9-30-24 Hour 3

What happened to the Bills? Is there any soiution?
Previewing Titans-Dolphins and Seahawks vs Lions
The Dump features a portrait of Goz's sister in law and his battles on social media over NIL

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Where's the music?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's Levak and Guz on ninety five to nine Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Radio, Nelly starting off the third hour.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Rough there, girl, Come on, poor thing, she's quite tired.
I don't know why though, I don't even know her.
All right, So the Buffalo Bills fall in a pretty
dramatic fashion of the Baltimore Ravens. Last night we discussed
this off and on on the Ravens the best team
in the NFL. First time we gotta do is got
to look at what the Bills of doc.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Wait wait, wait, wait, first thing, we gotta go back
to what you just said. You and I have discussed
on and off if the Ravens are the best team
in the NFL? Are you saying in reference to the great,
the Stinky, the Noga David Hellman in the Power rankings?
Because I thought tomorrow right? I thought about Helman watching
that game last.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Night, thinking about it a lot, don't you.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
More than I should? And I thought about how much
he loved the Baltimore Ravens and how high they were
on the power rankings, how they were one and two,
And I yelled in screen for the last two weeks.
And then I watched the game and I thought, but hellman,
you might have been right, might have been a right,
as you say, bring out the helm and you bring
out the best.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, all right? So that I mean, that was arguably
the most dominating performance against a good team we've seen
this year. Yes, the Bills. Here's I think the only
way we can really look at the Bills, because the
Bills are up there. For me, I remember, this was
my ANFC championship game. Is this an anomaly? So you

(01:30):
beat the Cardinals thirty four to twenty eight. You had
to come back to do that. The Cardinals had you.
You beat the Dolphins thirty one to ten. Tua gets hurt.
It's a whole different, whole different animal, doesn't you know?
They don't have their offense, can do nothing. You annihilate
Jacksonville forty seven to ten. Jacksonville appears to be a

(01:51):
steaming pile of poop. And now Derrick Henry just stomps
you into the dirt, I mean, just just runs all
over you. Thirty five ten. You lose to the Ravens
in a standalone Sunday night football game.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
What happened last night was very much eye opening for
a lot of things. For the Buffalo Bills fans one
Josh Allen. If you are not a Josh Allen fan,
I don't care who you root for. The Dolphins, the Jets.
Levak likes the Raiders. I love the Bucks like I'm
a Josh Allen fan. Not just because you and I
have covered him before in camp, not just because we
saw how he acted off the field. He was a warrior,

(02:29):
and I don't know, I know we use that phrase
almost too much, but some of the hits he took
last night, there were two times last night in the
game of the fact where I'm like he's done for
the game. He's taking a shot on his arm, he's
getting blasted by the Raven defense, and he's still doing
anything he can to make place that play he had
along the sidelines. I saw some saber metrics that call
him analytics where he's throwing the ball like he didn't

(02:50):
have any anywhere to move, and he still made plays.
So the Bills last night, as always, relied on a
lot on Josh Allen to make plays. The young Widers
was to make plays. James Cook had been strong. There
were some plays on defense. I know Von Miller almost
got embarrassed on one of those goal line rushes by
Lamar Jackson. So as much as I want to trash

(03:10):
the Bills and say they got exposed and everything else,
I saw the Bills mof he was a little bit
more positive than I thought because they said this is
something we can build off for. They went very coach
cliche on it. The Bills know their biggest test in
the AFC. It's that team right there, the Baltimore Ravens
and the Kansas City Chiefs after that, Like, you might

(03:30):
benefit from the math, And I love saying that because
that's a true thing that happens from post season time.
We're gonna watch it coming up with the Major League
Baseball postseason two where maybe Buffalo just by math can
avoid one of those two teams until the AFC title game.
That's the biggest benefit because those are the toughest matchups.
That was a bad matchup, by the way, not just

(03:53):
for the Bills, for any team in the NFL. Trying
to stop what Baltimore did last night is tough for Ready.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Buddy, No, absolutely, But it's the thing is Baltimore wasn't
able to do that until what like the Dallas game.
But even even that didn't look like this. This was
an ass one like I'm sorry, this is a good
old fashioned one behind the barn. Whatever. So here's here's

(04:19):
the thing. If you are the Bells, you still have
ahead of you. You're you're going to Houston, You're you're
going to the Jets, you host the Titans, You're going
to the Seahawks, you're hosting the Dolphins. It's too back
by that. And who knows at the Colts. Colts are
gonna fight you. And now they got they got Flacco,
They're unbeatable.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Jonathan Taylor one of the best running backs in the NFL.
And we all know it's Flaco.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
We're wacko for Flaco here, Chiefs, Niners, Rams, Lions, Pats, Jets, Pats.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Again, did you say any easy games?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Maybe they give up by the end. I don't think so.
The Titans maybe, but even that's gonna be a fight.
So here's here's the question. What did you see last
night from the Bills that can be fixed or you
believe will be fixed, Because that's what it comes down to.
The way the Bills played last night, you are not
beating top quality teams. They now know they can run

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on you to the outside just stay away from the middle.
They now know that if they can, you know, just hassle.
The little guy should here there. Whatever the hell's name is.
A wide receiver. You don't have enough weapons. Everybody's talking
about who's gonna go get a wide receiver. The Chiefs
tysnically be a wide receiver because they lost a receiver Rice.
The Jets need another wide receiver because they still have enough.
This was the Bills need to go get a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
They let one leave, Dicks. You know, they had their
chance if they thought Diggs was the answer, or they
thought this team could be better with another wide receiver.
That is a lot to ask from Kean Komak. You're
asolutely right. That's a lot to ask for Mac Hollins.
That's a lot to ask from guys who have not
been a fifteen one, five hundred yard receiver, double digit
touchdown guy to saying when they need to come back,
Josh Allen needs some help. Here's what I would tell

(05:59):
Bills fas and I don't know if this is in.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's pretty clear his favorite is Khalil Shakir. Yeah, that's
his favorite. Your three dude out of Boise State. But
he ain't big dude. They beat him up last night.
He missed the big chunk of the game.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Here's what I would tell Bill guy, Here's what I
would tell his Bills fans about what you watch from
the Baltimore Ravens rush attack last night. And Raven fan,
who knows they able get our guy Bobby tross it
on in a few weeks to talk about what this
Raven team is. Think about it from back in June, July,
and August when you found out that the Raven offense
is gonna have Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. I'm I'm

(06:33):
serious when I say this. You have the most mobile
quarterback that has ever played in the NFL in the
history of the league. Stats will show it. Numbers will
show it, m VP stats will show you have the
most mobile quarterback who's ever played in the history of
the NFL. And you could have a discussion that not
only is Derrick Henry a Hall of Fame running back,
if you gave a running back of football and the

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history of football, who is the hardest running back to tackle?
Like Barry Sanders, your own betis Eric Dickerson, Larry Zanka,
like all those guys are in that discussion, Derrick Henry's
into the discussion. So I've got the most mobile quarterback ever.
I've got a Hall of Fame running back. I believe
the stat float went out there is that the offensive
line averages three hundred and thirty pounds up front. That

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is one of the greatest rushing attacks ever in the
history of football. Ever. So I don't know, and I
feel awful telling AFC fans seriously, I don't know if
there's anybody ever that could stop the Raven running attack
this season because it's that good. Maybe, as you said, Lavac,
the aerial game, the vertical game has got to get better.

