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Recapping Hard Knocks Episode 4 Game 1 goes to Mets in Subway Series Thibs signs extension with Knicks

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And enter in now at Fox Sportsnine eighty dot com, WOFX Troy,
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Live in the GG Toys Is Studio. That's Toys with a Z. It
is Levaka Goz. Happy hump Day, everybody. Uh, we have got
quite the show for you today.Uh. And by that I mean probably
just the same nonsense we do everyday, but it's it feels new,
feels better. We've got a schedulingnote here today Levac Okay Flock University.
The season finale is gonna air.That's very good. Their hosts are Wow.

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Have you seen the one guy,little heavier, very attractive. I
would bring him home to Mom.I would. There's like a half Trump
in there. He's a very goodlooking guy. He's one of the best
looking guys. I don't know.So Coach where joined us throughout the season,
usually at five twenty a little programor like four thirty ish. And
I appreciate Coach. We're doing thisbecause I feel like we're gonna talk a

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while today. So four thirty ISHplay of the Day is gonna get moved.
You gotta be careful because what doyou mean? Ish? Sometimes you
get really radio and I want tosmack you around and be what do you
mean, because you're a head upwhat it means you're being radio guy.
You're like, do you mean wealready know what we're talking to him about?
So you're acting like you don't knowwhat we're talking to him about.
So it's like, yes, weknow it's gonna take longer because we know

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what we're talking to him about.Like you're doing the radio thing of Alie,
they could happen. We already knowwhat's gonna happen. No, no,
no, I was doing it.It's gonna be a great conversation with
our good friend Damenware. Rarely doI do the appointment listening thing because I
don't think that exists in twenty twentyfour. But there are Firebird fans Dave,
Ryan, Steve who get mad whencoach wears interview moves, so that

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was very much for them. It'sfunny and I will I'm gonna I'm gonna
yell at myself real too quick too. But I did all that. There's
a lot of Like there's a lotof that radio stuff that I hate,
But then there's the radio stuff thatyou try to like not do anymore,
And I get really mad, likelike when you ignore radio for the podcast,
I jump down your throat. Butthen when you go super radio like,
I don't think that happened. Idon't know why we don't. We

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got them aly, It's gonna becrazy though. It could be a long
conversation because we talked to him alreadyearlier today there's at least seven things you
want to cover. Could go crazy. But like, but then again,
if you go, if you listeningon the podcast, I'm like, O,
it's the radio, screw the podcast, Like I I mean, you
know what, I wouldn't want towork with me, you know what,

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cause I wouldn't do it. IfI were you, I'd storm out there.
Please don't cause don't have buttons.No, no, no. This
is why this show works. Andwe hope you stay with us for all
three hours today. Anything could happenbecause Lavak got Mano paused, he's he's
fighting with himself. So hot inhere, hot, let me do a
four cold now A force is Segwejust like hard Knocks this season. I

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don't know what to expect on thisshow. I if you're like me,
you watched last night's Hard Knocks thismorning because you fell asleep, you did
the same thing. Both of usfell Yeah, okay, yeah we're old.
Well you have an excuse, youhave a you have a toddler.
I just was sitting watching and allof a sudden, I like woke up
and it was over, and Iwas watching House of the Dragon. I'm

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like, hell's going on? Wow? When did they When did they draft
a dragon? That's awesome. They'regonna win everything. Our team should do
that. Why wouldn't you? Imean, come on, they breathe fire
the part of it that and likespoiler alert, if you're waiting to watch

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it, we're gonna talk about itin detail. I was like, oh,
I can't wait to see what theactual draft. They don't do the
draft. It's a complete hype videoleading up to the draft. And at
first I was ticked because I'm like, I waited thirty six minutes of my
life, well, actually the hoursI fell asleep. First thirty six minutes
episode not a long episode. Iwanted the draft, but then I thought

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about I was like, that wasa really good I thought I learned quite
a few things. I saw someweird stuff, and now I'm hyped for
the next episode, which is cleargonna be all draft. So I I
went from to like, you knowwhat, I say what you did there?
And I like it. It wasa good episode. Joe Shane.

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The one problem I did have withit. Joe Shane is sitting there talking
to Chris Merra, the head ofplayer Personnel or whatever the hell it is,
one of the Merra kids. Itwas all far older than us,
and he tells us about the conversationyou have with Daniel Jones, that hey,
look there is a chance we draftsomebody there. We're gonna we have

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to address the quarterback position because you'rehurt all the time, whether it be
your neck or your knee or yourshoulder or whatever, you're hurt a lot,
so we need to do it.And he's like so. But when
he's saying it, I keep waiting, Like they start the picture is of
the building, the facility, andthen I keep waiting for the show of
the room and have Daniel Jones sittingon the other end of the desk.

