August 26, 2025 • 24 mins
Greg Tepper joins Craig Way for his weekly #TXHSFB conversation. They complete their season preview series with a look at the 6-man landscape before discussing where future state championship games might be played.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The road to football championships, both the collegiate and the
high school levels. Truly Internest begins this week welcoming back
to the program, and of course, if we're doing that,
that means it's time for our weekly conversation with the
editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. That's
Greg Tepper, who has his own road destinations this week.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Do you not?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I do. I'm on Thursday, after doing our little dog
and pony show around here at Dave Campbell's Texas Football,
We're going to load up to Dave Campbellmobile and drive
west on I twenty until we hit Abilene Beautiful Shotwell
Stadium for Wolforth's Friendships taking on Byron Nelson Across regional.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Matchup to open the season.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Because we're here, we made it like we have finally
arrived at the fireworks factory.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There are more.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Than eight thousand Texas high school football games on the
docket over the next seventeen weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Then I'll be I'll be in attendance of one of
them on Thursday night, and it's it's going to be
very exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
More important question here is the White Elephant Truck stop
in Cisco still open, because if it is that you
go to, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
To report back.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm presently being bullied by other members of the staff
to stop at Mary's Cafe and straw and on the way.
So we're there there, we will. There may be a
couple of stops. It may take us longer than than
would be a direct route to get to Abilene.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
For you know, for cultural purposes, I would say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For yeah, I sorted to say Mary's Cafe isn't exactly
on the way, but I can certainly understand the detour
over there. I can certainly understand that for folks who've
never seen the larger chicken fried steak in human existence,
you need only go over to Palipito County and you'll
see it in all in glory there.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You've been there before, right, I have.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Actually never been.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I've I've heard tell Basically, it's it's one of those
things that I think on my Texas bona Fide list
is missing a check mark.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I intend to put that check mark fair on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, you need to do that, and I will tell
you this again. The argument can be made, and I
understand it, and you've heard it before that while it
may not be the best chicken fried steak in existence,
it's certainly the largest. If you get the big one,
the big one's about sounds of a truck tire. I
wouldn't exactly recommend you go there, even though you have
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a healthy appetite like me. The small one would probably
do you. The medium would definitely be more than enough
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I also the other thing about it, and like, if
we are to go to a football game after that,
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Be, as I would say, have the itis.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I would like to be a a little bit mobile,
a little bit able to enjoy myself as opposed to
being splayed out in the middle of the floor of
a Shotwell Stadium press box enjoying my opening night of
seconds high school football wishing I hadn't eaten so much
chicken fried steak.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, well, then the small ones you get your your
go to, then that's the one that's one of yours.
And by the way, if and I don't know if
the White Elephant is still open, but that was used
the in off of I twenty there at Cisco.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That was the stop off.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And you go in there and you have what's called
the trucker special, which is like in Geladas and they
got like crushed FreeDOS over the top of them or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So yeah, that's a highway. That's a highway for you.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So all of this to say that the highway to
college and and and high school state championships.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'll get that back to high school in a moment.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm gonna do what I normally do with you, and
that is I removed Texas from the equation. Okay, uh,
And in this case, I'm removing it for probably a
very good reason. And the reason is this, I want
you to pick out the collegiate game involving a Texas
school that most intrigues you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So that's why.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Obviously I'm removing Texas Ohio State from the equation. So
I'll be up in Columbus. But because the duty calls.
But for the purposes of this conversation, what outside of
that game has your attention?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's a fair that's a fair response because otherwise, obviously
Texas and Ohio State, that's going to be that's probably
the game of the week in the nation, let alone
within the state of Texas. But there is plenty of
other really intriguing football going on across the state this
week that I'm very I'm gonna I'm going to be
keeping a close eye on a number of them. One
of them is going on in College Station on Saturday
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night when Texas A and M welcomes in a UTSA
team that you know, darn well would love to take
a scout home to San Antonio and would love to
get what would be undisputedly the biggest winning program history.
And by the way, I think they got the capability
to do it. You know, look, they're going to be
a huge underdogs obviously. I mean, this is an AAC
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team against an SEC team playing simple on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But we know that Jeff.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Trailer is going to be out there coaching rear end often.
He's going to lay it all out there because he
unders stands what a win like this could mean for
his program. And furthermore, you know, we do.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Have questions about this you team, about the sex't A
and M team.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I want to see exactly how the Marcel Read situation
kind of bears itself out. I want to see, especially
the linebacker situation, what that looks like there with Texas
A and M, and can utsa take advantage of of it.
That's one thing that I'm certainly keeping my eye on.
