September 23, 2025 • 23 mins
Each week, DCTF Editor-in-Chief Greg Tepper joins the program to discuss all things football in the Lone Star State.
Today, Greg and Craig discuss Texas Tech's progress under Joey McGuire, North Texas' overtime win over Army, and a busy slate of high school football to keep an eye on over the weekend.
Today, Greg and Craig discuss Texas Tech's progress under Joey McGuire, North Texas' overtime win over Army, and a busy slate of high school football to keep an eye on over the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here on this section Tuesday, the iconic Willie Nelson with
some whiskey river rolling back. And maybe it's only apropos
that that's the point where we have Greg Tepper, or
the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine,
not because he's a regular whiskey and biber, although although
if the truth were known, mister Tepper and yours truly
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have sipped on a fifteen year old single malt Scotch
whiskey in the past, have we not? We have.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I believe we toasted the twenty twenty world champion Los
Angeles Dodgers as we did that. Yes, it's memory serves. Yes,
we tipped one back a time or two. It has been,
it should be said, so I'm not ashamed of that.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was even thinking about summer twenty twenty four at
coaching school after the I guess it was Saturday night
or whatever, and you were surrounded by your people because
they they they follow you at your every step for
the magazine, and you were you were there and you
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had a drink in your hand.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. I walked
up to the bar.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I came back and I said try this and it
was a fifteen year old Yeah talent.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I think.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think, yeah, you go to to the to the
listeners out there. If you ever do have the opportunity
to be at the same bar with Craig Way, I
do highly recommend it. It's it's like, I don't know,
it's kind of like if you've ever flown stand By.
You're flying stand By and then suddenly they just say, oh,
well sir, we happen to have this, uh, this first
class ticket available for you to uh. Then yeah, that's
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that's what it's like with whatever. You just end up
in the same in the same bar with Craigway. He uh. Somehow, somehow,
you'll you'll get upgraded, you know what I mean. You'll
you'll you'll find your you'll find yourself in a better
situation than you were previous.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, So this is a perfect transition then, because I
was going to talk about things like upgrading in status
because in the Dave Campbell Texas Football Magazine a FBS
Power Poll, Texas A and M still holds on to
the one that one spot Texas is no longer number
two being upgraded. The Texas Tech Red Raiders four and oh,
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they're now number two in the poll, with Texas at
number three. And by the way, I know a lot
of folks in these parts are really proud of the
former huddo hit a hippo Will Hammond, a quarterback for
the Red Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And let me tell you that I think you've heard.
I'm sure people have heard the talk about Texas Tech
over the course of the past few days. It is
this is that game on Saturday against Utah is probably,
I think among the most important wins for Texas Tech
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in recent memory. And here's what I mean by it,
because it did, I think shatter so many of the
longstanding conventions about Texas Tech. But Okay, you can't win
against a ranked team on the road, Well they just did.
And okay, well, you can't win a game where it's
a game about physicality and not finesse or not firepower,
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well they just did. You can't win a game a
defensive battle that is going to be based on coming
up with big defensive plays and and and field position,
well they just did. Uh. That is, you can't win
if you go in there and you'll lose your most
you lose your starting quarterbacks. Certainly that'sn't dead sentence. Well,
they just did everything that Texas Tech has been. All
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those monkeys felt like they came off of the back
of the Saturday last Saturday in Utah, and it was
really remarkable to see. And I think that even in
the postgame interview that you saw with Joey McGuire, he
kind of understood the gravity of the situation and said, oh,
we've done something that that Technic Tech doesn't usually and
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hasn't done in quite a while. You know, you hear
about that that this year is different. This year was
like it could be very different. And right now, you know,
they get an open date and then they get really
into the heart of Big twelve season and it's hard
to look up and down that schedule and be sure
that they're going to lose the game. I mean, they've
got to you know, the trip at Arizona State looms.
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I think that's the game that's certainly going to trouble,
could be tough. And then they're at Kansas State. Those
are the two toughest road games they get by us,
maybe their most their most difficult you know on paper test. Well,
they get them in Lubbock right now for texta text.