(07:38):
Maybe you hope just Lamar Jackson in weather. But I
saw something historic last night with that Raven offense. It
was something I haven't seen before with that much speed
and power.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Gosh, they look good. Whoo all right?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
That that not encouraging for Bills fans already fans.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
That eighty seven yard touchdown for Derrick Henry to start
the game is the longest rush in Baltimore Raven's history. Okay,
think about that for a second. Jamal Lewis, ray Rice,
the Gus Buss, Willis McGahee Priest Holmes. How about Lamar

(08:16):
Jackson right, and and King Henry comes in and goes
off and like dude running away from dudes, running away
from little guys, just taking off. It is. The only
thing I will say is I did feel like they
held him back a little bit in the first couple
of games, because if you watched the last couple of

(08:39):
years in Tennessee, he's usually pretty beat up. By the
end of the year. You can be the biggest most
noun you even sledgehammers get dings like that, dude's gonna
get dinged. It's gonna happen over the course of a year.
Someone's gonna look for that head like someone's gonna want
to hit him so hard that they make Sports Center
for it.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
We ain't seen great running backs, and I want to
people get me twisted here, Like look, Eric Dickerson and
Barry Sanders and Tony Dorsett and Emitt Smith, all these
guys have been great running backs. But what makes that
raven combo so deadly is like Mike Vick, I believe
had a tail end of Warwick done was his best.
Maybe he got a little bit of Brian Westbrook with
his time for Philly. But mobility like that Steve Young,

(09:18):
I want to say he had Oh gosh, I'm gonna
blank on the Young running back. But Jerry Rice was
more of his target Durny. He was more of a
passing game. So Bills fans, you get a little bit
more on the outside if you can find one or
have a different impact. You hope that maybe some health
can get back. But that's just a bat. Baltimore is
gonna be tough all season long. If you can somehow
draw Baltimore in the AFC North where like Pittsburgh and

(09:41):
Baltimore have to play each other in an opening round
and then you just never play that team effort again.
You just like Kants to City of the Air. That's
your picture. Bills fans. You're not gonna beat them this season,
that's it. You're not gonna win in the rematch. You
don't want to face them in the postseason. That's bad
across the board. Maybe you get up seven enforced Lamar
because he's been bad in the postseat, No, no, don't

(10:03):
want that again. Bad.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
So so can the Bills do enough to meet Baltimore
again and beat him?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, no, they cannot be Baltimore no, avoid it.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think they can, but I just don't know. I
don't know how yet. And another reason, and like, well
that's a cop out. Sure it is, because I'm not
as good a coach as Sean McDermott or Joe Brady are.
Like Joe Brady is looking at the film from that thing,
and I think Joe Brady is one of the best
young minds in football right now. I think he's looking
at that the tape and going, oh, okay, I had that,

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I had this, we had that, and he's finding the
ways to beat that defense I did. I was impressed
and also worried that Josh Allen never went full hero
ball again. I expected hero ball. I think he's so
bought in though that he's playing the right way, so

(11:01):
you know, good for him, but it would have. I
was totally betting. I'm going here on ball rushing yards
is going on. I was all in on that, but no,
he man. I just it changed the way you look
at things again, because we sit here and we think
in three weeks, four weeks into the season, we know
what the hell we're talking about. We have no idea.

(11:21):
The Ravens lost to the Chiefs. They should have beat him.
They had a ten point lead against the Raiders. Should
have beat him. They beat the Cowboys, and now they
just annihilated the Bills. They're at the Bengals on October sixth.
I mean, it's you gotta don't time the number. You
gotta line on that. I get it, all right.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
It's at Cincinnati, yes, sir, at Cincinnati Baltimore after destroying Buffalo.
For I, I bet that's a three point game, maybe
three and a half. I would Cincinnati's at home, though, gosh,
I bet the Ravens are only a three point favorite
in that game.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's what it opened. Two and a half. Now look
at that, Look at that, and remember the Bengals did
just win a game. Yea. So now everybody's on on
the Bengals path here that not only win the game,
they like Jamar Chase looked right again. You know that
it's Carolina. But Carolina is just annihilated. They just made
the Raiders look complete the pedestrian. They in between two

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monster wins for the Raiders, they made the Raiders look
complete the pedestrian. So that's that's that's something. But I
just man, you go out there and you stop the
Bengals too, who know you? Who really really know you?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Then what I'm setting up for a melt down on Tuesday.
And I I know we let off talking about David Hellman,
but I just thought, like, with that schedule you laid
out there, I'm like, okay, you know what, Baltimore would
kill Kansasity. Nope, they played each other. Kansasity beat him?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
What barely?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
What do you mean they're four and oh? Well you
know what exactly? Like, well, Kansas City can't be the
best team. Yeah, well they keep winning, oh man.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, but they keep losing. Now now all would Brown
and Rashid Rice gone?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
It feels gosh, it's the Patriots storyline comes up again
here with the Chiefs in twenty twenty four of if
they weren't the Chiefs, people would look at the four
and oh Chiefs and say that's the biggest imposter, Like
if that team, well, just saw the Cardinals out there,
because he destroyed me this weekend. If the Cardinals did
what the Chiefs are doing right now, are four and oh,

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everyone across the country'd say they're imposters like the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
There are frauds today. I mean, I agree with him,
but he called them frauds today.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's odd that show was on today, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I thought that Chris Knty was saying that, wasn't it weird?
I usually don't hear his voice in the morning either.
I didn't even I saw it on Twitter. Oh, is
that what it was?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I don't listen to other radio stations. There's other radio stations.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Somebody forget to hit a button over there. Oh is
that usually here an Islander goalie talking about those things?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
That's like, that's a good show.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
It is, but it's when it airs. When it airs.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Wow, I didn't know that. I didn't even know. No,
I saw it on Twitter. I heard him saying on Twitter. Okay, yeah,
I don't dude. I if I'm up that early, I'm
listening to either you know whatever nonsense is coming from us?
Was it two pros and a cup of Joe or
something like that? And then Boomer and Geo. I'll check
out sometimes because I think that's that's fun. But a