I am also going to be keeping an eye on
what is going to be happening, I think on Thursday
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with Houston welcoming in SFA and obviously, look again Houston's
a big favorite at home, but year two under Willie Fritz,
I would like to see this team look like the
kind of team that is making that step, that is
ready to take that next step in their development, and
against the Stephen of Austin team at the FCS level
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that is not a pushover, that is a contender. I
think within their conference. I am interested to see what's.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Going on there. Those are the two that I'm especially
interested in.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And then obviously I think the Friday night one with
Baylor welcoming in Auburn obviously a big big twelve, you know,
a Big twelve versus the SEC matchup, an SEC team
going on the road, an SEC team that I think
is there for the taking. And look, you know, if
you're a big twelve school and like you know, like Baylor,
you don't apologize for getting the SEC win. You just
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go out there and you take it and you you
you hang the banner, And so I think for Baylor
that is a really intriguing opportunity to really make a
name for themselves and say, hey, we are in fact
back to where we you know, back near the top.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Just look, we got a big Week one win against
an SEC squad in Auburn.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Those are the three that really catch my eye.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I agree with all of those choices. Two questions.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
One, is your co host Ashley Pickle fired up about
the North Texas opener against the Lamark Cardinals on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, she she hasn't shout up about it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
She's very excited about about what they've got cooking there
at at North Texas. So yeah, I think they think
should be comfortable favorites there. I want to see exactly
what that offense looks like, which is overrun an overhaul
in the off season.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And I would imagine you're probably not that intrigued by
SMU welcoming in East Texas A and M the former
Texas A and M commerce the transitional FCS program.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, you know, SMU go out there, take
care of business. I'm really interested just to see the
look on East Texas A and M just because you're right,
they have been commerce for quite some time. It will
be a new look and I'm interested to see what
that looks like. But yeah, SMU should be pretty comfortable
favorites to move to one and on here.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Greg Jepper, editor in chief Tape Campbell's Texas Football Magazine joints,
All right, let's jump to high school. Your preseason pulls
out the top twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Five in six A.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
As we always point out that it's a top twenty five,
it's a top ten in the classifications that have divisions
and they don't split into the division still the playoffs
at the six A level, But you know, I look
at at it, I look at the computer rankings from
a friend, Jerry Farest. There's lots of similarities there. How
about your thoughts on this preseason top ten? And that's
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South Lake Carol at one, North Crowley two, and of
course they're bound to go different brackets, different directions, and
it's Duncanville, Westlake, North Shore, vandergriff Alan, Katie Lake, Travis
inon Dinesota for the top ten.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, it is a really intriguing kind of top ten,
specifically because you've got this group of teams at the
top that I think would you would Claire cross By
at blue Bloods right, it's a lot of blue bloods.
Obviously North Crowley maybe and vandergriff would be the newest
blue bloods quote unquote of these groups. But they are
of course the reigning state champon deserve our respect and
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I'm excited to see what they put out there, especially
in in Week one.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Both of them a very interesting Week one openers.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But there's a couple of teams that I want to
draw your attention to, kind of lower in the top ten,
that I'm very intrigued by. One of them is a
long time program that you know for you know, people
not much you know, don't have to be a high
school football fan for long to remember when Allen was
ruling the roost in six A. I think Allen's back
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in a big way, and I think what Lee Wigginson
is building there is maybe a vintage Allen team that
is going to be a legitimate contender. I think in
six A Division one, they are that good. They are deep,
they are talented, They're going to be exceptional defensively.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm interested in that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And the other one is, again you don't have to
think far, go back far when Katie was the Kings
in the Houston area and obviously won the twenty twenty
state championship. People may forget that because I think we've
all kind of tried to push that out of our minds.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
But you think about what.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Katie I think has has it's been a minute since
aside from twenty twenty, they kind of ruled the Houston roosts.
North Shore has taken that kind of that mantle as
the program of record in.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The Houston area.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, I think Katie's back in a big way, and
I think this might be Gary Joseph's best team in
a decade or so. I'm really excited about. They're very
good in a lot of the Katie ways.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
ISAAMH.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
McMillan leads the way on the defensive side. Jeremiah Smith
is just an old school linebacker that is going to
be a lot of fun to watch. And they're going
to run the stink and ball and simple and so
that's what really.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Catches my eye.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
In the six A top ten, yes, of course, Southlake
Carol Wou've talked about them for quite a while. They'd
fall in that category of maybe a blue blood of
yesteryear that's having a revival. A lot of the usual
suspects there, but especially Alan and Katie.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
They may be kind of.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
On the upswing, and the trajectory may be such that
this may be a year where they are capital b back.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, all right now before we jump to our six
man previews. To close out of previews, we'll do what
we always do. We always call it the cruelest, meanest
thing we do each week is I give you the
choice of three games, and you tell me which one
really intrigues you, the one that's your most If you
could transport to one and had to be at one,
which would it be?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All right, I'm going to give you the choice of these.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
In six A Westlake prosper in UH five A Division one,
simply because of the number one team Alito against Denton Geyer.
I think that's the our telecast on victory plus.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I won't be there obviously. I think Josh Bograd will
be on the call for that, but it'll be that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So there's that five A Division two South O'cliff against
from six A north Shore, and then just just is
a bonus for a Division two Carthage kill Gore.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You're yeah, yeah, well that's brutal. We are very back
my friend doing radio.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Okay, the answer is probably Carthage and Killgore, just because
these are just the team that played for state championship
last year in Kilgore and a team that won the
state championship last year in Carthage. And and the star
power here is absurd for a four four a game,
but all four of them are really really interesting. Obviously,
the North Shore South Okcliff game has big name brand potential.