It feels like it's all right there in front of them,
and it's all started with what I thought was an
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inspired performance there in provo.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Here's where I am with Joey McGuire, and we both
have known him a long time, even going back that
called three of a state championship games when he was
at Cedar Hill. He's he always has had an unshakable
belief and confidence in his skill as a head coach
at how to get the right field. Now, now I
would say that they're there is some proof of concept there,
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that there is the fact that he's got even more
for his guys to believe in. And yes, people can
downplay it all they want, but with that nil bank roll,
that's going going their way as well. Now he has
that momentum ball rolling where he can just kind of,
you like to use a defensive line mentality, pin your
ears back and go after the quarterback. He can coach
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the way we saw him coach at the high school level,
modified for the collegiate game.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, and and I agree with you he has certainly
kind of become a bit of a chameleon and and
said and found a way to build a team that
that looks like a winner. And there is going to
be a lot of talk and I understand it about
specifically all of the you know, the the transfers they
got in and the nil and that, and certainly that
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is true. I would also say to you, hey, let's
take a look at the a lot of the guys
who are starring for this team, and a lot of
these guys were either recruited by John MacGuire or they
are Texans that had come home. I mean, to me,
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the story is that this is in many respects a
very Texan team. Look at the guy, Look at the
quarterback who started the year, Baron Morton in East Flynn
of product. Well, they lose their starting quarterback. We don't
know for how long, but certainly they bring in their
backup Will Hammond. A houtto guy right who was the
real star of the running game recently, Cameron Dickey out
of Crockett High School. Right. And then you go and
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you look on the defensive side, which has been such
a revelation for them. Shield would I think their defensive
coordinator has been I think one of the rising stars
in college football in the past couple of years. And
who was the star of the defenses past year or
in the past week. It was Jacob Rodriguez, their linebacker
from which Tom falls Ryder. This is a true Texan
team that they've built. And yet you know a couple
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of those guys specifically, you know Rodriguez was a transfer.
He was from Virginia, but he comes home and take
to join the tax to Tech team and he has
he has really helped to elevate this defense. I just
think that when you take a look at this roster,
we said it in the in the outset before the
season that Texa Tech from a roster perspective looked like
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the most talented team in the Big twelve. Right now,
four games and it's hard to argue that that is
two far off base. Still ways to go, but I
would say right now for Texa Tech, it's pretty much
as good as it's been.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Talking football in the State of Texas with Greg Tepper,
editor in chief Dave Campill's Texas Football Magazine. Let me
ask you about three of the four private FBS programs, s,
m U and TCU. We're hearing that probably they will
never see the skillet game again.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Never is a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But but there's that, and then and then of course
Baylor falling a tough game on the walk off field
goal day Arizona State. What do you what's your take
on those three programs right down?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, then you know, first of all, to take your
first part, I think we'll see TCUs and you again.
It's too good of a rivalry. I think eventually, like
everyone's gonna cost of settle in and realize how much
they miss each other, and they're gonna end up playing again.
It'll happen. But I do think that you know, for TCU,
we said before the season that we felt like this
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was a really important season for them, And what I
think has been really impressive for them is that offensively,
it does feel like they've figured things out. And Josh Hoover,
speaking of you know, Texas products, the Rockwall Heath kid
has been one of the best quarterbacks in the Big Twelve.
I mean, he has been terrific. You know, he's completing
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almost seventy percent of his passes, he's taking care of
the football. He has been terrific. And I think you
add in what is a revitalized receiver corps with Eric
McCallister and Jordan Dwyer and Joseph May and Jack and
this is a dangerous offense. And I think that you know,
last week against SMU, uh they fell down. SMU fell
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down early, and they fought back, but every time they
fought back, TCU had a CounterPunch, and that I think
has been kind of the issue for them the past
couple of years is that they take it. They take
a punch and they'd have to kind of load up
to get ready to punch back. There was an immediate
and immediate response and an immediate resiliency. I think from
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the tasties you team that I think really bodes well
for them heading in to the heart of conference play.
And then for Baylor. You know that that's a disappointing loss.
I think against Arizona State, this is a team that,
you know, they're really hard to get a read on
because they've got the two losses that I don't think
you can necessarily, you know, say too much more about,
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you know, the loss of Auburn. I think it's aged ok.
You know, they lose on the last second field goal
to Arizona State. I think everything is still out in
front of them. But the issue is going to be
the defense is going to be a problem all year long.
This has been that's been a real issue for them
early and it's going to continue to be an issue.
This is a team that's giving up nearly five and
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a half yards per play. They are giving up four
yards to carry. This team is defensively going to have
some issues. They're gonna have to outscore their problems. Now.
I do think that they've got the guy and sorry
Robertson certainly to do that, and some of the playmakers
they've got, like Josh Cameron on the outside, you know,
the Bryce and Washington has been a real revelation for
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running back spot for them, the Franklin kid. But I
see that defense is ultimately what's going to hold them
back and keep them from achieving the kind of stuff
that we thought might be available to them in the outset,
specifically contending for a baseball championship. This still could be
a team that finished eighty four or something like that.
But I think that unless that defense figures something out
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that we just haven't seen through the first quarter of
the first third of the season, it does feel like
that's going to hold them backs moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A bigger surprise to you North Texas who you now
have as your highest ranked G six school at four
and oh or Rice at three and one.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Hey how about your Rice house? Yea got Abel has
said has installed that kind of if you haven't seen
Rice play football, they're a fun looking offense right now.
They are. They're running the ball. They have the fifteenth
best rushing offense in all of college football, you know,
averaging nearly two or fifty yards per game on the ground.
