January 27, 2025 • 50 mins
This week, Karen and Chris welcome comedian Sam Pancake to chat about thriving celiacs, epic wig reveals and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you leave in I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and a terminol and gay a. We want to
send you off in start.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Malborn?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Do your need to ride?
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need
a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And this is Karen.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
We are podcasting.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
We are podcasting. We just is solo episode doesn't sound
like I'm out of gas. No, no way, I'm filled
to the brim with unletted and I can't stop talking.
We're going to pick up a friend.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Yes, I can't wait to report how many sirens and
undesirables there are in their neighborhood. No, that's not what
we do. It's actually becoming just like so many places
in Los Angeles. You go one block and all of
a sudden you're like looking at refurbished Victorian homes, whereas
(02:00):
before it was not that it was like just a
hammock on fire.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, those guys were hanging out on their front porch
Friday style cool.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
The exact same thing I was thinking, right, I think
that one guy really looked like.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Bye bye, there was.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Look good, Sam's nice house? Beautiful?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Hello, fancy pants?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Hello pants? I just called pants?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, sure, get in on the other side. One of
my oldest.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Friends, one of Karen's oldest friends, stars, stage and screen,
clubs and colleges, putting yours together for Sam Pancake. Hy.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Hello, great news for you, bad news for me. I'm
in one of my mood nuts. Yeah, nuts, it's right Fairbanks.
I'm gonna touch you both on the shoulder. Hi. Everyone,
Oh can I say that loud?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sure, A peek behind the hurting immediately.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Hi guys, how are you well? Have you ever been
in this neighborhood?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean here, and they're not that exact streame.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
What what do you think I was saying before we
picked you up? Just take a gaes.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Clubs in colleges is not me. I mean I went
to college, and I certainly have been to some nights
clubs in my day, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
I prefer saying it when it's not a touring stand
up comedian. Oh okay, it's like, but occasionally it has
confused people. I just keep saying it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Karen started, Everyone gets the same in.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well perfect, Yes, well I was, I am a fan.
I listen, I did, Hi. Do you mean to tell
you about Jenny Yang? I just listened to Yes, I did.
I love Jenny Yang. Yeah, she's a delight. Where do
I start? I just have at the beginning litany of complaints.
Haven't slept much in two weeks.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Guess why don't you know you witnessed another murder? Yes, yes,
Christ years ago, the murder of my nation, the murder
of my country. I am what else was going on?
I'm just I feel like I I thought. My brain's
(04:22):
on backwards. I'm raw, I'm open, I'm ripe, I'm sleep deprived.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
H O T T O G O A M A.
Let's do it right. This is my This is my
Starbucks that we like.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
On the left, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
This is on the right is a chicken place where
on last Wednesday, a few weeks ago. You know, I'm
a celiac survivor. Stuff the right word. I don't know.
Dependent Thriver.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
If you're surviving, you're suffering.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And I went right in there to Church's chicken, which
has been taunting me since I lived in this neighborhood,
and had a two piece and a biscuit and said
gluten be yes, you know what. I don't think it well.
I don't think the three days I spent in bed,
the three or four days I spent in bed the
next few days. I think the chicken helped that. I
don't think the chicken was the cause. I think it
was other things. Yesterday, let me tell you, Yesterday it
(05:14):
was dentist. Yesterday was therapist. Yesterday was my new writing class. Yo,
I'm writing, I'm writing essays. I'm in a personal essay class.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Good.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And then then the house there there's again I live
like when I lived at Busy's, which we can say
now because none of us live there anymore, where the
murder happened, don'ts I once again find myself in a
guest house, a du as recalling them situation. So my
friend Arthur who lives in the front, who's like him,
and all these old punk rock people who now have
different jobs. They he had a dinner party and it
(05:48):
was very fun. But today was just not It was
not a great day. Really, yeah, which the gym though.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Just because your brain is on backwards.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
My brain's on backwards. I haven't felt right. I'm also
I would say crossroads, but it's more like where are
the roads? Like it's right, it's like a sprawling tundra
of I've had about seven cups of coffee and an
entire celsius, two pieces of Prince Street pizza, an orange,
(06:17):
and an actin shake. This is me, welcome.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are you just eating anything that's in front of you?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Shimmering with caffeine and anxiety?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A shake is like did you have to go back
in time to have that?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No, let me tell you what this personal phone number?
I somehow decided, And none of my decisions are great.
We know that, sure to just get an auto delivery,
which can easily be stopped, but somehow I fuddled by
it until it gets there from a large corporation that
mails us things which I'm not I refuse to say
the name of. And this like I went through a
(06:54):
period a few years ago. It was probably during the
Cocoa pe cocoa pandy that I started to just have
drink a sensible shake for lunch like back in the nineties,
right right, So it's one hundred and forty calories and
you get all your nutrients. So I just started getting those,
and I now just if I I'm someone who forgets
(07:14):
to eat, which a lot of people hate me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, fuck you for real, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I fucked me. No, no, I say I fuck me. Oh,
but uh, it's I just do because it's my anxiety.
And so I didn't eat a lot last week except
for chicken. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
At least you're having a meal replacement beverage exactly. Yes.
I forget to eat when I have a day of
ADHD or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I'm self diagnosed. I have many things I'm not sure of,
but I'll forget to eat all day. Yes, and an
Atkins anything a slim fast, even if you want to
go early eighties.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Do we still have slim Fast in the world?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I bet we do, okay, unless they unless there was
like some sort of a lawsuit and change the name.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
But it could be it could be like I get
a tall can of fen fan Is that bad?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The thing is, uh, darkness follows R E. M. That
I used to have quite a drug habit back in
the day. So right, yes, we were. We had some
parallel secrets together. Here what what you do?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
What you do?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
No? I did the what do we call it? What
we call it crystal because it sounds light and fun,
crystal mess. Oh wow, okay, what a big one. But
I've spoken about this before. Yeah, yeah, it was, but
it didn't feel big. It felt like speaking of ADHD,
which I now have termed by my have been diagnosed
by my therapist as subclinical ADHD, which means I don't
(08:46):
need medication, But I says, who says.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I, Well soon RFK Junior will say everybody nobody gets anything.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Chug and raw milk. Yeah, but I I it's one
of those things that with drugs can do like it
works for a while really well. And it was like
my adderall and I've done that too, and it's nearly
the same thing. But the adderall in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
A sexy it's literally the same thing, right, So people,
I think the adderall people get very upset when you
talk about it, But.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Don't you think it pushes the same little buttons in
your brain to a degree. That's my experience.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's literally the same drug.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Okay, Okay, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As well as the buttons my brain was getting pushed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Were the fen?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yes? What were the fens in the fen?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, I don't remember the actual thing. It was like
fental conan or something like. That was the first one
that was the upper, and then there was another one
fen furnamine or something.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
These are guesses, and that was a downer.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I started taking it early enough before they were
giving you the downer, so it was only the upper.
So I was always mad and I was always drunk,
and I always had a bunch of shit to say
to everybody. And then after I stopped taking it, that
never really went away.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Kind of how it.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Is opened the flood gates.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, it just like I guess, it just supported who
I really wanted to be, got it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, it's like being famous. It just brings out what
you already are.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And it's kind of like I mean, I like to
laugh and have a good time, but also I love
telling people to shut the fuck up because they need.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
To be told that.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I will say this because I've known Karen Denise Victoria
Catherine Kilgarat for four thousand years. Even though she is
thirty four and I'm eighty seven.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I finally known the middle man.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm just that's one of my That'll pancake secrets is
you were We were always great together, but you were
on stage you could be like, well, you're genius obviously,
and you that's where I saw that used for hilarious,
delight and good.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I never abusive comedy, just.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Like telling shit like it is and calling a motherfucker out.
But I don't remember rasing that when I knew you. Socially,
we though Iya too was on Messa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What I know we were probably meeting and having that
kind of effervescence of like, oh yeah, horay Son's up
here with me.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's how I felt when I talked to you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's absolutely what it was. Karen Y. It's true. Well,
I'm glad we're still.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Peals me too. We're still up here, Sam.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We are, we are. I am now. I can drink
one Celsia's Energy drink, not a sponsor, and I only
do it when I really need to. But I'm serious, y'all.
I am not supposed to take anything, you know, drug
deular like like hard drugs anymore, right, right, But I'm
having a true crisis of sleep, and I have tried
(11:41):
everything and my nervous system overrides allway.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Are you having coffee and then celsius every day?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
No, sirry rarely. This is a day where I want
to be special for you.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, I did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
This is your fault.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Every podcast day, I've got coffee throughout the day. That's
a little sacred that I've kept from Karen Stewart Aster
Elizabeth Garrett.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The current has been ripped off. It's not just pulled back.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Anymore, ripped out and burned. I rarely do celsius. My my.
This is a place for secrets, right.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, this is a special episode of secret.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I if I'm really having a time where I really
need to go to sleep, I will take Nikwel pills
and they really work, but I have to limit that
to like once a month, and usually for a work day.
It's not ideal. I'm groggy in the morning, but it's
matter four hours of sleep. Yes, I'll take it. Normally,
I do a little bit of like a slow release melatonin.
(12:42):
I do a little CBD drops and now again I'll
do a benadrill. But bend makes me like depressed. And
I told my therapist that he was like that's not
a side effective like I welcome you inside my brain? Doctor,
can you tell me you know? Yeah, here's a jot.
I wake up with a neil and sign and says
you're the biggest failure ever known to man, blinking over
(13:03):
my bed. Yeah, I stop out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah you do? You always do?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I do.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I don't have you ever tried an EPSOM salt bath
and or magnesium?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
See this is I've had this conversation a few times.
The last time I take magnesium it didn't really work,
and one time I did it, it just gave me
the you know, the trots. Oh yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Can be great if you're feeling you know, bloated.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I true, And when am I not? The honest? Please?
