florida and
Mississippi State games. Haven announcer's times yet, but they're gonna
be after dinner eating. And he mentioned he was talking
about the process a little bit, and he said he
picked out a movie that he thought was gonna be
a winner. I don't even remember what it was now,
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And he said they were all ready to walk out
like thirty minutes into it.
Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
It was because it was a bad choice on a movie.
Who was Gladiator?
Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
Russell Crowe?
Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Yeah, I think he was one of those Russell Crowe movies,
because he's he's done like some weird, low budget films.
Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
I think it was one of those weird ones. So
you remember that. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I'll ask
him about that, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
So Michael Taff of course is a safety and he's
played some star as well. What about that safety room
and how it's developing.
Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
And I should add Exavier Phil Sam and Jordan Johnson
Abella that list as well, two guys I'm really proud of. Yeah,
I'm super pumped of how far those two guys have come,
especially Xavier. Like, this guy is a very good football player.
You know, your freshman year in college is your freshman
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year in college. We all were there. But this guy's
got a seriousness about him about the game.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Jiggy's always been very serious. He had to change his body.
So two different guys, two different things that they were
working on. One guy's changing his body, the other guy's
trying to figure out, like what it looks like to
be a Division one football player at this place every day.
But the coming out of it, man that these both
are going to contribute for us on defense and on
special teams. So that part's been been really encouraging that way.
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You know, I think we're seeing the growth in a
lot of those other young guys as they go. Not
finished products by any means, you know, And they got
coach Akina yelling at them all day long, so they'll
get there. I'm sure they want to get there sooner
rather than later. But as I told them, you know,
he's not going to stop yelling at you, because I
hear him yelling at Michael taff every day too. And
you think he's perfect and he can't get anything wrong.
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He's screaming at Michael tafft too. So the development doesn't stop.
But all those young guys I think are making good strides.
Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Okay, all right, So next from the defensive side to
the offensive side.
Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
We know who the number one quarterback is, so mentioned obviously,
and we'll hear from arch mannymore.
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
What about what's going on at that backup spot with
Trey Owens there, Matt Caldwell there, kJ Lacey, those guys,
all all of those guys around it.
Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Sark was asked about.
Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
There is there many any real separation there at that
backup quarterback spot.
Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
I would say this, I think all the guys as
I touched on last week are doing good things. And
one of the challenges is a backup, especially when there's
three of you battling for it. I can only give
so many reps so many ways, and so we're trying
to like kind of roll a dex them through with
the two's and the threes. Even spotting him with the
ones at times, and so I'm trying to see who
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can play consistent football, and I think that things are
starting to shape themselves out. We'll see, there's another week
to evaluate. Clearly, as we get into next week, we'll
have a pretty good idea of in our minds, you know,
if we need to go to a backup, what we
would do and how that would play out.
Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Okay, Next, the ever present question about injuries and the
recovery from those.
Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Where does that stand right now?
Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Yeah, Jilani and Trey were both good practicing going today.
We held Trevor. You know, we'll probably hold him and
limit him for a couple of days, but he'll be fine.
So I'm very comfortable with that one.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Okay. Another one is.
Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
How does he feel the feeling he gets about where
his football team is right now here? So that was
it was after practice yesterday, so it was twelve days
out yesterday, it's eleven days out.
Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Now, what about the feeling camp from where he is?
Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Yeah, I think that they today probably started that and
probably quite frankly, the end of Saturday, because that's really
the end of training camp for us. You know, this
week we treat as a mock week. Even though we're
not in school, all of our practice times are what
they would be next week when school starts. Now, granted,
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our guys aren't, you know, showering and going to study
hall into class and so on and so forth. So
we have to create some things for them in the
afternoons to simulate what their normal game week would look like.
But we've kind of started that, and with that, we've
already started to sprinkle a few things from a game
plan perspective to get a head start on those things.
We haven't dumped it all on them, but we're starting
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the process and I think they feel it, you know, definitely,
you could feel it out there, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
And then one more from him, there's the ever present
thing about position battles, be it in the interior lines, offense, defense, linebacking, corps,
wide receivers, running backs. He just talked about the backup
quarterback spot as well. Are there still position battles that
are going on?
Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
No, I think you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Again, I'm not a big coach speak guy, but like
we battle for se having team weeks. You know, as
much as I would like to say, hey, we know
exactly who's gonna play where when every single week, I
think we've got a lot of really good battles, we
have guys that might be nicked up, and and that
would allow, hey, that the next guy is probably gonna
play better than this guy nicked up. And so we're
constantly pushing R two deep that they're all ones, you know,
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and they've gotta they've got to play like ones. You
gotta prepare like ones, they gotta think like a one.
And then over time, when a guy goes down at
Trevor Goose, Toby can go in and it feel normal,
you know, And and I think that that that's no
different than a year ago, where you know, Derek Williams
was the starter, Andrew mccoba was the backup, you know,
and surely you know, then Derek gets injured and here
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comes Andrew mccooba and he goes on to do what
they have the year that he had. So we're constantly
pushing those guys to all, you know, prepare, think play
that way. So those battles go on, and I hesitate
to say it's always just a position battle because they're
all gonna play. A lot of the times is who
takes the field first, but we play all our guys
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a lot, especially early in the season, so I'm not
too consumed with, hey, this is our starting eleven, knowing
especially on defense. I mean, we'll probably play over thirty
guys in the first half of this game, you know,
at least well into the twenties of guys that will
play in the game.
Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Yeah, I'd let you know. He's counting on the depth,
the strength in the depth.
Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
program on thirteen under the Zone.