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They're a lot of fun. And now I will say
that I think you take a look at who they've
beaten so far, you know, with preview A and M
Charlotte Louisiana. Rice is not in the position to start
apologizing for wins. But I will say that it does
feel like the heart of the schedule is really going
to start coming up, most notably starting this week when
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they traveled to take on a Navy team that you know,
you want to talk about running the name. All that
game might be out, might be over forty five minutes,
but I would say, for it's got to be North Texas.
I mean, now, last week they tried very hard to
spit the bit against.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Army Boyd boy did that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They they were That was a game I turned off
I was like, Oh, they're in control. Nothing to see here.
And then suddenly I got a text message actually from
our executive producer and uh and and North Texas alum
Ashley Pickle, who said, Hey, you might want to turn
this game back on. It's it's getting too close for comfort.
But they ended up pulling out the win. And the
bottom line is that this offense is going to be
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incredibly difficult to stop because Drew Mastmaker is playing at
an extremely high level. McKenzie the guild looks like he
is the real deal at the running back spot. And
then they've got a trio of wide receivers in Wyatt Young,
Cameron Dorner and Miles Coleman, a name that I know
folks down there in that part of the world remember fondly.
They can play and playstimvil. The other thing that is
impressive to me about their defense, and I know they
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gave up a bunch of yards late in that game's army,
but they take the ball away. They are they are,
they are bouncing on mistakes and they take them all away.
As long as they do that, they are going to
be a true contender, not just in the American but
if you're a. If you're contender in the American you're
continued to grab that gee five spot in the in
the college football playoffs and that point, you know, we're
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talking to heavy stuff. A lot of room between now
and then, but for now, it's it couldn't they're there
for North Texas. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The funny thing is everybody remembers Miles Coleman playing, uh,
playing there for Vandergriff. What they may forget is that
Drew Mestamaker was the starting strong safety for Vandergrift. He
was the backup quarterback. This is the starting safety, yeah,
for Drew Sanders, who had pretty good quarterback running the
show at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And now they've got a nice connection going to Denton.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Talking and that will
help us transitional high school football. Talking to Greg Tepper here,
editor in chief Take Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Bigger Upsets
walks at you for Dunkinville, rock all over North Crowley.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's probably it's probably walked Atchie over in Duncanville for
a couple of reasons. First of all, it's district game.
It's a district ball game, and that obviously resonates in
a huge way. Furthermore, this is a North Crowley team,
I think just because we'd seen more of them. Dungeville
only played one game, so it's still kind of a mystery.
But North Crowley had looked shaky. They kind of I
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said this in other places, Nor Crowley kind of played
with fire and escaped. They played with fire and they
finally got burned this week, and against a good rock
ball team that I think went out there and played
pretty fearlessly. But for Walks at Hatchie, this is a
pretty seismic win for Shane Pollinson's ball club and to
go out there and to now take an opportunity to
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really take command of Districts eleven six A if they
can beat the Soto this week, which they have here
to have gotten the Wheels a little bit more back
on than their first two weeks, you know. But I
think you've got CCU commit at quarterback and Jerry Meyer
you have, and more importantly, you have got any defense,
a thumping, thunderous defense led by Jake Wan Snell who
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laid the end of the year on a fourth down
to really seal that victory for Watsahatchie. I think that
this is a walkstashy team at times to start really
paying attention to I think they announced themselves to the
state last week when their win over duncan Billy it
was it was really impressive.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Let me get your thoughts on this is.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I asked you for a measuring stick about Southlake, Carol
and clearly you know a little over a week ago,
and clearly what about Allen who you've moved up so high.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Now in the ranking.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So this is this has been a point of contention
around the day of Campbells Texas Football Offices because right now,
and this is strange to say, but since Division one
feels about as wide open as it's ever felt in
quite some time, because it's normally we're on some sort
of march towards Duncanville North Shore right now. Last week
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last year obviously there was some pretty shifting sands there
where you were able to get North Crowley and West Lake. Well,
right now we project West Lay to go Division two.
Obviously this year twenty six six A is going to
play out and we'll figure out where that goes. So
then it really opens up in the six d A.
Division one at North Crowley stated Duncanville has lost, North
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Bill Glean Park north Shore has lost. And I'm here
to tell you that Alan might be the favorite in
sixth Day Division One. At least through the first four weeks.
They have been dominant. They have been exceptional defensively, and
they are humming right now. The way that they're playing,
They're going to be awfully hard to beat because I
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think that this is just a year in six A
Division one that opened up for them. You know a
lot of the contenders. And it's a strange thing to
say because in the past few years we kind of
considered six d A Division one to be the I don't
want to say superior bracket, but a lot of the
very best teams, the highest ranked teams, have ended up
going to the sixth A Division one bracket. This is
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a situation this year in which we may end up
having a lot more teams go into sixth eight Division two.
