9-9-24 Hour 1

CDTA Kickstarter 10 stories from the weekend Daniel Jones stinks and may have always stunk Yankees-Mets looking good in September

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's kick start this Monday live from the h T
Toys Studio, that is Toys with z Well. Guys cannot
contain his excitement. The first kick starter after a full
weekend of NFL and college football broad YVI CDTA get
connected with CDTA dot org or the navigator app.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Number ten, you Aubany. Look, the score was ugly. They
fell to West Virginia forty nine to fourteen. But I
gotta tell you there were a few guys who really
really jump out on the highlight reels for me. Number one,
first and foremost, he is a highlight reel seven McGee.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This wide receiver is special. He can score everywhere.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I just think that maybe, just maybe you Metusso couple
other dudes wearing great Dane purple. We start putting boards
up on the old transfer portal so he can't go anywhere.
I don't think we're gonna let him leave ever, I
don't know. I don't know what the deal is he
can He's never allowed to leave. Also, love Miles Burkett
kid through over three hundred yards. You can see he's
starting to figure out what they're asking of him. And

(01:03):
Griffin Woodell runs tough man. So score was bad, but
this is what happens when an FCS takes on an FBS,
and it was an angry FBS as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
With West Virginia starting the season.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Zhe one I got, I got love for great days.
I think it's gonna be a good season all in all.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Add meaning probably to the one hundredth or thousandth person
who said this about the life of seven McGee. But
and just imagine being in the locker room. You're wondering
what jersey number to wear. You know, three guys wants seven,
and then seven's like, pardon me, fine win. I think
I think I can take a claim to that one.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Please, if you don't mind you OBNI will go and
take on Idaho this week. But hopefully they get that
w aus Iholic did in the playoffs. Keep get this
thing rolling, get back on the winning side of football.
Moving out of number nine, this is the story that
kind of dominated all the pre games as Tyreek Hill,
superstar wide receiver of the Miami Dolphins, was removed from

(02:00):
his car, cuffed and detained before the Dolphins game where
they took on the Jags or the host of the Jags.
He still played, he caught a touchdown. The Finns won
twenty to seventeen over the Jags. Right now as of
this exact second and the officers on administrative leave, we're
getting different, like Kalais Campbell saying when he thinks of it,
Odell Beckham Junior was unseen multiple videos of it all.

(02:24):
I always try to keep an open mind. I think
it's a very tough job being a police officer, but
there are some times that they make bad, bad decisions.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So this could be one of those. That Cheetah was
on the prow well that you called this on yesterday's
He Casino Show that Tyreek might have a big game.
Maybe we just have to say he will have a
big play that results in a statistically great game for
otherwide receivers. His life is interesting. Can we get a
documentary series about the life of Tyreek Hill? Can we
get some reality show camera crews on him? This is

(02:55):
about ten years of what is next for Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's well, hopefully no more handcuffs. That would be the
best part of it all. But yeah, he played, he
played well, and they got the w number eight. This
is gonna might hurt some feelings, but a lot of
people wanted this team's the worst.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
This team's the worst.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
The Carolina Panthers are the worst team in football. They
got blown up forty seven to ten by the Saints.
Just a total beat down. Right now. My my favorite
video on the internet their cornerback Horn talking crap to
Derek Carr.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Derek Carr looks at him and says, I threw three
touchdowns on you. Shut up. So I mean it's Carolina's.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Every one of our teams out there who lost, just
know that you're you're fighting for the second draft pick
because Carolina is getting the first.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
As we got closer and closer to one o'clock kickoff
on Sunday, and hopefully you listening didn't end up being
one of these people. They became like the sexy pick
per week one, Like I go for it, right, I
go for it. So many people are like, the Panther
line doesn't make sense, it's too small. It's a divisional game.
They have to be better than the last season. They stink,
They stink out loud. They did not get better from

(04:06):
last season. Although interested to see what happens in a
week two, let me put it like that, I don't
think they're as bad as we all think there, because
you can't stank any more than that.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Right, right, right, I think a lot of people said
that right before that game too. Look what happened all
right on the number seven of the CDTA kickstarter there
were two contracts that were still up for grabs, big ones.
People trying to figure out it was gonna happen. Dak Prescott,
Jamar Chase. What if I told you there was four
years worth of extension at two hundred and forty million dollars,

(04:35):
of which two hundred and thirty one million of that
we were just guaranteed. You probably think both deals got done.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You'd be wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Dax Steel is done four year, two forty making him
the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.
Two hundred and thirty one million dollars guaranteed. Jamar Chase,
bump kiss, you get nothing. Yeah, thank you for playing.
Got two years left their contract?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Get out there. Whatever you do for a living, if
your job is to negotiate contracts, at some point is
the hand already been shown by the cowboys? Like if
you're an agent or whoever negotiates, you're like, look, here's
what's gonna happen. They're gonna drag this out as long
as possible, but I promised you they're eventually gonna pay you. No,
why would they do that? Well, they did it with