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I'm interested to seeing what a new look North Short
team looks like going.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Remember this is even Dudley Harris County very often, and
I'm interested except for basically to come to Arlington.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I'm interested to see what they look like. And then
you mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Alito getting guyer. What does the guy or offense look like?
They're basically a mystery and is this an Alito year
where they are back to their their normal self they
start the year number one? This would certainly kind of
cement themselves as the team to beat in five day
Division one. But then you mentioned the local game, and
of local in you know, air quotes because being played
in Belton and mary Hart and Baylor, but.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Prosper and Westlake.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is a real take your eye off the ball
type game because I think Prosper might have the best
offensive line in Texas with Baden Crimpen leading the way.
They've got three fbs that commits on the offensive line,
which is insane going up against Maddi Splint and a
defense there led by coach by coach Tony.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Salazar that we know it's going to be good, so
they're all great.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I will go with Carfudge and Kilgore as the game
that that you got to be at. But but it
is a it's a whopper Week one of Texas IG school.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Football, absolutely no question match.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, let's let's move to our six man previews, because
we previewed every classification, so now we're down to one
A six man Division one, one A six man Division two,
the two divisions of six man. Is it too simplistic
to say it's a run it back for both Gordon
and Jaydon in six AD one In six A D two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It is going to be very hard, I think, to
pick against either of these teams to go to win
another state championship. Obviously be three in a row for
Gordon and then it will be a back to back
for Jayden. I do think that Gordon is a borderline
prohibitive favorite in one A Division one.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I mean they have.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Three potential FBS guys there with Ry Reid who is
committed to Army, Striker Reid who's committed to Air Force,
and now Brad Walters their wide receiver. Who you talk
with coach Mikereed, he'll tell you that they might be
the best. He might be invest of the bunch. Now
they have a really interesting first week test against the
Richland Springs team that could be on that short list.
And one A Division two two up in Jaydon is
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a good Jaydon team with Sean Standalon their quarterback back,
the coach's kid leading the way. But I do think
that there are two legitimate threats to the throne. I
think for Jaydon one of them is Lemisa Klondike, coached
by Dalton de Graff and Red and he's only like
twenty eight and driving me nuts. I covered him in
high school. But he has got a team this year.
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They have a they had a really awes non district ship.
I think they started to year like one in four
or zero and four. They ran through a brutal non
district schedule and then got white hot towards the end
took their lumps. I'm interested in Clyde I and they're
Richland Springs, Richinald Springs absolutely fascinating this year for a
couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
One of them, they're very very good guys like Billy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Cohen, Billy Cohen Lee in the Way or Billy Perry
and Cohen athrisly in the Way. But also who's coaching them,
because you may remember a few years ago Jerry Burkhardt.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Was suspended for three years. That was three years ago.
But we do not know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It is an open question as to who is going
to be coaching Richland Springs this year. You know, we
understand that Sean Rodger is the guy who's been there
coach in the last few years. That's what we think
it's to me, But there is there the chance that
that you've got, you know, one of the most decorated
coaches in the six man football history just wandering up
to the sideline and coaching the Coyos this year. So
fascinating there and I think one A Division two probably
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the road to Arlington is more treacherous for Jaydon than
it is from Gordon, who looks like the clear team
the people won a Division one.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know what, maybe maybe I did six man at
the service. Maybe in those games that I made you
choose one, maybe I should have included Gordon versus Richland
Springs this week.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Hey, I'll throw another one at you. Is I believe
Do I have this correct?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I believe Abbott is opening the season against Ogle Speed again,
which is a terrific top five matchup in six man
as well.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Fascinating.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The thing about six man is that all these teams,
they're all these coaches that there's just not enough teams
for you to run away.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
From from our money, So like you're going to.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
End up with some absolutely wropper first round or for
you know, non district matchups, and and week one is
chopped full of them.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Final thing I want to get to here, Uh, I've
been meaning to ask you this for for about two
or three weeks now, and keep forgetting to do it.
But I'm going to do it because you're your Your
staff did a very good job of presenting multiple opinions, perspectives,
and and and comments on this whole issue of whether
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the state championship should remain at AT and T Stadium.
There are those who have San Antonio's interest at heart
and talk about that in the Alamodome.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Uh, there're those who talk about the n.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
RG and in Houston and uh, you know those kinds
of things. So I'm curious to get your thought as
the US starts to settle again, because to me, it
seemed like a FATA complete that we would ultimately see
or hear that the u I L has has reupted
with Jerry World again and that it's going to continue there.
But until it's official, it didn't official. So how about
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your thoughts on all of that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, so I think you're hearing the same rumblings that
I am, that that there is a deal that is imminent,
therefore an extension to the existing deal for the state
champions to remain at AT and T Stadium in Arlington.
I will tell you, and I know you know this,
that the that the Oil likes playing at and T Stadium,
playing a simple and they don't. They don't rotate. You'll
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notice that other UIL state championships don't rotate, like the
soccer Sea Championship are always in Georgetown, you know, the
baseball state championships always in round rock.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Uh, they they don't rotate them.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Obviously, football is a different beast than a lot of
those other UIL sports.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And I think that one of the things.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That I have learned throughout the course of this debate
is I understand where people are coming from. They're saying, Hey,
why should a team from Why should when Galena Park
Northshore plays Duncanville every single year? You know, theoretically, why
does Galena Park North Shore always have to go on
the road and drive up the road while Duncanville get
to sleep in their bed? And I understand what they're saying.