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But then you hear Joe Shane saysomething the effect of So that's why I
told him I didn't want him towalk into the break room and see like
Drake may or jayde and Dale sittingthere and it's Chris Mary's talking to I
wish we could have seen the actualconversation because, like, I feel like
Joe Shane has been pretty transparent withthe merits for the most part, but
he also definitely paints himself very verynicely in a lot of the pictures he

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does in the conversations later, Solike, how did that conversation really go?
Like was Dale Jo's? Because DaleJoe seems to roll with the punches.
He seems like a very non reactivedude. Like when Joe Shane goes,
hey, listen, we love you, we believe in you, but
you are hurt all the time,so we might bring in a quarterback?

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Is what is Dale Jones says?Cool? What does he do? I'm
sure it's personality to personality for howany athlete response to we might take your
replacement and have someone take your job, Because really, in the American workforce,
I feel like the idea of someonetaking your job and you being fully
aware of that doesn't happen at ahigh percentage of jobs, like, or

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if it does, has that personin that profession had that happen to them
since they were a teenager, Andso I was gonna be like, what
does that mean? Guys? Rememberwhen Daniel Jones was being recruited by Duke,
there was someone ahead of him,right, so he knew going to
and then after he got the Duke, they were gonna recruit quarterbacks. So

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like, whether it's basketball, football, baseball, any sport, the recruiting
process should at least with maturity.Give these guys and women, Hey,
this is a part of the gigyou signed up for. Just because you're
All World, All League, AllConference, All American doesn't mean we're never
going to recruit a quarterback, runningback, wide receiver. As soon as

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eighteen years old, most of theseathletes who hit the pro level realize,
hey, each year someone is gonnabe recruited to that if I don't play
well enough, they will take myjob. So I would think athletes are
more accustomed to understanding the idea ofthis is a business and every time someone
can take your job if you're notgood enough. I would think a high

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percentage of athletes would be aware andunderstand that. However, that doesn't turn
off the competitive juices. Just becausesomeone's coming through your gig doesn't mean they
go in a corner and cry.They know that. I would have loved
to hear that conversation too. Maybeit was too cliche. Danie Jones goes,
I understand, I get it.It's a part of the business,
and that was It could could haveeasily been that, But that was an
interesting conversation where it's like, thisis being talked about. We're not gonna

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lie, We're gonna be this iswhy the season's been phenomenal. I text
you like nine o'clock this morning,said, this season is phenomenal. That
episode professional, done with class,done with the respect. No one ever
took pot shots at Daniel Jones.There was never a he sucks, he
stinks, he's not good, he'sa bump. No one took an unfair
shot at Daniel Jones here any playerson the team. Ever. There have

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been scenes at Hard Knocks where guysaid, how is he on the roster?
This guy's not as good as heused to be. This is not
the player we signed up. We'veseen that in the history of that show
that never happened. In this episodeabout Daniel Jones, there's a scene where
Saquon Barkley is scen at Penn Stateand the offensive line coach talks to him.
I don't think the scouts in Saquonmay have actually ever known each other,
and I really believe that because there'sprobably a different scouting team than Saquon

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dealt with when he was younger.So it was a lot of respect,
a lot of professionalism. There isone scene that I do want to get
to that I think had a hugeimpact on what happened for the Johnts of
the Drift. But I thought itwas a very well done episode, and
for sports fans like us, therewere obviously conversations about Daniels in May.
Maybe not so much McCarthy, butWashington at two and New England at three,

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they would have done it real quick. Though. Remember Dale Jones Eli
Manning was still there when Dale Jonesgot to the Giant, so he's very
different. He's replacing a franchise guywho's been there for you know, fifteen
twenty years, what the hell itis. But at the same time,
every quarterback gets replaced. Yet Ididn't realize how much they like Jayden Daniels.

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I didn't realize that at all,and they did. They they tried
to get Drake may because of theNew England situation, but New England wanted
everything and rightfully, so I guessI maybe I want you tell me,
guys, when you see the Drakemay stuff, doesn't he just seem goofy?

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Like he doesn't? They show himlike they show it was cool.
They brought thirty They showed all theplaces that the giant scouts went and watched
all the pro days and did allthe scouting all that stuff, and then
they invited thirty potential draft picks tothe facility where they worked them out,
and they showed the Drake May wherehe's like, oh, show the hard

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guys. Oh. And every timehe drops back to the ball he's like
hey, hey, like he's hejust seems goofy to me. And I
have yet to see video of DrakeMaye. It doesn't end with him giggling.
To me, Drake May feels likehe's good. I thought the clips
are good of Drake May, buthe is the youngest of four brothers.
He just seems like someone who leansmore towards twenty and thirty. He probably

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he's been picked on and busted on, and they showed the video him get
jeffed the Patriots. It feels like, Hey, I've had success doing it
this way, and this is theway I've acted by entire life. I'm
not I'm still trying to be professional. This is just my personality. Like
Roma Dunes seems like a grown man. Marvin Harrison says about ten words which
just eat more than his dad usedto say. It just seems like in
those small snippets, is this istheir personality. Maybe Goofy maybe just younger,