(05:18):
Zeke and now Dak twice and Ceedee Lamb and Zach Martin.
Like what cowboys. We all see what you're doing. You've
done this like five times. Just sign the guy, or
sign them two years earlier, or don't do this. You're
negotiating tactics or public. We all get what you're doing now.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think at some point somebody probably walked into Jerry
Jones' office and went, hey, just so you know, if
you give if you give Dak sixty million a year,
someone out there just gonna have to give somebody sixty
three to sixty five million a year and it's not
gonna be us.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And Dak's good for four years. Somewhere first takes like, no,
what do you mean? We can't talk about Dak Prescott's
contract for another five years? They cross that off.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Micah Carson's needs to get paid. What's wrong with micaeh
Parsons contract? Hurry, get Browny up there.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
We need the NBA to tip off of Lebron.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
All right, I'm the number six. Hey, Caleb Williams has
become the first number one pick the start of season
opener that year since David Carr in two thousand and
two to record a w twenty four to seventeen. Bears
beat the Titans and come back fashion. The sad part
for me is I loved it the Titans yesterday, I thought,

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which is interesting to say Caleb Williams gets to win
because the offense for the Bears did nothing bump kiss
poopy cockcat duty as some would say, all the points
coming from the special teams and defense. Jonathan Owens is
is he overrated? Two?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
See? What not anymore? Not evenmore?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
He was twenty four to seventeen victory. I take the
the l on that because I was only getting four points. Oh,
you took the yell.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
But it's been a pretty good twenty twenty four for
Leavak Like he is the champion of the C four
Challenge from horse Racing. You also won last year's Ultimate
Challenge in twenty three cause Nira Vats were racially named
after me. Yet again, However, with all those victories, I
have to confess Lavac has had some bad beats this year,

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he had two by a nose in the horse racing challenge,
he had the weird Greg Schiano one. In this one
hurt because you were on the right side of this
one seventeen to nothing lead by the Titans, one of
the three double digit comebacks. Special teams touchdowns threw for
less than one hundred and fifty yards. There are people
who were like you who wager on the Titans and
still feel like they should have won that wager.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
By the way, combined passing yards was under three hundred.
Combined passing yards was like two ten to twenty. So
that's that's whatever. Ok a bad beat it was. I've
taken some bad ones. But you know what the book
he does say, Oh okay, well I didn't knowize it
was a bad beat.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, No, it counts against me. It counts against me,
and it counts against my bank role. But we soldier
on my friend. As we look at a number five
of the CDA c DTA kickstarter, the upset of NFL
Sunday had to be one that you and I were
both on the right side of. Guys, that's doing the
Patriots with a sixteen to ten win over the Bungals,

(08:25):
the Bungles, the Bengals, and it's funny to me we
mentioned Jamar Chase. I will tell you that Jamar Chase,
the leading receiver for the Bengals with six catches sixty
two yards, did not look at all like Jamar Chase,
not at all, not even a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Give it to those Pats. Great job by the Patriot.
We loved this wager. I loved it since July. You
made it your number one wager on fantasy versus Reality.
If somebody is listening right now, no way, we'll back
God's head that. Yes, we were yelling from the rooftops
all week the Patriots were gonna do this against the Bengals,
and we warned you and survivor he warned you. Scottie

(09:01):
Hansen's yelling about on a red zone. There's a lot
to like about this Patriot team. Gerard Meo coached him up.
If you're a Bengal fan, I'm putting you with the Panthers.
I don't think you're as bad as you think you are.
You've got a tough matchup in a week two when
you take on Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I will also while we talk about bad beats, what
about my four touchdown anytime touchdown parlay that Tyreek Hill scored,
Sevon Diggs scored, the running back Travis An scored the
the other one didn't score for me. Jacoby Brissett thirty

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two rushing yards on seven carries, if none of them.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
In the end zone. Share this on Thursday with our
friends over at Quinn Cancerra. This past week, including the
horse racing challenge, we profited more this week than any
of the combined thirty five weeks we've been doing the challenge.
We profited one hundred and forty dollars in one week
combined of all four of us. Really, Era hit an

(10:00):
eight to one ticket, Quinn hit a two to seven
and two point seven ticket. And if the Niners cash tonight,
I'm two point six. Yeah, one hundred and forty bucks.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, it would have been a lot more than that
if that guy Allegian butt into the end zone. Great
upset though for the Pats. Jets will play tonight in
San fran though they will not be joined by Hassan Reddick.
He will forfeit, according to Adam Schefter, approximately eight hundred
thousand per game that he misses. That is on top

(10:30):
of five million dollars in mandated fines from the NFL.
Hassan Reddick, we barely knew ye, but you broke.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Uh. Le'Veon Bell did play eventually.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Melvin Gordon, remember Le'Veon was different because Le'Veon never signed
his tender. Yes, so this is the guy under contract.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm trying to think of anybody who's actually what's like,
what's the record of never showing up? Trent Williams is
a little different. I met Smith was two weeks right,
two weeks. Uh, Melvin Gordon's about four games? How long
are you to go? Asan Reddick? How long is this
sing going to go?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Because at this point you're at five point eight million
dollars that you've lost. Like, at what point is it
just more valuable to show up? I mean literally, can
I have a five million dollars signing bonus and we'll
just whatever you want to give me, I'll take you.
That'll be the end of it, all right, Number three,
let's get we gotta get the MLB in here. It's
a good weekend for New York baseball. Yankees have reclaimed