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There's a couple of things. I think it's just not
quite as simple as that. Specifically, and this is the
this gets into real nerdy stuff here, but the locker
room situation at these stadiums are not equal. The locker
room situation specifically at a teen and T stadium was
it's essentially a stadium built to host the event because
they've got multiple full sized locker rooms that you can
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bring in the team that's playing in a three o'clock
game while the eleven o'clock game is going on, and
you don't have to move the teams that are currently
playing out of their locker room. That's one thing that
I think is going on there. I think there need
to be some renovations to the Alamo now for that
to happen as well. I know that that was a
real sticking point when it was at NRG in two
thousand fifteen. I understand, and we did a survey of
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coaches on Texas Football dot Com and the to be clear,
a plurality of coaches, about forty five percent of coaches
wanted to remain permanently of AT and T Stadium, but
there is a decent minority about a twenty to twenty
five percent of coaches we surveyed that said they would
like to see a rotation between between the three Dome stadiums,
and so I think the UIL will continue to listen
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to them, but for now, it does feel like they're
comfortable they're at AT and T Stadium, and until I
think there are some renovation to those other stadiums that
make the UH operational part of it a little bit
more equal, I think.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
They're gonna they're they're happy there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
In Ireland, Yeah, I would say this if there was
either on the north side of the I thirty five
corridor of the Greater Austin area, or the east side
off the two ninety, or the south side if there
was a thirty thousand seat dome stadium there, the state
championships would be in Austin every year and we would
never hear anything more about it, simply because they'd like
to have them in the headquarters city.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
As you laid out, whatever possible.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, they like being in Austin, they like they understand
the central location of it. But it's also worth mentioning that,
like to your point, if we did this study a
couple of years ago, that if you take all the
UIL member schools and you put together, the average distance
to the three dome stadiums, AT and T Stadium is
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the most central, is the most central on average, and
is the most central to the most number of teams.
And so that I think, I think, like we think
of a lot about Houston driving to DFW and San
Antonio driving DFW, and I get that, but there's a
whole West Texas guys at West Texas at and T Stadium.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Is the closest for those teams.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I think we kind of take for granted how far
south San Antonio is and how far.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
East Houston is.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
DFW is a little bit more central. I think of
the three stadium it is the most central to the
most number of teams.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I think that's appealing to the UIL as all well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And we'll put it in as simplest too, the fans,
fans of the Panhandle schools stay away from Houston and
San Antonio and droves if their school is not in it,
as evidenced by more than one hundred thousand fans if
you were in attendance at the twenty fifteen games at
NRG as opposed to the ones at AT and T Stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, the numbers, and I know that there is some concerns,
certainly because the numbers the past couple of years have
been slipping. I think that you look, I don't want
to get into a whole thing, but part of that
is certainly the teams that were playing this past year.
For example, Vandergrats a terrific story, but a young program,
and they just don't have a ton of alumni, right
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Richmond Randall a thirty year varsity program, they have essentially
no alumni base, and so.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I don't necessarily thinks all it's only one thing.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I know the UI else paying attention to it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But I also think that AT and T Stadium feels
like the place that they're the most comfortable and right now,
from an operational and a centralized location, it is I
think the best option.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, he's great, Tepper, Editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football magazine, Happy season, my friend. We'll look forward to
reviewing week one and talking about your new rankings and
all that kind of stuff. In other words, will be
in regular season mode next week.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Oh, I'm so excited and I am excited for you
to be on our show on Thursday and ask you
a mean question.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen, one more thing before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I want to give you a chance to promote now,
because I've made mention of this, and I know you
have on social media, and I know it's going to
be a shock to the system for a lot of
Texas high school football fans that the show that you
and I were such a central part of for several
years and that I was a part of for twenty
five years doesn't exist anymore because FanDuel FanDuel Southwest chose
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not to put a crew together and pay for it
to do a high school football show, even though it was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
A profit center for them. They're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So that show that we used to do, High School
Scoreboard Live is no more. You and I I've kind
of go on different paths. I'm going to be doing
games for Victory Plus, but you and Ashley pick have
it more than an able substitute coming up this fall.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, well, I really appreciate. We're excited.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. It is going to
be scores, highlights and analysis from across the state from
folks at Daved Campbell's Texas Football, Ashley Pickle, and myself
bringing you hopefully what you come to expect from a
Friday night shows.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's what we're aiming for.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You know, you and I of course had such a
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very excited about Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. We like
to think of it as hopefully picking up the torch
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Speaker 4 (23:52):
We're very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
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Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll be locked in for I'm a hotel in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I'm looking forward to my friend.
