9-17-24 Hour 1

Mahomes liked or hated
Takeaways from Eagles and Falcons
The old men playing college football QB

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
WOFX, Troy WGYFMHD two opening W two forty EC opening,
Fox Sports nine eighty ninety five point nine.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Fact it's Levac and Guze on ninety five nine Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Live from GT Toys a studio that's toys with the Z.
It is the back end guaz Uh. Tuesday, Huh, how
are you feeling about this Tuesday?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Okay? Feeling okay? On a Tuesday, a lot happened in
the sports world. It feels like rarely on a Tuesday
and Wednesday in the fall that we have a lot
to talk about, But.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
It feels like one of those days on a Tuesday.
I think we'll start with a very special birthday shout
out to the man who owns the NFL, Patrick Mahomes,
turning twenty nine today. That's right about to get the
wall one year left. Well, father Tome can take over. Somewhere.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
There's a joke out there that someone's the liing do
the referees get him a Giffer's birthday, But you should
mention that through twenty eight he is the most career regular.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Season wins with seventy six, most playoff wins with fifteen,
Super Bowl appearances four he's tied for most wins at
through twenty eight years old with three and Super Bowl MVPs.
He's got three of them. That's his his stake in history.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Did you also mention the most interceptions turned over by penalties?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I didn't mention that seventeen eighteen. I thought it was seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I don't know what Joe Gbianssi did during Twitter, but
he got two million views for it, so it's either
seventeen or eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Which I also love to like you kind of point
out that Aaron Rodgers has forty touchdown passes on free plays.
You know, is there a chance that Patty Mahomes sees
a little little defensive interference, he goes alight, let's throw it.
It's a freebie. Let's see what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Chance.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Please don't make me.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Defend Patrick mahonmes. I'm not trying to. I just I
just feel like the wave is coming. I can feel
the wave coming of they've been embraced. It was earlier
this month where I said they're not the Patriots of
modern day, but they're making themselves the likable. They're doing it,
whether it's the Taylor Swift stuff, whether it's the officials,
whether you're fantasy football manager and you notice Mahomes and
Kelsey's stats aren't what they used to. They're leaning towards

(02:10):
being hated. Isn't it the dark Knight Levac? Either die
your hero or live long enough to see yourself become
the villain. Is he Brady? Is he the new Braid?
I don't feel like he's Brady.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
He is the Harvey Dent. See the things that are
the things that are different about all right? I didn't
want to go here. I thought we were gonna talk
about money night football all right, Monday and football come
up in a second. But I like this premise because
I hated Brady from the rep and Brady stole one
game from my beloved Raiders. How many his Mahomes stolen

(02:44):
from my Raiders were beating them? Out right, It's a
lot more than one. And I hated brain? So why,
I guess the question? Because why is Patrick Mahomes likable?
And Brady was almost never likable unless you were a
Pats fan, and now he's likable. But in the beginn
is it the winning? Is it spygate? Is it the
tuck rule? Because again, all these people are all the

(03:06):
pastor aur affarents'll y'all don't remember Brady chirping up every
referee on the planet, getting unnecessary roughness, late hits, and
everything under the sun. You don't remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
A combination of that plus being good looking, giving not
a lot of stuff to the media to criticize being
married to a model having somewhere success there.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
It is the home life, the home life. We were
all jealous of Brady's home life. Very few of us
are jealous of Patrick Mahomes's home life. She's a beautiful woman,
but she has yet to say anything publicly that hasn't
made me go ooh really. Like my favorite thing is
people are having trouble understanding why it looks like the
Kelsey's and the mahomes aren't getting along right now because

(03:50):
because Taylor Swift is come out publican support of Kamala
Harris and Missus Mahomes is a big Trump supporter. Of
course we're not allowed to talk politics anymore and get along,
so of course they don't get along. I feel like,
like two of the greatest athletes of our time right

(04:11):
now have the have like the like the home life,
where you go you kind of tilt your head like
Aaron Judge's wife is. Remember when she was his fiance
or his girlfriend. She got pulled over and she's yelling
at New York cops. Do you know whosi? Do you know?
Do you know who? Aaron Judges? He married that woman?

(04:33):
And then Mahome's whole family life. I mean, his dad's
getting deuties, his brother is one of the most hated
been on the internet. His wife's gained some fans since
the whole you know, swimsuit stuff. But maybe that's why
we like Mahomes the home life. We go everybody with
a mess up home life looks at Patrick Mahomes, he goes,
maybe I could be better.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
There's a lot of things to be jealous about with
Mahomes though, like as much as the home life. I
guess Brady wins that discussion. All the things have changed
over the course of history.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now whatever he wants, he probably gets. He probably gets
alimony from his last wife.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
At one point Brady did have the Bridget moynahan, right,
there's a different relationship. And then Mahomes a younger Mahomes
head but would have been pretty cool if your dad
was a baseball player growing up like, Hey, I got
to go to ballparks as a kid, Like there are
things across the board for both of them. I'm fascinated
by this. And maybe I'm thinking about this just because
we came off the Red Sock Yankee Rile Forry from
over the weekend and it's rivalry. Hammers don't have rivalries