(14:20):
lot of what I just I just I read, I
read the interwebs.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I just listen to us on a loop, over and
over and over again. There's nothing but Leavak and guys.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I have never listened to a second of the show
unless someone said, what you know plays it back for me?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, because I did? True, Yeah I didn't. Why would
I listen to it. I'm like, I really listened to this.
I'm like Robin Shabotsky from How I Met Your Mother.
You want to go to the mall, not that, not that.
I get under the covers and just start playing Lavak
and Gods out loud and stare at myself and I
need some alone time as they listen to my hot takes.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I guess sometimes I hear I I'll rehear the the
stuff about the league, just because people will make sure
I didn't say what I'm not supposed to say. But no, I,
like you said, I just we already did it. It's leading,
it's gone, it's in the ether.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's like painting a picture Lavac. Sometimes you just paint
a portrait and you leave it up your house, like, wow,
I made that. Got great that once. You don't feel
that way after some shows. I'm not a true artist.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No, I can't paint. I broke my hands so many times.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I have a story about pinions later in the show.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Even painting later in this hour. Do you got a
paint sip? Make the wife drive? I was horrified by
a photo. Oh really, I will get to that later.
Maybe you did see a photo of me? All right,
well yeah, I don't know. Man, listen, let's look like this.
I don't know that I've ever been this confused about
a football season, this this deep into football season before.

(15:48):
Usually by now I feel like I'm starting get a
handle on who the who the people are. There's always
like surprise ones. Like again, last year, nobody thought Cleveland
with Joe Flacco was gonna take off and do work.
But like this is this year makes no sense and
I'm here for it. We gotta get better. We gotta
get better phase versus reality.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's why it's the best, like really seriously, like not
even d That's why the NFL is the best because
of the chaos. Anybody can weak the game's vikings. I
thought the Viking the Vikings had a first round quarterback
get injured. Now they have Sam Darnald. Who seriously, if
someone said, I think Sam Donald's the MVP of the league,
but anyway, by the way, I think so, I would
I would seriously say Sam Darnald's the MVP after the

(16:29):
Allen performance, and Allen's been great. But if someone walked
in and said, after September of twenty twenty four, the
MVP of the NFL will be Sam Darnald, you'd be like,
get out, go right down here, we need you need help.
Are you okay? What have you been drinking? What have
you been Seriously that that sounds But again, if you're
a Viking fan, if you're a fan, we're gonna talk
about the Titans and Dolphins and the and the Monday

(16:50):
football games coming up here. But that gives you hope,
Like I can be awful the team I'm rooting for,
and then all of a sudden my fandom turns up
because my team got good that fast.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Last second. This is my favorite. What if so far
of the season. What if Sam Donald Key's playing like this?
What do the Vikings do?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
JJ McCarthy gets that tushy nice and warm, that'd be
sitting on the bench.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, trade him? Yeah? Who JJ McCarthy, Now you know,
lock Sam Donald in long term? Trade JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
The problem would be the affordability of the contract, right,
Like Donald will hit free, Like Donald's made himself a
ton of money Donald's gonna get a fat deal from somebody.
How far can he take this team? It feels very
much like the Case Keenum thing from a few years ago,
where Case Keenum at that point was younger in his career. Oh,
Case Keenum almost got him to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Hold on Sam Donald, twenty seven years old. He's on
a one year, ten million dollar Actually sorry, yeah, it's
a one year, ten million dollar contract. He's free agent
at the end of the year. So if he plays
like the rest of the season, you let him leave.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I would say that they have they've They've made their
bed and they're gonna have to lay in it. I
unless they're gonna give a Baker Mayfield deal. But Kyle
Trask wasn't JJ McCarthy, Like they gave up a bunch
of picks for this. It feels like someone is going
to outbid the Vikings for the services of Sam Darnold.
Who that might be Tennessee Carolina the Rams. I would say,

(18:27):
no matter how far he goes, I just have zero
examples of a first round quarterback being drafted by a
team and then never getting the opportunity to play because
the other guy they signed was better than them. Hurt
right away. Trey Lance is a great one. Trey Lance

(18:47):
is a great example. Gosh, he must have been so bad.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I'm saying twenty seven year olds, So twenty eight
year old next year. Trey Lance did play, but he's stuck.
He did get me played. JJ McCarthy signed a four year,
twenty one, twenty eight five million dollar deal, so he's
got that fifth year option. If if Sam Donald is
this for the rest of the year, you let him leave.

(19:16):
You can't afford him. That's the problem that Vikings can't
afford him. There's no way they're gonna pay JJ McCarthy's
salary and then Sam donald's because whmeever, JJ McCarthy's salary,
it extends over time. Yeah, so like you get there's
time that you could have both.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
The closest you'd get to this and it's not even
a very good example, because one's far more of a
vendor and far more accomplished would be Rodgers in Love.
Like you would eventually think Rogers would have to leave
because you've got the first round draft pick was not playing,
And eventually he did leave, But before he left, he
signed the richest contract in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
And then he left. You know what, I don't I
don't think you. I don't think you have to worry
about this. Not if JJ McCarthy's contracts what got you
has you worried? You don't have to worry because he's
a five million dollars, six million dollars and then seven
million dollar cap hit for the next three years. So
you could sign Donald to another two year deal.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
So McCarthy's just gonna sit on the bench for four years,
or you trade him.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I don't think. I just how do you let a
bird in the hand go for a guy that he
hasn't even had a chance to play for you in
any way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
If McCarthy gets traded, you wasted the pick. Now just
as you get back, I would say you traded up
to get him he never played. Now here's the thing, though,
you can be right both ways. Like you could say
I wasted a pick on JJ McCarthy. We get to
a Super Bowl, like, you know what, we got it wrong.
But guess what we're doing. We're playing in New Orleans
this year because Sam Donald, Zacha, you.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Didn't give up as much as Sam Fran did to
get Trey Lance and nobody cares because Rock Party's your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You haven't paid him yet either though, no, because you
haven't able to.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
But Sam Donald's you quarterback, and you're winning football games,
and all right, I imagine this. You let Sam Donald walk,
he signs with the Raiders. Whoever? Wait, who would be
the worst? The Raiders?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, the Raiders gonna go.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I'm trying to think who who would really tick? Titans, Titans,
the Raiders, whoever? And then they lighted up and they
keep going and JJ McCarthy's a dud. That's the biggest
waste of a first pick right there.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
This has happened in the league, right Baker, You think
Browns fans wouldn't want Baker Mayfield back right now? After
how Deshaun Watson's playing. I mean, that's Panther fan. Panther
you guys.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Actually, Deshaun Watson wasn't terrible against the Raiders. It wasn't great,
it wasn't great. He was okay, Sam Donald, he's not
why they lost, Like Panther fing you just did this.
The Panthers got Sam Donald, and they would love Sam
Donald back. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's a mix of everything.
I would be surprised. I would be surprised if JJ
McCarthy ever moves on from Minnesota. M hmm, interesting, saying