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All right, thanks, we'll talk to you next week. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is Greg Chapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football magazine, coming up a conversation with Colin Simmons when
we continue on thirteen under the Zone
The road to football championships, both the collegiate and the
high school levels. Truly Internest begins this week welcoming back
to the program, and of course, if we're doing that,
that means it's time for our weekly conversation with the
editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. That's
Greg Tepper, who has his own road destinations this week.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Do you not?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I do. I'm on Thursday, after doing our little dog
and pony show around here at Dave Campbell's Texas Football,
We're going to load up to Dave Campbellmobile and drive
west on I twenty until we hit Abilene Beautiful Shotwell
Stadium for Wolforth's Friendships taking on Byron Nelson Across regional.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Matchup to open the season.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Because we're here, we made it like we have finally
arrived at the fireworks factory.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There are more.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Than eight thousand Texas high school football games on the
docket over the next seventeen weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Then I'll be I'll be in attendance of one of
them on Thursday night, and it's it's going to be
very exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
More important question here is the White Elephant Truck stop
in Cisco still open, because if it is that you
go to, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
To report back.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm presently being bullied by other members of the staff
to stop at Mary's Cafe and straw and on the way.
So we're there there, we will. There may be a
couple of stops. It may take us longer than than
would be a direct route to get to Abilene.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
For you know, for cultural purposes, I would say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For yeah, I sorted to say Mary's Cafe isn't exactly
on the way, but I can certainly understand the detour
over there. I can certainly understand that for folks who've
never seen the larger chicken fried steak in human existence,
you need only go over to Palipito County and you'll
see it in all in glory there.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You've been there before, right, I have.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Actually never been.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I've I've heard tell Basically, it's it's one of those
things that I think on my Texas bona Fide list
is missing a check mark.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I intend to put that check mark fair on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, you need to do that, and I will tell
you this again. The argument can be made, and I
understand it, and you've heard it before that while it
may not be the best chicken fried steak in existence,
it's certainly the largest. If you get the big one,
the big one's about sounds of a truck tire. I
wouldn't exactly recommend you go there, even though you have
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a healthy appetite like me. The small one would probably
do you. The medium would definitely be more than enough
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I also the other thing about it, and like, if
we are to go to a football game after that,
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Be, as I would say, have the itis.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I would like to be a a little bit mobile,
a little bit able to enjoy myself as opposed to
being splayed out in the middle of the floor of
a Shotwell Stadium press box enjoying my opening night of
seconds high school football wishing I hadn't eaten so much
chicken fried steak.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, well, then the small ones you get your your
go to, then that's the one that's one of yours.
And by the way, if and I don't know if
the White Elephant is still open, but that was used
the in off of I twenty there at Cisco.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That was the stop off.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And you go in there and you have what's called
the trucker special, which is like in Geladas and they
got like crushed FreeDOS over the top of them or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So yeah, that's a highway. That's a highway for you.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So all of this to say that the highway to
college and and and high school state championships.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'll get that back to high school in a moment.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm gonna do what I normally do with you, and
that is I removed Texas from the equation. Okay, uh,
And in this case, I'm removing it for probably a
very good reason. And the reason is this, I want
you to pick out the collegiate game involving a Texas
school that most intrigues you this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So that's why.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Obviously I'm removing Texas Ohio State from the equation. So
I'll be up in Columbus. But because the duty calls.
But for the purposes of this conversation, what outside of
that game has your attention?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's a fair that's a fair response because otherwise, obviously
Texas and Ohio State, that's going to be that's probably
the game of the week in the nation, let alone
within the state of Texas. But there is plenty of
other really intriguing football going on across the state this
week that I'm very I'm gonna I'm going to be
keeping a close eye on a number of them. One
of them is going on in College Station on Saturday
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night when Texas A and M welcomes in a UTSA
team that you know, darn well would love to take
a scout home to San Antonio and would love to
get what would be undisputedly the biggest winning program history.
And by the way, I think they got the capability
to do it. You know, look, they're going to be
a huge underdogs obviously. I mean, this is an AAC
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team against an SEC team playing simple on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But we know that Jeff.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Trailer is going to be out there coaching rear end often.
He's going to lay it all out there because he
unders stands what a win like this could mean for
his program. And furthermore, you know, we do.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Have questions about this you team, about the sex't A
and M team.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I want to see exactly how the Marcel Read situation
kind of bears itself out. I want to see, especially
the linebacker situation, what that looks like there with Texas
A and M, and can utsa take advantage of of it.
That's one thing that I'm certainly keeping my eye on.