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maybe less mature, but Lak Neighborsseems like someone again small sample size
of what we see on the episodeof Just Eat, Sleeps, and Breathes
football and watch the ball every singleplay. We didn't get to see the
who clip. I get what you'resaying, though, Like his demeanor doesn't
seem like Peyton Man seems more likea younger Eli Manning a little like uh
Goo yeah, Goofy. Yes,I watched last night and I walked away

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going I'm glad they got Mink Neighbors. I did not watch last night and
go I can't believe they lost outin drink pay Just well, that's not
where I'm at. There was thatscene though, and you hit on this
about may Elliott Wolfe I believe isthe name of the GM for the Patriots,
where he flat out set on thephone he's like, look, we
need a quarterback. You guys needa quarterback. If this is a different
time with a different roster, wetake that deal. Yep. But out

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seven he wanted. He wanted aone, one number six pick this year,
a one the year after, andlike a two three, maybe a
six, maybe a five in twentyfive. And they're like, how about
like one this year, one nextyear, and like maybe another pick.
Nah, we're good, buddy,peace, Okay. Cool. The most
pivotal scene for me and giant fan. I hope you remember this scene for

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years to come. There's a scenewhere John Marra is just walking around the
office and I want to say,his name is Brandon Brown. I just
think, forget if it's Brendan orBrandon one of the scouts. We're gonna
go with Brandon here, Brandon Brown. And he's got the picture of Frank
Gifford in his office and WYI Tittleand all these giant legends, and Mara
tells the story about how he probablywas on the sideline when that picture was

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taken. And they start talking aboutthis year's draft, and he says,
yeah, just it gives me feelsof what happened twenty years ago, and
they cut to right Ernie DaCosta makingthe deal for Philip Rivers and making the
deal with Eli Manning and how muchthey gave up, and they talked about
the draft Capitol where they gave upa lot to get Eli, and then

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I believe da Costa says the lineof it's worth to give up a lot
if you get something out of it, and they show up right, But
it felt like Mara never wanted todo it again, whether it's stress,
whether it's risk, whether it's hismemories of the did you get that vibe?
You know what I'm talking about,that scene where it's like he like,
will never forget oh for I feellike it's I think that's part of

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it. But I also I thinkit's one of those things like, and
I do this, and you'll probablyend up doing this as your kids get
a little older, where it's Iwant you to make your own decision and
I think. I think Mara looksat the team like they're all his kids.
I want you to make your owndecision, but I want you to
be aware of the consequences to comewith this decision. That's the way I
feel, because he walks around andhe's like, you know, listen,

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I don't know if I'll be ableto sleep if Saquon's an eagle. I
you know, I remember how muchthis this has given me twenty years ago.
Vibes. This is like I wantif you really think the right thing
to do is give up six picksto get Drake, may that you're right.
You do it. Just realize everybig decision has big consequences. There

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is something almost about a stubbornness likeyou and I have gone through this in
life, and I'm sure people whowatched that cut last night have gone through
this in life. If something happenedin my life the end result was this,
and I ether I either want todo that again because the result was
positive, ever want to experience itagain because it was negative, or understand
the impact of the decision that wasmade. Like that's everything from relationships to

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picking a job to picking a school, all of that matters I know is
a huge my life experience watching Mayorhave that conversation. That's not the first
time he's done that with somebody likehe so Giant fans. What's happened back
with Philip Rivers and Eli Manning hasnever left his mind. Think how unique

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that is in sports though, Likeit's not often you get an executive,
an owner, a GM that's havingsomething that happened twenty years ago that's still
affecting what's happening today when that guy'snot there any Well, I think I
think you're right, but I thinkyou're underestimating it because now go back to
that first story you told this partof this targeting to and everybody. I
was probably right there. This ishey, Joe, Shane, Brian Dable,

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this is your job. This ismy life. Your your job is
to make sure I enjoy my life, you know what I mean? Like
like people come and go, evenTish like all these other guys, they
come and go. I I cantell you where I was as part of
my life based on what was happeningwith the Giants at that point in time.