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the top spot in the American League East. They are
now a half game up on the Baltimore Oils. Meanwhile,
the Mets nine straight, ten straight, a million straight games.
It feels like the Mets are tied with the Braves
or the final and our NUR wild card right now.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I like how people are saying, Okay, we get it.
Otani's gonna win the MVP. I believe there's an award
called the Hank Aaron Award, which is the best offensive
player in Major League Baseball that they're trying to swing
at Lindor. We see this all the time in at
the NFL. Right you have the offensive Player of the
Year than the MVP. Lindor's been that good that are
trying to change the way we're gonna award Lindor at

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the end of the season. Wow, Mets fans, who would
have thought the Paul Rudd gift of how good this
team is playing in mid September.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Nine and one of your last ten games you did
follow yesterday, But hey man, you're on one.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Keep it going.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Lots of fun CDTA Kickstarter the top two stories. How
about those Bills they rally to beat the Cardinals thirty
four to twenty eight. Everyone hasn't played until they get
punched in the face. The Bills got punched in the face,
took it hit back. I'm gonna say it right now.
I know his non throwing hand got banged up during
the game. Josh Allen MVP. Josh Allen is a bad,

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bad dude. He's the reason this gets done. It's like
if Kyler Murray was a grown human. That's Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Never count out the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen and company
from running the football to moving it up and down
the field to a young secondary. I was trashing TOMR.
Hamlin for the last few days. Yeah, I just checked
Marvin Harrison's stat line. Think Hamblin played pretty well in
that secondary against Harrison Junior slowed him down. They're still
some things to work on. I know some Bills fains

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are a little concerned about that linebacking in d line,
especially for how well James Connor played, but that is
a comfort behind victory. You said, MVP ghosts out of
state Bills fans and go wager on the MVP award
for Josh Allen because he's playing like one right now.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
He listened. It was one of those ones. He's watching
guys drop balls. He's like, you know what, all right,
I'll run there you go.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'll do what I gotta do.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I say, bleep you, Joe bu I do it myself.
Number one in the Kickstarter Giants fans, I hate this.
I feel bad about this. Dan Joll stinks he's not good.
He didn't play well at all. I don't think he
deserves all the hate. I think there's plenty to go around.
Defense didn't do what it was supposed to do. It
was okay early, kind of fell apart throughout the game.

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Twenty eighty six, they lose to the Vikings. Daniel Jones,
Jersey's burning in the parking lot, people waiting asking him
for money, to boo him when he's leaving. Number one
is the Giants will be looking for a QB. Drew Locke,
Tommy Cutletz, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
We got a lot to discuss about that New York
Giant Gamelevak, You and I were watching a lot of
it together on Sunday Live Rivers, Casino and Resort. I
think we need a whole set, and I think we
need to let Giant fans let us know how they
feel at the Jefflovac on Twitter at Tom Goss, Tomgoz
Eazy at WOFX on the app. If you're listed on iHeart,
you want to leave a thirty second clean message, you

(14:21):
know what, be careful on the app today we might
have to bleep out some of those we had a
lot of talking about involving Big Blue.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
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we talking giants coming up next. I mean you thought
those uniforms were ugly? Wait you see the play. It's
next right here at Fox Sports Radio ninety five nine
to nine eighty.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's love Acking Guz on the Voice of the Capitol
Regions sports Fan Fox Sports ninety five, nine and nine eighty.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
New Day around the NFL yesterday it felt like a
lot of newness is you know, you had Caleb Williams
out there. You got Bryce Young out there again, even
though he did start before. Jayde Daniels, Tom Brady making
his debut, and Uh the return of Daniel Jones, the
hope springing eternal as the Giants run out there in

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their century red uniform, which Gods loves. God said it
was his favorite uniform, he said. He asked me if
I buy him a jersey, you know, I got come on, awful, terrible,
disgusting Nadia, who's our tech yesterday?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Hanging out with that?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Said Rivers goes it looks like they're not wearing pants.
I'm like, God, bless you for not seeing color, because
nobody's skin color is the same as those I can
tell you that right now.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
All right, I just I still have hopes.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think there's something that's there's something we're all forgetting
when we look at our teams that didn't perform great,
right Kansas City is the only team that actually plays
their starters for any kind of minutes in the preseason anymore.
I mean there's a couple out there whatever, But like,
Kansas City is the best team in football right now,

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and Andy Reid plays his players in the preseason, so
they get time to work together, they get time to
know each other, they get live fire.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Daniel Jones played what not even quarter right? Like, how
do you expect him to come back from a knee
injury and look good when he has no live fire experience.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think that's a very polite tank of you, Lavac.
Are you defending Daniel Jones. I don't think you are,
but I feel like you are offering one more branch
to stand on.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I'm asking for a stay of execution. I'm asking for
cooler heads to prevail. And I'm setting that for a
few reasons, because maybe in week two, Gardner Minshew will
see where DeVante Adams is. Maybe I won't have to
watch the best receiver on the Raiders wave his arms
every single play. You know, maybe, maybe you said earlier

(17:23):
you think Bryce Young and the Panthers will probably perform
a little better than Week two. Maybe just maybe week
one knock a little rust off some of these teams.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Or and hear me out about this one. Maybe not.
Let's let's go to the Daniel Jones SI. I love
doing this because I know some people listening to this
show potentially for the first time. Welcome. You may not
have heard of my Daniel Jones take in two thousand
and nineteen, this is a year six for Daniel Jones.
Year six. Swallow that giant fan real quick or twenty