I am also going to be keeping an eye on
what is going to be happening, I think on Thursday
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with Houston welcoming in SFA and obviously, look again Houston's
a big favorite at home, but year two under Willie Fritz,
I would like to see this team look like the
kind of team that is making that step, that is
ready to take that next step in their development, and
against the Stephen of Austin team at the FCS level
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that is not a pushover, that is a contender. I
think within their conference. I am interested to see what's.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Going on there. Those are the two that I'm especially
interested in.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And then obviously I think the Friday night one with
Baylor welcoming in Auburn obviously a big big twelve, you know,
a Big twelve versus the SEC matchup, an SEC team
going on the road, an SEC team that I think
is there for the taking. And look, you know, if
you're a big twelve school and like you know, like Baylor,
you don't apologize for getting the SEC win. You just
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go out there and you take it and you you
you hang the banner, And so I think for Baylor
that is a really intriguing opportunity to really make a
name for themselves and say, hey, we are in fact
back to where we you know, back near the top.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Just look, we got a big Week one win against
an SEC squad in Auburn.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Those are the three that really catch my eye.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I agree with all of those choices. Two questions.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
One, is your co host Ashley Pickle fired up about
the North Texas opener against the Lamark Cardinals on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, she she hasn't shout up about it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
She's very excited about about what they've got cooking there
at at North Texas. So yeah, I think they think
should be comfortable favorites there. I want to see exactly
what that offense looks like, which is overrun an overhaul
in the off season.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And I would imagine you're probably not that intrigued by
SMU welcoming in East Texas A and M the former
Texas A and M commerce the transitional FCS program.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, you know, SMU go out there, take
care of business. I'm really interested just to see the
look on East Texas A and M just because you're right,
they have been commerce for quite some time. It will
be a new look and I'm interested to see what
that looks like. But yeah, SMU should be pretty comfortable
favorites to move to one and on here.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Greg Jepper, editor in chief Tape Campbell's Texas Football Magazine joints,
All right, let's jump to high school. Your preseason pulls
out the top twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Five in six A.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
As we always point out that it's a top twenty five,
it's a top ten in the classifications that have divisions
and they don't split into the division still the playoffs
at the six A level, But you know, I look
at at it, I look at the computer rankings from
a friend, Jerry Farest. There's lots of similarities there. How
about your thoughts on this preseason top ten? And that's
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South Lake Carol at one, North Crowley two, and of
course they're bound to go different brackets, different directions, and
it's Duncanville, Westlake, North Shore, vandergriff Alan, Katie Lake, Travis
inon Dinesota for the top ten.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, it is a really intriguing kind of top ten,
specifically because you've got this group of teams at the
top that I think would you would Claire cross By
at blue Bloods right, it's a lot of blue bloods.
Obviously North Crowley maybe and vandergriff would be the newest
blue bloods quote unquote of these groups. But they are
of course the reigning state champon deserve our respect and
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I'm excited to see what they put out there, especially
in in Week one.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Both of them a very interesting Week one openers.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But there's a couple of teams that I want to
draw your attention to, kind of lower in the top ten,
that I'm very intrigued by. One of them is a
long time program that you know for you know, people
not much you know, don't have to be a high
school football fan for long to remember when Allen was
ruling the roost in six A. I think Allen's back
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in a big way, and I think what Lee Wigginson
is building there is maybe a vintage Allen team that
is going to be a legitimate contender. I think in
six A Division one, they are that good. They are deep,
they are talented, They're going to be exceptional defensively.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I'm interested in that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And the other one is, again you don't have to
think far, go back far when Katie was the Kings
in the Houston area and obviously won the twenty twenty
state championship. People may forget that because I think we've
all kind of tried to push that out of our minds.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
But you think about what.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Katie I think has has it's been a minute since
aside from twenty twenty, they kind of ruled the Houston roosts.
North Shore has taken that kind of that mantle as
the program of record in.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The Houston area.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, I think Katie's back in a big way, and
I think this might be Gary Joseph's best team in
a decade or so. I'm really excited about. They're very
good in a lot of the Katie ways.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
ISAAMH.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
McMillan leads the way on the defensive side. Jeremiah Smith
is just an old school linebacker that is going to
be a lot of fun to watch. And they're going
to run the stink and ball and simple and so
that's what really.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Catches my eye.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
In the six A top ten, yes, of course, Southlake
Carol Wou've talked about them for quite a while. They'd
fall in that category of maybe a blue blood of
yesteryear that's having a revival. A lot of the usual
suspects there, but especially Alan and Katie.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
They may be kind of.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
On the upswing, and the trajectory may be such that
this may be a year where they are capital b back.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay, all right now before we jump to our six
man previews. To close out of previews, we'll do what
we always do. We always call it the cruelest, meanest
thing we do each week is I give you the
choice of three games, and you tell me which one
really intrigues you, the one that's your most If you
could transport to one and had to be at one,
which would it be?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All right, I'm going to give you the choice of these.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
In six A Westlake prosper in UH five A Division one,
simply because of the number one team Alito against Denton Geyer.
I think that's the our telecast on victory plus.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I won't be there obviously. I think Josh Bograd will
be on the call for that, but it'll be that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So there's that five A Division two South O'cliff against
from six A north Shore, and then just just is
a bonus for a Division two Carthage kill Gore.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You're yeah, yeah, well that's brutal. We are very back
my friend doing radio.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Okay, the answer is probably Carthage and Killgore, just because
these are just the team that played for state championship
last year in Kilgore and a team that won the
state championship last year in Carthage. And and the star
power here is absurd for a four four a game,
but all four of them are really really interesting. Obviously,
the North Shore South Okcliff game has big name brand potential.
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I'm interested to seeing what a new look North Short
team looks like going.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Remember this is even Dudley Harris County very often, and
I'm interested except for basically to come to Arlington.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I'm interested to see what they look like. And then
you mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Alito getting guyer. What does the guy or offense look like?