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So twenty years ago, we gaveup the store to get Eli Manning,
and it worked out and it wasyeah, Brandon Brown, you're you're
right. Brandon Brown goes, youknow, why did you choose Eli over?
I remember who? There was asmaller school guy involved like him.
Remember well why what was a bigsec and he wasn't. They didn't lose

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because Eli he didn't have a lotaround him and stuff like like he remembers
all of it because this is hislife. So Joe, Shane, your
your life is football, okay,great, My life is the Giants.
So you you do what you gottaAnd I think, like I man,
I like Shane every every a littlemore every time because even as he's putting

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these ideas together and how he's goingto this and you know, the episode
ends with him. Basically the mantrais if it's if neighbors or Harrison is
there at six, we turn inthe card and we enjoy our lives.
Like it's just it's those two arethere. The car goes in and we're
good, We're good to go.Boom boom boom boom boom boom. That's
it. He has that moment whereashe's his family's bring your family to work

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that he says, and he goes, it's almost over. It's almost over,
but he has the kids. I'lltell them who who? Who?
Who would you pick? So he'sincorporating his family into this huge moment of
his life, which I thought wasreally cool. But it's still like all
right, So so I think itwas. It wasn't even like two o'clock
in the afternoon. Right now,he's like, all right, it was
good. And the wife he's like, round them up. I got work

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to get out, get these damnkids out of here. I had my
I had my dad moment. They'regonna remember forever. But now I gotta
go build a football team. Thereare moments before this episode finished, and
we've talked about it on the airand Giants fans WI let it hurt their
take, whether you've done it onthe air, on social media, about
how you felt about certain moments,whether the faith has been increased, decrease,
fear, all these things have beendescribed about how the Giants have the

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clips we've seen. If I'm aGiant fan, after episode four, I'm
more at ease about the franchise,Like this is the one that put me
at ease because here's what could havehappened. Imagine if it was too twisted
towards Daniel Jones. Like imagine ifwe just said, like, no,
we're not even interested in any oflike, we would have lost perception of

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Okay, these guys aren't on planetEarth. The fact that we actually heard
conversations of yes, we are consideringit a quarterback. Yes, we know
that we can trade up, weknow he needs some everything that they said,
we as fans, we as mediamembers, we have people who've watched
the team understood what they were saying. It could have been a lot worse
last night, Like it could havebeen a love fest for Daniel Jones,

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a love fest that we never MalikNeighbors a really nice player. Spoiler alert,
he's getting picked in the next episode. Right, it could have been
a lot worse. Giant fans,it looked like we got Okay, here's
what they were thinking the whole time, and it makes a lot more sense
now. Neighbors just is he's he'sdable, spirit animal, like he's what

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he's the one that they like.If you haven't seen it in you're a
Giants fan, just know that yougot your guy, Like you got the
guy that they wanted to if youif everything was equal and they just walked
into that room and said, okay, you can have one guy based on
his personality. He's want to justskill, is skilled, regardless of position.
That's the guy they were gonna takethe now, if they had the

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number one overall, pick Caleb Williams, Jane Daniels, Drake may whatever.
But every you know, even thethe Nick Saban conversation, there's a point
where they're getting ready to go tothe war room and Dable looks over.
Everybody goes, yeah. I talkedto Nick on the way in and he
asked, I asked him, who'sone. He's like, there's there's two

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guys that are troubled. But helike called neighbors. A mofo put that.
Kids don't say that, and it'sjust like you can just see,
Like even the wide receivers coach afterhe worked out, after he quizzed all
three of the top wide receivers andeverybody's gone, they go, who do
you want? He's neighbors. Hedidn't even It wasn't like a well,
you know, I like this aboutHarrison, like this about a doing like

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neighbors. It was right there.I'm excited about the Giants this season.
I don't know. The one downsideof how good this is. I don't
know if they can live up toexpectations because I'm I'm fully invested in in
hoping that Danie Jones will be goodthis year and they'll be a good team.
Do you want to talk to ourguy real quick? Yeah? You

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know, we rarely ever take callsto lead off a show, but we
haven't heard from him a while.I gotta make sure he's doing Okay,
we go to the elevation ten thousand, full lines. Elevate your brand today
with Elevation ten thousand. Corey inGreenwich, Hello Corey, Hi guy,
Hello buddy, what's up? OhNo, let's just go home. I
just pick up some bacon. Wedon't really care. Tell us what you
think about sports? Come on,you know I have a different for different

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Uh for the Giant You know what? Go back to talking about bacon.
Go ahead, Joe ahead, Corey. One more commenter. We're hanging out.
This better be good? Uh?Could the Giants if Daniel Jones does
not work out? The second biggeststory of this off season besides the Giants
is could they No, they can'tget Dak Prescott. No, Cowboys are

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never going to give Dak Prescott toCorey alright, hanging out. I knew
where he was going. You gottathink about it the same reason you couldn't
go after the number two pick.The Commanders are never going to help the
Giants. The Cowboys are never goingto help the The price to get Dak
Prescott from Dallas to New York wouldbe insane, insane as a matter of

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fact, like they would take theend in the y they would be the
Giants. That's it, like thatwho wouldn't be able to do anything.
No, it's not, that's nota Teams that are realistic possibilities for Dak
Prescott are probably my Raiders, Ithink. I don't know, there's it's
not. It's not a lot ofthem, I don't. I think maybe
your Buccaneers. The Dak Prescott conversation, Uh this Corey probably wouldn't like to