I don't this is embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't have a bathtub right now.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so I've done it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I've done those before, the absence salt baths and in
the big house where my friend lives and he's gone
a lot. He he has a bathtub, so I might try
that again. Yeah. Yeah, well I can I have the
either run of the place. Have you met me? I'm
a bossy old you're.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A personality higher for sure. They want you in there.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Also, I take care of shit. I was like to
this Carter, get a new one. He did it. The
new one's great. Welcome to me. I used to live
in a fucking estata.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What to do?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You're famous? Thank you waving a truck.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
That person sped up. They wanted a piece of your
back bumper.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah that was weird. It's like they stopped to let
me go and then they're like, no, fuck you.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Well much less popular than the bath as the EPSOM
salt shower, which I've done. I didn't have a plug
for my tongue. I just I put the salts in
it made of paste, and I literally rubbed it into
my joints.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Christ, this is true. Were one of your fantasies.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
This is a real I do a lot of experimenting
in the shower. I used to wear clothes. That's enough
of that.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, lash tell me more, fellow.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Just you know, if I if I need to pre
wash some clothing, like I don't want to stain the
set and I pull on my back skateboarding, I'll wear
that shirt in the shower. To Karen's dismay, give it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
A pre frankly to Sam's.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Too, yeah, let's all be honest.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I don't then can say I don't then dry it
out and put it in my drawer. It's just a
pre wash.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, and why take it off?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I'm sweaty, there's dirt on my back. Take a shower
with their shirt off, take it off during the shower,
set wet shirt aside. I don't then keep the shirt on,
dry my hair, go on with my day. It's a
quick pre wash, Okay. I will say, rubbing eb some
salt into your joints does help.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's a that's a good thing to know.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
You're mainlining it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And yeah, because you're kind of when you take it
through your skin. Also you can get more of it.
And then some salts is like all magnesium, right.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I think, I guess, so I'm gonna try that. I'm
taking all offers. I almost called a message to my
doctor today, say, may I please just have some sort
of a sleeping pill which is dangerous air storry for
you know, snorts McGee back here. But yeah, you know,
you know, calm down pill, pancake. But like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Here's the funny thing too.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was thinking about this the other day, how come
I feel like is this child walking along?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Let's ask that that was like a kid alone?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Are you alone?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
When I go to like a brunch, if I make
the terrible mistake of like I'm going to order waffles,
you know what I mean, like I'm going to bust
out and have a dessert breakfast, I am ready to
fall asleep within thirty minutes, really shorter. And I wonder,
although you have silly ex but it's like sometimes there's
not like when you eat a lot of carbs, like
a big bull of spaghetti help you go to sleep?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, Well, I've also the habit which is not ideal,
and a lot of it now is like as we know,
the strikes, slow work time, Yes, rough times, rough times,
rough times, and I and I you know, we're all
going through it. So that's a part of it. That's why,
you know, not always does does my nervous system shark
its way through anything I put inside my body? But
(17:08):
I have always been a big, big old cereal before bed,
but like not like a frosted flake, not like a
you know, really crazy cocoa.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Pa a sheet.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well it's yeah, it's in that neighborhood. Well, it's it's
I do a lot of I can do because of celiacs.
I do a rice crispy Oh yeah, yeah you can.
But see, almost all of those have malta. This is
so boring, but welcome to my supplement podcast about ingredients
(17:42):
have multodextrin, which is a form anything malt is wheat
almost always, yeah, like malted milk or whatever, because it's
for extra flavor. Now, my celiac isn't to the degree that,
like I, I didn't have any symptoms, but they found
it by surprise when they were checking my you know,
my colonoscopy. Yeah, they did an Endosky beat check massive reflux,
(18:03):
and they were like, hey, guess what. Guess what surprise surprise.
Everything you enjoy drugs, alcohol, smoking, that's gone. And guess
what else is going to? Biscuits, fried chicken and happiness.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Good luck. Yeah, you can have those little weird seaweed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Past things exactly. You can have a big glove of
epps and salts in the shower.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I must also add that the coarse, giant grains of
salt it's painful to rub in your skin because I
was out of breath, and I think also sort of burping,
and so I'm yelling like big speech bubbles.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
But Chris also, that's a great exfoliator. I would imagine
rights baby soft.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
My knees and macs of legs have never been more supple, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I don't have and I'm lucky that i'm, you know again,
nearly eighty seven and a half years old. But like,
I don't have any joint stuff, and I do go
to the gym. That's the thing I did today. What
helps my sleep is like if I pump, I can't
believe I'm saying this, and you I am pump iron right,
really yeah, truly, like like the machines, much can you lift?
(19:21):
I don't look at the things. I move the novel
to the pineh and I don't the gym where I
live now, the gym where I'm going down in this
neighborhood which I love, which is new and big and
everyone's hot, and I know I never run into anyone
I know.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Do they have classes?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They don't have class.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I joined a gym by my house that could otherwise
be a car payment, but I'm just trying it out
because they have massage people and classes. And I realized
in a class setting. I'm competitive enough to where I
actually get a workout where if I leave it up
to me, and I'm doing things that I never think
(19:58):
to do, like I don't touch it bell. I'm not
gonna every class there involves my lower body in spotting
in some way, and I have to be careful what
I sign up for because I'm like, sure, I'll do
whatever lift is. Everyone in there was Olympic style speed
skater legs and it was like, uh, snatch and lift
(20:19):
type class like that takes skill. The word Olympics is
in it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah? I realized I'm working out for the first time
in my life and I leave those classes unable to
walk for three days?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Why do you not work your upper body? Is it
perfect already?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
I They have a Sunday that they call like, here's
our Vanity Arm Day, and I'm like, that's all I
ever really did. I realized I was not doing things
that actually make me my body perform better.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Do you also do it as I do to help
knock yourself out to sleep or do you not need that?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Yes? It does as a byproduct, And thank you for
I mean back on topic, because that's why I am
so tired that I had to stop. I don't. I
no longer abuse therapy flu.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Which so that's my secret.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean yeah, it was me with the niquil.
But you I've learned the hard way even before I
got Sebber, like, if you do it more than you
know two or three two times in a row doesn't
work anymore.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Oh yeah, I really it's only for like I have
to get sleep tonight.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I also had a an fantastic massage on Monday
at my tie place, and she was it was one
of the best, to thank God, because I needed it
more than ever. She walked all over me and I
was I was giggling and like making noises. She was
giggling and she was so adorable. And when Baltis start laughing,
She's like, are you a cane? It's fine, I just
make noises right because I do. And she small but mighty,
(21:50):
and it was so I slept Monday night. I'll give
myself that much.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's nice. Well, I wonder if there's like stretches you
can do. They're kind of on parr careing and.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I always I'm just like, I just don't do them.
There are ways that I don't have to get pills
for a part of me. It's just like pills are
the answer.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Because I love pills.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I love pills.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
The stretches, Yeah, I mean I think once our natural
layers it will be better. But or I get a
ding dang job again. It's not like some funny can't
be cuckuckoo Like I was Betty Davis and hushush with
Cheryl It the other night at Backbar's.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Oh? Nothing? It was a dream And I'm going to force
you to look at a picture of me please.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I really at some point I want to say the
picture too. But I want to talk about what episodes
of Golden Girls because I that you are your favorites
that I don't talk about because sure, since you were
last non, I like feel like I discovered that show
suddenly and how ahead of its time it was. And uh,
(22:56):
there's a lot of favorite episode.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
There's your friends who make it profession exactly, Wow, how
do you do it? It's that's my friend, my friend Johnny,
who was also in it. Didn't he's a pro. He's
a pro and he can do anything, and he's one
of those paint this man face. Once I shaved into
into a Betty Davis you know face, and I do
have big round eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, you have that year good cast there. That was
a good choice.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It was fun. We it's this little group we do
called Queer Radio Hour that my friend Nathan Frizelle does
and we've done so far Mommy Dearest with me as
Joan whatever. I had a baby Jane with me as
Joan and Bruce Valanche is Betty Davis, which was ladies
and gentlemen, the real standing, the real Oh yeah. It
was a benefit we did for the Dane Lesbie Center
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and so yeah, that's what I did. So that makes
me happy. And again we'll make a little bit of money.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
That's exactly in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Terms of Golden Girls. I you know, I keep hoping
I'll ever have to do it again, not that I.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Don't love it, but why yeah, is it just yeah,
I'm so precious.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Doing it like ten years now and I'm kind of like, okay,
and it's I'm so happy. It's such a gift. I
love working with Drew Drogie as you'll know. And yes
sometimes Rose is Killy Manto and then Sherry Vine and
Jackie Beat.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Jackie Beat.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
My face just hasn't been the same since Casita shut down,
because you know, you know the theater which they're they're
bringing back, are they really Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I know what you mean or I understand, you know,
doing it for that long, but I swear to god,
I went one time by myself.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think it was just after COVID would that be right?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, and I was. I bought my ticket last second.
It was like, oh I have I'm not working whatever,
and the beautiful manager, lovely man, mister Dan Ester Dan
unfolded a folding chair and put me in the aisle
like someone's lost aunt. It was fucking It was humiliating
and hilarious at the same time. But then the like
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lights went down, those commercials started running. It was the
most delightful thing. And then everyone's sang the theme song
and it was like truly, truly like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Self for the soul.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh, that's right, it's Karen. That was that July twenty
twenty one, the first one we did back, and Roz
was in that one too, ros Ernandez, that's right, playing
Big Daddy's new young wife. And it had the and
we did three weekends. We had a space amountain more
because of COVID, but it was we cried a lot
during that because it was the big Oh my god,
we're back, we're doing life theater all together, we're singing.
(25:28):
It was pretty magical.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yes, there was big feelings.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You did commercial breaks too, excuse.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Me, Oh yeah, we do the period commercials, just the
commercial breaks of the show.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
They run them.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, we run them all.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh okay, I was hoping you got to act out
those too.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I did a show once where we did do those.