They're basically a mystery and is this an Alito year
where they are back to their their normal self they
start the year number one? This would certainly kind of
cement themselves as the team to beat in five day
Division one. But then you mentioned the local game, and
of local in you know, air quotes because being played
in Belton and mary Hart and Baylor, but.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Prosper and Westlake.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is a real take your eye off the ball
type game because I think Prosper might have the best
offensive line in Texas with Baden Crimpen leading the way.
They've got three fbs that commits on the offensive line,
which is insane going up against Maddi Splint and a
defense there led by coach by coach Tony.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Salazar that we know it's going to be good, so
they're all great.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I will go with Carfudge and Kilgore as the game
that that you got to be at. But but it
is a it's a whopper Week one of Texas IG school.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Football, absolutely no question match.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, let's let's move to our six man previews, because
we previewed every classification, so now we're down to one
A six man Division one, one A six man Division two,
the two divisions of six man. Is it too simplistic
to say it's a run it back for both Gordon
and Jaydon in six AD one In six A D two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It is going to be very hard, I think, to
pick against either of these teams to go to win
another state championship. Obviously be three in a row for
Gordon and then it will be a back to back
for Jayden. I do think that Gordon is a borderline
prohibitive favorite in one A Division one.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I mean they have.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Three potential FBS guys there with Ry Reid who is
committed to Army, Striker Reid who's committed to Air Force,
and now Brad Walters their wide receiver. Who you talk
with coach Mikereed, he'll tell you that they might be
the best. He might be invest of the bunch. Now
they have a really interesting first week test against the
Richland Springs team that could be on that short list.
And one A Division two two up in Jaydon is
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a good Jaydon team with Sean Standalon their quarterback back,
the coach's kid leading the way. But I do think
that there are two legitimate threats to the throne. I
think for Jaydon one of them is Lemisa Klondike, coached
by Dalton de Graff and Red and he's only like
twenty eight and driving me nuts. I covered him in
high school. But he has got a team this year.
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They have a they had a really awes non district ship.
I think they started to year like one in four
or zero and four. They ran through a brutal non
district schedule and then got white hot towards the end
took their lumps. I'm interested in Clyde I and they're
Richland Springs, Richinald Springs absolutely fascinating this year for a
couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
One of them, they're very very good guys like Billy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Cohen, Billy Cohen Lee in the Way or Billy Perry
and Cohen athrisly in the Way. But also who's coaching them,
because you may remember a few years ago Jerry Burkhardt.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Was suspended for three years. That was three years ago.
But we do not know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It is an open question as to who is going
to be coaching Richland Springs this year. You know, we
understand that Sean Rodger is the guy who's been there
coach in the last few years. That's what we think
it's to me, But there is there the chance that
that you've got, you know, one of the most decorated
coaches in the six man football history just wandering up
to the sideline and coaching the Coyos this year. So
fascinating there and I think one A Division two probably
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the road to Arlington is more treacherous for Jaydon than
it is from Gordon, who looks like the clear team
the people won a Division one.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know what, maybe maybe I did six man at
the service. Maybe in those games that I made you
choose one, maybe I should have included Gordon versus Richland
Springs this week.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Hey, I'll throw another one at you. Is I believe
Do I have this correct?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I believe Abbott is opening the season against Ogle Speed again,
which is a terrific top five matchup in six man
as well.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Fascinating.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The thing about six man is that all these teams,
they're all these coaches that there's just not enough teams
for you to run away.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
From from our money, So like you're going to.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
End up with some absolutely wropper first round or for
you know, non district matchups, and and week one is
chopped full of them.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Final thing I want to get to here, Uh, I've
been meaning to ask you this for for about two
or three weeks now, and keep forgetting to do it.
But I'm going to do it because you're your Your
staff did a very good job of presenting multiple opinions, perspectives,
and and and comments on this whole issue of whether
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the state championship should remain at AT and T Stadium.
There are those who have San Antonio's interest at heart
and talk about that in the Alamodome.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Uh, there're those who talk about the n.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
RG and in Houston and uh, you know those kinds
of things. So I'm curious to get your thought as
the US starts to settle again, because to me, it
seemed like a FATA complete that we would ultimately see
or hear that the u I L has has reupted
with Jerry World again and that it's going to continue there.
But until it's official, it didn't official. So how about
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your thoughts on all of that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, so I think you're hearing the same rumblings that
I am, that that there is a deal that is imminent,
therefore an extension to the existing deal for the state
champions to remain at AT and T Stadium in Arlington.
I will tell you, and I know you know this,
that the that the Oil likes playing at and T Stadium,
playing a simple and they don't. They don't rotate. You'll
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notice that other UIL state championships don't rotate, like the
soccer Sea Championship are always in Georgetown, you know, the
baseball state championships always in round rock.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Uh, they they don't rotate them.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Obviously, football is a different beast than a lot of
those other UIL sports.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And I think that one of the things.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That I have learned throughout the course of this debate
is I understand where people are coming from. They're saying, Hey,
why should a team from Why should when Galena Park
Northshore plays Duncanville every single year? You know, theoretically, why
does Galena Park North Shore always have to go on
the road and drive up the road while Duncanville get
to sleep in their bed? And I understand what they're saying.