And if that's the case, then things open up for
a team like Alan, where I think that that the
sky is the limit for them. Busy team is playing
exceptional football, and in a in a a universe, in
a in a world where the a lot of the
sixth Day Division one teams have shown some flaws right now.
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The best team in sixthy Division one for the first
four weeks I think has been the Alan Eagles, which
I know for for folks who who maybe missed the
Kyler Murray era, this feels awfully familiar. So this is
this is a pair of shotes you slip right back into.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's a good point. Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Let me uh, let me get your thoughts on the
meanest thing we do each week, as we say, have
you uh transferred you? You have your choice of three games,
and you can choose to I will uh uh say
that one of the ones I give to you when
you do it to me on Thursday, you will not
include it because it's the game I'm calling uh for
victory PLASFA. We'll start with six A and I will
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ask you, uh if if you had your choice, would
it be Waksatchi de Sota in uh six A?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Would it be in four A Division one, number one
Solina against number six Frisco Panther Creek both are unbeaten
and uh?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And then the third where did I do with my
third one? I had it written down here? Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
What did I do? With my third one. I had
a third one went to the wrong division here, Uh,
the the third choice? Oh yeah, I know what it
was going to be third choice road game for Pleasant Grove,
coming off the loss at home to Kilgore, going to
six ranks Sunnydale.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That that was. That was the third choice I had.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
So that's a whales ball game too, And it's a
pleas and grow of an opportunity to reset against the
sun But sun Vale is a team that's playing exceptionally
well right now and I'm excited to see what they do.
My answer is probably gonna be the game that you're
on the call for there with Slim and Tanta Cree.
That's a wail of a ball game. And what's funny
is that if four A, you know, obviously, you know
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every comic book is somebody's first. Four A is the
third largest classification in Texas high school football. And yet
from a prospect perspective, I mean, if you're a recruit, Nick,
it doesn't get a whole lot better than this. You
have Boventley, the Oklahoma commit. You have got the logan
goodiere as Lupia Jeanie, They've got the line is loaded,
a big offensive line going up against guys like Jalen
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a lot right, this this is a loaded Donovan Webb,
the Texas Tech comment at safety. This is a loaded
Panther Creek team with frontline talent. I am really excited.
And and by the way, it is of course a
district bull game, which is going to make this all
the more important because the the winner of this game
will at the very least be in the driver's seat
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to win the district of the district title, get that
number one seed in the playoffs. The loser still has
to face, by the way, a very difficult district. It's
not like it gets a whole lot easier from here
in that very difficult and deep district. But I think
that that ball game between Flana and Panther Creek has
an opportunity to really steal the show. I will be
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listening to your adult tones on Friday night because that
is a that's a heck of a ball game. And
if you're a high school football fan's a great game.
And if you are a recruiting and you're just saying, oh,
I want to watch some of the best players in
the state who are going to be playing at the
next level. Lock in for this one because this is
going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Free on the Victory Sports app, followed by Temper and
Pickle there on the Victory Sports App at ten thirty
and online at Texas Football dot com for the complete
recap of all of Hey, you know what scares me?
Here's here's enough to shake you to your foundation. Bill Elliott,
the head coach at Salona, great guy, told me this
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morning that Solina is growing by one hundred and eighty
people a week and that uh and that in the
next realignment there'll be a.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Five A, which I know your guys have written about.
He said.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
By the end of the decade, we're going to be
a six A and maybe a six A Division one
program s line.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now is it's insane that the growth out there. When
we wrote the story, they're the gatefold feature in data
Campbell Texas Football the summer edition and they are the
fastest growing city in America, and it is it is
shocking if you have not been in Salina, even in
like the last like eighteen months, it is almost unrecognizable
out there. The growth out there is incredible. And you know,
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people people who remember Solana as being this like small
school powerhouse. Uh huh, not anymore, guys. This is this
is the last year of quote unquote small school Salina
because it is only up from here.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Uh. He said, this is how he knows they're exploding.
They're getting an AGB now, so that's that's.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
How I know. Okay, well, that's then at that point,
at that point, might as well get an airport.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Right, catch tepper and pickle there on front. That and
you should subscribe at Texas Football dot Com. Get you
content access, access to watch Texan live telecasts and everything
else as well. Hey, I appreciate it, and we'll look
forward to the next time.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Aro out.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
My friends.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, thanks, all right, that's Greg Chapper, editor in
chief Dave Candils Texas Football Max. There are little bit
of airports out there in Collin County and Denton County
out in the area. They might need a bigger one
now with all the explosive growth of Frisco. And I
did say when I was talking with the Frisco head coach,
Clint Serrata, said, uh, factor fiction. If you stand on
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any roof in the city limits of Frisco and go
turn around three hundred and sixty degrees you'll see four
or five high schools. He said, that's an absolute fact.
They twelve high schools, twelve five A high schools in Frisco.