I remember playing mister Whipple and some cooky show with
the Grownlings and other seventies stuff, and my husband some
hot shot. Here's his ancient tiny secret cow gone, which
is not ideal.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I mean nothing was nothing was ancient Chinese secret. But
at least Asian people were in that commerce.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's true. That's true. The woman and her husband were
both Asian. Yes, the good.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
News, but they were I'm sure if they had their way,
they'd be like, can someone rewrite this? So it's just
regular people talking about a detergent exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah, that's got to be something a lot of people share.
How many commercial jingles and commercials I have memorized from
my childhood where I will never get them out of
my head. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well that's in the Golden the Golden Girls show. We
do these commercials like you know, where's the beef for whatever?
Eighties stuff? Sure, other jingles that are not coming to
my brain right now, but that's another part of the
like the charm of the show.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yes, people really get to go back, they do.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah. Yeah, and even like my nieces and nephews are
teenagers come and they everything just so exotic and wild
and weird to them. So because the kids can come,
because even though we do some filthy sides.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, just the scripts, yes, it was on TV.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, the show. Yeah, so many tongue in cheek, sexual
innuendo jokes. There are so many good jokes. It's one
of the best written shows. But then the sweet like
did you ever do the episode live where they go
to the homeless shelter because of this jacket ticket?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yet I haven't done that one. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
It's really a sweet one. And I got terry eyed
just because it was you know, ving, it was Yeah,
and it was also predicting what a problem.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh yeah, that's right. Well they covered Rose one episode
thought she had HIV, right, and then she was addicted.
She got suddenly addicted to you know, speak of the
double like speed pills or something right speed. Yeah, I
think so she was on something. She was addicted. Funny,
I might be conflating that with Elizabeth Berkeley, Jesse just
(28:00):
Pano and say by the bell. Right.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
It's hard a lot of the Yeah, they have parallel.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Themes and they all look alike.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, everything, and there's always some hustle where every other
episode of Golden Girls, they're trying to raise money because
they're all broke and there's an auction, or they're trying
to figure out how to sell a painting they've acquired.
That's my favorite. I don't remember them all being hustlers
and willing to break the law together.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
To pay for the leaky roof, yeah, or the toilets
that's broken.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah, it's the best. There's just what we're.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Don't They live in a condo or like a it's
a house. Oh, it's there.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
The actual house is in Westwood. I mean you can
go see it of the exterior. Nice and then they
live together in a house. But we're doing it again.
I'm not sure when this comes out but the third weekend,
I think in February at Largo or Beloved Largo or
Planning in the Gang, which we've been doing it lately. Great,
and Bob the Drag Queen is the special guest star.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Perfect. Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's an incredible plug.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's I'm not sure what episodes
were doing it because Jackie. I let Jackie and Sherry
make those calls because so often sometimes I can't do
it because of television work. But I don't think that'll
be too much of a danger next year. But we'll see,
we'll see.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I met Bob the Drag Queen zach Ny Towers, Yes, yeah, yeah,
the West Side, and we had the best time.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He's so funny.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yes, he had a stand up and Ro's opened for
him and Zach I think did they take turned sera goldten?
They take to him?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And Zach opens for it.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
He's a well known.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I think Zach opened.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
He's been touring with him and he was telling me
about it where he's like, no, no, it's a solid
stand up hour.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's no light. He's doing stand up.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's not like he was just saying how much he
loved it and it was so good and solid and
he really respected.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It and Roz had a great, great time with him too,
and yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yeah, And that I just briefly talked to him, and
it was about how the stand up is totally separate
from the drag performance.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But one of my favorite like things I've ever seen
on the internet was the first time I saw a
Bob the drag Queen, and it was that live show
video where he came out on stage and he was
wearing the most gigantic wig and then the wig the
wig snatch reveal is that there is a six year
old girl sitting on his head.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Were like a five year old maybe, but.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like a little It's the one of the most incredible
fucking things I've ever seen, and it's so the audience
goes fucking insane that it is so funny.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
It's way better than my wig bit Baby. It was
an early Wigbit'll.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Just describe it because that'll be funny. It was I
just acquired tail don't show.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
I acquired six identical wigs and I just had them
on top of each other and I did my normal
stand up, but I'd stop and go. I'm sorry. I
can't lie to you people anymore. I'm not who you
think I am. And I'd take it off and there'd
be another I did it over and over though.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
How many wage sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Well, at the end my hair looked like I had big,
curly hair, and at the end it was my real hair.
And so I'm pulling on my real hair, okay, which
I know it's I'm describing it. It's much more impressive
to say a six year old girl sitting on my head.
That's why it's better.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, you didn't look. You didn't win that one. Bob
the drag Queen won that one hands down.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Well you weren't there the night that it got me
second funniest person in Austin. Soo back now I'm roasting.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Karen hold On.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I was there that night.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Oh no, you were one of the judges.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But said not first, I said, definitely.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Not literally A rough ride around here.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It's tough. It is tough around here.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch what you say.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I I'm I. We should have taken me to some
Epps some salts, so canna make a paste epsom salts.
You don't need a bathtub. You don't, Chris Fairbanks, I
never know what's gonna come out of your sweet little
mouthful and into my earbuds.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
And it's just a mouthful of salt.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's just salt, rock salt.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I keep thinking, I keep thinking, I'm saying the printer company,
which is ep Sun right, And we decided last time
that I need to do a joke where I'm throwing
a plugged in EPSOM printer into the bathtub with me.
Just end it all.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
The last printer I bought is still it never got open.
It's I think it's still sitting in the garage. Yeah,
I just do What do you do with them? Like
I don't know. I have this like fear slash reluctance
of returning and laziness is around it there too. Why don't?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Why do you want to return it? And you just
don't it's no good for you.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Well, Arthur already had one, and I just didn't want
to buy the ink, and I, oh, when I immediately
broke it, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Well they're so.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Rickety and fragile and ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And then yeah, I was in Palm Springs for two
and a half weeks. Long story In October kind of
house sitting and you're going.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
To tell that story in October to us.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I was going to Okay, yeah, I was riveting
no matter what month of the year. But I went
I had to go to Staples to get something printed
because it's Pump Springs and it was like twenty five
cents a page and their printer was broken. Yeah, And
you know what I did was for an audition, and
I just called an agent said I'm not going in
on it now that things aren't so bad that I
can't pass on something I'm never going to get and like,
(33:40):
try to do an audition in Pump Springs on the
self tape.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's got to be a good feeling.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I mean when someone wants me, if someone wants me
to print something, I'm like, what year do you think?
Do you want me to fact something too? Like I
who has a printer anymore? Let me sign it and
emailed it digitally.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I have to say I like a hard copy, and
I feel guilty about it because, oh I got a
long at work.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Because it just is easier for me to I think
it's probably ADHD related. Let's go all the way away.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like you're wanting to do donuts a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's kind of fun in the.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Middle of la round about something else that can't have
any Sorry I brought.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
It up here. Just say churos, sugar and wheat.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
But I like a hard copy to be able to read,
and like copy edit.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Or something I do too. I like especially script. You
can't just do it off your tape.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I think I think it's the reason I happened.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I don't audition much anymore for commercials, and I think
I'm like, I don't, I don't. I'm not going to
get a why are they working on three D printers
when they can't figure out it?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Thank you, doctor Fairbanks.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
That's the right question in someone answer just replacing the
cartridges or filling them up. If you figured out that, here's.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
A part of my crazy, which is vast in the
situation I live in like it's Arthur's printer, and he
like I. We both kind of we're both of around
the same agent, so we help each other out with
it stuff. Sure which sidebar. I hooked up with the
guy here and the neighbord the other night on a
specialty adult app nice and it was fun. But the
(35:31):
most important thing is he found a much of writing.
I did that. I lost him on word Microsoft Word
and I said, can I can I do anything else
for you?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Sir? That's so funny?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Wait, so this was an app where people come and
help you with your computer.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
He was a farmer.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It was it was sex, but it was just like
that was the byproduct. It was the real thing. Was
like he was in twenty six. Anyway, my pot was
that and you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Did all I have you Well, that's so great.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know, people want to be your boyfriend. And I'm like, absolute,
I love it. And he was asking about my life
and I was like, I don't know how it came up.
I didn't force it. I didn't be like, oh, could
you come over here so we can you know, hasty
violations and then open up my laptop.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
That's the best premise is if you disguise it as
role playing, but it's like all these things you need done,
sexy secretary, you know what. I what really turns me
on if you could take shorthands someone that.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Knows, yes, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I think tears really smarts to.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Cornell Forgot's sake. But I when it's Arthur's printer, his
printer and like I do the ink when someone else's
thing and I can feel And this is I think
from being for me family of a lot lot of kids.
If I can feel superior, once I get to know something,
I'll take care of it. I'm like, I'll get the paper,
I'll put the ink in out Right, if it was
just me in my house, i'd be like baby print
(36:58):
print that. If it's our through, I'm like, oh, get
out of the way. Yeah, not literally, just in my mind.
This is not like in the way.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Yeah, move Arthur enough with your punk rock flyers smooth.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You have to come over sometime and like there's that.
He's decorated like a seventies punk rock rock and roll basement.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Like a CBGB's more colorful.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
They're not dirty and smelly and piss on the walls.
But like yeah, yeahs like like like posters, like every
single record album, all kinds of funny things. I love
the drum set, all the guitars of old jukebox. It's
pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
That is cool. That's a great theme that I thought about.
I did wallpaper in my apartment. I went overboard, but
what pattern well I was thinking of because the Halloway
bar near my house that they used old rock flyers
as a wallpaper and it looks amazing because they did
a good job. And I'm like, oh, this looks like
(37:54):
a CD bathroom, but it's a clean, finished wallpaper job
of rock flyers, Like it doesn't have to be pie
smell themed to be you know what I mean, Like
it's neat. But I ended up with just doing a
snowy mountain scene like a wall photo mural.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
More importantly, our new neighbors moved in there and they're
a hot gay couple. Can you imagine how lucky we
feel in here, right in there, right next door, because
this neighborhood's all these craftsmens that are all individual. It's
a long story, but they redid the front better and
they're like lovely, kind of conjured up better neighbors.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh that's very exciting. This house is gorgeous too.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I love it, right.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah, that's really That's why it's just saying about this neighborhood.