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twenty or twenty twenty one. He's always been terrible. Oh way,
good year, he had one good year. He had a
good year. Okay, he wasn't awful in one year. He
wasn't terrible in one year. Year all right, And that
might be the biggest problem of the whole thing timing
of Daniel Jones. Let's go back to twenty nineteen. I
think we really have to look at that draft. We're

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not gonna do it an hour on it, but look
at the twenty nineteen NFL draft. The number one overall
pick that year was Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray was selected
by a GM who the season previous had a coach
who won one game and they fired him after one season,
who then hired a coach with no NFL head coaching
experience ever in Cliff Kingsbury, who got the job. And
they decided to let Cliff Kingsbury, who had never coached

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in the NFL before draft anybody who wanted and ignored
every NFL evaluating process ever before, and said we'll take
the five to nine kid who had one good year
in college, he might be the greatest Texas high school
football quarterback ever. Let's take the kid who was the
first round draft pick in baseball at Kyler Murray. Okay,
like that alone in one year's draft might be interesting.

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But then it was followed up by, Hey, you know
that guy from Duke who played with the Mannings. You
know David Cutcliff who coached the Matings. I should say,
Peyton and Eli. The connections way back when we got
an idea. Now, this Daniel Jones guy has never been
All League at Duke. He may not be a top
five quarterback in the ACC in his own conference because

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none of the coaches or media members ever thought he
was the top four or five best quarterback in his
own conference. But we liked the connection of the Mannings.
All of a sudden, Dave Gettleman sees something in the kid.
Let's make him a top fifteen pick. He's got moxie,
he's got something, and they fire off Daniel Jones as
the pick. He was never the guy. He never should

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have been taken that high. Maybe it goes back to
this was the quarterback crop of players that came out
in twenty nineteen. The Giants had to find somebody. They
had to find an affordable quarterback, not to overpay for
a veteran. They thought he was the guy, and as
you just told me, now, the time's up. All of
a sudden, they're ready to move on. They think maybe
there's a chance they don't like the croup of quarterbacks

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that came in that upcoming draft class. And to their credit,
they actually might have been right about that one, because
I believe it's twenty twenty two. He got paid that offseason,
so twenty twenty three's draft would not have been a quarterback,
or twenty twenty four, if they had a higher pick,
they would have. He's never been the guy. He timed
it up right perfectly twice, the perfect draft class to
go into that didn't have a lot of quarterbacks that

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developed when a team really needed one in the perfect season,
have a good season because they didn't like that group.
He's always been bad except that one season. It has
always been time to move on from Daniel Jones. Now
there's no more excuses, hill Lie, Okay, that's aera. Who else?
I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I get played Drew Lock this year again? You can
played Tommy DeVito because here's here's the thing. That defense
is good enough to win games. They didn't play like it.
You're not You're not gonna have a better draft pick
than Carolina. They're probably gonna have to get off Rice
Young if they have the number one pick. I I
think you're gonna be the fourth fifth pick. Are there

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gonna be enough quarterbacks? Or do you want your door
Sanders as a giant?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Do you want quinn Ewers? Do you want your door Sanders?
Do you want Gosh? Colm Mccordbay guy Syracuse is looking good.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
He looks real good. I might be I might be
a Qus fan the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Remember Browning, the Cincinnati quarterback who stepped in Burrow last ye? Yeah,
he was awesome. Heycconnell, Hey, they're gonna have to move
on for maybe a raider quarter Can we get anybody
else besides you give me a Gardner? There you go,
same draft class twenty nineteen. Minshi was a sixth rounder. Yeah,
it's it's here.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Here's the other thing, right, So let's say we do
we we Dale Jones? You run him out there for
five more weeks and he's he's trash, He's just not
getting done or or you come out right now and go, hey,
Drew Locks healthy, gonna run dw Locked. We don't think
Dale Daniel Jones. His knee is not is not fully healed.

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We're gonna give him a couple weeks. We're gonna be
Drew Lock out there. Whatever whatever it is you do.
If it doesn't work, how much do you prune? Because
you're gonna so you prune the quarterback room. The quarterback
room you keep, You keep DeVito, you like him as
a backup. You blow out everybody else? Do you blow
up the coaching staff? Is it another regime? Because do

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you know the number one winner I think yesterday in
all of coaching was Bill Belichick because the story came
out while teams are falling on their face that Belichick
wants to coach in twenty twenty five. And by the way,
Belichick is a very intelligent man. I almost guarantee you

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that he is gonna learn something this year. He's he's
watching the Sean mcvays and the Kyle Shanahans and the
Dan Campbell's and all these other coaches who they're to
their players love him. He's watching very closely, and he
is going to integrate a little bit of that and
whatever he brings back with him in twenty five.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So if are you are you.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Telling me Tom Goslowski the third right here on September ninth,
early early in this show from the GT Toy Studio
that you want to get rid of Brian Dable and
his staff as well? Absolutely not. No, Okay, well, I'm sorry.
I don't think you'll do both. I think it's got
I think you got it. I think it's baby in
the bathwater.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I would say if the Giants decide to blow out
Brian Dable and Joe Shane and Daniel Jones, that would
be a massive mistake because watching that game, even for Belichick,
even for the Prodigal Sun, I would be very cautious
of that decision. I would Brian, because they could have
They could have done it last year if they wanted
them that bad, they could have done this whole thing