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answer, but it's the real answer. Dallas has a chance to win the
Super Bowl this season. So ifDallas goes all the way to the Super
Bowl this season to show up rightlike they're gonna have a chance with win
the Superowl, they're probably gona bringhim back. Obviously, if they have
that great of a season, Dak'sgoing back to Dallas. If Dak stinks
and Dallas stinks, they're probably gonnafinally look towards the draft. Dak wasn't
a first round draft pick. Dakwas what fourth fifth rounder who was supposed

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to be Tony Romo's backup. Soit depends on the finish for Dallas.
It really does, because where elsewould he go. No, New York
doesn't seem like the landing spot forDak. I think it would be.
I think you're looking realistically, likeI said, if the Raiders are really
well but there's nothing coming out ofthe quarterback scision, they could they might
cough up what they want. Ithink it's about maybe Tennessee. I don't

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know, but no, it's it'sa very short list of teams that that
actually would have a legitimate chance orwant to bring them in. Also,
the temptation of probably the hand wastipped on hard knocks, like, hey,
we don't want to spend a loton a quarterback. They could have
like they could have went and gota quarterback, they could have win,
got Kirk Cousins. The Giants showednothing in the thought of building this team
roster that they want to go toa veteran quarterback, and especially if it

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means making the Cowboys better in thefuture. In the process, uh,
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call. I'm just appointed to myself. You owned it, Corey. You

(29:11):
owned it. He owned it.He did own it, all right,
he owned it. Twitter is notvery happy with you right now, Corey.
Ryan wrote in whenever Corey from Greenwichcalls in, Hi guys with a
picture of Chris Jericho Leon in thefive one that he wants to let us
know. He also gets on acertain morning show that airs on a different
station. It's not a bad show. The show is good station. Our

(29:33):
guy, Jake Asmin was on thatshow. By the way, I heard
this week. That's our guy.We're Jake Ass. I want the assth
Manic hat. Have you seen thisJake Ass? But do you remember him?
I do from Ehaca. He's gota hat. I don't know you
were asked, is it the assmaniac Is that what he's calling his fans
now, the ass maniacs where they'rejust like bucket hat. He's the jet's

(29:53):
logo. He is. He shouldnot know. He should stop that ass
maniacs. You could get I tweetedit, by the way, I wanted
to get his hat. He says, he should stop that, and you
should stop that. You both.I was being a supportive of a broadcaster
and I won't get you stop that. You know how he got on that
show in the first place? Wait? Which which show? He was on?
That one? He was this one. He's a hustler man he got

(30:15):
I know how he got. Iknow how he got on the f A
n as a guest. Oh,I don't know that story. His dad
like sells top end umbrellas, sohe said this show a bunch of umbrellas
and they had him on. Isthere really? Yeah? That guy can
hustle. He is him and Bobbytross it. Shout out to Bobby.
I'm sure he'll be back on.I think Bobby can actually do hits on

(30:37):
this. I think Jake can.Now those guys are those guys are hustlers
man. Good for that I mean, I like them all, don't get
me wrong, but as maniac,you could be one to see. I
know I couldn't, I really couldn't. He's kind of like reserved. He's
kind of like a shooter, right, I don't know if he's a straight
shooter or not. Uh, I'llget you a bucket hat. Not if

(31:00):
it says that on it, ifit says ass maniac on it, no
thanks, I'll pass. I'll bea pass madiac because that he was at
the Yankees and Mets yesterday. JakeAsman. Okay, you know who wasn't
there? You and I the Yankeesoffense? All right? So you and

(31:21):
I are in a home run pool? Were we both took Pete Alonzo for
this week? We're the only onesin this like thirty person pool. Oh
not thirty, we're nearly one hundred? Is there? One hundred? And
the yeah, I don't know thatmany. Clearly we should have taken Jeff
McNeil. Can we check and makesure that they were student in switch uniforms

(31:42):
because Alonzo's out flashing the leather atfirst looking like a defensive madman, and
then and now what is it?McNeil's got I think five home runs since
the break and he had four beforethe break. Like Jeff McNeil is going
off all of a sudden and PeterAlonzo has got warning truck power all of
a sudden, Like, what theCan we put a little more anderw Stein
in his breakfast? Please? Canwe do a little? I need I

(32:05):
need a lot? How long dowe have for Alizes with a home run
Sunday? We have till Sunday.Man, You've ember like hack a shack
Jordan rules all those things where it'slike, listen, I'm gonna let you
beat me, but I'm not gonnaanybody else like on your team beat me.
It's the exact opposite right now forthe Yankees. If you don't pitch
to Aaron Judge, you won't win. You gonna win. That's all I

(32:29):
was do it. They walked himfour times and one was it Monday or
Tuesday? Which which one of thesedays? Did I do the top heavy
take? Right? Hmm? Youknow, it's kind of dawned on me
that this Yankee team might be alittle top heavy. And then yesterday's the
line up they trotted out there.We like Malakai Jones. We're fans of
Malachai his brother. Fantastic, wonderfulstory, shocking to the country that he's