You go twenty feet and all of a sudden there's
like a different theme.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Isn't it wild?
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean LA used to really be
something it did.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
These are all built in the teens. I guess it's
also to give too much away of my.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Location the old yeah, please don't well all, yeah, I
ain't scared of nobody my area. Yeah, it's Angelino Heights.
And it's so funny because on where I live, it's
like basically where they shot training Day. But then you
go around the corner and there's these beautiful refurbished Victorian
(39:15):
homes where it's like, this looks like the college.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Well, no, it's charmed. It's thriller. It's Coljak.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Oh yeah, right right, it's charmed.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Col Chack.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Every house from the UPN network is in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I've been comforting myself watching a Colchak the night soccer
episodes on Peacock to go back to my childhood fund
talk about.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It was that guy on fen Fund because he was
like Cole Jack is in such a bad mood all
the time.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It is nothing but white straight man, possibly straight because
the sexual tension between him and Simon Oakland, who places editor,
is so strong and they are screaming, spittling in each
other's face the entire time about a werewolf for a
witch who's a fashion designer.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But it's like, yeah, there's no.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's it's the opposite of like entertainment. It's like, do
you want to watch two old men fight?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
And they're probably in their forties, they look like they're
in their seventies today, and there they are screaming at
the back row of the theater when the cameras three
inches away.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you can smell the brown liquor.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's just that's the kind of fine old pestiche lowing.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
And it's why I think I was raised on that stuff.
Where one time I was doing an episodic or a
procedural and they, I want to say it was the
police offers questioning me because of the crime I might
have done. Said we got He's like, he's like, what
do you What? Am I in the back row? I'm
sitting right here? Why are you yelling at me? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Was he the series regular Son.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Of a B And I asked, wanted, No, just gonna
look at my MDV.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Oh okay a couple.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Does this mean.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No that we're wrapping it down?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I mean I'm just tightening it up. I don't know
what that means. I were coming. It made less sense
to keep driving around. We've seen a lot of unilluminated pedestrians.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Also, those two guys that had their heads pulled up
and tied real tight, I'm like, well, those are they're
doing crimes.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
They're just cold. Just they're cold. They're regular people with
cold chins.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
They're just cold. They didn't expect it to turn this cold.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
I'm probably hooking up with one of them. They're just
trying to be honest.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Next time you come over, can you pretend you're doing
a crime again? That other one look like Outside my
Dreams again, Chris, did you was it a pocket? What
were you doing where you talked about old horror movies?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Oh, I'm still doing that. Yeah, Yeah, I'm actually going
at seven thirty to do a bonus.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It's called Sam Pancake Presents the Monday Afternoon Movie. Oh yes,
and Karen Bernadotte, Cristo Priscilla kill Gariff has done it
and she was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Delight.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
We did this house Possessed starting for Ger Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yes, and we I think we talked for two and
a half hours. We just like, good luck editing that bullshit.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
It was a two parter.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
It was a two part All the movies you talk.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
About initially started out just being seventies TV horror movie
right right, and then it kept going so I expanded
to like eighty Steve horror movies, and then I did
like a season that ended up being a couple of
years of all the teen movies like Sarah t Portrait
of a Teenage Alcoholic, don Portrait of a teenage run away,
Go ask Alice, you know right.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
There was one.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It was someone Scott Bao was an alcoholic. Oh my god,
and you're getting hit in the head.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yes, with the boat or the Boy who drank too much?
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Yes, no way, but I called that. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
They played hockey and let me tell y'all something I was.
I watched it The Boy who Drank too Much? Yes,
and Lance Kirwin R and P. They watch it again
if you want your heart to be ripped out in
the best way, because I kind of yeah. No, I'm
a funny fella, they say, and I goof fun stuff. Sure,
(42:58):
I seen it. You know, I'm one of the few.
But this I was gonna watch with another friend of
mine who like also has the experience of twelve step programs.
I could just kind of be like, oh, well, look
what it was like back then. It was so heartbreaking
and beautiful. Oh and entirely shot on location for some
reason in Madison, Wisconsin, so it wasn't like Burbank passing
for you know, Minneapolis or something.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So it has this authenticity. It's so well acted. And
I try not to be one of those gay people
who like sees queer coating now and everything, but I'm
telling you, these two boys had this very special friendship.
And Lance Kerwin is so concerned about little Scott Bayoes
and his abusive father and all the drinking, and it
is heartbreaking. Yeah, And I was like, I can't make
fun of that. There's been very few that I was like, oh,
(43:40):
this is too tender and too good.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
And Scott beer was so good, Scott bal was so good.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Was that the one where Scott Bayo was wearing glasses
He has like almost like John Denver wireroom glasses on me.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Maybe I know that there's a lot of hockey. They're
both skated out and there's a lot of hockey.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Scott bo It makes me sad because he truly was
my first love. Like I just remember looking We're in
Food City and I looked over at the magazine rack
and he was on the front of TENV magazine and
I felt my heart like I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Arms crossed right probably yeah, yeahs or like.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
He had a cut up gray sweatshirt that was midriffs
that I was just.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Like, I just loved him.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
But and now just knowing like it's just you hate
that because it's like, no, that wasn't what we were doing,
Like what are you doing now?
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Oh? Politically yes, fateful.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Spiteful will be the Secretary of State next week? Good luck?
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Well this this maybe I hurt his feelings this whole time.
I can't imagine what he looks like. It's just a
young Tony Danza.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Well you're you're kind of right.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Yeah, it's kind of pixelated mixed with Robbie Bentson.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
He's in the Dylan silo for Before You.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Go, I'm Not going anywhere?
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Where are you staying any longer? I mean, what was
the because there's the Boy who Drank too Much? Which
what was the show where it was the main character
is a kid running home to about the bad yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And it was Michael Landon's story, yes yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
And he directed it. And it is again Lance Kerwin
who was marvelous. I don't know what happened. He only
died a couple of years ago. He went to WHI
and like there's some kind of religious cult question mark.
I don't know, but anyway, he's so good in all
these He.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Was a great child child act.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
He really was.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
He really was only in the Boy Who Do themed movie.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
The Loneliest Runner, and he hester because his abusive mother
sticks the urine soak sheets out the window to shame him.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
That. I mean, I've never wet the bed. And I'm
not bragging, but I that's really money. Yeah, I'm trying
to train myself. You need a drink more because I
sure did.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, I'm absolutely wet the bed proudly.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I just that seemed so cruel. I'm just I think
it just made me feel lucky to have parents that
didn't abuse me. That seems so awful to me.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
It's a rough ride, like go ahead and hit me,
but don't hang pee, like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
And then that's ramped up in the in the picture
because the adorable girl Melissasu Anderson for the Little House
and the Peririe moves in next door. So he really
he has to walk her home and she likes him,
and he likes her, but like he has to somehow
make his uses to run to get home before she
sees it. It's it's seventies were rough.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
It's bizarre that I'm even brought up because I don't
think I'm remembering it as a child. And when you
said the boy who drank too much, I'm like it
all came back to me.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And it's not called the boy who peed too much.
Speaker 7 (46:55):
Yeah, the boy who ran too much, because you know
he was such a runner.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
He became a track star, right, Michael Landon became like
a college athlete track star.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Okay, for one second, we just talked about Michael Landon
was so good looking.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Oh my god, it's it's Unfathomas. He's one of the
people I look back at as a child. I was like,
hold me, touch me, snuggle me, sir, your prairie shirt.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Paw, pa, please, pa, please.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Paw And he and he died so young, I.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Know, sad.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Have you ever heard Frank, You know, Frank Conneff, who
was on.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
He Don't take a watch in Mystery Science can say
three thousand almost every night.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I know, so good he made up a song that
he used to do at the Fake Allery when we
would do comedy shows there, and it was it was
because he had Michael Landon had just died. So People
magazine had a cover of Michael Dannon and the headline
was Michael Landon's Legacy of Love.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
So Frank so I wrote this song, and he goes.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Bring ding ding ding Ding Bringing.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And he's pretending that he's playing like little Finger, like
little Finger.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Symbols or something.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
With his mouth.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yes, and then he goes Michael Landon's Legacy of love.
It's a legacy that comes down from above. It's a
legacy that and then it basically and then it ends
with Michael Landon's Legacy of love. And I think of
it every fucking other day, like it's all I think about.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's well, now it's going to be in mind, and
I thank you for.
Speaker 8 (48:33):
That made it before you stay, I ring made it
even more sad, like when a dog dies and the
other dogs like fuck it and then they die with
the fact that Victor French, her sidekick in All since
Bonanza or whatever, All the Way to Highway to Heavens
(48:55):
sure died like the next week, right.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, really, yeah, right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
You French, not French, no.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
So hot in a different way.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
He's beard French.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Thank you friends for that ride.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I read it.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
I got all the ingredients I need for my Thanksgiving
corn pudding, all two of them, because we call me
a Rosie Bell Fretwell pancake in my family because that
was my grandmother's name, and she would try to hit
all the thanksgivings of all the kids. And I'm hitting too, yeah,
are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (49:25):
My sister is it too? And then a friend group
at seven that's good. Yeah, I'm not you know, I'm
too nervous to eat. I'll forget to eat that day.
I'm sure you all that horrible.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
A jew and a do.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
I love you?
Speaker 4 (49:42):
I love you, Karen, my almost birthday twin, Chris.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
Touch my hand you to thank you for being here. Goodbye,
Sam is the best well you've been listening to? Do
you need ride, dyn a R.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Our senior producer is Annalise Nelson.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Mixed by Edson Choy.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Our talent booker is Patrick Cootner.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Theme song by Karen Kilgarret.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar
podcast That's d y nar Podcast.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Thank you both.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
You're welcome.