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last year and blown out everybody, at least with Belichick
and Brian did because Brian Dable was questioned his job
security a year after being named the best coach in
the NFL in twenty twenty two. If Brian Dable loses
his because of Daniel Jones, I would feel incredibly fortunate
if I was another team looking for a head coach
because or NOC because we all get it. Like again,

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head Coach of the Year in twenty twenty two, fantastic
for Buffalo. Before that, no one's ever questioned his play calling.
But I think anybody who watched the game yesterday, and
if you listen to it on our sister station picks one,
O six and love back again, you and I were
sitting right next to each other consuming a lot of
this Giants game. I never really questioned a lot of
the play calling. I never looked at and said, ooh,
that was a bad play. Should the running backs have

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maybe even more productive? Maybe should the offensive line maybe
played a little better. I get I'm really nitpicking, but
I think it makes those things a lot easier to
focus on stopping the run, blitzing moving on the offensive
line when you're gonna force Daniel Jones to beat you
like everyone can scheme against it. And I want to
give this up to the defense because Giant fan, I

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know the score doesn't reflect this. I actually thought the
defense wasn't terrible. I thought the defense was actually good.
We have to sometimes tip the cap and acknowledge what
happened on the other side of the team the game
Sam Donald played. I mean, there's there are some balls
that Donald threw that you cannot defend. He looked like
a different human being for the Minnesota Vikings. That is
one of Sam Donald's best games he's ever played in

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his NFL career. Statistically, it may not look like that.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Maybe, well that's what happens when you spend a year
learning under Kyle shannonh.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Some of those balls he threw to Jefferson looked like
it was Mahomes and Allen everything he played great. So
Sam Donald had the game of his life. I thought
the defense was good, But this is pretty simple. It's
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You realized that Salt Right Jets fans Giant fan Why
because why were the Jets able to get Sam Donald?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, they stunk. They were terrible that season. In twenty
and eighteen, the draft last before because he oh, are
you saying, because he declared early and could have went
back to USC for the next year.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Who was the pick before Donald?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Baker? Right didn't go. Baker was the number one pick
in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Am I misremembering the twenty eighteen NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I could have sworn the twenty eighteen draft class was
Baker Mayfield at won Donald at four, Lamarro's at the bottom.
Josh rose In, Josh Allen, No, I'm remembering perfectly.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Okay, you're correct, Baker may went one, who was the
second pick of the twenty eighteen NFL draft.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, Josh Roseen, Josh Allen, it's not a quarterback, Oh
my god, Saquon Barkley. Of course it is. See see
how ridiculous it is. You can't even remember it. You
can't even remember it. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
So what what you're doing right now? And you didn't
even realize you were doing it? If I'm a Giants
fan and I see that with the right coach, I
don't know. A quarterback whisper like Brian Dable, Sam Darnold
could have worked out. He could have been your pick
at two. The Jets were thrilled he slid to three
because you took Saquon Barkley, which forced you into the
next draft to draft Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And as we just noted with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson,
do come later in that same draft class. An MVP
quarterback and the MVP after week one and listen, I
love I love Taequon Barklay, and I think you see
what he's doing with Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
But if you didn't have a planet quarterback, what do
you do?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
What do you do? And I don't And I don't
know if.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Dale Jones, if he gets a different situation, maybe it's fine.
If he's like a third or fourth round pick and
the pressure's not there, he could be one of those
Jake Brownings or or or your boy uh uh, Chase Keenum.
You know he could be that dude, but we were
always going man, he needs a chance, he needs a chance.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
If anyone ever mocks the importance of the NFL draft,
if you are looking at a mock draft at October
and people are saying, come on, dude, the season's going on,
there is as Leve Actus laid out with me totally
forgetting because I can't believe how outrageous it sounds six
years later that a pick you can make your defense
you were just going quarterback. Yeah, but the point is
made that like that shows you what an NFL drafts

(27:57):
ramifications of a first round pick and have for a
frame for a half of a decade with the Saquon
Barkley pick it two. That's what it did. That's exactly right.
They had to get a quarterback in twenty nineteen. They
picked the wrong one. They had to re sign him
because they sign him in the numbers were all over
the place. They had to get a new GM. Everything
that's happened for the last six years can go back
to the twenty eighteen NFL Draft. It really can't. It's insane.

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You know it's great too.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is the top ten picks of that year's draft, only
three have not made a Pro Bowl. Your boy Baker
made it, Wow, Saquon made it. Sam Darnold has never
made a Pro Bowl. Denzel Ward, Bradley Chubb, Quentin Nelson,
Josh Allen, Rokwan Smith All Pro Bowl, Mike McGlinchey to

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the Niners, and Josh Rose in the chosen one to
the Cardinals. So the only three of that top ten
to not make a Pro Bowl. Oh and by the way,
the next three makea Fitzpatrick Vitevea, and Darren Payne all
Pro Bowlers.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
What a draft class. And even the Rose did think likely.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Number fifteen, Colton Miller, He's so close to being a
draft a pro bowler.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
He's good. It's just when you're blocking for garbage, you
look like garbage. That draft class is so second. Back
to the Rosen thing, like here we found out like
Rosen always had the physical abilities. And again the Cardinals
the next season drafted a QB, so they gave him
one GM head coach. We covered all that a few
minutes ago. But Rosen felt like mentally he just didn't
want to do it. Remember that was like the critique
out of him at uclday, like, I think he's interested
in other things than football. It seems like he's got