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twenty seven year old guns later, it's working, it's coming together.
I think maybe it should come out of the coach.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But he's an awesome coach. He's great. I underestimated how
good he was.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
All right, speaking of coaches, who's going to be the
defining factor in Tonight's one of the night football games
that is next? It is Lavack and Gaze in this
third hour on Fox Sports Radio ninety five, nine and
nine eighty.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's Lavack and guzz on the voice of the Capitol
Regions sports fan Fox Sports ninety five to nine and
nine eighty.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Pretty great the weekend of football, but it ain't over yet.
This is one of those double header Monday nights as
Tennessee Titans travel to Miami to take on the Dolphins
and the Seattle Seahawks are headed to Detroit to take
on the Lions. Two games, and I am completely befuddled
and confused by both. If you had at the beginning
of the year, before the season started, I was a big,

(22:49):
big fan of what Miami was goinging able to do.
And what Detroit was gonna be able to do, and I
thought Seattle and Tennessee were gonna suck. I might be
right about Tennessee, but after that, I don't think I've
been writing about any of this. I don't know. Detroit
has completely lost their composure. They don't seem to be
anything close to what they normally what I expected them
to be. Miami lost Tua, which that makes sense that

(23:10):
you wouldn't be what you what I thought you were
gonna be. But Seattle looks like a world beater. At Tennessee,
they've shown glimpses of being an NFL team, but they've
shown a lot more glimpses of being a joke.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, let me let me do Seattle in Detroit first here,
because that one is almost harder to figure out. Because
of you could we can just compare them, like, Okay,
if I told you Gino Smith would be playing better
than Jared Goff right now, right if I told you
that the running back who's a backup would be more
impactful for the Seahawks and the Lions, I would say

(23:42):
that Montgomery has not been as impactful as Zach Sharboney.
Now Charbone has benefited from the Kenneth Walker the third injury,
but sharbone has been better this season. The wide receivers
DK Medcal's been pretty good. Saint Brown was so good
in twenty twenty three. And here's our favorite game. We've
been playing it since August and we're not gonna judge
you if you don't know the answer yet. The Seattle
Seahawks have an opportunity tonight to go four to o.

(24:04):
Do you know their head coach's name? You have won
the award we called it the Brandon Staley Award from
four years ago of there's always one head coach. You
might not be quite sure of who it is. That
head coach could be four and o tonight.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
McDonald.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Is it still McDonald? Yes, I believe it. I don't
think it's old McDonald or the farmer. I think his
first name could be Mike. That's where the Seahawks are
after Pete Carroll. They could be four and oh with
Gino Smith the backup running back, and we're wondering what
the coach's name is. What a weird world we're living in.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
And then well, I mean in the other game Tennessee,
how many people know which shit ahead it is you know.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I mean, I mean, come on, isn't it Brian Callahan?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, same thing.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
But he was in The Hangover that he does a
podcast with a Santino character. But you no love for
cousin Edti. That's him? Is it cousin Eddi from the Hangover?
That's the same guy?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's him. I don't know
love for Couzinetti. I'm lost, You've lost me, You've lost confusing. Yeah,
now I'm gone. I am out back.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
In Tennessee, Miami. Back to Tennessee, Miami, Tennessee Miami. That
matchup tonight, and you could look at the Dolphins. We
know the impact of two. It almost seems like timing
routes for Tua and what's going on there with McDaniel's
Dolphins for the Titans. I didn't think this is the
way I was gonna view this, But because a lot
of the conversations we had today, I know, quarterbacks always
the answer, It's always the answer. But a classic sports

(25:32):
talk radio conversation, I know you and I have had
it because I love doing this one most doubtstanding versus
most valuable. If you now want to put a J.
Brown in a conversation as the most valuable player in
the NFL. He's got some nice examples. He's got the
Philadelphia Eagles this past weekend when he was hurt and
they had nothing going on offense, and Buccaneers moved to

(25:54):
three and one and the entire Titan franchise. But Titans
were a number one seed in the AFC playoffs less
than five years ago. And we remember the moment it
happened on Draft Tame. Remember they had the camera right
on Mike Rabel's face when they traded away AJ Brown
to Philly. And Rabel really got fired in Tennessee, according
to local reports, because all he wanted was more say

(26:16):
in roster moves, and they told him no, and then
they fired him. AJ Brown leaves Tennessee. They stink. AJ
Brown doesn't play for Philly. They stink, So AJ Brown,
this is the AJ Brown Bowl. You've showing how valuable
you've been post Tennessee because they're they're in the conversation.
I watched Carolina play Tennessee. If they get beat tonight,
aren't they the worst team in the NFL. They're in

(26:37):
that conversation.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
But listen, DeAndre Hopkins, what's left of them, Calvin Ridley, like,
those are those are good? Those are good offensive weapons.
The reason that I have a problem with Aj Brown
being the most valuable player in the NFL is the
other side of this game, because Tyreek Hill should be
in that argument, except for the fact that if the

(27:00):
wide receiver on your team is the most valuable player
on your team, what happens when the dude who throws
in the ball is in there? Because like, that's that's
where I'm at, Like Will Levin, Will Levis and Mason
Rudolph are now throwing the ball. Does Aj Brown turn
the Titans around?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I probably should mentioned we both should probably mention that
probably after last night's game, Derek Henry should be in
that conversation for Tennessee if we know you weren't gonna
pay him, and I know the conversation is, maybe Henry
could have gave him a ton of money. Maybe you
should have tried harder, because man, you want to help
out Will Levis and whoever's throwing the football having that
in the backfield, an all time great, a Hall of

(27:37):
Famer in the discussion from high school to college of
the pros, one of the greats. Ever, maybe the last
great running back we're going to see for a long time. Yeah,
that hurt too.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I mean, hmm, I have I have trouble. Yeah, I
think quarterback, whoever your quarterback is. That's like Pat Mahomes
is the most valuable player in the NFL. You look
at I mean, look at look at now. They lost
for Sheiver, right, do you see the I don't know
if it hit your algorithm too, at least is at
least at least your she Rice season ended doing what

(28:09):
he loves, ending a drive with a horrible collision. Oh man, Yeah,
people are going they're firing Internet undefeated, never laws, never laws.
I yeah, so it's always gonna be a quarterback for me,
like it the because there was a part of me
too that would I want to say Max Crosby. The

(28:32):
Raiders somehow won yesterday without Max Crosby, and I expected
to see him on the sideline going nuts. I don't
see the camera him once.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm glad you said the Raiders, because if you're a
Raider fan like Lavak, if you're a Panther fan, if
you're a Rams fan, I think it's in the discussion now.
The impact of this game affects you because Tennessee will
be a team if you think they're gonna stink this season,
that's in the mix for a quarterback in the upcoming draft,
whether it's Viewers or Beck or should Door Sanders. Giants