Are you leave in I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and a terminol and gay a. We want to
send you off in start.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Malborn?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Do your need to ride?
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need
a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And this is Karen.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
We are podcasting.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
We are podcasting. We just is solo episode doesn't sound
like I'm out of gas. No, no way, I'm filled
to the brim with unletted and I can't stop talking.
We're going to pick up a friend.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Yes, I can't wait to report how many sirens and
undesirables there are in their neighborhood. No, that's not what
we do. It's actually becoming just like so many places
in Los Angeles. You go one block and all of
a sudden you're like looking at refurbished Victorian homes, whereas
(02:00):
before it was not that it was like just a
hammock on fire.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, those guys were hanging out on their front porch
Friday style cool.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
The exact same thing I was thinking, right, I think
that one guy really looked like.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Bye bye, there was.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Look good, Sam's nice house? Beautiful?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Hello, fancy pants?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Hello pants? I just called pants?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, sure, get in on the other side. One of
my oldest.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Friends, one of Karen's oldest friends, stars, stage and screen,
clubs and colleges, putting yours together for Sam Pancake. Hy.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Hello, great news for you, bad news for me. I'm
in one of my mood nuts. Yeah, nuts, it's right Fairbanks.
I'm gonna touch you both on the shoulder. Hi. Everyone,
Oh can I say that loud?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sure, A peek behind the hurting immediately.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Hi guys, how are you well? Have you ever been
in this neighborhood?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean here, and they're not that exact streame.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
What what do you think I was saying before we
picked you up? Just take a gaes.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Clubs in colleges is not me. I mean I went
to college, and I certainly have been to some nights
clubs in my day, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
I prefer saying it when it's not a touring stand
up comedian. Oh okay, it's like, but occasionally it has
confused people. I just keep saying it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Karen started, Everyone gets the same in.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well perfect, Yes, well I was, I am a fan.
I listen, I did, Hi. Do you mean to tell
you about Jenny Yang? I just listened to Yes, I did.
I love Jenny Yang. Yeah, she's a delight. Where do
I start? I just have at the beginning litany of complaints.
Haven't slept much in two weeks.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Guess why don't you know you witnessed another murder? Yes, yes,
Christ years ago, the murder of my nation, the murder
of my country. I am what else was going on?
I'm just I feel like I I thought. My brain's
(04:22):
on backwards. I'm raw, I'm open, I'm ripe, I'm sleep deprived.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
H O T T O G O A M A.
Let's do it right. This is my This is my
Starbucks that we like.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
On the left, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
This is on the right is a chicken place where
on last Wednesday, a few weeks ago. You know, I'm
a celiac survivor. Stuff the right word. I don't know.
Dependent Thriver.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
If you're surviving, you're suffering.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And I went right in there to Church's chicken, which
has been taunting me since I lived in this neighborhood,
and had a two piece and a biscuit and said
gluten be yes, you know what. I don't think it well.
I don't think the three days I spent in bed,
the three or four days I spent in bed the
next few days. I think the chicken helped that. I
don't think the chicken was the cause. I think it
was other things. Yesterday, let me tell you, Yesterday it
(05:14):
was dentist. Yesterday was therapist. Yesterday was my new writing class. Yo,
I'm writing, I'm writing essays. I'm in a personal essay class.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Good.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And then then the house there there's again I live
like when I lived at Busy's, which we can say
now because none of us live there anymore, where the
murder happened, don'ts I once again find myself in a
guest house, a du as recalling them situation. So my
friend Arthur who lives in the front, who's like him,
and all these old punk rock people who now have
different jobs. They he had a dinner party and it
(05:48):
was very fun. But today was just not It was
not a great day. Really, yeah, which the gym though.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Just because your brain is on backwards.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
My brain's on backwards. I haven't felt right. I'm also
I would say crossroads, but it's more like where are
the roads? Like it's right, it's like a sprawling tundra
of I've had about seven cups of coffee and an
entire celsius, two pieces of Prince Street pizza, an orange,
(06:17):
and an actin shake. This is me, welcome.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are you just eating anything that's in front of you?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Shimmering with caffeine and anxiety?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A shake is like did you have to go back
in time to have that?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No, let me tell you what this personal phone number?
I somehow decided, And none of my decisions are great.
We know that, sure to just get an auto delivery,
which can easily be stopped, but somehow I fuddled by
it until it gets there from a large corporation that
mails us things which I'm not I refuse to say
the name of. And this like I went through a
(06:54):
period a few years ago. It was probably during the
Cocoa pe cocoa pandy that I started to just have
drink a sensible shake for lunch like back in the nineties,
right right, So it's one hundred and forty calories and
you get all your nutrients. So I just started getting those,
and I now just if I I'm someone who forgets
(07:14):
to eat, which a lot of people hate me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, fuck you for real, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I fucked me. No, no, I say I fuck me. Oh,
but uh, it's I just do because it's my anxiety.
And so I didn't eat a lot last week except
for chicken. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
At least you're having a meal replacement beverage exactly. Yes.
I forget to eat when I have a day of
ADHD or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I'm self diagnosed. I have many things I'm not sure of,
but I'll forget to eat all day. Yes, and an
Atkins anything a slim fast, even if you want to
go early eighties.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Do we still have slim Fast in the world?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I bet we do, okay, unless they unless there was
like some sort of a lawsuit and change the name.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
But it could be it could be like I get
a tall can of fen fan Is that bad?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The thing is, uh, darkness follows R E. M. That
I used to have quite a drug habit back in
the day. So right, yes, we were. We had some
parallel secrets together. Here what what you do?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
What you do?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
No? I did the what do we call it? What
we call it crystal because it sounds light and fun,
crystal mess. Oh wow, okay, what a big one. But
I've spoken about this before. Yeah, yeah, it was, but
it didn't feel big. It felt like speaking of ADHD,
which I now have termed by my have been diagnosed
by my therapist as subclinical ADHD, which means I don't
(08:46):
need medication, But I says, who says.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
I, Well soon RFK Junior will say everybody nobody gets anything.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Chug and raw milk. Yeah, but I I it's one
of those things that with drugs can do like it
works for a while really well. And it was like
my adderall and I've done that too, and it's nearly
the same thing. But the adderall in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
A sexy it's literally the same thing, right, So people,
I think the adderall people get very upset when you
talk about it, But.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Don't you think it pushes the same little buttons in
your brain to a degree. That's my experience.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's literally the same drug.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Okay, Okay, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As well as the buttons my brain was getting pushed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Were the fen?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yes? What were the fens in the fen?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, I don't remember the actual thing. It was like
fental conan or something like. That was the first one
that was the upper, and then there was another one
fen furnamine or something.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
These are guesses, and that was a downer.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I started taking it early enough before they were
giving you the downer, so it was only the upper.
So I was always mad and I was always drunk,
and I always had a bunch of shit to say
to everybody. And then after I stopped taking it, that
never really went away.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Kind of how it.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Is opened the flood gates.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, it just like I guess, it just supported who
I really wanted to be, got it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, it's like being famous. It just brings out what
you already are.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And it's kind of like I mean, I like to
laugh and have a good time, but also I love
telling people to shut the fuck up because they need.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
To be told that.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I will say this because I've known Karen Denise Victoria
Catherine Kilgarat for four thousand years. Even though she is
thirty four and I'm eighty seven.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I finally known the middle man.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm just that's one of my That'll pancake secrets is
you were We were always great together, but you were
on stage you could be like, well, you're genius obviously,
and you that's where I saw that used for hilarious,
delight and good.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I never abusive comedy, just.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Like telling shit like it is and calling a motherfucker out.
But I don't remember rasing that when I knew you. Socially,
we though Iya too was on Messa.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What I know we were probably meeting and having that
kind of effervescence of like, oh yeah, horay Son's up
here with me.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's how I felt when I talked to you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's absolutely what it was. Karen Y. It's true. Well,
I'm glad we're still.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Peals me too. We're still up here, Sam.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We are, we are. I am now. I can drink
one Celsia's Energy drink, not a sponsor, and I only
do it when I really need to. But I'm serious, y'all.
I am not supposed to take anything, you know, drug
deular like like hard drugs anymore, right, right, But I'm
having a true crisis of sleep, and I have tried
(11:41):
everything and my nervous system overrides allway.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Are you having coffee and then celsius every day?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
No, sirry rarely. This is a day where I want
to be special for you.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, I did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
This is your fault.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Every podcast day, I've got coffee throughout the day. That's
a little sacred that I've kept from Karen Stewart Aster
Elizabeth Garrett.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The current has been ripped off. It's not just pulled back.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Anymore, ripped out and burned. I rarely do celsius. My my.
This is a place for secrets, right.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, oh yeah, this is a special episode of secret.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I if I'm really having a time where I really
need to go to sleep, I will take Nikwel pills
and they really work, but I have to limit that
to like once a month, and usually for a work day.
It's not ideal. I'm groggy in the morning, but it's
matter four hours of sleep. Yes, I'll take it. Normally,
I do a little bit of like a slow release melatonin.
(12:42):
I do a little CBD drops and now again I'll
do a benadrill. But bend makes me like depressed. And
I told my therapist that he was like that's not
a side effective like I welcome you inside my brain? Doctor,
can you tell me you know? Yeah, here's a jot.
I wake up with a neil and sign and says
you're the biggest failure ever known to man, blinking over
(13:03):
my bed. Yeah, I stop out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah you do? You always do?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I do.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I don't have you ever tried an EPSOM salt bath
and or magnesium?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
See this is I've had this conversation a few times.
The last time I take magnesium it didn't really work,
and one time I did it, it just gave me
the you know, the trots. Oh yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Can be great if you're feeling you know, bloated.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I true, And when am I not? The honest? Please?