(05:29):
with nails. And it's Mahomes' birthday. And we just brought up,
Brady that there is a course, there's a timeline, there
is something coming up here in history that if you
thought about this right now, wherever you're listening, there's all
any whether it's Syracuse, whether it's Buffalo across upstate New York.
You know what, No, no, no, We'll include the city on
this too. We'll do all the Empire state. If you said,
who is the most despised, the most disliked athlete by

(05:53):
New York sports fans, not because of stuff they did
off the field, but I'm talking like on the field
of play, who is the most dislike you root against
the hardest in history. I'll just throw some names out here.
Reggie Miller's on the list. I would say big Poppies
on the list. Yeah, I would say Larry Bird's probably
on the list. Yeah, I would say right now, And

(06:14):
maybe it's recency biased, but if someone said, one of
the most disliked athletes in the history of New York
sports is Tom Brady because of his dominance over the
Buffalo Bills, because of how over the New York Jets,
and how hard Giants fans rooted against him in the Super Bowl,
which is of course healthy and likely because that's a
team you're competing against. Britty might be number one.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Giants fans love him. They beat him twice in the
Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Ha.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Sheen Belichick on on The Man Cast, I did I
did he is? Eli asked if he has a dartboard
with him and Foles. He was having three dark boards,
two with you, one with Foles.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
But the Mahomes seague is fascinating because, like, could he
actually pass Brady because like the Mahomes doesn't play the
Jets as often he doesn't he doesn't play the Giants
is often. So those those crossovers and Brady haven't happened yet.
But the huge difference, massive difference between Bill's fans hating
on Brady versus Bill's fans hating on Mahomes is the

(07:11):
Bills have Josh Allen, and now there's that discussion of
who's better, who's the MVP, who can go further? We
Bills fans I'm talking. I'm a Buccaneer fan, but Bill's
fans can say this, we think Josh Allen is underrated, underappreciated,
just as good, if not better than Mahomes. Go look
at the stats. What if he got all the calls?
What if he did this? The Bills haven't been able
to beat the Chiefs. So the hate of Tom Brady

(07:34):
by Buffalo Bills fans might actually get caught because of
what's happened to Birthday Boy through his career, that he
might one day be more hated than Tom Brady by
New York sports fans.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I don't know, because again they have and I'm gonna
say that, because there's an inherent likability to Patrick Mahomes
and Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey. Now let's do the
same three people from the Evil Dynasty. There was nothing
Belichick's finally likable. Belichick had to not have a job,

(08:07):
he'd be unemployed, Dayton co Ed's to become likable. Brady
is even you almost fear Brady more than like him.
There's something about Brady that's just off putting. It's too intense.
Like I feel you could have a beer with Mahomes.
I feel like if you had a beer with Brady,
he I took that so much faster than you, Ah loser,

(08:29):
and then like run away and then the tight end
he had grounk. So they both had likable tight ends.
I don't know. I think it's likability. I think Reid
and Mahomes are just likable, and Brady and Belichick not
as much, both more now that they're behind their competitive
part of their career. But like I mean, think about it.

(08:50):
The one time we actually saw Mahomes in person, he's
ten fifteen feet away from us in a Canadian tuxedo.
Denham had to tell I'm ripping him two shreds because
I don't see him, and I'm wondering why the hell.
At that year Super Bowl radio row, Everyone's talking about
Patrick Mahomes all of a sudden, like he's the second

(09:10):
coming of Brady and Farv and manning it up. He
hears everything I'm saying and is smiling at us, And
I invite him on the show and he said.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
No, But I'm trying to think in my lifetime and
maybe someone's got a better answer. I gotta go back
really far to remember a universally loved dynasty in professional sports,
not college, professional sports, the four major professional sports, where
everybody in the country said, we're rooting for this guy,
this team, the furthest I have to go back because

(09:41):
we have the Patriots, you have those examples of the
non likability, the unlikability of those guys. Baseball, the Yankees
and not really universally embraced because people always want to
root against the Yankees and the Cowboys and those teams.
The Chiefs made here close. I probably have to go back.
The Lakers, not really like we might want to revisionis history.
The Lakers at Shack and Kobe. Remember Kobe had some

(10:03):
issues off the court that people didn't like. They didn't
like his attitude. Shack forced his way out of Orlando,
like they weren't an embraced dynasty. Probably the late nineties Bulls,
that's probably the last time he un but that felt
more about the league than anything else. But twenty five
years we've gone since a universally embraced pro dynasty and
I'm sure some fans would say I didn't root for