(28:58):
fan like, this is a team that will draft the
quarterback when they can get a quarterback. They believe it's
Levis's fault. There's a lot more to the Titans. We
just noted two of them, letting all pro players walk
out and firing a coach we all thought was pretty good.
That's the more you know. David Tepper gets the criticism
because of his history, but Titans management organization skill. How
does net Here's one? How is Nashville not gotten a

(29:20):
super Bowl yet? You've gone to Nashville that seems like
a city that should be in play. They got draft,
they've had big events. That seems like an awesome place
to have a super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I don't know if they have enough hotels Nashville.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You would think with all the Bachelor, the Red parties,
they had to have built some along the line.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, with fans, fast and everything. I don't because so Jacksonville.
When Jacksonville got the Super Bowl, they had to bring
cruise ships in because there was enough hotels. I don't
know if Nashville has enough infrastruction. Nashville is like when
people say it's the biggest little city in the world,
they're not lying, like you. It's a It's like a
very walkable strip of amazing things. You don't have to

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go far.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I should also say that that's probably not a reflection
of the Titans ownership group. That's more of a reflection
of the politicians and city members and stuff. But more so,
we know the impact that this could have for our
stadium city. Things like that I would take. I'll stick
by my picks for the hat on Friday Show. I'll
stick by the Dolphins tonight. I'll stick by the Seahawks
to cover tonight. I think the Lions win, Seahawks cover.

(30:23):
I think the Dolphins win. I hope both games are competitive,
because we had pretty good games last week on the
Monday into football games. I know Buffalo smoked Jacksonville and
Washington Cincinna was more competitive. Let's hope for two close
games tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
So here's here's where. Here's where Ibat, I very much,
very much think you're correct. I think that Seattle's and
Detroit are It's like a field goal game. I think
they can score with each other. Did you see Rex
Tryde last night talking about Geno Smith? He goes, I
love him. He hates me, but I love him.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I'm like, oh my god, I love Rex Ryuch fan
of hiss.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, I mean I do. There's there comes a point
where you're like, you look at these guys and like
some of them like Rex right, and realized, what are
you gonna do? What are you gonna do? I said
nice things about you, tough.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Like what earlier this month? They're like, Rex, can you
describe the Cowboys defense? And two words garbage? Well that's
the one word, Rex, hot garbage. Here's here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm I'm with you. I think I think that's the
breakdown for the Seattle Detroit game. It's gonna be a
good game. It's gonna be like a field goal trying
stide late in the fourth quarter. Here's here's the problem.
Hot garbage. Tennessee versus Miami and now Brian Callahan, Yes,

(31:47):
his dad is Bill, his dad is When I have
ANATA against.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yes, there we go.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I have to believe that Mike McDaniel can out coach
Brian Callahan. I have to believe that. But now I
have to ask myself a question. Has Brian Callahan and
his staff had enough time with Will Levis to put
together a game plan that won't suck? And conversely, is

(32:15):
Tyler Huntley going to be able to do the same
thing for Miami? Because it's Tyler Hunley, It's not even
Simon Scylar Thompson. This week Snoop Snoop Huntley the artist
formerly knows Tyler Huntley?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
What do we call him? Do we call him Snoop
on this show?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Tom? Tyler him Snoop? I I just we know that
he is a run first guy. He's got a big arm.
I feel like he get the ball in front of
Tyreek Hill a couple times. Miami is Miami, Miami the planet?
I think Miami's the play tonight. I know we did
the Pick of the Day and all that stuff, but
like this is this is, this is what my brain

(32:50):
went through to get where we got to.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I Okay, I've said my picks, but I want to
go back to that Play of the Day. You know what,
I don't think, Gosh. I texted you on Sunday morning.
I had the best two dollars seventy two cent bet
I've ever fired off and I went over three worry
about I can't I can't shake Jesse's tweet. I can't
shake Jesse's message about what if we just did a
prop bet where in no games any touchdowns are scored

(33:16):
and you bet ten dollars to win four grand four
hundred to one tonight, bet no touchdowns, no touchdown in
either game. No, because the lines of the Seahawks are
going to score. Kenny Skywalker the third is back? All right, half?
Then fine, no touchdowns tonight.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
In the Tennessee Miami game. Yeah, is that a thing?
Can we do that? Yes? I'm not a pose.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Okay, all right, ride with if you want.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Then did you see did you see my parlay?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yes? I did. I like how that paid off. You
know what, I have no issues with your parlay. I
like to payoff, especially seven to one. Basically I'm good
with that.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
It's like six point nine to one. Nice. Yeah, I
I I'm very These these just don't make sense. They
just don't like I mean, let's be again, we both
agree to the one. I still don't think it makes sense,
like this is gonna be a fun night a football
because I don't know what's gonna happen. This is one
of those ones where like if you start to see

(34:11):
a you know, a pattern just develop. Maybe you betting
how each drive is gonna end or something like that.
I just I look at it's such a different world
than we thought it was gonna be. I mean, we
it's just such a such a different different world, all right,
So what so what we're both we're on the same
page here, which we have been the last couple of
standalone games we have.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I will offer this up. I'll stick with my picks
from a few minutes ago, but I'll say this and
I'm already looking forward to Week five. Giant fans, Giants
play the Seahawks in Week five. I've seen some early lines.
I've seen that number floating around six and a half.
If the Seahawks stay healthy. You don't want to be
weird about rooting for injuries, never want to do that.

(34:52):
But that's actually a decent matchup for New York in
Week five, coming up against Seattle. Seattle in a short
week defense look strong for the Giants. Be careful on
that one. Giants are starting to become one of my
favorite plays in week five. If that line sits around
six and a half, I think it's a really nice
A lot can change tonight. But Giant fan, I think

(35:13):
you should be encouraged about some things you might see
out of the Seahawks where you could potentially pull an
up set in week five.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I already looked at that. Nothing tells you that God
doesn't give two poops about Monday Night football this week,
then like, hey, what about next week? Already, Like, I mean,
that's that's because they're kind of there. I'm kind of there,
like I'm not like especially to the fact that I
had my best week of Fantasy Versus Reality and it

(35:44):
was two and two. It's five hundred. I struggled for
a five hundred week.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Technically I tied for my best week as well this week.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
So you did tie for your best week and your
worst week. What's your record? Rong twel This is an
historic run. I'm on right now, and I'm four or nine,
four or nine. It's not good either though. Neither one
of us is doing good. Like the reality of Fantasy
versus Reality.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Is we suck if someone has been taking our bets
and wagering against them. You're welcome. You're welcome. Either be
really good or really bad. We're gonna be really good
really soon, is what I tell myself.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Do you play any Who are your fantasy football players
that you still play tonight? And these see wonderful games?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Calvin Ridley, if you were smart, you probably stream the
Titan defense. Some people have done that. Ridley is worth
a play. I mean, you can't bench Tyreek or Waddle
quite yet. You haven't hit that status. I'd bench Waddle, okay.
I mean if you you don't even know, you don't
know who Huntley's gonna sync up with either. Yeah, I
just I have to believe at some point Tyreek hills