(29:27):
a well off life. He's gonna be fine. It seems
to have actually played a factor in what his career was.
Like he just didn't want to learn the offense, didn't
want to go to practice.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean there's always the they were right, yeah, you
know that was man.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
So the so the Jets get Sam Donald even and
Sam Donald obviously didn't work out for the Jets, but
again the coach how many different coaches was he under
says he got the Jets. The following year with the
third pick, they get Quinn Williams, Oh my god. And
then the Giants grabbed Daliel Jones with the sixth overall pick.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
But the.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I've always man, I just pour those those Dave Gettleman years,
those Dave Gettiman years he had. He had a few
good picks, but never in the first round, Never in
the first pound.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Giant fans, I wish we could come on here like
I tried to do in the CDT a kickstarter and
see some teams who looked really bad in Week one,
the Bengals and Panthers, at least in week two they
might bounce back and not be as embarrassing. I don't
have that same confidence for the Giants because it's such
a glaring, obvious thing of what it is. We've talked.
We've talked a lot about taking calls before, about whether

(30:35):
it's an offensive line, whether it's wide receiver issues. This
is clearly the quarterback position, and it's been.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yep, all right. I know they were doing power testing today.
Hopefully hopefully you didn't drop out right there. They were okay,
and by the way, but let me give you one
as a Raider fan, just you guys can feel my
I feel the pain. In twenty nineteen, the fourth overall pick,
the Raiders grab Clee Farrell out of Clemson. We just
had to pay through the nose to get Christian Wilkins,

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the exact same defensive line at Clemson who went thirteenth
instead of fourth to Miami.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
So I get it. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I understand Mike Mayock had some fun picks for us.
But is when you think about the fact that Sam
Darnold might have been the one who put the final,
like the final nail on the coffin of Daniel Jones
for a lot of you, and he probably should have
been your quarterback because people did have him rated higher
than Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, and people are wrong, but remember if people lost
their jobs over that. If I'm not mistaked, I remember
the kid in Buffalo, I think his name is Ryan
Yates or Gates said if they take Alan over Rosen,
I'm gonna quit, and he quit because he hated the
pick so much and the Bills too.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean, you think that the Bills allowed the Chiefs
to get Mahomes, but then they got Ouen.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So it all comes together and in the NFC East,
Look what's happened in the NFC East over that course
of time. Right, Dak Prescott takes over for Romo and
Dak was a fourth round pick that worked out. The
Eagles took a swing with Jalen Hurts even though they
had Carson Wentz. Herts has led them to a super Bowl.
Dak Prescott's one of the highest, if you said, I
think earlier the highest paid quarterback or player ever in

(32:08):
this year in the NFL. And then Jayden Daniels is
now a quarterback for Washington, took with their second pick
who looked like a rookie at times and other times.
He saw the excitement with two rushing touchdowns in that game. Man,
I feel like we just made everything worse for the Giants.
It is. It is worse that we gave a truth.
See I'm right there for Giant fans. Unfortunately, that sucks.
That's not good. Stop burning the jerseys. Don't burn the jeer.

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That's a waste of your own money. And even that
yelling at Jones post game was lame. Man. It was
to win. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I'm not a fan of that kind of stuff because again,
it's not like he's not trying. He doesn't, he's just
I heard it was this morning when was on wf AN.
I think it was Boomera Size that said it because
they were talking about like he sucks everybody. He's like, whoa,
you realize how great of an athlete to be just
to get where he is? And then it was like,
so the saying is, do you realize how great you

(32:59):
have to be to suck that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Bad spoken like a true quarterback? Well, MVP, the first
ever million dollar man in the NFL. Easy for him
to say. I wish I knew his first name off
the top of my head. I would have sent it
right there. Oh no, no, it's I think it's Garth.

(33:20):
I think it's Norman. I think it's it's uh no,
it's it's I'm positive it's Norman. Now at this point
it's I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
It is Norman. Let's go Norman. Julius Boomers. Yeah, I
go by Boomer too, Okay Boomer. But I thought that
it's a great point. Though you work your life, you
you spend all the time with Jim eat right, do
all the things you practice, you train, just to be
an absolute failure that none of us could do what
he did. None of us could go out there and

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look as bad as he did. We would get killed
in the first three places we'd be dead right away.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
If we're comparing the starting quarterback to the New York Giants. Two,
what does he call him? Narps up?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Non athletic, regular people.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And that's the problem. But it's just a problem.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
But it's yes, it does make it makes your head
explode sometimes. Like when you think about it, it's like
he worked so hard to have people burn his jersey
in his own fans, burn his jersey in the in
the hes.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
He did, he did.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
But what doesn't think is our friends at Mohawks Chevrolet.
You know, I love me some Mohawks Chevrolet. I just
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Galacie from Mack Chevrolet. But I see Andy was the
first one to say, good job, let's get after it.
It's because Andy's always positive, He's always got a positive

(34:44):
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better or writer, I'll make up a word that's how
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the GM's always there, he'll talk to you. Katie Gettusso Duncan,

(35:06):
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There's more vehicles than that lot than probably any lot
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They've got supplier pricing going on.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
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Speaker 1 (35:24):
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drive at Malwks Chevy where they always go out of
their way to please you. We got to talk a
little baseball, I mean, I know, football is gonna dominate
the show. But the Yankees and the Mets had a weekend.