(32:52):
the leadoff hitter now for the NewYork Yankees. JD. Davis, I'm
pretty sure I did a podcast withhim like five years ago out in Ohio.
Don't think it's the same person.He was betting clean up yesterday for
the Yankees. As bad as thelineup was with Ben Rice and Austin Wells
in those spots, it got worselast night in the subway. Serious at
least those are like there's like ayouth movement to it. The Yankees lineup

(33:14):
is out for today, they've allright, it's a little better. It's
not great, it's a little better. So Glavor Torres is leading off,
Juan Soto's batting, second Judge,third, Austin Wells. So here's the
thing. Why in the world amI going to pitch the Aaron Judge if
I got Austin Wells behind him,Like, Wells has a potential, there's

(33:36):
a future there, maybe whatever,But right now you ain't done nothing.
Why the hell would I? Whywould I pitch the ninety nine when you're
sitting behind him with your goofy mustache, that's the guy in the report.
If Austin Wells is gonna beat us, we'll take the l We're willing to
take that risk out here, vulpayfor Dugo. Davis's d hing le.
Maay, Hugh's playing first tonight.Orlando Cabrera's playing third and batting ninth.

(34:00):
That's your Yankees. Metts haven't haddon't have their line up out yet.
Let me flip back to Verdugo.And this is gonna sound like don't This
is gonna sound like way too bigof a compliment for him. He reminds
me of Aaron Judge for this reason. Remember when Aaron Judge was first starting
off like young Aaron Judge, justcoming up from uh scrant At that point,

(34:21):
Scranton had a championship team in theminers. Judge was a big part
of it. And early Judge wasstartling to people because you had this dude
who was just a monster at theplate. And I used to tell you,
lovact, every time Aaron Judge comesto the plate, he makes me
laugh because he looks like a twelveyear old who's already hit puberty against little
kids and he's just bigger, stronger, And every time he gets up there.
It's comical to see Aaron Judge hitAlex Verdugo. And I'm sure Yankee

(34:45):
fans don't need a cheer up afterthat. But Verdugo is that comical to
me, Like last time he hada big hit in the game. Verdugo's
out there. He shouldn't be.He's one of the ones who looks awkward
with the clean shaped face like heextremely younger, with the facial hair no
longer there, but he's got thedouble sleeves. His stance still is like

(35:07):
he's barely even paying attention, LikeAlex, the ball's coming, huh.
What smashes left handed in the outfield? Probably's out there talking to the fans.
Verdugo's energy. What Verdugo does,you would think at this point in
July. And I know he's beenon the team all season, but it
doesn't seem like he gets down.Like when the when this team was played
awful, Verdugo was gonna be theone to rally them back. I find

(35:29):
him entertaining interesting thought he played welllast night. Hopefully he will be the
guy past Soto, past Judge Stantonwhen he gets healthy. Of okay,
who else can actually be good.I find myself having more faith at Verdugo.
I find myself saying, man,we really need John Carlo Stanton back,

(35:51):
like that's that's where we're at.Okay, Jason de Mingez. Somebody
needs to get in here and protectJudge because right now, Soto he's getting
stuff to hit because he's got Judgebehind him. Judge, they are they
are unintentionally intentionally walking Judge like andit's working. Like you can't I can't
even mad about it. I don'tlike it because you know, it's one

(36:14):
of my favorite player, my favoriteteam. He's maybe the best hitter of
our generation at this point. Withthe way he's swinging the bat, Why
pitch to him? There's no reasonfor it, you know, I do.
I gotta know the story. What'sgoing on in the parking lot.
Our news guy got picked up bya blonde lady in like a nice car
earlier when I got here today,and then just got dropped back off by

(36:37):
her to his car, like doyou think there's a little skyrockets in flight?
Afternoon didn't like going on. Ithought our news team wasn't here today,
and one person took the day off. One person left early I've got
breaking news for you news. Ournews guy's a dog news team checked out
here. Tommy Corporate the heads up. I'm not That's not what I'm worried

(36:59):
about. I'm not worried about anything. I'm just saying if that when I
when I was a younger man,those kinds of things would happen, and
I will tell you there was funbeing had somewhere in the area, maybe
a hotel room or something. Ithink breaking news our news guys are getting
more play than we are. Thatis not cool. We listened to that

(37:22):
report later. Uh, this justin. Yeah, So Yankee and Mets.
Mets are three and three and ohright now in the Subway Series,
and they're gonna go back to sixgames next year. Right, three and
three, I think I believe.So. If the Yankees don't win tonight,
it's a season sweet for the Mets. I don't want to hear that.
I know my guy Big Lou fromCaginos, he's down there, a