I don't this is embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't have a bathtub right now.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, so I've done it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I've done those before, the absence salt baths and in
the big house where my friend lives and he's gone
a lot. He he has a bathtub, so I might try
that again. Yeah. Yeah, well I can I have the
either run of the place. Have you met me? I'm
a bossy old you're.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A personality higher for sure. They want you in there.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Also, I take care of shit. I was like to
this Carter, get a new one. He did it. The
new one's great. Welcome to me. I used to live
in a fucking estata.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What to do?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You're famous? Thank you waving a truck.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
That person sped up. They wanted a piece of your
back bumper.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah that was weird. It's like they stopped to let
me go and then they're like, no, fuck you.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Well much less popular than the bath as the EPSOM
salt shower, which I've done. I didn't have a plug
for my tongue. I just I put the salts in
it made of paste, and I literally rubbed it into
my joints.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Christ, this is true. Were one of your fantasies.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
This is a real I do a lot of experimenting
in the shower. I used to wear clothes. That's enough
of that.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, lash tell me more, fellow.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Just you know, if I if I need to pre
wash some clothing, like I don't want to stain the
set and I pull on my back skateboarding, I'll wear
that shirt in the shower. To Karen's dismay, give it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
A pre frankly to Sam's.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Too, yeah, let's all be honest.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I don't then can say I don't then dry it
out and put it in my drawer. It's just a
pre wash.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, and why take it off?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I'm sweaty, there's dirt on my back. Take a shower
with their shirt off, take it off during the shower,
set wet shirt aside. I don't then keep the shirt on,
dry my hair, go on with my day. It's a
quick pre wash, Okay. I will say, rubbing eb some
salt into your joints does help.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That's a that's a good thing to know.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
You're mainlining it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And yeah, because you're kind of when you take it
through your skin. Also you can get more of it.
And then some salts is like all magnesium, right.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I think, I guess, so I'm gonna try that. I'm
taking all offers. I almost called a message to my
doctor today, say, may I please just have some sort
of a sleeping pill which is dangerous air storry for
you know, snorts McGee back here. But yeah, you know,
you know, calm down pill, pancake. But like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Here's the funny thing too.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was thinking about this the other day, how come
I feel like is this child walking along?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Let's ask that that was like a kid alone?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Are you alone?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
When I go to like a brunch, if I make
the terrible mistake of like I'm going to order waffles,
you know what I mean, like I'm going to bust
out and have a dessert breakfast, I am ready to
fall asleep within thirty minutes, really shorter. And I wonder,
although you have silly ex but it's like sometimes there's
not like when you eat a lot of carbs, like
a big bull of spaghetti help you go to sleep?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, Well, I've also the habit which is not ideal,
and a lot of it now is like as we know,
the strikes, slow work time, Yes, rough times, rough times,
rough times, and I and I you know, we're all
going through it. So that's a part of it. That's why,
you know, not always does does my nervous system shark
its way through anything I put inside my body? But
(17:08):
I have always been a big, big old cereal before bed,
but like not like a frosted flake, not like a
you know, really crazy cocoa.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Pa a sheet.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well it's yeah, it's in that neighborhood. Well, it's it's
I do a lot of I can do because of celiacs.
I do a rice crispy Oh yeah, yeah you can.
But see, almost all of those have malta. This is
so boring, but welcome to my supplement podcast about ingredients
(17:42):
have multodextrin, which is a form anything malt is wheat
almost always, yeah, like malted milk or whatever, because it's
for extra flavor. Now, my celiac isn't to the degree that,
like I, I didn't have any symptoms, but they found
it by surprise when they were checking my you know,
my colonoscopy. Yeah, they did an Endosky beat check massive reflux,
(18:03):
and they were like, hey, guess what. Guess what surprise surprise.
Everything you enjoy drugs, alcohol, smoking, that's gone. And guess
what else is going to? Biscuits, fried chicken and happiness.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Good luck. Yeah, you can have those little weird seaweed.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Past things exactly. You can have a big glove of
epps and salts in the shower.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I must also add that the coarse, giant grains of
salt it's painful to rub in your skin because I
was out of breath, and I think also sort of burping,
and so I'm yelling like big speech bubbles.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
But Chris also, that's a great exfoliator. I would imagine
rights baby soft.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
My knees and macs of legs have never been more supple, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I don't have and I'm lucky that i'm, you know again,
nearly eighty seven and a half years old. But like,
I don't have any joint stuff, and I do go
to the gym. That's the thing I did today. What
helps my sleep is like if I pump, I can't
believe I'm saying this, and you I am pump iron right,
really yeah, truly, like like the machines, much can you lift?
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I don't look at the things. I move the novel
to the pineh and I don't the gym where I
live now, the gym where I'm going down in this
neighborhood which I love, which is new and big and
everyone's hot, and I know I never run into anyone
I know.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Do they have classes?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They don't have class.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I joined a gym by my house that could otherwise
be a car payment, but I'm just trying it out
because they have massage people and classes. And I realized
in a class setting. I'm competitive enough to where I
actually get a workout where if I leave it up
to me, and I'm doing things that I never think
(19:58):
to do, like I don't touch it bell. I'm not
gonna every class there involves my lower body in spotting
in some way, and I have to be careful what
I sign up for because I'm like, sure, I'll do
whatever lift is. Everyone in there was Olympic style speed
skater legs and it was like, uh, snatch and lift
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type class like that takes skill. The word Olympics is
in it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah? I realized I'm working out for the first time
in my life and I leave those classes unable to
walk for three days?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Why do you not work your upper body? Is it
perfect already?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
I They have a Sunday that they call like, here's
our Vanity Arm Day, and I'm like, that's all I
ever really did. I realized I was not doing things
that actually make me my body perform better.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Do you also do it as I do to help
knock yourself out to sleep or do you not need that?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Yes? It does as a byproduct, And thank you for
I mean back on topic, because that's why I am
so tired that I had to stop. I don't. I
no longer abuse therapy flu.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Which so that's my secret.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean yeah, it was me with the niquil.
But you I've learned the hard way even before I
got Sebber, like, if you do it more than you
know two or three two times in a row doesn't
work anymore.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Oh yeah, I really it's only for like I have
to get sleep tonight.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I also had a an fantastic massage on Monday
at my tie place, and she was it was one
of the best, to thank God, because I needed it
more than ever. She walked all over me and I
was I was giggling and like making noises. She was
giggling and she was so adorable. And when Baltis start laughing,
She's like, are you a cane? It's fine, I just
make noises right because I do. And she small but mighty,
(21:50):
and it was so I slept Monday night. I'll give
myself that much.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That's nice. Well, I wonder if there's like stretches you
can do. They're kind of on parr careing and.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I always I'm just like, I just don't do them.
There are ways that I don't have to get pills
for a part of me. It's just like pills are
the answer.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Because I love pills.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I love pills.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
The stretches, Yeah, I mean I think once our natural
layers it will be better. But or I get a
ding dang job again. It's not like some funny can't
be cuckuckoo Like I was Betty Davis and hushush with
Cheryl It the other night at Backbar's.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Oh? Nothing? It was a dream And I'm going to force
you to look at a picture of me please.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I really at some point I want to say the
picture too. But I want to talk about what episodes
of Golden Girls because I that you are your favorites
that I don't talk about because sure, since you were
last non, I like feel like I discovered that show
suddenly and how ahead of its time it was. And uh,
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there's a lot of favorite episode.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
There's your friends who make it profession exactly, Wow, how
do you do it? It's that's my friend, my friend Johnny,
who was also in it. Didn't he's a pro. He's
a pro and he can do anything, and he's one
of those paint this man face. Once I shaved into
into a Betty Davis you know face, and I do
have big round eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, you have that year good cast there. That was
a good choice.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It was fun. We it's this little group we do
called Queer Radio Hour that my friend Nathan Frizelle does
and we've done so far Mommy Dearest with me as
Joan whatever. I had a baby Jane with me as
Joan and Bruce Valanche is Betty Davis, which was ladies
and gentlemen, the real standing, the real Oh yeah. It
was a benefit we did for the Dane Lesbie Center
(23:44):
and so yeah, that's what I did. So that makes
me happy. And again we'll make a little bit of money.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
That's exactly in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Terms of Golden Girls. I you know, I keep hoping
I'll ever have to do it again, not that I.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Don't love it, but why yeah, is it just yeah,
I'm so precious.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Doing it like ten years now and I'm kind of like, okay,
and it's I'm so happy. It's such a gift. I
love working with Drew Drogie as you'll know. And yes
sometimes Rose is Killy Manto and then Sherry Vine and
Jackie Beat.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Jackie Beat.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
My face just hasn't been the same since Casita shut down,
because you know, you know the theater which they're they're
bringing back, are they really Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I know what you mean or I understand, you know,
doing it for that long, but I swear to god,
I went one time by myself.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think it was just after COVID would that be right?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, and I was. I bought my ticket last second.
It was like, oh I have I'm not working whatever,
and the beautiful manager, lovely man, mister Dan Ester Dan
unfolded a folding chair and put me in the aisle
like someone's lost aunt. It was fucking It was humiliating
and hilarious at the same time. But then the like
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lights went down, those commercials started running. It was the
most delightful thing. And then everyone's sang the theme song
and it was like truly, truly like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Self for the soul.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh, that's right, it's Karen. That was that July twenty
twenty one, the first one we did back, and Roz
was in that one too, ros Ernandez, that's right, playing
Big Daddy's new young wife. And it had the and
we did three weekends. We had a space amountain more
because of COVID, but it was we cried a lot
during that because it was the big Oh my god,
we're back, we're doing life theater all together, we're singing.
(25:28):
It was pretty magical.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yes, there was big feelings.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You did commercial breaks too, excuse.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Me, Oh yeah, we do the period commercials, just the
commercial breaks of the show.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
They run them.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, we run them all.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh okay, I was hoping you got to act out
those too.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I did a show once where we did do those.