(35:46):
Let's get into that next right here, Fox Sports Radio
ninety nine and nine eighty.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
It's Lavakan Guz on ninety five nine Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yankees, and that's doing enough. Do you get think they
both lost yesterday? But both, like the Yankees had two
and one of that series. The Mets had won nine
straight before dropping a game. But we now have the
American League playoff picture is starting to form up in
front of us. So there are three teams in the
American League with a greater than ninety nine percent chance

(36:20):
of making the postseason.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yankees, yes, Astros, Nope in Orioles Orioles Guardians.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
The Astros have a miserable ninety five percent chance. I
mean that the area barely. They're like fourth because Kansas
City's ninety six. Then they're about starting a series with
the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Say, I'm saying the mat there with Kansas City, Minnesota
and Cleveland, I red fine to close the division. Who's
the favorite to close the American League East? The favorite? Yep?
Oh man, you know I'm gonna have to say the Yankees.
And that all right?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Sixty six percent chance Orioles thirty four percent chance.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Little too high for the Yankees, a little too low
for balls. This is math. I'm not making this up.
Math math. Is that what the gen Zers say?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Sixty six percent chance of grabbing a bye for the Yankees,
seventy four for the Guardians. There's you know, it's the
hay raising. You guys should just stop playing. I think
the Yankees are computers.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's what it says.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yankees eighty eight percent chance of making the Alds, fifty
two percent, ALCS thirty one the World Series, seventeen percent
chance winning the World Series.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Hold On, hold on, I'd say a thirty one percent
chance to get to the World Series.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yes, based on the way it would lay out in
front of them.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't mean to throw you a curveball here, but
do you you have every team's percentages to get to
the World Series on there? Uh? Not every, but I
but I have.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I have six American leagues and I have six national.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Thirty one percent sounds extremely high to me. And that's
the reason I flagged that, because I thought, Okay, if
the Yankees, according to the computers, the cgi AI robots
are telling me they have a thirty one percent chance
because of the World Series. I would struggle to find
a team that might be higher than that, even though
they have a ninety nine percent chances you pointed out
there to get to the postseason. I would say they're
the highest because like the Dodgers are gonna have to

(38:12):
face off with the Padres or Diaries. The higher team
than that. Mm hm, I guess the Dodgers would be
my guess, Phillies thirty six percent chance. That's also doesn't
make sense to me because you have the Braves and Mets,
who mathematically can still get to the postseason, both of them.
Oh okay, I disagree with our robot overlords.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Well think about that when they have, you, you know,
cleaning toilets, because all of a sudden they'll learn the
dukie just so you have to pick up after them.
But that's the that's you know, the Mets right now
they are saying they have a fifty percent chance of
making the playoffs, one percent chance still the close of
the division, which we know they're not going to the division,
but forty eight percent chance of the wildcard. But I mean,

(38:57):
obviously it's primarily the wildcards their way in but the
Braves are still ahead of the Braves of the tie break.
So the Braves are the seventy one percent chance of
grabbing the wild card even though they're tied for it
right now. So that's that's where we are mathematically. But
math didn't win the championship. My friends, it's got to
be on the field. Yankees are about to start a
series with the Royals, Mets are in Toronto with the

(39:21):
Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Remember the old Big Brother. I know you and I
both like reality shows. A couple episodes this year. Not
a tough Yeah, it's much It's much harder of a
show for me to watch now because of the boys,
like a three three times a week show. Not happening
with the parents of Toddler's. But I bring it up
because there used to be a scene when they'd vote
people out or nominate people where then this big, huge
box and you'd spin the key around is somebody'd say

(39:46):
you are safe, you are safe. I feel like I'm
living this in this segment with you of Yankees. You
are in the postseason ninety nine percent. Baltimore, you are
in the postseason at ninety nine percent. It's almost as
if we're watching like I'll di here. The Mets have
not been chosen yet because of the math and the
competition that's going on for the wildcards, but they're there,

(40:06):
they're on the stage, the lives are on, they're being considered.
But the matchup here with Toronto is still some talent
for the Blue Jays and an organization that it feels
like that's been the theme of Toronto for the past
four months of we're not quite sure what we're doing
anybody or what we're doing trading wise and management wise,
expectation wise, and we were there, just never got to
break through. While New York said this is our time?

(40:29):
How different is that metfan thought next year or in
the future would be our time and now they're believing
it every single time that they have now entered the
control our own destiny phase. Although as you mentioned, Atlanta
feels more like the analytic leader New York can make
it happen. Now involved in this squad, well, I.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Mean the way they're playing, like if you believe in momentum,
and I know momentum is just as good as the
next day's starting pitcher. Susan I like, I believe in momentum.
I believe it matters when you've got a group of
guys who have to play one hundred and sixty two
regular season games, that all it takes is a little
sumthing to get them to play a little bit better.