He said, we're just all around one another. All right,
We'll continue when we get right here on the Sports
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Here on this section Tuesday, the iconic Willie Nelson with
some whiskey river rolling back. And maybe it's only apropos
that that's the point where we have Greg Tepper, or
the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine,
not because he's a regular whiskey and biber, although although
if the truth were known, mister Tepper and yours truly
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have sipped on a fifteen year old single malt Scotch
whiskey in the past, have we not? We have.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I believe we toasted the twenty twenty world champion Los
Angeles Dodgers as we did that. Yes, it's memory serves. Yes,
we tipped one back a time or two. It has been,
it should be said, so I'm not ashamed of that.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I was even thinking about summer twenty twenty four at
coaching school after the I guess it was Saturday night
or whatever, and you were surrounded by your people because
they they they follow you at your every step for
the magazine, and you were you were there and you
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had a drink in your hand.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. I walked
up to the bar.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I came back and I said try this and it
was a fifteen year old Yeah talent.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I think.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think, yeah, you go to to the to the
listeners out there. If you ever do have the opportunity
to be at the same bar with Craig Way, I
do highly recommend it. It's it's like, I don't know,
it's kind of like if you've ever flown stand By.
You're flying stand By and then suddenly they just say, oh,
well sir, we happen to have this, uh, this first
class ticket available for you to uh. Then yeah, that's
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that's what it's like with whatever. You just end up
in the same in the same bar with Craigway. He uh. Somehow, somehow,
you'll you'll get upgraded, you know what I mean. You'll
you'll you'll find your you'll find yourself in a better
situation than you were previous.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, So this is a perfect transition then, because I
was going to talk about things like upgrading in status
because in the Dave Campbell Texas Football Magazine a FBS
Power Poll, Texas A and M still holds on to
the one that one spot Texas is no longer number
two being upgraded. The Texas Tech Red Raiders four and oh,
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they're now number two in the poll, with Texas at
number three. And by the way, I know a lot
of folks in these parts are really proud of the
former huddo hit a hippo Will Hammond, a quarterback for
the Red Raiders.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And let me tell you that I think you've heard.
I'm sure people have heard the talk about Texas Tech
over the course of the past few days. It is
this is that game on Saturday against Utah is probably,
I think among the most important wins for Texas Tech
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in recent memory. And here's what I mean by it,
because it did, I think shatter so many of the
longstanding conventions about Texas Tech. But Okay, you can't win
against a ranked team on the road, Well they just did.
And okay, well, you can't win a game where it's
a game about physicality and not finesse or not firepower,
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well they just did. You can't win a game a
defensive battle that is going to be based on coming
up with big defensive plays and and and field position,
well they just did. Uh. That is, you can't win
if you go in there and you'll lose your most
you lose your starting quarterbacks. Certainly that'sn't dead sentence. Well,
they just did everything that Texas Tech has been. All
(03:33):
those monkeys felt like they came off of the back
of the Saturday last Saturday in Utah, and it was
really remarkable to see. And I think that even in
the postgame interview that you saw with Joey McGuire, he
kind of understood the gravity of the situation and said, oh,
we've done something that that Technic Tech doesn't usually and
(03:55):
hasn't done in quite a while. You know, you hear
about that that this year is different. This year was
like it could be very different. And right now, you know,
they get an open date and then they get really
into the heart of Big twelve season and it's hard
to look up and down that schedule and be sure
that they're going to lose the game. I mean, they've
got to you know, the trip at Arizona State looms.
(04:16):
I think that's the game that's certainly going to trouble,
could be tough. And then they're at Kansas State. Those
are the two toughest road games they get by us,
maybe their most their most difficult you know on paper test. Well,
they get them in Lubbock right now for texta text.
It feels like it's all right there in front of them,
and it's all started with what I thought was an
(04:38):
inspired performance there in provo.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Here's where I am with Joey McGuire, and we both
have known him a long time, even going back that
called three of a state championship games when he was
at Cedar Hill. He's he always has had an unshakable
belief and confidence in his skill as a head coach
at how to get the right field. Now, now I
would say that they're there is some proof of concept there,
(05:02):
that there is the fact that he's got even more
for his guys to believe in. And yes, people can
downplay it all they want, but with that nil bank roll,
that's going going their way as well. Now he has
that momentum ball rolling where he can just kind of,
you like to use a defensive line mentality, pin your
ears back and go after the quarterback. He can coach
(05:24):
the way we saw him coach at the high school level,
modified for the collegiate game.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, and and I agree with you he has certainly
kind of become a bit of a chameleon and and
said and found a way to build a team that
that looks like a winner. And there is going to
be a lot of talk and I understand it about
specifically all of the you know, the the transfers they
got in and the nil and that, and certainly that
(05:52):
is true. I would also say to you, hey, let's
take a look at the a lot of the guys
who are starring for this team, and a lot of
these guys were either recruited by John MacGuire or they
are Texans that had come home. I mean, to me,
(06:12):
the story is that this is in many respects a
very Texan team. Look at the guy, Look at the
quarterback who started the year, Baron Morton in East Flynn
of product. Well, they lose their starting quarterback. We don't
know for how long, but certainly they bring in their
backup Will Hammond. A houtto guy right who was the
real star of the running game recently, Cameron Dickey out
of Crockett High School. Right. And then you go and
(06:34):
you look on the defensive side, which has been such
a revelation for them. Shield would I think their defensive
coordinator has been I think one of the rising stars
in college football in the past couple of years. And
who was the star of the defenses past year or
in the past week. It was Jacob Rodriguez, their linebacker
from which Tom falls Ryder. This is a true Texan
team that they've built. And yet you know a couple
(06:56):
of those guys specifically, you know Rodriguez was a transfer.