(36:51):
alone down the field. I would say, if you're in
a league smaller than ten, I always think of twelve
in my head. But if you're twelve fourteen, you probably
aren't that pot spot yet for Wattle. Ask for the
other game. I mean, you still got some options in
the other game. Charbonnay has been a really good DK
medcast's been really good. You can never probably bench Saint Bratt.
There's the Dolphin Titan one. It's probably Ridley in the
Titan defense in Hill and Waddle, so less than five. Wow,

(37:13):
that's not a great compliment.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
No, not a great knight for FASB. Well, so if
you're Lee, if you're this week's games are dependent upon
big outings tonight. Hopefully you got the defenses. Hopefully all right? Uh,
coming up, We're gonna the dump. Gazz has said it's
it's one of the more confusing dumps he's ever been
a part of.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh, Lovak, I got some stuff for you. I got
some stuff involved in my family, my wonderful sister in laws.
In a little fight. I fight's always too strong, but
a discussion, a back and forth. It started up on
the weekend on social media. Some Capital reis and sports
fans with me.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
The fact that you didn't call it you normally call it.
I'm I'm here for it. I want to hear all
of it. It's coming up next right here, Levet Gaz
Fox Sports Radio ninety five, nine and nine eighty.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's Lovak and Guz on the Voice of the Capitol
Regions Sports Fan Fox Sports ninety five, nine and nine eighty.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Live of the GT Toys the studio that's toys with
a Z. By the way, GT Toys, listen, it's September.
When am I gonna come over and look at these
plows on a TVs? You know I want one? Just
I don't know what to do, just saying I'll cry
if I have to help a brother out, you know, right, guy, right,

(38:26):
that's right.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Look, I'd like to go first here in the dump.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Okay, I mean, listen, there's a line you know sometimes
when you share a bathroom.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I mean, what, There's a lot that's happened. You know,
I'm gonna let you choose. I'd like to tell both
stories if I can, and I let you, I.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Would choose you to tell both stories?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Then which one would you like me to lead off?
With the hardcore sports talk take? I found myself in
in controversy over the weekend with or what happened involving
my sister in laws.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Listen, come on, you know it's sistern laws. Okay, I mean,
come on, I know your audience. Dude, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So here's what happened. My sister in law moved over
the weekend. She's got a new apartment, a lot of
her stuff. Is this the sister in law that's gravely
intended to me? No? No, it's another one. It's another one. Actually,
how many are there? There are a lot. So we
were helping her move this weekend. Two things happen along
the move, and this is one of these moments. Hopefully
when it happens to you listening in your life, these

(39:19):
are great things, like I can't believe this is the
life I live. Like, hopefully you're having that. Maybe you're
a parent, a grandparent. Maybe you love your career, you
love your relationship. Maybe that's when you have those moments,
not like I had over the weekend of this is
now my life. Here was story number one. So she's
get her car fixed and she's having some like she's moving.
So I'm in the house with the boys. My youngest

(39:41):
West is sleeping. I'm inside with Rax. We just got
done plane. Outside I notice outside in my driveway two
strange men. And now by the word strange, I don't
mean they look strange. I mean I've never met these
men in my life.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
But they also look strange. No, they look fine, Okay,
all right. One is working on her car, the other
one is helping her move. And I thought to myself, Okay,
how am I going to handle this situation? Do I
go outside and introduce myself. I don't know who these
people are, but she clearly has help. Do I help them?

(40:17):
But she hasn't asked me for help. I do have
a four year old?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Do is you can go? I don't know how to approach.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Hold on, hold on, see this is why you have
You should have called me because I'm hoping you did
this the right way. So let me get this straight.
She has a she has a crew, a crew she
has she has a automobile repair yep, and someone help
her move?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yes, So you're not asked to help move at this point. No,
you're not.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Asked to help fix a car, which I would imagine
no one would ever ask you to fix a car.
You go about your business, dude, that's jackpot time right there.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I asked, Hey, who's that? Her response my friends, and
I'm like, okay, I'm I'm not your dad and you're
not a teenager. I'm not gonna follow up. I really
don't care at this point. That's exactly right, Levak. I
went back to my bid business, played with my son,
had fun, didn't care what was happening. Car was fixed.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
You gotta be honest.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Don't like her answer?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
No, you know? Oh your friends in my house. You know.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's why she's an adult though she's not twelve. Yeah,
she's in your house. Not in about an hour.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
She won't be in there, not until I get you
you know, no, no, anyways, get it over, we get
her out.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Okay, and technically they're not in my house.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
You know there's.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I thought. So, yeah, he never came in.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
All right? Even better?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Okay, so we had strangers at one point. They didn't
cause a ruckus. There was no issues, no problems. They
did their thing. Most people, if you just saw it
from outside, do you think they were movers? Okay, I
don't know how you have made that happen. Not my business,
No longer my business. That was number one.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
How much better life if you were a hot chick?
That's what it is. You know.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
She said that to me later, she said, this is
a benefit of being a girl. I can have people
in my apartment complex help me move. So that's what
I figured out lately, that those are her neighbors. You're like,
how we're moving the neighbors. Yeah, so she didn't even
know these dudes yet.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
So here's what happens, right, Attractive female walks, Oh my god,
I'm moving in all the way. That's great. Yeah, I
just you know, I gotta find something to help me move.
I'll help you move back, this dude said. He's like,
I'm about to date this girl, ding ding ding. And
then she's talking to another one. Oh, you have a
nice car. Oh yeah, what do you drive? Well, it's
broken down right now. I fixed cars. I'll fix your car.

(42:33):
He's thinking, I'm dating this girl. They both show up
at your house to help her out. Oh, they're probably
look at each other and like, Wow, we're gonna be
a weird thrupple. I don't knock the hustle I don't
knock the hustle from the guys. Do the guys why
they thought they were They thought they played.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
They got played.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
They got played, they got play. They played themselves directly
into a little game called the friend zone.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
That's what they did.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
But hey, you know what, good for her and good
for you and I have to do the work. I
mean that's the thing that was step one. Okay, step
two and again, what life? Where is? Where is the wife?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
At this point the wife, Uh, she was grabbing bins
like she Oh she went to the store. Now she
went to the store. She went to the grocery store
at one point, and then there were a bunch of bins.
She went to her other sister's place to help her
grab bins because she wasn't gonna move because she's brightnant rightfully,
so she doesn't have to do that. Uh, here's the
second part of this. Okay. So you know, when you're

(43:28):
helping somebody move, whether it be a friend of family
members in law, you're gonna find something weird. You're gonna
find something weird. Oh and I found something weird, real weird.
So we have like a sun room at my house.
So I noticed there was a painting, a painting, and
I said to her, I said, who pated this picture?