(10:24):
the Bulls because I was a Knicks fan or a
Suns fan or what So maybe that's what you're talking about.
Lu Fact like the fact that these guys have likability
well stands out in the history of sports for some fans.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Homegrown straight he was drafted and again, everybody, I don't
know anyone who doesn't like Andy Reid. I don't know
anyone who doesn't like like You can root against Andy Reid,
but when any Reid talks, it's usually funny, it's endearing,
it's fun.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Maybe Philly fans, but we'll get to them a little
later in the show. Well, they have no reason they
fired him. He took you to a super Bowl, you know,
Giants fans maybe, and again Raiders. I should hate both
of them, way more than I ever hated Belichick and Brady.
I mean, he needs scandal. He needs to cheat.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
There needs to be an actual cheating scandal. I think
there's he he needs. He needs a gate, you know,
birthday gate to pass interference Kate. Turns out they have
been paying off the reps every game. Something. There needs
to be a gate because all the gates are why,
because like Brady and Belichick, they'd win, they wouldn't be lovable,
they wouldn't be friendly, they would just do whatever. And

(11:27):
then you're like, oh, I just I just want a
reason to hate him. And then they gave it to you.
Here's spy gate. Does that help? And then people start
debunking spy gate and whatever ear he's trying to and
then you know whatever, and they whatever, the Patricks kind
of rally around it, and that starts to dissipate a
little bit, and then all of a sudden, deflay gate

(11:49):
a can can He's all these guys going just NonStop.
And then the massage parlor gate.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Uh, we want scandal. Even the Bulls had the gambling
scandal and Rodman we had. That's the right, Levack. What
is chief gate? Referee gate, gambling gate, don't play my
quarterback gate?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't know, get us the gate to take down
the chief dynasty because right now they're too likable. It's
no fun. I don't know anybody who hates the Chiefs
like I just like the team, the franchise, but like you,
when it gets right down to it, if you're walking
past the television and Chiefs highlights are on. You watch
because Mahomes is gonna do something something crazy. You watch

(12:36):
it where like it used to be. If I walk
by and Patriots highlights were on, I'm like, I hope,
I hope it's a highlight against them. I hope whoever,
who's this other team, the Jacks. I hope the Jacks
catch an interception. Run it back. What it was like,
it was just you never want Nobody liked them. It's
only Tuesday. It's not even three fifteen on a Tuesday. Ye.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I love Kansas City Sunday night. I love the Chief Sunday.
They haven't covered the past two weeks. They're two and oh.
I don't know what type of movement we're gonna see.
We'll talk about the Falcons win threen a half on
a Sunday night game, and they get the Chargers in
week four. I think they're gonna pound Atlanta on Sunday night.
My home is gonna be lighted up.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
My first plush of that game was Atlanta. Well, you're
wrong already I was. I finally got a standalone game.
I finally got one.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I don't, you can't. I'm not doing a double or nothing.
Beer bet on that one. We got way too much
time till now and Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
No no, no, no, no no, I'll never see the
other one. I gave you a date and the time
for it's one beer. You should have walked in with
a forty ounce or something, you know what I mean, like,
so you should have done give.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Me posted on that. By the way, we can do
that day.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't care if I'm in the state, I'll go.
I want to. I want to pay off two bets
and onen't. Yeah, it's not you can't do that. A
Night under the Orange Roof was the first bet, so
the beers included in that. Oh man, you know what
that actually might be? Right? Yeah, you know?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
So, okay, fine, you know what October fourth, hold on, okay, hold.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
On one second. I'll give you some credit. We'll give
you a little respect right now. I thought you were
gonna argue that. I gotta tell you, it's not often
that you surprised me in a positive way, Thomas Gozlowski
the third, But you just did. That's a man points
right there, buddy, man points. I'm right, dang, holy cow,

(14:28):
try to don't even know who you are anymore in
a good way.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Look at me paid off my bets, not trying to
combine him into one and a bet, and.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
That I haven't paid off anything yet. Let's not right.
Let's you're in your theoretical payoff of one bet. You're
admitting that you can't use it to pay off both.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I waited eight months to paid off and told you
this is the time I can do it. Then I'm
going to offer you a second date for the beer,
to be determined over the course of the next three months.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, anyway, daughterr on the phone, you still have to
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that was Luckily she still knows how to have fun.
I haven't let her grow up all the way. But
that bet was what she was a teen, an early teen,
maybe even maybe not even a team.

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Speaker 3 (22:17):
Kid on ex Tampa Bay Brady was embraced because he
was likable for showing some personality. New England Patriots. Brady
was hated because he towed the line, and Belichick is
such as comeback not on yeah actually actually speaking of
cheating Brady even cheated in Tampa. What are you talking about?
Cheating in sandwit? You what he got down there during

(22:39):
all the COLVIT restrictions he went to he went right
to Leftwich's house, but he went to the wrong house,
so he walked in some random stranger's house talking about football.
Then they saw him running drills with people in the
park where he wasn't supposed to be. The park was closed.
So he always a cheater until well now he's not.
Now he's not cheating because now he's part of the Raiders,