(37:42):
lot of Mets fans in the area. I know you. You listen,
you're all happy, you're feeling youroats. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna
be upset if we get swept I'mgonna be upset. So hopefully, hopefully
something happens tonight they get their stufftogether and and they get it done.
We get the we geta we geta rare Yankee victory tonight would be nice.
That would make my night. Letme add one quick thing, just

(38:05):
because I know we did a lotof Yankee coverage on that story. What
about for the Mets the issue withthe bullpen. I've seen the gifts in
the tweets today about poor Mendoza tryingto manage that bullpen. If there was
any faith for Yankee fans last nightof how that was going to go down
and potentially the Yankees winning that game, it was going to be because Mendoz

(38:25):
is trying to figure out what isthe goodwill hunting where he's got the big
problem on the board and characters.Yeah, I was thinking like the Looney
Tune thing where like he's in theroom full of dynamite and he's blowing out
the the fuses, but somebody lightsanother one. That's usually but last night
they blew out the fuses and itworked. That's an issue, right,
Matts fans. I saw the graphicissue. I saw the graphic last night

(38:49):
on the TBS broadcast of how manyconstant blown staves, and they were going
on in July as well. Theeasy fix, of course, would be,
Hey, let's call somebody up fromSyracuse who's had a lot of success.
But we we've talked about the storylineof whether or not it's for a
or it's really guyas of a they'rewinning games. But if we're talking about
what the Mets want to do comedeadline time, whatever it is, between

(39:12):
starting pitchering Diaz, can you getsomebody to help out men. Hey,
one point during the game, Ijust thought, you know what, maybe
Mendoza actually doesn't know what he's doingwith the bullpen, Like maybe he did
the code the wrong way. Maybehe's like moving pictures the wrong I have
to think it's him and not theactual bullpen because I'm a messages Well,
they wouldn't got what's his name,filmaton the one from from Tampa Bay.

(39:35):
Who's you know so far he's he'sbeen all right. But it's kind of
I look at it as like likein the video games where you get to
pick you know what you're gonna usenext, and it's like do you want
trash? Do you want garbage.Do you want poop or do you want
Dodo? Like he's nobody's nobody's doingout of Vino has been trash, he
pitched well well enough. He's theYankees former club. The Yankees like they're

(39:55):
not there, they're they it's it'sgas on an open flame. But last
night they were good enough. Stopthe Yankees because again, we only have
two people get hit, so allyou just get around those two and you're
good to go. That's it's thatsimple and easy, and it breaks my
freaking heart. So Met's maybe that'swhat we see. If the Mets make
big moves to bring in more bullpenat the deadline, then they're making a

(40:17):
move and they make a run forit. If the Yankees just stop sucking,
maybe they're making a move. Maybethey're trying to make a run for
it. Either can happen, youknow what I mean. I do feel
as though I'm owned an apology giftfrom the Yankees, and I'm willing to
accept a watch or a cool chain. I'll take a chain. I think

(40:37):
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nine eight so far this off seasonfor the New York Next they brought in

(47:21):
Mikal Bridges, They extended Jalen Bronsona couple draft picks that people seem pretty
warm too, and now they havereportedly extended coach Tom Timano to a three
more years so three year extension additivescontract. Why mess with it? Brunson

(47:43):
loves him. If if a playerthe caliber of Jalen Brunson is willing to
take less to stay on your team, and then reports are that Mikhail Bridges
is like, yo, I'll dothe same. You don't change anything.
You're doing something right. When superstarscould make another like hundred million or whatever,
go yeah, I'm good, I'llmake less. I want to be

(48:05):
here. This is how I wantto play. I want to do it
this way. This is good news. There always feels like with this Knicks
team, whether it's Jalalen Brunson whenhe signed with the Knicks, n one
who's in Dallas not being considered aquote superstar, whether it's guys like Mitchell
Robinson in the past who we're takenlater. It seems like there's this chip
on the shoulder of Knicks players ofnot always through my life if we've been

(48:30):
considered the best, but we wantto prove something. That's what makes us
Nick team so easy to root for. Is there a little vindication here for
Tom Thibodeau because his style some maybeI don't know if it was me at
one point, but someone argued like, Hey, this whole defense thing,
we don't really do that in theNBA anymore. Hey, this being rough

(48:51):
on your superstars and coaching them uptoo much. It doesn't really work with
these young guys who are really richin contracts. Through the roof Tom Thibodeau's
style of coaching can't work in theNBA anymore. He got run out of
Chicago. Now Derrick Rose got hurtin the whole future of that franchise,
but had been different at Rose nevergot hurt. He got run out of
Minnesota. Jimmy Butler was a problem, and the Timberwold fan base can look

(49:13):
and say we're way better without him. But he goes to New York,
and there have been times when NewYork struggled whether or not he's the right
guy. I think there's some vindicationof my style works. I always was
the right guy. I'm the fitfor this team, and I'm just as
important for anybody else's future here,whether it's Brunson or Deevencenzo or who bridges