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There's a couple of things. I think it's just not
quite as simple as that. Specifically, and this is the
this gets into real nerdy stuff here, but the locker
room situation at these stadiums are not equal. The locker
room situation specifically at a teen and T stadium was
it's essentially a stadium built to host the event because
they've got multiple full sized locker rooms that you can
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bring in the team that's playing in a three o'clock
game while the eleven o'clock game is going on, and
you don't have to move the teams that are currently
playing out of their locker room. That's one thing that
I think is going on there. I think there need
to be some renovations to the Alamo now for that
to happen as well. I know that that was a
real sticking point when it was at NRG in two
thousand fifteen. I understand, and we did a survey of
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coaches on Texas Football dot Com and the to be clear,
a plurality of coaches, about forty five percent of coaches
wanted to remain permanently of AT and T Stadium, but
there is a decent minority about a twenty to twenty
five percent of coaches we surveyed that said they would
like to see a rotation between between the three Dome stadiums,
and so I think the UIL will continue to listen
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to them, but for now, it does feel like they're
comfortable they're at AT and T Stadium, and until I
think there are some renovation to those other stadiums that
make the UH operational part of it a little bit
more equal, I think.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
They're gonna they're they're happy there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
In Ireland, Yeah, I would say this if there was
either on the north side of the I thirty five
corridor of the Greater Austin area, or the east side
off the two ninety, or the south side if there
was a thirty thousand seat dome stadium there, the state
championships would be in Austin every year and we would
never hear anything more about it, simply because they'd like
to have them in the headquarters city.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
As you laid out, whatever possible.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, they like being in Austin, they like they understand
the central location of it. But it's also worth mentioning that,
like to your point, if we did this study a
couple of years ago, that if you take all the
UIL member schools and you put together, the average distance
to the three dome stadiums, AT and T Stadium is
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the most central, is the most central on average, and
is the most central to the most number of teams.
And so that I think, I think, like we think
of a lot about Houston driving to DFW and San
Antonio driving DFW, and I get that, but there's a
whole West Texas guys at West Texas at and T Stadium.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Is the closest for those teams.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I think we kind of take for granted how far
south San Antonio is and how far.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
East Houston is.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
DFW is a little bit more central. I think of
the three stadium it is the most central to the
most number of teams.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I think that's appealing to the UIL as all well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And we'll put it in as simplest too, the fans,
fans of the Panhandle schools stay away from Houston and
San Antonio and droves if their school is not in it,
as evidenced by more than one hundred thousand fans if
you were in attendance at the twenty fifteen games at
NRG as opposed to the ones at AT and T Stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, the numbers, and I know that there is some concerns,
certainly because the numbers the past couple of years have
been slipping. I think that you look, I don't want
to get into a whole thing, but part of that
is certainly the teams that were playing this past year.
For example, Vandergrats a terrific story, but a young program,
and they just don't have a ton of alumni, right
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Richmond Randall a thirty year varsity program, they have essentially
no alumni base, and so.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I don't necessarily thinks all it's only one thing.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I know the UI else paying attention to it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But I also think that AT and T Stadium feels
like the place that they're the most comfortable and right now,
from an operational and a centralized location, it is I
think the best option.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, he's great, Tepper, Editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football magazine, Happy season, my friend. We'll look forward to
reviewing week one and talking about your new rankings and
all that kind of stuff. In other words, will be
in regular season mode next week.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Oh, I'm so excited and I am excited for you
to be on our show on Thursday and ask you
a mean question.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen, one more thing before I let you go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I want to give you a chance to promote now,
because I've made mention of this, and I know you
have on social media, and I know it's going to
be a shock to the system for a lot of
Texas high school football fans that the show that you
and I were such a central part of for several
years and that I was a part of for twenty
five years doesn't exist anymore because FanDuel FanDuel Southwest chose
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not to put a crew together and pay for it
to do a high school football show, even though it was.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
A profit center for them. They're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So that show that we used to do, High School
Scoreboard Live is no more. You and I I've kind
of go on different paths. I'm going to be doing
games for Victory Plus, but you and Ashley pick have
it more than an able substitute coming up this fall.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, well, I really appreciate. We're excited.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. It is going to
be scores, highlights and analysis from across the state from
folks at Daved Campbell's Texas Football, Ashley Pickle, and myself
bringing you hopefully what you come to expect from a
Friday night shows.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's what we're aiming for.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You know, you and I of course had such a
great time there on High School Scoreboard Live. I'm very,
very excited about Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. We like
to think of it as hopefully picking up the torch
and continuing that tradition of outstanding Friday night recap show,
and we're excited to do at ten thirty pm Friday night.
The great thing is free wherever you stream, whether it's YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
(23:50):
on Dave Campbell's textan live.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
We're very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So ten thirty pm Friday night, lock in for your
your statewide recap show from David Campbell's Texas Football.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll be locked in for I'm a hotel in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I'm looking forward to my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
All right, thanks, we'll talk to you next week. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is Greg Chapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football magazine, coming up a conversation with Colin Simmons when
we continue on thirteen under the Zone
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