(23:00):
So now he's a brilliant human. I, like many people
during twenty twenty and during COVID, have blocked all that out,
ignored any of it happen, and then changed the way
I thought about it years later. It is weird, Like
what a different Like you and I tried to live
our normal life as much as possible. We went to work,
we did the show in the studio, the whole nine.
But like, do you ever miss it? Miss COVID some

(23:25):
of it? You mean the lifestyle of COVID. Yeah, like
no lines, Like no, I could drive from my house
to our studio at the time in like ten minutes.
There was never traffic. I never I never sped. I
didn't have to. There are I locked in the cruise

(23:46):
like two miles per hour over? Oh it's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
There are some businesses LEVK that have never changed since COVID.
They've gone full remote, like that is some people's job.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, think about the track. The track stopped taking cash events.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, how people consume media and content podcast.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Zoom, food and alcohol that changed. You can get road
sodas now, you're they got sealed, got me sealed? Well,
you can take a drink, you know that.

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A bunch of my buddies from Syracuse all sell alcohol
for a living, and they're like getting crushed by some
of their bosses. Like we just don't see the numbers
from twenty twenty from you guys.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
You're just serious.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (24:22):
See the numbers from us.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
My buddy Craig, who owns All Star Wide and Spirits,
he told me during like it was probably two months
into like everything, so everything was it was it was crazy,
but it was it was calm. It was everything was
still weird, but it was kind of He's like, I'm
doing holiday weekend numbers on like Tuesdays.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm like I'm sure he is because I follow him
on Instagram. Now, Oh, he's enjoying life right now.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I want I want to go grow That's what I
want to when I grow up. All right, But you
know what I didn't I like that we can go
to sporting events again. I like all that. There's that.
I'd tell you there's only about three percent of it.
I actually miss I love that it got me into
mail order groceries. I don't I don't can't remember last
time I went to price shopper. I can't remember it can't.

(25:12):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I
have I don't think I've been a price chopper like
six seven months.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
I have no idea still to this day, what time
Eddy Television shows on behindsides live sporting events. I have
no clue. I this conversed with my wife the other day.
I said, having a baby in COVID, so our our
first time. Rex was born in June of twenty twenty.
That was the baseline.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh, I remember you were like you were like Fort Knox.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, so like when any other babies now I've been born,
were like outside the first week of birth? What about
the what about the winner, like, oh no, no, like
that's our base.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
We thought like, well, this is what we did with
the first kid. Why would they ever do these things?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
We just don't know. You know. It's taking baby West
and just throwing them outside, just like here left that
homeless guy. Catch him. It's good for his immune system.
We're supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Born around Thanksgiving. Like he's gonna travel. Gone did to
the hospital to home? Oh you remember COVID.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
You could catch it standing but not sitting. I hate pretzels.
I don't have it. It's fine, all right. I mean
a lot, there's a lot of bad things that happen,
But sometimes I just look back. All right, last night
we got one, right, we got one, We got one.
I was more right than you. You were right, yes

(26:25):
you where. Atlanta Falcons beat the Eagles twenty two to
twenty one. And it was. I keep hearing this massive
debate on why the Eagles lost, and I understand that
if you're being overly rational, you can say, well this

(26:48):
this play call or this or whatever or that or
the other thing you gave a running back? Was it
fourteen million a year thirteen? Set out somewhere around there,
you know, you're plus million year quarterback. Throw a football
perfectly into your thirteen to fourteen million dollars a year
running back's hands, and he didn't catch the ball. I

(27:12):
love Saquon Barkley his fall. Okay, the game is over
if he catches the ball. Oh why did shar rudda?
That's that play is crazy? He was alone with his
thoughts the only like he was. That play worked perfectly
except for Barkley didn't catch the ball. We hear it

(27:33):
all the time for whether you're sixty years old or
six years old. There used to be an old saying
in football, it hits their hands, you should catch it. Yeah,
that gets taken to a.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Ridiculous degree with the guy jumping over to another defender.
It barely hit his hand.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
People try to extend that quote.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
That is not an exemple of it. That is as
simple as come on, the ball hits you right in
the hands. As he said Levac, he's got all the
space in the world. He's got to make one play.
It's a fantastic play call. It drives me nuts that
if you are an Eagle fan and you're screaming about
how bad the play call was or what Sirianni did poorly.
That is the right call. The play wasn't executed. There's

(28:08):
nothing else to it. Now, there's a lot more that
happens after that game and how Atlanta wins, But you
had the game right there. Saquan's had a really nice
start to the season. He's got to make that play
and everybody knows that.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
And let me like, so, I've heard some people try
to draw the comparison to you know, the Seahawks throwing
the ball instead of running it against the Patriots in
the Super Bowl. Okay, a couple differences, couple couple couple differences.
That ball was into traffic and that was the only

(28:40):
thing that was gonna you were you were throwing it.
I I agree that was a bad play. Call this again,
say this play works perfectly. Saquan is all by himself
if the big personnel in the middle of the field
to try to stop anybody who comes up the middle.
It's such a well drawn out play that if he
was covered, Jalen Hurts could have followed him right out