I remember playing mister Whipple and some cooky show with
the Grownlings and other seventies stuff, and my husband some
hot shot. Here's his ancient tiny secret cow gone, which
is not ideal.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I mean nothing was nothing was ancient Chinese secret. But
at least Asian people were in that commerce.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's true. That's true. The woman and her husband were
both Asian. Yes, the good.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
News, but they were I'm sure if they had their way,
they'd be like, can someone rewrite this? So it's just
regular people talking about a detergent exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah, that's got to be something a lot of people share.
How many commercial jingles and commercials I have memorized from
my childhood where I will never get them out of
my head. You know.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well that's in the Golden the Golden Girls show. We
do these commercials like you know, where's the beef for whatever?
Eighties stuff? Sure, other jingles that are not coming to
my brain right now, but that's another part of the
like the charm of the show.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yes, people really get to go back, they do.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah. Yeah, and even like my nieces and nephews are
teenagers come and they everything just so exotic and wild
and weird to them. So because the kids can come,
because even though we do some filthy sides.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, just the scripts, yes, it was on TV.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, the show. Yeah, so many tongue in cheek, sexual
innuendo jokes. There are so many good jokes. It's one
of the best written shows. But then the sweet like
did you ever do the episode live where they go
to the homeless shelter because of this jacket ticket?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yet I haven't done that one. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
It's really a sweet one. And I got terry eyed
just because it was you know, ving, it was Yeah,
and it was also predicting what a problem.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh yeah, that's right. Well they covered Rose one episode
thought she had HIV, right, and then she was addicted.
She got suddenly addicted to you know, speak of the
double like speed pills or something right speed. Yeah, I
think so she was on something. She was addicted. Funny,
I might be conflating that with Elizabeth Berkeley, Jesse just
(28:00):
Pano and say by the bell. Right.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
It's hard a lot of the Yeah, they have parallel.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Themes and they all look alike.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, everything, and there's always some hustle where every other
episode of Golden Girls, they're trying to raise money because
they're all broke and there's an auction, or they're trying
to figure out how to sell a painting they've acquired.
That's my favorite. I don't remember them all being hustlers
and willing to break the law together.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
To pay for the leaky roof, yeah, or the toilets
that's broken.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah, it's the best. There's just what we're.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Don't They live in a condo or like a it's
a house. Oh, it's there.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
The actual house is in Westwood. I mean you can
go see it of the exterior. Nice and then they
live together in a house. But we're doing it again.
I'm not sure when this comes out but the third weekend,
I think in February at Largo or Beloved Largo or
Planning in the Gang, which we've been doing it lately. Great,
and Bob the Drag Queen is the special guest star.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Perfect. Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's an incredible plug.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's I'm not sure what episodes
were doing it because Jackie. I let Jackie and Sherry
make those calls because so often sometimes I can't do
it because of television work. But I don't think that'll
be too much of a danger next year. But we'll see,
we'll see.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I met Bob the Drag Queen zach Ny Towers, Yes, yeah, yeah,
the West Side, and we had the best time.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He's so funny.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yes, he had a stand up and Ro's opened for
him and Zach I think did they take turned sera goldten?
They take to him?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And Zach opens for it.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
He's a well known.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I think Zach opened.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
He's been touring with him and he was telling me
about it where he's like, no, no, it's a solid
stand up hour.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's no light. He's doing stand up.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's not like he was just saying how much he
loved it and it was so good and solid and
he really respected.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It and Roz had a great, great time with him too,
and yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yeah, And that I just briefly talked to him, and
it was about how the stand up is totally separate
from the drag performance.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
But one of my favorite like things I've ever seen
on the internet was the first time I saw a
Bob the drag Queen, and it was that live show
video where he came out on stage and he was
wearing the most gigantic wig and then the wig the
wig snatch reveal is that there is a six year
old girl sitting on his head.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Were like a five year old maybe, but.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like a little It's the one of the most incredible
fucking things I've ever seen, and it's so the audience
goes fucking insane that it is so funny.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
It's way better than my wig bit Baby. It was
an early Wigbit'll.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Just describe it because that'll be funny. It was I
just acquired tail don't show.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
I acquired six identical wigs and I just had them
on top of each other and I did my normal
stand up, but I'd stop and go. I'm sorry. I
can't lie to you people anymore. I'm not who you
think I am. And I'd take it off and there'd
be another I did it over and over though.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
How many wage sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Well, at the end my hair looked like I had big,
curly hair, and at the end it was my real hair.
And so I'm pulling on my real hair, okay, which
I know it's I'm describing it. It's much more impressive
to say a six year old girl sitting on my head.
That's why it's better.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, you didn't look. You didn't win that one. Bob
the drag Queen won that one hands down.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Well you weren't there the night that it got me
second funniest person in Austin. Soo back now I'm roasting.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Karen hold On.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I was there that night.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Oh no, you were one of the judges.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But said not first, I said, definitely.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Not literally A rough ride around here.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
It's tough. It is tough around here.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch what you say.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I I'm I. We should have taken me to some
Epps some salts, so canna make a paste epsom salts.
You don't need a bathtub. You don't, Chris Fairbanks, I
never know what's gonna come out of your sweet little
mouthful and into my earbuds.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
And it's just a mouthful of salt.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's just salt, rock salt.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I keep thinking, I keep thinking, I'm saying the printer company,
which is ep Sun right, And we decided last time
that I need to do a joke where I'm throwing
a plugged in EPSOM printer into the bathtub with me.
Just end it all.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
The last printer I bought is still it never got open.
It's I think it's still sitting in the garage. Yeah,
I just do What do you do with them? Like
I don't know. I have this like fear slash reluctance
of returning and laziness is around it there too. Why don't?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Why do you want to return it? And you just
don't it's no good for you.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Well, Arthur already had one, and I just didn't want
to buy the ink, and I, oh, when I immediately
broke it, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Well they're so.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Rickety and fragile and ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And then yeah, I was in Palm Springs for two
and a half weeks. Long story In October kind of
house sitting and you're going.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
To tell that story in October to us.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I was going to Okay, yeah, I was riveting
no matter what month of the year. But I went
I had to go to Staples to get something printed
because it's Pump Springs and it was like twenty five
cents a page and their printer was broken. Yeah, And
you know what I did was for an audition, and
I just called an agent said I'm not going in
on it now that things aren't so bad that I
can't pass on something I'm never going to get and like,
(33:40):
try to do an audition in Pump Springs on the
self tape.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's got to be a good feeling.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I mean when someone wants me, if someone wants me
to print something, I'm like, what year do you think?
Do you want me to fact something too? Like I
who has a printer anymore? Let me sign it and
emailed it digitally.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I have to say I like a hard copy, and
I feel guilty about it because, oh I got a
long at work.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Because it just is easier for me to I think
it's probably ADHD related. Let's go all the way away.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like you're wanting to do donuts a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's kind of fun in the.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Middle of la round about something else that can't have
any Sorry I brought.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
It up here. Just say churos, sugar and wheat.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
But I like a hard copy to be able to read,
and like copy edit.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Or something I do too. I like especially script. You
can't just do it off your tape.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I think I think it's the reason I happened.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I don't audition much anymore for commercials, and I think
I'm like, I don't, I don't. I'm not going to
get a why are they working on three D printers
when they can't figure out it?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Thank you, doctor Fairbanks.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
That's the right question in someone answer just replacing the
cartridges or filling them up. If you figured out that, here's.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
A part of my crazy, which is vast in the
situation I live in like it's Arthur's printer, and he
like I. We both kind of we're both of around
the same agent, so we help each other out with
it stuff. Sure which sidebar. I hooked up with the
guy here and the neighbord the other night on a
specialty adult app nice and it was fun. But the
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most important thing is he found a much of writing.
I did that. I lost him on word Microsoft Word
and I said, can I can I do anything else
for you?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Sir? That's so funny?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Wait, so this was an app where people come and
help you with your computer.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
He was a farmer.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It was it was sex, but it was just like
that was the byproduct. It was the real thing. Was
like he was in twenty six. Anyway, my pot was
that and you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Did all I have you Well, that's so great.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know, people want to be your boyfriend. And I'm like, absolute,
I love it. And he was asking about my life
and I was like, I don't know how it came up.
I didn't force it. I didn't be like, oh, could
you come over here so we can you know, hasty
violations and then open up my laptop.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
That's the best premise is if you disguise it as
role playing, but it's like all these things you need done,
sexy secretary, you know what. I what really turns me
on if you could take shorthands someone that.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Knows, yes, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I think tears really smarts to.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Cornell Forgot's sake. But I when it's Arthur's printer, his
printer and like I do the ink when someone else's
thing and I can feel And this is I think
from being for me family of a lot lot of kids.
If I can feel superior, once I get to know something,
I'll take care of it. I'm like, I'll get the paper,
I'll put the ink in out Right, if it was
just me in my house, i'd be like baby print
(36:58):
print that. If it's our through, I'm like, oh, get
out of the way. Yeah, not literally, just in my mind.
This is not like in the way.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Yeah, move Arthur enough with your punk rock flyers smooth.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You have to come over sometime and like there's that.
He's decorated like a seventies punk rock rock and roll basement.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Like a CBGB's more colorful.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
They're not dirty and smelly and piss on the walls.
But like yeah, yeahs like like like posters, like every
single record album, all kinds of funny things. I love
the drum set, all the guitars of old jukebox. It's
pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
That is cool. That's a great theme that I thought about.
I did wallpaper in my apartment. I went overboard, but
what pattern well I was thinking of because the Halloway
bar near my house that they used old rock flyers
as a wallpaper and it looks amazing because they did
a good job. And I'm like, oh, this looks like
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a CD bathroom, but it's a clean, finished wallpaper job
of rock flyers, Like it doesn't have to be pie
smell themed to be you know what I mean, Like
it's neat. But I ended up with just doing a
snowy mountain scene like a wall photo mural.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
More importantly, our new neighbors moved in there and they're
a hot gay couple. Can you imagine how lucky we
feel in here, right in there, right next door, because
this neighborhood's all these craftsmens that are all individual. It's
a long story, but they redid the front better and
they're like lovely, kind of conjured up better neighbors.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh that's very exciting. This house is gorgeous too.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I love it, right.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yeah, that's really That's why it's just saying about this neighborhood.