He was from Virginia, but he comes home and take
to join the tax to Tech team and he has
he has really helped to elevate this defense. I just
think that when you take a look at this roster,
we said it in the in the outset before the
season that Texa Tech from a roster perspective looked like
(07:17):
the most talented team in the Big twelve. Right now,
four games and it's hard to argue that that is
two far off base. Still ways to go, but I
would say right now for Texa Tech, it's pretty much
as good as it's been.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Talking football in the State of Texas with Greg Tepper,
editor in chief Dave Campill's Texas Football Magazine. Let me
ask you about three of the four private FBS programs, s,
m U and TCU. We're hearing that probably they will
never see the skillet game again.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Never is a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But but there's that, and then and then of course
Baylor falling a tough game on the walk off field
goal day Arizona State. What do you what's your take
on those three programs right down?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, then you know, first of all, to take your
first part, I think we'll see TCUs and you again.
It's too good of a rivalry. I think eventually, like
everyone's gonna cost of settle in and realize how much
they miss each other, and they're gonna end up playing again.
It'll happen. But I do think that you know, for TCU,
we said before the season that we felt like this
(08:23):
was a really important season for them, And what I
think has been really impressive for them is that offensively,
it does feel like they've figured things out. And Josh Hoover,
speaking of you know, Texas products, the Rockwall Heath kid
has been one of the best quarterbacks in the Big Twelve.
I mean, he has been terrific. You know, he's completing
(08:43):
almost seventy percent of his passes, he's taking care of
the football. He has been terrific. And I think you
add in what is a revitalized receiver corps with Eric
McCallister and Jordan Dwyer and Joseph May and Jack and
this is a dangerous offense. And I think that you know,
last week against SMU, uh they fell down. SMU fell
(09:06):
down early, and they fought back, but every time they
fought back, TCU had a CounterPunch, and that I think
has been kind of the issue for them the past
couple of years is that they take it. They take
a punch and they'd have to kind of load up
to get ready to punch back. There was an immediate
and immediate response and an immediate resiliency. I think from
(09:27):
the tasties you team that I think really bodes well
for them heading in to the heart of conference play.
And then for Baylor. You know that that's a disappointing loss.
I think against Arizona State, this is a team that,
you know, they're really hard to get a read on
because they've got the two losses that I don't think
you can necessarily, you know, say too much more about,
(09:50):
you know, the loss of Auburn. I think it's aged ok.
You know, they lose on the last second field goal
to Arizona State. I think everything is still out in
front of them. But the issue is going to be
the defense is going to be a problem all year long.
This has been that's been a real issue for them
early and it's going to continue to be an issue.
This is a team that's giving up nearly five and
(10:11):
a half yards per play. They are giving up four
yards to carry. This team is defensively going to have
some issues. They're gonna have to outscore their problems. Now.
I do think that they've got the guy and sorry
Robertson certainly to do that, and some of the playmakers
they've got, like Josh Cameron on the outside, you know,
the Bryce and Washington has been a real revelation for
(10:32):
running back spot for them, the Franklin kid. But I
see that defense is ultimately what's going to hold them
back and keep them from achieving the kind of stuff
that we thought might be available to them in the outset,
specifically contending for a baseball championship. This still could be
a team that finished eighty four or something like that.
But I think that unless that defense figures something out
(10:53):
that we just haven't seen through the first quarter of
the first third of the season, it does feel like
that's going to hold them backs moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A bigger surprise to you North Texas who you now
have as your highest ranked G six school at four
and oh or Rice at three and one.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Hey how about your Rice house? Yea got Abel has
said has installed that kind of if you haven't seen
Rice play football, they're a fun looking offense right now.
They are. They're running the ball. They have the fifteenth
best rushing offense in all of college football, you know,
averaging nearly two or fifty yards per game on the ground.
(11:34):
They're a lot of fun. And now I will say
that I think you take a look at who they've
beaten so far, you know, with preview A and M
Charlotte Louisiana. Rice is not in the position to start
apologizing for wins. But I will say that it does
feel like the heart of the schedule is really going
to start coming up, most notably starting this week when
(11:54):
they traveled to take on a Navy team that you know,
you want to talk about running the name. All that
game might be out, might be over forty five minutes,
but I would say, for it's got to be North Texas.