(29:02):
into the flat and probably still got you the first down.
So like it was, and then people are trying to
blame Kellen Moore, like, who called the plays? So, dude,
the play worked. I mean, I hate over simplifying thing
because you could also, I mean you could you could
go back and or you go forward. And you know,

(29:22):
Jalen Hurts makes too much money to throw that crappy interception.
What all these things right? You could do all of it.
The defense should have been more prepared to you know,
a little lesson. You shouldn't called prevent because all prevent
does is prevent you from winning. And then the Falcons
gonna get down the field as fast. There's a million
things that play right there. Saquan catches, the ball, drops

(29:42):
to a knee on the other side of the first
down line. Game over. It's over. That's that's the play.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
If you look at the NFL since twenty twenty two,
And he said, okay, what NFL team is most known
for his short yarded situation, running the football, trying to
get enough yarns to move the chains. It's the push push.
It's the Philadelphia Eagles. There are a lot of coaches,
a ton of coaches, and this goes to any level.
And if you're not a coach, maybe you're a coaching

(30:08):
in high school. Maybe you're doing pop warn or whatever
it might be. Maybe you're one of these coaches can
learn this lesson. There are times in a game where
you call two or three plays to set up that play.
I'll use my coach in college, Kevin de Wall would
do this, and it would blow my mind that his
mind would work like this. He would do things like
this where he would say, Okay, we're gonna run a

(30:29):
dive on first down. Oh gosh, I hope coach Drock's
not listening at union. I'm giving away their play calls.
Then we're gonna run a dive on first down. We're
gonna run another generic play on second down. And that's
when you'd set up a trick play so he would know,
like a drive in advance, this is the play call
I'm gonna call on third and eight because I'm setting
up the defense for this. Billy sets them up for it.

(30:51):
You and I are the same thing. We both believe
all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yep. I'm actually looking at Saquon's contract right now. I'm
I'm college Shannigans. I'm calling the super Troopers Shanniggins. Hey,
what's that place with all the stuff on the walls
Withanigans pistol whip. His contract is designed so it's a

(31:18):
three year, thirty seven million, seven or fifty thousand dollars deal,
twenty six million guaranteed at signing. However, it's actually written
like a seven year deal, where twenty twenty seven he

(31:40):
twenty twenty seven to two thousand and thirty automatically void,
but they're written in twenty seven is a void slash
unrestricted free agent year. Each one of those years he
scheduled to make somewhere between his cap hit in twenty seven.
Even though it's avoided years twenty million dollars. They they

(32:00):
moved his money into the years he's not on the team.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I would have to dig deeper into that contract the
stuff're talking about. I wonder if that is a new
strategy for running backs of I'm not sure what my
value is going to be deeper in my career. I'm
not sure if when I hit the day age of
thirty or thirty plus, I may not get paid. So
to cover my butt, I'm gonna take the money.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Now.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I don't know what the strategy is on that. That
would be me trying to rationalize how that contract would
break out.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
But it's just weird because like it's written as like
a seven eight year deal, but it's instant avoiding of
the majority of the I just it just goes to
these contracts, these salary caps, they're not they're not real.
Someone on this plane is not real. And it's that
NFL contract like they just write them. They make them

(32:46):
so confusing that there's no chance for It's the same thing.
Lift the hood of your car. You don't. No one
knows what anything is anymore. I used to be able
to climb into my pickup and change the oil and
everything right inside. Right inside there was slammed six.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Didn't you hear that COVID takes standing and sitting. Weren't
you with us ten minutes ago? What makes sense?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Crazy remote work? It's so crazy. I'm so wound up
today it's gonna be I'm I want to fight somebody.
Bring somebody in here. No, no, I want to fight somebody.
We can't have interns anymore, and keep wailing on them.
Where's Zach? He'll heel? Uh. I saw Adelia who was
too sick to work with us on Sunday. I go,

(33:32):
you're done playing six? She was? I almost died, like
all traumatic? Why she started laughing. I was like, go home.
She said, she almost died.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
You know what I asked her? I asked her, God,
how you feel? And she goes, I've never been better.
You playing to the audience here. Let's try to turn
us against each other. I see what she's up to.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Evil d evil d all Right, any takeaway from this
game besides the fact that Sa Kuan was the problem? Yes,
and all you Giants fans, all you Giants fans two
were on the ledge because he scored three touchdowns in
one game. He also dropped that pass a lot here.
Allowed to take away from this game?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
I look at uh, let's go with a broad brush
here because this will affect New York coaches and whatever
your favorite team is. Matt Vergram's the first person I
ever heard say this, and he went right to Twitter.
Matt might be on with this next week. By the way,
he had the quote that I love and I'll give
him credit for it. Why do NFL head coaches fear
scoring points? I texted that to you yesterday. Just take