(43:48):
It was of her? It was definitely of her. I'm like, hey,
pay me like your French girls.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Jack and I.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Would say the painting and I told her this, I'm like,
probably not a painting you would want around kid. It's
let's say there was less clothes on her than I
thought there should be.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
What all right? When you say less clothes, you know
you are you are the father of Yeah, but like
like nighty stuff like no boojoir, no just neckd noneckd no,
nowhere close to the kids.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Like they would know, they would never find. But like,
just see, you have.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
To in your brain. You know what if what if
a shielding panel falls out and they see it? Right?
Like you, Yeah, you have to do it right.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
So I go to protection model and it's only the
waiste up. So I'm like, okay, I'm like, where did
this painting come from? And I had to tell her,
I'm like, what is this painting of her? Immediate response,
that's not mine and it's not me, Like okay, who
else would it be? My wife? It's not me? So
I'm like, you know what, Okay, that's like all right,

(44:51):
I'll take it. Then this is where does this is
where it's weirder?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
They we're not weird yet. No. Here you are staring
at an artist rendition of the upper torso of your
sister in law potentially or a stranger if she's telling
the truth, which way, I don't know her well enough
to know she's not telling the truth. And now we're
about to get weird. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
So she's she claims it's not of her and it's
not her painting. So I said, okay, it's not my
wife's painting. It's not your painting. It's not your other
sister who lives in albody's painting.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Wait, so she doesn't even know where it came from.
In this story, that's.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
What she's claiming, where a naked picture of herself is
not of her. Okay, so she claims it's not her.
There's only one suspect left, and that's the one who
just moved albody from Las Vegas's.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I could see somebody, so I go trying to paint.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I go, is this is this yours? She goes, oh, man,
where'd you guys find that that is mine? What? What?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
What? It is?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Of you?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
So she was telling the truth. The person who's moving
found a picture of someone who looked like her in
our spot, and it wasn't of her, It was of you,
and you at some point during your move thought, I
gotta keep this picture of me? And I said, who
painted this? She said, oh, some guy I knew. I
go of you? She goes, I don't think it really

(46:07):
looks like me that much? Like who do you think
it looks like?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Oh sister, She's like, I.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Really care about that painting. I go that it's been
here for months. So during my Moory. I found a
picture of my sister, not a picture, a painting. I'm
talking like museum style painting another sister in law while
the other one was moving.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
The painting is like a Victorian error, like phone phone hack.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
What world am I living in that there's multiple paintings?
So sister laws at my house?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
But is this how is this? Is this how you
traded like those pictures back in like Victorian times.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
It looks like a Victorian picture, it does it does?
It looks like a mix between like Vincent van Gull.
It's like a beautiful not even like some stick figure,
like some guy who's an artist did this.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I never had seen it again, I had gone months.
I'm you really would have had to be moving somebody
and dig deep into a spot to find a massive portrait,
almost portrait like level photo. Nobody moved it. She's like,
I don't know what I'm gonna do with it. I'm like,
I'm not gonna stay here, not going to stay here.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
This is why I wish we had an office here,
because I would hang out in the office.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I will bring it to you tomorrow if you remind me.
I have to see this port now. I don't want
to obviously share it on social media. I don'self her.
I don't want I don't want to see it. I mean,
I just see it, but I don't want to see it.
You do, you don't want?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
No, I know because, like you know, I feel like
she and I have kind of we've crossed into friends.
We're friends now. I think she's not just She's not
just that hot chick that's at your house once in
a while being painted, Yeah, being painted. I don't want
to see it, but it would be hysterical to hang
it up somewhere random and not tell people what it is,
not even talking, don't reference it. It's not there. Like if we,

(47:52):
like maybe at my office, especially if we.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Did in my office at the arena, the players would
be like, you can have this, I don't want it
is a talking piece. Could you imagine moving one of
your relatives and during the move you found a portrait.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Of that I joke about you being a Sasquatch, a
portrait of them. I'm the good looking one in my family. Okay,
that's that's what you're gonna worry about there. Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I hope my dad's listening, because he's gonna be like,
hide the photo, but can you send it to me?
How big is this portrait? He's gonna ask for that
photo later. That's a lot of people from Salve are
gonna ask for that photo too. Maybe I'll send it.
That's no, you can't, all right, you can't. Well, it's
a public photo. Is a public photo, public public face?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
How's in public?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Didn't do that great way, Adrian this week? That's my
new only fans if anyone wants it, and you'll reply,
didn't do great. Here's the serious story that I'm sorry
and taking up the whole ump here. Love that, but
I have to admit this is usually a you thing.
I would say in the history of this show when
it comes to social media, whether it be Facebook x, Twitter, Instagram,

(48:56):
when we engage, which you should at social media it's
supposed so I would say you have more. I don't
think arguments is right. I would say you go have
more back and forth on social media than I do.
Sometimes I know something and get out of the way.
Oh yeah, better engaging in posts.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I don't think you have to be careful about the
way you're speaking. Yeah, I'll fight with people.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I don't think it was a fight but I got
a lot of traction on a post and maybe you'll
have the same take I did. Here's a cut from
College Game Day this past week involving Kirk Herbstreet and
Nick Saban talking to about players in control in the
nil era.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Passion that we have for college football all over this
country and everywhere we go. It's too important not to
have a system that works for the players and works
for the competitive spirit of the game.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Progress speak, and I think we've said it enough and enough.
The players were all for them getting paid, but we're
not all for the players having all the control. I
think we went from one extreme where the players didn't
have a lot of control to now the players having
all the control.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
There needs to be some accountability for the players.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
I feel like some players select college, which to me
is a forty year decisions. Your twins just went to
the University of Michigan and Arbor. That's a huge decision
for them academically and connections and where they're going in
their futures. I feel like we're teaching these kids it's
almost like a seven on seven all star team, and
you go here, you go here, you go here, and
they're missing out on what those relationships can be. NFL

(50:21):
is great, but once that's done, you need somewhere to
have as a home, and these guys aren't. They're not
going to have a home because they're bouncing around too much.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Does that quote bother you? Like it bothered me? Do
you even know why that might bother me?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
That quote? Hey? Is it when her street went like
power to the power to your friend black woman preach?
You're like, what did he say? I don't even I
don't know. He was like he's like speak on you know,
like that that kind of got to me.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
That is not the part that bothered me.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That's got nearly four million views by the way on
social media. Here's what bothered me about that cut, and
I engage with a lot of people on social media
about it. I appreciate everybody doing it and thank you.
Also heads up to our guy nineties kid who figured
out I was texting you about this on a Friday.
Everyone could have replied to my tweets now again, I
don't know what I did you it was Andrew Champagne.
Everyone can reply and it's actually helped significance.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Able to get that right right away.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
He learned a lesson. Here's what I wrote again, Kirk Kurbstreet,
you just heard he's all for the players getting paid,
but not for all the players having all the control.
I tweeted this out Lovac. The irony of this clip
is laughable, said by Kirk Kurbstreet, who controls his career
decisions by doing games on both ESPN and Amazon, Who