(49:34):
than anybody else. So I feellike it's a great move by the Knicks
and it's the right guy for theright time in the spot. Uh yeah,
I do. I think vindication comeswith the championship. To be honest
with you, I think that's wherewe're at right now for the Knicks.
There was one year left on hisdeal. It was originally a five year
deal, so three year extension.Since you since you went with the plus,

(49:58):
let me try to pay if possible, because that's what we're supposed to
do. Original deal. With fiveyears one year left of your contract,
you're considered a lame duck. Playerswon't listen to You had to extend him
if you were going to keep himthree So I mean he has four years
left? Should it have been five? It's three enough? It's three,
okay, Like I like, Idon't know, it's not there, right,

(50:21):
That's just that's just over overthinking.That's agent versus agent, you know,
agent versus GM versus you know,I'm sure the representation of Tom Thibodeau
wanted a longer contract. I'm surethe Knicks organization said, we didn't even
get to where we needed to getthis season. I remember they entered this
is the two seed in the postseason, did not get to the conference finals.
So that's that bargaining spot of Igot to give up a little bit

(50:44):
in the deal, that they gotto give up a little bit in the
deal. So I feel like that'sprobably a compromise between the two. But
it's the right choice. Like weback, it's been a while, five
six seven years now, you know, Tim's got hired in twenty twenty twenty,
so he coached the year in twentyone. He's the fifth winningest coach

(51:07):
in Knick's history. He's by farthe best higher Dolins made. Yeah.
So, yeah, it's a fiveyear delliad one year left. He's four
years in and he's a fifth winninghis coach in the history of the next
I'm not sure if you have thisstat in front of you or we'd have
to do quick math here. Let'ssay he goes through the extent of this
contract. Okay, let's see hegoes for those next four years. Yeah,
he would be the longest tenured NewYork Knick head coach since I think

(51:30):
Red Holsman. Oh gosh, Ithought it was Jeff Van Gundy. But
maybe my math was off there.Maybe Van Gundy wasn't as long as I
thought. Oh gosh, Red Holtzman, Oh, I think the look.
I have to look it. Ihave the look because it's definitely so.
Holsman was ten years, Will Sreetwas one. He'll be brown. Red

(51:52):
Holten came back too, by theway, for four more years. Wow,
I think you're right, because VanGundy was ninety six to oh one.
Yeah, five years. Gosh,yeah, what a terrible stat.
By the way, for those whoaren't familiar with the work of one Red
Holtzman, that's nineteen sixty seven innineteen seventy seven, So that means he'd

(52:14):
be the longest tenured Knicks coach inthe sixties. Yep. And and then
he came back seventy eight to eightytwo. But he is also the you
know, he's the guy who gaveyou your championships in seventy and seventy three
though, so yeah, so rightnow, yeah, I'd be second second

(52:34):
to him if he gets it,if he's able to make it through.
By the way, those names onthat list are not bum's body stretch,
Like David Fizdel at one point wasthe can't miss prospect, Jeff Hornisec was
in that spot, Mike Woodson,Mike D'Antoni, Larry there's a Hall of
famers on this list. Yeah,Hall of fame, Larry Brown, Don
Nelson and pat Riley and Rick Petito. Yep. I remember Rick Rick Pettino.

(53:00):
When he got to the Knicks,he was the one who was like,
you know what, we're gonna shootthree pointers. Even at Patrick Ewing
shooting three pointers. He and peopledidn't want to hear about it. They
didn't like it. It was sucha change. So he has a chance
to be like if he if hemakes it through this, he wins a
championship, everybody wins two whatever,Oh my god, I'd be so excited.
He could become the greatest history thegreatest coach of the history of the

(53:22):
Knicks. And that's with Red Holtzman. Will count him, but again,
we'll put him there between Red Holtzmanand Tom Thibodeau. Five Hall of famers
have coached the next and they wouldn'thave lasted longer. And Rick Pontino,
Riley Nelson, Wilkins and Brown andMike D'Antoni. He was a hell of
a coach for a very long time. There's a lot of guys in here

(53:43):
who just didn't. It didn't workthere, but it's worked. It's worked
for them. Man, What awhat a what a crazy? What a
statement? Gosh, I think it'sI think it's a compliment. I know
that didn't come off the last threeminutes as a compliment, but I think
that's a compliment to Tom Thibodeau.You know what stability, it's been so
long since you've actually had stability.It feels nice. So Nick's making good

(54:05):
moves in the offseason. Very enjoyable, It's fun to watch, an exciting
time to be a Knicks fan.Can't wait to get into the season.
See how that turns out. Wego from there. He avoids lame duck
status. All good, good thingsfor the Knicks coming up. Let's do
the Top four at four A,get into a little bit early ext then
we've got a lot of cool stuffcoming up on today's show. Still it's
live back in God's Fox Sports Radioninety nine