(34:27):
the three like there will be the first half of
that game, Like there are times in a game where
maybe you don't punt, Maybe situational deeper in a game
less than four minutes ago, you're gonna go for it
on fourth down. Maybe we get every situation calls for
something different, but in the first half, when nobody's moving
the football just to get the points, don't fear putting point.
No other sport works like that, basketball, baseball, Nobody else says,

(34:50):
I don't know if I want to run this, I mean,
really feeling, do we really want to shoot it on
this possession and take it one.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
At the net.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Only NFL coaches fear getting points, So please remember that
take when your team decides not to kick a field
goal from thirty five. And kickers are great this season.
People are hitting fifty yarders like it's nothing now. So
that's one takeaway I hand from the NFL in general. Uh,
the Sirianni hate. You know, I've been a Sirianni defender.
Didn't realize how many consecutive games it's been. With seven

(35:16):
of nine, eight of ten, he's approaching that category of
how many. All right, maybe they are playing pretty bad
and maybe a J. Brown is far more valuable into
that offense than even Eagle fans realized after the last
night's game. So that's a takeaway I have asked for Atlanta.
I still don't know if they're good, like that is
a show they're good.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You think they're good. I think they're good. I think
they're figuring out who they are, like I don't. I
think the players, the talent is very good. I think
the coaches are still learning. Because Raheem Morris second go
round as head coach, I think he's gonna be okay.
But right now you saw it like as they figured
it out, the defense got stronger when they needed to,

(35:58):
the offense really started moving with it. They the stat
I saw that blew my mind. From week one, one
hundred percent of the time if they were in the
shotgun it was a pass, which is kind of it's
not that far off, like a lot of teams will
run a toss or whatever, and it was like ninety
six percent of the time. But they were on the pistol,

(36:19):
so the pistols wringing the shotgun with the running back
standing next to you. They they also threw the ball,
so there was like no there was no there was
no disguising, no play action. Kirk Cousins hell of a
quarterback on the play action, they said that last week
he wasn't able to go under center and get the
ball over to be John Robinson. A lot of the
running plays he did that all night. So I think

(36:41):
they've tried to over protect Kirk Cousins, and now that
they realize he's he's okay, I think you're going to
see that offense start to play more like it's supposed to.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
This might be me as a Buccaneer fan, being a
person who roots against the success of the Falcons that
every time I remember a successful Falcon team, there was
always some type of light flash taking over. Like the
team that was the number one seed in the postseason,
that Falcon team who got beat by Green Bay, remember
one see their best team in the NFL, the team
that got to the super Bowl and had the twenty

(37:10):
eight three lead, which he also random you texted.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I just texted something like what's your dinner or something,
Guys like, I'm still not over the Falcons losing the
Super Bowl. Wait what seven years ago we had just
old people jokes about other stuff that happened in history.
But look, the Falcons have always been flashy. When they've
been good. They get to the super Bowl. That's a
twenty eight three lead. Matt Ryan's the MVP that season
and the number one you takeaways that teams that make

(37:36):
the Super Bowl good.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
No, no, no, that's not what I said, you.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Lit, I did say.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
What I'm saying is that every time the Falcons have
been good, they've been flashy. I don't remember a good
boring Falcon team. Michael Vick is tearing it up in
the Dirty Birds. That super Bowl team. Every time in
Atlanta has been good. They've made national headlines. They've had
something that stood out to them that was a boring
Falcon team. And I know Falcon fans are probably like,
we'll take boring. We've taken a heartbreak, we've taken losing.

(38:06):
If you're a team is gonna go eleven and six,
it will be the most boring team in the NFL
to watch. Where do we sign up?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
They really didn't. They go the length of the football
field in like a minute.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, ninety five percent of that game they were boring.
That five percent was awesome.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
I think I think they're here's what it's gonna come
down to. Any offense run by Kirk Cousins runs the
risk of appearing boring. He doesn't have Justin Jefferson, but
he does have Drake London and Kyle Pitts. Like can
once he gets comfortable, will one of those guys become
that Most importantly, he's got beehonn Robinson. If they actually

(38:44):
use b Seon Robinson the right way and he starts
getting the ball in the flat, down the field, run
all of it, it's it could become flashy. It could
become flashy. But most importantly, you're just scared. You're just nervous,
scared of the Atlanta. I would have felt a lot
better if they didn't come back last What do you

(39:05):
want to do when they win next weekend Atlanta? Yeah,
well that's gonna get pounded this week when they beat
the Chiefs in Atlanta, in hot Atlanta, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 4 (39:19):
They are gonna get what are you They are gonna
get pounded by the Chiefs this week because here's what's
gonna happen. I feel on a Tuesday, and I can
I will make my official pick on social media because
we're off from Rivers this weekend. But my feel of
that game right now on a Tuesday is that, but
Checko's got a broken leg, there's rumors that maybe by
the end of the show wrapping today, kream Hunt might

(39:39):
sign with the Chiefs and come back and do so.
They're not gonna have much of a run out.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Event already picked them up in every league, did get
him in one.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I was real excited about that, dream Hunt said in
a nice career, bad agent and just hostly made mistakes.
Right at the time, he said he signed with the Saints,
but they didn't sign and then they never signed him.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
It was just bad agent for they went back to
the Browns. They never played it never played. They already
a good running back a little older. Now the Chiefs are.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Gonna say, hey, we don't have much of a running
attack here. We're gonna let Mahomes theer it out. Kelsey
hasn't doing much statistically. They had an injury to Hollywood Brown.
Mahomes is gonna throw the ball like fifty times on Sunday,
and I will trust that. So no Atlanta will get
pounded on Sunday. But I will answer your question, what
if they beat Kansas City?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
What if they win?