I mean, now, last week they tried very hard to
spit the bit against.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Army Boyd boy did that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They they were That was a game I turned off
I was like, Oh, they're in control. Nothing to see here.
And then suddenly I got a text message actually from
our executive producer and uh and and North Texas alum
Ashley Pickle, who said, Hey, you might want to turn
this game back on. It's it's getting too close for comfort.
But they ended up pulling out the win. And the
bottom line is that this offense is going to be
(12:33):
incredibly difficult to stop because Drew Mastmaker is playing at
an extremely high level. McKenzie the guild looks like he
is the real deal at the running back spot. And
then they've got a trio of wide receivers in Wyatt Young,
Cameron Dorner and Miles Coleman, a name that I know
folks down there in that part of the world remember fondly.
They can play and playstimvil. The other thing that is
impressive to me about their defense, and I know they
(12:56):
gave up a bunch of yards late in that game's army,
but they take the ball away. They are they are,
they are bouncing on mistakes and they take them all away.
As long as they do that, they are going to
be a true contender, not just in the American but
if you're a. If you're contender in the American you're
continued to grab that gee five spot in the in
the college football playoffs and that point, you know, we're
(13:16):
talking to heavy stuff. A lot of room between now
and then, but for now, it's it couldn't they're there
for North Texas. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The funny thing is everybody remembers Miles Coleman playing, uh,
playing there for Vandergriff. What they may forget is that
Drew Mestamaker was the starting strong safety for Vandergrift. He
was the backup quarterback. This is the starting safety, yeah,
for Drew Sanders, who had pretty good quarterback running the
show at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And now they've got a nice connection going to Denton.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Talking and that will
help us transitional high school football. Talking to Greg Tepper here,
editor in chief Take Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Bigger Upsets
walks at you for Dunkinville, rock all over North Crowley.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's probably it's probably walked Atchie over in Duncanville for
a couple of reasons. First of all, it's district game.
It's a district ball game, and that obviously resonates in
a huge way. Furthermore, this is a North Crowley team,
I think just because we'd seen more of them. Dungeville
only played one game, so it's still kind of a mystery.
But North Crowley had looked shaky. They kind of I
(14:23):
said this in other places, Nor Crowley kind of played
with fire and escaped. They played with fire and they
finally got burned this week, and against a good rock
ball team that I think went out there and played
pretty fearlessly. But for Walks at Hatchie, this is a
pretty seismic win for Shane Pollinson's ball club and to
go out there and to now take an opportunity to
(14:45):
really take command of Districts eleven six A if they
can beat the Soto this week, which they have here
to have gotten the Wheels a little bit more back
on than their first two weeks, you know. But I
think you've got CCU commit at quarterback and Jerry Meyer
you have, and more importantly, you have got any defense,
a thumping, thunderous defense led by Jake Wan Snell who
(15:06):
laid the end of the year on a fourth down
to really seal that victory for Watsahatchie. I think that
this is a walkstashy team at times to start really
paying attention to I think they announced themselves to the
state last week when their win over duncan Billy it
was it was really impressive.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Let me get your thoughts on this is.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I asked you for a measuring stick about Southlake, Carol
and clearly you know a little over a week ago,
and clearly what about Allen who you've moved up so high.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Now in the ranking.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So this is this has been a point of contention
around the day of Campbells Texas Football Offices because right now,
and this is strange to say, but since Division one
feels about as wide open as it's ever felt in
quite some time, because it's normally we're on some sort
of march towards Duncanville North Shore right now. Last week
(16:02):
last year obviously there was some pretty shifting sands there
where you were able to get North Crowley and West Lake. Well,
right now we project West Lay to go Division two.
Obviously this year twenty six six A is going to
play out and we'll figure out where that goes. So
then it really opens up in the six d A.
Division one at North Crowley stated Duncanville has lost, North
(16:23):
Bill Glean Park north Shore has lost. And I'm here
to tell you that Alan might be the favorite in
sixth Day Division One. At least through the first four weeks.
They have been dominant. They have been exceptional defensively, and
they are humming right now. The way that they're playing,
They're going to be awfully hard to beat because I
(16:45):
think that this is just a year in six A
Division one that opened up for them. You know a
lot of the contenders. And it's a strange thing to
say because in the past few years we kind of
considered six d A Division one to be the I don't
want to say superior bracket, but a lot of the
very best teams, the highest ranked teams, have ended up
going to the sixth A Division one bracket. This is
(17:06):
a situation this year in which we may end up
having a lot more teams go into sixth eight Division two.
And if that's the case, then things open up for
a team like Alan, where I think that that the
sky is the limit for them. Busy team is playing
exceptional football, and in a in a a universe, in
a in a world where the a lot of the
sixth Day Division one teams have shown some flaws right now.