(51:35):
is sitting next to a coach who controlled how his
legendary coaching career would end city next to a guy
who controls his own content and created an incredible show
in business by doing it. The irony of well, we
don't want all the players to have all the control
by Nick Saban, Kirk Kurbstreet and Pat McAfee. By the way,

(51:55):
in front of a crowd on a seven hour pregame show,
in front of a game they spent three billion.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Dollars on to pay. That's what bothered me about that quote.
I definitely you have a point. You definitely have a point.
My issue is and and there is there's a point
where he kind of says it, and I'm just so
proud of you for pulling audio. I'm not gonna ask
you to bring it back. Like like there are repercussions
to these decisions, like Pat McAfee has faced repercussions for

(52:26):
taking his going out on his own repeated times, like
you know, he's, he's, he's maybe he's grown faster, but
it's been with more you know, he's been more liable
to it and things like that, and you know, so
on and so forth. There's repercussions that these guys aren't
facing right now jumping around. You know this as well
as anybody. When you're hiring somebody and you look at
the resume and they got sixty jobs in the last

(52:49):
two years, that's a red flag. So like, if I'm
an NFL team, hey, I know that they can't do that.
But at the same time, what's to stop this kid from,
you know, holding out in two years even though he's
supposed to wait three. What's to stop this kid from
demanding a trade every fifteen minutes because that's the way,
that's what life has taught them. Now you can do

(53:11):
whatever you want. I'm I'm with it on that level.
I think there needs to be more or lessons of
repercussion because real life doesn't work that way. But at
the same time, I definitely see the irony of what
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I think you've sided with a lot of people on
social media on this one. I want to give love
to nineties kid and fan of the Star war with
a nineties kid first. In my opinion, they're pulling the
mask off and revealing the fact that college sports is
actually just minor leagues with an attachment to a university
with a built in fan base. The players just don't
care about the university. They just want to get paid.
Fan of the star Row, I don't know about that take, guys.
I think we did go from one extreme to the next.

(53:44):
These are nineteen year old kids playing a game for
a university that you're comparing to grown men working jobs.
Can't deny that it's ruining the allure of college sports.
A bit and a happy medium would be nice.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Let me ask you this. If I were just a
student and I jumped from university university of the way
they do, what would happen to me.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Nothing. If you want to change your major, if you
want to say something happened in your family, if you
feel like the setting's not right for you, nothing would happen.
It cost me more money, potentially depending what university.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
It would extend how long it would take to get
my degrees. Like there's definitely like there's repercussions that that
they're not experiencing right now.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I just and I said this to I think it's
Frank by the way, it's his name and nineties kid
and everybody else in different handles. I think Trav rode
in as well. I saw a dB, not Derek Brown,
but a dB wrote in a lot of comments. Appreciate
all that I said. It's not so much about what
happened with like what college sports stands for. It's that
this take is going to age so poorly. Like there

(54:43):
was a time before my lifetime that I'm sure there
was free agency. Like people sixty years ago were like,
what do you mean We're gonna let players pick who
they're going to sign Withugh, there was times that happened
with the NFL, like Reggie White. What happened for free
agency back then. The NFL's rules were different when guys
were allowed to leave for college if you had to
stay for four years or three years or two years.

(55:04):
There have been things that we look back on decades
ago and to be like, oh, yeah, like that was
a dumb rule. This will be one of those the
idea we're trying to limit people's control for what reason,
because we're not used to it, because it's weird, because the.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Doctor's turning the product.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I don't even agree that it hurts the overall product.
I think college sports is in a better spot than
it's ever been ever. I mean, you're getting billion dollar
deals and you got games from noon to midnight. It
feels good.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I get what people are saying, though, Yeah, but you
but you're a different level of fan, Like you watched
the entire you try to ingest every second of college football.
You can ingest. I watch a lot of college football.
I don't. I don't, not even in your neighborhood. There's
been multiple times this year, in the last two years
where I will turn on a game and go, what

(55:49):
the hell the key on? Koleman leave Michigan State? Like
some you know what I mean, Like there's no saying
human could keep up with what's going on with these
transfers and everything. And I think that does hurt the
product at some point. And yes, that happens in the NFL.
The oh, Matt Hollins, he's on the Bills now, you know,
like like that does I. I just I think that
there's I think we're we're head in the right direction,

(56:13):
but there does need to be a little structure to it,
and I do I do feel like possibly maybe Saban
is telling you what he needs to tell you in
case you ever want to see him on the sidelining,
you know, like, and I think Herbstreet's right behind him, going,
this is the message that everybody I work for once
out too. So let's go not.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Full control, but a little restrictions. Like I'm sure if
Herbstreet's who's got full control of their lives, well, there
you go. Like if Herb Street and McAfee or saman
saw my tweet, they'd probably say, hang on, I do
have to work under contracts. Hang on, guys, I can't
say everything I want in the air. I just can't leak.
I do have some restrictions I work under, but so
do college kids, and they probably say the same thing.

(56:54):
I can't play for two different teams in one season.
I have to fit in thish off my scholarship. I
was more bothered by the irony of well, we need
control when other when those guys aren't conceding control. Those
three in particular.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Right, but they also fought and earned to get there,
you know, not you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yeah, I got it. It's did nineteen year olds deserve
that type of you know, what do they do to
earn that?

Speaker 3 (57:17):
At that point, let me put this. I'm I'm very
conscious of what you're saying. I don't one hundred percent
agree with it, but as sure as hell the hell
I'm willing to die on.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
So I'll be mister nil. You know that?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah? Okay, Well, I mean listened to a lot of
what we do. Was it for NIL? I wouldn't I
wouldn't be able to be here, you know, So let's go,
let's get done. And actually there's there's talk on like
other levels of NIL starting to creep into the world.
So like everywhere I go, like somebody's trying to work
it into their industry. So it's so here, here we are,

(57:49):
this is the world we live in, and the blueprints
being made by a bunch of college kids were making
way more money than you.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Who what show? What shoke could you listen to? To
go from naked portraits to serious NIL talk that is
facing gods.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
And and let's and let's be honest. Is is there
a is that part of the an il? Like will
we get half naked portraits of people?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
My sister in lawster like jobs?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
What is the job?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I'll take the nil and the portrait for two hundred police.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
What how dare you? My good friend is working hard
to get a good job. I know part of the process.
All right, Well that that's the show's over now absolutely,
Where do you go from there? I mean you know
where you go from there?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
You know what riches where you go from here? All right?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
It is a fox sportrait ninety five. Wash your hands,
don't touch your face. Guys, hit that button.