(41:08):
You know, like back in nine when the Yankees won
it all, it was the pie in the face. It
was all that stupid stuff they were doing to each other,
you know, the filthy Red Sox, before the cheating with
just using steroids like normal cheaters. It was the you know,
the cowboy up. Just a bunch of idiots like that.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
All rallied them.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
So like right now you've got a Mets team that
they believe in their leader, which is Francisco Indoor, and
their pitching has been decent. They're getting some guys back.
Why wouldn't they believe in themselves? And if you're the Braves,
do you start playing a little tighter because you can
feel them coming.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yes, that's the problem for Atlanta. They feel New York
shipping away. Adam, a bit Met fan, kind of likes
his experience, like, ooh, I feel like statistically and historically
this has been us where we've had leads. We even
the team that people think are gonna blow it and
track them down. Gosh, there's so many moments now through
the Mets season. As we sit here in September of
that weird bullpen collapse with Edwin Diaz against Miami, remember

(42:04):
that time the bullpen didn't get this. If it can
run through a bunch of games now and say, gosh,
should the lead be two or three in the wild card,
what could have we done if we actually hung on
a little bit. You mentioned this at the end of July,
if they'd made maybe one other move of the deadline.
I know I'm sounding spoiled with that take if you're
a met fan of what could have been, because you're
in the middle of the battle right now, trying to

(42:26):
be reflective while it's happening. But all of that's true.
We are gonna have a great finish involving both New
York teams, even though as you said, Yankees are ninety
nine percent. My Arias are still in the hunt, and
I believe love act they're gonna be playing each other
later this month. Is we'll get closer and closer to
what the stand up wager we'll sit at before the
regular season of ramps.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, yeah, we got we got three game series. It's
the second last series of the season for both teams.
Could could could decide a lot of our wager, could
decide a lot of a lot of things. So, I mean,
we're it's it's still it's still moving. It's it was
a weird feeling this weekend because you said earlier, I
have been subjected to enormously bad beats. I'm losing by

(43:11):
a half point here on an on a on a
voluntarily not taken extra point. I'm losing a half point
there on on you know, a comeback. I'm losing all
this stupid stuff. I was just like, oh my god,
the Yankees, you're playing well, bleep you football. I'm gonna
I'm gonna hang out my Yankees. You're a little bit

(43:32):
I I just it's just one of those things where
it's kind of cool every once in a while to
remember you still got baseball. It ain't gone yet. We
got time. Don't don't foresake baseball. It's here for you,
my friends, and it can it can, it can get
us where we need to be. We'll be all right,
We're all we're all gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
What is it? Uh? What is it that uh?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Jelly Roll says, I'm not okay, but it's all gonna
be all right.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
That was beautifully said. I don't think I had anything
to do with the Yankees or the Mets or.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's me, just me, mean Giants fans, mean Giants fans.
It's not okay, but everything's gonna be all right.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I was very indifferent for a while on jelly Roll.
I really love I had no opinion about him. I
like him. Now, how do I know? He's great? He's funny,
he's entertaining, He's I like when he goes to the
award shows and just dances.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Just he's wrestling and choke slams people living like that, like,
how is that dude choke slamming peeps? Like, like, come on,
he's a big dude, but he moves they and they
all like, oh crap, I gotta help him up.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Now. I've been there. I've been that guy. Sorry about that.
He's a talented dude. He feels like the stand up
comedian though that if he did lose weight, as he said,
you know the old bit. Will Sasso said he references
last one that people don't find him as funny. I
hope people would embrace a lighter jelly roll. But I
don't think he's gonna I think he's gonna keep rolling
with this big man. Listen, he is, he's having a
good life.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Good for him. I'm happy for him. There's baseball is
still happening. You know, you're not nearly as cocky as
you wear about your orioles. So I feel like you've
kind of backed up.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It's been the same thing for like, here's the problem
of the Oars. It's been the same thing for like
June July, and you sniffed it out from the opening lap.
I'm gonna call it here the opening lap of Hey,
every time you think Baltimore is gonna make a move,
they're gonna blow the game. Every time the Yankees play poorly,
Baltimore does it. When you this was around the trade
deadline a little bit in August, I said, Hey, I'm

(45:28):
starting to notice something here. Why does Baltimore keep copy
in New York? Just because New York's trying to make moves,
Baltimore seems like they're trying to do the same thing.
Just because they're moving up prospects doesn't mean it almost
looks like they're copying the Yankees to stay right with them.
So as much as I'd love to yell and scream
about the Orioles, I thought Santan Daar was gonna go
deep this week. They have been the same team, great

(45:50):
in comparison to other teams in the past, but the
moments they've had to leap frog the Yankees, they just
keep doing it to themselves. Like we talk about timing
with Daniel Jones twenty minutes ago, that's Baltimore. Their timing
has not been worse this season, especially when the Yankees
play poorly. But that series coming up, as you mentioned,
the second to last one. I feel like I've said
that four times. That must mean what you've said, You

(46:11):
and I are thinking a lot, a lot of thing
similar in the first hour. Hopefully that doesn't continue. It
feels so good. I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I love I love I love winning.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
It's all I love. Hey, you want to do the
Top four four? Yes? All right?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Top four four coming up next right here. Fox Sports
Radio nine five nine, nine eighty