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I will then be nervous as a buccaneer fan, because
if you go out.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
And you don't believe in Carson Steele. No, have you
seen the pictures of Carson Steel on the interwebs. It's
like him with his flowing blonde hair riding an alligator.
It's like, if you signed Carson Steel, you need to
use Samari p Ryan. I think it's listen to Tanny Reid.
Any read knows how to work with and without running backs.
He'll be all right.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I'm not going to google the name Steel on a computer.
Hopefully some people will pick up on that joke.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I'm not. I'm not gonna pick up now. Give me
so you're talent me one dimensional offense you're gonna go to.
I'll bet you beer right now now. I'm holding it
until Friday. Well, i'll bet you beer right now, because
what if I told you chiefs Open is a four

(41:13):
and a half point favorite of the road, they were
instantly about down to three and a half.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I don't like that as much, don't feel great about it.
I'm just gonna talk myself and do it on Tuesday.
A lot can happen if if I get a report
on Thursday that Carson Steele is getting the majority of
the alleged reps in the backfield, I will hesitate if
I actually find out Mahomes and Kelsey are injured, I'm
also so I got till Sunday to make that pick.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
But right so, just survey knows how I do my
even though there's there's no reason to side with me
at this point, I'm one and two and one and two.
I always look through it first, the one and they.
I write down all the ones that pop. That's one
of the games that pop the most of me. That
is the text book early season chiefs law us that game.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
What if I told you that for two consecutive weeks,
the winner on Monday Night Football has not covered the
previous week or the following week. Winners on Monday Night
Football don't cover or zero?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
And who are they? Okay? Now in the Eagles get good?
Good because because let me, what if I told you
that the Niners were banged up even more and that
the Eagles probably should not have won that game the
first game in Brazil, I think you and I would disagree,

(42:39):
is what we've say. Brazil.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
All right, Atlanta and uh listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
It's out there. Do you you got all your stats?
I got my gut. I'm gonna go with my bag
old Bowry. I'm telling you right now that Falcons win
that game outright, outright money line who money line? Obviously
I will take I will take the three and a half. Mama,

(43:06):
the back raised, ugly kids, not stupid ones. But this
is go Look every year, at some point early the
Chiefs drop a game that everybody goes, wait are they
what's going on? Oh they're not. They're not indestructible. This
is the one Falcons got their groove back during that game,
that last that that big charge down the field. I'm

(43:29):
telling you, listen, you do you this will be all
week long, touse Falcons. I want to I want to
double on with it, but I want you to serve.
I want you, I want you to have like three
of your sister in laws serve the beer in a
chalice whin this one. This is another beer.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
This is another beer bet.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's why I'm I mean, that's I know. I'm offering.
What do you got you want to put some put
something out there.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm thinking, since we're off at Rivers, this feels like
a meal at Rivers bet.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
The next time we come back. Why do you always
make sure it's something you don't have to pay off?
For like weeks and a no.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
No no, I'm like, oh for a thousand on the
beer bet. Even the word out loud is frightening.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
You mean any average bet? All right, we will iron.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Out the details. How about by this Friday Fantasy versus
Alley schedules for four twenty we will iron out the
details of what could be our cheese falcons bet.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I'll tell you what you want a spoiler hour from now,
a pound an hour from now, I'm gonna make the
falcons my play of the day today. There you go.
You don't have to listen. You can go. You can leave.
If that's all you were staying for, get out of here,
save yourself some time.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Let me just spend time with the family. Well's speak
about the family. Of the fact, I was adny time
with my family and said.

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Speaker 3 (50:12):
Fun fact. I think you'll I think you'll enjoy this
in particular, Oh, Ghazi Bear, did you know? Hold on?
My computer has changed from what I wanted to do
something else, and I'm mad at it. I'm just gonna
start screaming and speaking like this. Saturday's matchup between Utah

(50:34):
and Oklahoma State, the combined at age of the quarterbacks
it's forty nine. However, Sunday, when the Colts take on
the Bears, the combined age is forty four. So for
Utah you've got what appears to be Puffy Gardner Minshew.

(50:55):
He is a seventh year senior. He's twenty five years old.
What heck is his name? He previously was at Texas
I believe are we talking cam Rising here? I believe yes.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Now he may not play. He may not play. I
hope he does, just for the sake of this conversation.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Though, why wouldn't he play?