(17:29):
The best team in sixthy Division one for the first
four weeks I think has been the Alan Eagles, which
I know for for folks who who maybe missed the
Kyler Murray era, this feels awfully familiar. So this is
this is a pair of shotes you slip right back into.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's a good point. Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Let me uh, let me get your thoughts on the
meanest thing we do each week, as we say, have
you uh transferred you? You have your choice of three games,
and you can choose to I will uh uh say
that one of the ones I give to you when
you do it to me on Thursday, you will not
include it because it's the game I'm calling uh for
victory PLASFA. We'll start with six A and I will
(18:10):
ask you, uh if if you had your choice, would
it be Waksatchi de Sota in uh six A?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Would it be in four A Division one, number one
Solina against number six Frisco Panther Creek both are unbeaten
and uh?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And then the third where did I do with my
third one? I had it written down here? Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
What did I do? With my third one. I had
a third one went to the wrong division here, Uh,
the the third choice? Oh yeah, I know what it
was going to be third choice road game for Pleasant Grove,
coming off the loss at home to Kilgore, going to
six ranks Sunnydale.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That that was. That was the third choice I had.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
So that's a whales ball game too, And it's a
pleas and grow of an opportunity to reset against the
sun But sun Vale is a team that's playing exceptionally
well right now and I'm excited to see what they do.
My answer is probably gonna be the game that you're
on the call for there with Slim and Tanta Cree.
That's a wail of a ball game. And what's funny
is that if four A, you know, obviously, you know
(19:19):
every comic book is somebody's first. Four A is the
third largest classification in Texas high school football. And yet
from a prospect perspective, I mean, if you're a recruit, Nick,
it doesn't get a whole lot better than this. You
have Boventley, the Oklahoma commit. You have got the logan
goodiere as Lupia Jeanie, They've got the line is loaded,
a big offensive line going up against guys like Jalen
(19:41):
a lot right, this this is a loaded Donovan Webb,
the Texas Tech comment at safety. This is a loaded
Panther Creek team with frontline talent. I am really excited.
And and by the way, it is of course a
district bull game, which is going to make this all
the more important because the the winner of this game
will at the very least be in the driver's seat
(20:02):
to win the district of the district title, get that
number one seed in the playoffs. The loser still has
to face, by the way, a very difficult district. It's
not like it gets a whole lot easier from here
in that very difficult and deep district. But I think
that that ball game between Flana and Panther Creek has
an opportunity to really steal the show. I will be
(20:24):
listening to your adult tones on Friday night because that
is a that's a heck of a ball game. And
if you're a high school football fan's a great game.
And if you are a recruiting and you're just saying, oh,
I want to watch some of the best players in
the state who are going to be playing at the
next level. Lock in for this one because this is
going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Free on the Victory Sports app, followed by Temper and
Pickle there on the Victory Sports App at ten thirty
and online at Texas Football dot com for the complete
recap of all of Hey, you know what scares me?
Here's here's enough to shake you to your foundation. Bill Elliott,
the head coach at Salona, great guy, told me this
(21:01):
morning that Solina is growing by one hundred and eighty
people a week and that uh and that in the
next realignment there'll be a.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Five A, which I know your guys have written about.
He said.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
By the end of the decade, we're going to be
a six A and maybe a six A Division one
program s line.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now is it's insane that the growth out there. When
we wrote the story, they're the gatefold feature in data
Campbell Texas Football the summer edition and they are the
fastest growing city in America, and it is it is
shocking if you have not been in Salina, even in
like the last like eighteen months, it is almost unrecognizable
out there. The growth out there is incredible. And you know,
(21:42):
people people who remember Solana as being this like small
school powerhouse. Uh huh, not anymore, guys. This is this
is the last year of quote unquote small school Salina
because it is only up from here.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Uh. He said, this is how he knows they're exploding.
They're getting an AGB now, so that's that's.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
How I know. Okay, well, that's then at that point,
at that point, might as well get an airport.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Right, catch tepper and pickle there on front. That and
you should subscribe at Texas Football dot Com. Get you
content access, access to watch Texan live telecasts and everything
else as well. Hey, I appreciate it, and we'll look
forward to the next time.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Aro out.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
My friends.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, thanks, all right, that's Greg Chapper, editor in
chief Dave Candils Texas Football Max. There are little bit
of airports out there in Collin County and Denton County
out in the area. They might need a bigger one
now with all the explosive growth of Frisco. And I
did say when I was talking with the Frisco head coach,
Clint Serrata, said, uh, factor fiction. If you stand on
(22:49):
any roof in the city limits of Frisco and go
turn around three hundred and sixty degrees you'll see four
or five high schools. He said, that's an absolute fact.
They twelve high schools, twelve five A high schools in Frisco.
He said, we're just all around one another. All right,
We'll continue when we get right here on the Sports
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