You go twenty feet and all of a sudden there's
like a different theme.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Isn't it wild?
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean LA used to really be
something it did.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
These are all built in the teens. I guess it's
also to give too much away of my.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Location the old yeah, please don't well all, yeah, I
ain't scared of nobody my area. Yeah, it's Angelino Heights.
And it's so funny because on where I live, it's
like basically where they shot training Day. But then you
go around the corner and there's these beautiful refurbished Victorian
(39:15):
homes where it's like, this looks like the college.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Well, no, it's charmed. It's thriller. It's Coljak.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Oh yeah, right right, it's charmed.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Col Chack.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Every house from the UPN network is in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I've been comforting myself watching a Colchak the night soccer
episodes on Peacock to go back to my childhood fund
talk about.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It was that guy on fen Fund because he was
like Cole Jack is in such a bad mood all
the time.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It is nothing but white straight man, possibly straight because
the sexual tension between him and Simon Oakland, who places editor,
is so strong and they are screaming, spittling in each
other's face the entire time about a werewolf for a
witch who's a fashion designer.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But it's like, yeah, there's no.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's it's the opposite of like entertainment. It's like, do
you want to watch two old men fight?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
And they're probably in their forties, they look like they're
in their seventies today, and there they are screaming at
the back row of the theater when the cameras three
inches away.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you can smell the brown liquor.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's just that's the kind of fine old pestiche lowing.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
And it's why I think I was raised on that stuff.
Where one time I was doing an episodic or a
procedural and they, I want to say it was the
police offers questioning me because of the crime I might
have done. Said we got He's like, he's like, what
do you What? Am I in the back row? I'm
sitting right here? Why are you yelling at me? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Was he the series regular Son.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Of a B And I asked, wanted, No, just gonna
look at my MDV.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Oh okay a couple.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Does this mean.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No that we're wrapping it down?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I mean I'm just tightening it up. I don't know
what that means. I were coming. It made less sense
to keep driving around. We've seen a lot of unilluminated pedestrians.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Also, those two guys that had their heads pulled up
and tied real tight, I'm like, well, those are they're
doing crimes.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
They're just cold. Just they're cold. They're regular people with
cold chins.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
They're just cold. They didn't expect it to turn this cold.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
I'm probably hooking up with one of them. They're just
trying to be honest.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Next time you come over, can you pretend you're doing
a crime again? That other one look like Outside my
Dreams again, Chris, did you was it a pocket? What
were you doing where you talked about old horror movies?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Oh, I'm still doing that. Yeah, Yeah, I'm actually going
at seven thirty to do a bonus.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It's called Sam Pancake Presents the Monday Afternoon Movie. Oh yes,
and Karen Bernadotte, Cristo Priscilla kill Gariff has done it
and she was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Delight.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
We did this house Possessed starting for Ger Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yes, and we I think we talked for two and
a half hours. We just like, good luck editing that bullshit.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
It was a two parter.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
It was a two part All the movies you talk.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
About initially started out just being seventies TV horror movie
right right, and then it kept going so I expanded
to like eighty Steve horror movies, and then I did
like a season that ended up being a couple of
years of all the teen movies like Sarah t Portrait
of a Teenage Alcoholic, don Portrait of a teenage run away,
Go ask Alice, you know right.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
There was one.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It was someone Scott Bao was an alcoholic. Oh my god,
and you're getting hit in the head.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yes, with the boat or the Boy who drank too much?
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Yes, no way, but I called that. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
They played hockey and let me tell y'all something I was.
I watched it The Boy who Drank too Much? Yes,
and Lance Kirwin R and P. They watch it again
if you want your heart to be ripped out in
the best way, because I kind of yeah. No, I'm
a funny fella, they say, and I goof fun stuff. Sure,
(42:58):
I seen it. You know, I'm one of the few.
But this I was gonna watch with another friend of
mine who like also has the experience of twelve step programs.
I could just kind of be like, oh, well, look
what it was like back then. It was so heartbreaking
and beautiful. Oh and entirely shot on location for some
reason in Madison, Wisconsin, so it wasn't like Burbank passing
for you know, Minneapolis or something.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So it has this authenticity. It's so well acted. And
I try not to be one of those gay people
who like sees queer coating now and everything, but I'm
telling you, these two boys had this very special friendship.
And Lance Kerwin is so concerned about little Scott Bayoes
and his abusive father and all the drinking, and it
is heartbreaking. Yeah, And I was like, I can't make
fun of that. There's been very few that I was like, oh,
(43:40):
this is too tender and too good.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
And Scott beer was so good, Scott bal was so good.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Was that the one where Scott Bayo was wearing glasses
He has like almost like John Denver wireroom glasses on me.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Maybe I know that there's a lot of hockey. They're
both skated out and there's a lot of hockey.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Scott bo It makes me sad because he truly was
my first love. Like I just remember looking We're in
Food City and I looked over at the magazine rack
and he was on the front of TENV magazine and
I felt my heart like I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Arms crossed right probably yeah, yeahs or like.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
He had a cut up gray sweatshirt that was midriffs
that I was just.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Like, I just loved him.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
But and now just knowing like it's just you hate
that because it's like, no, that wasn't what we were doing,
Like what are you doing now?
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Oh? Politically yes, fateful.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Spiteful will be the Secretary of State next week? Good luck?
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Well this this maybe I hurt his feelings this whole time.
I can't imagine what he looks like. It's just a
young Tony Danza.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Well you're you're kind of right.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Yeah, it's kind of pixelated mixed with Robbie Bentson.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
He's in the Dylan silo for Before You.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Go, I'm Not going anywhere?
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Where are you staying any longer? I mean, what was
the because there's the Boy who Drank too Much? Which
what was the show where it was the main character
is a kid running home to about the bad yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And it was Michael Landon's story, yes yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
And he directed it. And it is again Lance Kerwin
who was marvelous. I don't know what happened. He only
died a couple of years ago. He went to WHI
and like there's some kind of religious cult question mark.
I don't know, but anyway, he's so good in all
these He.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Was a great child child act.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
He really was.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
He really was only in the Boy Who Do themed movie.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
The Loneliest Runner, and he hester because his abusive mother
sticks the urine soak sheets out the window to shame him.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
That. I mean, I've never wet the bed. And I'm
not bragging, but I that's really money. Yeah, I'm trying
to train myself. You need a drink more because I
sure did.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, I'm absolutely wet the bed proudly.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I just that seemed so cruel. I'm just I think
it just made me feel lucky to have parents that
didn't abuse me. That seems so awful to me.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
It's a rough ride, like go ahead and hit me,
but don't hang pee, like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
And then that's ramped up in the in the picture
because the adorable girl Melissasu Anderson for the Little House
and the Peririe moves in next door. So he really
he has to walk her home and she likes him,
and he likes her, but like he has to somehow
make his uses to run to get home before she
sees it. It's it's seventies were rough.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
It's bizarre that I'm even brought up because I don't
think I'm remembering it as a child. And when you
said the boy who drank too much, I'm like it
all came back to me.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And it's not called the boy who peed too much.
Speaker 7 (46:55):
Yeah, the boy who ran too much, because you know
he was such a runner.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
He became a track star, right, Michael Landon became like
a college athlete track star.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Okay, for one second, we just talked about Michael Landon
was so good looking.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Oh my god, it's it's Unfathomas. He's one of the
people I look back at as a child. I was like,
hold me, touch me, snuggle me, sir, your prairie shirt.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Paw, pa, please, pa, please.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Paw And he and he died so young, I.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Know, sad.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Have you ever heard Frank, You know, Frank Conneff, who
was on.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
He Don't take a watch in Mystery Science can say
three thousand almost every night.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I know, so good he made up a song that
he used to do at the Fake Allery when we
would do comedy shows there, and it was it was
because he had Michael Landon had just died. So People
magazine had a cover of Michael Dannon and the headline
was Michael Landon's Legacy of Love.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
So Frank so I wrote this song, and he goes.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Bring ding ding ding Ding Bringing.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And he's pretending that he's playing like little Finger, like
little Finger.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Symbols or something.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
With his mouth.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yes, and then he goes Michael Landon's Legacy of love.
It's a legacy that comes down from above. It's a
legacy that and then it basically and then it ends
with Michael Landon's Legacy of love. And I think of
it every fucking other day, like it's all I think about.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's well, now it's going to be in mind, and
I thank you for.
Speaker 8 (48:33):
That made it before you stay, I ring made it
even more sad, like when a dog dies and the
other dogs like fuck it and then they die with
the fact that Victor French, her sidekick in All since
Bonanza or whatever, All the Way to Highway to Heavens
(48:55):
sure died like the next week, right.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, really, yeah, right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
You French, not French, no.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
So hot in a different way.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
He's beard French.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Thank you friends for that ride.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I read it.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
I got all the ingredients I need for my Thanksgiving
corn pudding, all two of them, because we call me
a Rosie Bell Fretwell pancake in my family because that
was my grandmother's name, and she would try to hit
all the thanksgivings of all the kids. And I'm hitting too, yeah,
are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Nice?
Speaker 4 (49:25):
My sister is it too? And then a friend group
at seven that's good. Yeah, I'm not you know, I'm
too nervous to eat. I'll forget to eat that day.
I'm sure you all that horrible.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
A jew and a do.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
I love you?
Speaker 4 (49:42):
I love you, Karen, my almost birthday twin, Chris.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
Touch my hand you to thank you for being here. Goodbye,
Sam is the best well you've been listening to? Do
you need ride, dyn a R.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Our senior producer is Annalise Nelson.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Mixed by Edson Choy.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Our talent booker is Patrick Cootner.
Speaker 5 (50:19):
Theme song by Karen Kilgarret.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar
podcast That's d y nar Podcast.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Thank you both.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
You're welcome.
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