Speaker 4 (51:12):
I believe he did get injured, so he has the
chance for an eighth year.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Also seventh year senior Oklahoma State from Texas Tech in
Michigan who is twenty four years old. His name escapes
me too. What heck is his name? Uh? Bowman is
his last names. He's very very old. So both seventh
year seniors twenty five and twenty four. Meanwhile, Sunday, Anthony
Richardson going against Caleb Williams, both of them twenty two

(51:40):
and Caleb's in his first year, Anthony's his second year
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I loved Oklahoma State in the preseason. That was my
number one favorite play for them to win the Big Twelve.
And then because of the seatings this year, you could
potentially do one hundred dollars ticket for them at one
hundred and one to win ten thousand dollars and hope
they get to the Semis and just start hedging. Well,
they got a five to twelve matchup they won. They're
in the Semis and they have an adult is their

(52:06):
quarterback and Alan Bowman, the winner of this game could
have win the Big Twelve and be a fantastic bet
to win the National championship if you'd like to hedge.
Some people never hedge in their life. Yeah, Isaac Wilson
might be the starter for Utah, but I'm rooting for
Cam Rising. I want this matchup to happen. I hope
Cam Rising gets healthy. If you don't remember his story
in twenty twenty three, he got hurt in the Rose Bowl.

(52:27):
In twenty twenty two, he tore his ACL and then
there was talks of well he can play in twenty
twenty three, but he keeps going to a California doctor,
not a Utah doctor, like he's from California. Because everyone's like, well,
all the Utah doctor says he can play? Who's the
Utah doctor employed by? So Yes, there is now a
true possibility that Cameron came Rising can come back for

(52:50):
another season. I don't think Alan Bowman can. Alan Bowman cannot.
He's he's done.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
How old is Isaac Wilson because he might.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Still Isaac Wilson was a transfer from Southern Utah. I
don't I hope, I hope he's.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Not as old. I don't think he is. I mean,
he doesn't have to be super old and still be
older those guys older. Yeah, grouping.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
He is listed as a freshman. He made his collegiate
debut against Southern Utah. So's he's allegedly a true freshman
of whatever in the world. That means that he more
in college football.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, I can't find it as actual. It's weird how
they do that. Like some of these guys you go
and like you can find everything. Some of them like
hide all the details, which is just funny to me.
I mean, I'm looking at men's basketball recruiting. He's nineteen,
he's nineteen. Okay, he's nineteen, So forty three damn it?

(53:45):
All right, Well we're so close. I just I just
think it's crazy that we're in this world right now.
And again, a lot of it's COVID but seven year
seniors and like they're not going to school to be
doctors or lawyers, are dentists. They're going to school to
be quarterbacks coming out of school. Coming out of school,

(54:06):
they're like older than anybody else in their quarterback room.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
That's gonna be the best that's gonna be the best
game of the weekend. The winner of that game, Utah
and Oklahoma State can go deep in the College football Playoff.
And they've all benefited from them. They've all played the rules. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
They got eligibility. They're helping our team get aout. I know,
Gundy's made headlines about not having enough money, and Utah
has moved around a bunch of conferences. This is a
really good game this weekend, and that I actually enjoyed

(54:30):
this game more than any other game. I know there's
like Oklahoma's playing Tennessee and that's got some intrigue. I
know we have more ranked teams with bigger tests this week,
but sign me up for Oklahoma State Utah.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Like, if you're let's say you get into the draft,
you're twenty five. So Michael Pennis basically bo Nicks, Michael
Pennix has to set a year behind Kirk Cousines at
least one. Like, as much as I know, Brady's like, hey,
we gotta we gotta do this right, you gotta sit.
Nobody should be touching the field of the rookie year,
all this other stuff. How bad do you want to?

(55:02):
Like with ban When Bulman comes out, he's twenty five,
rising comes out to me twenty seven if you're right,
and he gets to play another year, he's been an
eighth year senior. Like, you're twenty seven in the draft
as a quarterback. I think about Chee. You didn't leave
to go play baseball? Like Winkie and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
It's this is the part that gets lost in this.
It's not the first contract, it's the second one. Because
let's say he's actually good. Well, we'll play the whole
thing out. Let's say the twenty seven year old quarterbacks great,
and he was a first round pick, so you kept
him for five seasons because he was a first round
pick and you don't want to redo his deal until
after his third year. Yeah, so now he's thirty one.

(55:43):
How much money are you giving a thirty one year
old quarterback in his second contract?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
How about if he's amazing and you're not even sure
if you could take the fifth year option because he's
now thirty two, I don't know, Probably find somebody else.
He's washed up, old fart insane, all right. I just
thought that was fun. So one of the great stories

(56:08):
of this weekend when it comes to college football and
the pros, as we have starters out there who are
twenty two years old, each one of them second year
in the league, who top four to four is coming
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